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Briggsie
Apr. 9, 2011, 12:15 PM
I have a huge pole barn/metal warehouse that I am going to put stalls in. There is plenty of open land next to it, that I am putting up fencing. I have a concrete floor in the building, and will install stall skins over. Please show me your home made stalls, or installed or modified stall fronts that you installed in a pre existing building or whatever. We need ideas!

show me your fencing too! We are doing the electro tape fencing.

We have an 18.1 h sweedish warmblood that we are going to bring home ONE DAY (but not any time soon)

horsetales
Apr. 9, 2011, 12:41 PM
This is what we did with our pole barn. we have different sized stalls - 12 x 16, 12 x 14 and 12 x 12

Before
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/?action=view&current=P9030200.jpg
wide shot
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4159.jpg
close up
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4157.jpg

Our fencing is a combination of coated wire and flexi vinyl

Briggsie
Apr. 9, 2011, 01:02 PM
This is what we did with our pole barn. we have different sized stalls - 12 x 16, 12 x 14 and 12 x 12

Before
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/?action=view&current=P9030200.jpg
wide shot
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4159.jpg
close up
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4157.jpg

Our fencing is a combination of coated wire and flexi vinyl


Awesome! This is what I was thinking...to have a few dif. sized stalls. Considering the big horse, and may want a few little guys too!
Thanks, keep them coming!

mpsbarnmanager
Apr. 10, 2011, 05:00 PM
This is what we did with our pole barn. we have different sized stalls - 12 x 16, 12 x 14 and 12 x 12

Before
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/?action=view&current=P9030200.jpg
wide shot
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4159.jpg
close up
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4157.jpg

Our fencing is a combination of coated wire and flexi vinyl

Hahaha I just had to laugh at myself. Dana, I looked at the wide after shot and thought, gee, that looks like Bonnie's farm! This is Holly, Michele's barn owner, we met when we all came out to see Bonnie that freezing night!

OP, I would love to show you the stall fronts we are putting in our new barn, but my internets down and I don't know how to do it from my blackberry. We are making the totally from scratch, from iron bars and tubing. They look amazing and they are super sturdy! Pics to come!

Bluey
Apr. 10, 2011, 05:53 PM
We made our own 14'x14' stalls, portable, so we can move them around as our needs change.
We have already moved them twice as we expanded.;)
If you already have a barn, you may consider that, better than framing something solid in there.

As you can see, we made our stalls with horizontal bars, not the traditional vertical ones.
Those are called by some "fair ground" stall fronts.
We initially only put three bars, but it looked like the smaller horses could stick their heads thru those, so we added a fourth bar:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Robintoo/MoonandIzzy-1.jpg?t=1302471839

Many manufacturers are going to those and to mesh type fronts today, considered safer, but not enough to go to those if you just like the look of grill fronts better.

Some barns have the whole front one gate, no walls and doors and love them.
One local vet hospital has a whole barn with the 12x12 stalls with whole front one mesh gate, so he can take a horse out that can't walk good out without needing to make him fit thru a 4' door (or drag a dead horse out).
We may consider that next time we have to make more.

Briggsie
Apr. 10, 2011, 08:01 PM
Hahaha I just had to laugh at myself. Dana, I looked at the wide after shot and thought, gee, that looks like Bonnie's farm! This is Holly, Michele's barn owner, we met when we all came out to see Bonnie that freezing night!

OP, I would love to show you the stall fronts we are putting in our new barn, but my internets down and I don't know how to do it from my blackberry. We are making the totally from scratch, from iron bars and tubing. They look amazing and they are super sturdy! Pics to come!

Oh Pretty please? don't forget!

horsetales
Apr. 10, 2011, 09:31 PM
Hahaha I just had to laugh at myself. Dana, I looked at the wide after shot and thought, gee, that looks like Bonnie's farm! This is Holly, Michele's barn owner, we met when we all came out to see Bonnie that freezing night!

OP, I would love to show you the stall fronts we are putting in our new barn, but my internets down and I don't know how to do it from my blackberry. We are making the totally from scratch, from iron bars and tubing. They look amazing and they are super sturdy! Pics to come!

Hi Holly, I'ld love to see the pics as well. Now if I could just see those stalls with a foal peeking out, but Bonnie seems intent on crossing her legs :no:

Fancy That
Apr. 11, 2011, 04:58 PM
We did everything DIY. Our 4-stall shelters are opened to the sacrifice paddock, which has large gates leading to either rear pasture or front pasture.

It's the ideal set up for our herd. I usually have both gates open so the horses wander from front pasture, through sacrifice paddock/stall area , down to rear pasture as they please.

Each stall is 13 x 13 and we feed hay in there and grain them, and they do great with just that wall of seperation :) They do play musical-stalls after awhile with the hay....but they all stay put for eating their "buckets"

Super low maintainance (we don't have to grab horses, etc)!! Super easy. Just throw hay in, and dump grain in the buckets :)

Pics:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/IMG00048-20091222-0912.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/IMG00049-20091222-0913.jpg

Lastly, here's our hillbilly arena. It's about 220 x 110 and my hubby simply graded a naturally flat spot at the very top of our rear pasture. We just disc & drag it w/ our garden tractor and it works for us!
Pics:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Horses%20June%202009/DSC01782.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Horses%20June%202009/DSC01767.jpg

AliCat518
Apr. 11, 2011, 05:04 PM
Fancy That, you dont have any footing in your "hillbilly arena?!" That looks amazing. How do you keep all the rocks out?

VCT
Apr. 11, 2011, 05:15 PM
http://www.hogbackhillfarm.com/facilities.html

I built the stalls. Hubby did the fencing. We did the arena fencing together and put up the plywood walls around the inside of the indoor. We did hire someone to do the arenas footing, but they followed my instructions which I got from the USDF booklet on footing.

mpsbarnmanager
Apr. 11, 2011, 06:07 PM
Oh Pretty please? don't forget!

Haha, I won't! Ill try to use DH's computer to do it tonight. I love our stall fronts! We have arched windows so the feed openings we made arched, too. Excited to share them with everyone!

mpsbarnmanager
Apr. 11, 2011, 06:15 PM
Hi Holly, I'ld love to see the pics as well. Now if I could just see those stalls with a foal peeking out, but Bonnie seems intent on crossing her legs :no:


:lol::lol:

benni
Apr. 11, 2011, 06:22 PM
good work!

Fancy That
Apr. 11, 2011, 06:55 PM
Fancy That, you dont have any footing in your "hillbilly arena?!" That looks amazing. How do you keep all the rocks out?

No, it's just a big, wide, open space that got graded, and we just disc/drag it regularly.

We have clay soil, so it's useless when we have big rainstorms, but in CA, we are pretty dry most of the year.

I am lucky in that we don't have much in the way of rocks. We just pick up rocks when we see them.

It works perfect for us. We do all of our schooling in there (3 horses)

Simply couldn't afford a real arena, plus it's open on 2 sides, as it's part of the pasture. It's situated in the upper-west corner of the pasture, so I have one long fence, and one short fence.

The horses like to snooze/roll in it, too.

More pics of it:
(We had disced it here, but didn't rake/groom it yet)
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/May%202010%20Horses/FancyArena.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/May%202010%20Horses/NikkiOak.jpg

(It looks like this when we don't disc/drag/rake it)
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Tinkerbelle%20June%202010/Tinky8.jpg

rosijet
Apr. 12, 2011, 04:21 PM
We had our 36'x36' pole barn built and then finished the inside ourselves.

We bought the stall fronts and sides and inserted the wood. They were reasonably priced and have held up well over the last 5 years.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c335/kelwalters/StallsWestSide.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c335/kelwalters/Stall.jpg

JCS
Apr. 12, 2011, 11:01 PM
Our barn was formerly a 2-car garage. We removed one of the garage doors and made it into a wall. There are two 12 x 12 stalls in the one garage bay, and an aisle in the other garage bay, the one with the door obviously. We made our own stalls out of 2x10s stacked vertically, and homemade doors. The bars came out of another old homemade barn. They were welded by hand. We sanded them down, painted them black, and they look good as new (I think).

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/164595_10150142817074073_692569072_7935780_1658638 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/164334_10150142817009073_692569072_7935779_3161531 _n.jpg

ETA: Just found an old Webshots album I'd made when we were constructing the stalls:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2955043990094337499FrVBdW

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2121011890094337499tQMhSz

mpsbarnmanager
Apr. 13, 2011, 09:16 PM
OK, here they are. Certainly not portable in this case but...

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=1CbN2bZs5ZuLA

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=1CbN2bZs5ZuSg

and here is the barn they are inside of:

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=1CbN2bZs5Zuhg

The bottoms will be filled in with stained oak boards.

fivehorses
Apr. 13, 2011, 09:28 PM
This is what we did with our pole barn. we have different sized stalls - 12 x 16, 12 x 14 and 12 x 12

Before
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/?action=view&current=P9030200.jpg
wide shot
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4159.jpg
close up
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/horsetales/PIC_4157.jpg

Our fencing is a combination of coated wire and flexi vinyl

I am trying to figure out how you were able to put in the various size stalls.
Are your posts set at odd distances to enable you to make the different sizes?
Also, what is the span in front of the stalls, I am referring to the aisle..which looks huge.
I know its hard to explain, but I am trying to design a barn, and putting all my posts at 12' intervals per the builder. I was told, the pole on one side of the aisle has to match the pole on the opposite side.

I suppose if you had rafters, than the floor is free standing and posts to build stalls can go anywhere without needing to be support posts.
I hope my questions are clear.

Briggsie
Apr. 13, 2011, 10:14 PM
We had our 36'x36' pole barn built and then finished the inside ourselves.

We bought the stall fronts and sides and inserted the wood. They were reasonably priced and have held up well over the last 5 years.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c335/kelwalters/StallsWestSide.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c335/kelwalters/Stall.jpg

This is exactly what I want to do! right down to every detail. looks like my door might be in a diff. spot.....can you tell me where you bought the stall fronts??

Briggsie
Apr. 13, 2011, 10:28 PM
Our barn was formerly a 2-car garage. We removed one of the garage doors and made it into a wall. There are two 12 x 12 stalls in the one garage bay, and an aisle in the other garage bay, the one with the door obviously. We made our own stalls out of 2x10s stacked vertically, and homemade doors. The bars came out of another old homemade barn. They were welded by hand. We sanded them down, painted them black, and they look good as new (I think).

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/164595_10150142817074073_692569072_7935780_1658638 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/164334_10150142817009073_692569072_7935779_3161531 _n.jpg

ETA: Just found an old Webshots album I'd made when we were constructing the stalls:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2955043990094337499FrVBdW

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2121011890094337499tQMhSz

You guys are awesome! please keep posting! I am really getting inspired! So,

JCS...you built yours on top of concrete. I was hoping someone would eventually show me a barn like this. My entire pole barn, completely empty, but then there is the concrete floor slab. About 3 ft thick. This dude that built my house and the pole barn did not skimp on anything...but for horses, a concrete floor is not ideal...but I am telling you what...I am not going to even consider trying to get that out of there. So, how did you build on top of the concrete? Can you husband call my husband? Odd request, I know. but we have ideas, just want to bounce this off of someone who has done it. I am thinking we have to get a mason gun and put wood down as the base for the "frame", then the question is how do we want to get up the 4x4 beams to build the frames to screw the stall boards/walls to??? that is where I am stumped. I don't think just using concrete anchors, like the ones you use for decks, will do the trick. I looked at your pics and I cannot tell how you put up the mains posts (like the ones that frame the entry to the stalls)

Briggsie
Apr. 13, 2011, 10:36 PM
OK, here they are. Certainly not portable in this case but...

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=1CbN2bZs5ZuLA

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=1CbN2bZs5ZuSg

and here is the barn they are inside of:

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=1CbN2bZs5Zuhg

The bottoms will be filled in with stained oak boards.

HOLY SH@*&# :eek: You guys made those???!!!!! wow. Either you have a super talented husband who is the jack of all trades, master or none, or he is a professional welder! What a barn!!!!!:D lucky girl

JCS
Apr. 14, 2011, 08:18 AM
You guys are awesome! please keep posting! I am really getting inspired! So,

JCS...you built yours on top of concrete. I was hoping someone would eventually show me a barn like this. My entire pole barn, completely empty, but then there is the concrete floor slab. About 3 ft thick. This dude that built my house and the pole barn did not skimp on anything...but for horses, a concrete floor is not ideal...but I am telling you what...I am not going to even consider trying to get that out of there. So, how did you build on top of the concrete? Can you husband call my husband? Odd request, I know. but we have ideas, just want to bounce this off of someone who has done it. I am thinking we have to get a mason gun and put wood down as the base for the "frame", then the question is how do we want to get up the 4x4 beams to build the frames to screw the stall boards/walls to??? that is where I am stumped. I don't think just using concrete anchors, like the ones you use for decks, will do the trick. I looked at your pics and I cannot tell how you put up the mains posts (like the ones that frame the entry to the stalls)

I know they used a mason gun and some sort of masonry screws to anchor the frame and posts to the concrete. I'm not 100% sure how they secured the 4x4s. I'll have to ask my husband and go look at it later today. I suppose I could have him call, LOL. PM me your phone # if you're serious. I'm sure he wouldn't mind talking about it.

While concrete is not ideal for horses, sometimes you gotta work with what you have. Our base is 3 feet thick as well. We put mats in the stalls and aisle, and bed deeply, and it's fine. Our horses are never in for more than a night or so here and there, just when the weather's really bad.

Bluey
Apr. 14, 2011, 08:48 AM
When building top of stalls and doors with grills, be sure the bars are very close together, so if a horse happens to be playing around and paws or kicks them, their hoof won't go thru easily.
If you have larger spaces, at least be sure the bars are light, so they will bend when the foot tries to come back thru and so won't be apt to get hung.

Also, some horses like to run their teeth up and down the bars and/or try to grab with their teeth and can get their upper jaw hung between bars, if the space is large.

With race horses, when you go from track to track, you have to keep them in all kinds of stalls and you get to see all kinds of injuries from it too.
I think some of the worst were the old stables in Luisiana Downs, that tended to also flood. It was scary to go in flooded stalls to get horses out with all kinds of snakes swimming around.

Too bad horses don't seem to have much of a self preservation sense, when it comes to getting themselves in trouble.
Short of bubble wrapping, we just have to do the best we can to keep them protected.
What seems ok to one barn manager may not to another, according to their experiences.

rosijet
Apr. 14, 2011, 09:07 AM
This is exactly what I want to do! right down to every detail. looks like my door might be in a diff. spot.....can you tell me where you bought the stall fronts??

Those are the Farmaster Stall Systems. Our builder was supposed to have our barn done by September but didn't finish until November. :no: We had torn down our horses' loafing sheds in order to put the barn in that spot so needed to really hurry and finish those stalls. They went up pretty quickly.

I bought them at Stockyards Ranch Supply in Colorado but imagine you can google the company to find them in your location.

Takelababy
Apr. 14, 2011, 09:33 AM
I don't care for how most stalls are built when using the metal bars on top of planking. Horses are very social creatures. They like to see their neighbors. This stall setup forces most horses to keep their head abnormally high instead of in the lowered relaxed position. Steel corral panels permit this, or even if one panel was steel mesh, like rock guard. Just something you might want to consider before you build.

TrotTrotPumpkn
Apr. 14, 2011, 01:05 PM
I boarded at a barn that had solid (bought from TSC) stall fronts and then the two sides were pipe corrals. I was always worried about the horses getting cast or putting a leg through to kick their neighbor (and when one horse gets aflafla and the chubby neighbor doesn't, this is a real issue). Any thoughts?

Also, since we each supplied our own bedding, it seemed like all my bedding ended up in my neighbor's stall or in the isle, etc.

TrotTrotPumpkn
Apr. 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
We did everything DIY. Our 4-stall shelters are opened to the sacrifice paddock, which has large gates leading to either rear pasture or front pasture.

It's the ideal set up for our herd. I usually have both gates open so the horses wander from front pasture, through sacrifice paddock/stall area , down to rear pasture as they please.

Each stall is 13 x 13 and we feed hay in there and grain them, and they do great with just that wall of seperation :) They do play musical-stalls after awhile with the hay....but they all stay put for eating their "buckets"

Super low maintainance (we don't have to grab horses, etc)!! Super easy. Just throw hay in, and dump grain in the buckets :)

Pics:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/IMG00048-20091222-0912.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/IMG00049-20091222-0913.jpg

Lastly, here's our hillbilly arena. It's about 220 x 110 and my hubby simply graded a naturally flat spot at the very top of our rear pasture. We just disc & drag it w/ our garden tractor and it works for us!
Pics:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Horses%20June%202009/DSC01782.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Horses%20June%202009/DSC01767.jpg

You are in inspiration! I too am in clay country and an arena is just NOT going to happen unless I hit the jackpot. So break it down for me, because I'm dense. You disc it--I'm picturing a tractor disc attachment here?? How deep? Then what do you rake the chunks with? How often do you need to do this? I've been at places where they tried this, but the had horrible furrows develop along the rail...

mkevent
Apr. 14, 2011, 08:00 PM
We had a contractor put up the shell, and we finished the stalls ourselves. The grills came from Woodstar Stalls. This was 16 years ago.

We did the fencing ourselves. We have sandy soil, so it wasn't impossible.

Our ring I had graded and let it set up for a year, making sure to drag it regularly. I later added Permaflex footing and I've been really happy with it.

Pictures are on my website

http://farsidefarm.webs.com

ETA: The arena with the Permaflex isn't on the website-forgot to include that in the pictures, I guess. Anyway, it's a full sized dressage arena directly behind the barn.

ironbessflint
Apr. 21, 2011, 10:10 AM
We did everything ourselves!

There was a 24'x32' pole barn existing with dirt floors.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/14993_801400175678_21700103_44352706_4697478_n.jpg

We lined with walls with sheets of OSB, and then built frames for stall fronts.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47715_855206227918_21700103_46255031_3794791_n.jpg

For support posts we sunk 4x4s into a decking spike. It's basically a metal stake with a sqaure on top that a 4x4 sits in. About $14 at any building supply place. Stalls fronts have plywood instead of OSB. We had about 100 decking spindles left over from an old Lowes mistake, so we used those on top. Stall dividers are solid. And then we just used 4' no climb gates for stall doors.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47911_855206422528_21700103_46255040_7513576_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47911_855206427518_21700103_46255041_4136577_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/58552_855206816738_21700103_46255060_2883950_n.jpg

We put down stall mats so they can't dig up the dirt. Hung buckets and corner feeders and they were good to go! That was literally a one weekend project.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207205958_21700103_46255076_1868042_n.jpg


For fencing we used landscape timbers for posts, and hot tape. The posts will need to be replaced in time, but they're treated and CHEAP. Do yourself a favor and rent a bobcat or something with an auger on it. We live on clay....ick ick ick. The arena is also landscape timbers for posts, and 2x6 rails.

For fencing we spent a long time making sure things were square and we staked corners and ran string the lengths of the sides. Then we measured out our spacing (8' arena and 15' pasture) and spray painted where we should dig the holes

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/57937_855207215938_21700103_46255077_2275860_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207240888_21700103_46255080_5121901_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207250868_21700103_46255081_229331_n.jpg

Tip...get the dirt BEFORE you put up fencing ;)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207260848_21700103_46255083_6706337_n.jpg

We went around with the bobcat, drilled hole, dropped in a post
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207834698_21700103_46255103_7098540_n.jpg

We filled the holes in around the post as we attached the rails and made sure all was plumb and level
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207839688_21700103_46255104_6382336_n.jpg

They we used the same rented bobcat to spread things out

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207859648_21700103_46255107_5809507_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207869628_21700103_46255109_2027105_n.jpg

Then drag (we just used chain link with some weight on top)
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207879608_21700103_46255111_95701_n.jpg


As you can see, all we did for the arena was pick a level spot, put some weed killer on the grass, and cover it with dirt. It's been great. A year later we have some foot depth consistency to work out, but not bad!

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207884598_21700103_46255112_639988_n.jpg

Pasture was basically the same, with corner posts and gate posts bigger and sunk in concrete

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/41089_855208248868_21700103_46255130_8192436_n.jpg


Front pasture before:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/14993_801400070888_21700103_44352690_280709_n.jpg

Back yard before:
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/57937_855207235898_21700103_46255079_2162103_n.jpg


:D

Bluey
Apr. 21, 2011, 11:15 AM
Wow, you did do a lot of work, looks neat.:)

Those Bobcats are fun to run, are they, like a big toy.;)

pds
Apr. 21, 2011, 03:30 PM
Here are pictures of the stalls I put in our barn in WI before we moved to Aiken. I plan to use them again when we build down here.

The stall frames were made by Priefert and I added 2" x 6" TG pine.

http://www.clipshack.com/Clip.aspx?key=F81554A1E66A1198

http://www.clipshack.com/Clip.aspx?key=F2A21D8CB541FDC7

http://www.clipshack.com/Clip.aspx?key=0E2EBB569736AB99

Fancy That
Apr. 22, 2011, 08:23 PM
Oops, I didn't check this thread, sorry for the late response TTP!

First of all - here are new photos (better ones) of the arena:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/DSC01353.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/DSC01355.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/Arena.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk150/elaineshickman/Twin%20Oaks%20Ranch/DSC01357.jpg

Now for the details:

1. We naturally had a big open flat spot at the top corner of our rear pasture, so hubby graded it when we first moved in...to make it smooth/flat
2. We just use our heavy-duty garden tractor to pull a disc and then rake (we can disc first, then come in and rake....or I'm lazy and we just attach the rake behind the disc)
3. We do have some rocks, but pretty minimal, so we just collect the rocks as we find them
4. This makes for a dusty arena in the summer, and it's muddy when we are in the full throws of winter rain/storm. But where I live, we don't really get too much "weather", so it's fine
5. Our "rake" looks like this:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07124537000P?prdNo=4&blockNo=4&blockType=G4
6. Our "disc thing" looks like this, but the discs aren't notched:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07124206000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

We only have 4 acres total, so we don't even have a "real tractor"....our heavy duty garden tractor is fine....it mows our lawns, the pasture, and can drag our arena and gravel driveway :)


Think of it how you'd think of a big natural grass outdoor arena or XC course....it's not PERFECT like a "real arena", but it works for us!


You are in inspiration! I too am in clay country and an arena is just NOT going to happen unless I hit the jackpot. So break it down for me, because I'm dense. You disc it--I'm picturing a tractor disc attachment here?? How deep? Then what do you rake the chunks with? How often do you need to do this? I've been at places where they tried this, but the had horrible furrows develop along the rail...

Briggsie
Apr. 23, 2011, 08:16 AM
We did everything ourselves!

There was a 24'x32' pole barn existing with dirt floors.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/14993_801400175678_21700103_44352706_4697478_n.jpg

We lined with walls with sheets of OSB, and then built frames for stall fronts.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47715_855206227918_21700103_46255031_3794791_n.jpg

For support posts we sunk 4x4s into a decking spike. It's basically a metal stake with a sqaure on top that a 4x4 sits in. About $14 at any building supply place. Stalls fronts have plywood instead of OSB. We had about 100 decking spindles left over from an old Lowes mistake, so we used those on top. Stall dividers are solid. And then we just used 4' no climb gates for stall doors.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47911_855206422528_21700103_46255040_7513576_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47911_855206427518_21700103_46255041_4136577_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/58552_855206816738_21700103_46255060_2883950_n.jpg

We put down stall mats so they can't dig up the dirt. Hung buckets and corner feeders and they were good to go! That was literally a one weekend project.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207205958_21700103_46255076_1868042_n.jpg


For fencing we used landscape timbers for posts, and hot tape. The posts will need to be replaced in time, but they're treated and CHEAP. Do yourself a favor and rent a bobcat or something with an auger on it. We live on clay....ick ick ick. The arena is also landscape timbers for posts, and 2x6 rails.

For fencing we spent a long time making sure things were square and we staked corners and ran string the lengths of the sides. Then we measured out our spacing (8' arena and 15' pasture) and spray painted where we should dig the holes

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/57937_855207215938_21700103_46255077_2275860_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207240888_21700103_46255080_5121901_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207250868_21700103_46255081_229331_n.jpg

Tip...get the dirt BEFORE you put up fencing ;)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/57937_855207260848_21700103_46255083_6706337_n.jpg

We went around with the bobcat, drilled hole, dropped in a post
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207834698_21700103_46255103_7098540_n.jpg

We filled the holes in around the post as we attached the rails and made sure all was plumb and level
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207839688_21700103_46255104_6382336_n.jpg

They we used the same rented bobcat to spread things out

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207859648_21700103_46255107_5809507_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207869628_21700103_46255109_2027105_n.jpg

Then drag (we just used chain link with some weight on top)
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207879608_21700103_46255111_95701_n.jpg


As you can see, all we did for the arena was pick a level spot, put some weed killer on the grass, and cover it with dirt. It's been great. A year later we have some foot depth consistency to work out, but not bad!

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58944_855207884598_21700103_46255112_639988_n.jpg

Pasture was basically the same, with corner posts and gate posts bigger and sunk in concrete

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/41089_855208248868_21700103_46255130_8192436_n.jpg


Front pasture before:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/14993_801400070888_21700103_44352690_280709_n.jpg

Back yard before:
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/57937_855207235898_21700103_46255079_2162103_n.jpg


:D

Thank you for taking the time to post all of these links and ideas! Looks like you guys made it all work!

Briggsie
Apr. 23, 2011, 08:21 AM
Here are pictures of the stalls I put in our barn in WI before we moved to Aiken. I plan to use them again when we build down here.

The stall frames were made by Priefert and I added 2" x 6" TG pine.

http://www.clipshack.com/Clip.aspx?key=F81554A1E66A1198

http://www.clipshack.com/Clip.aspx?key=F2A21D8CB541FDC7

http://www.clipshack.com/Clip.aspx?key=0E2EBB569736AB99


Very beautiful! Is concrete underneath the stall mats? I love your stalls. I think I may just order those. they look fantastic

Briggsie
Apr. 23, 2011, 08:24 AM
Here is a little slide show of our bank barn, from how we found it to what it looks like now.

http://community.webshots.com/slideshow/568924376QhwtRN?mediaPosition=1

And this is our arena, from start to finish, also in a slide show format.

http://pets.webshots.com/slideshow/560741878sksMOp

We have a new barn that is a work in progress. Maybe one day I'll be able to show pictures of it completed. Wouldn't that be nice....


WOw! Can I just say you are so lucky and did such a great job! I love your barn! If I could only have something so solid and with so much history! I bet the horses stay cool in the summer! You guys really did a great job!

shawneeAcres
Apr. 23, 2011, 11:22 AM
Have posted pics etc before, but we had the shell ereceted by Carolina carports and did the stalls ourselves:

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/569459911nWMeoO

some of our tape fencing we self installed

http://pets.webshots.com/album/579332304egBCFf

Lori T
Apr. 23, 2011, 01:39 PM
http://www.hogbackhillfarm.com/facilities.html

I built the stalls. Hubby did the fencing. We did the arena fencing together and put up the plywood walls around the inside of the indoor. We did hire someone to do the arenas footing, but they followed my instructions which I got from the USDF booklet on footing.

I LOVE your barn!!

pds
Apr. 23, 2011, 10:03 PM
Very beautiful! Is concrete underneath the stall mats? I love your stalls. I think I may just order those. they look fantastic

No concrete under the mats. We used crushed lime stone, leveled, wet and packed hard. Stayed perfectly level and we never had to move the mats after we put them down.

The stalls were vey easy to put up and the price was very reasonable. I also had window grills from Priefert but didn't have them up when I took the pics.

pds
Apr. 23, 2011, 10:10 PM
Very beautiful! Is concrete underneath the stall mats? I love your stalls. I think I may just order those. they look fantastic

No concrete under the mats. We used crushed lime stone, leveled, wet and packed hard. Stayed perfectly level and we never had to move the mats after we put them down.

The stalls were vey easy to put up and the price was very reasonable. I also had window grills from Priefert but didn't have them up when I took the pics.

Badger
Apr. 24, 2011, 06:41 AM
I have a huge pole barn/metal warehouse that I am going to put stalls in. There is plenty of open land next to it, that I am putting up fencing. I have a concrete floor in the building, and will install stall skins over.

I think stall skins are intended to go over a well draining subbase and NOT concrete. It is basically a filter fabric that let's solids stay above it and lets liquid drain through and perk down through the soil. Over concrete the urine will drain through and pool. Plus you need to add cushion over concrete and stall skins doesn't do that. You might want to consider rubber mats instead. They will provide cushion over concrete and an easily cleaned base for shavings to soak up the urine and be removed.

Briggsie
Apr. 25, 2011, 09:02 PM
I think stall skins are intended to go over a well draining subbase and NOT concrete. It is basically a filter fabric that let's solids stay above it and lets liquid drain through and perk down through the soil. Over concrete the urine will drain through and pool. Plus you need to add cushion over concrete and stall skins doesn't do that. You might want to consider rubber mats instead. They will provide cushion over concrete and an easily cleaned base for shavings to soak up the urine and be removed.

OH! dang, I was completely wrong then. Are there products on the market that make a matress over an area like concrete? hiring someone to take the slab out is going to put me over budget:( considering the horse will only be in their stalls overnight...maybe rubber mats will work just fine?

Bluey
Apr. 25, 2011, 09:27 PM
OH! dang, I was completely wrong then. Are there products on the market that make a matress over an area like concrete? hiring someone to take the slab out is going to put me over budget:( considering the horse will only be in their stalls overnight...maybe rubber mats will work just fine?

Practically every horse in Europe is stabled on concrete with good, appropiate bedding, 24/7 and do fine.
Putting the 3/4" rubber mats will make it even a bit better.
I would not take the concrete out, for many that is an asset.;)
Horses don't lay down that much and bedding is what will make the stalls soft for that.
Standing up, concrete to a horse is not hardly any different than most other ground out there and the mats and bedding will make all the difference.

If someone doesn't already has concrete, it is a choice if to add it.
Since you already have it, why not take advantage of what is good about it, like it won't develop unevenness and will be easy to disinfect.

Badger
Apr. 25, 2011, 09:40 PM
Yes, just add the rubber mats over the concrete and it will work fine! There are rubber mattresses filled with rubber crumbs, but they are more expensive. Rubber mats over the existing concrete is a pretty common way to go.

TrotTrotPumpkn
Apr. 26, 2011, 11:11 AM
Agree, just put rubber mats over the concrete and bed on that. I like to buy as big of a mat as possible so I don't have to deal with seams (the downside is they are a bear to move, but really, how often do you move them whereas seams annoy you every single time you clean the stall).

tasia
Apr. 27, 2011, 04:56 PM
I don't care for how most stalls are built when using the metal bars on top of planking. Horses are very social creatures. They like to see their neighbors. This stall setup forces most horses to keep their head abnormally high instead of in the lowered relaxed position. Steel corral panels permit this, or even if one panel was steel mesh, like rock guard. Just something you might want to consider before you build.

My stalls have spaces between the upper boards so horses can see each other and for airflow:cool:

drewsbadboy
Apr. 27, 2011, 05:06 PM
I love, love, love your stalls tasia! Where did you find the mounting brackets for the stall fans? I've been looking for some for my barns and haven't had much luck. :)

tasia
Apr. 27, 2011, 05:12 PM
I love, love, love your stalls tasia! Where did you find the mounting brackets for the stall fans? I've been looking for some for my barns and haven't had much luck. :)

Dover:cool: I think smartpak has them also. I have commercial fans in my other stalls. I found a local man who makes holders for the round commercial fans, just haven't switched that one over yet. I'll try to post pictures of those also. Thank you :)

LovelyBay
Apr. 28, 2011, 09:39 PM
Thanks everyone for sharing your pictures! They are making me drool! I can't wait until I get to build my own barn and I can ask for your help!