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Ozalynda
Aug. 23, 2011, 01:33 PM
I can not keep Easyboot Gloves on my mare's hind feet when we canter. I have gone down in size to the smallest one I can fit over her feet. I have powerstraps on and I am now going to try the Mueller tape method.

Any other suggestions? Can a boot be TOO small if it still can fit over the hoof? She has normal feet- rounder in the front and more oval behind. No asymetry.

oldpony66
Aug. 23, 2011, 08:44 PM
I lose them at the trot, consider yourself a step ahead of me. Mine only fit for a precious 1-2 week period of the trim cycle (which for me is every 6 weeks) so I have not even used them this year. When they fit well, they kind of "pop" on. There's a different feel to how it goes on the foot, like it snaps in place. When I don't get that "pop" I know I'm going to lose a boot, and I know which one so now I just won't go out with them on badly. Or, like I said, I won't even go out with them on at all :-( So yes, I think they can be too small and still seem to fit.

Ozalynda
Aug. 24, 2011, 03:02 AM
I have tried them ½ size larger and those she lost at a trot. :/

oldpony66
Aug. 24, 2011, 07:24 PM
could be the shape of the foot, too. Maybe gloves just aren't for her. But it could also be the way they move. I have gloves for two horses (all four feet, too) and one horse will lose the right hind, the other will lose the left front, although I think she sometimes overreaches and helps that process along. If you find a reasonable solution, please pass it along!

Ozalynda
Aug. 25, 2011, 02:29 AM
It is always her right hind, and generally in the transition from trot to canter. I suspect it is something in the way she pushes off from that foot.

I'm getting some Mueller tape and am going to try that trick. Otherwise I think Renegades might be in her future.

Raleigh's Mom
Aug. 25, 2011, 08:55 PM
It is always her right hind, and generally in the transition from trot to canter. I suspect it is something in the way she pushes off from that foot.

I'm getting some Mueller tape and am going to try that trick. Otherwise I think Renegades might be in her future.

Let us know how the Mueller tape works. I have used Epics in the past but it is time for new boots. I was considering Gloves but am concerned about the issue that you are having. I am looking at Renegades, too. I am putting my QH in Eponas and considering those as an option for my Arab that generally does great barefoot but needs hoof protection if we are conditioning/competing. I am glueing on my first boots (Renegade glue-ons) for an endurance ride next weekend. o.O

Ozalynda
Aug. 27, 2011, 10:27 AM
I just got home from a 15 km ride in absolute drenching rain and load of deep sucking mud. If there ever was a test for boots, this was it. I used the Mueller tape and to my amazement the boots stayed on beautifully.

So that seems to be a winner, at least for us. Now I just need to find Mueller's tape cheaper (paid 40 kr/$7.60 for a roll).

migule22
Aug. 30, 2011, 05:37 AM
Thunder is a tad wider hooved than Blue but they both wear the same size Glove. However it didn't take long to figure out that the 0.5 wasn't going to fit on his front hooves. I did get it on the hoof but it didn't seat well. I had to go to the size 1 for Thunder's fronts for it to look like a good fit. And the 0.5 Wide fit the hinds well.

Robyn
Aug. 30, 2011, 08:50 AM
Excuse me, but what is the Mueller tape trick??

Ozalynda
Aug. 30, 2011, 03:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7vUH3qibCo

Robyn
Aug. 30, 2011, 09:51 PM
Thanx :)

So far the wides seem to be working but I haven't really "tested" them yet. But, I can get them on and off, although the off part is pretty hard. Which may be a good thing...

Kyzteke
Aug. 30, 2011, 10:51 PM
Lisa --

If you have a good chiro in your area, you might want to try having them take a quick at your gal moving at trot and/or canter. If it's a slight imbalance or interference when she pushes off there might be training trips/exercises that could help her correct.

She is still so young, and you want her sound for many, many years to come.

Such a nice young mare!

Cartfall
Sep. 10, 2011, 09:25 PM
Do you have gators on them? I use them with the gloves and have no problem.

Ozalynda
Oct. 9, 2011, 02:46 PM
Just thought I would give an update on the Easyboot Gloves problem. I have found a fantastic solution:

Renegades!!!

Easy to put on
Stay on
No rubs
Super protection (mare suddenly has a turbo trot that she had never shown before).

I love them!!

Meadow36
Oct. 9, 2011, 03:14 PM
That's good to know. I have hesitated to invest in the gloves because of many people having issues.

Actually I was all set to buy the renegades when we finally decided to put shoes on this horse due to other issues that he is having.

didgery
Oct. 9, 2011, 05:15 PM
Just thought I would give an update on the Easyboot Gloves problem. I have found a fantastic solution:

Renegades!!!

Easy to put on
Stay on
No rubs
Super protection (mare suddenly has a turbo trot that she had never shown before).

I love them!!
I want a pair (or two)! I can't wait to try Renegades, since I'm so tired of wearing out gaiters on my otherwise-wonderful Epics. Gotta save up.

Thanks for the update!

GreyDes
Oct. 9, 2011, 10:28 PM
I LOVE Renegades! We have them for four barefoot horses, and they work beautifully!

I will say, I was very tempted by the gloves, but my two Arabs have round feet, and the measurements absolutely won't work with that style.

Lisa Preston
Oct. 10, 2011, 06:52 AM
Old Pony - Christina Kramlich-Bowie blogged about getting the gloves to stay on and found a 2 week trim one of the critical points for boot retention.

Auventera Two
Oct. 10, 2011, 07:05 AM
I am a dealer for Easycare and I darned well know how to fit boots, and even I have had some trouble with the Gloves. They're absolutely fine for our leisure trail rides - I even canter and gallop in them, no problems. Mud, rocks, river crossing, fine.

But when I get to an endurance ride and my horse is a bit more jacked up and dancy/prancy, she manages to pull a boot off 2 to 3 times per ride. Extremely annoying, time wasting, and the reason I am going back to Edge boots for competing. I have also had a lot of trouble with the screws coming unscrewed and the gaiter detaches from the boot body. Using Loc-Tite fixes that though. That has never happened on any other type of boot I've used.

In my experience with selling and fitting Gloves for people, the boots either work perfectly well or not really at all. There isn't much middle ground. They work best on horses that are trimmed on a very short cycle - like 4-6 weeks absolute most. Very correct footed horses with absolutely NO flare, underrun heel, long toe. Horses that do not interfere at all. If all those things fall into place, then you stand a reasonable chance of keeping them on.

The other thing with Gloves is that Easycare recommends not using even the 6mm pads inside, but I will NOT put a pair of boots on a horse without pads. Especially because the deep cut lines inside the sole of the boot will absolutely destroy a hoof if you're not careful. If you have a bit softer hoof, riding all day through water crossing, no pads in the boots = deep cut lines throughout the bottom of the hoof wall mimicking the deep grooves in the bottom of the boot. NOT GOOD. The worst damage I have ever seen to a hoof from boot use was in Gloves with no pads and wet river crossings all day long. The water softened the hoof up enough to allow those deep lines inside the boot to gouge slices all throughout the outer sole and hoof wall. Here in the Midwest, we have WET and SOFT HOOVES. The Gloves I think are better for harder terrains and harder feet.

So maybe they do stay on better if you don't use pads but I would never recommend anyone do that unless you're gluing them on. And at that point the glue will protect the foot.

Overall, the boots are "ok" under perfect circumstances attached to the perfect hoof but other than that, I'm going back to Edge.