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Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 3, 2011, 08:44 PM
The field for tomorrow's big race. The Queen's horse, Carlton House is fancied again, having drifted out in price earlier in the week when there were some doubts whether he would run.

Derby Stakes G1
1m4f10y
£1.25m (~$2.05m)
Colts and Fillies, 3yo

CARLTON HOUSE ----- Ryan Moore ----- Sir Michael Stoute ----- 5/2
CASTLEMORRIS KING ----- Mark Coumbe ----- Michael Attwater ----- 750/1
MARHABA MALYOON ----- Jamie Spencer ----- David Simcock ----- 500/1
MASKED MARVEL ----- William Buick ----- John Gosden ----- 33/1
MEMPHIS TENNESSEE ----- J P O'Brien ----- A P O´Brien ----- 28/1
NATIVE KHAN ----- J Murtagh ----- Ed Dunlop ----- 10/1
OCEAN WAR ----- Frankie Dettori ----- Mahmood Al Zarooni ----- 16/1
PISCO SOUR ----- Jimmy Fortune ----- Hughie Morrison ----- 100/1
POUR MOI ----- Mickael Barzalona ----- A Fabre ----- 11/2
RECITAL ----- Kieren Fallon ----- A P O´Brien ----- 9/2
SEVILLE ----- Christophe Soumillon ----- A P O´Brien ----- 7/1
TREASURE BEACH ----- C O'Donoghue ----- A P O´Brien ----- 33/1
VADAMAR ----- Christophe-Patrice Lemaire ----- A De Royer-Dupre ----- 20/1

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 3, 2011, 08:54 PM
To whet your appetite for the big one tomorrow, here are replays of the two big races at Epsom today, the Oaks G1 for the fillies and the Coronation Cup G1 for older horses, both run over the same course and distance as the Derby.

Front running ride from Johnny Murtagh on Dancing Rain in the Oaks. You'll also get to see Frankie Dettori pick up a 10 day ban for dropping his hands on board fav Blue Bunting... http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,423855,00.html

St Nicholas Abbey rallies to beat top mare and BC F&M Turf winner, Midday, in the Coronation, after she passed him in the straight. St Nick is a horse with a lot of heart... http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,426698,00.html

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 4, 2011, 10:40 AM
A 9am this morning appeals court decision has barred Kieren Fallon from riding in the Derby.
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/recital-a-p-obrien-epsom-derby-epsom-kieren-fallon-barred-from-derby-ride-by-appeal-court/866318/top/

Pat Smullen will fly in from Ireland at the last minute to ride Recital.

dressagetraks
Jun. 4, 2011, 10:42 AM
So if Frankie got 10 days for blowing it yesterday, is he allowed to ride today?

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 4, 2011, 12:04 PM
What a finish.. and what a ride from the young French kid... Mikaeal Barzalona.

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 4, 2011, 12:09 PM
A Coolmore 1-2 (albeit with the winner trained in France by Andre Fabre), to upset the hopes of a Royal win, with the Queen's horse coming in 3rd.
A couple of weeks ago the Queen had a private lunch at Coolmore, during her visit to Ireland.

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 4, 2011, 12:49 PM
Replay of the Derby... http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,426697,00.html

Jesus people, don't all post at once now, it's only the Derby.

vineyridge
Jun. 4, 2011, 01:35 PM
Out of 13 horses, Coolmore had five--1, 2, 4, 6 and 10. Godolphin had only one, but their Darley branch bred Carlton House.

What does it take to get a start in THE Derby?

Paragon
Jun. 4, 2011, 02:38 PM
WOW, what a run! Just... wow.

SEPowell
Jun. 4, 2011, 02:39 PM
Replay of the Derby... http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,426697,00.html

Thank you for the link. I love the horse, jockey and the commentary was great!

dressagetraks
Jun. 4, 2011, 03:03 PM
Great race and great ride!

Glimmerglass
Jun. 4, 2011, 06:02 PM
Great ride - of sorts - as I take issue (as did the stewards) with the brass-balls celebration at the wire by jockey (image) 19-yr old Mickael Barzalona (http://equidaily.com/images/2011/epsomd1.jpg)

Dude, with only the nose win, that was waaaaaaay too soon to start the victory-in-the-irons junk.

Sorry The Queen's horse could only hit the board, but he had all the opportunities to do take it all.

Mara
Jun. 4, 2011, 06:04 PM
Great race, love the breeding on the winner, bummer that the Queen couldn't have a winner.

(And am just the teeniest bit disappointed to see the Coolmore people win it again).

Glimmerglass
Jun. 4, 2011, 06:26 PM
For those Royal watchers - yes, Kate and Price William were there to support The Queen (http://www.celebuzz.com/2011-06-04/prince-william-and-kate-middleton-step-out-for-epsom-derby-photos/)

Alas HRH The Queen didn't look happy (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/8557340/The-Derby-2011-the-Queen-misses-out-on-fairytale-victory-as-Pour-Moi-overcomes-Carlton-House.html) with the outcome although 3/4 lengths behind the winner is no reason to sulk. This is the first French trained horse to win Epsom since 1976.


André Fabre, a former jump jockey who has been champion trainer in France for 22 seasons and won the Prix de L’Arc de Triomphe seven times.

Fabre, who has not spoken to the French racing press for 24 years, has a better relationship with the British press. He excused Barzalona’s premature celebration as "youthfulness" but added he would, indeed, be having a "quiet word" with him about it.

MightyBobbyMagee
Jun. 4, 2011, 06:33 PM
A 9am this morning appeals court decision has barred Kieren Fallon from riding in the Derby.
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/recital-a-p-obrien-epsom-derby-epsom-kieren-fallon-barred-from-derby-ride-by-appeal-court/866318/top/


I know Fallon is an incredible jockey, but he has a horrible attitude. The guy's a total jerk.

Slewdledo
Jun. 5, 2011, 04:20 AM
I have to think the winning rider thought all he had to catch was Carlton House and missed Treasure Beach completely.

Aidan O'Brien's kid can really ride, too.

vineyridge
Jun. 5, 2011, 09:51 AM
I know Fallon is an incredible jockey, but he has a horrible attitude. The guy's a total jerk.

Maybe he's back snorting things he shouldn't. I wonder if he's racing in France again. Aren't they the jurisdiction who caught him last time?

pnalley
Jun. 5, 2011, 09:55 AM
The Queen always looks like she is sucking a persimmons. Nothing new there

I really enjoyed the second race posted with the St Nick horse. I never would have believed a horse could get so out of sorts than come back like she did.

Mara
Jun. 5, 2011, 11:47 AM
I have to think the winning rider thought all he had to catch was Carlton House and missed Treasure Beach completely.

Aidan O'Brien's kid can really ride, too.


Is it just me or is JP O'Brien really tall for a jockey?

Re: Fallon - I remember a few years back when he had an affair with a well-known trainer's wife - anyone remember who? Was it Henry Cecil's?

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 5, 2011, 01:25 PM
Is it just me or is JP O'Brien really tall for a jockey?



Joseph o'Brien is close to 6ft, so he only has maybe another year or two at the most as a flat jockey before he gets too big to make weight. He'll then probably follow in his Dad's footsteps and become a jump jockey. And yes he can ride, he won a silver medal in the European junior Eventing championships last year.
Did a great job on the pacemaker yesterday, and held on for 4th ahead of his more fancied stablemates.

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 5, 2011, 01:35 PM
The Queen always looks like she is sucking a persimmons. Nothing new there

I really enjoyed the second race posted with the St Nick horse. I never would have believed a horse could get so out of sorts than come back like she did.

He... St Nicholas Abbey is a colt.
Looks like he might finally fulfill the promise he showed as a 2yo after dissapointing somewhat last year as a 3yo.

vineyridge
Jun. 5, 2011, 03:38 PM
Article on Fallon before he was prevented from riding.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/fallon-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-2666449.html

He really is a sleazeball. He and Dutrow would make brothers seem too distantly related.

vineyridge
Jun. 5, 2011, 03:48 PM
Just read an article that says Pour Moi's young jock just got set down a day for excessive use of the whip. Until races are forfeited for that infraction, there is no bite to the rule.

Article also says that for his showboating, the jock would have been set down for 2 months in Australia.

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 5, 2011, 04:49 PM
Just read an article that says Pour Moi's young jock just got set down a day for excessive use of the whip. Until races are forfeited for that infraction, there is no bite to the rule.

What race did you watch?
His overuse of the whip was minimal at best. He hit the horse a total of 9 times in the final 2f. What he more than likely recieved the ban for was the point about 100 yards out where he hits the horse and then again two strides later. English rules state that you must give the horse a minimum of three strides to respond.
You want to see excessive use of the whip, here watch America's hero Calvin Borel whipping the arse and shoulder off of Rachel Alexandra in the Woodward (http://youtu.be/ysO_Fhc8Fpw). That's like 20 times in the final furlong, for which he didn't even recieve a warning, let alone a ban.


Article also says that for his showboating, the jock would have been set down for 2 months in Australia.

Kid should receive a medal. He's one of the best things to happen to racing in long time. What he did broke no rules. Yes, it was cheeky, cocky and took balls of brass and supreme self confidence.

SEPowell
Jun. 5, 2011, 06:34 PM
Kid should receive a medal. He's one of the best things to happen to racing in long time. What he did broke no rules. Yes, it was cheeky, cocky and took balls of brass and supreme self confidence.

It was also so spontaneous that I don't he could have suppressed it if he'd tried. And thank goodness he didn't!! It was a thrilling race and a great way to end it.

Glimmerglass
Jun. 6, 2011, 11:29 AM
Another big race on the line and a lost shoe costing victory ...

UK: The Independent "Lost shoe costs Queen her first Derby victory" (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/racing/lost-shoe-costs-queen-her-first-derby-victory-2293206.html)


The Queen was denied her first victory in the race when her horse Carlton House, the pre-race favourite, finished third. It was later discovered the horse lost a shoe in the final furlong. Experts estimated yesterday that the shoe had saved bookmakers an estimated £20m payout.

The Queen was joined at Epsom by the Duke of Edinburgh, Prince William and his wife, the Duchess of Cambridge, plus Prince Harry, as they hoped to see history being made. Coming as it did after her historic visit to Ireland, the marriage of her grandson and a state visit by President Obama, there was a feeling her good fortunes would transfer to the race track.

Race replay: Investec Derby 2011 at Epsom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FAcL6iLMQ)

Glimmerglass
Jun. 9, 2011, 10:31 AM
If want Carlton House's lost shoe - you can bid for it (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/racing-welfare-carlton-house-derby-shoe-to-be-auctioned-for-charity/868329/top/) as its going up for charity.


Racing Welfare spokesman Richard Negus said: "As you might expect we are doing cartwheels here, and once we have received it we will ask Sir Michael [Stoute] and Ryan Moore to sign it's mounting plaque.

"We shall also ask the palace if the Queen would consider authenticating it too. John Warren has confirmed that the shoe is the 'real deal' and it will add an extra interest to the auction which we hope will raise significant funds for Racing Welfare.

"So we will have a situation where the Queen's daughter will be present at the auction of the shoe that lost her mother the Derby when that fateful piece of metal returns to Epsom on July 14."