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Jan. 1, 2012, 11:56 PM
I've been researching Jumper Derbys and have had a hard time coming up with the rules and procedures. I found the GVRDC website and loved what was explained there but I need more.
How many fences? Is it timed? When does the timer start and when does it stop? How many refusals? Do your stadium fences typically go first, then to XC or are the stadium fences mixed with the xc? How large of a space are you using?
I've seen many variations. One method was to have 16 fences, clear round of 16 goes on to a timed round of 8. Another method was 16 fences, first 8 are accuracy, last 8 are time and accuracy. I saw one that had nearly 22 mostly stadium type fences in a relatively small arena.
Thanks in advance!
Jan. 2, 2012, 03:59 AM
It's AWESOME! There are two a year - the Firecracker in summer and the Pumpkin in fall. I have only been once thus far, so I'm hoping others will chime in with more info than I can provide. I honestly cannot remember how many fences there were - I did intro first and then BN "A" division, which was a bit more user friendly than BN "B". The number of fences was different for different divisions, but I can't recall the specific number. I just remember it being my horse's second outing and being THRILLED at getting over a downbank, when we had never done one before, and just having an awesome time.
XC fences are mixed in with stadium fences pretty well in a great "arena". It's a decently large space (can someone give dimensions? I've set the course but don't know how big it is and don't want to estimate and embarrass myself) and the set up is very cool - there is really only one side for spectators, which keeps distractions/spooks to a minimum and the "arena", when you go across the "bridge", bank, or water crossing, is separated from the "main arena" and that makes it feel more XC-like to me.
XC fences include logs, a small bank, a water crossing, and a ditch.. possibly others I am forgetting. I believe there is also a table for P, maybe T. I'm sure if you have seen GVRDC's website, you've seen some of the fences.
Yes, it is timed, there is a start line bisecting the "main arena". My guess is someone with a stopwatch begins the time when the horse crosses the start line and when they cross the finish line. Three refusals in my division at least. I got counted for a stop at a log, and was given two at the downbank.. don't agree with that as he stopped, balked, and went right down, but we were there to have fun and for the experience, and that's what we got. :)
It's a GREAT time and the spirit award always gets an amusing turnout. I highly recommend it and would love to see you there!
Jan. 2, 2012, 10:55 AM
To describe it in one word =fun! Ake987 summed it up! It is a fairly large area with some rolling terrain when you cross over to the other side. I have pictures of various fences And might have the entire area in a picture. Its timed and are allowed 3 refusals. Various divisions. If you have the opportunity to ride in one do it! Lots of fun!
The Pumpkin Derby is a blast as you Can decorate your horse and self.
Jan. 2, 2012, 01:07 PM
There were two derby days held last year in Minnesota.
You can check out the rules for each of them online.
One was at Steepleview Farm (in Minnesota) and the
derby rules are under their "schooling" listing on their website. The other was hosted by the Lead Hound Pony Club (of Minnesota) and their rules and description are on the club's website under "Derby Day". There are also several youtube videos of various people riding in those derbies which might give you ideas of what they offered and how it went.
Thank you for asking this question, I am also planning to host a derby this summer and have had the same questions about how to proceed. More input from folks about what they enjoyed (or didn't) would be welcome.
Jan. 2, 2012, 02:21 PM
I don't think I have much too add- so I'll share some pictures of the jumps :D
Intro - intro only stayed in the "main arena" - no ditch, bank, or water
rails (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/26670_704752293752_16105534_39241810_6374177_n.jpg )
baby log pile (http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/26670_704752298742_16105534_39241811_824314_n.jpg)
more rails (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/26670_704752328682_16105534_39241817_936704_n.jpg)
this one is BN (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/60197_729470563142_16105534_40051341_5746883_n.jpg )from our Pumpkin Derby - you can see the small banks in the background, BNA had a bank down and no water, BNB had a water and a bank up - no ditches
Novice - decent ditch, small banks, water crossing
into water crossing (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263793_916182705512_16105534_41902199_3498519_n.jp g)
brush box oxer (http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261444_916182301322_16105534_41902193_7259382_n.jp g)
rocks and rails (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/269534_916182465992_16105534_41902197_4635404_n.jp g)
oxer - you can see a pheasant feeder in the background too (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/268413_916183459002_16105534_41902204_996133_n.jpg )
barn - about three strides after the ditch (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264291_916183703512_16105534_41902206_7794196_n.jp g)
coop oxer (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/260006_916183838242_16105534_41902207_5289739_n.jp g)
my friend going down the bank (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/60197_729470588092_16105534_40051346_5900933_n.jpg )
log downhill (http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/34408_729470657952_16105534_40051347_2704702_n.jpg ) - this one hasn't come back they had a lot of problems with it that year
Training (my friend riding) - had both real and fake liverpools, ditch, banks.
fake liverpool (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/34408_729470677912_16105534_40051351_3651204_n.jpg )
they moved the same log for novice to go uphill instead of down (http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/34408_729470687892_16105534_40051353_2206156_n.jpg )
(no picture of the 'real' liverpool, oh well!)
not sure which division this one is (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/60197_729470583102_16105534_40051345_5584019_n.jpg )- but you can see some of the other fences in the background
Jan. 2, 2012, 02:38 PM
Just do it...it's a great Derby with a mix of fences and friendly faces. Lots of space for warm ups and getting the horse settled. Not crowded at all and I like that for the newbies.
Jan. 3, 2012, 09:15 AM
Thanks for all the input! This will help!
Is it only one round or is it only based on time?
Wishnwell - I live in Florida. I want to HOST a derby, not ride in it. =)
Jan. 3, 2012, 11:25 AM
It used to be run like Jumpers where the clean rounds did a speed round after all the entrants went to determine the winner, but now I think you only get one crack with the fastest, cleanest round wins.
Just make sure your ditches aren't full of water with a dead rat floating around in it ;)
Jan. 3, 2012, 03:26 PM
1. The courses are a combination of cross country and stadium mixed together. We have run Intro thru Prelim, courses from 450 meters to 1050 meters, optimum time half way between stadium and cross country. Each course is competely different.
2. We use stadium rules for faults. We have run with a second shorter course (4-5 fences) as a jump off for those who have gone double clear on the first round, we are now trying closest to the optimum time wins. We have enough entries that we run from 8:00AM to 4:00PM+ and are trying to speed things up.
3. We accept post entries, but hope the majority are pre entered so we can give everyone a better idea as to when each class will run.
4. The start and finish lines are close together so a timer can keep a stop watch on each rider.
If you have any other questions feel free to PM me if you would like.