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FatCatFarm
Mar. 13, 2012, 11:51 AM
Anyone have or anyone seen this trailer? It's got a rather interesting configuration. Thought it would be perfect for 2 horses plus a pony maybe? Which is what I would be hauling for the next several years with my husband and daughter going along with me. Might could also put a cart up there?

I might be better going with a more traditional 3 horse though.

kimball56
Mar. 13, 2012, 07:34 PM
I have an Adam 2+1. My front compartment is 9 feet so I can haul a third horse up there if needed. Mostly haul just 2. I have a friend who is 68 and shows her 15 hand ArabX in dressage. She can cross tie her horse up there walk, into the dressing room and get her tack. Then walk her horse out the side ramp! Comes in very handy in bad weather at shows.

FatCatFarm
Mar. 13, 2012, 08:57 PM
Is your Adam aluminum? I think the space on the Sundowner is 4ft. There just are not any horse trailer dealers close by to go see trailers. The Sundowner dealer is 2 hrs away.

bhrunner06
Mar. 13, 2012, 08:58 PM
do you have a link to a pic online anywhere?

FatCatFarm
Mar. 13, 2012, 09:30 PM
Here you go: http://www.sundownertrailer.com/tlr-Charter_GNSE3H.html

And from the diagram attached, if I'm reading it right, the extra front stall is 90" wide which is almost 8ft. Heck yeah another horse would fit up there an not just a pony. I really like that set up. Gives you alot of versatility. You could stash a Meadowbrook there.

Whitfield Farm Hanoverians
Mar. 14, 2012, 08:40 AM
Hi Fatcat, I see you're in GA so see if it's insulated. If not, check out the Shadow trailers. They have 2+1s that are totally insulated, walls, ceiling. Around the same price as the Sundowners.

Whitfield Farm Hanoverians
Mar. 14, 2012, 08:43 AM
Hi Fatcat, I see you're in GA so see if it's insulated. If not, check out the Shadow trailers. They have 2+1s that are totally insulated, walls, ceiling. Around the same price as the Sundowners.
This trailer is in FL & is new even though it is a 2009. Friend has an identical copy of this trailer & they've put many many miles on it. Hauls great, very roomy for the horses. I've used it & my broodmare & foal were the coolest I've ever had them while hauling.
http://www.delratontrailers.com/horse-trailers-for-sale.html

kimball56
Mar. 14, 2012, 08:47 AM
Yes, my Adam trailer is aluminum. Bought it new and picked it up at the factory in Virginia. The standard front box is 7'. I had 2' added on there and a foot in the dressing room. All the bells and whistles including hydralic jack and WERM flooring cost around $27.

FatCatFarm
Mar. 14, 2012, 09:08 AM
WFH that's a NICE trailer at a great price! And while I LOVE the configuration, I think it's more trailer than I realistically need. More often than not, I will just be hauling one or two horses; only occasionally three when my husband goes along, so I might be better served by getting a 3 horse slant big enough for warmbloods.

Whitfield Farm Hanoverians
Mar. 14, 2012, 09:36 AM
Fatcat, my friends have found that the front box is mainly used for hay, supplies, feed, etc. They weren't sure if they'd use it either but they always have something in it.

ChocoMare
Mar. 14, 2012, 09:50 AM
I'd go with the 2+1 before getting a slant any day. Ditto Whitfield's info on the extra space; )

FatCatFarm
Mar. 14, 2012, 10:00 AM
I agree, the space is great. I'm just wondering how big a PITA it is regularly moving that big a trailer around. Also, I have just a 3/4 ton Chevy Silverado 2500 LS with tow pkg and don't want to have to upgrade my truck for the trailer.

ChocoMare
Mar. 14, 2012, 10:02 AM
Aha... then I would stick with a straight gooseneck 2-horse for a 3/4 ton truck. A nice one hit CL up here this morning: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/grd/2901226298.html ;)

FatCatFarm
Mar. 14, 2012, 10:10 AM
But that's what I have - a 2002 Exiss SS 200 ST - 2 horse straight load goose, extra tall and wide and I would like to be able to haul 3 horses since now both my daughter and husband are riding.

Quinn
Mar. 14, 2012, 10:13 AM
I have this trailer and easily ship 3 at a time when needed. The front area is perfect for tacking up. You're right at the side ramp. Love this configuration and really love the trailer.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

FatCatFarm
Mar. 14, 2012, 10:14 AM
Having said that, the 2+1 might still be doable. Finally found what the darn thing weighs: http://www.horsetrailertrader.com/horse-trailer.aspx?stock=23086

And my truck should haul that with 2 horses and a pony.

Edit: Actually, the one above is not a true 2+1 as there is no dressing room; only storage in the nose. The Sundowner true 2+1 weighs about 5k empty but is still doable for the truck I have.

FatCatFarm
Mar. 14, 2012, 10:24 AM
I have this trailer and easily ship 3 at a time when needed. The front area is perfect for tacking up. You're right at the side ramp. Love this configuration and really love the trailer.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

What type of truck are you hauling it with, just out of curiosity?

Grataan
Mar. 14, 2012, 11:51 AM
The Charter SE 2+1 is built with the same quality and standards that people have come to expect from a Sundowner.This part made me laugh-so should we expect the same shoddy powder coated frame that will corrode and cause the floor to drop out?

Quinn
Mar. 14, 2012, 12:03 PM
What type of truck are you hauling it with, just out of curiosity?

A 22 year old Ford F250. Gas. Very expensive. :)

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/Ballyduff/DSCN0541.jpg

FatCatFarm
Mar. 14, 2012, 01:34 PM
A 22 year old Ford F250. Gas. Very expensive. :)

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/Ballyduff/DSCN0541.jpg

Mine is 12 and just got a new transmission. :D

Quinn
Mar. 14, 2012, 02:18 PM
FatCatFarm, you're all set. :D

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

FatCatFarm
Mar. 14, 2012, 02:36 PM
FatCatFarm, you're all set. :D

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

I'm hoping so Quinn. :yes: The closest dealer to me is getting one in, in a few weeks and is supposed to call me to come take a look at and I'll take my trailer along to see if trading mine in is worth my while, provided that I do indeed like the 2+1. I'm just not a big fan of slants for big horses plus I love ramps. Really hard to find a big slant with a ramp.

OTTBJumpOff
Jun. 24, 2013, 11:09 AM
I'm just not a big fan of slants for big horses plus I love ramps. Really hard to find a big slant with a ramp.

Can't say I blame you! We have an OTTB on stall rest as I type.
This is what we'll eventually end up with, most likely: http://www.delratontrailers.com/horse-trailers-for-sale.html
Note the bulkhead doors on the back. NEVER haul your horses un wrapped/booted.


So, now that that has been said, I have a question. Our horse is terrified of 2 horse bumper pulls, but fine in a 4 horse head-to-head. What would you say a 2+1 is more like? I mean, of course we could haul in in the +1, but just for a reference.

FatCatFarm
Jun. 26, 2013, 10:20 AM
I actually did wind up going with a 3 horse slant. I ordered one with widened, longer stalls via Horse Pro Trailers in Cumming, GA, a Verylite, and am extremely pleased with the trailer and it's quality. I removed the rear tack so the trailer is very open and inviting and have had little trouble getting anyone on. No one has gotten any rubs.

After researching the matter I found that the 2 + 1 would result in unused space more often than not for my hauling needs.

That I did not like the idea of no support for the horse traveling in the box stall as in, a free body flung around due to a sudden stop or god forbid an impact.

That I agreed that a padded slanted wall/gate on either side of the horse gave them more support and something to lean on versus a chest bar they could possibly slide under.

Now I do agree that if you've got horses in all three stalls, the slants are not going to allow them get their heads down and really cough if they need to, but I do not do a great deal of long distance hauling and it was less of a concern. However, I've had quite a few horses shipped to me over long distance on slant load trailers and all have done fine and arrived fine. Also none were ever wrapped and I do not wrap my horses when traveling, but that's just my personal preference.

rocky213
Jun. 26, 2013, 10:48 AM
Congratuations FatCatFarm !! It sounds like you got a a Merhow Verylite Slant? I have a Verylite 2 horse slant with rear ramp, and Merhow was really good about customizing it for me. I had an extra 1 foot added to the width of the front stall and the angles changed so it was a longer stall. I don't have very big horses, so its not a major concern for me right now. But, I would like to be able trailer other peoples larger horses so had them make the trailer longer and wider.

I removed the rear tack and its a nice open box that everyone so far has just hopped right in, even on the maiden voyage when it smelled new !! I really like being able to walk on, turn around and walk off. No more backing off drama.

FatCatFarm
Jun. 26, 2013, 12:15 PM
Yes, I got a 3 horse Verylite slant. I looked and looked at trailers and the Merhow Verylite is very nice for the $$$. I had the saddle rack put into the dressing room and eliminated the space for it in the cargo area of the trailer so it is very open and inviting. I do also have a ramp. With the bigger tires, the ramp angle is a little steep but the rubber matting on it is very grippy and all of my horses have gotten used to it without problem. I do have big horses 16.3+ draft crosses who are WB type longer in the body and they fit on it comfortably and ride well on it. I have definitely noticed less scrabbling around than when I had a straight load. It hauls great!

Equibrit
Jun. 27, 2013, 08:11 PM
Check this site for Sundowner threads, you'll find interesting stuff, mostly about ramps and frames.

Angelico
Jun. 27, 2013, 09:12 PM
A 22 year old Ford F250. Gas. Very expensive. :)

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/Ballyduff/DSCN0541.jpg


Your truck will pull it just fine, I promise. I've seen those old 250's pull six horses with no problem :)