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ake987
Jun. 7, 2011, 11:48 AM
And a 5'3", 110lbs rider who has a fairly normal femur length, but is very short (14" :eek:) from knee to ankle?

My budget is ideally ~$3k or less, new or used, I found a Schleese Link with extra short flaps for a great price.. but my trainer and chiro gave it the axe because it has air panels and they both have had bad experiences with air panels on saddles of any kind. :(

I'm an eventer and this will be my first dressage saddle, so any general knowledge, advice or rec's would be much appreciated!

If it helps, confo photos:

Side view (http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp207/amykeisenberg/Jake/815e8cd9.jpg)

Angle view (http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp207/amykeisenberg/Jake/e434dd59.jpg)

And just because I think those pictures don't do him him any favors/justice, I, of course, have to throw in one where he doesn't look dull and blah! =P
Still bad quality but.. meh! (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252853_652210328290_17904736_34957895_4225711_n.jp g)


Thanks in advance!

rprincess73
Jun. 7, 2011, 12:18 PM
I am 5'4"...knee to ankle is 15" and I LOVE my Toulouse Aachen saddle (MW tree - 17" seat). It has fit a Trakehner and a TB (the Trake had a sharkfin, too). I was able to find mine used (only 4 times) for $700. This was before they came out with the Genesis line - which is FULLY adjustable. Brand new - $1595. With the Trake - I used a regular saddle pad and then a Roma wither relief. Worked like a charm!

The Toulouse has more of a forward flap, as well...and I noticed that it has helped me transition from the h/j world to dressage pretty well. There are also removable/moveable blocks at the leg - under the flap (they velcro). Personally - I don't use those (took them off) due to my leg being short.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb306/rprincess73/Toulouseside.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb306/rprincess73/ToulouseSeat.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb306/rprincess73/ToulouseRight.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb306/rprincess73/Toulouserear.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb306/rprincess73/toulouse20front.jpg

amastrike
Jun. 7, 2011, 12:30 PM
Can you get the Schleese and have the panels changed to wool?

ake987
Jun. 7, 2011, 07:54 PM
I am 5'4"...knee to ankle is 15" and I LOVE my Toulouse Aachen saddle (MW tree - 17" seat). It has fit a Trakehner and a TB (the Trake had a sharkfin, too). I was able to find mine used (only 4 times) for $700. This was before they came out with the Genesis line - which is FULLY adjustable. Brand new - $1595. With the Trake - I used a regular saddle pad and then a Roma wither relief. Worked like a charm!

The Toulouse has more of a forward flap, as well...and I noticed that it has helped me transition from the h/j world to dressage pretty well. There are also removable/moveable blocks at the leg - under the flap (they velcro). Personally - I don't use those (took them off) due to my leg being short.


I will definitely ask the saddle fitter about those, what a great price for a good lookin' saddle! Thanks!


Can you get the Schleese and have the panels changed to wool?

This is a question I have asked myself and cannot tell you why I haven't moved my fingers and e-mailed the lovely woman at FUS to ask. Thank you for providing the fire under my tush to do so. :lol:

FlashGordon
Jun. 7, 2011, 08:13 PM
Hmm just send your horse to me and then you won't have to worry about a saddle.... :winkgrin:

crickett14502
Jun. 7, 2011, 08:33 PM
I'm 5'4" and about 150#. I have a 16.3 mw tb and a 15.0 mw lipizzan. They both fit beautifully in her Kieffer Wein. LOVE this saddle, love how it fits on the horses. The lipi was professionally fitted (Anne, equestrian imports) and I cannot recommend this woman enough!! She found this great saddle at an unbelievable price and is honest as they come. LOVE her and this saddle. :-)

ake987
Jun. 7, 2011, 08:41 PM
Hmm just send your horse to me and then you won't have to worry about a saddle.... :winkgrin:

Hehehe.. I just told my boyfriend that for the first time, someone liked my horse enough to want him for their own in a cute COTH comment. He humored me and said "wow!", bless him.


I'm 5'4" and about 150#. I have a 16.3 mw tb and a 15.0 mw lipizzan. They both fit beautifully in her Kieffer Wein. LOVE this saddle, love how it fits on the horses. The lipi was professionally fitted (Anne, equestrian imports) and I cannot recommend this woman enough!! She found this great saddle at an unbelievable price and is honest as they come. LOVE her and this saddle. :-)


AH! I spoke on the phone with Anne today! She is who I will be working with. :) Glad to hear from someone on COTH (highly recommended by my trainer) that also loves her! She will be here in July. I'm going to get photos and tracings out to her this week. :D

cmdrcltr
Jun. 7, 2011, 08:42 PM
The Trilogy saddles--you might find a used one in your price range--have front gussets that can help a wider saddle get the lift it needs to clear the shark fin. I thought my horse needed a MN tree to clear his wither and was shocked when the Trilogy wide demo saddle that the fitter had with him almost fit and certainly had plenty of wither clearance. Fitter said horse was really a MW; he just needed the right saddle to clear the wither.

Sister7
Jun. 7, 2011, 08:46 PM
I'm 5'4" and my TB looks a lot like yours. Albion offers a "high head" model (stamped HH) that fit my guy wonderfully. Their standard flap was too long for me, but they do offer a short flap. You might be able to find one used. I have always wanted to try a Trilogy Debbie McDonald. I tried a used Trilogy Verago and it had plenty of wither clearance on my horse but wasn't quite right for me. The elite leather on that Trilogy was dreamy. Right now I'm riding in a Thorowgood T4 high wither dressage saddle (it's synthetic only $550 brand new from Dover). Fits my guy great and is manageable for me. The flaps are too long, but with moveable blocks I'm comfortable enough for now. I'm think I'm going for a full custom Borne or maybe that Albion when I manage to stash away enough pennies.

JB
Jun. 7, 2011, 09:37 PM
County Warmblood would for sure be worth looking into

A.D.
Jun. 8, 2011, 10:58 AM
I have one of the new Wintec Pros for my mare with similar back conformation to your guy (except I think she has wider shoulders that are also a little tricky to accomodate - everyone wants to put a saddle too far forward on her and that blocks her shoulders). The saddle fits her like it was made for her. I'm 5'3 with short legs in general and it fits me too (I don't love it, but it does the job). The flaps are fairly short and I have the contourbloc model which I expected to hate (blocks usually hit me in the wrong place), but they fit well.

I really wanted the Albion with the high head, but they are a semi custom and the rep I was working with said it would be a 16 week wait. I needed something right away, so got the Wintec, but will most likely move up to the Albion in the next year or so. Luckily my mare isn't changing much anymore.