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Blume Farm
Mar. 4, 2012, 09:34 PM
I am in the process of pricing a new trailer with basic LQs. I will only use the LQs about 6 times/ year at weekend shows and a few overnight damp trips. However, I will use the trailer almost weekly to haul to lessons and day shows.

Therefore, I really only want/ need basic LQs (insulated, bed, few cabinets, sink, fridge, TV, microwave). No matter where I go there will be toilets available, but possibly no shower. I was thinking of pricing out installation of a cowboy shower (set up in horse compartment of trailer). Anyone have one? Pluses and minuses?

I don't want full LQs as it will make the trailer too long and I use it a lot for just local hauling.

goodhors
Mar. 5, 2012, 04:24 AM
You might ask this question on the Endurance and Trail Ride forum. With their camping more than most, I bet their Cowboy showers get a good workout frequently.

Haven't used one myself, but have heard good stuff from those who do use them. I expect there are a couple "tricks" to getting the best from them, which you learn with time or someone gives you a tip.

Having one for the infrequent use you name, will probably work out fine.

cherham
Mar. 5, 2012, 07:48 AM
We purchased a 3 horse slant with full living quarters (including a flush toilet and shower) a few years ago. The living quarters are only 8 foot short wall in length so the trailer floor length is exactly the same as our old 4horse head to head trailer. I use it regularly as a shuttle trailer back and forth to the shows but when I stay overnight I REALLY like the option of a hot shower rather then a cold one (cowboy shower). Just a consideration for you to think about on a rainy cold damp day.....they are not really that much more money for the added benefit.

wildlifer
Mar. 5, 2012, 08:18 AM
You can always just get a camping shower for far cheaper -- leave the bag of water out in the sun and it will be warm, no cold showers necessary. :-)

katarine
Mar. 5, 2012, 09:11 AM
We have one in our LQ.

If it's cold outside when we get to camp, I shut the windows and vents in the horse compartment. I sweep the shavings out of the way and set one of the now emptied out big Rubbermaid tubs in that stall by the shower head. I hang up my little travel bag of shampoo, body wash, wash cloth. I also set out a little teak wood 'bath mat' for when I step out of the tub. I take a little bag back there with my clothes and a towel. I store dirty laundry in that first stall anyway so that's already there.

If I'm going to be in camp for a while I rig up a siphon hose from said tub and snake it under the LQ to drain the water off gradually to soak into the ground. Otherwise I just leave it be and dump it when I'm done.

The hot water heater in the trailer is 6 gallons of blazing hot water. The cowboy shower showerhead (which is on a hose, that you stuff back up into the wall when you're done with it) has an on/off switch so if you need to conserve water for the next person, you can easily do that- otherwise you have plenty of water. My LQ has a 30 gallon water tank in the boot box. When you get to camp you need to have water on board in case there's an issue, otherwise you pull out your hose that is used only for such purposes and tie into the water supply there at camp. Use a pressure reducer between the hose and the trailer since some of those places have mega water pressure.

Done. When we break camp I rinse that tub out and set it out to dry. By the time we're ready it's dry and ready to hold the grill, rope lights, the bath mat, lol, etc etc. I wipe and close up the shower (it opens up like a glove box, with a keyed lock), otherwise it's out of the way.

I really appreciate the water pressure and HOT water when I'm camping. I've done the solar shower thing and it's fine in a pinch- but I do love a real shower :)

I also take a little kitty litter porta potty b/c at 3AM, I'm not walking to the bath house ;)

No black water tanks, no grey water tanks, easy, and no downside. When we upgrade the trailer I want more living space, but I'm really fine with our redneck cowboy shower and potty set up. I know too many people who've torn up or cracked their waste tanks - nasty.

Heart's Journey
Mar. 5, 2012, 12:43 PM
Ditto on Katarine's post.

I have a 2H GN with a cowboy shower and love it. I do have propane that heats the water in the hot water heater (fridge & cooktop), I actually have to watch that the water isn't too hot as the propane works really well. I too stand in a large tub and then empty out afterwards. I recently did the Fla Cracker trail ride for a week and showered every night. I did bring some water to add to the tank as we were camping in cattle pastures, so no other option to get water for it. I like the roominess of it and just hang hay bags over the windows for privacy. I've never had anyone ride over and peek in as no one evens knows you're showering at the time. If I have electric, I run the AC if not, I have 2 fans to run to keep me cool when getting dressed. My generator won't run the AC, but it will run the fans.

I camped for 4 years with a friend that had electric hot water heater for her cowboy shower and that worked great as well.

My LQ also has a dinnette, cabinets, fridge, cooktop, microwave, sink, medicine cabinet, AC, pocket screen door - which makes it very comfy for the many 10 day trips I go on.

Ruth0552
Mar. 7, 2012, 05:59 AM
This thread is not nearly what I thought it was going to be.

ayrabz
Mar. 7, 2012, 06:08 AM
Hahahaha, Ruth! love it!

...in addition? to this, what about the propane type 'Ecco' L 5 for camp showers? Does anyone use that type, and if so? can you share 'how' you set it up inside the horse area? (I'm assuming? propane tank outside on ground, unit? outside and just water hose snaked in thru drop window or escape door?)

however...I realize I'd need a hose/water pressure hookup for this to even work, so those opportunities would be few and far between.

Gnalli
Mar. 7, 2012, 10:06 PM
You can always just get a camping shower for far cheaper -- leave the bag of water out in the sun and it will be warm, no cold showers necessary. :-)

Yep. Another way that it can be done is to go get a garden sprayer-1 to 3 gallons less than 20 (usually about 13) and set it out in the sun. This is not for leisurely showers, but it will get the job done and has a sprayer too.

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 7, 2013, 11:34 PM
my shower sounds just like katharines. My hoses are in a little glove box like compartment too. I stand in a little kiddie pool. I do have some curtains in the horse stall on little magnetic rods so no worries anyone seeing in. I too sweep out the back, then put a tarp down and use the whole area as a mud room. We change clothes back there, keep garbage in there etc. I have a 2 horse gn with a 6 ft short wall.

I have in t he LQ a table that can go down to be a bed, and a sink on the longer wall, and a fridge, microwave and closet on the short wall.

In the back horse stall have my shower and a flush-able porta potty.

I would like to find an easier way to clean the back out besides having to work at getting the poo out. i am wondering if it is possible to lay something down over the floor and under the shavings when the horses are back there and then pull it out when you get to where you are going.

My trailer is not much longer than my two horse bumperpull with dressing room..only like 3 feet longer and I have all this stuff!

If you are interested in seeing my trailer I did a video of it for HAWK trailers where I had the trailer made.

Go to this website
http://hawktrailers.com/testimonials.php
and click on where it says a happy customer shows off their gooseneck. There is a picture there of two horses framed (that is in my gooseneck) and click on play.

quarterhorse4me
Mar. 8, 2013, 08:00 AM
I am in the process of pricing a new trailer with basic LQs.

I don't want full LQs as it will make the trailer too long and I use it a lot for just local hauling.

There is currently a thread on Horse Trailer World about cowboy showers. There is some great info there.

I have basic LQ with no hot water. I use a Colemen portable water heater in the back of my trailer to shower. All it requires is a bucket of water and a shower attachment. I stand in a "portable pet tub" which I got off of Ebay and just dump when I am done.

My girlfriend has the Eccotemp which her husband sets up for her. A nicer shower but more of a PITA to set up and requires a larger propane tank. She won't do it if he isn't with her. Even my kids will use the Coleman on their own.

katarine
Mar. 8, 2013, 09:23 AM
This thread is over a year old folks

Ruth0552
Mar. 8, 2013, 09:34 AM
Yes. It is indeed a year old. And again, I clicked on it thinking, ooooo...

Only to be sorely disappointed.

Fancy That
Mar. 8, 2013, 11:06 AM
Lori - OMG, that video you did for Hawk was amazing and it really helped to see your set up. I love how you did everything - you really thought of everything you needed for camping. I also go horsecamping a few times a year - whether its for trail riding or events or clinics and I LOVE the cowboy shower and porta potty in the HORSE STALL AREA. I would never want a full LQ with all the fancy shower stall, toilets and the waste tanks and grey/black water tanks etc. I use my trailer for everyday stuff and just don't want a long behemoth thing that isn't handy to maneuver and use all the time.

Your set up is the best of both worlds. Love how you turn the horse stall area into a total mudroom with the dirty laundry hamper so you change out there and keep LQ area clean. You are sooo practical! I also love the fold out table outside - I bring one just like that and use, but having it attached is brillant. Also the magnetic curtain rod for the horse windows....brilliant.

Girl - you have TRICKED OUT YOUR TRAILER! Thanks for sharing!


my shower sounds just like katharines. My hoses are in a little glove box like compartment too. I stand in a little kiddie pool. I do have some curtains in the horse stall on little magnetic rods so no worries anyone seeing in. I too sweep out the back, then put a tarp down and use the whole area as a mud room. We change clothes back there, keep garbage in there etc. I have a 2 horse gn with a 6 ft short wall.

I have in t he LQ a table that can go down to be a bed, and a sink on the longer wall, and a fridge, microwave and closet on the short wall.

In the back horse stall have my shower and a flush-able porta potty.

I would like to find an easier way to clean the back out besides having to work at getting the poo out. i am wondering if it is possible to lay something down over the floor and under the shavings when the horses are back there and then pull it out when you get to where you are going.

My trailer is not much longer than my two horse bumperpull with dressing room..only like 3 feet longer and I have all this stuff!

If you are interested in seeing my trailer I did a video of it for HAWK trailers where I had the trailer made.

Go to this website
http://hawktrailers.com/testimonials.php
and click on where it says a happy customer shows off their gooseneck. There is a picture there of two horses framed (that is in my gooseneck) and click on play.

Bacchus
Mar. 8, 2013, 11:28 AM
Yes. It is indeed a year old. And again, I clicked on it thinking, ooooo...

Only to be sorely disappointed.

I didn't read it a year ago, so I'm happy to see it, especially since I'm picking up my trailer with cowboy shower tomorrow;) I did read the thread on horsetrailerworld last night.

Fancy That
Mar. 8, 2013, 11:59 AM
Me too! I'm glad this got brought back to life. I'm shopping for my dream trailer and really don't want a big LQ w/ the bathroom/shower inside...I love what Lori did w/ her Hawk and hearing how others use the Cowboy Shower, since that is what I'll be getting....


I didn't read it a year ago, so I'm happy to see it, especially since I'm picking up my trailer with cowboy shower tomorrow;) I did read the thread on horsetrailerworld last night.

katarine
Mar. 8, 2013, 12:11 PM
Oh it's totally fine that it's brought up, but I wish there was some 'old' tag so no one's kinda hoping to hear back from the OP and how her shopping went ;), that's all I meant in saying it was aged :D

Me, I went and bought a bigger LQ. With an indoor shower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31281399@N06/8129654090/) ;) and a potty. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31281399@N06/8129634213/)

Alagirl
Mar. 8, 2013, 01:11 PM
Yes. It is indeed a year old. And again, I clicked on it thinking, ooooo...

Only to be sorely disappointed.


sorry... no pictures of cowboys in the shower...

and seriously, Google disappointed on that one....

Heart's Journey
Mar. 8, 2013, 01:17 PM
Guess I should convince a coupla cowboys to try out my shower next trip and take photos....... :D

Alagirl
Mar. 8, 2013, 01:39 PM
Guess I should convince a coupla cowboys to try out my shower next trip and take photos....... :D

yes

Fancy That
Mar. 8, 2013, 01:55 PM
Katarine - so you ditched the cowboy shower and went full-on-fancy LQ!!! Nice!

I still think I want the "shorter trailer" (but wide - 8 feet wide and 7'6 to 8 ft tall) without the indoor shower/potty :)

Your new one is lovely though!!!!!

katarine
Mar. 8, 2013, 02:23 PM
It's bigger than I wanted but not too big. We looked at an 8' SW but we really wanted a sofa. it's 8' wide, 7' 6" tall. It's a 3H slant with a 10' LQ. I was used to the 4' short wall after pulling it from 2004-2012, and it was looking and feeling pretty beat up. And it had gotten old to have so little room for two people...so 6 more feet was not really a big deal to me. No way in HADES I'd go any bigger. I'm leery about tearing up those tanks, but so far- so far.....so good.

We camp a fair amount. I show only a little bit. For camping, it's the bombdiggetty :)

Blume Farm
Mar. 8, 2013, 07:00 PM
Funny, I was the original poster! I haven't gotten a new trailer yet as I would use it mostly at 4-5 shows/ year, maybe camping once a year. When I calculated how much it would cost me to upgrade I can pay for cheap hotel rooms for years to come:) And not have to clean out a grey tank.

The only down side is not being able to "live" right next to the horses at shows. Right now I just couldn't financially justify...but I just bought a lottery ticket!

cutter99
Mar. 8, 2013, 07:32 PM
It's not the grey tank you have to worry about- it's the black one!!!:lol:

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 8, 2013, 08:02 PM
Lori - OMG, that video you did for Hawk was amazing and it really helped to see your set up. I love how you did everything - you really thought of everything you needed for camping. I also go horsecamping a few times a year - whether its for trail riding or events or clinics and I LOVE the cowboy shower and porta potty in the HORSE STALL AREA. I would never want a full LQ with all the fancy shower stall, toilets and the waste tanks and grey/black water tanks etc. I use my trailer for everyday stuff and just don't want a long behemoth thing that isn't handy to maneuver and use all the time.

Your set up is the best of both worlds. Love how you turn the horse stall area into a total mudroom with the dirty laundry hamper so you change out there and keep LQ area clean. You are sooo practical! I also love the fold out table outside - I bring one just like that and use, but having it attached is brillant. Also the magnetic curtain rod for the horse windows....brilliant.

Girl - you have TRICKED OUT YOUR TRAILER! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the nice email.

As to the thread on the other page..I started that one! lol.. I was trying to find out if anyone knew of a slant load shower pan.

I'm sorry too if we got this going a year late. I read the post as 3/5/12 not 3/5/13...but like others said, its okay because someone is always looking for a new trailer. I am like you. I didn't want a huge trailer to pull, and I don't trust myself trying to drive a longer trailer either. Sure I get jealous when I step inside the full LQ trailers, but I sure wouldn't want to drive them. This is an easy rig to pull for short or long hauls.

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 8, 2013, 08:13 PM
There is currently a thread on Horse Trailer World about cowboy showers. There is some great info there.

I have basic LQ with no hot water. I use a Colemen portable water heater in the back of my trailer to shower. All it requires is a bucket of water and a shower attachment. I stand in a "portable pet tub" which I got off of Ebay and just dump when I am done.

.

That was my post on horse trailer world I bet. You sent a link to your dog tub. I love the thought of that being collapsible. People on this thread may like to see that too.

Bells
Mar. 8, 2013, 09:00 PM
No - I'm the dog wash post on Horsetrailerworld :) I think the 1st time I posted about it was 3 years ago on there.

quarterhorse4me
Mar. 8, 2013, 09:47 PM
That was my post on horse trailer world I bet. You sent a link to your dog tub. I love the thought of that being collapsible. People on this thread may like to see that too.

Not me that posted the link but I love my collapsable tub. It fits right in the closet of my trailer. Thanks Bells for the great idea!

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 8, 2013, 10:17 PM
No - I'm the dog wash post on Horsetrailerworld :) I think the 1st time I posted about it was 3 years ago on there.

Seriously? I thought you JUST posted it for me! lol My name on Horse trailer world is the same as here..Lori & Snickers. I just saw it and thought you had JUST sent it to me. (I am new to forums obviously)

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 8, 2013, 10:22 PM
Ha Ha. this is too funny. So there are two of you that have the dog tub. You can see how I got confused, but what a coincidence that you found this thread too Bells!

rocky213
Mar. 9, 2013, 10:29 AM
you guys should check out the work of these guys. It looks like he has some sort of shower pan custom made for the cowboy showers he puts in. Its too bad they are not doing anymore horse trailers. I wonder how much it cost to have him trim out a trailer.

http://www.trimboys.com/pictures.htm

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 9, 2013, 10:39 AM
you guys should check out the work of these guys. It looks like he has some sort of shower pan custom made for the cowboy showers he puts in. Its too bad they are not doing anymore horse trailers. I wonder how much it cost to have im trim out a trailer.

http://www.trimboys.com/pictures.htm

The "thomkins" trailer shows a shower pan. I wonder how he made it. These guys do beautiful work.

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 9, 2013, 10:45 AM
Ah. Further reading on another trailer they did it says they use marine plywood and rubber truck bed liner material. Thank you for showing me this site. Now I have something to take to my conversion guys! The "sliger" trailer is the one that's says what they made it out of if anyone else is interested.

Lori&Snickers
Mar. 9, 2013, 11:04 AM
Thank you Rocky!

Bells
Mar. 9, 2013, 08:24 PM
I've never seen the trim boys site - wow nice stuff! Disappointed to see that they are out of the business :(

quarterhorse4me
Mar. 10, 2013, 09:59 AM
I've never seen the trim boys site - wow nice stuff! Disappointed to see that they are out of the business :(

Great site! I am committed to remodeling this summer when trail ride season it up. It will help me give my guy an illustration of some of the changes I want to make.

Old or not, I am glad it got resurrected :D

Fancy That
Mar. 10, 2013, 10:57 AM
I agree - thanks for sharing the Trim Boys website. I love all the examples of how to trick out your dressing room!!!

I'm shopping for my dream trailer and all of these photos and "before/after" are inspiring.

Bacchus
Mar. 10, 2013, 04:17 PM
I picked up my trailer yesterday. Turns out it has a drain in the floor for the cowboy shower! It's above the floor, so I might trim it down to floor level, although I don't think it would affect the horses. Haven't decided what I'll use as a pan, but I might put some of those clear removable wall hooks on the ceiling (if they stick to metal) and hang a shower curtain when I'm set up to camp -- so the curtain goes inside the "pan" or dog bath, or whatever I use. I'm going to get a Thetford porta potty and set up with the tarp, etc. Great ideas! I'll let you know if it works. I'm so psyched to have a trailer with weekend living quarters!