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mvp
Oct. 17, 2011, 11:15 AM
I want a big ol' bucket of an equitation saddle. The kind that has one and only one place for you to sit.... that lines up heel, hip and ear for you.

Those are out of style now. Why? Am I so wrong to want that? Am I the only one such that I could never sell it?

But mainly, is it so wrong to want one of these padded buckets?

Luckydonkey
Oct. 17, 2011, 11:50 AM
Nope- I LOVE them! The circle y's from the mid 80's to the mid 90's...Richard Shrake edition is a wonderful thing! These are built to last and they fit my draft horses!!!!!!!!!!!

bludejavu
Oct. 17, 2011, 12:15 PM
I have a Circle Y equitation show saddle that is exactly like you're talking about. It is approx. 25 years old and I sit in it like I was glued to it. I could never part with it but I have seen quite a few similar to it come up on ebay. Keep checking and you'll probably find something there.

xQHDQ
Oct. 17, 2011, 12:22 PM
Blue Ribbon - they are made for horsemanship/eq. Loved loved loved it.

I bought one used, rode in it exclusively for 5 years (every day plus shows) and sold it for the same price I bought it for.

mvp
Oct. 17, 2011, 12:25 PM
Yeah, I have a MacPherson that I think is a perfectly legitimate answer to a dressage saddle. Horses think so, too.

Recently I sat in a Broken Horn that was crazy deep. I mean, the front part of the seat (still seat, before the swells) were, well, bulbously swollen. It was so extreme that I assume anyone would either love it or hate it.

I'm worried that I don't know enough about Western World to hate what I should.

OveroHunter
Oct. 17, 2011, 12:29 PM
I have a more ranch style saddle with a high cantle and pommel and there is only one place to sit - right smack dab in the center where you want to be. Super comfy!

Plus, the padding on a western saddle doesn't matter at all - it is how it is shaped. I have a hard seat, but it is shaped so nicely that everyone says it is the most comfortable saddle.

netg
Oct. 17, 2011, 12:33 PM
Nope- I LOVE them! The circle y's from the mid 80's to the mid 90's...Richard Shrake edition is a wonderful thing! These are built to last and they fit my draft horses!!!!!!!!!!!

I tend to think of those or ones from the 70s even.

I can't imagine getting one used, though - my first instructor had one from when she showed as a teenager, and it fit her perfectly - but was horrendous for anyone not her exact shape!

I think they're probably not in style in part because you can't have your trainer ride in your saddle most of the time with one...

They also really went out of style around the time the postage stamp close contacts were in style - and as a then-kid who did all around with my QH, that would have been a hard feeling to adjust to, going from moving everywhere if not careful to stuck in place.

Go Fish
Oct. 17, 2011, 02:44 PM
I still have my old Victor and Jedlicka saddles from the late 60's/early 70s. They are not for sale at any price! I've turned down big bucks for the Victor - 4 times what my Dad paid for it in 1969. Boy, they don't make saddles like that anymore.

mvp
Oct. 17, 2011, 04:11 PM
Can you post in the ones with the honkin' front of the seat?

Without the ability to put this on an actual horse, how do you tell if the deepest part of the bucket lines up well with the stirrups.... for you?

These sound persnickety.

Coreene
Oct. 17, 2011, 05:47 PM
When I went searching for a western saddle for Oliver, I had friends in hysterics when I said I wanted dark oil, heavily tooled with silver and - hold on - buck stitching

I could either find everything I wanted in a 15" seat, which would just never fit my fat ass, or in my size but with semi bars.

All were vintage Circle Ys.

In the end I went with a pimped out Crates show saddle.

5
Oct. 17, 2011, 06:59 PM
The Broken Horn Saddlery in Baldwin Park CA. will make you whatever you want.
Quality is not cheap, Their saddles will last a lifetime and their prices reflect it.
You pay for what you get.

Bluey
Oct. 17, 2011, 07:16 PM
Ryons Amy Gamblin, the original cutting saddles, were made well padded in front up to the swells.

We still use two of those, made in the early 70's.
They also seemed to fit most horses except the super skinny ones.

mvp
Oct. 17, 2011, 08:52 PM
When I went searching for a western saddle for Oliver, I had friends in hysterics when I said I wanteed dark oil, heavily tooled with silver and - hold on - buckstitching

Yes, yes, and yes-- even the buckstitching. If I had more sense and/or youth, I'd be embarrassed.


The Broken Horn Saddlery in Baldwin Park CA. will make you whatever you want.
Quality is not cheap, Their saddles will last a lifetime and their prices reflect it.
You pay for what you get.

Yup, hence the old skool preferences. I *want* my western saddles to be used. Until I know what I'm doing, it's the safer way to go.


Ryons Amy Gamblin, the original cutting saddles, were made well padded in front up to the swells.

We still use two of those, made in the early 70's.
They also seemed to fit most horses except the super skinny ones.

But the built up seat has nothing to do with the tree underneath, right? I'm not getting a tree with more wither room or a narrower waist just because the top of the saddle looks that way, right? Or am I wrong and these buckets fit some kinds of backs better than others?

acoustic
Oct. 17, 2011, 10:12 PM
A lot of the "rancher" type saddles have this deep seat. SOO much more comfortable than those flat things (although husband likes the flat ones. To each their own. Maybe it has to do with anatomical differences :D).

I find english saddles more comfortable than western for the most part, but I think that deep deat that the older saddles and rancher saddles give me a similar feeling to the shape of an english seat. I like it.

MunchkinsMom
Oct. 18, 2011, 01:49 AM
I love my Billy Cook Saddles. I have a reiner and a training saddle.

This one designed for trails looks like something along the lines of what you have in mind, if it is for trail riding that is:

http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/saddle-trail.html

Look for this one when you click on the link above:

15" 15.5" 16" 17" Billy Cooks Saddle for the Trails 10-1777

Some interesting older Circle Y trail saddles (used):

http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/used-trail-saddles.html

mvp
May. 6, 2012, 04:57 PM
Yeah, I have a MacPherson that I think is a perfectly legitimate answer to a dressage saddle. Horses think so, too.

Recently I sat in a Broken Horn that was crazy deep. I mean, the front part of the seat (still seat, before the swells) were, well, bulbously swollen. It was so extreme that I assume anyone would either love it or hate it.

I'm worried that I don't know enough about Western World to hate what I should.

Update in honor of the new Western Forum

I said Screw It and bought the Broken Horn for $650. Now I just need to get a chance to ride in it.

wylde sage
May. 8, 2012, 10:11 AM
Love them, wish I could find me one I could afford!