Corns

[dancinglite]

I have just removed my stallion from a situation where he received poor training and care.

I now have to contend with some corns on his back feet. Anyone have any idea on what is the best remedy for this problem.

[dancinglite]

I have just removed my stallion from a situation where he received poor training and care.

I now have to contend with some corns on his back feet. Anyone have any idea on what is the best remedy for this problem.

[Boston Chicken]

My experience has been a frustrating one. My horse too had some less than standard shoeing at another barn and his new farrier had a hell of a time getting him even on both sides. My horse is still on rest with handwalking without a right front shoe as we're waiting for him to get more comfortable before putting a shoe back on. Pads will help I'm told. Perhaps they'll help your horse too.

Good luck,
gillian

[Miss Maddie]

IME pads did not help with corns. Proper balanced shoeing to not put any pressure on that heel area is essential, as that is what causes the corns in the first place, pressure in the seat of corn area.

[dancinglite]

Just a bit of information.

The corns are on the back feet and he has not been shode there for over 9 months.

He was fine up to July that I know of but was under someones elses care after that.

I don't know if they rode him on hard ground but the ferrier I have now says the corns have been developing for at least 2-4 months

[Boston Chicken]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dancinglite:
He was fine up to July that I know of but was under someones elses care after that.

I don't know if they rode him on hard ground but the ferrier I have now says the corns have been developing for at least 2-4 months <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you get to ride him also during that time? Was he being used as a lesson horse? I'm confused as to what happened during those months - in other words, was he completely out of your care and therefore you didn't know what had happened to his feet? Or perhaps you just bought him?

At any rate, hope he feels better soon.

[dancinglite]

Did you get to ride him also during that time? Was he being used as a lesson horse? I'm confused as to what happened during those months - in other words, was he completely out of your care and therefore you didn't know what had happened to his feet? Or perhaps you just bought him?

At any rate, hope he feels better soon.[/QUOTE]

I have not ridden him from June to now and while he is not lame he is definetly "off".

During the time from July to about month ago he was under the care of a "trainer" and I visited him once a week.

[Adelita]

I've dealt with corns.

They were caused by low heels and dropped sole on my then-barefoot mare. She was not being ridden or used at the time, she was a pasture ornament.

My mare's were in back, too....it's more common for corns to be on the front feet, for whatever reason. And she was getting trimmed every six weeks, so it sure wasn't a case of going too long without trims. My vet said he sees corns quite often, especially on ground that has a lot of stones. And she has low heels and tends to grow quite a bit of toe, so she is conformationally disposed to things like this.

The answer is removing the pressure. For my mare, this meant three-quarter bar shoes, with the shoer checking her every two weeks and readjusting as necessary. It was expensive, but completely worth it. It's important to keep the area pared down and not let the toe get long, as that aggravates it. If it opens and drains, it's treated as an abscess (pull shoe, open it up, pack and wrap).

[dancinglite]

Thanks Adelita.

I have dealt with abscess before but I was told that corns are different. The ferrier is coming back and we will be talking over a plan of action.

I wanted a bit of information so that I would understand what the blacksmith might suggest.

It is going to take a bit of time for him to recover from the last 5 odd months.

[Adelita]

Yep, corns are different, however they can abscess. If they do abscess, make sure he's on antibiotics....they can get uglier than a "regular" abscess, according to my vet.

Corns are painful, poor guy. Having a great shoer is the number one way to help. I had my mare on bute too during the worst of it.

[Boston Chicken]

Faune's corn abscessed too. Two months later and he's still recovering. His sole is very, very soft from all the soaking so it will be even longer until he's toughened up again.

gillian

[dancinglite]

I thank everyone for their replies.

My boy was at a place that was under construction and if the trainer/rider was not taking care I can understand why the unshod back feet would receive the brunt of that type of riding.

I have a good blacksmith and barn owner that are looking after him and with the ferriers expertise his feet and the rest of him will come around with lots of food.

[Boston Chicken]

What kind of farrier work was he getting at the other place? Was it a boarding barn? Have other horses there had similar issues or perhaps he is just pre-disposed to corns?

[dancinglite]

B C

My stud is 12 years old and was barefoot untill 8 years old when I started to do serious jumping.

He has the best feet you could possibility have and all ferriers love to do his feet because they are so good and normal in fact this is one thing he passes on to his offspring so you can understand why I am upset.

I am not aware of any problems with any other horses at that place but the other horses were not ridden much while I was there. Mine was the only one "in training".

[Boston Chicken]

Yup - I can understand, especially if he's not comfortable. At least you now have a plan to get him back on the right track again.

Good luck,
gillian

[Future Breeder]

I can understand and see how you would ask for help about your horse's "corns", but there is absolutely NO sense in trying to bash/bad mouth the stable most of us know that you are talking about. It is a huge lack of professionalism. I'd highly suggest you stick to the topic of your horse's "corns" and leave the stable/rider/trainer out of it. If you thought the care was so horrible for those "last 5 odd months", then my dear, I think it is your own fault for not paying attention to your horse's care.

[helen elizabeth]

Kudos Future Breeder.

[Boston Chicken]

Color me confused...was just trying to share my experience. Have no idea what trainer or what horse...

Oh well, it seems it's better that I don't know.

[dancinglite]

B C

Just ignore them ---those guys are coooorrrrnnnny!!!!!!!!

[On Second Thought]

This is the same horse you were unwilling to place in a home as an option because you couldn't afford to keep him anymore so you were going to have him destroyed ?

It really seems like the corns are the least of this horses worries...

[Fisher Price My First Alter]

Or, if the corns become a really big problem, you could have him put down since you were planning that anyway.

[dancinglite]

More cooooooooooooooooornies !!!!



Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!

[On Second Thought]

I'm glad that you're delusions have taken an up swing. You certainly were not making jokes when you told the world you were going to euthanize your horse instead of finding him a loving and proper home. Everything seemed awfully grim then. (http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/showthread.php?p=275415#post275415)

I can only hope that your stallion remains safe, whether it's with corns or without them.

[Quinn]

Guys, it's not nice to poke sticks. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif It is so much better to avoid "rising to the bait." I love that saying. So appropriate in this case don't you think??

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

[happy mouth]

Dancinglite, I wonder what it is that you find so amusing.

[Rocky XVI]

Might I remind you, dancinglite, that such allegations are slanderous?

You have made it quite clear in previous posts what facilities your stallion has been at in the previous 6 months.

Should these facilities suffer financial hardship as the result of your remarks, you could be held accountable in a court of law.

I suggest that you post a retraction.

[On Second Thought]

not really, I mean usually yes i'd agree with you Quinn. But not in this case, for a couple of reasons... it's not like we don't know who DL is talking about, and she's being passive aggressive about it... Passive aggressive makes me cranky. She easily could have asked this question without gettin all snarky. If she wanted to get snarky, then get snarky, don't be all PA about it. Bring it.

Furthermore, it irks me to no end to see people who have made decisions like she made (thankfully was talked out of i imagine) come on here and act completely sane and selfless. She was going to kill her horse because she didn't want to find him a home that could take care of him. To me that warrants a smackdown.

Thats all http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Quinn]

On Second Thought, I completely concur. I think you missed my point though. Maybe I need to be crystal clear. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif Don't you remember as a child being told by your parent not to poke fun at someone who wasn't "all there?" Playing with a deck of 4, incomplete happy meal, twirl her hair while spinning, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Well, now I'm sure you get my meaning. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif It's better to walk away. These types tend to implode anyway.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

[On Second Thought]

OK, Quinn, you're RIGHT! And now completely clear... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif But damn, i so rarely have such a genuine desire to bring the hammer down.

[Pocket Pony]

What are corns and does anyone have a picture so I could see what they look like?

[Boston Chicken]

PP, I don't have a picture but the vet is coming today so I can get a shot of it probably. It's an abscessed one though...so probably not the kind that the OP was referring to.

Also, DL - I am ashamed that I even responded after what I learned after posting this morning... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[dancinglite]

P P

Corns are the result of improper shoeing or in my case a bruising of the foot caused by bad trimming or riding over rough or hard ground.

Sorry I don't have any pictures.

[dancinglite]

B C

You don't have the whole story nor do they.They have NO IDEA what I had to go through so don't judge based on what other people state when they have their own personal adgenda.

By the way he has been at 4 different stables in the last 6 months.

[Boston Chicken]

You're right. I definitely don't have the story - nor do I want the story. I don't know about the barn, trainer, etc. I was only reacting to what you posted on another board (that was pointed out to me). No back story needed.

Of course, with your horse in mind, I hope he feels better soon.

[Lisa Cook]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>During the time from July to about month ago he was under the care of a "trainer" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>By the way he has been at 4 different stables in the last 6 months. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your trainer changed barns 4 times in 6 months?! Didn't that concern you?

[Karosel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pocket Pony:
What are corns and does anyone have a picture so I could see what they look like? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I second that.

[Draygonfyne]

http://www.liphookequinehosp.co.uk/llcorns.htm
They sound more like bruises than what we would associate with corns on us folk....but I myself have never had experience with them.

And Lisa, the trainer has not moved. Dancinglite has moved her stallion two or three times in the last month since leaving the trainer's.

[Karosel]

Thanks for the link DF. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Boston Chicken]

Let me try to describe Faune's corn, as I didn't get a chance to take a photo tonight. He had what looked like a small indentation in his sole, so the new farrier pressed on it and it opened up. It looked like a hole in his sole - about a 1/4 inch wide and not too deep. It bled quite a bit and made him head bobbing lame at first. We soaked him and wrapped him daily while he was on stall rest with only handwalking. It literally took 2 months to grow out and toughen up. He's getting his shoe back on tomorrow so we can go back to work finally. Lots of muscle loss over the last 2 months so I suspect the abscessed corn will be the least of our worries. But, I am just so glad he'll get turnout again!

[LE]

I think getting the farrier out is best. I've never had to deal with corns, so I can't give you any first hand advice. Definetly a call for the farrier/vet for what to do and how to manage/maintain.

As for the other comments, I am sadden by them. This is the time of year to be thankful and happy. Why people see fit to bring things up, on a post that has nothing to do with anything else other than a horse having corns, is sad. Why do you all think there is so much road rage, shopping rage et al? Why can't we be civil on a freaking internet forum?? If you don't get a long with someone, why bother making such snide remarks?

I see nothing wrong with the post. If someone feels their horse was improperly cared for , they have a right to state so. They have not named any barn or person, and if the horse is in bad shape, would that not imply the horse was not cared for correctly?

And what does moving the horse have to do with the fact he has corns? I've known people who moved their horse every month. Sometimes, people in this industry are difficult to get a long with and it is best to just move on. If you read these posts here, there is a sure indication of kind people and not so geninue people.

And, for the last time, if an owner wants to BBQ and eat their horse, that is their right. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make them a bad person. People have a right to make choices. Deal with it and move on.

Have any of you ever felt so frustrated and hopeless you thought outloud and regreted it?

Ye who have commited no sin, cast the first stone.

Happy Holidays

[Adelita]

Ohhhh...*light bulb goes on*

Well then.

Let me just say that my mare developed corns when she was in NO WORK WHATSOEVER. None.

[DutchOwner]

Posted by Dancing Lite "You have to make a decision that is in your best interests--we all do. Mine is slated to be destroyed Nov. 13, 2004."

"yes he going to the happy hunting grounds.

I cannot afford to support him any longer."

Reference: http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/showthread.php?t=20429&page=4&pp=10

Just in case anyone is confused. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[nhwr]

If your horse's feet hadn't be done for 9 months http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif and you were at this training facility for 5 months, your horse's feet were months overdue when you arrived at this facility. If you were visiting every week, how is it that the situation got so bad? Didn't you notice what was going on? Why were you talking about putting the horse down instead of selling him? Does he have some sort of chronic problem? How long has he been off? And how is "off" different from "lame"?

Facilities are often reluctant to commit owners to expenses they don't specifically ask for when the owner is know to be struggling financially. It is never realistic to think that any trainer will take better care of your horse than you will. Did you ask for a farrier to service your horse? Were you paying for farrier work? It doesn't really seem right to blame them for the care when you gave it your tacit approval on a weekly basis http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

[dancinglite]

Posted by Erin Oct 29, 2004

I want everyone to keep those words in mind when they post.

And I would also like everyone to help remind OTHERS when they start to stray from that. That is not to say that you can't disagree and be critical, but it means that you must do so like a rational human being.

We will likely be making some changes on this forum, but I'm going to go ahead and reopen it now while the moderators and I hash out what those will be.

One thing I can tell you is that I will not hesitate to put this forum on lockdown again in the future if free-for-alls break out. It's a hell of a lot easier for me to just click one button and shut this forum off and let you all cool your heels for a day than it is to wade into the mudslinging and try to make people act their age.

I'm sorry that doing that also punishes those of you who don't participate, but hopefully peer pressure will be yet another way to keep the troublemakers in line.

For those of you who have been bringing personal issues with other posters onto the BB repeatedly over the last several months, consider yourselves on notice. The moderators' and my tolerance for that is now officially at ZERO. Consider that before you try to slide in a subtle jab that you don't think will be "too far" over the line. The repercussions of that might surprise you.

Thanks for everyone's patience, and again, I'm sorry that so many of you who did nothing wrong had to be without your forum for a day.


I have already contacted Erin and perfectly willing to sling a bit of mud your way but I don't feel like stooping so low. You guys obviously want this board shut down again.

First of all, the horse would be in better hands being put down than in the hands of certain EMG posters that backed some of the inquires that "wanted to take the horse off my hands".

I saw what happened to one of my horses that I sold some time back and the way he was treated and I swore then that I would rather put a horse down than have it go to where care could not be guaranteed.

As LE stated --he is MY horse and MY choice--it is none of your business.

To the poster that stated I was talked out of it---nothing is farther from the truth, but again--none of your business.

I have moved him a couple of times basically so he, I and the barn owner where he is now will not be harrassed by the "those certain people" who have taken great joy in doing this. Maybe you should get a life and actually ride your horses.

nhwr

No where did I say he has had no care relating to his feet in 9 months. What I said is that he has been barefoot in the back in the last 9 months.

[Karosel]

Ahh so what you would be doing is a mercy kill? How commendable.... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Im sure if you looked hard enough you could find a proper home for him... might involve gelding him though.

[nhwr]

dancinglite,


I notice you respond to things in a fairly selective manner http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

A suggestion however;

No one here is butting into your business. You are posting on a public forum. If you don't like your feet being held to the fire about what you post, don't give out the infomation.

[dancinglite]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nhwr:
dancinglite,


I notice you respond to things in a fairly selective manner http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

A suggestion however;

No one here is butting into your business. You are posting on a public forum. If you don't like your feet being held to the fire about what you post, don't give out the infomation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If the thread stayed on topic there would not be any selection.

And if the snarky posters cannot stay on topic then this thread will be shut down.

[DMK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dancinglite:
And if the snarky posters cannot stay on topic then this thread will be shut down. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry? I'm confused. I wasn't aware Erin was looking to hire additional moderators. Who knew?

Not the least of which is the perfectly OBVIOUS observation that if the mods shut down topics that didn't stay on point, the entire board would have ceased to exist years ago! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I mean how the hell do you think numping, finging, beaver drilling, baby carrots, quiches and lord knows what other diversions were started? Someone started a thread on them? Yea, right.

[dancinglite]

If I am such a bad person I am sure I could get you to jump up and down with glee if I were gone.

[Erin]

Um, dancinglite, that thread you quoted was in reference to the SHB forum... those people are a whole 'nother kettle of whackjobs, and that has ZERO to do with what's going on on this thread.

You quite obviously missed the entire point of my reply to your PT yesterday. YOU set the tone of this topic with your swipes at your previous barn/trainer/whoever else happened to be in the vicinity. Had you simply asked about corns, I doubt the topic would have taken this turn. But you didn't, and it did, and now you want the moderators to rescue you from the bed you made.

Sink or swim, babe. Sink or swim.

Now... can y'all go back to discussing corns please? Thanks.

[Quinn]

Speaking of which, I absolutely love making chili with creamed corn. I know that sounds bizarre but you simply must try it. You know those crazy Canucks. Anyone who puts cheese curds and gravy on fries must be nuts. And now I'll just apologize because I am Canadian.

**note to self, it is CREAMED corn and not CREAM. Damn, I was looking so intelligent too.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

[DMK]

Quinn, if it makes you feel better, I put sweet relish in pinto bean soup (made with ham hocks). It's a southern thang (we too apologize for our food http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif )

[Pocket Pony]

I only like corn on the cob. I won't eat anything that has kernels of corn in it. Corn soup? Yuck. Well, I do like corn muffins, too. But only if there are no kernels of corn in it.

[HeyYouNags]

Creamed horse corns sounds really nasty. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

Maybe the chili powder kills the taste. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[SunshineGA]

PP- I am the same way and my SO thinks I am crazy.

Corn on the cob is totally different than creamed corn, or frozen corn, or corn in soup or corn in salad (who the hell thought of THAT? yuck)

Corn muffins are scrumptious though.

[Erin]

One of my favorite restaurants in Ithaca, NY, (The Chariot in Collegetown for any locals) has these absolutely SCRUMPTIOUS corn nuggets. Basically, they're deep fried balls of creamed corn. Ooooh, they are SO good!

I don't think PP or SunshineGA would like them, though. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

[Bea]

The Chariot now has corn nuggets?! Eaten alongside their yummy deep dish pizza? Am I stuck in a '80s Ithaca time warp or are college students eating really bizarrely these days. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I love corn, in all ways. Including the raw corn in the sweet feed when I was a child. Handful of sweet feed for the horse, handful of sweet feed for me. Handful of sweet feed for the horse, handful of sweet feed for me. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Erin]

BTW, dl, you DO realize you don't have to keep sending me new PTs, I hope? And before you complain that I didn't respond, make sure you know how to check them... click on the "Go" tab up above, then on "MySpace," then on "private messaging." You'll see all three of the PTs you sent me listed there with replies. And you can reply to them as well.

[Erin]

Bea, the corn nuggets have been there since the early 90s. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif Gawd, I'm getting old. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

Will you send me some for xmas? They are especially good with Saranac Black Forest Ale. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[nhwr]

I have a great and easy recipe for corn chowder;

Cook 6 to 8 strips of bacon

Remove bacon, set aside to cool. When bacon is cool, crumble it into small pieces. Reserve 2 tablespoons of bacon fat and use it to sautee 2 large onions.

In a large soup pot, mixe together 6 cups of chicken broth, onions and 2 cans of creamed corn.

Peel and dice into small cubes 3 large potatoes.

Peel 4 large carrots, slice into soup appropriate size.

Add potatoes and carrots, bring soup to a boil then reduce heat. Let simmer for about 1 hour. Add 1 and a half cups of milk to mixure and heat for 15 more minutes. DO NOT ALLOW SOUP TO COME TO A BOIL after milk has been added. If you want to decadent, you can use cream instead of milk. Add salt to taste.

Serve into bowls. Sprinkle some crumbled bacon on the top. If you like spicy, a dash of Tabasco is great.

Even better as leftovers http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

I think I'll make some tonight.

I used to loff corn fritters with sweet and spicy chinese mustard.... I am drooling just thinking about them.

[vxf111]

not to bring the thread down with seriousness but I am curious-- the descriptions of the corns make them sound a lot like an abscess on the sole. How are they different?

[Quinn]

vxf111, not to be rude but how is your question related to recipes. More to the point, CREAMED CORN recipes. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

[vxf111]

You're right Quinn, WHAT was I thinkin?! Allow me to get us back on track...

Soft Corn Casserole Mexican Style
1 can corn
1 can creamed corn
1 box jiffy cornbread/muffin mix
2 TBSP sliced, jarred jalepeno peppers (or more or less to your preference)
1/4 cup salsa
1 cup sour cream
1/2 cup butter

Melt butter. Combine with corn, creamed corn, sour cream, and salsa. Add muffin mix. When combined, gently fold in peppers. Pour into a pyrex dish and bake for 45 minutes- 50 minutes at 375, stirring once in between. Remove when casserole is still slightly soft. Serve warm with sour cream on top.

But seriously, are corns the same as abscesses or is this something different? I am curious because 2 years ago my horse had an abscess which wasn't quite like a typical abscess and took longer to resolve. Now I am wondering if it could have been a corn?

[dancinglite]

Well since Erin suggested I take plan B, I shall and at least I won't have anyone looking over my shoulder.

[Boston Chicken]

What's Plan B?

vxf - it could have been a corn. My horse's abscessed corn (whatever that is) took 2 months to resolve (like I said) and though it looked like a "run of the mill" abscess, it wasn't and sure didn't act like one. I won't be able to take pictures tonight as they are putting his snow shoes and pads on, but it was literally like a divet in his sole.

[Erin]

I didn't suggest you do anything other than act like an adult and think about what you post on the internet.

Am I to understand from your PT that plan B is putting the horse down?

And before you do something that rash just to get back at a bunch of people on the internet, why don't you actually try some of what has been suggested here? I don't think corns are necessarily fatal.

There are plenty of posters here who are in Toronto and could probably offer help in person, you know.

[happy mouth]

Oh God, I just ate lunch and I am salivating!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Corn bread, jalapenos, melting cheese and sour cream. Where is my chef?

[Bea]

Yum! Great recipes! One question. vxf111, you stir after it's in the oven? I'm definitely going to try this one. And I don't want to mess with perfection by mistake. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[happy mouth]

vxf111, big or small cans of corn? I've done something a little similar with added chopped onion and 2 beaten eggs.

[Roxy Redhead]

DL, guess that would show everyone huh?

And you wondered why people are snipping at you ... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[vxf111]

After the casserole has been cooking for about 25 minutes, pull it out and stir it, not heavily, just enough to mix and get the soft/uncooked part exposed. Some people cook the casserole closer to an hour and that gives you a firmer texture, but I like it a little loose, like a pudding and 45 gets you that. You could also sprinkle cheese on top for the last 5-7 minutes of baking, I bet that'd be good too. I *love* this casserole (it's so easy) and it's a real crowd pleaser.

[Boston Chicken]

DL - honestly, I am usually pretty tame on these threads, but this has got to be one of the most selfish things I have ever heard.

You have an animal that you presumably have affection for yet because of circumstances, you *may* put him down without trying to find a good home for him or selling him? And moreover, you'll do it to spite people on a frikkin BB?

I hope I have misunderstood...otherwise, where is the logic in this???

I understand he is your horse and you will do with him what you please, but 10 posts ago you were looking for advice on how to treat his corns!!!!

Please clarify or let's just get back to talking about corn foods.

[vxf111]

Didn't realize canned corn came in sizes?! I'd say the cans are probably 8oz. Whatever the standard size is.

[Dancing Lawn]

MMMMMM! I was just directed to this thread for the RECIPES!!! Now, I'm starving, I just came in from the freezing cold wind and snow, after putting the horses in the barn, and I DON'T HAVE ANY CREAMED CORN IN THE HOUSE!
Grossly unfair, I call that.

By the way, I hope Plan B is a different Plan B from when DancingLite was at my house! There were people offering to BUY the horse, and I, of course, being a horse rescue, have access to a couple of very good sanctuaries he could go, permanently.

All refused.

So, I guess curing corns is a moot point. We'll stay tuned, and hope for good news.

[Lisamarie8]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dancinglite:
Well since Erin suggested I take plan B, I shall and at least I won't have anyone looking over my shoulder. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looking over your shoulder for what? the men with those white jackets that tie in the back? I hate to break it to you but in this particular case, just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they shouldn't be out to get you.

I can't even fathom the thought process that leads to: I love this perfectly healthy and happy horse...so i must kill him immediately. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

Erin, i know i'll probably get a demerit... but i think this particular instance calls for a robust and healthy:

loony loony loony

[Black Market Radio]

Maybe her and MJ can share a room at the mental ward... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

[Beezer]

I dunno, Erin.

I think that given that the OP owns a stallion that supposedly stands at stud and now she's talking (again) about putting him down since he has corns and it would be a mercy killing since she is the only one who can give him the loving care he deserves, she qualifies as a card-carrying member of that "whole 'nother kettle of whackjobs." http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

[DMK]

Now Beezer, are you implying that this poster has posted on the wrong forum? That, indeed, there is a forum more suited to her special talents? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I think you may be on to something. As ever, I bow to your infintely wise self. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[Lookout]

Other people don't look over YOUR shoulder. You look over your OWN shoulder, for someone coming up from behind. Get your metaphors straight.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dancinglite:
Well since Erin suggested I take plan B, I shall and at least I won't have anyone looking over my shoulder. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Erin]

Guys, if you're going to be catty, I'll close this. Knock it off. It's not productive.

dancinglite, in all seriousness, why don't you ask for -- and accept -- some HELP before putting a horse down?

Certainly there are many completely valid reasons why someone would choose to have a horse euthanized, and in the end, an owner can euthanize simply because he or she feels like it -- the animal is their property.

But come on, look at the threads posted on these forums every day. I think it's plenty obvious that the vast majority of posters don't take euthanizing a horse lightly, or consider it anything but a last resort in a hopeless case. To act indignant when people are offended that you would apparently put down a horse primarily for monetary reasons... well, it's not like you didn't know what you were getting into posting in front of this crowd. Throwing a hissy fit about it seems a little self-indulgent.

It may very well be that the horse needs expensive and extensive care that would be a financial burden... but most people would try to find other solutions first. And when a poster can go from "how can I treat these corns" to "I'm just going to put the horse down" in the span of a day, that doesn't make it seem as though much forethought has gone into it.

So, dancinglite, why don't you see if the kind folks at COTH can brainstorm other ideas for you? Otherwise, I think you'll have a future of nothing but closed threads to look forward to, because I can't imagine posters here will ever be willing to engage in friendly conversation with you. And you're fast running out of BBs to post on...

[Rocky]

Erin...well said...as usual...

But I am afraid that you are "preaching to the choir" here...

[Adelita]

"Sink or swim, babe. Sink or swim."

Erin, I just love you! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Never one to mince words, eh?

[Galileo1998]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erin:
Throwing a hissy fit about it seems a little self-indulgent.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To say that Dancinglite is prone to throwing hissy fits that are a little self-indulgent is kind of like saying that British people like to drink a little tea.

What you are proposing to do to that poor horse is murder, pure and simple. You have had other options and you are refusing to take them. You I really honestly don't give a toss about, but I feel terrible for the poor horse.

Bottom line though if you're going to do it there is nothing any of us can do to stop you. We can just look on in disgust and revulsion as you play out your latest drama. Just don't act all shocked when the people of COTH don't support this crap. Many of us have been to hell and back trying to keep a horse alive, or have had to make the heart breaking decision to let a loved horse go to prevent suffering - you'll get no sympathy for your selfish act here.

[LE]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif This is truely sad. Some one comes here to state a problem, and they get recipies. First off, cream corn is GROSS.

More importantly, I fail to see why posters feel that flaming is pertienent to this topic, and even more so, to see a moderator join is makes me happy I don't frequent this BB.

LAdies, what is lacking in your life that you need to put forth some much animosity to someone you don't know? Would your families be happy you do this? Parents? Grandparents?

This is a special time of year where people are supposed to gather together and think about others. To be selfless and let things go. Maybe none of you know what the true meaning of Christmas is. Maybe you all have to watch a loved one die in order to get it.

Dancinglite obviously possess something you all want. A very wise person said people who put forth this much energy into something, have feelings of angery/hositility, which stems from jealousy. And before you make snide comments on who said this, I'd think twice, because that gentleman turned 91 this year.

Happy Holidays all. Maybe rethink your values in life.

[PiedPiper]

LE-

You are missing a wealth of information that is the reasoning to the posts from fellow COTHers to DL. I think you should do a little research, since the reasons have been alluded to, before you get so holier than thou.

Knowing the whole history I think you find that even the moderator is being very "restrained".

Get the history before start reprimanding everyone.

[arcadia]

LE I will have to disagree with you on this.
DL is threatening to put a horse down, it has popped up on several boards. Since there are many people like me who have either rescused a horse from that fate or simply keep their oldies around because we owe them that much, hearing her threats are a very bitter pill to swallow.
There are so many other options. Give him away, geld him, offer him at more realistic price than 35K.
To state that it's nobody's business is wrong, she MADE it our business by posting it on a public board.
Just be careful of who you defend as people are judged by the company they keep.
There is no excuse for putting down a healthy, sound horse. None.

[nhwr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> LAdies, what is lacking in your life ...? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LE, one can never have too many good recipes http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I think it it pretty sad to say that people who put energy into something are motivated by jealosy. That might ring true for you, but it does for me. I put energy into things that I think are interesting, beneficial, worthwhile or need attention. I think the idea that a person thinks it is OK to destroy an animal because of their own vanity is something that needs attention.

[Dancing Lawn]

I LOVE to cook! that's whe someone else pointed out this thread to me!! Nothing like a steaming bowl of corn chowder on a snowy day, when you come in from the barn!!!

And, LE, some of us have had the total Dancing Lite experience, it isn't like she's a stranger. I think corns are the least of his issues.
Since none of my horses have ever had corns, this has been a good thread to learn from. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Louise]

Guys, check out LE's occupation on his/her Public Profile.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Annoying all people on message boards <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Somebody just might be trying to stir things up a bit.

So, lets not all go into full attack mode, just let it slide.

[HeyYouNags]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Some one comes here to state a problem, and they get recipies <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Once I posted a recipe, and got answers to all my problems.

Interesting the way that worked. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Quinn]

Jeez, Louise you sleuth you. A light just went on! Apparently quite good at what she does too. Our very own EMG board (Canadian) has asked this individual to take a time out and stand in the corner. Aha, back to the scheduled program.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

[Boston Chicken]

LE - if you're going for Jewish guilt, Hanukkah is over http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think the comments on this thread demonstrate quite the opposite of jealousy, animosity, etc. It's clear to me that people here care deeply about horses - and this horse, in this situation, at this moment.

I mean come on, how is posting a topic about needing advice on treating corns and then implying that instead of treating the horse's corns, ending his life might be preferable in the "holiday spirit?" Is DL showing this seasonal "selflessness" you talk about in your post? Getting from corns to where we are now is not only a huge leap from one to the other, it's eerily "Sybilish."

Edited to add - I don't think I am contributing anything terribly worthwhile to this thread...so does anyone have a good corn bread recipe?

[Quinn]

Not a good cornbread recipe but a very important cornbread hint. NEVER serve it cold. I made a delightful batch of cornbread on a first attempt. I was so proud of the outcome I took it to the office the next day and invited, no encouraged everyone to have a big piece.

When I went home that evening I cut myself a slab and just about barfed. Tastes like crap the next day cold. And weighs in somewhere around where an anchor might. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I don't bring culinery delights to work now.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

[jumper11]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LE:
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif This is truely sad. Some one comes here to state a problem, and they get recipies. First off, cream corn is GROSS.

More importantly, I fail to see why posters feel that flaming is pertienent to this topic, and even more so, to see a moderator join is makes me happy I don't frequent this BB.

LAdies, what is lacking in your life that you need to put forth some much animosity to someone you don't know? Would your families be happy you do this? Parents? Grandparents?

This is a special time of year where people are supposed to gather together and think about others. To be selfless and let things go. Maybe none of you know what the true meaning of Christmas is. Maybe you all have to watch a loved one die in order to get it.

Dancinglite obviously possess something you all want. A very wise person said people who put forth this much energy into something, have feelings of angery/hositility, which stems from jealousy. And before you make snide comments on who said this, I'd think twice, because that gentleman turned 91 this year.

Happy Holidays all. Maybe rethink your values in life. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif LE your post makes me happy I don't have to read your opinion frequently on this BB either. ta ta....

[Roxy Redhead]

Ever had Trader Joe's boxed corn bread mix?? I LOVE IT!! It's really yummy ... great when you just want something quick ... and CHEAP!

[Karosel]

Anyone ever had barbequed corn on the cob? Its very good, but I still prefer plain ol' boiled corn on the cob. Corn on the cob is the ONLY good way to eat corn. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Yowsa]

All I have to say is this:
Jimmy cracked corn, and I don't care.

No good recipes, but has anyone ever eaten at Z'Tejas? MAN do they have good corn bread!!

My vacation next year at the Corn Palace (http://www.agilitynut.com/cornpalace.html)

[Roxy Redhead]

Yup I've done the ol' BBQ corn ... soak it in beer, throw it on the grill, and boy is it good!

[DutchOwner]

I used to work at a roasted corn stand! It was called Friar Tuck's...and the owner would "encourage" us to come up with corny (hehe) catchphrases to induce people to come buy our corn.

"Don't be forlorn, buy some corn!" "Roasted corn is so yummy, get some now for your tummy!" "For just two bucks, corn at Friar Tucks!"

Yeah, we had to yell these nice little phrases, loudly, in crowded areas. Occasionally she made us take buckets of roasted corn out into the fair; bringing corn to the people. Usually, this was towards the end of the day, and we were encapsulated in a thin film of butter that seemed to hover in the air in the corn tent. Ugh. Worst. Job. Ever. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[Coreene]

Try the "corn nuts" at Trader Joe's. They make the original Corn Nuts seem like - well, actually I never have the original ones. These are butter flavored, very salty and all that good stuff that's jes' no good for ya.

So, let's review. We have:

corndogs
cornbread
corn nuts
caramel corn
candy corn
popcorn
corn on the cob
creamed corn
roasted corn
corny jokes
corns on yer feet
kettle corn
corn threads

[Dancing Lawn]

And of course we all know that food makes everything better!

I have a beautiful corn-stick pan, cast iron, with all the little corn kernels very nicely molded in. Makes your cornsticks look like real (sort of) corn cobs! No recipe, sorry.

To get sort of back on topic, Treasure the rescued horse, has an abcess. It's draining, and he has a nice hole in the sole of his foot.
He has heaves, is terribly underweight, has a club foot, and a slightly deformed leg.

Maybe I should have HIM put down? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

He's quite happy, he eats, he goes out, he comes in. He has a blanket. He has a friend. What more could a horse ask for. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Draygonfyne]

Hey Karosel...do you get your corn from Chappell's? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think I used to live near you......5th line.....north of Mill St. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Heidi]

Dutch Owner,

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> bringing corn to the people. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would like to nominate you as the patron saint of corn.

And call me silly, but if you can afford a spiffy website to promote your stallion, surely, one could cough up some dough to call out the vet. Do hope that karma's taking notes and preparing a just revenge.

[Coreene]

Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon, you come and go, you come and goooooooooo.

[Dancing Lawn]

Bringing corn to the people, and a cob in every pot! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Karosel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Draygonfyne:
Hey Karosel...do you get your corn from Chappell's? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think I used to live near you......5th line.....north of Mill St. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy F! I live on the 3rd off of Mill st. Right on the dead end (both farms on each side of the road are my dad's). Did you ever drive down it? There is a great view- we look down on Copelands forest. Pics are in my webshots.

No we usually buy our corn from Browns or Birch's. Browns in on HWY 93 and Birch's is on the 4th of Flos.

[Happy Times]

I don't post very often as I mostly just read but are you aware that there are people out there on another BB that are commenting on the childishness of the posters on this BB?

ie
Quote{There are a lot of assholes out there, just try to put them out of your mind and remember the good people in the world The jerks aren't worth a second of your time} Quote

[Roxy Redhead]

Kewl! Which one is that HT??

[Karosel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Happy Times:
I don't post very often as I mostly just read but are you aware that there are people out there on another BB that are commenting on the childishness of the posters on this BB?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So? Since when do we care what other BB's think?

[Dancing Lawn]

Yes, we like to egg them on! could you then say, they're "roasting" us??? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif
Bring on the corn chips!
Bring on the salsa!
It's been a boring day, can you tell?
Poor old Treasure just had his foot soaked in epsom salts, and I think it's doing better. He's not so sore as he was, and it's still draining. He's wearing TWO blankets, and watched intently as I replaced two panels of metal siding that were being blown off the barn wall!! (yes, it's that windy!)

[Happy Times]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Katy White:
Kewl! Which one is that HT?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think naming the BB would be fair.

I only mentioned this because I myself am aghasted at the level of childishness from the people on this board.This is one of the reasons I rarely post and just reading the posts seems to be the safest way to keep away from the circling sharks that seem to abound on this and other BBs

Thanks for listening to my 2 cents worth and I am going to go back to just reading and remain safe.

[nhwr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I only mentioned this because I myself am aghasted at the level of childishness from the people on this board. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Happy Times,

I think you must have your boards cornfused http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[HuntJumpSC]

Let's see now...

Fried corn, boiled corn, corn scampi, corn creole, corn kabobs, corn & grits....no wait, that's shrimp! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Carry on then.... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

[Pocket Pony]

Mmmm, grits. I like mine cheesy.

And I think the word is "aghast", not "aghasted". Since we're being childish and all... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Beezer]

Have any of you tried the chocolate-covered Orville Redenbacher popcorn? It's called some fancy-schmancy name and comes in a fancy-schmancy box but it is to die for. YUM.

[Coreene]

I thought "aghasted" was when you unexpectedly let one slip out. You know, "He was walking behind me when I accidentally aghasted him."

[Equuleus]

Sadly DL has chosen to seek other advice about her corns:

http://wwwarmbloods.com/forums/gen/posts/5111.html

[LE]

Thank you Happy Times.

Arcadia--there is a lot more that meets they eye here. I've worked with several rescues myself and know a lot more than those here. Feel free to email me. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I do respect your position and I would also be aghast if someone just all of a sudden said they were putting a healthy animal down for no reason.

What saddens me is the pack mentality on this thread, including mods. Louise, my information was written as a joke. I don't feel I owe people any description of who I really am, as this thread is somewhat of a typification of why I don't feel the need to truly broadcast who I am.

This is a rough time of year for me and my family. Maybe if you watched a love one die on Christmas day, you would realize there is more to life than forums ,pettiness and small mindedness.

Dancinglite--plan B is the best idea.

Happy Holidays

[Draygonfyne]

Karosel....I know where you live (I feel like I should be giving an evil laugh while I say that). http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif They just put the horrible 4 way stop in there that catches me all the time!

My parents live just down the road from Brown's. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Shoot me a pt and we can talk more! (wouldn't want to ruin a good corn thread)

[Coreene]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LE:
Maybe if you watched a love one die on Christmas day <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I did. Christmas Day 1987. Sorry if it is rough for you, but that's no reason to make what you went through on Xmas a reason why you might be better than the rest. Believe me, 99% of the people on this BB, including the ones who posted on this thread, would give someone the shirt off their back if it would help another.

This thread opened an unnecessary can of worms. Deserving of an aghasting.

[LE]

Corene, my condolences for your loss.

I just find for myself, things like this are just ridiculious. Don't you find it stupid to bother a stranger?

That's my point. Christmas is about giving and helping and doing random acts of kindness.

How can we do that when we can't be civil on an internet bb?

[nhwr]

Coreene,

aghasted would be the ghasee not the ghasser http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

LE,

I, too, am sorry that Christmas is a hard time of year for you. I had a close family member die on Easter. How is that for irony? But it has no affect on my feelings about putting a horse down for no real reason, specious allegations or good recipes.

[onetempies]

Another here who has had to watch my mare go through the whole corn, abscess, bruising saga. HA! I said WHOLE CORN. Not fun... it did help a bit when my farrier cut the corn out. Now we keep shoes and pads on her front feet year round.

The reason for the corns popping up? Colic surgery. In fact, colic surgery x2... once in Feb 2001 and another Sept 2003. Hmm... said mare is still here with me today...

Oh & Coreene... thanks... now I have George Michael's voice screaming in my head! ACK!

We need a banging head on wall icon... that would be oh so fitting.

As far as corn goes... I loff corn on the cob, BBQ style nicely gooped up in butter before wrapped in foil and placed on grill! YUMMMMMMMY!!!! Krispy Style Corn is the best canned corn too. Popcorn? I loff Corn on the cob popcorn. Mmmmmmmmm.....

[Draygonfyne]

Onetempies...you mean Boy George, don't you?

Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon......http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[helen elizabeth]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LE:
Don't you find it stupid to bother a stranger?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do you not feel stupid for defending a horse killer? Would your opinion be different if it WAS NOT christmas season? How is DL doing an act of kindness by taking this horse's life away? Does this horse not diserve the chance to live a fulfilling life and Lord willing die of old age? What about the horse's side?
"I'm sorry honey, you have corns and I can not really stand to see you in someone else's hands so I am going to kill you, even though you are perfectly healthy, a nice stallion who might bring some nice babys into this world and possibly make someone's riding dream come true."
I cry for this horse. It is not fair to him.

[onetempies]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Draygonfyne:
Onetempies...you mean Boy George, don't you?

Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon......http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DF... yeah, but I had to quickly put Boy George out of my head and the whole George connection lead to George Michael. So I went from Culture Club to Wham. ACK! I'm having flashbacks... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[SoEasy]

or from the sublime to the ridiculous?
are we finished yet?

[helen elizabeth]

Not yet, still waiting on that great cornbread recipe!

[horse_poor]

Egads! I have not had much time on the BB as of late and a phone call from an aghasted friend on the West coast called me to alert me to this thread....

WHY you ask?

Because I lived for about 14 years of my life in IOWA!

So therefore I am the corn queen!!!!!!

Sadly the best corn recipe I have besides corn on the BBQ is corn bread...out of the Jiffy box. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

and FWIW......on that awful day I sent my dear Aero to the Bridge, the vet told me, and I qoute "There is no law saying I have to put your horse down just because you want him to put down...." in response to my question about whether it was the right thing to do. In fact, she has a few horses she took when the owners wanted them put down because the owner did not care/could not afford them....

Dancing Lite, I do not know you but I have to say if you are even considering putting a horse down due to corns.....you should be ashamed....I had to put Aero down after fighting a long hard battle with Cushings and a body full of Arthritis...I sacraficed just about everything I had to make sure he received the utmost of care and kept as comfortable as he could be and when every possible solution had been tried and failed only then did euthanasia become an option. If only we had to deal with corns, my life would have been easier and Aero would still be here with me.

I hope your horse finds an owner that truely cherishes and adores him the way every horse deserves.

This just irks me more than I thought it would....there are those of us scrambling to make our horses whole again or at least find some sort of solution to the symptoms.....and here you are whining about corns?????????? what the fruitbat is wrong with you? you expect empathy and sympathy from those of us in this group? Keep looking....

And LE I am sorry you "had to watch someone die on Xmas", however how do you think a thread like this makes us feel who fought tooth and nail for our horses fighting debilitating diseases such as Cushings and Founder and Arthritis and ended up having to let them go when the solutions were no longer to be found and our horses told us "no more"?

As Erin said, some of us do not take euthanasia lightly even though in the end it is the best option...but only after the measures taken have already been addressed. And some of us will suggest it when nothing previously tried is working....and it is a hard suggestion to give and to take....but it is not one to be taken lightly....or as a quick fix. But in the end, it is the ultimate gift to give to a horse WHEN HE TELLS YOU IT IS TIME. I have yet to meet a horse that says "I have corns so I need to go to the bridge"

Bottom line--if you do not want the horse, let someone who does take it---

Ok i have to quit before I get myself even more wound up...perhaps I will try to find some good cornbread recipes and report back

[Lookout]

Reminds me of the world famous phrase uttered by Philadelphia's ex-mayor Wilson Goodey: "my mind is boggled".

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
And I think the word is "aghast", not "aghasted". Since we're being childish and all... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Happy Times]

I was just going to walk away and leave the mentally challenged posters on this thread to act out their fantasies but you have made me so upset that I had to say something.

Having been the product of the instreet and school bullying in my younger years and sitting at home crying my eyes out wishing I was dead and now later in life reading and hearing the news stories of teenage kids hanging themselves or in some way doing themselves in because of the harrasment and constant bullying they suffered in school that it makes me sad that everyone is acting in the same manner.
Teenagers are not the only ones that end up contemplating suicide, grown people do also.

I am sure that even this serious paragraph will be twisted around to make a big joke out of it and that to me shows just how small minded and cold most of the posters on this thread are.

At this time of the year I simply can't understand the mentality that seems to abound here.

All I can say is that I hope that I never end up as a stranger on the side of the road in distress when one of you pass by. I am sure I would be kicked into the gutter without a second thought.

[A. Roose]

Happy Times, it would seem that you are need of paying some attention to your own signon.

No one here is doing anything other than pointing our the hypocrisy of the OP. It certainly is a far cry from bullying -- of which I, too, have been a victim, as I would hazard a guess so have pretty much any gangly teenage girl more interested in horses than boys.

If the difference escapes you, then I would humbly suggest that you are not doing yourself and your psyche any good by continuing to read the thread. The OP needed and continues to need a few good thwacks upside the head with Aunt Esther's purse. No one is aiming any of them in your direction, unless, of course, you're the OP. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now, as for that whole side-of-the-road hyperbole, I'm sure the vast majority of us wouldn't kick you into the gutter. Unless, of course, you did something to deserve it -- like threaten to put a perfectly healthy horse to sleep.

[Dancing Lawn]

i've gotta jump in here, again. Sorry.

Happy times, I was the victim of bullying as a child. so I KNOW how it works. What we're doing here is a far cry from bullying. We don't even come CLOSE to bullying.We are making an attempt to change DancingLites mindset. (probably having no effect, though. Remember, I've MET the woman.)There is nothing wrong with the horse. There are people who would take him in, in a heartbeat. He has places to go, he would'nt be abandoned.

LE, I AM A HORSE RESCUE. how is it, that I and several other horse rescues that I know, have never met you, and have NO IDEA who you really are? Put your money where your mouth is, Honey, and come on out and work with some REAL rescued horses.
come out any time. Go to my website, there's a map. It's easy to get to, from where you live.

[Yowsa]

Okay- I've read every post on here- and I'm afraid I can't see where aghastly bullying is being done?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I wish kids bullied me when I was in school by giving me corn recipes. Childhood would have been much easier.

The way I see it the point of this post is 3-fold 1 Corns 2 Saving a nice stallion from a needless death and 3 Corns If you can't differentiate that from bullying, do yourself a favor and don't read this thread b/c frankly I don't see anything to get huffy about.

I'm very sorry for those who have lost loved ones, and for those who were/are picked on, but lets stick to the thread at hand. I could tell you about my battle with cancer, but frankly I don't see how it would fit here- SOOO
that said:

Why has nobody mentioned POPcorn?

[FalseImpression]

Horse_Poor, I had the same thought as you. You would have to FIND a vet who would want to put the horse down... my small animal vet refuses to put any animal down when there is a way to manage the problem. So she has the owners sign the animal over to the clinic who then cares for the animal and adopts it out. They just did that with a cat with a fractured leg. He just got adopted (and thank God I dodged that bullet ... bad choice of words.. but my daughter really wanted the cat!!!)
Anyway, I do hope that most vets would refuse to put down a healthy animal down and forget about the couple of hundred of $$$ they would make in the process.
Gee, my mare has ringbone... worse than corns since it can't get any better...and I am looking for cheap boarding so I can give her the retirement she deserves... that 'DL" is a lost cause, the other "DL" deserves more help than she gets. Two extremes with the same initials... as long as everybody remembers who is who...
A.

[Erin]

This has to be the oddest thread I've read in a while. Suddenly we've got a small group of Canadian posters (who have never posted much) showing up and going on about loved ones dying on Christmas, bullying, the kindness of strangers, etc. What on EARTH does that have to do with anything??

The point I was trying to make way back on page 3 or so was that you should EXPECT that people on this BB would be in an uproar if a horse was apparently to be put down solely because the owner could not afford to care for him. Do you honestly think someone can post asking for advice on corns, say "Nevermind I'm just going to put him down" a few posts later, and NOT get some kind of reaction?

The majority of people who post on this BB are very kind and generous and always have the horse's best interest at heart. I don't think anyone would be scorned for having to put a horse down because they couldn't afford the colic surgery necessary to save it. But that's not what appears to be going on in this case.

Why, knowing the reaction this issue has brought on OTHER boards, would dancinglite again intimate that she's going to put the horse down, without providing any other info about whatever extenuating circumstances might or might not exist? If she wasn't prepared to provide that information, why would she open the can of worms in the first place? Why wouldn't she just say, "Hey, anyone got suggestions on how to treat corns?"

This topic has actually been pretty civil, considering. And yet here we have LE and Happy Times accusing posters of being jealous and mentally challenged. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

It very well may be that dancinglite has a legitimate reason for putting her horse down that you two are privvy to, while the rest of us aren't. But I sure find it strange that you're so "aghasted" at this thread when I think anyone with a shred of compassion would think that a horse being put down because it has corns -- which, as far as everyone here can tell, is what's going on -- ain't right.

So y'all better just accept that people are going to think what they're going to think, in the absence of new information, and get over it.

And if dancinglite is in such a fragile place psychologically, she shouldn't be posting on BBs, and those of you who know her in real life should be getting her real help, not yelling at people on the internet.

[arcadia]

I agree, most posters on here have huge hearts.
When I had to put my pony down due to Cushings I got PT's, poems, and support with people feeling my pain. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif
But do something bone headed and by George they will tell you. And mostly it is well deserved.

[LE]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

Ugh---here we go again.

First off, for the person who lost their family member on Easter and the one who went through a battle with cancer, my condolences. My reason for bringing this up is that don't you find, after all you went through, that teaming up to annoy a stranger seems really trivial?

Happy Trails--did you get my PM? Thank you for being the only other voice of reason(though Arcadia is doing a good job too!)

First off, I would never euthinize a horse for no reason. I do believe Dancinglite has a reason, and it isn't what you think. IF any of you bothered to speak to her and get to know her, perhaps you would realize what is going on. And that doesn't make her a murderer. Personally, keeping an animal alive that is in chronic pain, can't walk, and is sore and can only stand out in a paddock is cruel in my eyes. The horse I evented for many years was put down due to moon blindness the same year I lost my cat and my stepfather, my mother was diagnosed with Lupus, I had to move suddenly and so forth. I could very easily jump on Dancinglite and say 'how could you?" but I don't, because I know the full story. Nothing that any of you would bother to do, because you are all too busy being gossipy(I say this to the posters who know it is directed to)

Dancinglawn..I have worked with rescue horses for years, but not primarily with a rescue facility. My clients have a high majority of rescues from the track and they have WONDERFUL homes. I don't need to come out to your place to prove my work with horses that I have done. My happiness is in finding homes for horses, finding the right people and barns to help them in their lives. And yes, if a horse is ailing, I will be the voice of reason. I will NEVER tell someone what to do, but suggest. It is ultimatly their descision what to make, and that you have to be content with.

Yes, I feel Dancinglite made an error in voicing what she was thinking of doing online. However, have any of you vented in frustration on a BB? Have you all never made a mistake in speaking before thinking?

Ye who have never sinned, cast the first stone.

Happy Trails---feel free to email me at horsecoach4hire@hotmail.com.

[Pet Psychic]

First of all, I'd like to give Happy Times a break. Some of the posters have become a little attackative here, but only because they were aghasted at Dancing Lite's sentiment that she was considering euthanizing her horse due to corns. To euthanize a horse simply due to corns is, well, enough to make me want to dranken myself into a stupor.

(Use of newly coined COTH "words" meant to instill humor into thread). http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now, as for corns:

Plain, dry corns are a pain-- literally-- to the horse who must endure them and the owner and farrier who must treat them. But for crap's sake, they're not that big of a deal. Get the horse on some soft ground, give him Bute if necessary, and get his feet trimmed and stay off his back until the better hoof grows out.

Now if the corns are "suppurating" that means they're wet corns, and are oozing puss or fluid. Now you've got to do some poulticing and packing (think Epsom salts and iodine). Again, NOT TERMINAL!

Now continue with your regular programming. Meanwhile, I must go walk my corn dog, if I can mustard up the energy. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

[Erin]

LE, you have, again, missed the point. No one here is psychic. If dancinglite chooses not to share the reasons why she is putting her horse down, how is anyone here supposed to know? It's not a matter of "not bothering" to find out. Plenty of people has asked... she's chosen not to answer.

Sure, everyone has said something online they shouldn't have. But most people would say "oops, sorry, I shouldn't have said that" rather than blame others for responding in a way they don't like.

Again, from THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN POSTED, it appears dancinglite is putting her horse down because he has corns. I am quite sure that most horse owners -- no matter how many loved ones they may have lost on Easter or Christmas -- would find that to be a little unsettling. It has nothing to do with "annoying a stranger."

[Erin]

Okay, ALMOST no one here is psychic. Perhaps Pet Psychic knows the top-secret "real" reason why dancinglite wants to put her horse down. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Yowsa]

LE- just a couple things (I am in no way affiliated with ANY of these people) "My reason for bringing this up is that don't you find, after all you went through, that teaming up to annoy a stranger seems really trivial?" <span class="ev_code_PURPLE">I am not teaming up to annoy a stranger. A post about corns will get corn jokes- they are at nobodies expense, just people being goofy. Anything directed at the OP negatively has to do with putting a healthy horse down to save that person $.</span>
"I could very easily jump on Dancinglite and say 'how could you?" but I don't, because I know the full story."<span class="ev_code_PURPLE">Why doesn't anybody tell US so we can quit thinking DL is an evil nag and start to feel sorry for her as you do. I have nothing to go on but what the OP has told us. If there is more to the story it is the OPs responsibility to tell us as she opened up the can of worms. Why post something that makes yourself look like a heartless twit and then run with tail between the legs not giving any explanation? If none of you who "know" the story cares enough to clear DLs name, we will all continue to form our own impressions of the situation based upon what we ARE actually told. Otherwise we will all just be a little cornfused.</span>

[LE]

Erin, after all that's been written, would you want to share with these people? I wouldn't. THere are many variables to people and not everyone is as open, and nor do they have to explain every little thing. I didn't remember reading anything about DL putting her horse down due to corns. That was something a poster snidely commented on after she made the post.

Happy Times--sorry! I got your user name wrong--feel free to email me-horsecoach4hire@hotmail.com

I am glad DL is going with plan B. Best choice all around.

Happy Holidays all.

[BLBGP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I am glad DL is going with plan B. Best choice all around. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Out of curiosity, why is plan B the better option rather than selling him to a good home or donating him to a rescue that can care for his corns?

Feel free to PT me if you don't feel safe to post it here. You will notice that I have stayed entirely out of this thread until now and hopefully can't be lumped in with your anti-COTH sentiments.

[mbamissaz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Quinn:
Not a good cornbread recipe but a very important cornbread hint. NEVER serve it cold. I made a delightful batch of cornbread on a first attempt. I was so proud of the outcome I took it to the office the next day and invited, no encouraged everyone to have a big piece.

When I went home that evening I cut myself a slab and just about barfed.
http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy crap! I just about spit out my lunch reading this! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif My co-worked is now wondering what the hell is so funny about my excel spreadsheet!

[17hTBmare]

Erin, you have the patience of a saint. Blessings upon you.

[RioTex]

OK, so I have a horse with a corn, a grandma that died the day after Christmas and I hate cold cornbread. Can I play?

I have not considered putting down said horse, well until he popped a splint yesterday and now I am thinking...damn free horse.

[Erin]

*banging head against desk*

LE, how would you EXPECT people to react when they believe someone is putting a horse with a completely treatable condition down because they can't afford to treat it??!

Has everyone on this thread been all sweetness and light toward dancinglite... obviously not. But as Yowsa so succinctly put it, she's painting herself to look like a heartless twit. How would you expect people to react to that?

However, since I have more than 58 posts to my credit here, I can pretty much guarantee that IF she were to actually tell people the whole story, MOST of them would likely be sympathetic and supportive and would go out of her way to help her if they could.

I've seen much, much, MUCH worse than what's been posted on this thread, and I'd still not hesititate to post on this BB asking for advice or help if I needed it.

[alabama]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boston Chicken:
Edited to add - I don't think I am contributing anything terribly worthwhile to this thread...so does anyone have a good corn bread recipe? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do you want Mexican cornbread or regular? I have really good recipes for both - but you'll need a iron skillet and you'll have to wait 'til I get home tonight unless you trust my memory (which I don't).

[horsemad!]

LE, I don’t think you’re getting the whole story either. Is this not the same stallion that you emailed a couple of months ago about trying to help find him a home? At that point he was a great dressage prospect and you even said the school you teach for would take him if he wasn’t a stallion… but now he’s in chronic pain, can’t walk, etc.? I don’t think this was the case when he was at Dancing Lawn’s place most recently, or she wouldn’t have been so up in arms about putting him down if it was to end his suffering. It just doesn’t add up. I don’t think someone is being completely up front with you. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

And you can only expect a BB full of horse lovers to jump all over someone who threatens to put down what they perceive (due to info provided) to be a perfectly health horse.

[Dancing Lawn]

LE, HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THIS HORSE?????

I have to wonder, because when he left my place, he was a perfectly healthy, sound, reasonably happy horse. NO SIGN OF LAMENESS, OR POOR HEALTH WHATESOEVER.
He was lunged by his owner. He was ridden by a young girl, IN FRONT OF HIS OWNER for about 45 minutes. these people were very interested in leasing and or buying him.

Unless something very dramatic has happened to him in the last three weeks, there is no reason to put him down, except that his owner wants to do it.

If her reasons are purely financial, then she should understand that there is help available to her.

Just where is it you're getting your information from?

[Coreene]

Last night, Oliver aghasted me. I was so verklempt I had to dranken.

[Dancing Lawn]

Im so agahsted right now, I think I'll go pour myself a dranken. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Boston Chicken]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by alabama:
Do you want Mexican cornbread or regular? I have really good recipes for both - but you'll need a iron skillet and you'll have to wait 'til I get home tonight unless you trust my memory (which I don't). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have no idea what mexican cornbread is, but I assume it wears a sombrero?

I would love the recipe. OLE!

[HFSH]

thanks guys, I needed a good laugh! verklempt - ah coreene, yooos is FUNNY!!

[nhwr]

My (relevent) experiences;

1) Dancinglite has said in more than a few places and more than a few times that no one could care for her horse the way she can and she can't afford to care for him anymore so she is "thinking" about putting him down. I personally think this a combination "cry for help" and pity party but whatever. She started this thread in a passive/agressive manner. A lot of people know that this horse was under dancing lawn's care. So it comes across as a backhanded swipe at dancing lawn which is rubs me the wrong way.

2) Dancinglite was the OP, but also the 1st poster to make a non-horse care reference to corn was she called others coooorrrrnnnny!!!!!!!! on page 1.


3) I tried another great corn recipe last night.


Preheat oven to 350 degrees.


6 large eggs beaten
1/4 cup each green onions and green pepper, finely chopped
2 jalapenos peppers, seeded and minced

mix together in a bowl to blend. Add:

1 pound chedder cheese, shredded
2 cans (16 oz each) cream-style corn
2 tablespoons of flour
1/4 teaspoon of salt

mix well. Pour into a greased 13 x 9 inch baking dish. Place baking in a larger dish of hot water, so original 13x9 dish is surrounded by water. Bake until center is almost firm (about 45 minutes). Remove from oven and let it set up for about 10 minutes.

It is not low cal or low fat but MGiH it is great for breakfast too http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Boston Chicken]

Oh and one more thing:

My horse had a nasty "wet" corn that kept him on rest for 2 months with just handwalking. I never thought about putting him down. Hell, I would do just about anything I could to make my horse more comfortable - irregardless of money, time, and my own comfort.

[Sandbarhorse]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coreene:
Last night, Oliver aghasted me. I was so verklempt I had to dranken. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I cannot even begin to comment ont he rest of this thread, though some of the recipes sound good. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

[alabama]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boston Chicken:
I have no idea what mexican cornbread is, but I assume it wears a sombrero?

I would love the recipe. OLE! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif
It's cornbread with cheese, jalopenos (sp), corn and onion in it. It's yummy. Will post both recipes tonight when I get home. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Dancing Lawn]

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[Erin]

dancing lawn, obviously you and dancinglite have had a personal dispute, but please don't drag this thread into it. Nothing productive is going to come from a she-said/she-said argument.

[maple_brook]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pet Psychic:

Meanwhile, I must go walk my corn dog, if I can mustard up the energy. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif You guys are too creative!

[HeyYouNags]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I must go walk my corn dog <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's like a weiner dog, but in a cornbread jacket, right? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Roxy Redhead]

We haven't talked about corn chips yet either! I always bring lots of chips and salsa for when we tailgate after out hunter paces ... my favorites currently are the Tostitos Gold or Trader Joe's ... very yummy!

[Coreene]

Mexican Cornbread (by Lynn Gibson)

You can sub ortega chilies for the jalapenos

INGREDIENTS:
2 eggs
1/4 cup corn oil
1 cup buttermilk
1 1/2 cups shredded Cheddar cheese
1 (8 ounce) can cream-style corn
1 large onion, chopped
2 fresh jalapeno peppers, seeded and minced
1 cup cornmeal
1/2 cup all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons baking powder
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon salt



DIRECTIONS:

Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).

Grease an 8 inch square baking dish or a cast iron skillet.

In a small bowl, beat eggs. Mix in corn oil and buttermilk. Stir in 1 cup shredded cheese, creamed corn, onion, and jalapenos.
In a large bowl, whisk together cornmeal, flour, baking powder, soda, and salt. Stir the egg mixture into the dry ingredients. Mix well.

Pour batter into prepared pan. Sprinkle remaining 1/2 cup cheese on top.

Bake for 30 to 35 minutes until center is set and top is golden brown.

[Pocket Pony]

These recipes will come in handy, as for Xmas dinner we're having:

Fried Chicken
Macaroni and Cheese
Collard Greens
Corn Bread
Lemon Meringue Pie

MMMMmmmmmmm yum!

[LE]

As I said, I am not cursing the mass majority of COTH posters, because the majority of you are wonderful, knowledgeable people. But, there are a distinct few that I see from board to board, who like to continue to annoy this poster and I can't figure out why.

horsemad, I know the facts and I am in contact with DL(lite) and know what is going on and know what plan B is. if you are concerned, direct your emails to Dancinglite and she can tell you what is going on. It is not my place to do so.

No one ever said this horse was lame, or such. No one said she was putting him down due to anything. She simply stated her horse had corns, and it was most likley due to the previous person riding him without shoes, and on improper footing. I fail to see where the rest came in, other than posting comments made from another time, and not pertaining to this at all. In about five other pages, this thread will be talking about corn dogs, corn bread, and corn on the cob, and I really think that is rude.

I respect all those who love horses, who want to help people in a crisis, but this kind of behaviour, I think makes those who are being rude, not just to DL, but to Happy Times, who was trying to be a voice of reason, true colors show.

For all those who posted kind information, and I apologize, I don't remember all your names(one begins with a Y, and I do remember Boston Chicken's name) you were very kind. It was when gossip was spread by people with less than kind intentions did your attitudes change. Why not go to the source??

[Happy Times]

This is my last reply as it is appearent that once the shark feeding gets started everything and everyone is likely to get bitten

This is a recipe on how the end product is produced by putting in ingregients that are not confirmed or even stated.

I call this the COTH fruitcake

Ingredients

1 cup butter
2 cups sugar
6 large eggs
2 teaspoons baking powder
3 cups flour, sifted
1/2 t. salt
1 cup bourbon
1 pound pecans, chopped
3 cups white raisins (or use candied fruit)
1 t. nutmeg

AND

A LARGE BOTTLE OF RYE WHISKEY!

Directions

First, sample the whiskey to check for quality.

Assemble all of the ingredients.

Check the whiskey again.

To be sure it is of the highest quality, pour one level cup and drink. Repeat this step.

Turn on the electric mixer and beat one cup of butter in a large fluffy bowl.

Add one teaspoon of sugar and cream until beat.

Make sure the whiskey is still okay... try another cup.

Turn off the mixer. Beat six leggs and add to the bowl, then chunk in the cup of dried flut.

Mix on the tuner.Throw in two quarts of flour.

Gradually pour in the cow. Add 2 dried anything.

If the fried druit gets struck in the beaters, pry it loose with a drewscriver.

Sample the whiskey and check it again for tonsistency.

Next, sift two cups of salt. Or something. Who cares???

Check the whiskey again.

Now sift the nutmeg and strain your nuts.

Add one table. And the spoon. Of whiskee. Or something. Whatever you find left.

Grease the oven.Turn the crake pan to 350 degrees.

Don't forget to beat off the turner. Pour the oven into the batter.

Throw the bowl out the window. Lick the batter off the floor.

Bake 300 minutes at 50 degrees.

Finish the blobble of whishy and flow to bed.

Final comments regarding horsemads statement regarding "but now he’s in chronic pain, can’t walk, etc.?". The statement made by DL on page one says that he is NOT lame so did this ingredient get pulled from thin air.

Regarding nwhers comment regarding " A lot of people know that this horse was under dancing lawn's care. So it comes across as a backhanded swipe at dancing lawn which is rubs me the wrong way. Was Dancing Lawn the trainer refered to because I thought she was the rescue person ?? This ingredient is clouded at best.

Regarding everyones comment "that the horse is being put down because of corns". I fail to see where this ingredient was stated by the only person that could confirm it so this is pure assumption base on what some posters would like us to believe.

Finally taking a word I used and making fun of it is not laughing WITH me but LAUGHING AT ME. In that case it is totally rude and is exactly the type of verbal abuse that leads young teenagers to suicide. That puts you in the same classification of the indirect murderers that the school bullies are in. After all what DID I DO TO YOU that would cause you to act so repugnant.

[RioTex]

Well...it seems the source has disappeared and you, LE, are still contributing on the source's behalf. I for one invite the source back to explain what is up.

Dancinglite, please return to the thread and share with the concerned citizines "Plan B" and how your stallion's feet are doing.

[xegeba]

Has anyone posting here been to Kenya?

[sixpoundfarm]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Happy Times:
I don't post very often as I mostly just read but are you aware that there are people out there on another BB that are commenting on the childishness of the posters on this BB?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


<span class="ev_code_RED">WHAT?!?!!</span>
There are OTHER BB's out there??
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Why did no one tell me this? I must surf more often!

Back to your regularly scheduled waste of bandwidth.

[Sierra]

Can we get back to the a-ghastronomic topic at hand...corns. Send me more recipes, I dare you.

Going back to lurkedom... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sleepy.gif

[Galileo1998]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Happy Times:
Finally taking a word I used and making fun of it is not laughing WITH me but LAUGHING AT ME. In that case it is totally rude and is exactly the type of verbal abuse that leads young teenagers to suicide. That puts you in the same classification of the indirect murderers that the school bullies are in. After all what DID I DO TO YOU that would cause you to act so repugnant. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh please http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif We are NOT bullies, we are simply prepared to tell someone when they are acting like an ass. Stop with the suicide innuendoes, I can assure you for anyone that has had someone actually do it attention seeking like this gets a tad dull very quickly. We are not driving anyone to do anything (other than make corn bred) and you classifying us as indirect murderers is totally rude and abusive, should we now decide we just can't cope anymore now that you've abused us in such a manner???

[HeyYouNags]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Galileo1998:
(other than make corn bred) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry, but if you need advice about getting corn bred, you need to post on the Breeding Forum. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Nikki^]

Corn on the cob, grilled and seaoned with butter and Lawery's seasoned salt.

YUMMY!!!!!

[Coreene]

Corn bred turns out those little muffins.

[Pocket Pony]

Children of the Corn was such a scary movie that I couldn't even watch the whole thing!

[Heidi]

If I were to breed Ontario peaches and cream corn to, let's say, a can of Jolly Green Giant, will I get a sabino corn?

Gallileo, couldn't agree with you more. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif Do think there's some aghasted attactakative agendadum being forwarded; which bears little resemblance to what's been posted by the OP...

[Coreene]

Scaramouche, scaramouche, will you do the fandango?
Thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening me!
Galileo, galileo
Galileo, galileo
Galileo figaro, magnifico-o-o-o

[Dancing Lawn]

Erin, I humbly apologize. I was so aghasted, that I made an inappropriate remark.

I should be corned and feathered.

i will go and have a small glass of port, since I have no corn whiskey in the house. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Coreene]

Good idea, DL. At times like this, it's best to dranken.

[Dancing Lawn]

Correene, a quick question! If little muffins are corn bred, what does that make stud muffins?

[Heidi]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>If little muffins are corn bred, what does that make stud muffins <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm glad you asked, dancing lawn. According to Masters and Cornson, the most commondly found stud muffins repress their inner sensitivity and wish for nothing than to be a light, buttery, flaky croissant - or they are suffering deeply, we're talking at the batter level, from the cruel whisk of Betty Crocker, who's denied them their desire to be a banana loaf.

[Coreene]

Silly girl! Stud Muffins are Robby Johnsons!

[nhwr]

But surely not "little" stud muffins. I have no doubt Robbie's stature as a stud muffin is epic http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[Ride'emVA]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coreene:
Silly girl! Stud Muffins are Robby Johnsons! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BTW, that reminds me to ask...Am I the ONLY one here that opened my CoTH Stallion issue and saw, "Hey!There's a stud named R. Johnson!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Silly boy, I doubt you have to advertise! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[17hTBmare]

Great song---Queen rocks.

[Coreene]

But do not get the two mixed up: AGHASTED is when you accidentally let one fly when someone is behind you, ASSGASKET is the paper you put on the toilet seat before sitting down (not required in public toilets in all states, but we have 'em here in the OC).

[Galileo1998]

Uh oh. Now you're all laughing at me for saying corn bred instead of corn bread. Don't you know that's mean, and proves that each and every one of you is a cruel, thoughtless bully????? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif HOw ever will I cope you evil heartless people??? Oh I know, I'll laugh too, and be aghasted that I made such a mistake http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Pocket Pony]

Galileo, I hope you take it all in stride and in the manner in which it was intended. If not, then...maybe there's no hope for you.

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[alabama]

Cornbread (regular)
2 cups self rising corn meal
1/4 cup vegitable oil
1 2/3 cups buttermilk
1-2 teaspoon salt to taste (or if you're like me, more)
1 tablespoon butter

Add liquid to cornmeal in bowl until creamy. Should be liquidy (yes, that is is a word). Preheat oven to 425*. Put butter in iron skillet and melt. Then ad batter and cook until crispy (about 20-25 min).

This recipe could not be easier but it's really good. BTW, sometimes you have to add or not add a little of the liquid to get the right consistancy.

Mexican Cornbread
1 1/2 cups corn meal
1 cup cream-style corn
1/2 cup grated onion
1 cup sharp cheese
3 eggs
1/2 cup cooking oil
1/2 cup milk
1 tsp. red peppers, crushed (or a few chopped jalapenos, which is what I usually use)
1 tablespoon butter

In a large mixing bowl, place corn meal, corn onions, cheese and red peppers/japs; mix lightly. Make a well in dry ingredients and add eggs, oil and milk. Blend by hand using about 40 strokes. Preheat oven at 350*. Melt butter in iron skillet. Pour batter into skillet. Cook for 1 1/2 hours.


My horse loves the mexican cornbread. He makes faces at the jalapenos. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[xegeba]

Coreene http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif The gasket thing was classic!!!

[Platonic]

My French aunt had a wonderful receipe and I think that with corn on the cob it would be great.

First take a big cauldren full of water to put the corn in then add the marinated shank of horse. Now you must make sure the marinate is done correctly as horse can be a bit tough. If you get a fat pony or a yearling or even a weanling then it will be a lot more tender. You must also make sure that the hooves have been chopped off as they tend to melt and spoil the overall tast.The shank should be in the boiling water long enough so that the meat strips come away from the bone easily.

Everyone enjoy!

[xegeba]

Actually Platonic, that recipe calls for white truffles, not corn and I believe that venison is the meat of choice. You would be well advised to stick with Hamburger Helper.

[Platonic]

White truffles Hmmmmmmmmmm that would spice things up but can be a bit expensive so maybe just a few.

Hamburger helper would not be my coice. Truffles and hamberger helper? Now where is the class in that.

Sorry but the french have more class. I will check and see if we can make a good truffle stuffing to put in the horse shank.

[Karosel]

Here are some Corny Recipes (http://www.agry.purdue.edu/ext/corn/cgg5/recipes.htm) for you! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The Peanut Butter Candied Corn sounds really good!

PEANUT BUTTER CANDIED CORN

4 quarts popped popcorn

1 can (12 ounces) lightly salted peanuts

1 cup firmly packed brown sugar

3/4 cup dark corn syrup

1/2 cup butter or margarine

1/2 teaspoon salt

3/4 cup smooth peanut butter

1 teaspoon vanilla extract

1/2 teaspoon baking soda

Preheat oven to 250 degrees. Combine popcorn and peanuts in a large roasting pan. In a large saucepan, comnine brown sugar, corn syrup, butter, and salt over medium heat. Stirring constantly, bring to a boil; boil 1 minute. Remove from heat. Add peanut butter and vanilla; stir until smooth. Stir in baking soda (mixture will foam). Pour over popcorn mixture; stir until well coated. Bake 1 hour, stirring every 15 minutes. Spread on lightly greased aluminum foil to cool. Store in a airtight container.

Yield: about 20 cups candied corn

And so does the corn-wild mushroom salsa http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Roasted Corn and Wild Mushroom Salsa

4 ears fresh corn
1/3 c cleaned and diced fresh wild mushrooms
1/4 c sun-dried tomatoes (or roasted red pepper)
2 poblano chiles, roasted, peeled, seeded and diced
2 t minced fresh marjoram
1 clove roasted garlic, minced
1 t adobo sauce
1 t fresh lime juice
1/2 t sherry vinegar
1/2 t salt

Cut the corn kernels from the cobs with a sharp knife.
Heat a large pan or skille over high heat until almost
smoking. Place no more than 2 layers of the corn kernels
in the pan at a time and dry-roast for 4-5 minutes until
smoky and dark (stirring continuously). Saute the
mushrooms for 10 min. Mix with the corn and add the
remaining ingredients.

[Platonic]

Karosel are you suggesting that the peanut butter candied corn would be a better stuffing than the suggested truffled one?

Can you imagine all that corn popping in the horse meat and sending missles all over the place. Would be a little messy with fat dripping being splattered as well.

[Karosel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Platonic:
Karosel are you suggesting that the peanut butter candied corn would be a better stuffing than the suggested truffled one?

Can you imagine all that corn popping in the horse meat and sending missles all over the place. Would be a little messy with fat dripping being splattered as well. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No of course not, but the peanut butter candy corn would make a great dessert and the salsa a great appetizer. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ....now Im hungry. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

[xegeba]

There is simply not enough fat in horse to pop a kernal of korn... but every good gourmando knows that. Platonic, where exactly do you find your white truffles? Actually, would one waste a good white truffle on fillers? I think not.

[Platonic]

Oh goody. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Do you have any idea what the owners stuffed that foal with that was on ebay. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Truffles--peanut butter candied corn-muffins.I realy don't think creamed corn would work--might get a bit messy. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Just a thought--do they really use the hoofs for glue ? I always wondered on that.

[xegeba]

Dear Platonic... Get off my foal.

[Platonic]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xegeba:
There is simply not enough fat in horse to pop a kernal of korn... but every good gourmando knows that. Platonic, where exactly do you find your white truffles? Actually, would one waste a good white truffle on fillers? I think not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which ones are the most rare the white ones or the black ones. My Aunts said that you get pigs to dig up the truffles.

So maybe a roast pig and stuffed horse would be a great beach party bar-b-que.

So whoever is in contact with DL tell her/him to send the horse here so we can have a party. I will take the rump as I don't like corny feet. LOL

[xegeba]

No pig is sniffing out my white truffle.

[Coreene]

If it tries, make sure it is aghasted!

[xegeba]

Do they make buttgaskets for aghasted swine?

[dancinglite]

Sorry---he is no longer available to you.

[okggo]

That's so sad http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif I really hope there was more to this story than meets the eye. May he RIP.

[baileygreyhorse]

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[CoolMeadows]

That poor horse. I hope you get whatever illnesses you appear to have treated before you get into horse ownership again. "Sorry--- he is no longer available to you" is so telling. Nobody here was jealous, or trying to steal your horse away, just horrified at the prospect of a perfectly healthy horse being killed due to financial reasons when there were so many options available to you. When the reality comes back and hits you, I hope you can get through it. May he rest in peace. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[Calico]

Oh no. I always thought he was a nice looking stallion, what happened to him?

[Boston Chicken]

How very sad that a horse appears (???) to have been put down out of spite. I wish you or one of your friends had simply stated what was wrong with him that would necessitate ending his life. I am truly without words...

If all is as appears here, at the very least he is free from you.

RIP http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[Karosel]

WOW I've never "met" someone so sick and twisted before. If I ever run into you at a show..... and yes I do know your name and what you look like.

And FWIW here is Dlites' website www.dancinglite.com/main.html (http://www.dancinglite.com/main.html)

[Louise]

Guys, before you get too angry, just remember that we have absolutely no evidence that this horse has actually been put down. This could be a statement that the OP has made simply to upset you all, in exchange for all of the "trauma" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif you have put her through.

The wording is just a little too vague for my taste. Let's wait until we have some definitive word on the situation.

[Galileo1998]

Louise - I agree with you that her first statement is very vague, but the final statement of "DL--1992-2004" is designed to either announce that he's dead, or make people think he's dead. Either way it's horrid.

[horse_poor]

If you indeed did put this horse down for corns or could not afford him or any other superficial readon, you are a fruitbatting fool.

And the vet that did it is as unethical as it gets.

If you did what you are leading the rest of us to do, I hope he haunts you every moment of your life. And if you are feeling sorrow for it, good--I hope you feel it every day of your life--I hope the pain those of us who have experienced the loss of a horse we loved and battled the maladies with but finally let them go rips thu your soul for eternity.

I always said I would never wish those feelings I had when I lost Aero on anyone--now I do--

Whether you did it or not, you are a sick, twisted individual and next to you, I am the perfect picture of mental health.

If you feel anything dropping on your head, its Aero and Willem and Yo Yo and the rest up at The Bridge spitting on you while welcoming your poor boy, telling him there are owners out there who are kind, unlike you.

You are a freaking psycho who should never own another horse as long as you live.

[Hattie]

Dancinglite - please seek help for your mental issues that you so obviously have. I find it hard to fathom that anyone could put a horse down(for your stated reasons) when so many people have offered help. You must live in a sad world when you think that everyone is out to take advantage of you. What I find deplorable is that an innocent animal has to suffer because of your spite.

I am now going out to give my elderly horse and my lame horse a big hug and a carrot.

[DMK]

Hattie, it makes me very happy that I bought the old lame man (Rebel) his very own peppermint candy jar this morning.

And may I never be so mentally unwell that I let the care, concern, opinions (mostly well meaning), direct or otherwise of other people (internet or otherwise) cause me to either intentionally harm an animal out of spite, or lead people to believe that I am capable of such things.

I second Hattie's observation. You're in Canada. You have health care. Seek out professional care.

[JEN22]

DL, I really hope that you are leading everyone to believe that he is gone just for spite. As a horse lover and horsewoman I hope you never own another animal, ANY ANIMAL, ever again. Someone who would do such a thing, if true, doesn't deserve the gifts that a horse will give to you. You I'm sure have read all these posts of late about these poor folks having to make the ultimate decision of euthanasia for reasons and illnesses much more grave. I hope your soul can heal from such a terrible and senseless act. If there are other circumstances and I'm jumping to conclusions, let me be the first to apologize for judging you, but I can't understand for the life of me why such a thing would be deemed necessary. Also, why someone would be so cruel if this is not true.

[Heidi]

I am speechless...whether you're misleading the people on this BB out of sheer spite or you've actually put down your horse, either is despicable. How could you do such a thing? Do you not have a conscience, a sense of responsibility, possess even an iota of sanity?

[Dancing Lawn]

She also breeds siamese cats. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

Merry Christmas, Dancinglite, you must be very proud of yourself. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

[Erin]

Hmm. Musing for a moment...

If one were a professional horse person -- standing a stallion, giving lessons, training horses -- I would imagine that one would go to any length to protect one's reputation. After all, in the horse world, word of mouth can mean a lot.

So I find it awfully curious that dancinglite has returned to this thread, presumably within hours of the deed having been done, to inform a bunch of people who obviously have developed a not-so-nice opinion of her (deserved or otherwise) that her horse is dead, leaving them to think what they may and knowing full well the furor that would erupt.

I think if *I* were a professional embroiled in such a brouhaha, especially if it were undeserved, as dancinglite claims, I would quietly disappear and let people talk about corn bread. I certainly wouldn't deliberately fuel the fire.

There's an obvious undertone of spite in dancinglite's posts. She tried to pin this whole thing on me way back on page 4 or 5, saying she was "taking [my] suggestion." Then there's the cryptic "he's no longer available to you," as if the people on this thread were planning to spirit her horse away in the middle of the night.

NONE of this exactly strikes me as a rational approach to the situation at hand.

My gut feeling is that we're being played. All of the secrecy around the horse's condition. All of the suicide inferences. The drama level here is a LOT higher than it needed to be, and it all leads back to dancinglite and what she will and won't say.

Thus, letting this thread continue and letting people rip her a new one is, in my guesstimation, exactly what she wants. So I'm going to close it. If, as she claims, the horse is gone, then obviously it's all a moot point anyway. I can only hope that if a vet was willing to put the horse down, that he did actually have serious issues that were interfering with his quality of life.

dancinglite, I *strongly* suggest you not post on this BB anymore. People here have loooong memories, and odds are that if you post here again, within about 20 minutes someone will link to this thread. I really have no interest in constantly moderating trainwrecks-in-waiting, so I think for the good of all concerned, until such time that you can actually explain what happened to your horse, you're best off finding somewhere else to post.