"TYPO CIRCUIT" reaches a new milestone in typos!!!

[Coreene]

Didya see the new one? Bad enough for Carrie Coker, Tracy Baer's assistant, that she'll now be called "Carne" (yes, as in Carne Asada) for the rest of her life...

BUT THEN, and this is a direct quote:

"Randy currently rides at Meady Grove Farms with Franci Dinewudel..."

DINEWUDEL?

How the hell can you get "Deinwudel" out of "Steinwedell?"

Gotta love it! Laughing out loud!

PS: Hey Bumpkin, can't find your address, email it to me and I'll send you this one...

[Coreene]

Didya see the new one? Bad enough for Carrie Coker, Tracy Baer's assistant, that she'll now be called "Carne" (yes, as in Carne Asada) for the rest of her life...

BUT THEN, and this is a direct quote:

"Randy currently rides at Meady Grove Farms with Franci Dinewudel..."

DINEWUDEL?

How the hell can you get "Deinwudel" out of "Steinwedell?"

Gotta love it! Laughing out loud!

PS: Hey Bumpkin, can't find your address, email it to me and I'll send you this one...

[Gnarly]

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[wtywmn4]

OMG coreene, this is tooooooooooo funny!!! I hadn't given it a good look, then read what you posted. They have reached an all time low...Hmmmm wonder how everyone likes paying for all the typo's? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Coreene]

The scary part is that "Dinewudel" was in a STORY! HelLO, does no one there proof? Do these clients not demand ad proofs? And it's really unfortunate, because they are using a really nice high end paper, and their graphics aren't that bad.

[dublin]

considering I got a total of 2 magazines in a year for my $35..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif (not counting the issue coreene so kindly sent me) /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Wonder if the multiple gripes I posted about it here had anything to do with the wonderful customer service I received for my money? Actually, probably not, considering other people's experiences with the magazine.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I may have to check the issues I have for any spectacular typos. Nothing will probably top that butchering of poor Francie's name though. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[This message was edited by dublin on May. 21, 2001 at 06:14 PM.]

[This message was edited by dublin on May. 21, 2001 at 06:15 PM.]

[Bumpkin]

Coreene, why don't you contact Judith Spreckles!! haha
I have suggested it to Merry, but, you could if you want.
Maybe we can get her to take it back!! And make it the same magazine it once was /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
I know, I am dreaming..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[SuaveReno]

Why is it that the magazine shows up in the tack stores before it reaches its subscribers /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I vote to bring back Judy Spreckles, "In One Ear" and "Whinnies form the Nursery" (sic) /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[dublin]

assuming it actually REACHES it's subscribers (see above LOL)!!!

I bought several 1980's HORSES on ebay, and thought they were a big step down from the issues in the 60's and 70's, when Judith Spreckles was publishing it.

I still wish someone would do a 'where are they now' update type of interview with her. The stories she could tell (and did!) way back when.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

OK I've seen this magazine and it's typos... WHO is the editor of this publication? This is just AWFUL!! It's a pretty magazine.. pretty pictures, nice way of publication.. but the editing skills are quite frightening /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <--a really big eeeek

[TuxWink]

I have to admit that I finally picked up a copy that had been gathering dust in my (eventing) tack room from Summer 2000 after reading all about it on this board. The pictures were beautiful, and I loved the tribute pages. I can't believe the number of ponies that some of these kids show! Yikes! And the tag line on some of the "for sale" ads that says, "for SERIOUS inquiries only!" /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Umm, okay. Hey, I know that when a price isn't listed it means "IF YOU HAVE TO ASK, YOU CAN'T AFFORD ME!" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It was quite enjoyable to flip through!

[Merry]

What can I say, coreene, but that those are amazing typos! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

And yet, people still feel compelled to pay $$$ to run their ads and contribute press releases. You wonder if the door is open to some competition in the ol' horse show mag biz??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

Merry, you and Beezer and I together - I can hear the money rolling in. Oh well ... a nice thought and we can just keep laughing until then.

[Glimmerglass]

Does anyone else who is an ex subscriber get sent every six months or so the same one-sheet reminder to re-join? Mine expired in Dec 1999 and I just got yet another solicitation yesterday.

[Coreene]

Funny how they can do that but not spell check.

I know I mentioned this before - a friend sent them an email some time ago re this, politely pointing it out, and they sent one back which said "were (sic) laughing all the way to the bank."

[Sea Urchin]

Too funny Glimmerglass,
Yes, I'm an ex-subscriber - they could never bother to answer my e-mails,etc. re why I NEVER EVER got issues on time, if at all. I've recently gotten two of those subscription flyers in the mail. I had to laugh - at first I thought someone was FINALLY answering my inquiries. NOT

[wtywmn4]

Hmmm, what about a mass email??? http://www.showcircuit.com Of course, it will only work if they read them. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Gnarly]

how come their website name is spelld rite?
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[wtywmn4]

Too funny, Patty Boyd.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MBS]

"We are the most talked-about equestrian publication on the show circuit, and are considered by many to be the finest publication serving the United States. "

Too funny this is what they say about themselves. But the only thing people are talking about is the poor proof reading skills.

Who are these people that consider this the finest publication serving the United States???? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Coreene]

Not me!

[Michelle Mc]

HOW do they stay published?
(or iz it publeashed?) /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[SuaveReno]

I was talking to a trainer today who showed me her page showing two horses, one of which had the caption "offered for sale". Well wouldn't you know that the photos got reversed on the page and the horse shown for sale is the one who's not /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Totally amazing /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I think my 10 year old must be proofreading for them inher spare time /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

In addition, I am a subscriber and to date have not received one copy through the mail /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Go figure /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Where is Judith Spreckles when you need her /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Coreene]

It seems they never send back anything for proofs. Either that or there are a lot of really dumb trainers who can't spell or punctuate, so I'm guessing the former.

[Chef Jade]

My mom called them and offered to proof their mag for free! They said no-thanks, we don't need anyone.

[Coreene]

Problem is, as long as these people don't complain and keep running ads, nothing will happen. They obviously don't care. We at work all have a complete conniption when there's a typo in our paper. Sure, mistakes happen but we also have several people read it through before going to press, and one gal comes in specifically to do just that - read the entire paper.

Oh well. Guess they know it better.

[Blue Devil]

Well I have a few suggestions for you.

First off, some mistakes are bound to happen--human, technical, or publication error. But repeated errors in spelling, grammar, and punctuation, not to mention lay-out flaws are unacceptable from a subscription-based publication. Unless you enjoy paying for mistakes, that is...

No company in their right mind could survive if its customer relations were anything as brash and brazen as Show Circuit's. Obviously to have paid for a subscription and repeatedly recieve nothing, even after notifying the publication, is outrageous and should not be tolerated.

What to do?

If you can, try to find out which publishing house prints and owns the magazine (i.e. Equus Publishing or Blacknight Inc.) Try locating the email of the owner/CEO of that publishing company and email him/her a clear, formal, grammatically correct letter. Nothing is worse than complaining about someone else's errors and making mistakes yourself! If you can't locate the CEO/owner's email, try emailing the Editor in Chief of the magazine.

The reason I say this often times complaints don't make it all the way up the chain of command. Three rotten eggs working for Show Circuit in subscription, customer service, and copy (the copy editor checks for errors in grammar, spelling, punctuation, or lay-out....at least we have one! maybe that's what they're missing!) could result in all of these problems.

However if you still recieve negative feedback and your problem involves what could be percieved as fraudulent business practices (i.e. taking your check for subscription, but never sending you magazines) contact your the magazine's zip code's local Better Business Bureau. File a complaint. If everyone who has these problems does this, the file for Show Circuit will add up and eventually they may find themselves in a predicament.

**~~Emily~~** proud member of the junior clique!

[Coreene]

Nooooooo, you don't understand - we (friends and I) already HAVE sent letters and emails to the owners/publishers/editor, who shall remain nameless. And their response was "were (sic) laughing all the way to the bank."

[Chef Jade]

Problem is:
Joe and Lisa Thorpe own the magazine. It is edited/published by a long-time A/A client of theirs whose name now escapes me. So it isn't a big-time operation, not that that's an excuse. But it is the only magazine of its kind, really. And as long as people are willing to pay $500+ to gloat about their accomplishments, then the magazine will stay in business. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I shamelfully admit - I have contributed to their bottom line!

[Glimmerglass]

<< And as long as people are willing to pay $500+ to gloat about their accomplishments, then the magazine will stay in business >>

Add to that, pay for their child or themselves to be on the cover. Last I knew the front cover of said magazine was a negotiable "space" according to a journal on magazine ad rates. Just think if the Chronicle was open to that!

[Coreene]

Chef, did they ever send you a proof?

[Chef Jade]

Yes - they faxed a copy, I think... Emily's mom handled all of that but I remember her faxing me something to take a look at and "approve."

[Blue Devil]

I wish someone around here had a "Congratulations look at my wonderful horses" magazine I could buy space on the cover.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

**~~Emily~~** proud member of the junior clique!

[Bumpkin]

maybe no one bothers to proof read what they are sent? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Coreene]

Or they don't have a fax machine at the barn ... but the biggest typos are in the stories. Just ask Ms Dinewudel!

[daytimedrama]

A lady at my barn had them put the wrong picture in four times, and they kept saying Dargonfly Frams!

~Christina~
"Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, Darling!" JD;Heathers

[SuaveReno]

(Kinda like the old Mickey Rooney, Judy Garland films where they mount a Broadway quality production right in the dilapidated barn /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Gosh what could we call the new magazine /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif How about: "I'm So Wonderful" or "We've Got Money" I don't know.

Hey Correene: How much would it take to pull this off ? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif In regards, to Francie, so there won't be any typos in the future...let's just ask her to shorten the spelling of her last name /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Bumpkin]

Yes lets do that Suave!!!!

We can lure Juidith out of the court rooms, talk Tish Quirk into being the photographer.....
get some of the "In One Ear" off of here!!

How about "HORSES Redux"? hahaha

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[Merry]

Hey, I even have a title: "CASH FLOW CIRCUIT" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

We could have my cousin Katey's 4 yr. old son, Trevor, edit it with a purple crayon and it'd still turn out better than the original.

I agree; what the publication needs is a healthy dose of competition. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Bumpkin]

We can get the funds from the new movie we are doing with Chevy Chase...."Horses Vacation"

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[SuaveReno]

Must be the prequel to "The Desert Circuit" cast of characters:

Martin Short as "FrenchFry"
Chevy Chase as "Big Time Trainer"
Calista Flockhart as "EQ Queen"
Golf Cart Queen playing herself
and Nettie the Rottie playing "Tugs" the Jack Russell.
Liz Taylor playing former cross-dressing Grand Prix rider

Directed by Francis Ford Coppola /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[AAJumper]

Well, how about if you paid them the money, but then got no ad???? My friend paid for a "for sale" ad for her hunter, and she and my trainer both paid for an ad for our barn, but she couldn't find either one in the latest edition of Typo Circuit. She was really mad because now that it didn't show up in the current edition, she has to wait for another 3 months for the ad to come out!!! And they already billed them (of course)!!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Coreene]

That's beyond incredible! Legit publication, when you have to prepay, won't run your card or deposit the check until the publication goes to press. Merry, Beezer ... people like this are giving our publishing compadres a bad name!

[Bumpkin]

Ok lets go for it!!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[wtywmn4]

Oh Suaaave, what a movie that would be!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

My vote is for "Horses Redux" too!! We certainly could do just as fine a job! Or people, we could call it the Ca. Clique...... /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Beezer]

And I'm thinking our logo would have to include curb chain bracelets....

Though, wait a sec! We could make those the "And as your free gift for subscribing...."!!

[JustaLurker]

Didn't someone say they actually looked into the financials and even put together a business plan, then found it would be a big time money losing venture? Somehow this is niggling at the back of my brain.

It would seem that, if a new magazine, equally glossy and full of 'good for me' ads could be put together and some financing could be obtained, almost everyone would let their subscriptions to Typo Circuit expire and move on over.

What is the story on starting a magazine, seemingly supported almost entirely by the congratulatory ads with a few real ads from companies such as Ariat and Absorbine?

Cheers, Maggi

[Bumpkin]

I think it should be seriously looked into Coreene dearest!!!!
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[Coreene]

Oh no, I get a headache just thinking about it. Do you realize that if even just Beezer, Merry and I would do it, we'd have to have MASSES of support staff to handle things for us while we were at the barn, and we'd have to make SO MUCH MONEY to pay for our habits.

Actually, it could be done quite easily if you've been doing this forever and had a good initial chunk of $$ to start it. Why, I could scrawl out a biz plan right now ...

[JustaLurker]

coreene, think about it! Perhaps chat with Merry and Beezer offline so we don't get too enthused if it just can't be done. I'll bet there could be a syndicate of some sort put together to raise some seed money.

You guys in the know need to find and price printers, and put together all the pieces needed to publish a first class vanity magazine. Later you'll need gather up story contributors, working for free, /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif gossip gatherers, /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif and volunteer editors to check for typos, misspellings and bad grammar! I'll bet there are a bunch of us who'd volunteer to help get it off the ground. We could mail stuff back and forth online.

Cheers, Maggi

[Coreene]

Mag-ster, I read your post and then FAINTED and then came to and had to throw A BUCKET OF ICE WATER OVER MY HEAD to get over the sheer terror of the idea.

[JustaLurker]

Oh dear! I guess I got carried away with the idea of again having a first class vanity equine magazine again. The old Horses filled such a need, was such fun, and was, I think, profitable - but maybe I'm wrong about that. Oh well, no one can shoot me for dreaming. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Beezer]

Coreene ... I STILL haven't been able to revive myself. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Merry]

"Oh please, can I just be the gossip gatherer! Pick me, pick me!" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Beezer, you know me. Can you just imagine you and me attempting to put together a magazine that other people would want to read? Much less pay for? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Coreene would be driven insane the first week. She'd go postal and kill us both by strangling us with silver lead shanks. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

Or the proverbial curbs Merry... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif What an under taking!! Okay, so that now all have fainted, maybe a tour of the LA times might be a nice wake up call??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Merry, can wty be your second in command?? She just loves to be at the back gate and pick up on all the juicy gossip... /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Merry]

If you only knew what went on behind the scenes at some of these magazines I write for. We'd never have time to ride!

[SuaveReno]

Hehehehehehehe....Guess which OC trainer may be looking for a new home /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

Well, I have come back from a Drizzling At The Coast weekend and can honestly say A) we could do it and it would be divine and B) there's no way.

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[SuaveReno]

Hey Coreene:
I'll take "A" for $500 Alex. Opps! that was from the last thread. But still I'd take A. BTW the job interview going on 2 months and counting and is still continuing. I went up to interview with still another person today and all went well. Interesting, she compared my skills set to a throughbred pulling a milk cart when I asked about the original position that I interviewed for /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Hmmmm I can still pull a milk cart tho' /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Opps forgot back to the magazine idea (thought I was on the old thread for a minute), So let's talk $$ and cents. What do you think this would cost? Any guesses??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I'm game /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Coreene]

Darling Mrs SuaveReno, no one could afford us. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Merry]

Could you just imagine the haggling? I'd want at least 40 cents a word for my writing. My sister would want a decent editor's salary. And Coreene, who'd be selling, designing and promoting, would point out that, without her efforts, there wouldn't BE a magazine! How many ways can you divide zippo between three creative divas? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But we'd have divine lunches! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

I can just see us now, swanning into Antonello in our smelly barn clothes ....

[SuaveReno]

Barn clothes? Antenello's? Hmmmm...that would work. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Merry]

Yes, we'd tromp in, a few diners raising their eyebrows at us, but the maitre'd, since he's had an, uhm, "fling" with Coreene, will seat us promptly at their best table. Alfalfa tidbits will flutter from my hair, Coreene will be on her cell phone with advertisers, and Beezer will be ordering some sort of exotic appetizer that I'll only pick at.

"Oh, those are the horse show magazine people," will be buzzed about the room. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Coreene]

Thad will have indeed given us the best table of all, and Antonio will have Franco whip up a new menu item, giving us proper Caballo credit.

[wtywmn4]

Hey wait! Guess what I just heard, and this REALLY does come from a reliable source.Wty dashes into Antenello's almost knocking down Antonio. Excuse me, so sorry, yes I will watch the next time. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Now who's paying?

So Suave, have you worked your way thru the entire staff of this company yet? Any more interviews and you could be CEO. Are they working you up the ladder on interviews alone?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Coreene]

I put Antonello on my expense account. Beezer, Merry and I jointly own the publication. We run everything through our expense accounts. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Merry]

And so, when the publication goes bankrupt because we're attempting to write off everything, do we have to give back any thing, like our cell phones and embroidered "Curb Chain Circuit Magazine" ball caps?

[Coreene]

No, because we own it all. It is our Curb Chain Magazine. You know ... I did a vague running of numbers and it would work. Not that I would do it, but it would.

[Beezer]

Coreene ... put down that spread sheet and step away from that computer! Just put it down and step on away from there!

Go back to your homes, people. Move along. There is nothing to see here....

[Merry]

Heck, with the lack of electricity, my undergraduate work in Medieval Studies may come in handy: I could write each issue in caligraphy. Just call me Sister Merry, the female monk! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[SuaveReno]

Chief Entertainment Officer. I definitely vote for more company lunches on Coreene's expense account.

Interviews? Nah... just a bunch of pics and congratulatory notices...Hey, I got it... How about a filly of the month instead? Any volunteers? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

We could have a section on the "Unabashed Equine Dictionary"

A "Hack and Yack" column instead of "In one Ear"

And a special golf cart edition
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[Taryn]

Okay, this is getting sickening already! First the Janeane/Letterman deal, now Medieval studies! When will it end? I am a registered anglophile, and it has always been my dream to pursue either Medieval or Renaissance academia. Of course now I'm infatuated with the Regency period, and all their pre-Victorian societal peculiarities. However, I doubt you could get a degree in repressed sexuality! Try as I might though, I found college a complete and utter bore.

Therefore, I officially request that Beezer step down as your sister, and let me have a go at it /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif .

[rusty]

Hi every one! I finally found the non-clique is the cult now going to publish a magazine? I don't feel Like going through the previous pages right now to find out what is happening. Could you give the Readers Digest Condensed Version? My insomnia is finally going away so I will have to catch up later.

[wtywmn4]

Oh Suave, I love the filly of the month picture!! Great idea. Curb Chain Circuit, now there's a catchy title. Give up our what Merry??? We don't do that....Never, ever give up our cells, hats or credit cards.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Uh oh, here comes Beezer, and she has that knife wielding lab with her. Ummm hi Rocky...good boy, drop the nice knife. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Merry]

Ah, Taryn, "repressed sexuality", eh? Why do you think I found Mr. Spock (Star Trek) my kinda guy? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

In my senior year I was taken aside by the dean of the English department and told I "must" take at least 3 units of "some sort of literature class" covering works done "past the 17th century". So I took a Mark Twain class! Hey, at least he was witty. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

In order to replace Beezer, however, you must be able to: 1. Tolerate my constant complaining about the weather; 2. Allow me to rant about the frustrations of my baby greenie even though he wins about every other class he enters; 3. Amuse me with stories about idiotic fellow employees; and 4. Buy me lavish gifts on every conceivable holiday. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

rusty: someone (Bumpkin?) proposed that we start a new Show Circuit-styled magazine without typo's or mismatched ads, ala the old HORSES. And so the saga began...

[rusty]

With starting a new magzine like the old horses would be great, published by the Cult. I like that idea.

[Coreene]

You know, we could do it ...

[rusty]

I second coreen.

[wtywmn4]

Beware the Ides of Beezer!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[JustaLurker]

Aha! I knew it was possible. And now coreene says it could be done. Do you really mean it would be feasible or are you jollying us along? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I think I'm somewhat serious!

I suppose some quiet feelers at some of the prominent barns might be in order as a first step. If no one indicates an interest in placing vanity ads, the whole idea is moot. From what I understand, subscriptions don't support this type of magazine, it's the ads. And, that's borne out by Typo Circuit's attitude toward subscribers.

What the heck, even if it went bankrupt after a year of trying, not all that much would be lost. Since Typo Circuit seems to sort of publish on a ragged schedule of 4 times a year and gets away with that, they've established a precedent. I'd much prefer to see 6 times a year, but...

Are there companies (is there a company) out there with excess capacity just sitting there that might quote a good price to snag the business for a high quality magazine? We'd want to deliver camera ready copy, I presume. That makes the printing costs lower but sure puts a heavy load on the editors.

Assuming the costs to be such that a group of Curb Chainers (or Gold Snafflers) could come up with the seed money, would there be enough volunteers to get the thing off the ground?

I'm just asking, beezer, so don't panic - yet. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Cheers, Maggi

[rusty]

My husbands company does all the pre press type work. Halftones computer stuff and all that stuff I know nothing about. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bumpkin]

Since I am still reading and rereading olde copies of HORSES I REALLY would love to have something to do with bringing HORSES back!!!
What do we need to do Coreene? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Beezer]

Beezer, suddenly realizing that she is VASTLY outnumbered on this magazine score, grabs Rocky to arm herself. "You'll never take me alive, clique-sters!"

[JustaLurker]

Okay, coreene, assuming you're not just pulling our legs and really mean you think it could be done, start putting together a business plan for us.

rusty, start questioning your husband to see what he can say to encourage us in our enthusiasm. He can probably add a lot of good, reliable information. And, he may even laugh and tell us to just forget it, confirming Beezer's thoughts.

Beezer, since you're still a little (lot?) aghast about the whole idea, could you put together a list of negatives for us? Most of us are just starry eyed at the thought of what might be unattainable.

I agree with Bumpkin that it would be such fun to be in on the beginning of a worthy successor to the wonderful HORSES magazine, not the wimpy, laughable pretender Typo Circuit has turned out to be. I'll volunteer to do anything I can.

Cheers, Maggi

[Bumpkin]

I will ply Dublin with lots of Margaritas and the Awesome Elliot tomorrow, and get her to agree to this also, haha /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Mr Dublin is a LAWYER!! We will definately need him. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[rusty]

Bumpkin please have a Margarita for me. Since I will be packing to move etc. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[rusty]

Mr. Rusty is enthusiastic about this project wants to help. He also knows a lot of people in the printing business.

[SuaveReno]

Hi I'm Lexie. !7 hands, lots of crome with a wonderful personality to match. I like ponies, warmbloods and that cute stud Art Deco. My favorite passtime is getting fussed over by my new owners.

/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hey check me out /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[rusty]

Shes addorable! I like her intro. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

Nice pin up!!!Buster chortles softly. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Wish she was in my barn!

Very nice mare Suave. Looks like a winner to me!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[SuaveReno]

What's a good magazine without a pin up /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif HOw about the F.O. Club too? I might have a few to contribute there /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Buster needs to be June's pin up and we could feature an article on Rusty's new spread /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also how about a recipe section for those famous margaritas /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

What do you think Coreene and Beezer?

[Merry]

You know, don't laugh, but we should just try this on a total lark. Maybe just do it in newsprint and publish it sort of anonymously, tongue-in-cheek! The only real outlay would be in postage, although we could also just hand them out at shows and tack stores. What a riot!

But it's all a bitter fantasy, Merry realizes, because these sorts of things have a snowball effect. They roll themselves into existence, and then suddenly melt away.

And no, Suave, we won't allow you to print any veiled references to Ms. Ex-T and her outlandish escapades, lest our budding publication is sued! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SoEasy]

last Thursday, while I was wandering around Devon, I met/spoke to a trainer from LA .. she had flown 3 ponies to show - I never did get her name, or the ponies! She is small enough to ride the ponies, and was wearing a belt with a rhinestone buckle, much jewelry, and has a distinctive voice ... anyone know who I was talking to???? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[rusty]

I think Merry is right if start out on just news print and see where it goes. This could be fun. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

SoEasy, if you could name the ponies, that might help. Or do you remember a barn name?

The discription kinda sounds like a few trainers, sorry /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[JustaLurker]

Hmmm. If the idea was to make the magazine a vanity vehicle, complete with the expensive "Look at Me and What I Did" ads, can this be done well on newsprint? I'd have thought it would take quality glossy paper for them. But, if it's to start as a cute, blind item gossip sheet, then newsprint would do just fine.

Now, if I'm wrong in what I perceive a newsprint publication to be, tell me to put a sock in it and we'll move forward from there.

I guess I'm looking for a business plan from coreene and a mission statement (also from coreene?), however sketchy they might be. I'm still enthused and will do anything I can to help. I do have pretty decent spelling and grammatical skills. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Has Beezer disavowed all knowledge of this project? /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Cheers, Maggi

[rusty]

Justalurker if you can get a copy of the Pacific Quarter Horse Journal it is in news print with a nice cover.

Mr. Rusty said he would see about the cost of printing something like the one I mentioned.

How many other cult members are intersted?

[Merry]

Hmmm... So Easy... rhinestone buckle and lots of jewelry? Oh, the mind boggles at how many California "trainers" fit that description! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

rusty, do you hear those three thumps? That was the sound of me, Beezer and coreene tumbling to the floor after the blood has gushed from our bodies due to the fact that we've slit our throats. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[rusty]

Merry next time just fall to the floor, it is so messy when you start bleeding. Sorry to have caused you guys some trauma. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[JustaLurker]

But Merry, it has been coreene who keeps raising our hopes with her pronouncements that it can be done!

rusty, do you think the Southerners are trying to do us Northerners in so they can run off with our water and mayhap our electricity? Keep on with the basic research - it may not be impossible. But, I have to say I don't know enough about putting together a magazine to even attempt it without their smarts.

[wtywmn4]

Hmm, bending over to survey the damage, wty looks at Merry, Beezer and Coreene. All prone on the ground making sounds similar to gasping, eyes rolling back into their heads. Rocky looking on, with knife clamped firmly in his teeth, wags his tail . "Oh ruuuuusty, could you please kick the ole blender into over drive. I think that might revive our trio." /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Gee and all we wanted to do was start up some reading material???? /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[rusty]

More Margaritas coming up.

[rusty]

What happenes to every one? Or are you avoiding this topic like the plague. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Chef Jade]

My guess is that you were speaking with Kate Considine...long light brown/blond hair. She does have a "scratchy voice." She co-trains Nicoletta Von Heidger who has several fancy ponies. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[JustaLurker]

rusty, it looks like you and I are the only ones brave enough to even think we might tackle something so bold. The rest have run off to higher, safer ground. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I was hoping that everyone had spent the weekend at horse shows and would be signing in later with news of their successes.

[Beezer]

I think I have the first classified ad for our new venture. Found this mare while I was trolling a for-sale site (yes, it IS a slow day at work):

Nice, big mare. Suitable as broodmare or riding horse. Not broke. She does throw off some nice babies. I will be happy to send you a photo of her and the babies that she throws off.

I'm thinking that I have to get a look at this unbroke riding horse that throws off babies!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[JustaLurker]

Oh Beezer, how funny! If you should happen to get a picture of this beast, please post it. Strangely enough, she could be something special, something the current owner doesn't see. People do find jewels out in the field all the time.

[dmj]

I don't check the boards for a few days and look what happens in my absence - a publication is born! hehe. Give me a job too! I can cover the south OC region. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Unrelated but maybe newsworthy for our new mag...my baby tied for first in our home show high jump ....it got up to 5'3 and trainer said no higher. I am not sure at what height this pic was but I will attach it. BTW, that is the boy wonder assistant aboard not me...(I haven't done higher than 4'3 w/ him and would have come off for sure...!!)

[wtywmn4]

Great picture dmj. Could be the first cover????? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Love the graphics....

Beezer, another unbroke creature? One more for the herd? Hmmmmmmm, I now know why you and Merry are sisters!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[SuaveReno]

Not only should we have sections on each riding discipline we should add one for Golf Cart Speed Bump Class /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[rusty]

Should we put dmj's horse or the OCHSA Golfcart Champion on the front cover? My personal opinion is dmj front cover and Golfcart Champions on the back.

[Coreene]

Whoops, sorry for the delay but I took yesterday off. Re Kate Considine (excuse the potential typo but I don't want to scroll back), she trains Nicoletta with one of the peeps from Typo Circuit! No names, please.

When I have a sec ... which is not right now because I have to answer 30 emails and all the phone messages (but love y'all so come here first) ...

[dmj]

Thanks guys! I am just sad that the picture is not very clear. And I tried to correct that not red eye but funky cloudy eye effect that was going on and turned Trey's eye into a black dot /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Suave - do tell all about the meeting! Oh the drama!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JustaLurker]

Just got my "current" issue of Typo Circuit and noticed a rater interesting fact. The subscription price is $34.99 for 4 issues. The cover price is $7, for a yearly price of $28. Hmmm.

Cheers, Maggi

[Coreene]

They try to get you to pay for the postage. You know, when then actually get around to mailing it out.

Maggi, yours was so "current" that it came two or three weeks after I mailed Bumpkin a copy after taking the time to read it myself!!!

[dublin]

My Spring issue of Typo Circuit arrived in the mail today. Let's see, that's 3 issues received from them (plus one issue coreene sent to me /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) in 16 months!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Chef, if I recall correctly, isn't Nicoletta Von Heidegger also co-trained by the Thorpes?? Probably no surprise then that she was on the cover of the magazine a while back.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[This message was edited by dublin on Jun. 05, 2001 at 06:36 PM.]

[Coreene]

Yes, she is the same. Now she trains with Joe and Kate Considine.

[wtywmn4]

Ah dublin, you are just toooo savvy to pass anything by you...... /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Suave, I bet you need an entire blender full after doing that meeting! Bless your heart, and we'll start the margaritas.....

Soooo Beezer, does this mean you are in??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[rusty]

Margaritas for Sauve coming up. Can this new venture have a website?

[AAJumper]

Oh yes, Rusty, a website is a great idea! Finally I can contribute...can I be the webmaster??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

AAJumper: the Web Master
Rusty: the Margarita Master
Coreene the Style Master
Wtny the Shoulder to cry on Master /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
DMJ the Jump Master
JustaLurker: the Wish Master. Gee with charging more to our subscribers we could really get the off the rack price down
/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Beezer: the Ad Master
Merry: the Hambola Master
Bumpkin: the Musing Master
Dublin: the Travel Master
Tayrn: the Dave Master
Rocky: the Ginsu Master
Suave: the Thai master /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Okay. Now I am brain dead /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[This message was edited by SuaveReno on Jun. 06, 2001 at 01:52 AM.]

[wtywmn4]

LOL, sooooo it looks like we have a go??? Or is that lift off Houston! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[rusty]

Sounds good to me.

[Coreene]

Nooooooooo, Beezer is the Editor Master. Coreene is the Ad Master. We are all Style Masters. Or is that mistresses??? Whoo-hoo!

[Merry]

All I can say is that I want to write/contribute under a pseudonym. And I shall track down male centerfolds in some sort of disarrayed riding apparel. Natch, my first choice will be...

Swarthy Arabian Man! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[dublin]

And, of course,

Bumpkin: the juicy horse show gossip master!!
(in the tradition of HORSES magazine's "In One Ear") /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Coreene]

How weird, I posted a reply on this and it showed up and then it vanished. So what I wanted to say was ...

Beezer - Editor Master
Coreene - Ad Master
Elvira - Mistress of the Dark

[dublin]

wow, coreene, I had the same thing happen to me - I posted a while back on another topic, it showed up for a while, and now it's gone!! Go figure.

[Beezer]

Thank you, Coreene, for setting these PHANTOM job duties straight. Beezer dealing with advertisers ... yeah, that could get ugly. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Sample of Beezer's telephone manners on the same morning she left work after being here endlessly into the wee hours because of the election: "Times." "I'm a World War II vet. Do you know what today is?" Long pause on Beezer's end; she's thinking, "Look, old man. I'm operating on four hours' sleep, I'm already having a long day and I'm PMSing. Do you really think I CARE what today is??" Instead, she tersely says, "It's a very busy day after a very long election. I can help you how?" To which he fills her ear with how this is D-Day and all and no one has any historical memory and how it's a shame there was no mention of the anniversary in the paper ... and Beezer is overheard to mutter: "Great. I'm getting a crank call from my father" (only he really wasn't, it's just something my father would do -- call a newspaper to complain about such an oversight) as she slaps the transfer button and sends him to the readers' representive who is PAID to listen to these people.

Beezer is grumpy. Very, very grumpy. That is something Coreene would never be. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

Minor correction coreene......

Beezer- Editor Grump Master /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And how bout Jair for our centerfold??? Whahoooo!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JustaLurker]

Another one:

wtywmn4: Joke Master

[MO]

After being away for a few weeks, i come back to see that the old Calf. Redux is closed down and locked out!! So, are all meeting here or on the Musings thread? Or both? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Coreene]

Me never grumpy? Har har har. I have said GFY to most of my clients - but I wait until I have hung up and can see the LED screen on the phone has disconnected the call (because once Coreene said "GFY you dork" and her ex-client heard).

Or the brain surgeon expensive PR person who called this morning and said could I email him a list of all upcoming business related OC events. "I don't have one." Then bark bark bark, maybe someone else did. Well, then call someone else, buckwheat ...

See, the difference is I could be haughty with the second one because at that moment, I was not making any money off of him.

SALES 101 BY COREENE
aka Making The Most Money Possible

1. be nice in the lead up to making money off them
2. be nice while making money off them
3. only take them to lunch if you think there's 80% chance of making money off them at that lunch
4. if a contract is already in place, do not waste calories by dining with them unless it's time to renew contract

Well - perhaps that's a bit Reader's Digest, but you get the drift. Cash potential = happy happy happy.

Our magazine must be an ABC member and verified. Otherwise we'll seem like a magazine in Beezer's and Coreene's county which had lots of ink a few years back while fudging the truth by 200%.

[dmj]

What is our fabulous venture to be called??

[Hephaistion]

Uh oh! What are you up to Wty!? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

What would I have to wear in this centrefold? I realize its a horse magazine, but knowing you ladies, I'm a bit leery of saying yes blindly /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[dmj]

Your COTH cap, of course!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Beezer]

Well, Jair ... let's just say we're an "artful" magazine. We're tasteless... ER, TASTEFUL. Never fear, we'd never embarrass Alice ... so we'll place her strategically. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[JustaLurker]

Okay, whether we're really serious and whether it actually happens, it's probably time to have a serious magazine naming contest. I'm afraid Horses is taken (sort of like Secretariat will never be used again); and Typo Circuit is already taken. Others that we probably can't use are: COTH, Practical Horseman, etc. But, with all these thinking brains, we should be able to come up with something eye catching and just perfect for our endeavor. How do we research what names are already in use?

[rusty]

I hate these sr moments I had a good name for it a few seconds ago. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Coreene]

"As the Hot Walker Turns"

[dmj]

Tee hee Coreene!! I vote for that!

Special promotion: First 100 new subscribers receive free PLUME WITH PURCHASE!

[SuaveReno]

How about just your COTH hat /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Hephaistion]

Oh and wouldn't you girls just love that eh? Jair and just his COTH cap in the centrefold of your glossy magazine! My cap being the biggest and most effective one of all /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

That was kind of you to consider Alice's image Beezer. Something tells me I'd be bucked off pretty fast otherwise! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Merry]

You know, if this is done "tongue in cheek" (or staple in stategic place) /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif it could be a real crack up!

Again, I lay claim to writing under a pseudonmym. Maybe Erica Thong? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

The Melissa Cardenas Master /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS Welcome back! Where were you? inquiring minds want to know /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[rusty]

Welcomeback Mo.

I also likeas The Hot Walker Turns /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Beezer]

NOT that Beezer is playing along....

"Bays of Our Lives"
"All My Chestnuts"
"General Horspital" (Beezer's horses will all having the starring roles in THAT one! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif )
"The Green and the Restless"

[SuaveReno]

"As the Barn Burns"
"Horsefeathers"
"Through the Combination"


Still brain dead /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[wtywmn4]

"As the manure piles" ? Jair how bout a pair of chaps, and of course, a hard hat! /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Soooo coreene, sales is something we should steer you away from?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Lets see, how bout the proverbial social page of our horse mag? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Yes, the Ca. Redux thread was closed. Due to our proverbial wandering. Something we do constantly.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif So here we are, come join in!!

[SuaveReno]

That reminds me of when my 10 year old saw her new chaps and told me, "Mom, I can't possibly wear those!". She was horrified. Apparently, she though you wear them sans jeans /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bumpkin]

Well Jair will definately be wearing them sans jeans!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Coreene]

HEY HEY HEY!!! There was once a very hot shot of David Lee Roth (when he stil had all his hair) - it was a shot from the back and he was looking into a mirror ... wearing chaps with NO PANTS UNDER. And a great tan.

Jair???? Hmmmm???

[Hephaistion]

Bumpkin! I'm shocked! You seem to assume you know something about my hidden exhibitionism! I thought that was you at that nudist convention last year! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

My dear Coreene, for the record, I have done the chaps sans jeans thing at Halloween. Well, ok, I had boxer briefs on /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif but I'd need a few more tatoos to compete with DLRoth though!

I rather like "As the Barn Burns, but also One Jump at a Time isn't bad either.

[Merry]

How about a swimsuit edition? The mind boggles at the photo display of equestrians, what with their patchwork tan lines, cavorting on the pages of our mag'! It'd be destined to be a collector's item!

[MO]

Yes, I am back. We took alittle Vakay in Spain. My inlaws have a summer house there. It was lovely but to be quite honest, pretty stressful. My daughter (almost 3 yr's.) got "Foot and Mouth" owwie! And my inlaws are a little hard to deal with (to say the least).

Now all this talk of Jair with nothing on but a coth cap and a pair of chaps, did I miss a picture of him somwhere that you all a drooling over? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

No Mo, we're just trying to get him to be our new centerfold! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sorry about your little one. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Hopefully back and recovered.

As the Barn Burns, I like it. Like that counts, /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Okay so it's Jair, the wonderful Alice and on the following pages there will be the rest of us, in bathing suits, paddock boots, COTH caps, standing on a pile. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif That should send the ole rag off with an explosion!!

[JustaLurker]

I'm keeping track (offline) of the proposed magazine job descriptions AND the proposed magazine names, mostly just for fun - call me anal since I can make lists of anything. Most of the magazine names are plays on Soaps so, being a little stodgy in my old age, I'm not sure we'd want to go that way, but I'm certainly open to being overruled. Just feed me a Margarita or a Bloody Mary or two and I'll vote for anything.

Cheers, Maggi

[Coreene]

Well, since I sell ads for a living, I would like to go on doing that. So I will be the one who barks "GFY!" but only after they hang up.

[Bumpkin]

I sometimes linger over the memory of Mark Laskin streaking, around the arena on his big gray horse, at the Sterling Stables Hunter show, circa 1974..... gosh I am old /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[rusty]

Mr. Rusty is still checking out the costs of this venture. He thinks it is a good idea if it doesn't cost to much to start.

[Merry]

I'm in if it's a small (i.e. tiny) investment of cash, but I'll do a lot of writing. I just think the first issue should be at least 50% humor/chitchat/fun stuff to snag an audience. Then we distribute the heck out of it for free, make it easy to get feedback, then go from there.

Can you just hear the demand? "Have you read that rag, 'Horsefeathers'? Could you believe the gossip column, 'As the Barn Burns'? I bet I know exactly who they're talking about! And that centerfold! How'd they get that baseball cap to balance on him like that?"

Merry sees Beezer coming at her with a sock and a roll of duct tape whilst coreene mentally attempts to add a colorful expletive to every word she's about to utter in Merry's direction... /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[rusty]

Cash what cash very limited here, I have colicy horses,just bought property and soon to be homeless. I really like merry's idea of the format for it.

[wtywmn4]

$$$$$$$ Jingle those in front of Beezer.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Has she stopped advancing? Do we have her attention? Come on Beezer, can't we at least give a little try???

[Hephaistion]

So what you're thinking Merry is sort of a tabloid version of Horse and Hound? with some sport coverage, funny Thelwellian type caricatures of people and humourous stories and anecdotes? (and good old plain gossip too of course! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

Can I be a staff writer? Oh, the stories I could tell...... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

and before you give poor MO any ideas of just where my COTH cap is hanging..... I've attached the photo of my one and only chance at being a male model just to set the record straight /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Well, ok, maybe straight is not the right word /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Coreene]

Jair, I vote we put you on the COVER of the first issue, too. It wil INSTANTLY transform the cover into the HOTTEST position (no pun intended), and we'll have publicists even fighting tooth and nail for that position.

Then we can sell subsequent covers for vast sums to trainers who have ordered clients to run ads and then put cost of said ads on clients' credit cards. We take all cards, BTW.

Re cost on a for real basis - one thing that Typo does have going for them is really nice paper stock. Very pricey. I would suggest that ours be at least of that quality, lest we look like the lower class rivals. I'll do many things, but coming in second place in looks vs Joe Thorpe just ain't gonna fly. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MERRY - given our sport's attraction to the film and tv world (as participants, alas, and not in terms of television coverage), I can see opportunities for a wild column AND new advertising avenues ...

[MO]

First I have to say for Rusty that I'm "jingling my curb chain" for ya! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Also I must add that Jair is quite the cutie!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif but your cap is on the wrong head!!!
Oooops did I say that?

[Beezer]

Trust me here, Merry dearest ... the VERY LEAST of what I'm advancing on you with here is a sock and duct tape. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Merry]

Oh dear, so this may take on a celebrity slant? With Beezer's contacts with her old chums on the Calendar/Entertainment section of the Times, we should be able to snag some horsey celebs.

Joy and rapture. Can I get the William Shatner assignment? /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Yes, Jair, a bawdy version of Horse and Hound! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

Jair, you are a winner!!! Front cover it is!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But, we do have to have Alice as well.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Uh oh, the dynamic duo, Beezer & Merry are at it again. Ladies, can we pleeeeeease have peace? Merry did her very best and found Spotty a good home

[JustaLurker]

First, I'm into investing if it isn't an outlandish amount of money. And, if nothing else, I certainly can proof read and even start to build a data base of names, horses, owners, riders, etc., all spelled correctly! It looks like we may be getting sort of serious about this.

Second, I'm now performing my silly task of building 3 lists: suggested magazine names, suggested job descriptions (some have actually volunteered to do a real job), and suggested column names along with the purpose of the column. Perhaps the purpose is superfluous at this point as I think all of them are going to be gossip columns.

I'll post the lists in the near future so those who want to remove themselves from any and all lists can scream bloody murder. Or, if they wish to change what has been attributed to them, they can do that too.

Third, I cast my vote for putting Jair on the cover - perhaps not this picture, but one with the infamous Alice. We've heard so much about her, I'd love to see her in living color.

Fourth, I hate to cast a vote for quality paper as it is expensive, but have to agree that coming in a distant second to Typo Circuit won't buy us what we're ultimately aiming for. Is there a good, proven way to move from low cost mode to high cost mode or would we be permanently relegated to what we start with?

Cheers, Maggi

[Coreene]

High end, straight out of the gate. You only get once chance to make a first impression, bla bla bla.

[Bumpkin]

Can't we get the name HORSES?
Just having that name would give us lots of subscriptions from those of us who adored the magazine!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[JustaLurker]

Bumpkin, I agree that HORSES would be great, but I have a feeling the name is either still owned by Judith Spreckels or by one or both of the Quirks. I'd bet more than a nickel that they wouldn't give it up for any amount of money.

I think we're going to have to do a search for names or phrases that can and cannot be used. If I had any idea how /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I'd get to work on it right away. The other good suggestion was HORSEFEATHERS.

Cheers, Maggi

[Bumpkin]

HORSE or HORSIE?!!! hahaha /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[JustaLurker]

I'm posting my first list! If you want to confirm your job description, want it changed OR want to be removed from the list, let me know and it will be done in the next update!

Job Descriptions
last updated: June 8, 2001
+ after your name means I think you actually volunteered; the rest were gleaned from tongue in cheek suggestions

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>AAJumper: Web Master +
<LI>Beezer: Editor Grump Master
<LI>Bumpkin: Juicy Horse Show Gossip Master +
<LI>coreene: Ad Master +
<LI>DMJ: Jump Master
<LI>Dublin: Travel Master
<LI>Jair: Staff Writer Master +
<LI>JustaLurker: List Builder Master +
<LI>Merry: Columnist Master +
<LI>MO: Melissa Cardenas Master
<LI>rusty: Feasibility Study Master +
<LI>SuaveReno: Thai Master
<LI>wtywmn4: Joke Master +
[/list]

[B.G.M. heidi]

Hehehe. Canter and I actually discussed this idea last year and among our first thoughts was that too few horse mags offered anything resembling humour. With the exception of a column in Horse and Hound, you'd think all horse people were shortchanged in the humour department -- which isn't the case.

Can I be foreign correspondent? Please? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Merry]

Heidi, I hear a theme song as the pages are turned to "News from the North". It's Dave Thomas and Rick Moranis, "Eh?" from SCTV and The Great Far North! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Okay, so who's winning the lottery to get the seed money for the initial issue? Or do we loan Jair out to some sort of charity auction set-up, dress him in a tux and offer him to some dowager society dame for a date?
Proceeds to benefit "Horsefeathers" magazine... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[B.G.M. heidi]

I was thinking "Horses for Courses" but fear that the French may take it too literally. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

We also need a fashion section as well and TV listing for Grandprix stuff that's on the tube. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As for the list. I probably need some suggestions as Thai master doesn't really do anything it was my vague attemp at humor /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Anybody care to estimate how much this will set us back???? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[rusty]

If I get a chance this week end weith a colicing horse a schooling show and maybe just think about packing my house, I will do a trade mark and copy write search. In other words any excuse not to do what I anm suppose to do. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

GULP!!!!!! Suave, are you sure you want to go there? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Where's elizabeth our accountant when you need her?????

How bout Jair: Fashion Master Extradionare +
Heidi: Northern Exposure Master +

Now we do need someone in charge of Photo's and photo ops....
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[SuaveReno]

How about Tai Chi Master /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[JustaLurker]

Yes, I know, I'm starting to be a pain in the neck. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif But, I've put together a batch of random thoughts as they come to mind and here they are.

Quality Paper vs. Newsprint
IF we should decide to go with high quality paper, we're starting with a limited/small number of pages anyhow so it may not cost an arm and a leg. There's no reason to nor can we afford to put out a just under 175 page magazine (the size of the last Typo Circuit). We should start with a cover with Jair and the lovely Alice in glorious color - this would be a real eye catcher and induce sweet young things to grab the magazine. Then we'd have 3 more color pages to fill - inside front, inside back, and back cover.

Could we possibly sell those 3 remaining pages in the first issue? coreene, as Advertising guru, what do you think? The internal pages will, I presume, all be black and white. Here's where the fun and sassy columns are important - lots of gossip, lots of tidbits from recent shows, maybe even an ad or two, and a few pictures.

Subscriptions
I suggest we set a subscription price for charter subscribers and then raise it for later subscribers. We should include a charter member subscription form in this first issue, warning of higher prices for future subscriptions.

Trainer Directory
Can we get "our" trainers/barns to let us include their names in an initial issue directory? Perhaps those first supporters could get free listings for some fixed number of issues but would have to pay to be listed in later issues. Oh yes, how many of these per year do we want to do? There are so many unanswered questions!!

Taking This Discussion Offline
We may need to put together some sort of mailing list (like YahooGroups) so our correspondence can go offline as I suspect our little "business" could get bounced from the Board pretty soon as it's a bit off the wall. I've been administering a closed list for my local PC Club and would be agreeable to creating one for us. I'd just need e-mail addresses for each of you who are interested in the enterprise - I already have some. I'd make it a closed list so that no one but the "magazine staff" sees anything. I'd want a name for the enterprise so I can create the list under that name. Since we don't have a name for the magazine yet, almost anything would do - but we seem to like "Horsefeathers" so certainly could go with that. Then, just by sending an e-mail to < Horsefeathers@YahooGroups.com >, the piece of mail is sent to everyone enrolled as a member. It's a nice, easy way to keep an up-to-date mailing list.

Research Items
rusty: I guess you should have Mr. Rusty research costs based on high quality paper as well as the newsprint kind. As coreene said, and I guess I go along with that, "You only get one chance to make a first impression." Being permanently thought of as second class certainly isn't what we have in mind. I see that you've already volunteered to research the Trademark/Copyright points.

Wrapup
Okay, I'm speaking from absolute ignorance of magazines and publishing here. The rest of you who have actually done something like this need to weigh in. Thoughts keep popping into my head. I have to admit I'm getting enthused so you're going to have to stop me before I do real damage!

[DayLight]

Gosh a new magazine would be good. Your "TYPO CIRCIUT" thread looks like it has started something that could be useful to alot of people with horses.
It would be nice though if you people could try to say at least one nice thing about that magazine, it is a nice magazine and there are alot of us out here who not only really like it, we really like the people who run it and we also actually really like Merry and the articles she write for other "rags"!! Even though people like to say the same kind of bad things about her and her writing as you people have in this column, there are people out here who like Merry and her articles and are not afraid to stand up and tell offending people that the bad vibes and gossip are not good.

As for this new magazine, there is plenty of room for a new one and most riders will be very happy to see one start, not because the "TYPO CIRCUIT" is a bad one but because we (in the horse world)like to see information in print. Merry of all people should know that there is more than enough subscriptions to go around. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Maybe this thread can continue to take itself off the bumpy gossip and mean statements tract it was on and fast forward to the first edition. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Sign me up and I'll put up $$$ but not if SuaveReno continues with her "AX", I personally think it has gotten quite dull! Maybe someone can "Throw That Mama Off the Train"!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[This message was edited by Erin on Jun. 10, 2001 at 04:58 PM.]

[wtywmn4]

So are we making the rounds Daylight?? After being warned off on the H/J BB you have decided to dance here? Mean, gossipy well if the shoe fits dear. One would say you may need to keep your $$$ in your pocket for awhile. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[dublin]

Maybe we all could pitch in for a case of 'Meow Mix' for daylight????? /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[Erin]

Please remember the BB rules, and do not feed the trolls.

The moderators will handle it.

[Coreene]

I actually buy every issue of Show Circuit. I enjoy reading it, and I have the added bonus of counting typos. But it is a fun way to keep up with what everyone is doing and who bought which horse, yadda yadda.

And any competitor publication would have to go out with as much 4C as Show Circuit does. That's one of the nice selling points - a pretty magazine with feel appeal.

The only ones I could not live without, of course, are COTH and de Hoefslag. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Merry]

Gosh, I suppose this means Daylight won't be attending my book signing in a few months? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

By the way, did I mention that my sunflowers were in full bloom?

[SuaveReno]

I love the magazine myself but apparently a new BBer missed the lampoon /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DayLight]

The new BBer did not miss the Lampoon, the new BBer just likes the "TYPO CIRCUIT" magazine..... it has been very good for the show scene after Horses went away...what else have we had and who else has put up the money for another one..... it is actually very expensive to produce a magazine as you know.
"TYPO CIRCUIT" has alot of people who really like it and it is beautifully done...even with the Typo's

[dublin]

The pictures are pretty (although I'm hoping one day to see an actual automatic release in the magazine, but of course that is a whole 'nother topic.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) and the graphics are nice.

It's just too bad, based on personal experience (and confirmed by other people on this board), that they have such difficulty delivering issues to paying subscribers, given the hefty subscription price.

I subscribed to HORSES magazine throughout the 60's and 70's, and have to say that it was definitely superior to Show Circuit in the areas of horse show results and show reviews; bought and sold information; Judith Spreckles' wonderful 'In One Ear' anecdotes; and most certainly in the quality of the editing.

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[Bumpkin]

"I subscribed to HORSES magazine throughout the 60's and 70's, and have to say that it was definitely superior to Show Circuit in the areas of horse show results and show reviews; bought and sold information; Judith Spreckles' wonderful 'In One Ear' anecdotes; and most certainly in the quality of the editing.

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller "

We would love to see a revival of that wonderful magazine.
I read Show Circuit also, but I am still rereading my HORSES!!!
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[This message was edited by Bumpkin on Jun. 11, 2001 at 03:08 AM.]

[wtywmn4]

Please understand Daylight, that the sign Do not feed the trolls is posted here. And we will abide by it!

[DayLight]

I agree with what you Dublin, can't get it delivered, can't find it in the tack stores, have to read through Typo's BUT back in the 60's and 70's there was this same type of conversation but surrounding other problems.....only an advertising magazine, had to be on Judy's good side, served her personal agenda with the In one Ear, her favorites got space, not even in the tack stores. Nothing was perfect about that one either. It would be the best for all if TYPO could monitor it's spell check and be on time but it still is a good magazine.
Any update on you guys starting one.... it is something that would be very well received and you guys sure have great ideas....any chance for reality...hope so /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bumpkin]

We use to beable to purchase HORSES at the tack shop.
Cannot recall how we got it in California though. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

Always bought it at the tack shop. Horses, that is. Now buy Typo Circuit, read it and send it to Bumpkin.

[Bumpkin]

Coreene is my saviour!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Now I don't have to race to tack shop that is out of the way and miss out on it anymore!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Chef Jade]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> BUT back in the 60's and 70's there was this same type of conversation but surrounding other problems.....only an advertising magazine, had to be on Judy's good side, served her personal agenda with the In one Ear, her favorites got space, not even in the tack stores. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And this is also a problem with the current mag. Does anyone think NVH always gets a multitude of color pages in the front, and previously a cover (maybe 2 covers if I recall correctly) because she is such a fabulous rider? Don't get me wrong - I actually DO think she is a great rider, but I think it shows that there is some "self-servicing" going on with SC as well.

[dublin]

I've noticed that as well, right through the last issue (that I amazingly actually got through the mail....)

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[Coreene]

I actually thought they were showing restraint when laying out that paper by putting her as far back as they did.

[Beezer]

I can vouch for Merry's sunflower garden! It is is grand ... why, some of those suckers are taller than I am! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You know, once we get this up and running, am thinking we should expand to a gardening magazine ... Sunset could use a little goose, methinks, although they certainly have far fewer typos than Typo Circuit and their customer service is so much better....

But still. We could all use another "rag" to work for. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

And sorry Erin ... I know I'm not supposed to feed the trolls. But wasn't sure if a "snack" counted. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Bumpkin]

I always thought that Judith was paid for the covers. I never thought that they were not paid for. The whole magazine is one big advertisement, except for the Show Results, In One Ear, Bought and Sold, Vital Statistics, were all printed if you sent it in to her.
I really liked the reviews and stars given to the shows. haha /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I think that Show Circuit also is paid for the colour cover. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Was Rainbow Canyon in the last issue?

[Coreene]

Bumpkin, silly girl, I mailed you the last one. And the one before. I think Rainbow Canyon was in both. They seem to be fixtures.

This is one of the few magazines where you can buy all four covers. Not that I mind - capitalism at its best!

[Bumpkin]

OK Coreene I will go check it out again, I am certain that I did not see Rainbow Canyon in the last issue /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Dublin can attest I keep them all seperated and neatly stacked in an otherwise chaotic room!! haha /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
There is nothing wrong with being able to purchase all those pages or covers or inside covers. Less favourtism to that sort of thing anyways. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

Plus pure dosh. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Bumpkin]

There are three pages of ads for Rainbow Canyon, but not the usual people, whose names have just escaped my memory.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
IOU!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Lord Helpus]

Don't forget that "Horse Show Dog of the Month" was also a non-paid spot in the old Horses mag. And my Emily and Charlotte were chosen one month. I was the Sept issue in the late 70's, as I recall.

I was SO proud..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Bumpkin]

Yes, Horse Show Dog of the Month, I had my first JRT in there I think sometime in the early 70's late 60's.
And of course there was Horse Show Mom, Horse Show Dad....and even sometimes Horse Show Family!
I liked that Judith was equally at home with the Saddlebred and Western Divisions, since she was once married to Joe Blackwell the Saddlebred trainer...it was fun to read the news about them also, not just H/J.
Merry or Coreene you really need to speak to that lady!! The famous Judith Blackwell Spreckels.
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[wtywmn4]

"Horse Show dog of the month" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif What a wonderful legacy to all the greats that was!! Boy you are bringing back such wonderful memories. Hmmmm, I did see Ms Spreckels several years back and we all told her how much we missed the mag. She said she missed it too, but it was time to move on. Does anyone know whether she might be interested again??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Bumpkin]

I nominate Merry to interview her for us!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

I wish I knew where my old copies of "Horses" went. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

My Typo Circuits are happily sent to Bumpkin now; before they went to my HR director's daughter, who could never understand why anyone would want to ride English. And that was my signal to send them in another direction! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Am I the only one who cannot toss out magazines? Lots of us at our barn bring our old Chronicles and just about every other equestrian magazine to the stables and leave them in front of the tack store on the "magazine table." Then whomever wants can take them. On a separate note (horse connection = it happens at the stable) we have a HUGE book club at the barn where we're all wildly passing them around. Saves a fortune.

[Merry]

Oh wait, my first assignment will be to interview Judith Spreckels? Does that mean I have to wear something other than jeans? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Someday I'll have to compile my list of best/worst interview subjects. Let's just say Tad Coffin was by far my fave. The more, ahem, "quirky" equestrians will have to be discussed off line or at a margarita mixer! I'm still awaiting my chance to interview "one on one" /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif The Swarthy Oded!I think he's actually in another movie soon where he rides a horse again. WAIT! After Jair, we'll snag Oded for a cover shot! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Justice]

Should this dream ever become a reality. . .

We can use the trainer listing off Equestrians Online. . .no worries. Many more than Show Circuit! Trainers LOVE free publicity, trust me! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Seriously - something must be done.

[JustaLurker]

If anyone wants to join our little venture -- offline in a YahooGroups mailing list, just e-mail me with your name and e-mail address and what you might be able to contribute, if anything. We're being a little exclusive so adding you has to be okayed by the current members.

You also have the option of being completely invisible. So, request that option and I'll send you the details on how we've worked that out.