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altjaeger
Oct. 3, 2011, 12:46 AM
from regular h/j tall boots? I'm looking for an inexpensive pair of men's dress boots with zip, in size 11 and can't seem to find any out there, but on ebay found these:

Hispar Men's Dress Dressage Boots (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hispar-ST-Men-zip-Dress-dressage-show-jumping-Ride-BOOT-/280746190987?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415dc6e88b)

They seem like what I had in mind except for the dressage part.

Xpression
Oct. 3, 2011, 01:59 AM
Dressage boots tend to be much stiffer, because of our longer leg position. Different people life different stiffnesses though, and softer boots are easier to break in. Some say that the stiffer dressage boots keep the legs quieter and make them look longer, but it's a debatable topic.

So if you like those boots, I would get them... THEY ARE GORGEOUS.

MysticOakRanch
Oct. 3, 2011, 09:18 AM
Several years ago, I bought a pair of Hispar boots - they were awful. Poor quality, the zipper only went part way down the leg, the leather looked like something bought in bulk from India and felt like plastic, and they didn't measure as Hispar represented. They would take returns or exchanges, but only if I paid shipping - so basically, shipping paid by me both directions. I would lookfor a different brand - there are plenty of other inexpensive boots out there. They are on my "don't waste your money" list.

mildot
Oct. 3, 2011, 09:50 AM
the leather looked like something bought in bulk from India and felt like plastic

Being that the boots are made in Pakistan, you are probably right about the leather's origins.

kris0227
Oct. 3, 2011, 10:48 AM
Oddly enough... I have a pair of the Women's Hispar Dressage Boots, and I love them. The leather is WAY nicer than the Devonnaire's I have. It's much softer and more pliable. And the zipper works just fine. My only complaint is that the zipper stops about 1-1.5 inches from the sole and it's a tight fit to get my feet in/out of the boots, but no worse than pull ons.

altjaeger
Oct. 3, 2011, 11:28 AM
I've heard they improved their quality, lately, but I think I'll pass on them. I couldn't be sure I wouldn't get old stock.

TheHorseProblem
Oct. 3, 2011, 12:38 PM
These are field boots with no zip, but they will never die on you.

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/clo/2610867158.html

A lot of CL sellers take PayPal and ship nowadays.

Equibrit
Oct. 3, 2011, 12:51 PM
Hispar are not good quality. Dressage boots are always taller on the lateral side of the leg, so you could not put a cuff on them if you should need to.

altjaeger
Oct. 3, 2011, 01:32 PM
TheHorseProblem - field boots are easy to come by but I need dress with zips in the $200 - $400 range. Mountain Horse makes some but according to the Dover people they are redoing their line and aren't shipping. I can't find anyone with size 11 in stock.

Equibrit
Oct. 3, 2011, 01:44 PM
Check here; http://www.foxhuntingshop.com/catalog/Dress_Boots.html

Or here; http://www.allamericanboot.com/riding_boots.html

altjaeger
Oct. 3, 2011, 01:50 PM
I already did. Note those say "ladies". But I'll email them to make sure. Thanks.

TheHorseProblem
Oct. 3, 2011, 02:00 PM
TheHorseProblem - field boots are easy to come by but I need dress with zips in the $200 - $400 range. Mountain Horse makes some but according to the Dover people they are redoing their line and aren't shipping. I can't find anyone with size 11 in stock.

Too bad you need zippers! These are on eBay for $150.

http://tinyurl.com/3bc39t4

Also, these people are in Canada. Scroll down to the Equi-Comfort dress boots

http://www.sandridge.ca/Riding_Boots.asp#KONIG%20DRESS

They are in Canada, so the US dollar price is slightly lower. They take orders over the phone.

Equibrit
Oct. 3, 2011, 04:55 PM
How 'bout these; http://www.equestriancollections.com/product.asp?groupcode=JP80320

altjaeger
Oct. 3, 2011, 05:09 PM
Equibrit, those sounded good but they jump from 10.5 to 11.5.

TheHorseProblem -- I'm checking with Sandbridge now.

TheHorseProblem
Oct. 3, 2011, 10:21 PM
Equibrit, those sounded good but they jump from 10.5 to 11.5.

TheHorseProblem -- I'm checking with Sandbridge now.

Keep us updated because if the pair I found on eBay doesn't come through, I'm interested in their Ariat Heritage no zip field boots.

Equibrit
Oct. 3, 2011, 10:45 PM
Equibrit, those sounded good but they jump from 10.5 to 11.5.

TheHorseProblem -- I'm checking with Sandbridge now.

They have dealers all over who may have the perfect size.
Like this; http://www.crazyhorsetack.com/badrbomeshbo.html
How come you can't work this out for yourself ?

ToN Farm
Oct. 3, 2011, 11:58 PM
I'm curious. Why does a hunter/jumper male want other than field boots? Is it for an Equitation class?

My suggestion is to find a pair of boots you like and then have zippers installed. It will cost you about $125 for the zippers.

mildot
Oct. 4, 2011, 07:00 AM
I'm curious. Why does a hunter/jumper male want other than field boots?
IIRC, altjaeger fox hunts, and field boots are not proper during the formal season.

altjaeger
Oct. 4, 2011, 08:37 AM
Equibrit - I can work this out by myself. I started this thread asking about what makes a dressage boot different from a h/j boot, and then people started pointing out places I could find what I wanted. I'm only being polite by replying to them.

mildot
Oct. 4, 2011, 08:56 AM
This is my understanding as far as the differences compared to field boots (what H/J use the most):

1. stiffer shaft
2. slightly taller outer side of shaft
3. no laces
4. no toe cap
5. always black

I think they are basically a slightly specialized dress boot.

Gloria
Oct. 4, 2011, 11:07 AM
By the way, "dress" boots are different from "dressage" boots. Both look similiar but dressage boots are much stiffer than dress boots. For fox hunt, what you want is dress boot, not dressage boots, and unless you "really" need it, you are probably better off go without zipper. The last thing you want is to have that darn zipper fail on you when you are crossing country...

TheHorseProblem
Oct. 4, 2011, 11:24 AM
How come you can't work this out for yourself ?

I do searches for boots all the time, depending on whether I have decided I "need" brown field boots, no zip decaf double shot boots, or whatever. It amuses me, what can I say.:)

IME, there are many sources for boots that for one reason or another never come up in searches. There are some Argentine companies that I have read about on here that make reasonably priced and beautiful custom boots, but they don't come up in a search. Same with Kroop and Sons, which I just read about on another thread.

If they use Flash for their website, maybe Google doesn't pick up the text. Anyway, that's why I think for boot or saddle searches, COTHers really can help a great deal.:)

mildot
Oct. 4, 2011, 03:02 PM
There are some Argentine companies that I have read about on here that make reasonably priced and beautiful custom boots, but they don't come up in a search.
You ain't kidding.

I turned up a fantastic pair of brown zipperless field boots made in Argentina by Lopez-Taibo on ebay for $125.

They are in mint condition and still had the original price tag of $728. They are easily the equal of anything made by Dehner or Vogel.

mildot
Oct. 4, 2011, 03:04 PM
unless you "really" need it, you are probably better off go without zipper. The last thing you want is to have that darn zipper fail on you when you are crossing country...

I agree on the zipper. Even with my 16.5" calves I can get zipperless boots to fit well and there is one less failure and leak point on them.

TheHorseProblem
Oct. 4, 2011, 03:14 PM
http://www.lacasadelasbotas.com.ar/index.php

http://www.botaslamundial.com/equitacioni.htm


These never come up in searches.

mildot
Oct. 4, 2011, 03:32 PM
http://www.lopeztaibo.net/