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Calvincrowe
Aug. 23, 2011, 12:22 AM
I saw a few ads for seemingly nice hunters on Dreamhorse posted by this farm, and the trainer Kaitlyn Biear. I wondered if anyone knows/has experience with this farm or trainer. I looked up USEF and local show records but didn't see any...not that that is a huge factor.

Seems she/they are new to Bend, Oregon and come from California. Have an acquaintance who found one ad interesting and am just doing a bit of background checking.:)

Calvincrowe
Aug. 23, 2011, 10:30 AM
Can I make assumptions from the resounding silence on this topic that she/the farm is not well known? Perhaps not all she/they are self-reporting on the website? Or not?

Anyone??

CuteArabHunter
Aug. 23, 2011, 12:14 PM
I think the problem may be that there is just not that many COTHers in Oregon. It is not a huge horse state....

MR
Aug. 23, 2011, 01:15 PM
Looks like she's from down here (San Francisco Bay Area) and had students on the circuit in our area, but I don't recognize her name or barn. Must have moved to Oregon in the last year or so. Sorry I can't be of more help! Maybe someone else will recognize the name.

jazmine
Feb. 12, 2012, 02:28 AM
Please beware of this "trainer." Kaitlyn Biear is smooth talking, shrewd and able to think on her feet and be very convincing. If it sounds too good to be true it is! Don't fall victim and be taken! All she wants is your money and will say and do anything to get it. There are plenty of reputable, ethical and trustworthy trainers and people selling horses out there but she is not one of them.

Heinz 57
Feb. 12, 2012, 01:59 PM
I think the problem may be that there is just not that many COTHers in Oregon. It is not a huge horse state....

You might be surprised. :winkgrin:

I wonder if she has permission to use all the professional photos on her site. Sheri Scott, JumpShot, Blue Sky, just a few photog's marks I saw with no credit given in the caption.

I'm no help, Calvin, can't say I've ever heard of her. But I'd guess that if someone is using a free site with a .webs.com address and standing a QH/Paint 4 year old 15.1h stud as a "sporthorse sire", claiming that he has "smooth gates, wonderful scope over fences, and an excellent Hunter format" that maybe they aren't quite up to 'big time A circuit trainer' status, just yet. ;) :lol:

(ps. what's 'hunter format'?)

nanbe
Mar. 5, 2012, 06:58 PM
I had a very bad horse transaction issue with her just last month, please beware. I agree with the previous poster, what a smooth talker. Since then I have found and recieved lots of information on what type of person she is. You do not want to get in any sort of relation with her, horse lease, sales, purchase, lessons or boarding. We had to call the police about our horse issue. I should have know when I googled her and found her mugshot, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and thought people make mistakes. I was wrong, she is just bad!!! Save yourself a lot of stress and find a reputable trainer. I also found some horses on Dreamhorse under Windy Hill Farms that are her's.

CDE Driver
Mar. 5, 2012, 07:07 PM
I think the problem may be that there is just not that many COTHers in Oregon. It is not a huge horse state....

Now wait one cotton pickin' minute! We are too a huge horse state! :D

I live near Bend and would be happy to ask around if you like, but it looks as though you may have gotten your answer ;)

scarlet26
Jul. 5, 2012, 06:23 PM
Oh where do begin with this young girl of age 22.
She took me in as she acted so sweet and nice. She talked about her custody battle, and her ex loosing her 6 month old baby to the father. Why did that happen? HHHMM
She has been arrested and you will see her mug shot under BendMugshots.com
She lies about the age of her horses that she has listed for sale, Example she has a 20 year old + mare named Bo listed in the portland and Bend oregon area asking $7,500 and the add says that the mare is only 15. LIE! The mare is 20 years old +. She also had a mare named Liera knowing that the mare had a HITCH in her back, walked with a limp with the hind leg.
She also has a stud named Spider a quarter horse paint around 14. + hands that she just started to train for jumping.

[She] bailed on board and LIED about needing to take her stud to the vet to have him gelded. She took him to a different ranch called FLY SPUR Ranch in Tumalo Oregon.
She broke her 30 day notice along with the boarding contract with all three horses never putting any notice of leave in writing.
She then threatened to steel hay from the barn, because she thought that she was being over charged for board.
She will facebook you be your friend to act like she is real nice and take you for granted. WATCH OUT!

We are now taking her to court to re claim the board money that she still owes! Which we will Win!
Anyone that crosses her path with fall victim to her lies and evil ways.
She has bounced around from barn to barn to barn all over Central Oregon.
She needs to go back to California where she belongs!
If you have her in your barn now you will have a barn full of Drama, and she will run off your good paying boarders.

Kaitlyn Biear HeadCase Liar and Theif!:mad:

Jumpthemoon16
Jul. 5, 2012, 06:43 PM
She has bounced around from barn to barn to barn all over Central Oregon.
She needs to go back to California where she belongs!

Please, we don't want her back!!! :lol::lol:

ACSmith
Jul. 5, 2012, 07:38 PM
What is her website? I'm interested now ;)

shireluver
Jul. 19, 2012, 01:41 AM
It's not hard to figure out who ARABbreeder1986 is. :cool:

shireluver
Jul. 19, 2012, 01:43 AM
It's not hard to figure out who ARABbreeder1986 is. :cool:

Now that they deleted their post mine doesn't make any sense.

Calvincrowe
Jul. 19, 2012, 10:11 AM
I've received a PM asking me to delete this post as it is "damaging" to the trainer in question. I am sorry that a public discussion of her abilities and program has been deemed "damaging"--but if you play in the court of public opinion, you need to be playing fair and square I guess. No, I won't delete it.

Sfbayequine
Jan. 5, 2013, 11:46 PM
Kaitlyn Biear has returned to California and has started a sale barn in Castro Valley under the name Derby Stride Farm. Will also come up as Derbystride Farm.

She is using the name Catrina Biear or Kate Biear

I have recently experienced exactly what others on this board experienced and alluded to. Deal with great caution and be sure the horse you are going to buy is really the horse you are getting. Vet check, vet check, vet check. Which is always good advise no matter who you buy from.

Guin
Jan. 6, 2013, 05:33 PM
I'll just save these for posterity, since they're clearly from the same person.



Please beware of this "trainer." Kaitlyn Biear is smooth talking, shrewd and able to think on her feet and be very convincing. If it sounds too good to be true it is! Don't fall victim and be taken! All she wants is your money and will say and do anything to get it. There are plenty of reputable, ethical and trustworthy trainers and people selling horses out there but she is not one of them.

Guin
Jan. 6, 2013, 05:34 PM
And number 2:


Kaitlyn Biear has returned to California and has started a sale barn in Castro Valley under the name Derby Stride Farm. Will also come up as Derbystride Farm.

She is using the name Catrina Biear or Kate Biear

I have recently experienced exactly what others on this board experienced and alluded to. Deal with great caution and be sure the horse you are going to buy is really the horse you are getting. Vet check, vet check, vet check. Which is always good advise no matter who you buy from.

Guin
Jan. 6, 2013, 05:35 PM
And #3:



Oh where do begin with this young girl of age 22.
She took me in as she acted so sweet and nice. She talked about her custody battle, and her ex loosing her 6 month old baby to the father. Why did that happen? HHHMM
She has been arrested and you will see her mug shot under BendMugshots.com
She lies about the age of her horses that she has listed for sale, Example she has a 20 year old + mare named Bo listed in the portland and Bend oregon area asking $7,500 and the add says that the mare is only 15. LIE! The mare is 20 years old +. She also had a mare named Liera knowing that the mare had a HITCH in her back, walked with a limp with the hind leg.
She also has a stud named Spider a quarter horse paint around 14. + hands that she just started to train for jumping.

[She] bailed on board and LIED about needing to take her stud to the vet to have him gelded. She took him to a different ranch called FLY SPUR Ranch in Tumalo Oregon.
She broke her 30 day notice along with the boarding contract with all three horses never putting any notice of leave in writing.
She then threatened to steel hay from the barn, because she thought that she was being over charged for board.
She will facebook you be your friend to act like she is real nice and take you for granted. WATCH OUT!

We are now taking her to court to re claim the board money that she still owes! Which we will Win!
Anyone that crosses her path with fall victim to her lies and evil ways.
She has bounced around from barn to barn to barn all over Central Oregon.
She needs to go back to California where she belongs!
If you have her in your barn now you will have a barn full of Drama, and she will run off your good paying boarders.

Kaitlyn Biear HeadCase Liar and Theif!:mad:

Guin
Jan. 6, 2013, 05:36 PM
Very well, carry on.

accidental cowgirl
Jan. 6, 2013, 06:19 PM
She is truly a liar and a fraud, and will totally misrepresent horses (for instance a 15.3 chestnut TB mare with a temperamental streak that gets strong over fences that she advertised as a 16.1 warmblood cross with a dead quiet, beginner safe attitude - the perfect short stirrup horse. NOT. And the horse has a track tattoo!). My trainer and a client in our barn got totally ripped off by her, and we later discovered several other barns where she'd yanked the horses out without notice, leaving large unpaid board bills, etc. She did this to my trainer then bad mouthed him and made up lies when he put a lien on a horse she owed THOUSANDS of dollars in expenses for. Do NOT do business with her or trust anything she says.

Kaitlyn Biear
Jan. 21, 2013, 03:39 AM
I have been watching this post for a couple months now due to personal 3rd parties posting and trying to use it against me as an upper hand in a personal issue. As expected, it failed for them, but I'm here to clear my name since so many of you do not have any clue of what's going on.

As for Eric Noel of Portland, Oregon.
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1302920.html
He has a horrible reputation for not only taking other people's horses and selling them, but pocketing the money entirely. The mare's name is Rock-A-Bye usef #5021121, and clearly states she is a Thoroughbred with a history of being ridden by young riders. Eric has not paid a penny on the mare and there is current litigation going on for him to comply with a signed contract to do so. The mare has been reported stolen and Eric claimed he sold the horse. The owner's have not received a penny because of his unethical business practices. My question is, why would you guys keep such a horrible horse as stated that was misrepresented? Wouldn't you return her? It's clear you know exactly what you have and she is worth what she does, more so now Eric has sold her to a client as this post obviously stated.

People... think before you read and believe. If a horse is completely different then advertised or what the vet claims, why would someone buy, lease, or even ride it?


She is truly a liar and a fraud, and will totally misrepresent horses (for instance a 15.3 chestnut TB mare with a temperamental streak that gets strong over fences that she advertised as a 16.1 warmblood cross with a dead quiet, beginner safe attitude - the perfect short stirrup horse. NOT. And the horse has a track tattoo!). My trainer and a client in our barn got totally ripped off by her, and we later discovered several other barns where she'd yanked the horses out without notice, leaving large unpaid board bills, etc. She did this to my trainer then bad mouthed him and made up lies when he put a lien on a horse she owed THOUSANDS of dollars in expenses for. Do NOT do business with her or trust anything she says.

Kaitlyn Biear
Jan. 21, 2013, 04:05 AM
As for all the other negative "multiple" posters that is clearly one person posting just under a different user name (only one post, logged in once and never again...) (thank you "Guin" for noticing this and along with several others), I am currently going through a personal litigation that this forum has been tried over and over again to be used against me with no avail. I have SEVERAL personal and professional contacts both nationally and internationally for my business and name that I am happy to personally supply to anyone who is interested and requests it. I have not gone under any other name(s) as also stated. Attaching others to gain an upper hand in things is very low... In the several years of my career as a professional, you will not find any negative comments anywhere until this forum with a starting date in March 2012 of when I retained my attorney. I do NOT run a sales barn and I have been working in the bay area for a while now. It wasn't till just recently that the other side in my personal litigation found out and therefor has posted once again. Any and all horses for sale/lease have passed their vet checks and have had their proof of ages and show records provided prior to any agreement signed. I have never had an unpaid boarding bill nor ever offered boarding or any breeding. If ANY of these claims were real, would I really still have any clients, be accepted to have my business at a boarding facility, or have any people leasing/buying any horses from/through me? I'm as honest as you get in the industry and that's why I still have a career with well known professionals to vouch on my behalf. Guess being so is a threat to those who are afraid to hind behind a screen name online. I have never been sued for unpaid bills with my horses and all my client and personally owned horses are treated to the highest respect and care. If anyone has any questions, always feel free to contact me. The only negative words you will ever hear about me are from the other side in my personal litigation or those who I have had to press charges against for not paying their bills or breaching a contractual agreement. Anyone else is going off of word of mouth from this forum and clearly does not know anything about myself in a personal nor professional standpoint.

Kaitlyn Biear
Jan. 21, 2013, 04:11 AM
To also note, I turned down helping well known Kelly Maddox of Castro Valley, CA in helping her sell her 18 year old Hanoverian Gelding, Caspian (usef #: 4960900) who is a known stopper in the A circuit. It was disclosed to me from one of his previous owners he has ringbone and is not 15 as advertised nor what Kelly told me, but really 18. I DO suggest to everyone as posted from a previous comment against me, vet check before you buy. No one should end up with a mistake and have to pay for someone else is problem! When dealing with ANY sales or leases in my career, I screen what comes into me and I do have high standards versus others out there. Reason why any sale or lease horse does not last long in my barn. What you see is what you get, and this is also why I have clients who sign on for lessons and go into training with me year round.

Calvincrowe
Jan. 21, 2013, 10:22 AM
FYI---the court case you link to is a 15 year-old litigation in Clark and Skamania counties in Washington. Might want to update that, if the trainer is question is involved in a new one.

I have NO DOG in this fight, truly I don't. I was curious about a new trainer in our area better than a year ago, and this seems to be the thread that won't die...... Is it a case of where there's smoke, there's fire? I don't know! Good luck, Ms. Biear.

Horseymama
Jan. 21, 2013, 10:57 AM
I am from Central Oregon. I grew up here and have lived and run my business here for 10 years, and my family has lived here for 35 years. I know of this girl, and would tell you to pay close attention to the above posters. If you need any more information, PM me.

KellyMaddox5
Jan. 21, 2013, 11:02 AM
Thank you Kaitlyn for bringing up Caspian. I would like to correct your misquotes. First, thank you for listing Caspians USEF #4960900, as it shows his age as 15...turning 16 this year. Secondly, you are correct, Caspian will stop when asked to jump higher than 2'6, which is why he is advertised on Bayequest (and has been) as a horse that happily jumps up to 2'. As far as ring bone....I'm really not sure about that as I purchased him with out a vet check...we are only asking $5000 and he has been very sound for us...maybe could have his hocks done;-) This horse is a huge sweety pie [edit]. As far as Kaitlyn goes, I refuse to stoop to her level. I am proud of the reputation I have built in California. Happy Monday all!!!

findeight
Jan. 21, 2013, 11:09 AM
HOUSEGUESTS:D.....popcorn anybody?

I so like it when somebody resurrects an old, relatively obscure thread to "defend themselves" from long forgotten accusations on either side, houseguests or not.

I give this a few hours for the lock as these 2 quibble back and forth about their personal business. Which 95% of us would never know of unless they brought it back up.

eclipse
Jan. 21, 2013, 11:12 AM
hmmmmm, 9:12am in Calgary..........is it too early for a martini? :lol:

Calvincrowe
Jan. 21, 2013, 11:37 AM
Some online digging and the plethora of PMs I've received from Oregon and Californian regular posters here (I know Horseymama by reputation on the A circuit) have given me plenty of information that supports the "houseguests" version of Ms. Biear's equine reputation, sadly. I don't know her, I really did just want some info to pass along all those many months ago, asked by a friend who was interested in the horses she had for sale online and in Oregon.

It is a bit of slow motion trainwreck, isn't it! More of a hillside, slowly sliding toward one's home, really.:cool:

trubandloki
Jan. 21, 2013, 11:42 AM
:eek: Seems like a strange reason to bump a very old thread.

Calvincrowe
Jan. 21, 2013, 12:15 PM
Trub- from what I gather on the local grapevine here, Ms. Biear listed a horse as stolen (color flyer and everything) in the Portland area, when it apparently had been sold, but perhaps not paid for...very confusing! I think the poster who resurrected it (accidentalcowgirl?) is involved in this situation. The trainer named by Ms. Biear (Eric Noel) is a judge and trainer in our area, who did indeed have some legal trouble 15 years ago regarding a horse he had in for training to be sold. I think it became a sue/counter sue situation over a fairly minor amount of $$.

I'm just home, bored, and local to the situation so it interests me when the person in question comes on board to defend (deflect?) herself so many months after the original, rather innocent, thread was posted by moi!

Heinz 57
Jan. 21, 2013, 12:19 PM
To also note, I turned down helping well known Kelly Maddox of Castro Valley, CA in helping her sell her 18 year old Hanoverian Gelding, Caspian (usef #: 4960900) who is a known stopper in the A circuit. It was disclosed to me from one of his previous owners he has ringbone and is not 15 as advertised nor what Kelly told me, but really 18. I DO suggest to everyone as posted from a previous comment against me, vet check before you buy. No one should end up with a mistake and have to pay for someone else is problem! When dealing with ANY sales or leases in my career, I screen what comes into me and I do have high standards versus others out there. Reason why any sale or lease horse does not last long in my barn. What you see is what you get, and this is also why I have clients who sign on for lessons and go into training with me year round.


As for all the other negative "multiple" posters that is clearly one person posting just under a different user name (only one post, logged in once and never again...) (thank you "Guin" for noticing this and along with several others), I am currently going through a personal litigation that this forum has been tried over and over again to be used against me with no avail. I have SEVERAL personal and professional contacts both nationally and internationally for my business and name that I am happy to personally supply to anyone who is interested and requests it. I have not gone under any other name(s) as also stated. Attaching others to gain an upper hand in things is very low... In the several years of my career as a professional, you will not find any negative comments anywhere until this forum with a starting date in March 2012 of when I retained my attorney. I do NOT run a sales barn and I have been working in the bay area for a while now. It wasn't till just recently that the other side in my personal litigation found out and therefor has posted once again. Any and all horses for sale/lease have passed their vet checks and have had their proof of ages and show records provided prior to any agreement signed. I have never had an unpaid boarding bill nor ever offered boarding or any breeding. If ANY of these claims were real, would I really still have any clients, be accepted to have my business at a boarding facility, or have any people leasing/buying any horses from/through me? I'm as honest as you get in the industry and that's why I still have a career with well known professionals to vouch on my behalf. Guess being so is a threat to those who are afraid to hind behind a screen name online. I have never been sued for unpaid bills with my horses and all my client and personally owned horses are treated to the highest respect and care. If anyone has any questions, always feel free to contact me. The only negative words you will ever hear about me are from the other side in my personal litigation or those who I have had to press charges against for not paying their bills or breaching a contractual agreement. Anyone else is going off of word of mouth from this forum and clearly does not know anything about myself in a personal nor professional standpoint.


I have been watching this post for a couple months now due to personal 3rd parties posting and trying to use it against me as an upper hand in a personal issue. As expected, it failed for them, but I'm here to clear my name since so many of you do not have any clue of what's going on.

As for Eric Noel of Portland, Oregon.
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1302920.html
He has a horrible reputation for not only taking other people's horses and selling them, but pocketing the money entirely. The mare's name is Rock-A-Bye usef #5021121, and clearly states she is a Thoroughbred with a history of being ridden by young riders. Eric has not paid a penny on the mare and there is current litigation going on for him to comply with a signed contract to do so. The mare has been reported stolen and Eric claimed he sold the horse. The owner's have not received a penny because of his unethical business practices. My question is, why would you guys keep such a horrible horse as stated that was misrepresented? Wouldn't you return her? It's clear you know exactly what you have and she is worth what she does, more so now Eric has sold her to a client as this post obviously stated.

People... think before you read and believe. If a horse is completely different then advertised or what the vet claims, why would someone buy, lease, or even ride it?

Just in case. :)

Kaitlyn Biear
Jan. 22, 2013, 03:45 AM
Thank you Kelly Maddox for clearing that up, although it was also brought to my attention that Caspian has changed names in the past as well... He had also been given away for free by a previous owner (that I know you are aware of) and then dropped off to a sales barn because of his stopping. He was apparently diagnosed around the age of 12 with documents from the vet, reason why he was rehomed for free.

And it seems you all have your answer(s), that indeed everything was word of mouth based off of those who did not follow through with their contractual deals, unpaid bills, or those who are not credible in the industry (or as stated on here, the same person going under a different screen name acting as multiple people).

As for Eric Noel, there have been several people in the Portland area that have contacted me about his past after the mare was posted stolen, and their legal battles with him about VERY similar situations if not the same, with the link being forwarded to me as well. It was nice of Eric to write a letter to me a couple months ago stating he sold the horse for $600.00 and his client clearly states that they were ripped of for thousands. I would LOVE to know where that money went, because it never came to our side. A previous trainer in the Portland area had leased a horse out to him for a year and his student and him ran the gelding into the ground, literally. She was one who contacted me to give me a heads up that the mare might be lame, because Eric's client and him never renewed a contract with her and her horse just days after expiring, she got stuck with all the vet bills and a permanently lame horse. I also was told of another horse who sustained a bone chip after returning from a lease with Eric and his client. The man is no good and his reputation speaks for itself, he obviously lies to his clients and rips off all those around them, even stated from a client of his own as it clearly reads. The owners of the mare have yet to receive one penny and have brought charges against him to get paid who will prevail because of a signed contract. Sad things come to that... No matter who you are.

It's also sad that others without morals like to pick on those to gain an upper hand in personal issues, and as stated by the original poster, you have allowed fuel to hit the fire for those to continue to prey on someone who has a positive reputation that is proven and backed by several well known professionals, thus the reason why I'm still in business with a positive career. Your friend/client as I recall was interested in a young prospect in my barn named Epic. He sold to another interested party, after I found out your friend gave me a trainer's name that verified she was not in training with them (if I'm incorrect about this situation, please do correct me, but I recall those of the past easily). Once again, I can be mistaken and if so, apologize in advance.

If the above rumors were true, I would not have a career to this day; just based on this thread alone. My horses, clients, and results speak for themselves. It's just nice to put the facts out there for all to see and read since hearsay is exactly that. Seems like I'm the only one who can prove anything and am happy to provide evidence to back it up.

Kaitlyn Biear
Jan. 22, 2013, 04:05 AM
"Calvinecrowe", I wouldn't guess that "Horseymama" would not of told you that she didn't have the proper insurance to run the facility she was and was asked to leave after the property owners discovered it. I was interested in moving a couple horses into her barn for a short time because of my pregnancy and am more then happy to provide the e-mails from the property owner about the situation where she did not have proper insurance and illegally took money from not only the clients but the property too. Once again, very sad and yet another one who backed up the other side in my personal litigation that did not benefit them in anyway. Best of luck Horseymama in your pregnancy now. I can only hope that you have the proper insurance and coverage to legally be running the property you've rented out all the way in Sisters, Oregon, well out of the area you used to be.

Calvincrowe
Jan. 22, 2013, 10:24 AM
I don't think Horseymama is who you think she is. Good luck, Ms. Biear, in your future endeavors.

bffequestrian
Jul. 24, 2013, 01:52 AM
A horse I had on consignment in the bay area was just stolen from me by this person on 7/22/13. She represented herself as an interested buyer under the name Kay, after signing a bill of sale and giving my agent a check for the horse she proceeded to take the horse to a pre-purchase exam. By 9:00 at night she had not returned the horse nor called to say the vetting had gone well. It turns out she never had any intention of buying the horse, but rather sent an email later last night claiming to have a lien on him. We have a paper trail on this horse going back 6 months to prove ownership of him. I have not met her directly, as everything was handled by my agent. I have sent out mass emails to bay area trainers and boarding stables to keep a look out for my horse. I have filed a report with the county sheriff department for horse theft and also check fraud as the check she wrote us was from a new account with no funds. Posts like this never die down because this person is still out committing crimes and harming our horse community. I am posting because this person needs to be stopped. I have already received phone calls from fellow bay area trainers ready to vouch for me. I would also like help locating my horse, he is a black/bay tb gelding about 16h 12-15 yrs old. 2 hind socks. Lesson horse type. We believe she has him in the Portola Valley area. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Katie

ParadoxFarm
Jul. 24, 2013, 12:47 PM
Sorry to hear of your trouble, bffequestrian, and I hope you get your horse. That being said, it is a good reminder to sellers to either get payment in cash, or a verified (call the bank) cashier's check, never a personal check. Too much fraud to trust complete strangers, or even folks you somewhat know.

Again, I wish you luck!!

accidental cowgirl
Jul. 24, 2013, 03:58 PM
I'm sure the reason Kaitlyn is posting the rants about Eric Noel is that he prevailed in the court case in Bend, OR in which he sued her over unpaid expenses for the chestnut mare in question, which she stated she owned. He sold the horse under Oregon laws which allows a lien for unpaid expenses, and the horse was sold according to the legal process with full legal notifications. There are NO claims against him in regard to the horse. No wonder she links to a very old partnership dispute case instead of the relevant one. Some of her other claims are also clearly only for the purpose of defaming him - the horse whose lease terminated after an injury was 16 or 17 years old (I was riding in the barn regularly with the girl who leased him) and it turned out had previously been laid off for the same injury. It was of great disappointment to all that he was hurt, but he was not overworked or misused and in fact had been fine the day before but then turned up lame when he was brought in from turnout. And claiming that Eric Noel is responsible for a horse getting a bone chip AFTER it left his barn is completely ludicrous. I hope bffequestrian can recover her horse quickly.

Sfbayequine
Jul. 24, 2013, 05:56 PM
bffequestrian - I am so sorry you are going through this. I PM'd you. Here is some info that might help you actually locate her or give the Sheriffs department some additional leads as well as give others researching her more information on all the businesses and alias she has used thus far.

My earlier post that she was doing business under Derby Stride farm is now obsolete. There is no longer a website for Derby Stride. From the Facebook links, she may be using the name Signature Farms. There is a reference to work experience there, however, there is not one of her cut & paste website formats that comes up on Google for the new barn name or a list of sale horses. There are a ton of Signature Farms listings in CA on Google, so a very generic and easy name to use.

There are recent Facebook posts under her Derby Stride farm business page. There is no business page for Signiture Farms yet. You may be able to find other trainers and stables she has "liked" to get a better list of who to contact for your missing horse issue.

Derby Stride Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/derbystride.farm

Link to Signiture Farms on FB with no info: https://www.facebook.com/derbystride.farm#!/pages/Signature-Farms/122313174457412

There is a Signature Farms in Southern CA, but nothing in No. Cal. The last known location for her was at a training barn in Livermore about 7 months ago after she left the Castro Valley locations noted in posts up the line.

Here is a link to her Devonshire Farms enterprise with address and phone info in Burlingame: http://companies.findthecompany.com/l/6949089/Devonshire-Farms-in-Burlingame-CA

I was lucky - very lucky - that I was able to stop a transaction with her on an injured horse. Some may think the posters who come back here are trolls or only trying to stir the pot... All I can tell you is that every person who has come on here and has been injured in some way is most likely telling the truth. All the stories are close enough to her standard con that they ring true to me. I am no longer a "greenie poster," and while my comments about Ms. Biear were what brought me to COTH, I am very happy I found the forums.

She has restarted this business over and over under fictitious business names and different identities. Other than my opinion of her character (con artist / sociopath), her pop up companies are the only thing I will speak to publicly as I have the links above for people to investigate on their own and it is tangible.

Updated List of Aliases:

Kate Biear
Katie Biear
Katlyn Bier
Catronia Bier
Kay Biear

Devonshire Farms
Derbystride Farms
Signature Farms

Remember, these threads are searchable from Google, so listing out all the aliases will result in her names, company names etc. to come up if people are smart enough to do their on line searches and research. Google is your friend!

Hjridersf
Jul. 24, 2013, 06:04 PM
Katie of bffequine. Your horse was not stolen as you never paid for it. Police have told you the same as all the paperwork is with them and shows you do not have legal rights or ownership of the horse. You have not even been able to verify payment on him to them. When you don't pay for it and drop it off to a sales barn to sell it for fast cash, someone is bound to find out. You never notified the seller that there was a legal lien on the horse for failure to pay. And to Eric Noel's fanatic. It makes me laugh that you believe his lies. Maybe he should show you the real paperwork he didn't just make up. Court awarded the horse back to Kaitlyn and this paperwork I have seen personally. There is a reason why Eric has been from property to property and been in several legal battles over the past several years. He's still appealing the case mentioned above! He is still trying to go after people in that case who have passed away. The man has a serious mental disorder and fabricates paperwork without any signatures from the court (I.e. a judge) to show the paperwork was even filed. Eric has been in lawsuits in several states. Easy records search. Kaitlyn still has a good business and is knowledgeable in what she does. Her horses are honest and well cared for. If she wasn't she would not be in the industry today. But people like Eric and Katie really do deserve to have the law stuck to them on trying to take advantage of others. For sure when u have no proof of ownership, no legal rights to the horse, and never paid for it.

catknsn
Nov. 18, 2013, 08:03 PM
Allegedly, Kaitlyn has now pulled a Wendy Hsue.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=670270293004755&set=a.345575842140870.84004.326594760705645&type=1

Calvincrowe
Nov. 18, 2013, 10:10 PM
Well, I see that all the bad stuff folks have posted about her over the past couple of years on this recurring thread are true. My Calvin was stolen by the lessee in much the same manner: I was told my horse had died by her, then he was sold on Dreamhorse.

vxf111
Nov. 18, 2013, 10:34 PM
Well, I see that all the bad stuff folks have posted about her over the past couple of years on this recurring thread are true. My Calvin was stolen by the lessee in much the same manner: I was told my horse had died by her, then he was sold on Dreamhorse.

Have you tracked him down? OMG?

hoopoe
Nov. 19, 2013, 08:53 AM
vxf111 Yes Calvin was tracked down, it was quite an episode here on COTH many years ago

sadly Calvin left this last month due to a sudden and fatal colic

vxf111
Nov. 19, 2013, 08:56 AM
vxf111 Yes Calvin was tracked down, it was quite an episode here on COTH many years ago

sadly Calvin left this last month due to a sudden and fatal colic

I totally missed it. Thank goodness she got him back!

EquineRacers
Nov. 19, 2013, 04:08 PM
Had my first and bad encourter with Katie Biear, earlier in the year I gave her an older gelding as a kids lead line/grooming horse she put up a good front and I figured he was going to be in good hands with the way she presented herself and her website at the time, Derby Stride Farms. In August, I recieved an update from her stating the horse died in her pasture and was sadden but didn't think too much of it since he was 22! Come to find this past saturday he shows up at Turlock Auction! A friend of mine stopped him and we pulled him from the auction, he is safe now. Upond research we found a sales add for him stating a different age, breed, and ability, but that picture was sure his! Beware, this girl is a good good liar! So glad the horse is safe, however that was luck!

beowulf
Nov. 19, 2013, 04:32 PM
Amazing that nobody has smacked her in the head with a skillet and claimed a horse kicked her.


^ amen! pulled from the FB page about Pilot. Glad I took the time to read this thread.

horserescue
Jan. 14, 2014, 11:38 PM
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/4282699843.html

Timex
Jan. 15, 2014, 02:15 PM
... If ANY of these claims were real, would I really still have any clients, be accepted to have my business at a boarding facility, or have any people leasing/buying any horses from/through me?...


sorry, but this made me chuckle. cuz we all know that NO dishonest trainers manage to stay in business long, do they. lol. with the day I'm having I needed the laugh.

BITSA
Jan. 15, 2014, 02:16 PM
Express opinions as opposed to factual conclusions (ie "in my opinion she is X or Y" as oppposed to just "she is X or Y". Just my legal advice on avoiding a defamation claim. And being one of those few horse poeple in Oregon :)

Kaitlyn Biear
Feb. 20, 2014, 04:06 PM
Express opinions as opposed to factual conclusions (ie "in my opinion she is X or Y" as oppposed to just "she is X or Y". Just my legal advice on avoiding a defamation claim. And being one of those few horse poeple in Oregon :)

Thank you BITSA, as you are very correct in your above statement.

Update to all who think they know what's going on.

Katie Flanagan of BFF Equestrian, you still have never pursued anything legal against me for Vincent. Although, I would think that would go in hand with what the police told you and the police report about you stealing Vincent and not paying for him. I just hope that the sales barn you worked with got their money for your misrepresentation.

Eric Noel of Chase Riding. He is once again up to no good (what a shock). He is still in possession of my stolen mare and if anyone wants to believe the BS stories and lies his girlfriend, Kindy Pool wants to write about me on here or say in person, feel free to, but I believe the evidence speaks for itself. Kindy and Eric are trying to sell Rock-A-Bye (USEF #5021121) under a different name (Trade Wind). This can easily be seen under the youtube search of "Trade Wind and Kindy Pool", as they only have one video. It can also be seen with picture proof under The Chase Riding page(s) on Facebook. After talking with Eric, what several others have told me by phone, email, and facebook private messages, he is NOT new to this game what so ever and Rock-A-Bye is having soundness issues. If anyone purchases Rock-A-Bye, she can easily be traced and you will loose your money from the purchase after the judgement is signed where I can physically go on the property and get her back, if I want to, no matter who is in current possession.

Please do go back to the previous posts in this forum where Eric Noel's "fans" bad mouth to a max about Rock-A-Bye and are now advertising her for the SAME EXACT asking price, experience, etc, as when I had her and was selling her, before Eric Noel and his third party stole her from a private barn in Bend, Oregon.

To the previous owner of Pilot (Regal Sal) and Sara of CANTER Thoroughbreds. I adopted Pilot sight unseen in February of 2013. I was told he was bombproof and sound, but couldn't do the big mountain trails anymore because of his old age but would be a perfect kids horse. After he arrived, he was much more advanced in his arthritis than originally told. He was a total gentleman except for the fact he did not settle in in our barn because our neighbors had cows and he began to stress. We moved him to the other side of the property and he still was stressing after two weeks. I did not think it was appropriate to keep him and allow him to stress anymore and contacted Jim down in So Cal about this. He admitted he never saw Pilot around cows. He also stated he was not willing to take him back because he couldn't (or didn't want to), but none the less he stated he would contact Sara with CANTER and they would begin searching for a new home as I would on my end as well. Shortly there after, Pilot was rehomed to Almaden Equestrian Center in San Jose, CA where he was owned, managed, cared for, etc all by them and their staff. It was not till after he was picked up at Auction several months later that I was informed of what happened AND wrongfully blamed for dropping him off at auction. I DO NOT go to auctions, have never received a horse or dropped a horse off to auction and have never had any intentions of doing so. Pilot had a contract with Almaden Equestrian Center where I would get first refusal if he was to ever be rehomed OR at least told where he would go so he would not end up in a sour position. The barn obviously did not follow through with this, as I was told from them that their excuse was, they could not contact me... My e-mail and facebook contact has NEVER changed. And the story of me writing an e-mail where he passed away is completely sickening, as he was not even in my care and no longer owned by me.

FOR ANYONE who wants to make a quick judgement and quickly state you know someone when I have never done business with you or ever done business in the state you claim, double check your records and claims. Eric Noel is still in a contentious legal battle where he is not allowed to sell Rock-A-Bye and is now misleading others to believe she is another horse when she isn't.

To date, I am still able to run my business with several clients both East Coast and West Coast as well as internationally. USEF has NEVER investigated me and neither has anyone else. ALL my personal and client horses/ponies are well cared for to a max. They are gold to me and everyone else who is with them. They get whatever is required for health both physically and mentally and IF a situation is not right, they are rehomed.

The OTTB gelding named Visiual Intensity who had three bone chips in his left front ankle was rehomed for free with a contract stating NO AUCTION and first refusal. The entire vet report and x-rays where released to the new owner and he is in a wonderful new home in California. This is one example of the type of person I am and my business. Visual Intensity was retired from the track, as we were told, sound but sore and needed a little time off. After his down time from the track he was showing up lame. Was vetted, and x-rayed. Had professional opinions state his jumping career would never be able to happen and therefor we did what was right by finding him a wonderful and loving home for the rest of his life. This can be seen on Facebook where he was advertised, as I believe the craigslist ads are now expired.

We have several horses that will be hitting the A circuit this year and you can bet there will be many more. The product speaks for itself, not what some hearsay person has to say. Just figured all you "activists" on here would be interested in a general update since you don't have anything better to do with your lives.

findeight
Feb. 20, 2014, 04:23 PM
Actually, most of us forgot about this and don't care about personal disputes among a handful of posters unknown to 98% of us.

But you brought it back to light to refresh our memories with both sides of the story. It'll also go to the top on GOOGLE again.

HighFlyinBey++
Feb. 20, 2014, 04:26 PM
Thank you BITSA, as you are very correct in your above statement.

Update to all who think they know what's going on.

Katie Flanagan of BFF Equestrian, you still have never pursued anything legal against me for Vincent. Although, I would think that would go in hand with what the police told you and the police report about you stealing Vincent and not paying for him. I just hope that the sales barn you worked with got their money for your misrepresentation.

Eric Noel of Chase Riding. He is once again up to no good (what a shock). He is still in possession of my stolen mare and if anyone wants to believe the BS stories and lies his girlfriend, Kindy Pool wants to write about me on here or say in person, feel free to, but I believe the evidence speaks for itself. Kindy and Eric are trying to sell Rock-A-Bye (USEF #5021121) under a different name (Trade Wind). This can easily be seen under the youtube search of "Trade Wind and Kindy Pool", as they only have one video. It can also be seen with picture proof under The Chase Riding page(s) on Facebook. After talking with Eric, what several others have told me by phone, email, and facebook private messages, he is NOT new to this game what so ever and Rock-A-Bye is having soundness issues. If anyone purchases Rock-A-Bye, she can easily be traced and you will loose your money from the purchase after the judgement is signed where I can physically go on the property and get her back, if I want to, no matter who is in current possession.

Please do go back to the previous posts in this forum where Eric Noel's "fans" bad mouth to a max about Rock-A-Bye and are now advertising her for the SAME EXACT asking price, experience, etc, as when I had her and was selling her, before Eric Noel and his third party stole her from a private barn in Bend, Oregon.

To the previous owner of Pilot (Regal Sal) and Sara of CANTER Thoroughbreds. I adopted Pilot sight unseen in February of 2013. I was told he was bombproof and sound, but couldn't do the big mountain trails anymore because of his old age but would be a perfect kids horse. After he arrived, he was much more advanced in his arthritis than originally told. He was a total gentleman except for the fact he did not settle in in our barn because our neighbors had cows and he began to stress. We moved him to the other side of the property and he still was stressing after two weeks. I did not think it was appropriate to keep him and allow him to stress anymore and contacted Jim down in So Cal about this. He admitted he never saw Pilot around cows. He also stated he was not willing to take him back because he couldn't (or didn't want to), but none the less he stated he would contact Sara with CANTER and they would begin searching for a new home as I would on my end as well. Shortly there after, Pilot was rehomed to Almaden Equestrian Center in San Jose, CA where he was owned, managed, cared for, etc all by them and their staff. It was not till after he was picked up at Auction several months later that I was informed of what happened AND wrongfully blamed for dropping him off at auction. I DO NOT go to auctions, have never received a horse or dropped a horse off to auction and have never had any intentions of doing so. Pilot had a contract with Almaden Equestrian Center where I would get first refusal if he was to ever be rehomed OR at least told where he would go so he would not end up in a sour position. The barn obviously did not follow through with this, as I was told from them that their excuse was, they could not contact me... My e-mail and facebook contact has NEVER changed. And the story of me writing an e-mail where he passed away is completely sickening, as he was not even in my care and no longer owned by me.

FOR ANYONE who wants to make a quick judgement and quickly state you know someone when I have never done business with you or ever done business in the state you claim, double check your records and claims. Eric Noel is still in a contentious legal battle where he is not allowed to sell Rock-A-Bye and is now misleading others to believe she is another horse when she isn't.

To date, I am still able to run my business with several clients both East Coast and West Coast as well as internationally. USEF has NEVER investigated me and neither has anyone else. ALL my personal and client horses/ponies are well cared for to a max. They are gold to me and everyone else who is with them. They get whatever is required for health both physically and mentally and IF a situation is not right, they are rehomed.

The OTTB gelding named Visiual Intensity who had three bone chips in his left front ankle was rehomed for free with a contract stating NO AUCTION and first refusal. The entire vet report and x-rays where released to the new owner and he is in a wonderful new home in California. This is one example of the type of person I am and my business. Visual Intensity was retired from the track, as we were told, sound but sore and needed a little time off. After his down time from the track he was showing up lame. Was vetted, and x-rayed. Had professional opinions state his jumping career would never be able to happen and therefor we did what was right by finding him a wonderful and loving home for the rest of his life. This can be seen on Facebook where he was advertised, as I believe the craigslist ads are now expired.

We have several horses that will be hitting the A circuit this year and you can bet there will be many more. The product speaks for itself, not what some hearsay person has to say. Just figured all you "activists" on here would be interested in a general update since you don't have anything better to do with your lives.
:rolleyes:

Belmont
Feb. 20, 2014, 04:47 PM
I love these threads. I just always forget to bring the good popcorn.

eclipse
Feb. 20, 2014, 05:10 PM
Awwwwwwww, was somebody needing some attention today????? :lol: :rolleyes:

Kaitlyn Biear
Feb. 20, 2014, 06:06 PM
Actually, most of us forgot about this and don't care about personal disputes among a handful of posters unknown to 98% of us.

But you brought it back to light to refresh our memories with both sides of the story. It'll also go to the top on GOOGLE again.

Well, you almost got it right... No one cares what you think. For sure when you are wrong and a follower with no life. You are very quick to dismiss it all after being proven wrong. Big opinions from you and others with no evidence to back it. Plus, it's been at the top of google for a while. I know I'm not that important. But maybe you and the others should stop the highschool drama games. Pick a real hobby. Instead of talking about how to do it, maybe go out and prove yourself. Anyone can write anything on the Internet. Doesn't mean it's true. Thus why I have no worries of posting the truth with hard evidence and witnesses to back. Doesn't hurt me, only you.

And no I'm not looking for attention "eclipse". Seems like your begging for it with a comment like that. Are we older than 15? Grow up and act your real age, not your horse's age.

HighFlyinBey++
Feb. 20, 2014, 08:57 PM
Well, you almost got it right... No one cares what you think. For sure when you are wrong and a follower with no life. You are very quick to dismiss it all after being proven wrong. Big opinions from you and others with no evidence to back it. Plus, it's been at the top of google for a while. I know I'm not that important. But maybe you and the others should stop the highschool drama games. Pick a real hobby. Instead of talking about how to do it, maybe go out and prove yourself. Anyone can write anything on the Internet. Doesn't mean it's true. Thus why I have no worries of posting the truth with hard evidence and witnesses to back. Doesn't hurt me, only you.

And no I'm not looking for attention "eclipse". Seems like your begging for it with a comment like that. Are we older than 15? Grow up and act your real age, not your horse's age.
:sleepy:

Moderator 1
Feb. 21, 2014, 11:40 AM
We're going to close this thread, as it's getting into personal commentary, and the parties involved would be better served to address their legal issues, etc. through appropriate channels vs. going back and forth with each other on this site.

Thanks,
Mod 1