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Meshach
Apr. 22, 2011, 09:02 AM
The box fans you can buy at Wal-Mart or Target aren't really safe for barns. And the industrial fans that I have seen online seem so BIG. And look like they weight a ton! I need ones that go on the stalls.

Does anyone know of any industrial/ag use/outdoor type fans in the box fan style?

thanks!

DiablosHalo
Apr. 22, 2011, 01:05 PM
I use the 20" high velocity fans (circular with feet to stand them on. Or- you can hang in front of or inside stall). You can get them at Walmart, lowes, any industrial website, etc. They run about $80 (I think walmart is $45ish but I haven't bought from there). The put out a lot more air and are safer.

Equibrit
Apr. 22, 2011, 01:11 PM
Lasko have "Weathershield" fans that are reasonably priced. http://www.laskoproducts.com/fans/model_3755.html
http://www.laskoproducts.com/fans/model_3720.html

3720 available at Wally World for $21.

KrazyTBMare
Apr. 22, 2011, 01:28 PM
My feed store carries some of those industrial like fans and sells them for like $50. A steal! If you dont like what Lowes or Home Depot has, you can go to farmtek.com and they have MANY fans, including smaller ones, and price breaks if you buy more than one.

blaster
Apr. 22, 2011, 03:39 PM
If you want to do it right, the requirement is a sealed motor. I would look at livestock fans. Will try to locate the manufacturer tonight.

blaster
Apr. 26, 2011, 07:28 AM
I've been happy with these:
https://www.sullivansupply.com/cart/ia/c-66-fans.aspx

This one is also sealed motor:
http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10052&storeId=10001&langId=-1&division=FarmTek&productId=267901

sar2008
Apr. 26, 2011, 10:01 AM
I buy the round, black metal ones at Tractor Supply with the enclosed
motors. They are easy to mount and last forever. They run about $80.

This one (http://www.tractorsupply.com/home-improvement/cooling/ceiling-wall-mount-fans/big-country-breeze-18-in-wall-mount-high-velocity-fan-5014046) isn't the same manufacturer I have, but it's the same style.

betsyk
Apr. 26, 2011, 11:18 AM
So, related subject, is there a certain type of motor or fan that's intended for continuous use? I assume the standard box fan, or even the ones described above, aren't really meant to run nonstop, 24/7, for months at a time. What kind of fan is meant for that (home or barn use)?

sar2008
Apr. 26, 2011, 11:27 AM
So, related subject, is there a certain type of motor or fan that's intended for continuous use? I assume the standard box fan, or even the ones described above, aren't really meant to run nonstop, 24/7, for months at a time. What kind of fan is meant for that (home or barn use)?

I would think any industrial strength, type of fan would be suitable.

Judy in Texas
Aug. 21, 2011, 03:05 PM
Last Friday I talked to a representative at Lasko. We have several of one of the models of fan recommended by a previous poster, and I had taken them all down after I heard about the barn fire in Magnolia. I knew Lasko had had a recall earlier this year and had sent out an additional safety device for owners of the recalled fans. I knew that my fans were not part of the recall; my idea was just to make them safer, and I thought maybe whatever thie safety device was, maybe I could get it for my fans.

The Lasko representative said in the strongest possible terms, several times duirng our conversation, that their box fans are not intended for use in barns, they are intended for use in homes, to cool people. I asked if there is a way to use a fuse or a GFI with these fans for added protection. The lady said the use of such additional devices is strongly discouraged. She did query me about the color of the plug on my fans (the plugs are blue) and I suspect that these plugs have a fuse in them. There is a label on the cord of my fans saying to not replace the plug. So, bottom line, I have been told very clearly by a reputable source to not use any Lasko fans in barns. They also make Galaxy, so those are out too, in case you were wondering.

So, I have ordered four of the model 106572 from FarmTek. These fans have a sealed motor. The lady who took my call owns a dairy and assured me that these fans are recommended for use in horse barns. I asked specifically if it is o.k. to hose off the fan (with it turned off), and she said yes.

The FarmTek fans weigh 28 pounds, and mounting them will be a bit more work than box fans, but at least they have a mounting frame, unlike the Showman fans.

I'd still like to find a safe fan that weighs a bit less for use at horse shows. If those of you who buy fans at feed stores and at WalMart know if these fans have sealed motors and are rated for continuous outdoor use, I'd sure like to know specifics about the models.

I had previously investigated mountable fans at Tractor Supply, and at the time none of their fans that I could see using to replace a box fan had sealed motors.

fivehorses
Aug. 21, 2011, 03:46 PM
I have the 18" air king that has an enclosed motor. Not sure I would hose it off, but I like the enclosed motor. The 18" cost me about $95.00.

It moves a lot of air, and one is hung from the ceiling rafter attached to a loop de loo and so it circulates/spins. Love them.

Not sure what it weighs, but the specs probably say.

tasia
Aug. 21, 2011, 04:37 PM
QC supply. I have the 18 inch indoor/outdoor, wall mount for about 95.00 plus shipping. These are ag use. We mounted them on the beam over the front of the stall, very simple. They move a lot of air :) Wall mount was included. They have an enclosed motor with thermal overload protector.

erroneous
Aug. 21, 2011, 05:07 PM
I second QC supply. I bought five of these for ~ $76.00 each to replace the fire-hazard box fans we had.

http://www.qcsupply.com/farm-livestock/fans-ventilation-controls/basket-fans/durafan-indoor-outdoor-high-velocity-wall-mount-fan-non-oscillating.html

The same fan at Farmtek was $149.00 each.

So far I like them. Plus they come in black so they won't show the dirt as much as white.

clanter
Aug. 21, 2011, 09:32 PM
I would think any industrial strength, type of fan would be suitable.

look on the label on the motor; the motor should have a UL rating of Continuous Duty...

KrazyTBMare
Aug. 22, 2011, 12:00 AM
I am looking at getting these (http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/prod1;ft1_cooling_exhaust_fans-ft1_circulation_fans;58fddfa3_103695.html) as they are 20" fans that are fully sealed and meant for outdoor use (barns, garages, greenhouses, etc). They are also only $80, weigh just over 18lbs, and the CFM ratings far exceed that of other fans in a similar price range (the highest cfm is over 5800 whereas ones like the above qc supply fan in the similar price range is only 14" and rated at not quite 2500 CFM).

Not only do they come with the chain for hanging but it also comes with feet which Im thinking I can use to attach it up high above the stalls.

However, I am also considering this one from Valley Vet (http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=431a0bc6-7b8f-4ee7-adf6-309425103dfd&gas=fans) which is $20 more (this is all without shipping) but the mounting bracket is ideal for placement above stalls, etc. The only thing is the CFMs on the 18" one is just over 3100. I need to go see what the CFM is on the 18" fan I have now as I think it blows a good amount, maybe could do a little more, but if it is only like 3000 CFM, I think the 5800 one will be TOO much.

So many choices!

Judy in Texas
Aug. 23, 2011, 01:53 PM
Note that the Valleyvet J&D fan says on the product info. page that it should be plugged in to a GFI circuit. There are GFI devices that can be plugged in to the wall, then the fan plugged in to the GFI.

Showman also has a new fan, the Tuff& Gusty. It weighs 24#, but is UL507.

Thank you to all who suggested the QC fan. That looks like a winner for me.

Judy in Texas
Aug. 24, 2011, 03:45 AM
I had a chat session with Ken at FarmTek today and he said the 103695 is not recommended for use in horse barns. The catalog description does not say these fans are UL507 rated, which is the standard for outdoor fans. I pointed out to Ken that the picture of the fan on the FarmTek web site shows the fan mounted with a main drip irrigation line running above it, with the 1/4" tubes coming off the main line in a way that would make it very likely that the fan would get water on it. He thanked me for pointing this out. Incidentally, I waited quite awhile for a chat representative to join me, and when Ken did, he said the building had been evacuated due to the Virginia earthquake!

I have ordered four of the QC Supply fans. KrazyTB mare, note that QC Supply has this Durafan fan in an 18" size that has more air flow than the smaller one. I was looking for approximately the air flow of a box fan (my now-retired Laskos on high were about 2000 CFM) so as to not blast the horse out of the stall.

tasia
Aug. 24, 2011, 08:45 AM
I really like the 18 inch Durafan :) They are much quieter than the homedepot commercial fans they replaced :) They do move a lot of air. I have mine on the medium setting.

KrazyTBMare
Aug. 24, 2011, 09:59 PM
I had a chat session with Ken at FarmTek today and he said the 103695 is not recommended for use in horse barns. The catalog description does not say these fans are UL507 rated, which is the standard for outdoor fans. I pointed out to Ken that the picture of the fan on the FarmTek web site shows the fan mounted with a main drip irrigation line running above it, with the 1/4" tubes coming off the main line in a way that would make it very likely that the fan would get water on it. He thanked me for pointing this out. Incidentally, I waited quite awhile for a chat representative to join me, and when Ken did, he said the building had been evacuated due to the Virginia earthquake!

I have ordered four of the QC Supply fans. KrazyTB mare, note that QC Supply has this Durafan fan in an 18" size that has more air flow than the smaller one. I was looking for approximately the air flow of a box fan (my now-retired Laskos on high were about 2000 CFM) so as to not blast the horse out of the stall.

Good to know. Pictures can be misleading. I have Galexy box fans and even on high they barely put out enough air to keep the horses cool. The only one who is cool is my gelding who has an 18" outdoor fan like the QC fans, etc. Im worried that 2000cfm isnt going to be enough. Mind you, my barn is like a shed row but with an aisle in the front that is under the roof and it faces north-south but during this time of year, when the sun starts setting, it comes straight in the front into the stalls and it gets HOT.

Id like to stay around $60-75 shipped and get the best fan for outside in a barn with enough cfm to fight the Florida heat and humidity.

yaya
Aug. 24, 2011, 11:06 PM
I have been using those Farmtek 103695 fans in my horse barn for years and have never had a problem. They are my favorite!

I use the chains and have them hung up high. I just brush the dust off of them each year, and they keep on going! I do turm them off at night when I go to bed.

Judy in Texas
Sep. 29, 2011, 02:28 PM
I have decided to start a company to sell horse barn fans. I know this is not the place to market, and I will not do so -- but you will see an ad on the CotH site when I am ready to go!

In my search for good products to market, I do have a question that I hope SAR 2008 or someone else can answer. If you have one of the old Tractor Supply fans that "runs forever" could you please look at the label on it and see if it gives information that might indicate the manufacturer? If Tractor Supply has changed suppliers, I would like to get in touch with the old suppilier and see they still make that long-lasting fan.

My plan, briefly, is to sell the fan together with a safe and secure mounting bracket, one that protects the cord.

Monette450
Apr. 10, 2012, 08:55 AM
QC supply. I have the 18 inch indoor/outdoor, wall mount for about 95.00 plus shipping. These are ag use. We mounted them on the beam over the front of the stall, very simple. They move a lot of air :) Wall mount was included. They have an enclosed motor with thermal overload protector.

Tasia -- Been researching and looking for weeks for our 6 stall in Magnolia TX and don't want to spend high dollar $240 or more. Someone in S Florida wrote "We are very happy with the fans overall but if you want a lot of air movement try and use a larger diameter fan. These do the job but just barely since they are mounted at about 6.5 ft high." How high are your fans mounted?
Thanks.

tasia
Apr. 10, 2012, 09:52 AM
I love my fans :) I have them mounted on the beam over the stall doors, pointed down at the horses. I have both the 14 and 18 inch size. The 14 inch work well, no one is sweating, but the 18 inch size moves alot more air. I would go with the 18 inch. These are alot quiter than my older fans too :)

I guess they are about 8 feet up.

tasia
Apr. 10, 2012, 09:53 AM
http://www.qcsupply.com/commercial-industrial/fans-ventilation-controls/basket-fans/durafan-indoor-outdoor-high-velocity-wall-mount-fan-non-oscillating.html

tasia
Apr. 10, 2012, 10:11 AM
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32115&d=1298675273

These are my old fans, we replaced with dura fans. the new fans are in the same location. The new ones just screw to beam through their frames, very easy :)

Mah Navu
Apr. 10, 2012, 02:01 PM
The property owners where we keep our horses (private residence farm) bought this huge industrial fan for the horses last summer.....at a cost of $300.....

http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/mazinn/?action=view&current=030-1.jpg

Not sure if an idustrial fan differs from a "barn fan" and if so, how....but this thing really really moves air. :lol: It IS noisy though....but they have gotten used to it.

We put it in the aisle in front of their stalls in the summer and with two dutch windows to stick their heads out of, it keeps them very cool..... Plus, we open both ends of the stable and there is a fantastic cross breeze most days. The silver door on the end opens completely, like a garage door, as does the one i am standing in front of to take the photo....

http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/mazinn/?action=view&current=026-1.jpg

Dunno if it has an enclosed motor...i'll have to check that.

Cluck
Apr. 10, 2012, 02:23 PM
http://www.qcsupply.com/commercial-industrial/fans-ventilation-controls/basket-fans/durafan-indoor-outdoor-high-velocity-wall-mount-fan-non-oscillating.html

I have this type of fan although I purchased mine from Farmtek. They are mounted in the top corners of my stalls, about 8' high and blow down and across the stalls.

They put out ALOT of air and I am still tweaking the angle on mine because on high they will blow the bedding around.

I am pretty happy with these but also like to use a couple of fans lower down as they blow cooler air.

Equibrit
Apr. 10, 2012, 10:11 PM
http://www.doublel.com/poultrydivision/poultryinlets/stirfan.html
http://www.chickentrain.com/item/list/29/off/20

Used in poultry houses.

1hrsjmpr2day
Apr. 19, 2012, 09:57 AM
We bought fans by CoolBarns - www.coolbarns.com (http://www.coolbarns.com) - and LOVE them! Very durable and many options! They are built for horse barns, so have the added safe factor. Horses seem to love them as well. Great prices and customer service. PM for a picture in our barn.