SIMBA[Reggie] now has a home at, "hope4horses" in Pt.St.LucieFL.Pics.on page 9

[fernie fox]

We have found a rescue to take him.

All I know is he has a H tattoo,I think that would make him 25.

He is very,very thin,and needs a home desperately.

I think he is in O'steen FL.

He is obviously FRee to good home.

Will post more details when I find out more.

E-mail me at hossjock@yahoo.com

It is a lovely day today.surely someone could go check him out,and take him a carrot.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

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[fernie fox]

We have found a rescue to take him.

All I know is he has a H tattoo,I think that would make him 25.

He is very,very thin,and needs a home desperately.

I think he is in O'steen FL.

He is obviously FRee to good home.

Will post more details when I find out more.

E-mail me at hossjock@yahoo.com

It is a lovely day today.surely someone could go check him out,and take him a carrot.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

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[Living My Dream]

Fernie, do you have any other info on him?

Living situation?
Major injuries?
Rideable (even lightly)?
Special diet? (obviously now he does)
Temperament?
Discipline previously trained for (aside from racing)? i.e. hunter/jumper

When will you be evaluating & taking pics?
Need $$ for expenses?

[Whiskey Lullaby]

Send me a pic, I will try to convince one of my equine connections who is a vet, but I doubt she will be able to take him soon.

Speak kindly to your little horse,
And soothe him when he wheezes,
Or he may turn his back on you,
And kick you where he pleases.


Member of the Teen Clique!

[fernie fox]

I have the phone # of the owner,I spoke to her this afternoon[Fri],she just wants him gone,says he is in good health but very thin,someone else told me they were riding him.

I will give her phone # to anyone that e-mails me.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

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[fernie fox]

LMD.Unfortunately he is 3 to 4 hrs south of me.

I really hope someone closer could go to look at him.

As I said,I have her phone # just e-mail me at.

hossjock@yahoo.com.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[redopp]

here's a bump, fernie -- i hope someone can help out. from so far away the best i can do is offer to send some $$ to move/feed/house him.

good luck.

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[EponaRoan]

Post him on ROAN, Fernie. And Equine Rescue News also.

http://www.quarterpole.com/ROAN
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roan/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EqResqNews/

It's really hard to find good homes for the older ones. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Pat
http://www.quarterpole.com

[BeastieSlave]

Bump...
Any luck Fernie?

[Alagirl]

BUMP

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[Alagirl]

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[Jetson&Bear]

Fernie:

I just read an AP wire story in local section of the Tallahassee paper about a place called Mill Creek Farm, or the Retirement Home for Horses. There's no contact info in the article, but the owners are named Peter and Mary Gregory and they are in Alachua. It says that they take in rescues, retired police horses, etc. They are probably listed in information and might be worth a phone call, although I have no idea if they could come to get the horse.

[fernie fox]

Yes I know them,they have a long waiting list.



And I have been told a $150 a month per horse min.charge.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[fernie fox]

Well,that was a bad idea.

I knew before I called that it was a no go,because I have heard so many stories about them "not accepting" horses locally.

They only take animals from police or humane society orgs.ect.

Was basically told to keep them myself.

Thanks a lot fellow countryman.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[FlightCheck]

I am THREE MILES from Osteen.

Please, please email me at fcfinc@bellsouth.net as I know someone locally who would probably take him, and I can give a temp home if necessary.

[fernie fox]

Sent name and phone # to you Flightcheck.

Thank you.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Living My Dream]

Ohhhhh Goody! FlightCheck, please give us a full report ASAP

This looks promising! The old guy might have a good and loving home soon. Yippee http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If FlightCheck needs $$ for feed or expenses, you'll please let us know, ok?

[redopp]

FlightCheck that would be wonderful -- I sure hope it works out.

Meanwhile, I had cross-posted to the ex-racers board and got these contacts (which I hope we don't need!):

H.O.P.E.
256 S.W. Statler Avenue
Port St. Lucie, Florida 34984
(772)785.5309
sicilianqt@adelphia.net or
hope4horses@hotmail.com

Equine Rescue and Adoption Foundation, Inc.
10152 W. Indiantown Road, Suite 136, Jupiter, FL 33478
(561) 627-1198

HorseAid Florida (FL)
P.O Box 5941
Titusville, FL 32783-5941 (This one is pretty close)
Phone: 321-264-9478
E-mail: HorseAidFL@aol.com

Sanctuary Farms
c/o Dianne Cohoon
14290 Broken Wing Lane
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida 33418

(561) 622-6237
RonCohoon@msn.com

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Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[FlightCheck]

Fernie, please EMAIL ME AGAIN

I tried the px and name you gave me....the person said I had the wrong number (I tried 2x) and my email will NOT let me reply to you!

I don't know anyone in the area by that name, although there is someone in the area with a first name of "Jeanette" same last name....

Email me!!!Please. I can go today or tomorrow......

[fernie fox]

Sent you an e-mail,I just called her on the # I gave you ,she answered right away.

I think that is a cell#.

Anyways I gave you a new # she says she will be there at least 3 hrs.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[fernie fox]

Did you manage to contact her Flightcheck?.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Duramax]

bump

[Living My Dream]

? ?

*praying that FlightCheck is in process of loading him on the trailer at this very moment

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Edited for scrivener's error http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

[fernie fox]

Me too,LMD.

I spoke to the owner yesterday,and he was still there.

FC.was having aproblem with the phone# so I gave her another one.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[feder]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fernie fox:
Well,that was a bad idea.

I knew before I called that it was a no go,because I have heard so many stories about them "not accepting" horses locally.

They only take animals from police or humane society orgs.ect.

Was basically told to keep them myself.

Thanks a lot fellow countryman.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

fernie fox-
please do not knock this organization. I have spent many days at their place. One, it is a great facility but they only have limited room and resources just like every other org. I will say the thing I like the most about their place is that they are not over crowded. The horses live in lush green pastures in small herds. Two, the couple that runs it is so nice. I used to take city kids from Orlando to visit this farm and they spent a lot of time talking to the kids and educated them on horses and animal abuse. Every horse there is very loved and I am sure they feel bad that they can not help more horses. Purhaps you talked to a newer volunteer or someone having a bad day?

[fernie fox]

Sorry Feder,"I" was the one having a bad day.

I spoke to the owner,a fellow Brit.

His attitude was jaded.And yes I am fully aware of what a great place they run.

IT is my own fault,I should not pick up these poor animals if I cant afford to keep them.Which is why I normally try to get them well advertized to knowledgable homes,just pass the word around.

I just could not walk away from "the Old Ladies" I picked up recently.Thanks to so many on COTH.they are doing well.

But I just cant keep them.We are trying to find somewhere for them to go,but the process is slow.

They get there final shots next week.

After that I will transport them over to "Longstreets"house[a COTHer].She has a lot of pasture and a great place for them to be.

Hopefully they will be able to stay there until we find a permanent situation for them.

But I am so fed up with people trying to sell these poor half starved,old TBs as quiet riding horses,kid safe,barrel racers, ect.ect.

We have soo many rescues here that resell these type of horses,it makes me shudder.


I swear,if ever I win the lotto,I would buy a place suitable for these old Tbs.to live for a few months and then,quietly put them to sleep.Before there life becomes painful.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Shameless Alter]

Bump.

Need any $$s for him?

[FlightCheck]

Some progress.

FINALLY spoke with the owner AND her sister-in-law (which is where the horse is now). Trying to set up meeting with sister-in-law and my client who wants him.

Sorry I haven't updated - my farm sold yesterday http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif and my life has become he!! on earth today.

But I WILL post later today.

[FlightCheck]

More updates!

Ok, we are trying to coordinate a "look-see" today and a transport to my barn this evening. It's supposed to be cooold tonight, and I have vet support and blankets at the ready.

[mbp]

Fingers crossed, best wishes, jingles and hopes for a bright future all around!

[tatertot]

Can't wait to hear what happens and to see pics!

Proud member of the "chicken Jumper clique"

[arnika]

Here's hoping the old guy made it to your place FlightCheck. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Where are you going to be now that you've sold your farm?

Terry

[FlightCheck]

Well, I'm out of the loop.

My client was all ready to take him; called to make a time and was told that someone else is taking him....no other info......

[Living My Dream]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif Well, this cannot stand!

Hmmmm what to do now? We must have closure to this situation.

Fernie, would you be wiling to call and put the squeeze on them for info? Just wanting to know he's in a good situation?

It was very, VERY cold last night and I had bad thoughts about an old horse standing alone and uncovered out in the weather http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[fernie fox]

That is a bitch.

I am checking it out now.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[fernie fox]

Flightcheck I am so sorry for this screw up.

Jeannie is ready for you to go and get the horse today.She says it has not been found a home.

Please call her on the 954 # I gave you,she is there now.Tell her I am a friend of Gio's.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[FlightCheck]

Eek!

Will try to coordinate everyone again!!

[fernie fox]

If you e-mail me your # I will call you.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Fallbrook]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fernie fox:

IT is my own fault,I should not pick up these poor animals if I cant afford to keep them.Which is why I normally try to get them well advertized to knowledgable homes,just pass the word around.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fernie - I think you are a saint and admire you for your compassion and determination in getting these horses placed in decent homes. Keep the information coming and as Horse Jumper says "Need any $$s for him?"

[fernie fox]

Any news Flightcheck?

.Jeannie says she has not heard anything from you.

Please e-mail me a # I can contact you on.

hossjock@yahoo.com

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound"

[fernie fox]

Shameless bump.???

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Living My Dream]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif Good gravy, what on earth is going on?

Is that poor old guy still standing around waiting for a forever home? So sad
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[fernie fox]

This is sooo frustrating.


But I know Flightcheck is involved with Rocking horse this Weekend.

If only she would get a phone # that I can speak to her.

I have a friend in Dade City,that could possibly pick the horse up for her,until she can get him,probably after the show this weekend.

I am going out to supper now.

Maybe F/C will leave me a message and then I can talk to her.

Will be back at 9pm.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[FlightCheck]

EEK!

Ok, FINALLY got everyone back connected and we are going TODAY to get him.

So sorry - the new owners of my farm want to move in the 23 Feb and I have been looking at an average of FIFTEEN houses a day in another city http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif AND have to pack up the barn and move the horses AND...

I dropped the ball. Sorry....

FF - I'll put my px in a PT for you....

[Living My Dream]

Wow, FC, you're really maxed out, aren't you?

And you're still taking the time to get the old boy to his new home?

WHOOOOHOOOO FlightCheck rocks!

*Sending good thoughts of strength, endurance, and patience to FlightCheck*

Be sure to stay hydrated and check your rigging http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Living My Dream]

Dare I inquire?

[fernie fox]

Only Bad News.

Poor Flightcheck's people decided they did not want to go through with getting him.

They say they had a bad feeling about the situation.

I can't blame them,because,the owner is in Miami and the horse is in O'steen,with her EX.SIL.

The problem is it sounds dodgy,BUT,neither want the horse.And, there really is NOT a problem,they all just want him gone.

Very sad...

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[FLHunter]

Could he be used as a sensible school horse?

[fernie fox]

I dont think I would use a 26yr old in a lesson programme.

As far as I am concerned,he needs a retirement home.

I can give you the owners # if you like.

As I said earlier,he is very thin,according to the owner.

I have exhausted all my outlets for him.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[northcountry]

Aww, this is so sad. Fernie Fox, you're to be commended for trying so hard to find this guy a proper retirement home. Good luck.

[hunt_jump]

If he is very quiet, I would suggest looking into a riding for the handicapped program. I realize he is older, but I worked with a program in Brevard County where most of the horses are in their 20s-30s and are healthy and happy with their work. I think that Freedom Ride in Orlando may be looking for horses.

I think that retirement really depends on the horse. I have known plenty of 20-25+ yr old horses who were much happier in lesson programs or even showing than being pets in a field. I actually knew one pony that the owners tried to retire, but they started showing him again even up into his mid 30s because he would colic everytime the trailer left without him.

~ hunt_jump ~
http://home.cfl.rr.com/huntjump

[fernie fox]

I hear what you guys are saying.

The problem is,the owner says he is in ""very Thin"' condition.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Living My Dream]

Fernie

"Very thin" as in nobody's feeding the poor guy so he's become emaciated trying to find grass in January?

Possible for you to pick him up and allow board members to assist you with the $$?

At least as a temporary measure, to give him comfort and keep him alive whilst other possibilities are studied?

I truly do admire you for your dedication to this cause, and would be happy to deposit $$ toward his care.

Poor FlightCheck! Good on you for all your efforts on the old guy's behalf. Hope you find a suitable home for yourself and Mr. FC soon - like tomorrow http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[fernie fox]

I am 4 hours north of him.

I absolutely cannot take another one,I am starting to have sleepless nights and getting very concerned about," the old ladies" future.

Is anyone down there able to go and take pics?.

Maybe that would help.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[DizzyMagic]

Yes please, pics. They always help to put a face with the situation. It would also be good to know his actual condition.

Keeping my fingers crossed for him....

Emily

[Dancing Lawn]

Damn, I wish I was closer. I always manage to find room, one way or another. And with four more mares leaving at the end of the month, it wouldn't be a problem. There's no way I can pay for shipping, though. Maybe we could do a series of runs, from Florida to Ontario? The logistics are mind-boggling. If we could get him here, he could live out his days, in peace and comfort. It's an awfully long drive, though.

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[hunt_jump]

I'm not too far away, but unfortunately I just got released from the hospital and I'm stuck at home. Otherwise I would have been more than happy to go take some pictures and check out his condition.

~ hunt_jump ~
http://home.cfl.rr.com/huntjump

[redopp]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dancing lawn:
If we could get him here, he could live out his days, in peace and comfort. It's an awfully long drive, though.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then let's get him to you! How much do you think shipping will cost? I'm sure we can raise the $$$. I promise at least $100.

Who else is in?

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[monstrpony]

I'd be willing to make a small contribution, but it sounds like a long shipping trip isn't the best idea for this guy. It sounds like he's not in the best of condition, and shipping can take it out of even the fittest horse.

Just a thought. But I'm glad to help $$-wise if that's what's decided.

___________
He's not really a pony, and I'm really not "pony aged" either.

[Dancing Lawn]

Probably into the thousands, like two or more. I don't know how practical it would be to hire a shipper. There's no way I can do it, I have NO extra pennies, but I have the space, and tons of pasture, and hay in the winter. So keeping him isn't a problem. And then, there's the import papers, coggins, and border fees, as well. If we can do it, great, there's a stall for him, and it would be permanent. Once here, all costs for his upkeep would be my responsibilty. Can we pull this off? What do you think? Although I can't believe that in the entire U.S.A there's no one who can offer him a home. What a sorry state of the world.

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[Louise]

I hate to be a spoiler here, but not only is this guy old, and not in the best of condition, but he would be moving from Florida to Canada - from warmth to bitter cold (at least this year). I doubt if he could handle the temperature change.

Fernie - have you got room to hold him, both to improve his condition and to wait until the weather is better in Canada, if we were to chip in and help with his keep?

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"This it be die most importante thing in die world, that someone they loff us."
Willem

[sicilianqt]

I have a horse rescue in Martin County that is willing to take him. I need to find out exactly where he is and look for someone to trailer him down this way.

[redopp]

fernie -- sicilianqt is the person i telephoned you about earlier today. i'm keeping my fingers crossed everything will work out.

[fernie fox]

Sicilianqt.

I have just spoken to the owner,she is desperate to find somewhere for this old horse.

I particularly enquired as to his condition.

She says,although healthy,is very very thin.

So be prepared
Please e-mail me at,hossjock@yahoo.com

I will give you the # of the owner and the # where the horse is located.

He is in O'steen FL.Just North east of Orlando

between Sanford and Scotsmoor.

I have a friend who may be able to help move him next week.

She is a very Experienced TB person here is her Web page.Star Valley farm (http://www.starvalleyfarm.net)


Please contact me.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[fernie fox]

Just spoke to Chris.with the HOPE Foundation.they are in Port St Lucie[I think]

She says they can take him.

Anyone South of DAytona who could get him down to her??

Or maybe someone in the Orlando area??

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[sicilianqt]

If there is anyone who can help move him down here to my rescue, please email me at either hope4horses@hotmail.com or sicilianqt@adelphia.net. We have room for this poor horse.
Thanks,
Chris

[sicilianqt]

I spoke to my secretary/treasurer. Funds are very tight this time of year, but we can definetly take him on. My vet will examine him as soon as he arrives. Im hoping someone will be able to help us move him down here. He's probably 2 hrs north of us. PLease email if you hear anything else.

[fernie fox]

Bumping.

In the hopes someone in his area can help to get him to the rescue.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Pocket Pony]

fernie, you continue to amaze me with your thoughtfulness and concern for these wonderful animals. I wish there was something I could do to help...if I were in FL, I would come pick him up and deliver him myself!

"Both rider and horse must enjoy the work. This is the essence of success" - Reiner Klimke

[Madison]

fernie, maybe you could update the title of the thread to reflect that this horse now has a place to go but needs transportation in FL to try and catch the eye of someone new.

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http://community.webshots.com/user/madisonav

[fernie fox]

Thanks for the nudge Madison. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Redopp.you are a superstar. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[FlightCheck]

I'm at Rocking Horse from now until Sunday.

Monday I would be willing to donate taking him anywhere within a 3 hour radius of me (New Smyrna)

I can also donate a bag of feed and some hay, and perhaps a blanket?

[FlightCheck]

and, since I am "cleaning out the barn since it is sold, http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif I'm sure I have a grooming box and misc. other items (fly mask, etc.) that he might need.

[sicilianqt]

I have left another message for the owner and I spoke to Tammy's daughter who said the horse is healthy but he is about 500-600 lbs under weight. She said you can see every bone in his body and desperately needs his hooves and teeth done. Does anyone have a photo of this horse that they can possibly post? I hope they call me back before flightcheck leaves. THANK YOU for offering to move him for us!!

[fernie fox]

No pics,I couldnt get anyone over there.

We are of course wanting you to post some asap.after you get him to your place. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

It will be great to actually see what the old guy looks like. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[sicilianqt]

I definetley will. I hope Tammy calls me soon. I was told she was out for breakfast. It's always nice to know that these people can afford to feed themselves while their animals starve. For anyone who wants to see pics of him when he arrives my website is
http://expage.com/hope4horses I will post some the same day he arrives. keep your fingers crossed.

[fernie fox]

Sicianqt.

I suggest you E-mail Flightcheck.

Am pretty sure that she will check her e-mails.

Please make sure that the caretakers of the horse gives a Bill of sale{$1.00]stating he is free of any Liens.

You can e-mail that to Flightcheck,or who ever picks him up.

Make sure "whoever" hands the horse over to the transporter signs it.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Living My Dream]

Given the owner's assessment of his condition, I wonder if the old guy will even be alive next week.

Whoever can haul him, and to Sicilian, I will be glad to deposit $$ toward his transport and upkeep.

Fernie, since you have all the phone #s and info on this guy, would you consider posting on the Florida Yahoo boards and Tim Trott's page? (and if you have, please forgive - I'm still trying to recover from downtime)

Mash, blanket, pick, and soak - that's my life at the moment

[sicilianqt]

Living dreams, Thank you for the offer. From what I was told, it will take some time to get him back up to acceptable weight. I received a severely emaciated thoroughbred mare 4 weeks ago. She too was approx 500lbs under weight. She also has no top teeth and scaly hooves due to poor nutrition. You can see every bone in her body as well. She was basically eating what the womans cows, goats, ducks, pigs etc. were eating.

http://expage.com/hope4horses

[sicilianqt]

Ok, I've put in 2 more calls to both women and neither has returned them. Fernie Fox, have you been able to contact either today? I will put in another around 2 or 3 o'clock again.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[sicilianqt]

I have Tammy on the phone now. She says the sooner we move him the better. If someone could contact her with directions to her place that would be great. You can email me for her phone number.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Living My Dream]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif
Can anyone help?

Mash, blanket, pick, soak - my life at the moment

[VigorsMom]

I have been following this thread from its start.(I am the one from the exracers site that sent over the rescue links via redopp)
I have just emailed a number of rescue haulers to see if they can help.It seems a number of people are willing to contribute $ to this, can we just hire a local transporter thats near the location?
I cant rest until this poor old gentleman is at his new home.(wish I still lived in Fl. , Id pick him up myself. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

[LucianCephus]

Any word? I'd be glad to kick in a little money if a ride can be found.

[Lord Helpus]

This is so sad. The number of vans and trailers that are just parked at the show grounds in Ocala. PLUS the racehorses who are R&R'ing it in Pcala who go back and forth to the Tampa race track.


There ARE vans that make that trip all the time. It is just finding one.

What about contacting someone at one of the Ocala training centers, or at the race track in Tampa?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When I die, I want to die like my grandfather-who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car."

[fernie fox]

As Flightcheck has very kindly offered to move the horse on Monday,I think we should go with her kind offer.

Sicilian qt.have you e-mailed Flightcheck,she is 3 miles from this horse.It makes sense to take her up on that offer.[her e-mail is in her profile].

Flightcheck is busy this weekend but I am sure she will respond as soon as she can.

Monday sounds really good to me.

Please make sure that Tammy and Jeanie are full aware that she is picking the horse up.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[sicilianqt]

I called and told Tammy we would be taking him in a few days. I emailed flight check and asked her to email me for Tammys directions. I was sent a pic of a VERY emaciated horse and I pray that it is not him. From the looks of this picture it will take a long time (approx 1 yr) for this horse to recuperate. I have my vet, farrier and equine dentist coming out as soon as he arrives. I was told he has no coggins, shots, hasnt been wormed,and hoof care etc whatsoever. Flightcheck, if you see this or get your email fom me, please contact me back asap. Thanks to everyone who is concerned for him.

Chris

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[fernie fox]

Thanks Sicilianqt.

Could you e-mail me the pics please ASAP.

hossjock@yahoo.com

Do you have a paypal ACc?

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Living My Dream]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
VERY emaciated? No worming, no coggins, no hoof care? Oy vay http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Sicilian, you have a picture? Possible to post it so that someone might be "moved" to act VERY quickly on his behalf?

As I'm not close enough nor do I own the necessary equipment, please know that my donation is in the mail to you today. Yours is a worthy cause and must be supported; otherwise, there's NO hope for such as this old guy and the ones you've already helped.
God blesses those who care for his creatures http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Living My Dream]

To add:

Somewhere on this thread I believe it was Fernie Fox who said if she won the lottery she would start a rescue for old horses. That's a wonderful idea, and

If *I* should ever be so fortunate, I hereby promise to make a substantial donation to each of the existing rescues first. Then, purchase my own $perfect pastures$ in order to add acreage for rescue needs http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[sicilianqt]

I sent fernie fox a copy of the horse picture i was sent. Some one asked for my paypal account. You can go on our website at
http://expage.com/hope4horses and click under our paypal link. Thank you for all your support.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[fernie fox]

Here is his pic. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[fernie fox]

This pic.is a great example of why I just cant walk away.

I won't even say any more.I don't think I need to.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[barbaraG]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

OMG!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

This poor horse! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

I have never seen any horse in worst condition!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Not even in the shelters!!

BarbaraG
GWV

[fernie fox]

We have many like this down here.

I am no longer amazed.

Just sickened. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[redopp]

Chris, if you want to arrange to get him out of there before Monday find out how much trailering will cost -- I can send you about $200. I'm sure I'll waste at least that much at the Beval sale next week, and this is far better than stuffing my too full tackroom. I know it's only 4 days to Monday, but I want you to have the option of sending someone for him right away.

I am overwhelmed with sadness after seeing that picture -- my heart is breaking.

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[wanderlust]

How that woman can keep telling you "he's healthy but thin" is beyond me. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif There is no way in hell that horse is anything close to resembling "healthy."

Personally, I would eat ramen noodles for breakfast, lunch and dinner 7 days a week before my horses would get any less food than they needed to maintain their slightly chubby selves.

Is there a commercial hauler that could get him before Monday? I'm sure we could round up the $200 or so it would cost to get him hauled up there.

Absolutely heart-breaking. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

~formerly Master Tally~

[monstrpony]

Geez, half the horse population of the East Coast is in Florida right now, and we can't find someone to pick up this poor beast? I'd do it myself, except by the time I get there from NC, FlightCheck will be there anyway.

Augh, that makes me sick!! I'm going to have nightmares about this tonight. Yuck.

If no one can haul him, can someone take him a bale of hay at least??

___________
He's not really a pony, and I'm really not "pony aged" either.

[sicilianqt]

If i cant get ahold of flight check by Saturday, I will do my damnest to find him a way down sooner.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[VigorsMom]

The pic has confirmed my worst fears.
So glad he is going to get to HOPE asap !!!

Thanks Redopp for your kind email, I try to help assist in rescues in whatever humble way I am able to. This one is keeping me awake at night and now with the photo.....

[Dancing Lawn]

I can't stand this. I go through this type of thing all the time, too. it just takes so long, to find anybody willing to help, with keeping them, shipping them, anything. Good luck, Fernie, I hope it ends well. and SOON.

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[arnika]

sicilianqt, you have a PT.

Terry

[sicilianqt]

A pt?

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[arnika]

A private topic, sorry. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Just look on the blue toolbar at the top of the posts and click on "My Space". Then click on private topic and we can have a conversation that is a little more private.

Terry

[sicilianqt]

im trying to get it but the website keeps saying im not logged in. each time i try to log in it says "your not logged in"

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[sicilianqt]

you can privately email me at sicilianqt@adelphia.net

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[arnika]

Hey sicilianqt, I'll email you. Just wanted to let you know that I can probably move the poor old guy for you tomorrow if you want. I know Flightcheck is announcing at a show for the next two days.

Terry

[wanderlust]

arnika, you are my hero!!! Fingers crossed that you get there and he is not in nearly as bad shape as that photo leas us to believe...

~formerly Master Tally~

[gibbsshred]

I am so happy that you are taking this poor horse....I too hope that he is not as bad as he looks in that picture. The poor thing.

[reefy!]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif Definitely can't be too healthy in that condition.

Bless you all for helping. If anyone is wanting some donations to help out with his transport or food, please let us know how to get it to you!!

* STRESSED is DESSERTS spelled backwards! *

[Lord Helpus]

And there is a reason we (or someone) has not called animal control and had the people responsible for his condition arrested for starving this poor horse?

All of the discussion on this thread has been geared toward rescue (which he certainly needs). But the local animal control could have already gotten him and he would be out of that abusive home.

This horse has been STARVED and I am appalled. Why haven't others in the area called the local SPCA?

I will be sending a donation to Hope 4 Horses in his behalf.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When I die, I want to die like my grandfather-who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car."

[Vandy]

Sicilianqt,
Bless you for taking in this poor horse. Are his travel arrangements all set? I agree with Lord Helpus that someone should call the SPCA - this horse isn't just "thin", he looks to be starving. Of course, it might be wise to get the horse out of that location before reporting them...

On another note, I visited your hope4horses website and got a whole bunch of popup ads from your host which crashed my browser. I have plenty of server space and would be happy to donate free web hosting for your rescue site, please PT me if you are interested.

[This message was edited by Vandy on Feb. 06, 2004 at 12:16 PM.]

[BeastieSlave]

Good luck guys! arnika, sicilianqt, ferni, flightcheck, and everyone else who's in the thick of it... I know I'm not alone in saying "Our thought are with you, and bless you!!".
Jingles for the old guy! Please keep us posted.

[equinelaundry]

Lord Help Us - thank you for bringing that up again. This situation is sick. This is the product of human hands http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif. What is even sicker is how many times a vet walked by and never said a word http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. This mentality must end. This takes a village - not a few people scattered across the US. Oh yeah, we've seen worse.....this is happening all over and vets, farriers, barn managers, boarders, nobody says a word. The lack of ethics and morals is frightening and it pisses me off on a daily basis. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[Seven]

Keeping my fingers crossed that everything works out!

I wish we were closer and could help more.

Please post here about donations (if it's PayPal then the e-mail address we'd use).

****
NEW YORK HORSE RESCUE (http://www.nyhr.org)

[redopp]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lord Helpus:
And there is a reason we (or someone) has not called animal control and had the people responsible for his condition arrested for starving this poor horse?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course I can't speak for everyone who is working on his behalf, but I can tell you why I haven't contacted authorities. First there is the fact that until we saw the photo that fernie posted I don't think anyone understood quite how dire his circumstances are.

But my primary reason for continuing this on a private basis is that I have no idea what would happen if he were seized due to neglect. Where would he go? Who would care for him? Would he end up going to auction like the lost horse in Washington State? Would the owners get their backs up and try to regain custody? Without the answers to any of these questions I feel very strongly that the best thing for this horse is to have the owners turn him over to a reputable and experienced resuce organization.

Should someone have done something sooner? Unquestionably -- and I am as outraged as everyone else at the people who knew of his plight and turned a blind eye to it. But right now I just want to get the poor old guy warm and fed. I think that is best accomplished by getting him to Chris -- and then getting Chris some donations to help care for him.

And one other thing -- as we all know, the internet is a very public place. I think we should stop any discussion of legal actions against the owners and/or caretakers. Should they find out about this thread, it would be a great shame if they were to change their mind about turning him over voluntarily. I completely understand everyone's reaction -- but let's keep our eye on the ball and just get that guy quietly out of there.

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[VigorsMom]

Redopp has very valid points to keep in mind . It is so trying on all of us watching this unfold and very easy to let our gut reactions take over while we are posting. I agree getting him to the rescue is the goal at hand and it is wonderful that it is progressing forward. Thanks Hope 4 Horses and all involved !!!

[equinelaundry]

Keeping emotions in check is important but needed to vent on ethic & moral responsibility.

Why on earth would someone want to become a vet - not for the money - hard for someone like me to understand why people choose to always look the other way. It is sad to see that doing the right thing is the hardest thing.

If you don't rescue, don't breed. Simple solution to companion animal overpopulation.

[redopp]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by equinelaundry:
Keeping emotions in check is important but needed to vent on ethic & moral responsibility.

Why on earth would someone want to become a vet - not for the money - hard for someone like me to understand why people choose to always look the other way. It is sad to see that doing the right thing is the hardest thing.

If you don't rescue, don't breed. Simple solution to companion animal overpopulation.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen to that.

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[FLF]

I also tried to follow your link to donate $$ but couldn't because of the pop ups shutting down my browser. You show a couple of e-mail addresses, should we use one of those to send $$ via Paypal?

I love this country!!
www.foxlairponies.com (http://www.foxlairponies.com)

[fernie fox]

Arnica I would be sooo greatful if you could move him tommorrow..
I have driven 300 miles round trip today to check out some TBs being sold at auction TOMMORROW.

They are not quite as bad as Reggie.But still at risk.

I can't delete what has already been said on here.

BUT...

EVERYBODY,Please wait until AFTER we have him in decent care,before you vent anymore.

There is a reason I Have NOT called Animal Control,or any other authorities.

To be quite honest,it is in the horse's best interest to go to a registered 'rescue'.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[VigorsMom]

To be quite honest,it is in the horse's best interest to go to a registered 'rescue'.

fernie fox
QUOTE]


Exactly and the owner(s) have volunteered this be done of their own free will.

[sicilianqt]

my email address under paypal is sicilianqt@adelphia.net. It should come up for Hope for Horses. Thank you to all for your help!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[sicilianqt]

OK, Here's an update on Reggie. His owner Jeannie says we can come get him now if we want to. She tells me he is 17 or 18 yrs old and is about 400-500 lbs underweight.(last she saw him) Arnika is willing to pick him up tomorrow. I put in a call to Tammy, Jeannie's S.I.L but she is not home. I will call all night or Arnika if you want her number so you can call for directions I can give it to you. Thank you to all who offered a donation for his care. If you cant get on our site, I believe you can donate through paypal by my email address, sicilianqt@adelphia.net or mail them to our headquarters at 256 SW Statler Ave Port Saint Lucie, FL 34984. We also have a business account at First National Bank and I believe donations can be made there under "Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation,Inc." Again, thank you ALL for everything. Thank you for contacting me in regards to this poor boy. I promise to post pics ASAP.
Sincerely,
Chris

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[sicilianqt]

Arnika, I can't get a hold of you the phone is busy so I'm hoping you are on here. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I got directions from the sister in law Tammy to her house.She says 8 am is fine to pick him up. Here are the directions. Call with any questions.

Take 40 to 17 and make a right. (head south) take 17 to 15a and make a right. Take 15a to 1792 and make a right. Go about 1 mile up to 472 (which turns into Howland). Take 472 about 10 miles until it deadends on St Rd 415. Make a right on 415 and go 3 miles. You will see a Handway and a Skips store. After Skips store, make a left on New Smyrna Bch Blvd. Go approx 100 ft and make a left on Osteen-maytown Rd. Go 3 miles to Riveroaks Dr. and make a right. It is the second drive way on the right. the address is 230 Riveroaks Dr. Her name is tammy and her number is 1-407-324-7904. She said call if you get lost. I will call you tonight when I get home with directions to my place.

Thank you !!!!!!!!!
Chris

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[arnika]

Hi Chris, yes the 14 yo had taken it to her room to chat. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I just found her and kicked her off. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'll write down the directions and head out early tomorrow. If traffic is light I'll try to get to your place just before noon. I'm so sorry about the phone, fernie fox called first and we talked for a bit, then Lauren took off with it. I've got all his equipment ready! New halter and lead, brushes, buckets and shipping wraps. Couldn't get him a blanket since I didn't know his size but I'll bring a few of mine and hope one fits for the ride if needed. I'm very glad that the weather is warm right now, he should be fine. I'll be home and will keep the phone open for you.

Terry

[Living My Dream]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Sicilian! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Did you get permission from the owner or SIL to publicly post HER telephone number and direction to HER property?

Please, please, edit your post POST-HASTE!

Living My Dream does not wish to see or hear of a crowd of onlookers with *definite opinions* descending upon these women and the horse due to lack of common courtesy! This is, after all, a PUBLIC forum!

Oh my, Living My Dream feels a nightmare coming on http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Living My Dream]

Arnika

Would you be kind enough to get in touch with Sicilian and ask her to edit her post to remove PRIVATE information?

And, Arnika, you are indeed a hero! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif
On behalf of Reggie I thank you, thank you, thank you.

If you would allow board members to be a part of this rescue by helping with expenses, I can do that and would love to. PT me where to send $$. I will keep you and Reggie in prayer for safe loading and delivery to Sicilian's facility. And will be waiting for a full update at your earliest possible convenience http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[sicilianqt]

I absolutely got permission. I would not have done so otherwise.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[sicilianqt]

I am sorry if anyone got offended. I did ask permision to post her number and address before doing so as long as her name was not on there. I can take it off the board if someone will tell me where the edit button is. Again, Im sorry if anyone was offended

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[suniday]

You guys are wonderful! A thousand kudos to you for all you have and are doing for this now lucky horse.

[VigorsMom]

A million thanks to Sicilianqt and Arnika (and all the others that have coordinated this rescue)!! You have made my day, actually my month, I'll bet! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Please keep us up to date.

[sicilianqt]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sicilianqt:

Thank you !!!!!!!!!
Chris

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[redopp]

OMGiH!!!!!!!!!!!

I CANNOT WAIT TO CHECK THE BOARD TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND SEE THAT HE'S THERE!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for shouting -- but this is shout-worthy news http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Thank you SicilianQT, fernie, arnika, ViggorsMom (did I miss anyone?) -- and everybody else who is jingling or donating to or just caring about Reggie's cause. Blessings on your collective heads.

And fernie, when you go to your final reward your feet will never touch the ground of Paradise. You'll be surrounded by horses all waiting to carry their angel anywhere she wants to go! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

[Adelita]

I can't wait for tomorrow when he's home....just sent a small, small, small donation thru Paypal....

((((((((hugs))))))) and blessings

Linda

&gt;^.,.^&lt;


www.imom.org (http://www.imom.org)
501(c)3 all volunteer organization that helps those who cannot pay for veterinary care for their pets.

[sicilianqt]

Linda, Thank you so much. Any doantion is a BIG donation and it is MUCH appreciated!!!
*hugs back* http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[VigorsMom]

Special thanks to Redopp , without her cross post of this matter we may not have found Chris at HOPE ! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
PS Sent a small donation to HOPE via paypal
(Sicilianqt, it is currently unclaimed at paypal, so make sure and look for it, sure wish I could do more.)

[arnika]

Well I think that I finally have everything ready for tomorrow. Thanks for all the well-wishing.

I'll post an update tomorrow when I get home but it will probably be evening. Heading off to bed now.............Good night.

PS; sicilianqt, if you want to edit your post, look at the bottom of the message you want to change. There will be a little yellow envelope with a pencil/erasor on it. Click on that and it will allow you to change, erase or delete your post.

[VigorsMom]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by redopp:
OMGiH!!!!!!!!!!!

And fernie, when you go to your final reward your feet will never touch the ground of Paradise. You'll be surrounded by horses all waiting to carry their angel anywhere she wants to go! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


SO TRUE !!!!!!!

[sicilianqt]

Vigorsmom, BIG thanks to you to. You people are wonderful. I will post about Reggie as soon as he arrives here with us. A BIG thank you to Redopp also for contacting me and Arnika for bringing him here and Fernie Fox for all your efforts in getting him a safe home.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Bensmom]

You guys ROCK! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'm also in Florida, but like Fernie, much farther north than Arnika. I've been following along quietly, and can donate to help if I can get my paypal account straightened out.

Ben's dad was seized by the humane society five years ago, and despite his former owner begging to be allowed to take him in, he had to stay warehoused with his owner at the time's other animals until the court case finally got sorted out. She did all she could for him, but he was put down before they were ever released for adoption http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif So, I think this is the best and quickest way for Reggie to have a better life.

Best wishes to everyone and good luck tomorrow Arnika!

Libby

*Proud member of the Hoof Fetish Clique*

[can't re-]

You guys are all so awesome pulling together for this horse. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I look forward to hearing about his arrival at his new home and will send a little for his care. I wish I could've helped, I've been on 24/7 foal watching duty for weeks. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sleepy.gif

[sicilianqt]

Arnika should be at the barn now loading him up. I called about 20 minutes ago and they said she was right down the road. I'll keep you posted throughout the day.
Chris

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Whoanellie]

My "Hat's Off" to all of you wonderful folks! The caring, support, team work involved in helping this horse is to be commended! Thank you for being there for the horses!

Gail
TIER Website: www.tierrescue.org (http://www.tierrescue.org)
TIER, 8920 Limonite Ave., 123, Riverside, CA 92509
909-360-1464
IT'S FOR THE HORSES!!

[sicilianqt]

Arnika has left the farm!!! She departed about an hour or so ago. She will be arriving at HOPE in the next hour and a half.Reggie is SAFE at last!!!!!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[VigorsMom]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thanks for keeping us up to date! This is the first thing I check each a.m. That is wonderful news. I look forward to coming back from the stable and checking here again late today. I am wondering what your assesment of him will be......Poor baby, well he is certainly headed to a caring environment.

[Madison]

Glad to hear this poor horse is on his way to a better way of life!!! Poor thing - that picture is just awful.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://community.webshots.com/user/madisonav

[sicilianqt]

Reggie is now here. He is extremely thin, aqnd has diarreah. Arnika took several pics of him that I will post when I get them tonight. He was not the horse in the pic, it was a mare they also have but his condition is a little worse except for the missing hair. he does have a nasty wound on the top of his neck though. I am 30 minutes late for work so I will post tonight

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[redopp]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sicilianqt:
He was not the horse in the pic, it was a mare they also have <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My joy at Reggie's arrival at HOPE is overshadowed by the news that they have ANOTHER emaciated horse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[wanderlust]

I think it may now be the time to call the authorities. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Glad to hear that Reggie made it to you safely, though.

~formerly Master Tally~

[VigorsMom]

Thank goodness Reggie is now in safe hands!


Another starving mare??What in the he** http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[arnika]

Hello to everyone checking up on Reggie. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I just got home. Long drive but definitely worth it.

First the good news, Reggie appears to be fairly stable. Extremely emaciated but dug into some hay without hesitation. He doesn't seem to be too weak, walked into the trailer like a gentleman. He's sooo sweet. Let me walk right into his run-in, put his new halter on and shipping wraps. He munched hay for the entire ride down and managed to pack away one whole hay net full by the time we arrived. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Before I go any further, let me address a miscomunication. The people do have another mare, a 15 hand chestnut paint and I suspect the prior picture was of her. But she is actually in good shape. According to some vet records she gave us, the horses were brought to her place after being taken away from the former boarding farm where they were both neglected. The mare is now a normal weight and trust me, is very active(but she is only 5 yo). In my personal opinion, the young mare was driving the old gelding off his feed and they just plain weren't getting enough food for him to be able to put on any weight. I think she just managed to keep him stable. He looks about the same as when she got him.

I can't excuse the way he looks, it's horrible. But she was very agreeable about turning him over, the other horse looks fine and she showed me records of vet visits into the hundreds of dollars trying to improve Reggie. I really feel it was more financial/ignorance of what was needed than malice. I wouldn't call the authorities as now there is no violation to see.

Now, back to Reggie! He's very sweet(have I mentioned that? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and has a very pretty head with a large, kind eye. He's a very dark bay/brown with a white star. I have several pictures that I'll try to post but they may be too big in KBs. He would be quite pretty once normal weight, his conformation is nice(not hard to tell as you can see every bone)! His ground manners are perfect and I'm already wanting to visit him again. Next time I'm down that way I'll stop and take more pics.

I'm really beat so I'm going to try to post these and then head to bed. Take care and thank you so much for all the good wishes. Sicilianqt told me she would post more when she gets home.

[arnika]

Sure enough, the file is too big. If anyone knows how to resize it from 257KB to 100KB just post the directions and I'll put them up.

A quick note to fernie fox, thank you for calling my cell to check up on if I got home. Traffic was heavy, but I made it! I'll email you tomorrow am.

And can't re, I just saw the time on your post! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif If I'd known you were going to be up when I was, I would have had you come with. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif
Let me know when your foal is born. Is this from your Han. or the new TB?

Terry

[VigorsMom]

Ahh..all good news indeed! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Reggie sounds like a dear! So glad he's at HOPE
now!!

[horse_poor]

bless all of your hearts http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

i am just now finding this thread (have i been living under a rock?)

im glad reggie found a safe place

molly
*member of just about every clique*
http://community.webshots.com/user/mavw1971

www.oasisequestrian.com (http://www.oasisequestrian.com)

[wanderlust]

arnika, you are a saint for taking him to sicilianqt. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

To resize .jpg files in microsoft photo editor, go to "image" in the menu bar, scroll to "resize", then adjust down the width from 100%. The height will reduce automatically when you reduce the width. When you are done reducing (probably down to 30% to get the file size small enough), click OK, then do a "save as" with a new name, so you don't permanently change the original photo size.

~formerly Master Tally~

[Lord Helpus]

Or you can email the pictures to me (either inside the email if you have AOL 9.0 or as an attachment) and I will resize them and post them for you. Sounds like it is time to go to bed after your busy day. May you have a good night's sleep, knowing what a difference you made today.

my email is

PMahony@aol.com

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Do you know why they call it "PMS"? Because "Mad Cow Disease" was taken

[LoriO]

It is so wonderful how so many people on here pitch in to help out. I wish I was closer to FLorida to help out in person but since I'm not, I have sent what I could to help out through paypal. Give Reggie a big hug for me.

__________________________________________________ __________
**"You are under arrest for operating your mouth under the influence of
ignorance!" MPD Officer Beck
**"Member of the COTH Law Enforcement clique!"
**"Member of the Western clique"

[sicilianqt]

ok, im home from work. Reggie is a sweet heart. Great manners, very gentle. He is bone thin but ate his hay with gusto. I have my vet coming out tommorow to do his shots and coggins since he has neither and the farrier and dentist will be out Monday. I agree with Arnika, I believe this was a factor of pure ingnorance. I have gotten 4 different stories on this horse by 4 people. The owner said he was not rescued from another farm , but was not being feed from her forme SIL and they were thrown out of the barn and forced to put him on their property. Who knows. Either way this horse should not look like this and will NEVER be put in this situation again. I hope to post pics by tomorrow so everyone can see him. He is sweet.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[sicilianqt]

P.S. Lorio, THANK YOU for your donation! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Dancing Lawn]

It's KLEENEX Time!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif I can't wait for the pictures.

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[sicilianqt]

Ok some bad news about Reggie. he is severely anemic, underweight, dehydrated,full of worms,and is not passing any solid manure now. its all water that shoots out. We had a specialist look at him an hour ago because of this and he is appalled at his condition. He also has an infection in his sheath from buildup. He could not believe a vet would have someone put 2 cups of mineral oil per day in his feed. He broached the subject of euthenasia because of his problems and the cost to rehabilitate him, but said he IS fixable it will just take ALOT of time. He believes Reggie to be about 18-19 y/o. He gave him an IV bag of fluids with , i cant think of the name right now, for his dehydration. We opted to save him, not euthenise. He is savable and he deserves that chance. We will find out in the next day or 2 if he has other problems. I will keep you posted.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Dee]

sicilianqt, I know all the good you do will come back around to you a million times over. A donation check is on its way to you--I only wish I could send more. You and Reggie are in my prayers. Bless you.

"....what?" -Ozzy Osborne

[A Splash of Color]

Although I'm saddened to hear Reggie's latest update, it's comforting to know he is finally in an environment where folks will actively work to save him. And decisions will be made with his best interest at heart. He'll now have a fighting chance.

Everyone who has worked on rescuing this horse -- Fernie, Arnika, redopp and sicilianqt among others -- you are my heroes!

Joan S.
Photo Albums, including early 1980s Grand Prix (http://community.webshots.com/user/jsflwr)

[This message was edited by A Splash of Color on Feb. 08, 2004 at 05:15 PM.]

[fernie fox]

Sicilian qt.The owner told me his tattoo was starting with an 'H',as I said at the beginning of this thread,that would make him 25.

The symptoms he is experiencing I would expect from a horse as emaciated as he is.

Who on earth sugested Mineral oil.

Corn oil I could understand,that is great stuff when he can take it.

Thank you so much for taking him.

I know you will get a lot of support from the folks here.

It will take a few days to assess his true condition.Please keep us posted on his progress.

Thank you again.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[LoriO]

Hang in there Reggie!!! AT least now he has a fighting chance of a good recovery!!! Poor old guy. Thank you so much sicilainqt for all you are doing...Three Cheers for you, Fernie,redopp,Arnika and everyone who cares enough to help out these wonderful horses!!

__________________________________________________ __________
**"You are under arrest for operating your mouth under the influence of
ignorance!" MPD Officer Beck
**"Member of the COTH Law Enforcement clique!"
**"Member of the Western clique"

[sicilianqt]

fernie, the vet who checked him up in Osteen had the SIL put 1 cup mineral oil in his feed 2ce a day. Im sorry, i just reread the papers, its 1/2 gallon mineral oil 2ce a day. It started a 1 cup 2ce per day and was upped to 1/2 gallon 2ce per day. I just got back from him again, we had toput him in the quarintine pen until tomorrow. he is shootong his stuff all over the walls. he did nicker when i walked up and it made my eyes a lil teary.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[horsey nurse]

thankyou thankyou thankyou for caring for this old horse that had no one else. It takes special people like all of you to give horses good endings. I hope that Reggie pulls through, and if he is not able to do so, is at least able to spend the last days of his life cared for and loved. God bless!

If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

Dirt, its a health food- baileygrayhorse

[VigorsMom]

Sicilianqt,
So glad you have opted to try and save him. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Sounds as if it may be possible.He deserves the chance. I will send you another donation next paycheck for him !!

[horse_poor]

mineral oil ????????? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
what the fuh?

molly
*member of just about every clique*
http://community.webshots.com/user/mavw1971

www.oasisequestrian.com (http://www.oasisequestrian.com)

[sicilianqt]

Thank you all for the donations and words of encouragement. Our vet was down there again and just left. She tubed him and pure sand came out. We put him on probiotics as well as several other additives. Its amazing to see all of the vets, farriers, etc that have dropped by to see him. he is just such a sweet boy. We all tried to read the tatoo but it is realy blury. When I spoke to the owner she said he was 17 or 18 and 3 vets and the dentist believe he is that age to. Who knows? The only true fact known about him is he is a darling boy. Thanks again everyone! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[War Admiral]

Jingling hard for Reggie... And big hugs to all of you who have helped and are helping!!

______________

"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[BAB]

Tell me again where and how to send a donation for this dear old guy. I leave for Gulfport on Tuesday, so if I could get a check in the mail tomorrow, that would be good.

[sicilianqt]

Thank you so much for your offer BAB. You can send a doantion to
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation
256 SW Statler Ave
Pt. St. Lucie, FL 34984

Thank you again http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[A Splash of Color]

Dear Bab,

From an earlier post by sicilianqt:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I believe you can donate through paypal by my email address, sicilianqt@adelphia.net or mail them to our headquarters at 256 SW Statler Ave Port Saint Lucie, FL 34984. We also have a business account at First National Bank and I believe donations can be made there under "Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation,Inc." Again, thank you ALL for everything. Thank you for contacting me in regards to this poor boy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> (emphasis added)

Hope this helps.

Joan S.
Photo Albums, including early 1980s Grand Prix (http://community.webshots.com/user/jsflwr)

edited to add:
Sicilianqt: we posted at almost the same time. Great minds think alike? Good luck with Reggie.

[sicilianqt]

I saw that Splash of Color, http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif
Love your website

Chris

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Lord Helpus]

Terry emailed me the pictures so I could resize them for posting.

I will post the best first to ease you into his condition.....

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Do you know why they call it "PMS"? Because "Mad Cow Disease" was taken

[Lord Helpus]

Here is the other side

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Do you know why they call it "PMS"? Because "Mad Cow Disease" was taken

[Lord Helpus]

Here is the view from the rear

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Do you know why they call it "PMS"? Because "Mad Cow Disease" was taken

[Lord Helpus]

And Reggie from the front

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Do you know why they call it "PMS"? Because "Mad Cow Disease" was taken

[sicilianqt]

pics of Reggie now on my Picture trail account. Go to www.picturetrail.com (http://www.picturetrail.com) and it will say members account, type in sicilianqt and look under Our newest rescues

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[VigorsMom]

Oh Reggie is adorable, Dark Bay with a star, my absolute favorite! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You can see past his current condition to what a good looking boy he will be.

[arnika]

Thank you Lord Helpus for posting those. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

fernie fox, do you think you could change the title of the thread to let everyone know that Reggie has got a new home and we have new pics?

[sicilianqt]

He is a beauty isnt he? The children in one of our Pennies for Ponies classrooms will be renaming him tomorrow. We had another class that is involved in our program rename our one rescue from her previous name to Tennessee. The kids love that they get to pick and vote on new names.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[fernie fox]

Well,I must admit,he does'nt look as bad as I thought he would.

I watched an old horse go through an auction yesterday that looked far worse.

I hope he will do well,next time I am down his way I will visit him.

He looks such a kind fellow does'nt he.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[horse_poor]

he is adorable http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

molly
*member of just about every clique*
http://community.webshots.com/user/mavw1971

www.oasisequestrian.com (http://www.oasisequestrian.com)

[Black Market Radio]

What a sweet face! Good luck Reggie, you'll get more love than you ever thought possible now!

Devilpups (http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/angelgregory87)
Did you bring me a monkey?

[GuelphGurl]

Kudos to everyone for rescuing this poor gentleman, and to those sending donations. I am absolutely stunned at everyone's selflessness and generosity. You guys are great http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

Your actions instill a great sense of pride and responsibility in the rest of us, for looking after neglected horses where others fail to. I hope one day to do a fraction of the good turns that Reggie's rescuers have done for him in these past few days.

Now, I'm not a religious person, but God bless you all!

[BasqueMom]

What a wonderful face he has!!!! He must have been something in his better days and will be again.

Thanks to all the wonderful people involved in finding this guy a good place to be.

This is an awesome group of people!

Julie
www.centaurfencing.com (http://www.centaurfencing.com)
"The Horse-Friendly Fence"

[Vandy]

Best wishes for Reggie! The head-on picture of him brought me to tears - he is so skinny but has such a kind look in his eye. How wonderful that this horse is getting a second chance because of so many caring and generous people.

[LoriO]

What a lovable sweet face he has. Thank you so much Sicilianqt for doing all you can for the old guy (not that he's that old!!)

__________________________________________________ __________
**"You are under arrest for operating your mouth under the influence of
ignorance!" MPD Officer Beck
**"Member of the COTH Law Enforcement clique!"
**"Member of the Western clique"

[blackstallion]

Thank you for sharing the pictures and the updates about Reggie. Hopefully he will start feeling better soon and putting some weight back on. He's a lucky boy!

Kim
Eastern Shore of Virginia
Standing Katahdin
1999 Black JC Thoroughbred Stallion
http://rrthoroughbreds.tripod.com/katahdin/

[Dancing Lawn]

Fernie, I agree. He's not as bad as I was expecting. And doesn't that say a lot about what we've both seen, and come across. And after all theses years, i still don't understand how any horse can come to this condition, without Someone, stepping in to do something.
You're the best for being that person who steps in, as are all you people who made donations, did the driving, and have given this poor boy a home. Congratulations, everyone!
I need more kleenex. I think I'll buy shares in the company. I seem to need them alot on this board.

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[Kels]

Wow, what a kind looking guy! I wish I could do more for him, but I'm just a college student so I don't have money!

The other horses @ your rescue are fantastic, as well...I love Lola!

-Kelsey-

[arnika]

Basque Mom, I had that exact same thought when I saw him. I'm not a very good photographer but I hope I captured a little of his class.

He very much reminded me of the end of Black Beauty(I know, how sappy can I get http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif). But truly when I took a good look at him it is obvious that he is well bred, probably quite a classy horse in his younger days. Put this together with his very good manners and kind disposition and he fits right in there.

Fernie, I realize you've seen a lot more of these rescues than I have but I hope to never see a horse worse off than he is. If he was any thinner there would be nothing left. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[fernie fox]

Oh my gosh. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

I was not belittling Reggies condition. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

I was pleased to see his pics,and for some reason thought they would look a lot worse.

The worst thing I have seen in US,was a bunch of TBs. on a farm in Ocala,A while ago. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Yesterday I watched a 26 year old QH.sold as a broodmare.She fetched $100.If I had had the money,I would have bought her,given her some TLC for a week and had her put to sleep. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I don't know how much longer I can do this.I am starting to hate people,and lose a lot of sleep worrying about these animals. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[VigorsMom]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by fernie fox:

I don't know how much longer I can do this.I am starting to hate people,and lose a lot of sleep worrying about these animals. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif



I can relate to this. Please take care of yourself, it is very easy to get burned out dealing with peoples inhumanity to animals on a frequent basis. We do what we can one day at a time. Each rescue is precious.You are doing a wonderful work here, but please look after your own emotional needs too, even if you must slow down your efforts for a little while ! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[OneonOne]

fernie - don't give up! It's people like you that restore my faith in humanity! You can't save them all, but you do what you can. That's all anyone can ask!

I look up to people like you with your huge hearts. It makes me look forward to the day that I have property where I can give refuge to the horses that need our help. Keep the faith! It may seem to you that you are losing the war, but I bet if you asked Reggie he would say that that you've won one small battle for him. Try to look past the "big picture" of suffering and see the small victories that you have accomplished.

[Vandy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I don't know how much longer I can do this.I am starting to hate people,and lose a lot of sleep worrying about these animals. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I certainly understand that feeling. The auctions here are heartbreaking. Some of the horses they bring through can barely stand up and are beyond saving and there are many others who look basically like Reggie that might be comfortable and happy with good care. But every time some of these horses that could be rehabilitated end up at the killers. There are just too many unwanted horses and not enough people with the means and the desire to do somehthing about it. I do as much as I can (which isn't too much in the grand scheme of things) and a lot of other people on these boards like Fernie and Sicilianqt (and Trudy Glefke in my area) do a whole lot more. My SO told me that although he will always help me care for the horses we take home, he cannot come to the auctions any more because it affects him too much mentally. I can definitely understand.

Edited to add: OneOnOne - you said more of what I wanted to say, and much better. Couldn't agree more.

[This message was edited by Vandy on Feb. 09, 2004 at 01:50 PM.]

[Dancing Lawn]

Don't you dare give up! You know they need you. Take a bit of a break, though, a vacation really helps. And I don't necessarily mean go away on a long trip, or anything. Sometimes just a good, long soak in the tub works wonders. I don't know how long you've been doing this, but it does get to you. It's like smashing your head against the wall every day. But don't give up. Please don't give up.

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[Whiskey Lullaby]

Kudos to all who helped (wish I was older and lived closer - though I am coming to Fla. (port st.) tomorrow!)

Fernie- Don't give up!

Speak kindly to your little horse,
And soothe him when he wheezes,
Or he may turn his back on you,
And kick you where he pleases.

[sicilianqt]

Nickers grin. I am off tomorrow from work. I do have school until 10:30 If you have time, I would love to show you Reggie. Let me know

Chris

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[BAB]

Donation for Reggie's care in the mail tomorrow. Thanks for the address.

Bev

[sicilianqt]

Thank you for the doantion http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[sicilianqt]

Stupid acrylics, i can ttype worth a crap with them http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[BasqueMom]

Hang in there, Fernie Fox. Reggie and the old ladies would not be with us if you didn't do what you do. Since I'm rather new to the COTB,
it sounds like you have been helping horses for a long time.

Julie
www.centaurfencing.com (http://www.centaurfencing.com)
"The Horse-Friendly Fence"

[Pocket Pony]

You all are my heroes. Thank you for caring and taking the time and effort to go get Reggie (and of course, all the other horses you rescue).

Reggie has such a kind look in his eye, and such a regal air about him. I'm very hopeful that he'll be able to get over his current maladies and we'll see him healthy and fit (for retirement, that is!).

Please keep us posted on how he is doing!

"Both rider and horse must enjoy the work. This is the essence of success" - Reiner Klimke

[monstrpony]

Can't help thinking Reggie will be much better, much sooner, now that he's off the mineral oil http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Thank you all for caring and for giving the time to see that this guy is in a place where he can get better.

___________
He's not really a pony, and I'm really not "pony aged" either.

[marta]

well, i just read this thread for the first time from the beginning to the end.
thank you fernie and sicilianqt and everyone else who helped! you're all amazing.
jingling for reggie!

"It appears we are being transformed from an information
society to an informant society." Rep. Dennis Kucinich

[Tin]

gosh he's adorable! You can see in his eyes that he's a regal sweet horse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thank you!

My Reggie sends his love http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Though I think it's a shame to change his name....

~ they tease you cause they like you ~

[Laurel&HollyFarm]

I also just read the thread and sent a little something for Reggie. You guys are incredible! Please give us an update Chris when you get a moment.

Terry

[sicilianqt]

Laurel&Holly, Thank you for the donation. I will give an update as soon as we get his blood wrok back. My brother lived in Easley SC for years just right outside Greenville.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[arnika]

Just wanted to check in and see how Reggie is doing today. Is he still having diarrhea or has his stomach settled down?

I'm hoping all is going well and he's settling in well. Update us when you can.

[silver]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by monstrpony:
Can't help thinking Reggie will be much better, much sooner, now that he's off the mineral <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think someone might want to call the person who had Reggie and explain this to her. After all, from what we know she did take in two starved horses, one of whom has recovered. She did try to help this guy and was willing to give him up to a responsible party when she couldn't (possibly due to bad advice).

Also, she might want to switch vets.

[fernie fox]

Yes Silver,I am going to call her,in a couple of days when we know a little more about him,healthwise.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[sicilianqt]

I spoke to the owner, not the sister in law who stated that both of these horses are hers. She said it was the sister in law who did not feed reggie. She was shocked to hear that he was getting mineral oil. We tapped him and he was 748 lbs. He still has severe diareah. I dont know about either story. Each one is blaming the other. I know a vet was called by the owner, but according to the stories I got from 2 people in the sister in laws house, the horse was NOT being feed.I was told it was not their responsibilty. I do know the sister in law was out of feed and hay on the day he was picked up. Which is odd. The owner called me yesterday and said it was her sister in law who did it, that she had not sen reggie in some time. If this horse was being taken care of he would not have an uncared for sheath infection, be full of worms, no hoof care etc. Something just doesnt add up. I was told animal control was called on them several times. Regardless, i feel both are in the wrong. The owner for knowing his condition and leaving him there and the in laws for neglecting him in other ways. I will update later

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[silver]

OK, then, never mind. I got the impression from this thread that the horse was given up by someone who had already rescued him and couldn't deal with him. So it was just a case of CYA. I hope Animal Control can get the other horse away.

[Liretta]

sicilianqt,
I think we should start a jingles thread for Reggie. Poor old guy.
I know you know what you are doing in the recuperation department, but here is my story:
I rescued an Arabian over 2 years ago who spent 13 years living in Florida on racing farms. She is a very expensive import from Poland and you can tell she was treated really well most of her life, however, there is some abuse in her past. Anyway, she was sold in October 1998 at a seizure auction and brought to Michigan (it is already cold here at that time of year). I don't know much about what happened to her between 1998 and October 2001 when I bought her, except she went through several auctions. She was about 200 lbs underweight when I brought her home, so I tried a variety of feeds and supplements to get her weight up and found a combination that really worked well for her. I feed her alfalfa cubes soaked in water in addition to small amounts of baled hay, equine senior feed, vitamin B-12 supplement and Cocasoya oil. The Cocasoya oil is great! It isn't refined for human use so it has all the Omega-3 fats that are needed to add weight. Her teeth have worn in waves so she cannot chew a lot of hay, so winters in Michigan are really hard on the old girl. Our dentist is working on them but at her age (26) they can only do so much.
I know you do this sort of thing everyday, but I swear by both the alfalfa hay cubes and the cocasoya. The cubes are easy to digest and because they are concentrated, you don't have to feed alot to get results. Also, the oil is very cost effective. A gallon jug costs $9.95. I bought one in November and began feeding one pump per day (I think that is about an ounce). I still have several ounces left in the jug. The other thing about it is, they like the taste. You can get it in a 5 gallon pail also. Ukele is the manufacturer.
God bless you for taking in this gentleman horse. I hope your efforts will allow him to live out his golden years in contentment.
Mary

[marta]

liretta~
what is the name of this little mare you rescued?

"It appears we are being transformed from an information
society to an informant society." Rep. Dennis Kucinich

[sicilianqt]

Liretta,
We also use alfalfa cubes. We soak them for both Reggie and another mare we resued whose teeth had fallen out due to malnutrition. I also use straight alfalfa for emaciated horses. Our vet has been involved in several studies that swear by straight alfalfa. I have never heard of the oil but i will ask her.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Liretta]

Hi, Marta.
Her name is *Gardenia PASB, not to be confused with the Bask daughter also named Gardenia, but born in the US. Bask is her great uncle, though!
Gardenia, AKA Jasmine, was owned by Betsy Burger in Ocala, FL. Dr. James Budd bought her and I believe brought her to Michigan to his sons farm in Eaton Rapids, Tri-Color Farm. When I bought her she had a coggins and my friend contacted the people who were listed as the owner on the coggins, and they said they had her for about a year, but she was too dangerous for their kids! I am surprised because she is a doll with my 11 year old. I can only speculate what they did with her or maybe they made her live alone, something she will not tolerate. Anyway, she went back into the auction circuit and I bought her from a dealer who picked her up with the intention of finding a home for her. She doesn't have papers but she has the brands from Janow Podlaski on her withers; it was the only way to trace her, however, it took a trip to Poland by George Z., a reknown Arabian trainer from Poland working in Washington state, to actually find out her ID. I have a photocopy of her Polish registration, but I have to contact Dr. Budd and try to get him to sign her AHR papers over to me.
One of these days I will post some before and after pics of her. She is a real beauty!
Mary

[horse_poor]

we have a bask grandson stud at our barn-what a gorgeous boy http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

i am glad to hear reggie is hanging on-------poor boy-he looks like he has a a lot of class, thrown into a #$%^## situation http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

molly
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[sicilianqt]

reggie is not well. im going to barn. will email later

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[VigorsMom]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif oh no....

[horse_poor]

i started a jingle thread for reggie---sounds like he could use it

molly
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[VigorsMom]

Left my jingles for the boy. I will continue to check this thread for his updates, (unless a new one is started)

[horse_poor]

any update http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

molly
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[slave4tucker]

bump

[slave4tucker]

guess no news yet on Reggie

[Saddith]

Maybe they had a late nite, which is why we haven't heard an update yet...

I jingled in the other thread, and will keep jingling in this thread too.

[horse_poor]

i hope its good news...... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

molly
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[fernie fox]

Weeell,I just spoke to Chris's hubby,who said he is fine and gaining a little weight. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

He says that Chris wont be home until after 8 tonight.

Don't quite understand why she would say he was'nt doing so well,and then not post anything for a day. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Her hubby says she is at work,I can only hope he is ok,or maybe she has someone watching Reggie. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[DMK]

Gosh fernie, I KNOW you don't mean to sound critical of Chris after she has worked so hard to take this horse in when no one else could. But that's exactly how you sound...

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." - Kierkegaard

[arnika]

fernie, there is the landlord and another lady that live on the property within 200 ft of the barn. I believe they are usually around to help keep an eye on everybody as well.

I'll check back tonight to see if there's an update.

Edited to add: Chris works a full-time job, has 4 small children and I'm sure she is running like a mad woman right now.

[This message was edited by arnika on Feb. 13, 2004 at 01:39 PM.]

[horse_poor]

well maybe reggie was having a temporary tough time...maybe getting all that @$%#^ mineral oil out of his system and has made a turn for the better?

molly
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[fernie fox]

Sorry ,DMK.I dont mean to sound critical.

But Chris's last post got me worried,I really wanted to call her Late last night,but obviously did'nt.

I did try calling early this morning,no reply.

So my tiny mind is really worrying,about his condition.

In defence of Chris,a bomb could go off in my barn,and I don't think my hubby would notice.

The only thing he does seem VERY aware of,is an extra pair of ears in the barn.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[This message was edited by fernie fox on Feb. 13, 2004 at 01:40 PM.]

[fernie fox]

Thanks for that info.Arnika,obviously I have no idea how Chris does all this.

I did'nt know she had a caretaker on the property,she obviously works very hard, apart from taking in rescues.That in itself is a full time job,especially when they are sickly,and in need of special care.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[arnika]

No biggie, fernie. We all know you worry about them so........ http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[fernie fox]

You know Arnika,I would give anything to be able to lie down at night and just shut my thoughts down so I could get a decent nights sleep.

I never seem to get anymore than 3 hours sleep.

I wake up thinking and worrying about things that I really cant do much about.

Is this a "getting older" thing.

Anyone got any suggestions as to how to get a good nights sleep.

Of course I wake up every day feeling like crap,due to lack of sleep.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[redopp]

Yes, I would say Chris has her hands full -- She has a family, goes to school, has a job -- and STILL finds time to run a rescue. She's a better woman than I -- it makes me shudder just to think about doing all that!

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[sicilianqt]

ok, im back. My husband doesnt know one horse from another so he probably had no idea who she was asking about. Plus he works midnights and sleeps during the day so he might of been groggy. Regie still has an infection in his sheath which caused a fever last night. He is still on antibiotics and I cleaned it all out again. Its very nasty. I stayed with him until around 12:30- 1am and left for school at 7:30 and had to be at work at 10 am so I didnt have time to post. Sorry to worry everyone. His bowels are still runny but not pure water anymore. We gave him a good bath and it took 2 full bottles of shampoo until the water ran clear. Alot of dried mud and manure. He doesnt look any different to me but he is getting 8 flakes of hay per day now 2 T&A and 2 alfalfa in the A.M. and the same at night. We put him on Seminole Gold Chance 12 plus Lysine and probiotics. He is still passing worms so he might have been a little off due to that also. The kids in he Pennies for Ponies class named him Simba. Little weird but they are now his sponsors. I received several donatins for him today and thank you to Terry, Jennifer,and Terry M. I will be down there tomorrow a.m. for the farrier but the vet wants to wait a while before he gets his shots. He's just not up to it yet. He still has the sweetest disposition on him and is very gentle with kids. Ive already had a woman ask to adopt him but I turned her down. I think he's been through enough already. I will post tomorrow.
Chris. PS. again, thanks for all the help.

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Ride'emCO]

wow Chris you are a trooper! I hope Simba is better tonight - you should get some sleep!

[sicilianqt]

Love the name? They were so proud of it. I'd love to but now I have shopping to do. Family in town http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[Ride'emCO]

Wow, you're tough! but us Sicilian chicks always are... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[sicilianqt]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

http://expage.com/hope4horses
Hope for Horses Rescue Foundation, Inc.

[VigorsMom]

Thanks for the update, Chris.
Will keep sending him jingles for a full recovery.

[fernie fox]

Thank you so much for the update Sicilian qt.

I am soo happy he is maKing just a little headway,that is good news.

He will always be REggie to me,but Simba is a nice name,thanks to the kids.

I will try not to worry so much now,I know he is in good hands with you.Thank you again.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Dancing Lawn]

Fernie, when I can't sleep, I make some hot milk and honey. If that doesn't work, hot chocolate with rum. I try not to do that too often, a bottle of rum (a small one) will run me about 2 years! And then I curl up in bed, with both the dogs, add a couple of cats, and a dull book, with fine print.
If absolutely nothing works, then I sit up and watch Star Trek reruns.

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[wanderlust]

Many jingles coming Reggie/Simba's way. I think it is a cute name. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif I had a 'Reggie', and my hope is that this Reggie turns out to be as healthy and well-fed as mine became. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

fernie, I'm sorry you can't sleep at night. You are doing a wonderful thing by trying to save all these horses. But you can't save them all. No one can. You have to do the best you can, without killing yourself financially, physically or emotionally, and take solace in each small victory, not beat yourself up over each one you can't help. Find solace in the fact that your animals are well-taken care of, have enough food, have proper veterinary care... and that you are the one to provide it, because many, many people won't even do that for their animals.

For the near-term, try taking a warm bath right before bedtime. I was having a hard time sleeping at one point, and this would put me out *in* the tub. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif The other thing you may want to ask your doctor for is Ambien. I had a friend going through a really rough patch after her mom passed away, and she said they really helped and she woke up refreshed, not groggy.

~formerly Master Tally~

[hamptonmeadowfarm]

Fernie, if you will email me I would like to talk to you about not being able to sleep. Take care.