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BlueEyedSorrel
Mar. 18, 2012, 10:15 AM
Wow, I'm so glad I didn't miss OT day! My internet was on the fritz all day yesterday, probably because of the horrendous storms MO had. Anyway....

As I posted on Off Course Friday, I am moving end of May from St. Louis to Columbus, OH for my residency in internal medicine at The Ohio State University and hopefully will stay there for my sub-specialty training too:D. Sooo excited. This was my first choice...great medical center, professors super well known in my research area (leukemia), ~90 minutes from my parents, extended family and friends in the area, many horsie amenities. I'm already crossing my fingers that I'm not on call or working nights for the Congress reining freestyle.

I already got several barn & trainer recommendations from COTH (thanks guys!). I'd love other advice about vets (equine and small animal both, I have cats), apartment complexes within 20 minutes of the medical center and anything else. I'm going back to Ohio in mid-April to find living arrangements for me and Miss Pixie.

Thanks in advance,
BES

bumknees
Mar. 18, 2012, 11:50 AM
Well honestly I cant help with living in Columbus as it been mmmm 2012-1976= mmm long time since I've actually lived there... but word of warning it is the biggest little hick town you will ever live in... honest to G*d it is...

Yes it is not as safe as it was when I was living there a long time ago but the aptomsphere is hte same.. Oh yeah next fall if you dont do football.. And have no desire to get caught up in the traffic on saturday leave on friday.. And hand me your tickets :) I bleed scarlet and grey..

ther are some traditions one should know about going to The Ohio State University and yes the word THE is offically part of the name..

.. Yes Woody is G*d there never say a desparaging word against Woody.. I do not believe you have to genuflict(sp) when you pass his likeness but I maybe wrong consult our student hand book for referance on that... Though I think token of appiceration are welcome again check handbook for referance to that...
do not be suprised to see grown people of both genders on Anywhere from thrusday afternoon ( Monday if a Michigan week and it is a home game) through saturday afternoon Late night if the boys win. wearing nuts around their necks like necklaces in homage to the state tree the buckeye which is a poinious nut. Yes the fans are crazy nuts wearing them that are poisinous.. they wear them in layers. they garb themselves in scarlet and grey they drive vehicles painted in the same colors. Some have large winabagos painted in scarlet and grey.. can you guess what the school colors are?

Prior to the games( home only) people will walk/flock are carried if they want to go or not because they are in the area and the crowd happens to take them there.. to St. Johns Arena for a free concert if you will from TBDBITL tranulated The Best DamnBand InThe Land also known to the outsiders The Ohio State Marching Band. this is called the Skull Session. They pack St. Johns to standing room only and wait and wait and wait until they hear the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9F8vb41RIo band come in... you thought the crowd was loud before..
then after the crowd goes back across to the Horseshoe.. It is not ohio stadium, or buckeye stadium .. It is and alwas has been The Horseshoe Or simply the shoe... And if you go to the game you can expect to see this every home game...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWolVsKlAI&feature=related

Oh and you must learn this... I almost forgot OMGIH how coul I forget this it had some structrual intregerty of the shoe.. a few years back about the stomping and the jumping.. so they asked the band not to play it for the rst of the game..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbI8FmotweM

Lol believe it or not I can still get around the city and it has been like I said a long time since I have lived there but nothing has changed except down town sometimes they change the direction of some of the streets.. And that can be frustrating...

Sorry cant help with boarding facilities did not have horsie when I lived there though did try to convince parents we could keep horsie in garage.. They did not go for it.. :(

Anyway welcome have fun..

BlueEyedSorrel
Mar. 18, 2012, 12:06 PM
Oh, I'm an Ohio native (both parents went to OSU) so I know all about the buckeyes football mania. I'm coming from St. Louis, which is similarly nuts about its baseball team. I am agnostic about sports:lol:, and I've survived.

My father got a personal chewing-out from Woody in the 1970s. Dad was tutoring a football player in a basic biology 101 type class for extra $$, and the guy was failing. He got a personal phone call from Woody to inform him that the player WOULD pass the exam, come hell or high water. My father was an anti-establishment hippy dental student with long hair (at least in those days), and told Woody that his player was just dumb and could not possibly pass. You can imagine the response from Woody. School eventually arranged for the jock to take a "special exam" with repeating answers of ABCD, which he was told about BEFORE taking the exam....and he still failed!

BES

ellebeaux
Mar. 18, 2012, 12:46 PM
HAHAHAHAHA, that's a fantastic story about Woody Hayes. Both my parents are Buckeyes, I did my M.S. there.

Can't say I really liked Columbus but I was in grad school so I didn't really do much except school, work and the barn. So I'm not a good judge of the city itself.

BlueEyedSorrel
Mar. 18, 2012, 12:54 PM
HAHAHAHAHA, that's a fantastic story about Woody Hayes. Both my parents are Buckeyes, I did my M.S. there.

Can't say I really liked Columbus but I was in grad school so I didn't really do much except school, work and the barn. So I'm not a good judge of the city itself.

I somewhat feel that way about St. Louis. It's not that I don't like the city, but for the 9 years I've been here, I've been on a graduate student stipend. Most of my discretionary income went to my horse. I did have student season tickets to the symphony (10 bucks a show!), but other than that, couldn't really afford to partake in a lot of the city's cultural offerings.

BES

dangerbunny
Mar. 18, 2012, 02:14 PM
There is a zoo there and I was once there for Equine Affair, that is all I know. ;)

WildBlue
Mar. 18, 2012, 03:14 PM
A lot of money has been poured into revitalizing the Short North area immediately south of campus. It now has a ton of restaurants, bars, and microbreweries (and Nationwide Arena), though somewhat at the expense of most of the funky little galleries and junk stores that really made Gallery Hop (first Saturday night of the month) so much fun. The improvements extend all the way up into the south campus area and overall it's a lot safer.

If you want to make it to (or from) the barn on weekends, don't live within a few miles of campus. The traffic and crowds for home football games can't be emphasized enough, and I even got (very nastily) harassed for doing my research on High Holy Game Days instead of drinking and watching the game. There's also an annual marathon and a few other events that close off streets near campus and can strand you, hot and smelling of horse, a mile from home.

Commuting to campus, avoid the downtown split (I-70/71). Traffic is very heavy and routinely comes to a standstill. 315 during the morning and evening rush is also an enormous PITA, mainly because the heavy traffic routinely does a 65 mph to 0 crash stop for no apparent reason. You'll also find traffic is heavy all around the NW side. My first year or so of grad school, I lived out past Autumn Rose farm and had to leave home at 6 a.m. to avoid the worst traffic. It sucked. The area someone mentioned (IIRC on your other thread) that's on the far side of Grandview from OSU is a decent commute and very popular with young adults who are either in grad school or are working near OSU.

The 'pretty' part of the Columbus area is north, northeast, and east. Most of the rest is flat. If you have a trailer, you'll be within an hour or two of a lot of parks with riding trails. The Hocking Hills (SE of Cols) is a must-do, but make sure your horse is in shape. Alum Creek (north side) is closer but can be muddy. Mohican is a bit farther north but has more all-weather trails. There are also lots of county parks, etc. that allow riding. There are three newer malls--one on the NW side (Tuttle), one on the NE (Easton), and Polaris north of town.

BlueEyedSorrel
Mar. 18, 2012, 05:45 PM
Thanks for the inside scoop! I will have to check out Short North....not big on drinking but galleries are more my style.

The plan is to not live in area popular with undergrads. At 31, I'm too old for the partying, drinking, noise etc. I want to be within a 15-20 minute commute of the OSU medical center. Resident shifts at the hospital start at 630am and go till 6pm, so hopefully I will miss the bulk of the morning traffic. Every third month I will be doing outpatient work, which is more 8-5ish hours.

When I was going to college in Cleveland, I used to drive home to Cincy and the rate limiting step was always getting through C-bus, so I'm familar with the traffic issues. In my wildest dreams, I'd be mid-way between the hospital and whatever barn Pixie is at.

In St. Louis, I already am the odd one who has NO CLUE when the sainted Cardinals are playing. Every spring I spend an entire day wondering why the entire city is dressed in red and then realize while watching the 10pm local news that it was opening day. Same thing when I lived in Cleveland and Cincinnati. I figure in Columbus it will be the same, just a different team, different sport.

BES


A lot of money has been poured into revitalizing the Short North area immediately south of campus. It now has a ton of restaurants, bars, and microbreweries (and Nationwide Arena), though somewhat at the expense of most of the funky little galleries and junk stores that really made Gallery Hop (first Saturday night of the month) so much fun. The improvements extend all the way up into the south campus area and overall it's a lot safer.

If you want to make it to (or from) the barn on weekends, don't live within a few miles of campus. The traffic and crowds for home football games can't be emphasized enough, and I even got (very nastily) harassed for doing my research on High Holy Game Days instead of drinking and watching the game. There's also an annual marathon and a few other events that close off streets near campus and can strand you, hot and smelling of horse, a mile from home.

Commuting to campus, avoid the downtown split (I-70/71). Traffic is very heavy and routinely comes to a standstill. 315 during the morning and evening rush is also an enormous PITA, mainly because the heavy traffic routinely does a 65 mph to 0 crash stop for no apparent reason. You'll also find traffic is heavy all around the NW side. My first year or so of grad school, I lived out past Autumn Rose farm and had to leave home at 6 a.m. to avoid the worst traffic. It sucked. The area someone mentioned (IIRC on your other thread) that's on the far side of Grandview from OSU is a decent commute and very popular with young adults who are either in grad school or are working near OSU.

The 'pretty' part of the Columbus area is north, northeast, and east. Most of the rest is flat. If you have a trailer, you'll be within an hour or two of a lot of parks with riding trails. The Hocking Hills (SE of Cols) is a must-do, but make sure your horse is in shape. Alum Creek (north side) is closer but can be muddy. Mohican is a bit farther north but has more all-weather trails. There are also lots of county parks, etc. that allow riding. There are three newer malls--one on the NW side (Tuttle), one on the NE (Easton), and Polaris north of town.

WildBlue
Mar. 18, 2012, 06:17 PM
The further you are from campus, the fewer the undergrads. There are a number of apartment/condo communities that cater to childless working folks within the geographic area you described. There are a lot of businesses around OSU and downtown, so there's good demand (and supply) for young professional housing. Grandview, Upper Arlington, Short North, and (suprisingly to me, since I always thought it was a dump) Clintonville can be expensive. My memory is a bit out of date, but IIRC heading due NW toward Dublin from OSU had some more reasonable areas, ditto Hilliard.

On the flip side, do NOT go east or southeast from OSU. The neighborhoods rapidly deteriorate. There are nice pockets downtown, but they're pricey. By campus, the whole area east of High Street can be very dangerous, especially at night. In other words, don't try to walk to the fairgrounds (where Equine Affaire and QH Congress are held) from campus. Around campus, be aware that it's a very, very large school with plenty of drugs and predators. Not to be a downer, but people are raped, mugged, and murdered in the blocks right around campus every year, so don't be casual about your safety, okay?

BlueEyedSorrel
Mar. 18, 2012, 06:26 PM
I've spent the last 9 years living in one of America's most dangerous cities (St. Louis, always makes the top 3) and survived. I'm a bit of a wimp, not at all the type to go galavanting around by myself at 2am. I'm more the lock your car doors, use the campus security escort service, carry pepper spray type.



Around campus, be aware that it's a very, very large school with plenty of drugs and predators. Not to be a downer, but people are raped, mugged, and murdered in the blocks right around campus every year, so don't be casual about your safety, okay?

jn4jenny
Mar. 18, 2012, 06:44 PM
WildBlue is giving you sage advice. I agree with most of it, although I don't think OSU is any worse in the traffic/crime/etc. departments than any other big University I've been to. University of Virginia has the same type of student ghetto east of campus and equally bad traffic on basketball days. Ditto with University of Michigan south of campus and on football days. :lol: Don't be a dumbass, stay aware, and you'll be fine.

Living-area-wise, it sounds like you're a good match for Grandview/Harrison West/etc. My friend lives in an absolutely *lovely* apartment complex with lots of young professionals, more mature grad students, etc. 6 minute drive to the hospital and the area seems very safe. I go down there sometimes to hang at their Harrison West Puppy Pup on Friday (slogan: "Puppies play. Humans drink. That is all.") http://www.facebook.com/groups/225638397491103/

I love living in Columbus--and that's from a girl who grew up near Washington DC and thought she was tired of the midwest after five years in Michigan--but I also live nowhere near campus, and I think that makes the difference. I don't consider it a "hick town" but I also go riding east of town on football game days, so I suppose I miss the worst of the hickdom. There's a decent symphony, ballet, art museum--usually the mark of a halfway respectable city. Places to fall in love with in Columbus: Jeni's Splendid Ice Creams, the North Market, Book Loft (takes up a whole city block). Rod's Western Palace is your local big Western tack store, and Equus Now is your local big English tack store. If you need someone to run into Rod's and check the bulletin board for board listings, I pass it their store on the way to campus.

Re: horse life in Columbus, I ride English so can't say for sure whether this is true for Western riders too--but ask a LOT of questions about turnout. I've never had such trouble finding a barn with decent turnout until I moved to this town. A lot of barns use this phrase "weather permitting," which ends up meaning "If the footing isn't absolutely perfect and the sky perfectly blue, your horse is staying in. Or if you're lucky, it's going out for an hour or two." In short, don't trust a BO's description that your horse will go out X hours daily every day. Talk to the boarders and get the real scoop.

bumknees
Mar. 18, 2012, 06:56 PM
Dont get me wrong I love columbus I grew up in the clintonville/ beachwold area.. straight down the street from the ladies club/whetstone park.. Litterally.. Love it there. If I could not live where i am right now and had to choose someplace else i had lived before that was not someplace surrounded by horses.. I would choose columbus... i could easily still get around town on the COTA.. I still remeber the routes. though I imgine they have changed a bit.
south east side has never really een wonderful even when they thought they could make peple believe it was.SW is worse though ther is a reason they used to call it the bottoms...
I used to go to Mrs McGinnis preschool when she was still alive... i know who lucy from Lucy toys shop is.. i used to watch her daily on tv even when she would go to the state fair..
my dad played golf with woody.. .
Like I said I love columbus.. If not for my stupid foot Id drive down there right now and just roll down the hill in the back park of whetstone..And maybe walk across the big pipe cross the creek also.. now Im really dating my self as neither is probably there any more...
When I said " biggest little hick town" it is a term of endeerment as in its a nice city that feels like small town becsue everone is nice and when your in a neighborhood you know your neighbor... that type of endeerment...

BlueEyedSorrel
Mar. 18, 2012, 07:12 PM
When I said " biggest little hick town" it is a term of endeerment as in its a nice city that feels like small town becsue everone is nice and when your in a neighborhood you know your neighbor... that type of endeerment...

No offense taken, bumknees. I grew up in a "little hick town" midway between Cincy and Dayton, so going to St. Louis for med school seemed big for me initially. I had the test scores, grades, publications etc to have applied to and likely been accepted to a big name Ivy League hospital in Boston, NYC, San Fran etc, and chose not to apply. My horse was not the only reason. The truth is that I don't like super large cities...nice to visit, too noisy and expensive to live in for me. I wanted big enough to have an orchestra and some museums and a music/arts scene, small enough that I can afford my horse AND be able to buy a house someday without spending a bazillion dollars.

At the start of the whole job search, I talked to my advisor and basically said, "OK, tell me what hospitals I should look at that aren't in Boston, NY or CA." He told me that OSU, for my particular field, is a hidden gem, very well known in the field with a lot of national leaders, not well known by the general public outside of Ohio and the surrounding states. Which doesn't really matter, because the general public won't be who hires me when I'm done with this next phase of my training.

The only downside is I can't go around saying "yeah but.....I went to Hahhhh-vaddd," which I don't care about anyway;)

BES

bumknees
Mar. 18, 2012, 07:17 PM
So if you dont mind me asking besides internal med.. what is your specality? lol who knows with my body I may need it some day...

BlueEyedSorrel
Mar. 18, 2012, 07:25 PM
So if you dont mind me asking besides internal med.. what is your specality? lol who knows with my body I may need it some day...

Hematology & oncology. I did my graduate thesis on leukemia (some genetics work with patient samples, some mouse work), and plan to have an academic career with some mix of seeing patients, research and teaching. The exact mix is yet to be determined:)

BES

bumknees
Mar. 18, 2012, 07:31 PM
mmm yup lol guess what Ive got what you need... polycythemia, JAK 2 mutation AND essential/ primary thrombocytosis(sp sorry) if ya need blood I got it for ya... how weird...

WildBlue
Mar. 18, 2012, 09:52 PM
Very good point about the turnout. It seems especially difficult to get any turnout, even in deep mud, within a short drive of town. I ended up having my horses almost an hour away. On the plus side, the Western scene around Columbus is very active.

Yeah, as long as you're city-savvy and stay alert, you should be fine. I just had a friend--a Cols native--get mugged right on South campus by the dorms. One of the dangers of paying more attention to your phone than your surroundings... That said, I did live in a crappy area opposite Section 8 housing for several years with nothing worse than a couple good scares.

Stauf's Coffee Roasters in Grandview was a nice place to study. I should also mention you'll be within about 2 hours of Ohio's Amish country (northeast of town). Local cheese, local meat... Yum. On that note, old downtown Worthington (due north of campus) has a very active summer farmer's market and I'm sure some other communities do, as well. And Antrim lake/park is on the bike path running from Worthington along 315 and down past Whetstone park and campus (the section just north of campus and the part around Antrim are pretty scenic)--good places to jog, roller blade, walk/swim your dog, and check out attractive males doing the same...

elmerandharriet
Mar. 19, 2012, 09:31 AM
I agree most barns rarely turnout, it seems to be an Ohio thing..

bumknees
Mar. 19, 2012, 11:31 AM
mmm Really I've alway been lucky i guess my horses have always had butt loads of turn out..

But I've been either in the Chagrin area or where I am now. Where I have mine now he gets probably 14 or 15 hrs in at night( or at least that is winter schedule not sure what summer is to bring) out after breakfast around 6 am is done out until dinner around 7 or 8 . then in for night. Unless I call and ask for him to stay in or to be brought in before I come out. If I dont call I have to trudge through the pasture to get him.

I dont think I would personally board someplace that had the condition of turn out weather permitting..
I do not recall ever seeing that in contract or rules of barn... But again I have not had to deal with that either.