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MAD
Sep. 21, 2001, 10:34 AM
We have a team in Spain.

Alice Debany-Clero
Richard Spooner
Clare Bronfman

MAD
Sep. 21, 2001, 10:34 AM
We have a team in Spain.

Alice Debany-Clero
Richard Spooner
Clare Bronfman

MAD
Sep. 21, 2001, 10:41 AM
USA Equestrian // News // 21 September, 2001//

NATIONS CUP FINAL IN MADRID TO INCLUDE U.S. REPRESENTATION




USA Equestrian (formerly AHSA) announced today that the World Final of the Samsung Nations Cup Series (Jumping), to be held this weekend in Madrid (ESP) will include representation of the United States. USA Equestrian is the National Equestrian Federation of the United States. The Nations Cup Final will be on Sunday, September 23, 2001.

Riders for the USA are scheduled to be Clare Bronfman (Charlton), Alice Debany Clero (CEO and Loro Piano Jumbo), and Richard Spooner (Robinson FRH and Incento). Debany Clero has been named Chef d'Equipe.

Sherry Frank, Assistant Executive Director-International Services for the Federation, explained, "The United States Equestrian Team last week announced that the riders and horses previously scheduled to compete would not be going, in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on Tuesday, September 11, 2001. "We were informed of strong interest in the Final by U.S. riders already competing in Europe, as well as our international federation (FEI) and the sponsors and organizers. Everyone wanted to know if a substitute team could be assembled. The FEI, the sponsors, and the organizers were very strong in their view that it was particularly important for the USA to be represented given what had happened, since to do otherwise would appear to be a victory for terrorism."

Frank and Athletes Services representatives, Cindy Stys and Lynn Lopez, immediately started making the necessary contacts, reaching out to all those involved, including USA Equestrian president Alan F. Balch.

"I am heartened and impressed with how thoroughly and quickly everyone responded," said Balch. "Clearly, the U.S. riders in Europe wanted to see our flag flying in the Final, and so did the organizers, sponsors, and the FEI. We were doubtful at first that under the difficult circumstances of travel whether this could be arranged, but everyone has come through. We are particularly grateful for the support of the FEI, and of Samsung, the sponsors, who really made this possible. This is the essence of sporting spirit."

Balch said he was aware of the possibility of controversy about fielding a team in this manner. "Of course, opinions will always differ about the right response in a situation like this. Our job as the National Federation is to maximize opportunities for qualified athletes to represent our country in international competition. When international organizers, our own IF, and the riders themselves take the initiative as they have here, particularly for such an important competition, we owe it to the sport to be responsive and help all we can. My own personal feeling, and their feeling, is that terrorists cannot ever be rewarded for their cowardly acts."

"For me personally it was very important to have the American team here for the global aspect of the World Final of the Samsung Nations Cup Series during this time. We have made a lot of effort for the American team to participate," said Ulf Rosengren, Director of the Samsung Nations Cup Series.

JustJump
Sep. 21, 2001, 10:56 AM
No word on this from USET as of yet, I can't help but notice...

Erin
Sep. 21, 2001, 10:59 AM
Wow... that is truly a heartening thing to read. What a wonderful thing that American riders will be competing there after all. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Improvise!
Sep. 21, 2001, 11:11 AM
I think this is terrific, an important step. Can't wait to see how the audience reacts. Win or lose, just being there representing the U.S. makes us and the team winners. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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"You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm."
--Colette
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Coreene
Sep. 21, 2001, 11:18 AM
Hope she stays for this - I can't wait to hear about it when she gets back. I bet this will be a Four Hanky cry.

MAD
Sep. 21, 2001, 11:25 AM
<<No word on this from USET as of yet, I can't help but notice...>>>

I am not bashing, but I agree...I have known about this for days (Alice is my sister) and I finally found the press release on Towerheads!

By the way, has anyone read Alice's account of showing in Italy last week on Towerheads? You need a box of tissues for that...she was the only American competing and happened to win two classes. She said that there were American flags waving in the stands-not for her but for all of us.

Coreene
Sep. 21, 2001, 12:07 PM
Thank you so much for sharing that. I wish I could have been there to see it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GO USA!!!

MAD
Sep. 21, 2001, 12:17 PM
THIS IS ALICE'S DAY 1 ACCOUNT OF SHOWING IN ITALY.
SHE WROTE THIS TO ME AND KK (Towerheads) AND ASKED THAT I POST IT HERE: (SORRY FOR THE LENGTH, SCROLL DOWN FOR DAY 2)

<<I am showing here in Italy at a CSI-A in Pinerolo. It was a hard decision to come and ride here after all of the tragedies on Tuesday. On Tuesday, the horses were already three quarters of the way to Italy as the events of the day unfolded. At one point, I asked my groom, Manu, to turn around and come home. So he turned around on the highway. I thought about it again for a few minutes and decided that our lives must go on, and if they don't, it is exactly what the terrorists wanted: to paralize us as a nation. So I asked Manu to turn back around and continue to the show. We would hold our heads up and fight.
I decided to wear a black arm band with my red American coat when I am showing. I feel that it is a proper symbol of mourning, and it feels right to me to wear it. Today, all of Europe became silent for three minutes at noon in order to pay their respects to all of the vicims and their families and friends. At noon at the show, they lowered the flag to half mast and everything stopped. I cried my eyes out, which certainly was not the first time since all of this has happened. In fact, anytime I think of all of the people who have perished, tears are very nearby.
It is very touching and comforting to see the entire world's sympathy for what has happened. Thierry Pommel from France came up to me directly at the show to tell me how much people over here also feel the pain. He was not the only rider to do so, as this was an attack not only on America, but it was an attack to anyone in the world that believes in religious, political, and social freedom.
As it happens, I won the 1m40 class with my 8 year old, Filou Landais. In the prize giving ceremony, they raised the flag up to half mast as they played the Star Spangled Banner. Instead of putting my arm downward in a salut as is customary, I put my hand on my heart as I teared up yet again.
In the 1m50 class, I was second with Jumbo. I couldn't quite catch Thierry Pommel in the jump-off. I really want, more than I ever have, to raise that flag again. Which is what I vow to to do as often as I can, as the only American in Pinerolo, to show that they can not ever beat the Americans down
Alice (Debany-Clero)>>>

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ALICE IN ITALY DAY 2:

<<Yet again an exciting day here in Pinerolo, in fact it was nearly a carbon copy of yesterday's performances. Filou Landais won again today in the jump-off class, and Jumbo was second again to Thierry Pommel in the 1m 50 time first round.
Call me emotional, but again I couldn't help but cry my eyes out during our national anthem while I watched the flag raise half way up the pole. I've always gotten a chill when hearing the Star Spangled Banner, but for now, it has a special double-meaning.
I'm very proud to be competing here this week especially. As the sole American representative here, I feel that people all over the world want to feel a connection with America more than they ever have. By raising the flag twice so far, I think I could be helping some people ease their pain. In the crowd, I have seen several people waving small American flags, not necessarily cheering for me, but cheering for my wounded country.
Tomorrow, just before the Grand Prix, I, and any other rider that wishes to, will enter the ring on horse back and collecively pay our respects to the vicims with another three minute silence. Afterwards, I will say a few words to express the sadness that we all feel. I don't yet know exactly what I will say, I think I will let it come straight from my heart.

Alice >>

dublin
Sep. 21, 2001, 12:33 PM
I have enjoyed reading all of your sister's posts from Europe on Towerheads, and am glad she let you reprint her most recent one here.

I am so proud that the US will be represented in Spain, and know that representing our country will be an amazing experience for all the team members!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MAD
Sep. 21, 2001, 12:43 PM
The decision to send this particular team was not embraced by all. When I spoke to Alice I told her that I was very proud of her that she had made the decision to go, even if it may not be the most appropriate show for her horses at this time.

One of her horses does not fly well and had to fly without any tranquilizer (which was quite scary as I understand it) because it was so close to the time she had to compete.

I think that competing in a Nations Cup with physical and mental preparation is difficult at the best of times. This team is showing incredible courage and needs our support.

God Bless America

Checkers324
Sep. 21, 2001, 12:44 PM
Thank you, MAD! I found your sister's account of her days showing in Italy very touching. Tell her I wish her -- and the whole team -- luck in raising the American flag again!

Coreene
Sep. 21, 2001, 12:45 PM
One of the most inspiring things I've read in a long time.

akrogirl
Sep. 21, 2001, 01:18 PM
MAD, please pass on my best wishes to the team also, and continued good luck to your sister. I am so glad that the US will be able to field a team after all.

Weatherford
Sep. 21, 2001, 01:28 PM
Thank you MAD and thank you Alice!

The following is from Horse & Hound: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> USET pulls out of Nations Cup

There was outrage in some quarters at the thought of a second-string American team riding in the Samsung Nations Cup final in Madrid, after the US Equestrian Team cancelled its plans to send a squad following the terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon, writes Nancy Jaffer.

"It's an insult," said George Morris, who would have been the chef d'equip of the USET squad. "You want to send your best team to something like this. IF we can't send the team which deserves to go, it's better not to be represented."

The replacement team was to consist of riders already in Europe, regardless of their standing on the computer rankings.

The USET horses went into quarantine in preparation for the trip to Spain, even after Tuesday, but continued uncertainly about air travel abroad was one of the factors that led the organization to cancel travel plans.

"The safety of our horses and riders is always of utmost concern," said USET vice-chairman Armand Leone, jr. "There is an equally important reason not to send out athletes to participate at this time. Just as Major League Baseball and other sports organizations have cancelled their games and competitions in the wake of this week's terrorist attacks, so too is the USET doing this out of respect for the victims and the loved ones they've left behind." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dementia 13
Sep. 21, 2001, 01:34 PM
Oh I so love it when windbags such as GM have the wind taken out of their sails.

Go Alice, Richard and Clare!
/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

M. O'Connor
Sep. 21, 2001, 02:00 PM
I'm sure they will do us proud!

Jair
Sep. 21, 2001, 02:08 PM
Now I'm confused...

doesn't the headlines Weatherford just posted say " US pulls OUT of Nations Cup" and further down the article says "the teasm WAS to consist of Alice, Richard et al..."

I take that as meaning the 2nd string team wasn't going to compete? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

fernie fox
Sep. 21, 2001, 02:30 PM
How dare George Morris be so mean spirited,especially at this time.
Good luck to the riders from USA.I'm glad they will be able to fly the flag,I know they will get probably the best reception ever.
I'm not going to say anymore,I'm disgusted with 'himself'[GM]and uset,they should encourage these riders who are willing to go.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

MAD
Sep. 21, 2001, 02:52 PM
I believe George missed the point of the Americans competing...

Coreene
Sep. 21, 2001, 03:09 PM
And I think USET's sounds like the pot calling the kettle Black & Decker.

Portia
Sep. 21, 2001, 03:51 PM
Since when the hell are Richard Spooner and Alice Debany Clero "second string" or "an embarassment"? Get a freakin' grip and support your country's efforts.

Jair, the headline of the Horse & Hound article says USET Pulls Out... As we've come to learn, the USET is not now nor has it ever been our National Federation, and the USA, through its NF USA Equestrian, has every right to have individuals and teams in international competition with our without the USET involvement. The USET couldn't get it done, and USA Equestrian did.

Sorry for that outburst. Now back to your regular programming.

[This message was edited by Portia on Sep. 21, 2001 at 07:02 PM.]

Portia
Sep. 21, 2001, 03:53 PM
Please wish your sister and the other riders and horses the very best of luck and tell them how very, very proud we are of them. Whatever their results, they will have made a point and let the world know the USA is still standing. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wtywmn4
Sep. 21, 2001, 05:12 PM
Portia, you go girl!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Absolutely Mad, you tell Alice and all the team members they are terrific, so little time for them to prepare for this. But wow, we will have a very good team representing us there, and thats superb!!

M. O'Connor
Sep. 21, 2001, 07:26 PM
the USET decided not to send those previously selected to compete due to the reasons stated in their press release. That is, of course, their perrogative, and in any event, it seems that logistics of sending a team would have been difficult, if not impossible. However, there are a number of American riders who are presently competing in Europe, among them, Alice Debany Clero, Richard Spooner, and Claire Bronfman...rather than have no American riders at the Nations Cup finals, those riders will now compete. Not sure if they approached the powers that be to ask to compete, or if they were approached and asked to compete--But, if either the USET or USAE would have the poor taste to latch onto any aspect of this situation for the sake of arguing over turf, it would be completely disgraceful in light of the events of the past week. The right thing to do is get behind this team with our full support and best wishes.

MO
Sep. 21, 2001, 09:30 PM
MAD, I got so teary reading Alice's article! How beautiful /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

(P.S. What ever happened to The Natural? If I might ask.)

MAD
Sep. 22, 2001, 05:49 AM
Good question about the Natural...I believe he is turned out at a farm in CT., but I'll check with Alice or our Mom.

Marie

MAD
Sep. 22, 2001, 07:04 AM
Yes, I checked and the Natural is turned out and enjoying life!

hoopoe
Sep. 22, 2001, 01:05 PM
I hope you will post info on results as soon as you get wind.

Pass on our best wishes and thumbs up of support. I am sure the experience will be memorable for all the right reasons.

MAD
Sep. 23, 2001, 06:08 AM
I hope this works:
CSIO Madrid Spain (http://www.dazelo.com/samsungfinal/web/eng/)

And if not:
http://www.dazelo.com/samsungfinal/web/eng/

There is a beautiful picture of Richard in the photo gallery.

[This message was edited by MAD on Sep. 23, 2001 at 09:23 AM.]

MAD
Sep. 23, 2001, 08:01 AM
My brother-in-law, Remi, just called my Mom and she just called me. Alice was clean on CEO in the 1st round (the only results I know so far-first hand).

I don't know who I am happier for: America, Alice or Mom! CEO is a homebred and Mom calls him her 11th child (Alice and I have 8 brothers).

Go USA!

MAD
Sep. 23, 2001, 08:44 AM
Richard: Clean with 2 times faults

Clare: Last Rail and 1 time fault

Standing 4th (remember-they have no drop score)

Not too shabby....

MAD
Sep. 23, 2001, 08:58 AM
More news from Spain

Alice and CEO had 2 rails in the 2nd round.

Weatherford
Sep. 23, 2001, 10:00 AM
GM may think we sent a second rate team, but teh DUTCH Chef chose us to win!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> )From the Samsung NC web site: After the official draw, each country�s Chef D�Equipe gave his opinion on tomorrows results in the Nations Cup. In an emotional moment, United States Chef D�equipe, Alice Debany, thanked the world�s support after the terrorist attack suffered by her country last week.

She thanked the organization that did everything possible for them to come. In this American rider opinion tomorrow�s winner will be France followed by the Netherlands and her country.

From the Dutch side Bert Romp prognosticated the American team as winner while the Belgian, Spanish and German team leaders choose the Belgian team as the best option for triumph. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They rode really really well in that first round - I am looking for final results.

Weatherford
Sep. 23, 2001, 10:28 AM
I am still waiting for them to post second roung results, but check out the course maps on this website!! They are interactive with a "follow the bouncing ball" with distances & fence descriptions. Really neat!

http://www.dazelo.com/samsungfinal/web/eng/resultados/default.asp

Weatherford
Sep. 23, 2001, 11:18 AM
19 faults for 7th. Three of the 19 were time faults. Not bad at all for a three person second string. 16 faults was Germany, France, & Italy - darned good company!

WELL DONE SCRATCH TEAM!

[This message was edited by Weatherford on Sep. 23, 2001 at 04:11 PM.]

wtywmn4
Sep. 23, 2001, 04:40 PM
Well done is right!

Thank you Alice, Clare and Richard for picking up the ball.....Great news MAD and Weatherford...

M. O'Connor
Sep. 23, 2001, 05:58 PM
Thanks, also to our team in Spain!

jsg24
Sep. 24, 2001, 06:50 AM
I was able to watch the second round on t.v. last night. The announcer commented a few times on how wonderful it was to have a U.S. team there. Claire Bronfman had a beautiful clear round in the second round. I think if we had a 4th rider, we would have been right up there in contention!

MAD
Sep. 24, 2001, 07:23 AM
Alice and Remi are going to read the posts tonight when they are back home in Paris.

Alice said Clare rode great!

And she really thought that no one knew they were there...but when you have a sister with a big mouth, this is what you get...

I've asked her to post her thoughts...so let's see if she does and can.

Portia
Sep. 24, 2001, 07:46 AM
Congratulations Alice, Richard, Clare, their grooms, and all the people behind them who made this possible. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think that's a great score given all the difficulties involved.

Some of our Nations Cup teams have done a lot worse than that in the past with teams that had 4 riders and a drop score and had a whole lot more time to prepare. And it's really great that each horse and rider had at least one round with no rails down! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I know it's not an exact correlation by any means, but out of curiosity I took a look at the drop scores for the other countries, all of whom had 4 riders. Here's the totals dropped by each one:

Netherlands dropped 14
Belgium dropped 12
Spain dropped 16
Germany dropped 24
France dropped 16
Italy dropped 13
USA - no drop score.

So I think our team did da*n good!

[This message was edited by Portia on Sep. 24, 2001 at 11:01 AM.]

Dementia 13
Sep. 24, 2001, 09:18 AM
I am hoping they show this on OLN.

Congratulations everyone!

hoopoe
Sep. 24, 2001, 11:04 AM
A good job!! congratulations to all.

I continue to be disheartened in the devisive nature of the USAE and USDF situation.

So many people clamor for MORE EXPERIENCE and exposure for our international riders. We here was opportunity which riders grabbed and I feel they got slapped on the hand for it.

I would still like to know if the USDF contributed monies to the NAYRA Championships.

I was stunned to find out how poorly funded this important event is (was).

Portia
Sep. 24, 2001, 12:06 PM
Hoopoe -- do you mean the conflict between USA Equestrian and USET? Or USET and USDF? Or USA Eq and USDF?

Help! We're drowning in the alphabet soup! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

dublin
Sep. 24, 2001, 12:13 PM
My heartiest congratulations as well! I am so glad these three people represented the United States....they did us proud. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Improvise!
Sep. 24, 2001, 12:28 PM
Great job Alice, Richard and Clare!!! Great teamwork, sportsmanship and riding! Thanks for making us look good. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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"You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm."
--Colette
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hoopoe
Sep. 24, 2001, 12:33 PM
OOOOPPPPPS Yes I meant USET.

AHC
Sep. 24, 2001, 01:40 PM
Coming in on this a little late.....

First of all, nice job and congratulations to those who represented the USA. I completely disagree with George Morris -- this was EXACTLY the time to let those who were already there compete.

MAD, thanks so much for your posts about the event and the ones excerpting Alice's article about showing in Italy. Very moving stuff.

MO
Sep. 24, 2001, 07:27 PM
"OOOh say can you see..."

God Bless America!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MAD
Sep. 25, 2001, 11:35 AM
USA Equestrian, Inc.-Press Release 9/24/01


WARM RECEPTION FOR U.S. RIDERS IN NATIONS CUP FINAL

USA Equestrian (formerly AHSA) announced today that U.S. riders produced a gallant performance at the World Final of the Samsung Nations Cup Series (Jumping) in Madrid, Spain on September 23, 2001, against tough competition and received a warm reception for their participation in challenging circumstances.
The team, with one rider less than the other six teams, did not have the benefit of a discard score. Clare Bronfman (Charlton) scored 5 & 0 faults in rounds one and two respectively; Alice Debany Clero (CEO) - 0 & 8; Richard Spooner (Robinson FRH) - 2 & 4. The USA was not far off the pace when joining Spain on a seven-fault tally as round two began.

"We know we are the underdogs," Alice Debany-Clero had said during the draw the previous day, "but the terrorists tried to paralyze our country last week and by coming here to compete we want to show them that we will not lie down because of what they did." Standing in as Chef d'Equipe, Debany-Clero kicked off the American attack with a foot-perfect round from CEO in the first round. Claire Bronfman looked to be on the way to doing likewise until hitting the last with the big-jumping Charlton who also picked up a single time fault while Richard Spooner steered the gray, Robinson FRH, to a clean jumping round with just two time faults showing on the clock.

American chances faded when Debany-Clero dropped two fences in the second round and although Bronfman, who has clearly built up an excellent partnership with the massive gelding Charlton, got it absolutely right this time to go clear, the U.S. finished with a score of 19 to leave them in seventh position after Richard and Robinson put a foot in the water.

baymare
Sep. 25, 2001, 03:11 PM
I think it was fabulous that the US was able to field a team at all, and I think that our "catch riders" did us more than proud. It must have been an emotional experience.

Thanks for rising above the bickering at our National level and bringing the US some genuine honor! If we had a flag smiley, I'd post it here!

JustJump
Sep. 25, 2001, 03:27 PM
As for rising above the bickering, it seems some have, but some maybe haven't; ie, still no comment from USET? Hmmmmm.

MAD
Sep. 25, 2001, 05:21 PM
link to Alice's response


http://chronofhorse.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=691099205&f=1970907951&m=5253048003

SGray
Sep. 26, 2001, 07:33 AM
since they were not sent by the uset but by our NF - USA Equestrian - then that makes them AMERICA'S TEAM doesn't it?