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Damrock Farm
Mar. 10, 2012, 06:40 PM
I should not buy a GMC Sierra. I am looking at buying a 2012 truck. Have compared Fords, Dodges, Toyotas and GMCs. I scratched the Toyotas off first because they don't offer a 3/4 ton model. The Dodges didn't impress me at all, so now it's between the Ford 250 and the GMC 2500. Trying to compare apples to apples with similar options, the GMC is WAAAAYY cheaper and they have 0% financing for 6 years plus $2000 cash back. The GMC trucks are made in Roanoke, Indiana, most of the Fords are built in Mexico (you can tell this by the VIN). That appeals to me, US company providing US jobs.

Give me the good, the bad and the ugly of the Sierra.

Mar. 10, 2012, 07:19 PM
DH bought a 2008 Sierra new, put 100K miles on it, bought a new 2011 last year to replace it. Sold the 2008 in four hours after advertised, to a guy who was happy to get it.

His models are always the work trucks (not much electronics on them) 1500 extended cabs, no frills models. About 1/3 of the miles put on are off road, some extreme.

Never a hitch ,hiccup, or problem. He is always trying to get me to trade in my 1995 Chevy Diesel on a Sierra, and I'm tempted, but nahhh, I need that 3/4 ton, and extra torque.

His truck is Niiiiccce to drive. I don't remember the MPG, but I know the 2008 got better mileage, but had less horsepower.

Our oldest son bought a Chevy Silverado Crew Cab last year, great truck also. I've borrowed it a few times to haul with, and it does well, even tho it is only a 1500 too.

Youngest son is still in Love with his 1996 Dodge Cummins tho! But it is a beast, and drives like one :yes:

Mar. 10, 2012, 07:21 PM
A friend is on his third one in twelve years, so he obviously likes them.
I have to say, each one had some "issues" and spent plenty of time in the shop, his las one he just got back this week, after two weeks in the shop at 30,000 mi and it is not the first time for this one either.

He makes fun of my Fords, but I have yet to have one in the shop and my old farm one is a 1990.;)

I do think all brands are about the same, any one may have problems, or not.
Get what you like best, don't get hung up on brands.:yes:

Damrock Farm
Mar. 10, 2012, 09:14 PM
Bluey, I love Fords. We have a 14 year old Ranger that still runs and looks great, we had an e-150 van for 15 years, we just retired a 94 Escort a couple years ago. The motor is in a newer body now and still going strong. It just bothers me that they are SO much more than the GMCs. We are talking close to $4000 difference for essentially the same truck, and that's before financing and rebates. That and the fact that they are made in Mexico vs the US and I'm thinking of switching. I couldn't care less about all the bells and whistles which Ford seems to push now. I want a truck, not a luxury car. ;)

Mar. 10, 2012, 09:32 PM
I would go for the GM over Ford any day. My 94 GM is still going strong and is going to be pressed into service shortly again. That said, the general beast of choice in this area is GM trucks, particularly in the oil patch, simply because you can get them with minimal features, and less glitz and glam than Ford or Dodge. The suspension is stiffer in the trucks labeled work and they ride like a lumber wagon, but it's a TRUCK, not a luxury car. There is also more variability in what you get, meaning you CAN order a long box on any cab configuration or an open deck etc, and the other two won't do it except special order (read drop another 10K for their inconvenience) as they really want to sell only crew or club cabs with short box with fancy cover.

Mar. 10, 2012, 09:56 PM
Have had a long, tried and true, succession of GMs over the years and would give my right arm to get my Sierra back! Had to sell the good ole' girl for a variety of reasons and miss her every, single, day! The only issues I had were related to her longevity: she put on a lot of miles and the salt that assaulted in the winter created some problems that were easy to deal with.

All in all, my Sierra was an awesome truck!

Mar. 10, 2012, 10:14 PM
I love my 3/4 ton Sierra! Only thing that's ever gone wrong was the speedometer quit working. It was an easy and relatively inexpensive fix.

I don't use mine as a daily driver, only to haul the horses, but I absolutely love it.

Mine has the 8.1L engine and has a massive tow package. It pulls my four horse steel gooseneck fully loaded without batting an eye.

Hampton Bay
Mar. 11, 2012, 12:05 AM
GM. My deceased 1985 Chevy Diesel Suburban was awesome. It was still in fantastic mechanical shape when I ran it into a school bus.

I replaced it with a Ford F-150. Now, my ex had a 2004 1/2 ton Chevy, so I'm familiar with 1/2 ton trucks and how they pull my trailer. Let's just say the Ford has been a disappointment. I can jump lightly on the hitch and the whole truck acts like a trampoline. Put a 1600lb flatbed trailer on it, and it sinks a foot behind, no joke. Without a WDH, the thing wouldn't be able to haul an inflatable raft. Ex's Chevy hauled the same 7k lb horse trailer like it was nothing, and the Chevy had a lower tow rating and smaller engine.

If the 3/4 tons are as comparatively wimpy as this 1/2 ton, that's rated to tow 9500lb, no way would I touch one.

Damrock Farm
Mar. 11, 2012, 09:07 AM
Who knows about repairs? Someone on another board told me that the parts for a 3/4 ton are approximately 3 times as much as a 1/2 ton. They suggested we could beef up the suspension on a 1/2 ton and save money in the long run. Any input there? I know it'll be under warranty for the first 3 years, but we intend to keep it as long as possible. The truck we have now (Ford) is 14 years old.

What about rust? I know that GMs have a reputation for rust-through issues. Our 14 year old Ford has literally NO rust except for the very bottom of the tailgate and that's only surface. The dealer we talked to yesterday does a dealer installed paint sealant on every car they sell at no charge and he says that helps tremendously. I'm thinking that and getting the bottom oiled regularly might help save it from out upstate NY winters. Thoughts?

Ridge Runner
Mar. 11, 2012, 10:00 AM
I have a 10 year old GMC Sierra 3/4 ton Duramax truck. I love this truck. I have done almost nothing to it until recently. I have replaced brade pads, shocks, and had to rebuild the front ball joints. All of that added up to a few months worth of a new truck payment and the truck runs like a dream.

My 3/4 ton pulls a 28 ft, 10,000 lb empty trailer. We did have to add some springs to the back end but that is all we did. It's rated to 15,500 lbs.

Not a spot of rust on it unless its in the bed where it got scratched. I live 30 miles from the ocean.

Mar. 11, 2012, 11:45 AM
After driving my F150 to go get a horse for several hundreds of miles one day, my friend's 250 one year old GMC again and still in the shop, he was talking about my pickup pulling as good, for the load, as his and at much better gas mileage and had not been in the shop, as all of hisGMC are regularly.

I asked our local mechanic, that works on all, which one was best and he said all were good, all could have problems, not one was any better or worse, just your luck if you had problems or not.;)

You can hear stories of many trucks, all brands and ages, that are wonderful or keep having problems.
When it comes to price, shop around, different dealers have specials in all brands, you can find the same truck at very different prices here or there.
My friend bought his GMC several thousand's cheaper five hours away from home.

Zu Zu
Mar. 11, 2012, 12:45 PM


Damrock Farm
Mar. 11, 2012, 01:42 PM
DH gets a discount with his job, basically it's the price any of the makers offer to employees, plus he still gets any incentives that are offered. It will be the same wherever we go because it's based on the actual invoice. That's the easy part.

I agree that luck does play a huge role in what you get. I think we've pretty much settled on the GM, just was wondering if there were lots of horror stories out there and from what I've seen on this and a couple other forums, that doesn't appear to be the case so we will go with the better price. :)

Mar. 11, 2012, 08:10 PM
I have had both - well sort of...

I bought a brand new 1999 F250 V10 and loved it for many years. It always did its job (almost). I just had the basic service stuff done - brakes etc... The only time I used my truck was in the snow, hauling horses, or home depot trips. Therefore, it sat around a ton. Sitting around caused a ton of rust on my truck. One time I was hauling horses and the brakelines blow because of rust. Scariest thing in my life, thank goodness for good trailer brakes - thats all I have to say. I did end up fixing the brakelines and selling it for next to nothing because the truck was basically a rust ball.

Now I have a 2004 Chevy Silverado Duramax. I absolutly love this truck. I will never go back to ford. It pulls sooooo much better, and still not much rust in 2012. I have never had to do anything more then brakes once and tires twice since I bought it. I can not say more wonderful things about this truck.

My horse trainer has a GMC 3500 Sierra Duramax - I also loved driving her truck, it is very similar to mine. She got it in 2005 and I don't belive she has had many problems with it but regular maintaince, but hers is an everyday driver, where my truck sit a ton.

Good luck with which ever you decide!

Mar. 11, 2012, 08:24 PM
While I wouldn't own a Chevy/GMC diesel truck, if I were looking at gas it would be my first choice.