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Glimmerglass
Apr. 8, 2011, 06:57 PM
While all the salivating over Zenyatta has faded during these winter months it may be overlooked by some that the world rankings have continued. Who is at the top? Blame? Zenyatta? Nope, but it is a filly.

Image - Black Caviar (f) (http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/04/07/1226035/576483-black-caviar.jpg)

4-year old Australian-based Black Caviar nosed out U.S. champion Blame as the top-rated horse in the world, based on World Thoroughbred Rankings from Oct. 1, 2010 through March 27, 2011. The Breeders’ Cup Championships and the Dubai World Cup (UAE-I) were run during the period covered by the latest rankings.

According to the panel of international handicappers, the Australian filly who defeated males in her three group I wins over the winter was weighted at 130 pounds, one more than Breeders’ Cup Classic (gr. I) winner Blame, the champion older male in the U.S. who has since been retired.

Late tonight (FRI 4-8-11) American viewers can on TVG watch her go for yet another victory from Oz: Group 1 $1 million Darley T.J. Smith Stakes (1200m) at Royal Randwick (Sydney). The race will be aired live at 1:20 am EST

One of these headlines that temps fate: Daily Telegraph (Australia) Trainer Peter Moody says only disaster can beat Black Caviar in T. J. Smith (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/only-disaster-can-beat-black-caviar/story-fn67rceu-1226036244086)

video - prior effort Flemington - Lexus Newmarket Handicap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_Qurl05YM)

She carries gobs of weight without issue and is scared of none. Impressive gal!

Interesting if she does win she'll break (http://www.release-news.com/index.php/sport/85024-black-caviar-eyes-nijinsky-horse-racing-record-in-next-race-tj-smith-stakes-form.html) a record held by Nijinsky.


The legendary Nijinsky was the only horse in modern history to have won its first eleven career starts in metro races, until Black Caviar tied this mark with her convincing victory in the $500,000 William Reid Stakes. Thus placing Black Caviar in very elite company as Nijinsky holds numerous horse racing distinctions including the English Triple Crown, European Horse of the Year, a new European earnings record (1970), voted UK Horse of The Millennium in 2000 and even a film narrated by Orson Welles titled "A Horse Called Nijinsky". While Black Caviar doesn't yet have a film to her credit she does have a popular Face Book Fan page.

Black Caviar still has a long way to go to match the above successes but this Saturday she's favored to break her tie with Nijinsky and set a new world record of twelve straight victories in metro races to start a career.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 8, 2011, 09:29 PM
Video: TVG's promo for Black Caviar in advance of her 12th career start (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV9nWpdBFDQ)

Polydor
Apr. 9, 2011, 08:33 AM
Aww you beat me to it Glimmer!

Amazing filly to watch run. She really needs some competition since she looks like she is just out for a gallop most of the time. Love how calm she is in the paddock , half asleep most of the time.

We all thought she should have gone to Dubai for the races last month.

Also her half brother sold this week at Sydney Yearling Sale for just over 1 mill.

http://www.inglis.com.au/news/item/million-dollar-man--black-caviars-half-brother-sells

P.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 9, 2011, 08:45 AM
Polydor there were a few tense moments when it looked like she was lingering behind the front runner .. before she pounced and pulled away :) Going now a perfect 12-0

Racing Post (UK): Mighty Black Caviar posts win number 12 (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/australia-mighty-black-caviar-wins-again-in-tj-smith/839204/top/")


[2nd place finisher] Hay List's trainer John McNair was proud of his horse while jockey Glyn Schofield briefly thought he was in with a chance.

"I could hear her coming," he said. "Then she hit overdrive and I could see her going."

Moody said there was no chance Black Caviar would come back for the All-Aged Stakes in two weeks but the 1,400m Group 1 is something McNair would like to explore.

"I will try to talk the owners into it," he said. "The main plan is the Goodwood in Adelaide in May.

"Usually she runs the fast sectionals between the 800 and 600 metres but today her last 200 was her best," Moody said.

"Maybe she could stretch out to a mile (1,600m) or a mile and a quarter (2,000m).

Race replay - Darley T J Smith Stakes, Apr 9, 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvlojjOwcW4) -no official upload yet - so this bootleg version by someone will have to do

The crowd was huge and mostly there just to see her.

Polydor
Apr. 9, 2011, 09:06 AM
OOoo if she's heading to Adelaide for the Goodwood, I am sooooo there! Would be a shame to miss it since i'm only a hop skip and a jump from Adelaide.

She looked more on fire today then last race where she basically canter down to the wire ( and won by a couple strides after missing the jump).

Found this comment from the video to be interesting :

" I was a jockey when i was younger, and i can tell you now, Black Caviar is not running a "distance" she's racing other horses. Which means that she will win over other distances, and I'm picking she'll win over the mile, and even further.

A horse that can only sprint usually is either a) inconsistent ( when coming from behind), b) usually only wins from the front.

Having missed the jump, and raced headed by other horses tells us she is "racing" other horses, not running a "distance.""

I can understand where he's coming from and should be interesting to see if they do push her or put her in any longer races.

P.

Drvmb1ggl3
Apr. 9, 2011, 10:21 AM
Race replay - Darley T J Smith Stakes, Apr 9, 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvlojjOwcW4) -no official upload yet - so this bootleg version by someone will have to do

The crowd was huge and mostly there just to see her.

Better quality replay of today's (last night's?) race here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M7zvQw7-4Q

Polydor
Apr. 10, 2011, 05:06 AM
Hearing that she may get a brief holiday then head north to Queensland for a race ( drawing blank on which one). Then head to Singapore, then on to Hong Kong then on to Ascot (??).

P.

Kyzteke
Apr. 10, 2011, 11:17 AM
Better quality replay of today's (last night's?) race here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M7zvQw7-4Q

Best in the world? Has she ever raced outside Aus.?

Glimmerglass
Apr. 10, 2011, 05:16 PM
Best in the world? Has she ever raced outside Aus.?

The latter is a rather moot point actually. As for the former - yes she is considered #1 in the world and not in a fan club kind of way.

The World Thoroughbred Rankings - IFHA (http://www.horseracingintfed.com/racingDisplay.asp?section=22)

In her 12 starts only 1 was restricted to female only competition. She's already toted more weight then most US graded stakes starters ever will in their careers.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 10, 2011, 05:22 PM
Worth pointing out: The Black Caviar earned an automatic spot in the $1 million Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint through the Breeders' Cup Challenge Series.

As part of the enhanced benefits program introduced this year, the Breeders' Cup will pay the entry fees for all Challenge winners and provide a travel allowance.

Polydor
Apr. 10, 2011, 11:43 PM
How did you earn her spot in the Sprint? Was it a certain race or just the fact that she has won so many and her rating is so high?

Would love to see her go to North America and kick some butt! :D

P.

harvestmoon
Apr. 11, 2011, 12:45 AM
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62383/black-caviar-qualifies-for-breeders-cup

I'd love to see her come here for the BC.

Glimmerglass
May. 13, 2011, 11:20 AM
Black Caviar lines up yet again this weekend (May 14) in Australia and TVG should be airing the race. Her jockey, Luke Nolen, is pressing to see if for 2012 she goes to Royal Ascot (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/australia-black-caviar-jockey-urges-royal-ascot-trip/856699/latest/):


Nolen rode Black Caviar for the first time since her arrival in Brisbane on Tuesday and left with the feeling she was close to her peak.

Black Caviar hasn't started since winning the Group 1 TJ Smith (1200m) at Randwick on April 9.

"She's put on a bit of weight but she'll tighten up a lot after that gallop," Nolen said. "Mentally and physically she's quite sharp but Peter Moody knows how and when to back off with his horses.

Hay List, Black Caviar's main rival, passed a veterinary inspection ordered by Racing Queensland stewards after arriving safely on Friday by float from Gosford.

Stewards' concerns were raised when Hay List tore a shoe off earlier in the week.

Calamber
May. 13, 2011, 12:31 PM
It is extremely notable not to see blinkers and tongue ties on every daggone horse in the race. What a beauty, so relaxed, not exhausted and washed out looking at the end. Glimmer, do you have any idea where I can look for the breakdown rates in Australia?

Calamber
May. 13, 2011, 12:33 PM
Better quality replay of today's (last night's?) race here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M7zvQw7-4Q

Thanks for this, this is one I will keep on eye on now that I do not have Queen Z to give me the shivers.

Glimmerglass
May. 13, 2011, 03:03 PM
Sourced from equidaily.com

Her race will be aired in the at US time, Sat 1:50am ET

PPs: Race 7 - Bundaberg Distilling Co. BTC Cup @ 1200 METRES (http://www.risa.com.au/FreeFields/Form.aspx?Key=2011May14,QLD,Doomben#Race7) Group 1 race for $400k AUD

Black Caviar is breaking from PP#2

Interesting bit of punting here:

Sydney Morning Herald May 11th: "It's red Caviar for lucky 13 but bookies bet she won't match Zenyatta" (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/its-red-caviar-for-lucky-13-but-bookies-bet-she-wont-match-zenyatta-20110511-1eiyw.html)


Kafataris's Centrebet, the subject of a $180 million takeover bid from rival Sportingbet yesterday, has Black Caviar at $1.20 to win. The only other runner under double-figure odds is the last-start All Aged Stakes winner Hay List ($6).

The Kafataris team is offering a price on whether Black Caviar can match the 19 straight wins by recently retired US champ Zenyatta. The odds about matching Zenyatta are $3.50 with $1.30 available for those thinking she'll come up short.

Centrebet is offering $2.60 about Black Caviar matching the 17 wins amassed by the Australian-bred Hong Kong champion Silent Witness, with $1.50 to say she cannot reach the mark.

Drvmb1ggl3
May. 13, 2011, 05:02 PM
It is extremely notable not to see blinkers and tongue ties on every daggone horse in the race. What a beauty, so relaxed, not exhausted and washed out looking at the end. Glimmer, do you have any idea where I can look for the breakdown rates in Australia?

I don't know if there is a figure for breakdowns as a whole, but the oft quoted figure for fatalities in Aussie racing is 0.44 per 1000 starts, and is generally considered one of the lowest in the world, I think only HK does better.

By comparision......

US (all surfaces) 2.00/1000
---- dirt 2.14/1000
---- synth 1.51/1000
---- turf 1.74/1000
UK 0.65/1000
Aus 0.44/1000
HK 0.35/1000

Both HK and Aus are known for very vigorous pre and post race vet exams. I'm sure that has to play a big part. HK esp has very high transparency on a horse's medical history, with every runner's history available for viewing online at the HKJC website.

Polydor
May. 14, 2011, 04:15 AM
YAY! You go girl! Didn't manage to watch but heard she won.

Bring on the world! :P

P.

lolita1
May. 14, 2011, 05:35 AM
Clamber there wouldn't be much difference in break down rates in Aus. Like most TB industries they really are not thinking longer than a racing career.

lolita1
May. 14, 2011, 05:37 AM
Yeah she is 13 for 13 starts which is great

laserRob
May. 14, 2011, 07:31 AM
Both HK and Aus are known for very vigorous pre and post race vet exams. I'm sure that has to play a big part. HK esp has very high transparency on a horse's medical history, with every runner's history available for viewing online at the HKJC website.

Yeah, very altruistic people.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Glimmerglass
May. 14, 2011, 10:14 AM
Video: pick ([Australia "A", Mar 13, R7) - Black Caviar wins her 13th consecutive (http://www.australianracing.com/pages/replay/9.php)

Sky News report (video) of her run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ki8DxchBc)

When a horse is running for her 13th win on Friday the 13th you know she'd be heavily wagered anyhow ;) Another she hands another red day to the bookies (http://www.justhorseracing.com.au/news/betting/black-caviar-hands-bookies-another-beating/) ...


Champion mare Black Caviar continues to cause bookies nightmares after she again landed some massive bets in the BTC Cup.

Sportingbet Australia CEO Michael Sullivan said Black Caviar had become the biggest scourge of bookies he could remember.

“The bets today included one punter who had $350,000, one who had $150,000 and multiple $100,000 wagers,” said Sullivan.

“We thought we were half a chance when she wobbled around the turn but once again she destroyed her rivals while giving her backers a fill up.

“It’s put in and take out but we’ll continue to take her on as you’d hate to miss out if and when she ever gets beaten.”

MintHillFarm
May. 14, 2011, 02:31 PM
She sure appears to have a great mind as well as being a superb race horse.

Calamber
May. 14, 2011, 10:30 PM
Clamber there wouldn't be much difference in break down rates in Aus. Like most TB industries they really are not thinking longer than a racing career.

Where are your figures from whence you draw that conclusion? See the above, if they can be trusted, that is a huge difference, at least in Australia as compared to the rest of the world. Did you notice what I said about blinkers and tongue ties? These used to be used in very unusual and difficult cases in the US in the long ago past (at least 2 decades). Now they seem to be standard equipement.

Calamber
May. 14, 2011, 10:34 PM
Yeah, very altruistic people.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

What do you mean by this comment? If the medical transparency is better in Hong Kong, what does that say for the US? Or do you just not believe them? Breakdown rates are pretty much proof in the pudding, even if "only" fatality rates are compared, per number of horses raced. That also is proof of the pudding and ours is contaminated pudding at best.

Drvmb1ggl3
May. 14, 2011, 11:48 PM
What do you mean by this comment? If the medical transparency is better in Hong Kong, what does that say for the US? Or do you just not believe them? .

Probably what laserBob is insinuating is that the reasons behind the Hong Kong Jockey Club's medical transparency is more to do with making the info available to the betting public and protecting the integrity of racing, and that the resultant benefit to horses is coincidental. They also give info like the horse's weight, and description of the all the horse's work on the track, i.e jogging, distance jogged, electronically timed workouts, all on the race card.

But whatever way you slice it, they have probably the safest racing in the world.

Drvmb1ggl3
Oct. 7, 2011, 10:26 PM
14 for 14 now.
Just won the Schillacci Stakes G2 over 1000m in breathless fashion.

OMG this mare is awesome. How often do you see a horse win a 5f race by open lengths in a canter under a hand ride?
You gotta watch the replay when it becomes available.

Drvmb1ggl3
Oct. 8, 2011, 12:07 PM
Replay of her latest win.
http://youtu.be/cowGnOtUB38

Glimmerglass
Oct. 8, 2011, 08:06 PM
Wow! Not just a slight victory over the field but rather a convincing beating while in hand over the field. Sensational! 14-0, just amazing.

jenm
Oct. 10, 2011, 12:27 PM
ty for share best one

reported

Polydor
Oct. 12, 2011, 11:50 PM
Love this girl!

We had a filly be compared to Black Caviar which is pretty cool and amazing if she is half as good as the Black Caviar!

P.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 20, 2011, 09:57 AM
Oct 19, 2011 "Black Caviar out to go 15-0" (http://www.drf.com/news/black-caviar-out-go-15-0)


Black Caviar has four rivals in the $300k AU Group 2 Schweppes Stakes, which is run over about six furlongs. Black Caviar won her 14th race in the Group 2 Schillaci Stakes at Caulfield, Australia, on Oct. 8, her first start since May.

In the Schweppes, she faces the multiple stakes winner Scenic Blast, who raced briefly in the United States in 2010. The 2008-09 Horse of the Year in Australia, Scenic Blast was winless in five starts in California for trainer John Shirreffs. Shirreffs trained Zenyatta, the winner of her first 19 races and the 2010 Horse of the Year.

(pdf) Race entries and PP's here - race off at 12:20 am Friday EST (http://static.drf.com/PPs/2011/10/schweppes5A.pdf)

DRF - free living video streaming of the Friday (morning US) race (http://www.drf.com/events/australian-racing-live-stream)

Some advanced drama, not from her, but other "threatening" horses in the same race and stabling!

Sydney Morning Herald Oct 21, 2011 "Safety first: 'rogue' horse faces a stall order to spare Black Caviar a beating" (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/safety-first-rogue-horse-faces-a-stall-order-to-spare-black-caviar-a-beating-20111020-1macl.html)


Racing authorities confirmed last night that Black Caviar would have a vacant stall on her outside at Moonee Valley tomorrow after it was agreed that notorious barrier rogue Here De Angels will be moved one stall further out so as not to pose any threat of physical harm to the precious mare.

The eight-year-old gelding was banned from racing in Victoria when trained here late last year, and Black Caviar's trainer, Peter Moody, remembers well the sprinter's constant unruly antics. So much so that when he saw the horse draw alongside his unbeaten champion, he immediately approached stewards in the hope of having him moved.

''You wouldn't be able to live with yourself if he wanted to climb the stall and hurt her,'' Moody said yesterday. ''I'm not worried about her [in the barriers]. I'm worried about him trying to climb into her stall. She won't hurt herself, it's him I'm worried about.''

Bailey said that, in his three years as chief steward in Melbourne, Here De Angels was the ''worst barrier horse'' he had seen. ''All his barrier troubles have been down here [Melbourne] and horses don't often forget,'' he said.


Away from the controversy, Roche is looking forward to taking on the superstar in tomorrow's Schweppes Stakes, despite the odds: Black Caviar is $1.04 to win, Here De Angels $81.

elsbet
Oct. 21, 2011, 01:10 PM
So what time is the race going off today? I sure would love to watch it!

Glimmerglass
Oct. 21, 2011, 02:57 PM
So what time is the race going off today? I sure would love to watch it!

This listed time is 12:20 am (Saturday morning) Eastern or 11:20 pm Central Friday night. The Cox Plate is actually the signature race tonight which is a prep to the Melbourne Cup.

elsbet
Oct. 21, 2011, 03:45 PM
Thanks, Glimmerglass! I guess I will have to wait to watch it then......I might be able to watch it - depends on what time we get home fromt he concert tonight. :)

Drvmb1ggl3
Oct. 21, 2011, 04:44 PM
I think it's a bit of a disservice to call the Cox Plate a mere Melbourne Cup prep. It is Australasia's greatest middle distance Weight for Age race, and carries a $3m purse to boot, so it's more like the Australian equivalent of the Breeder's Cup Classic or the Prix de l'Arc. The winner can rightfully call themselves the best middle distance horse down under.

The big Cup is definitely the more famous race of the two, but it's a Handicap that is often not won by the 'best' horse, more like the best 'weighted' horse. To use a jump racing analogy, I would compare the two races to the Cheltenham Gold Cup and the Grand National, the latter being more famous but the former being the real championship race of jump racing.

CVPeg
Oct. 21, 2011, 06:54 PM
HRTV is covering Black Caviar's race - only they say it is at 9:20 Eastern...! Maybe 9:20 is the beginning of their card?

From their Facebook page,

HRTV
HRTV will carry the brilliant Australian mare Black Caviar's attempt to remain undefeated in 15 career starts tonight at 9:20 p.m. ET/6:20 p.m. PT during HRTV's regularly-scheduled programming.

Edit: Well, since nothing happened at 9:20 EST, sounds like Glimmerglass's 12:20am time is correct.

Drvmb1ggl3
Oct. 22, 2011, 12:26 AM
Wow... 15 for 15

It's starting to get silly at this point. It's not just winning, but she wins by open lengths in an absolute canter. Horses don't win Turf sprints by multiple lengths... those are usually blanket finishes.
She doesn't even look she is running. Completely effortless. There was a former Australian HOY behind her today.... he looked like a nickle claimer in her wake.

Slewdledo
Oct. 22, 2011, 12:30 AM
"makes 'em all look pretty ordinary." :lol: That she does.

LOVE how the crowd adores her and it was a HUGE crowd today.

Slewdledo
Oct. 22, 2011, 12:31 AM
They're playing "Back In Black" for her. :D

Drvmb1ggl3
Oct. 22, 2011, 01:45 AM
Replay of the Schweppes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1asxt5U48g

CVPeg
Oct. 22, 2011, 07:00 AM
Replay of the Schweppes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1asxt5U48g

Thanks! - couldn't find the complete race.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 24, 2011, 07:58 AM
Don't expect a Breeders' Cup or Dubai visit but England, maybe ...

RacingPost 10-23-11 "Moody outlines Euro campaign for Caviar" (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/black-caviar-peter-g-moody-moody-outlines-possible-euro-campaign-for-caviar/936421/latest/)


[Trainer - Peter Moody] ruled out any possible trip to Hong Kong, Dubai or Singapore in colourful terms. "Why should we supplement every other bastard's racing around the world?" he said. "Let's supplement our own and enjoy her here for as long as we can?"

However, Moody also told the Racing Post that Europe remains prominent in his thinking after Black Caviar has finished her Australian autumn campaign, outlining a schedule for 2012 taking in the Golden Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot and the July Cup before a tilt at the Prix de la Foret.

"I'm as keen as anyone to see her race abroad but I want Australia to see her and enjoy what she does," he explained.

"When she has finished here, I can see us coming over for the Golden Jubilee, July Cup and the seven-furlong race on Arc day. There's no need to rush back for a stud career or anything like that."

elsbet
Oct. 24, 2011, 08:13 AM
Hey, Glimmer - I DID get to see the race!!! Friday was my birthday and we went to see Jackson Browne in concert at the Lyric and by the time we got home and crawled into bed it was 12:15. What an amazing race, and an absolutely phenominal horse!!!!! I'm so glad I got to watch it!

Blinkers On
Oct. 24, 2011, 12:51 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/christyj/BlackCaviar.jpg

Glimmerglass
Oct. 24, 2011, 02:34 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/christyj/BlackCaviar.jpg

Ha! :D

A lovely photo of BC post victory with the place just packed! (http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/10/22/1226173/865562-black-caviar.jpg)

Polydor
Oct. 29, 2011, 11:04 PM
Love that comic picture! Going to pass that along to bosses.

P.

Drvmb1ggl3
Nov. 5, 2011, 12:40 AM
OK, Glimmer, time to change the thread title again... she just went 16-0, winning the Patinack Farm Classic (G1, 6f, ~$1.25m).
Once again she went off at insane odds, and once again she wins easily... basically canters home.
Here's the last couple of furlongs, hopefully a better replay will show up soon... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jW1PbWWQZ4

Glimmerglass
Nov. 5, 2011, 10:44 AM
OK, Glimmer, time to change the thread title again... she just went 16-0, winning the Patinack Farm Classic (G1, 6f, ~$1.25m).

Yep. TVG aired the race live however did little to promote the race and its sadly been lost in the whirlwind of the BC races.

Racing Post 11-5-11 "Black Caviar eases to 16th straight victory (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/black-caviar-eases-to-16th-straight-win/942865/melbournespringcarnival/)


Sent off 1-25, she beat Buffering by two and three-quarter lengths. "She's just one helluva horse," said trainer Peter Moody.

"She can only race what's there and they're all Group horses behind her and once again she's toyed with them.

"It's unbelievable the people she's bringing to the races - she's great for our sport. I'm just grateful to be a little part of it."

Moody, who is keen to run Black Caviar over 7f, is planning to give Black Caviar one more outing this year in Perth's Winterbottom Stakes before sights are trained on Royal Ascot in 2012 after her autumn campaign.

A better version of the race on-line ...

Youtube - Race 16 Nov 5, 201 Patinack Farm Classic1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nxUVoisXjc)

Glimmerglass
Nov. 7, 2011, 11:53 AM
Small injury, will not race again in 2011 afterall, but is aimed for the UK in 2012!

Racing Post Nov 7, 2011 "Black Caviar finished for 2011 after 16th victory" (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/sprint-star-black-caviar-finished-for-the-year/943822/)


Moody told racing officials on Monday that the unbeaten five-year-old would be spelled after he was unhappy with how she pulled up following her 16th win in the Patinack Farm Classic on Saturday.

"She knows she's had a run," Moody told Radio Sport National.

"She is a little bit jarry and has a little muscle tear up high behind.

"It is nothing too dramatic but just enough to suggest to us, after consultation with the owners, that she will have a little rest rather than go to Perth, unfortunately."

Moody said Black Caviar would now have three weeks off and kick off her 2012 campaign in the Group 1 Australia Stakes at Moonee Valley on January 27.

Moody believes it will be her best campaign yet as he pushes her beyond 1200 metres for the first time ahead of a proposed trip to Britain for the Royal Ascot meeting in June.

Glimmerglass
Jan. 24, 2012, 03:33 PM
And Black Caviar will be back this Friday (1/27) (http://www.drf.com/news/black-caviar-test-unbeaten-record-australia-stakes) in a race that could prove a good but challenging start to 2012:


The Australia Stakes, run over about six furlongs with an approximate purse of $208,000, is the first of three expected starts in the next month that will determine Black Caviar’s spring campaign.

The race has drawn a field of nine, including Rajsaman, winner of the Group 2 Prix Daniel Wildenstein last October in France; Musir, winner of the 2010 UAE Derby; and the minor European stakes winners Sandagiyr and Win For Sure. Musir won the first round of the Maktoum Challenge at Meydan earlier this month.

Absent from the race is Mosheen (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/black-caviar-already-claims-one-casualty-with-her-return-to-the-track-20120123-1qdz3.html) as her connections think taking on Caviar this soon isn't favorable.

After this race - provided all is good - it will hopefully be to Ascot by summer:


Trainer Peter Moody has two Group 1 stakes over about seven furlongs at Caulfield on Black Caviar’s schedule in February – the $416,000 C.F. Orr Stakes on Feb. 11 and the $520,000 Futurity Stakes on Feb. 25.

After that, Black Caviar, 6, could start in the $1.4 million Newmarket Handicap over six furlongs at Flemington Racecourse or travel to Dubai for the $2 million Golden Shaheen at Meydan Racecourse. A long-term goal is the Royal Ascot meeting in England in June.

Black Caviar's official fan site in Oz (http://www.blackcaviar.net.au/)

The Daily Telegraph (http://www.blackcaviar.net.au/news/bush-unknown-dares-take-black-caviar) is dismissing one runner in the field Friday as being utterly and completely out of BC's league - then again horses don't read ;)


Laying down the challenge will be Arrogant Cat, a four-year-old mare with her claim to fame being a last-start maiden win at Ararat in country Victoria.

She has only recorded the one win from three starts, her first two inglorious defeats at Sale and Geelong, and does not even have enough prizemoney in the bank to buy a new Hyundai.

Black Caviar boasts a handicappers rating of 130 while Arrogant Cat's is not even half of that at 62.

Finishers 6, 7 and 8 each take home 4,000AU$ so its not as economically silly to lose but win with a check.

Glimmerglass
Jan. 26, 2012, 04:08 PM
TVG will air her 2012 debut and attempt at win #17 and I think anyone in North America will need to setting your DVR to catch the race ;) It will go off at 4:15 AM Eastern Standard Time Friday morning

(pdf) AUSTRALIA STAKES (US$210K) PPs Race 4c - page 45 of 45 (https://www.tvg.com/forms/Australia012612.pdf) Horse 6 and breaking from PP 1. On a side note if you look at the line I'm not sure why there is a typo in her past performance cited as she did not finish behind Buffering in her last effort

She, and another, will tote @ 125-lbs vs. the rest at 129-lbs

Just don't wager everything you have on the race as the return will be almost nil

Brisbane Times (AU) 1-27-12 "Black Caviar has world on her plate, but home is first" (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/horseracing/black-caviar-has-world-on-her-plate-but-home-is-first-20120126-1qjsa.html)


" .... Royal Ascot is the ultimate goal, and Pete wants to get her there in 100 per cent shape, and working out the best way to do that is what we have to talk about.''

There is also the matter of continuing her unbeaten run, which stands at 16. Moody has said he would like to get Black Caviar to 20 wins on end before taking her overseas

Werrett said Royal Ascot was not the most lucrative option but the dream of running at the world's most famous meeting captivates the owners. ''You don't get a horse like her in your dreams. Royal Ascot is one of those places you do dream about,'' Werrett said. ''There are plenty of million-dollar races around [the world] but I think for Australian sprinters winning at Royal Ascot has something very special about it.

''It is like the English stayers coming over here and trying to win the Melbourne Cup; it is the ultimate challenge. There is something magical about Royal Ascot and for her to prove herself there would be incredible.''

New Zealand Herald 1/27/12 "Black Caviar almost unbackable in Australia stakes" (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/racing/news/article.cfm?c_id=53&objectid=10781470)


Luke Nolen is not perturbed by Black Caviar drawing barrier one for the first time as she shoots for her 17th straight win in tonight's Group Two Australia Stakes at Moonee Valley.

The world's highest ranked sprinter and second overall behind English superstar Frankel faces just six rivals in the 1200m, weight-for-age feature which she won two years ago when she beat four rivals. "One is better than seven," Nolen said.

Black Caviar is a virtually unbackable $1.02 favourite with TAB Sportsbet ahead of Zedi Knight at $21, Moody's second stringer Doubtful Jack at $26 and Rock Classic at $35.

Glimmerglass
Jan. 27, 2012, 10:10 AM
17-0 for the sensational Aussie gal

Video replay - (G2) Australia Stakes at Moonee Valley JAN 27 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEIWZMABMb0)

Video - post race; Racing Victoria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMahxL0tSTM)

texang73
Jan. 27, 2012, 11:53 AM
So awesome! :D

I'd love to see the pretty mare in person, but alas a ticket to Australia is abit too far out of my budget!

Glimmerglass
Jan. 27, 2012, 12:27 PM
I'd love to see the pretty mare in person, but alas a ticket to Australia is abit too far out of my budget!

Then book a ticket for England and Royal Ascot as they plan to go there with her this June :D

lolita1
Jan. 28, 2012, 01:48 AM
What a wonderful mare. Today I was looking at her fan site and reading about her did'n't expect to see her mentioned here again not that I look here often. BTW reading her trainers comments the one thing he appears worried about is her ... the suggestion is that he would retire her at the slightest reason to do with her health. And it looks like she is going o/s but while planning it they really do stress the 110% factor in her health with out that it looks like they would retire her immediately.

So lovely to read it. 17 from 17 is amazing.

Glimmerglass
Jan. 29, 2012, 04:03 PM
Video on youtube:

At the Races (UK): 'Black Caviar .. The Story So Far' (1/19/12) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5JEYXrqo84) (34-min long)

Drvmb1ggl3
Jan. 30, 2012, 11:21 AM
Apparently, CH7, Australia's biggest TV network actually cut into coverage of the semi final of the Australian Open to break away to show her race live.

lolita1
Feb. 4, 2012, 12:22 AM
Glimmerglass thanks for posting that link really great to watch.

CVPeg
Feb. 4, 2012, 08:03 AM
Glimmerglass thanks for posting that link really great to watch.

This! :yes:

Glimmerglass
Feb. 6, 2012, 12:53 PM
As a fan I just want to see her ship to England so I'll keep an eye on her ... and she returns this Saturday (2/11/12) in the 1400m Group 1 CF Orr Stakes at Caulfield. Note the distance as of 17 starts 13 of them have been at 1200m. There is some concern with this race for its distance and competition, but it should make her that much stronger.

This has to be one of those newsroom headlines too good to pass up and no its not quite what you think:

AAP: Feb 6, 2012 "God No Match For Black Caviar" (http://formguide.cyberhorse.com.au/2012020653630/Australia/God-No-Match-For-Black-Caviar.html)


Perth trainer Neville Parnham is flying Playing God across the Nullabor for the Orr Stakes but has already conceded that he can't stop the winning run of Black Caviar.

"I am looking forward to Saturday but obviously he is not going to beat her," Parnham said.

He said Playing God, tuned up with a barrier trial win at Ascot on Monday, had the St George Stakes (1800m) on February 25 and the Australian Cup (2000m) on March 10 as his premier autumn targets.

"So long as he runs an even race and is working to the line like a miler and middle distance horse should do on Saturday, I will be happy," Parnham said.

After this she will Futurity Stakes on February 27 in Oz (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/black-caviar-getting-set-for-dubai-before-ascot/983792/top/) and "50/50" for Dubai's $2 million Group 1 Golden Shaheen.

Her connections are eying a unique bonus: an additional $1 million bonus for a horse that wins in three countries, part of the Global Sprint Challenge.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 8, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jay Hovdey Feb 8, 2012 "Australia's most talked-about female is Black Caviar" (http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-australias-most-talked-about-female-black-caviar)


Quite understandably, Down Under sports fans only recently recovered from the Australian Open are in a tizzy. Black Caviar has become a national institution, one whose owners have promised to take her on the road this spring to Royal Ascot in England if all continues to go well.

Black Caviar also is a sprinter who has never run beyond six furlongs (1,200 meters), which means the seven furlongs of the Orr will represent uncharted territory. According to the Australian wagering website backawinner.com, the Orr “is rarely won by sprinting stars and instead the winners of past Orr Stakes tend to be middle-distance horses or true stayers who start their autumn campaigns in this race.”

Does this make Black Caviar vulnerable? Her trainer, Peter Moody, does not sound all that worried. In a report provided by this correspondent’s man in Australia, Ballina Jockey Club president Robert Jemison, the Herald-Sun reported Moody saying the biggest Orr Stakes danger to Black Caviar “was that she might fall asleep,” since the 1,400-meter start is just 20 meters from her stall.

:D

What are her odds right now for the 18th start on Saturday? TAB Sportsbet yesterday (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/superracing/caviar-will-run-orr-rivals-off-their-legs/story-fn67m7qu-1226266194133) opened Black Caviar at $1.04 to win the C.F. Orr Stakes.

CVPeg
Feb. 8, 2012, 07:26 PM
OK, so speaking of sleep, would that be another 4am EST start time on Saturday? :sleepy:

Glimmerglass
Feb. 9, 2012, 12:21 PM
Yep - another crack of dawn race for us in the States.

As for hopes of her racing in the US with the Breeders' Cup that is a no. Why? Not enough money offered (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/japan-us-off-black-caviars-radar/story-fn67siys-1226267094136) :D


Moody said he had been flooded with inquiries from all over the world for Black Caviar to appear at carnivals, and a French film crew would follow her trackwork next week.

He said a Breeders Cup start in the US was unlikely because of relatively poor stakemoney.

I'm reminded of the infamous quote in 1990 by supermodel Linda Evangelista (http://www.vogue.com/voguepedia/Linda_Evangelista), "We don't wake up for less than $10000 a day."

harvestmoon
Feb. 9, 2012, 04:08 PM
Yep - another crack of dawn race for us in the States.

As for hopes of her racing in the US with the Breeders' Cup that is a no. Why? Not enough money offered (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/japan-us-off-black-caviars-radar/story-fn67siys-1226267094136) :D

Hmph. :(

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 9, 2012, 08:17 PM
Interesting he would claim that the money isn't big enough, as the BC Turf Sprint ($1m) is worth almost as much as the two races she is likely to run in at Ascot combined (£300k and £400k, for a total for $1.1m), and she'd only have to run once at Santa Anita as opposed to twice in 4 days at Ascot.
Now, granted the profile and prestige of the Kings Stand G1 and Golden Jubilee G1 at Ascot is waaaay higher than the still somewhat new BC Turf Sprint, which was only just upgraded from a G3 to a G2. Also like most Aussie visitors she is probably having her travel expenses paid to Ascot, so that may be a factor too. Don't think the BC does that. Maybe they should throw her a carrot.

CVPeg
Feb. 10, 2012, 03:42 PM
I just saw the following on HRTV's FB site,

"HRTV
Black Caviar looks to extend her 17 win streak tonight in the CF Orr Stakes at Caulfield. HRTV will show the race slightly tape delayed at 12:00 a.m. ET Saturday morning/9:00 p.m. PT Friday evening, following the re-air of Pursuit.'"

That's a bit confusing, unless the race is early in the card...and I've seen confusion on posted times for the odd race on racing channels.

Then I just got this off of the Adelaide.now site Glimmerglass quoted above for the odds...but now is that South Australia time, or Victoria time? (I should know - I actually lived there for a year many moons ago!)

"TAB Sportsbet yesterday opened Black Caviar at $1.04 to win the C.F. Orr Stakes, run at 3.50pm on Saturday, with Southern Speed at $15."

Just checked the world clock online, Adelaide is a half hour behind Sydney...Sydney is 16 hours ahead of our EST...phew.:confused:

Think I'll PM Polydor...!:yes:

Either way, I guess that HRTV time sounds right if they are 16 hrs ahead...

Glimmerglass
Feb. 10, 2012, 04:56 PM
CVPeg - yep my bad with the time. However the result is good for all as it isn't the wee small hours that Frank Sinatra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyE9IN7JSVU) sang about ;)

The Post time/USA: Fri, 11:50pm ET

Past Performances for the Program - this will be Race SIX (http://www.tvg.com/forms/Australia021012.pdf)

TVG will air it live ....

CVPeg
Feb. 10, 2012, 06:58 PM
Well, Polydor responded "this morning"...;)

The time is 3:50 Victoria time, and they are 16 hrs ahead.

She has a connection to Southern Speed, so is a little torn!


Thanks so much for the PPs, Glimmerglass, and after watching on TVG, will play Frank to top it off. :cool:

Polydor
Feb. 10, 2012, 07:22 PM
Morning everyone! :D

Should be a fun day. Would looooove to be there to cheer on Caviar and Southern Speed ( winner of the Caulfield Cup).

It is suppose to be raining but don't think that is going to stop the crowds at all specially with the free admission.

Can't wait for 3: 20pm ( adelaide time)

P.

harvestmoon
Feb. 10, 2012, 07:34 PM
Interesting he would claim that the money isn't big enough, as the BC Turf Sprint ($1m) is worth almost as much as the two races she is likely to run in at Ascot combined (£300k and £400k, for a total for $1.1m), and she'd only have to run once at Santa Anita as opposed to twice in 4 days at Ascot.
Now, granted the profile and prestige of the Kings Stand G1 and Golden Jubilee G1 at Ascot is waaaay higher than the still somewhat new BC Turf Sprint, which was only just upgraded from a G3 to a G2. Also like most Aussie visitors she is probably having her travel expenses paid to Ascot, so that may be a factor too. Don't think the BC does that. Maybe they should throw her a carrot.

I hope so! *fingers crossed*

Toadie's mom
Feb. 10, 2012, 08:19 PM
thanks guys. I was really confused about the time, but DVR is programed now!

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 10, 2012, 11:46 PM
Holy smokes... look at the crowd!!!

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 10, 2012, 11:53 PM
Will someone please give this mare a real race!!
Another canter in park for her. Jockey motionless. Waltzed home.
Getting silly at this point.

Polydor
Feb. 10, 2012, 11:55 PM
Well yet another walk in the park for Ms Black Caviar!

Well done with Southern Speed! Was hoping for a little bit closer but very happy with Ms Speedy.

Amazed to hear that Caviar takes 8 lengths less then other horses over 200 m!!

Also crowd is over 25K most likely 30K and its not a major race day at all!

P.

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 10, 2012, 11:57 PM
Trainer says she could be back next weekend and the following weekend (gotta love those Aussies running back in a week).
The other horses better start running now.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 11, 2012, 09:57 AM
Video replay: Feb 11, 2012 "Sportingbet C.F. Orr Stakes" Race 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39gE8Q0OIDw)

And with that easy, in-hand victory she is now 18-0 lifetime.

Some pix off of this TB News (AU) link (http://www.thoroughbrednews.com.au/australia/default.aspx?id=57927)

Glimmerglass
Feb. 12, 2012, 05:56 PM
Ascot's Queen Anne Stakes - Frankel v. Black Caviar? Doubtful but .. (http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-sports/horse-racing/british-bookmaker-installs-frankel-favourite-over-black-caviar-in-hypothetical-royal-ascot-showdown/story-e6frf41l-1226269046524)


the [bookies have already looked at the] prospect of a potential clash with Sir Henry Cecil's colt in the Queen Anne Stakes.

Coral quotes 4-6 ($1.50) about Frankel and 11-10 ($2.10) about Black Caviar in the match bet.

"Black Caviar looked every bit as good over seven furlongs as she has over shorter distances, and as far as we're concerned it's not a question of if she wins the Diamond Jubilee Stakes, but by how far, if that is her target at the Royal meeting," Coral spokesman David Stevens said.

"However, a showdown with Frankel would be every racing fan's dream, and over the mile of the Queen Anne, we would only just favour the British colt."

It would be one heck of a race to see!

Kyzteke
Feb. 12, 2012, 06:27 PM
Will someone please give this mare a real race!!
Another canter in park for her. Jockey motionless. Waltzed home.
Getting silly at this point.

Exactly! Even her trainer admits "she's never been truly pushed."

Hard to call her the best in the world unless she runs against others in her class.

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 12, 2012, 10:14 PM
Hard to call her the best in the world unless she runs against others in her class.

Australia is generally considered to have the best grass sprinters in the world. She has easily trounced every thing she has faced in Australia. So, she has every claim to be best in the world in her class, sprinting on the green stuff.

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 12, 2012, 10:19 PM
Ascot's Queen Anne Stakes - Frankel v. Black Caviar? Doubtful but .. (http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-sports/horse-racing/british-bookmaker-installs-frankel-favourite-over-black-caviar-in-hypothetical-royal-ascot-showdown/story-e6frf41l-1226269046524)



It would be one heck of a race to see!

Newmarket, or even Ascot should seize the opportunity and set up a match race over 7f.
Let them both run at the Royal meeting at their respective distances, BC in the sprints and Frankel in the big mile race. Then 3-4 weeks later a match over a straight 7f.
Man, that would be something to see, he with his high cruising speed and her stalking him with her incredible turn of foot.
Pity I didn't have several million sitting around or I'd do it.

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 12, 2012, 10:34 PM
She could be back next weekend, you gotta love the Aussie attitude to racing, check out the highlighted bit.


Australia: A decision on whether Black Caviar runs in the Lightning Stakes will not be made until Wednesday.

Trainer Peter Moody has thrown a curve ball at some of his fellow trainers who targeted their horses at the Group 1 sprint on the basis the mare would not be in the race.

However, after he 18th consecutive win in Saturday's C F Orr Stakes over 7f, Moody was warming even further to the idea of the seven-day back-up at Flemington.

He reasons she will have to have a searching 1000-metre gallop on Saturday anyway, so it might as well be for prize-money.

The ease with which she passed her first test at 1400 metres in the Orr has added another dimension to her growing legend.

"We all had shivers yesterday - we are in awe of her," part-owner Neil Werrett told Sydney's Sky Sports Radio.

"I asked Peter last night about the Lightning and his comment was 50-50. She will be nominated on Monday and won't do much work until Wednesday.

"It will depend after that how she is whether she will be an acceptor or not."

"She was quite amazing yesterday. Luke (Nolen) didn't touch her and if anything was pulling herup at the end.

"The reason being we wanted to look after her with a view to next week."

Moody admits Black Caviar is high maintenance and Werrett says just because it looks easy, her efforts take their toll.

"It looked easy but it still takes a lot out of her," he said.

"She is such a big horse. She is an out-and-out champion and we have to protect her and make sure her health is 100 per cent.

Hay List, who finished second to Black Caviar three times last autumn, heads the other entries which will include Queenslander Buffering who ran second to her in the Patinack Farm Classic in November.

The Lightning Stakes is a leg of the Global Sprint Challenge which includes the Diamond Jubilee Stakes, Black Caviar's mission at Royal Ascot in June.

Polydor
Feb. 12, 2012, 10:36 PM
oo I like that idea Drvmb!

I think most of Aus would love to see "their" girl take on the world. She pretty much has Australia at a standstill when she runs.

Will be interesting to see if they continue to lengthen the distance she races over. She does seem to be the type to just chase down the competition over what ever distance.

P.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 13, 2012, 11:37 AM
She could be back next weekend, you gotta love the Aussie attitude to racing, check out the highlighted bit.

Running back as a paid workout :D

It might however be far from a cakewalk as 'plenty willing to take on unbeaten Black Caviar' (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/flemington-australia-plenty-willing-to-take-on-black-caviar/987283/)


Saturday's 5f event has attracted 15 challengers for the super mare as trainer Peter Moody dares to back her up after her annihilation of last Saturday's Orr Stakes field at her first 7f test.

Should she win her next two starts she will eclipse the Australasian record of 19 successive wins by Gloaming and Desert Gold which has stood for nearly 90 years.

Moody is backing Black Caviar to be more resilient than previous campaigns with his plan to take her overseas.

Dubai and Royal Ascot beckon but Moody describes Black Caviar as "high maintenance" andwhether he can get her there remains to be seen.

Kyzteke
Feb. 13, 2012, 01:45 PM
Australia is generally considered to have the best grass sprinters in the world. She has easily trounced every thing she has faced in Australia. So, she has every claim to be best in the world in her class, sprinting on the green stuff.


No -- she is the best in Australia. For her to be considered "Best in the World" she needs to challenge other horses of her class, just like any other champion.

As I said, if her TRAINER says she's never really been challenged, I figure he must know what he's talking about, don't you? After all, he's the one training the horse...

Continuing to follow BC's possible follow-up race to make #19; I am more and more impressed with her trainer's handling of her. Putting just abit more stress on her physically and "emotionally" (by doing a back to back run) in hopes of making her more resilient to traveling overseas to compete.

My understanding is that if BC captures #19, she will hold the Aussie record for most wins in a row, correct? I'm betting if she handles her next few races well and they have that record in their pocket, they might give going elsewhere a shot.

I would love to see this mare go eye-to-eye with another good horse

lizathenag
Feb. 17, 2012, 07:30 AM
I just placed my bet on Black Caviar for my collection. If she wins, I will put it with my Seattle Slew KD and Belmont win tickets.

if she doesn't I will cash in my bet on Hay List.

Here is an interesting article about him.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/hay-list-unlucky-to-run-into-one-better/story-fn67siys-1226273127901


Hay List won his first eight starts. The next big thing from Perth, he was brought to the east to prove himself.

Second time out for new trainer John McNair, Hay List bolted in in the Healey Stakes in Brisbane in June 2010. Then he came down to Melbourne and won three straight.

Racing prepared itself for the era of Hay List. Jockey Glyn Schofield would become famous, as would Gosford horse-whisperer McNair.

The next big thing, the emerger, was Black Caviar, who'd barely earned a headline, let alone generated her own merchandise.

This is where the story, not just of Hay List, but of both horses, takes a dramatic turn.

Hay List kicked the bejesus out of a concrete trough, missed a bit of work, then took on Black Caviar half-right in the 2010 Patinack Farm Classic.

The filly bolted in. Then the story became increasingly lopsided.

She flogged him in the T.J. Smith in Sydney, albeit after he gave her half a fright in the straight. Then she repeated the dose in the BTC Cup in Brisbane.

So the once-in-a-decade horse had become the whipping boy of the once-in-a-lifetime horse.

Since Brisbane, Black Caviar's career has shot into the stratosphere, while Hay List's has stagnated through injury.

The betting for tomorrow's Lightning Stakes tells the story; Black Caviar is unbackable at $1.10, Hay List out the gate at $9.

It's easy to portray those connected with Hay List as cruel victims of history. Any other era, and Hay List would be Black Caviar.

Kyzteke
Feb. 17, 2012, 09:18 AM
I just placed my bet on Black Caviar for my collection. If she wins, I will put it with my Seattle Slew KD and Belmont win tickets.

if she doesn't I will cash in my bet on Hay List.

Here is an interesting article about him.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/hay-list-unlucky-to-run-into-one-better/story-fn67siys-1226273127901

Very interesting. History certainly does play a part in how "great" a horse is considered. I always felt sorry for Sham...I truly believe if he had not been born the same year as Secretariat he would have won the TC himself...

Glimmerglass
Feb. 17, 2012, 09:44 AM
I just placed my bet on Black Caviar for my collection. If she wins, I will put it with my Seattle Slew KD and Belmont win tickets.

Lizathenag - very cool!

Race PPs (pdf): Black Caviar is in the Lightning Stakes, Race 6A (http://www.tvg.com/forms/Australia021712.pdf)

Either stay up or set the DVR for TVG - race off FRI @ 11:10 pm Central Standard Times or for the East Coast folks SAT at 12:10 am

Polydor
Feb. 17, 2012, 08:50 PM
Somewhat surprised that Haylist's trainer is indeed going through with running him against her in his first start back. Should be interesting.

Boss is down there today watching her. Lucky! Along with a few of our homebreds running so should be a good day !

Will have to catch the replay since I have to run into town!

P.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 17, 2012, 11:39 PM
About 20-minutes and a few out from her 19th start ... watch it live on-line, via:

http://www.drf.com/events/black-caviar-goes-19-flemington-aus

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 18, 2012, 01:56 AM
Number 19.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMdsCHbSdAs

Someone finally made her work for a change, Hay List throwing down the gauntlet, enough to make Luke Nolen have to shake the stick at her.

Here are her 200m (1f) splits for the 1000m (5f) race.... check out that blistering sub 10 sec for the 3rd furlong.

200m - 13.54 [ 2]
400m - 10.21 [ 2] --- 23.75
600m - 9.98 [ 1] <-------:eek:
800m - 10.40 [ 1] --- 44.13
1000m - 11.40 [ 1] --- 55.53

CVPeg
Feb. 18, 2012, 11:32 AM
Her condition is amazing - a throw back in time. Not a problem!

Glimmerglass
Feb. 18, 2012, 05:47 PM
As the TVG announcer quipped after the race - "I suspect she was wondering 'where is the turn?'" as the straightaway is a bit of a change-up.

She didn't have it easy and certainly worked for that quasi-paid work cheque ;)

I'm hoping that Liza had put down a wager on the exacta of Black Caviar - Hay List ... an option not afforded bettors in the States.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 20, 2012, 09:24 AM
(AU) Canberra Times, Feb 19, 2012 "Blanket ban could end Caviar's overseas push" (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/horseracing/blanket-ban-could-end-caviars-overseas-push-20120219-1thjt.html) - excerpt


Trainer Peter Moody said he would talk to Dubai and Royal Ascot officials but if the blanket could not be used and an attendant was not allowed in the stall with her, Black Caviar would not be there.

''I'll be mentioning to both Dubai and Ascot that the barrier blanket will need to be used or they won't see her and we will need an attendant in with her,'' Moody said yesterday.

Barrier blankets are used to calm horses when they enter the gates and are left behind when the stalls open.

Black Caviar has had one throughout her career and Moody said it was an essential part of taking her to the races.

Update - Ascot is the only potential issue with the barrier as Dubai officials just reassured the connections (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/caviar-on-menu-for-dubai-after-fears-allayed-20120220-1tjp9.html) that it's OK.


Managing director for racing at the Dubai Racing Club, Martin Talty, said yesterday Black Caviar's needs would be easily accounted for. ''The barrier blanket is fine and as for having a man up in the barriers with her that is no problem - the only thing is that it must be a member of our race day staff,'' he said.

Also - will she run Saturday the 25th going back to back to back weekend? Initially doubtful but now it's likely ;)


It seems likely Saturday's group 1 Futurity Stakes at Caulfield will be the point Black Caviar attempts her 20th consecutive victory and Cox Plate winner Pinker Pinker is one of 17 entries set to tackle the mighty mare.

The world's highest-rated sprinter will be out to better champion US mare Zenyatta's run of 19 consecutive wins from debut as well as the Australasian record she shares with Gloaming (1919-21) and Desert Gold (1915-17)

''Fingers crossed that Black Caviar runs on Saturday,'' Melbourne Racing Club's media manager, Jake Norton, said. ''In our favour is that she pulled up well after the Lightning Stakes and the owners are keen to get the 20 wins up before she goes overseas.''

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 20, 2012, 11:47 AM
Shouldn't be a problem, those Monty Roberts blankets are not an uncommon sight on fractious horses on English racecourses. Handlers in the starting stall with the horses is not as common as you see stateside, but you do see it from time to time.
Hopefully Moody isn't going in search of excuses to stay at home.

Tapperjockey
Feb. 20, 2012, 03:41 PM
"Caviar on menu" (title of the article in above link) lol

Hmmm.. interesting chose of words lol

Polydor
Feb. 20, 2012, 10:37 PM
Yup looking very likely that she will be racing again this weekend which is sooo not fair for me cause all my co-workers are in Melbourne for the Yearling sale so they might get to go and watch :( BOO! But will mean that they should be chaotic before and after that race with all the extra people going through the barns.

P.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 21, 2012, 01:57 PM
Nixed - racing for her 20th in Melbourne also no Dubai !

Herald Sun 2-21-12 "Black Caviar Resting not Racing (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/why-peter-moody-wont-race-black-caviar-in-melbourne/story-fn67siys-1226277613341)


BLACK Caviar won't be chasing her record 20th consecutive win in Saturday's Futurity Stakes at Caulfield.

Or next month's Newmarket Handicap, or for that matter in Dubai, or anywhere else for the next two months.


[Trainer Pete Moody]"I have put "Nelly" in the paddock - at a destination that I'm not disclosing as the mare deserves some peace and quiet - for the next couple of weeks.

There's nothing wrong with her. To the contrary, she's at the top of her game.

But it's all geared around having her at her peak when she flies across to England for the Diamond Jubilee Stakes.

That's the Royal Ascot race the owners have had their sights on for some time and everything is being tailored like a Savile Row suit to have her cherry ripe for that race on June 23.

I've got no doubt that Black Caviar could have gone to the Futurity on Saturday and just won as easily as she did in the Orr Stakes earlier in the month, but it would have been her fourth run in five weeks.

While the Futurity, Newmarket, Dubai, William Reid and T.J. Smith Stakes are now all off the table, I'm looking to give Black Caviar her shot at stretching her winning streak to a perfect 20 in either Adelaide or Brisbane before we head off to England.

I haven't made up my mind yet, but she could either run in the Robert Sangster Stakes (1200m) at Morphettville on April 28 or the Goodwood over the same distance at the same track a fortnight later.

The other race in my thinking is the BTC Cup - the race she won last year - at Doomben, which is also on May 12.

She could even run in two races if I think she needs them. To my way of thinking she has to step on that plane in rock-hard fitness, ready to race.

Either way she will have two-and-a-half weeks back at my Caulfield stables before flying to England, three weeks before the Diamond Jubilee."

Polydor
Feb. 25, 2012, 07:27 PM
I really really hope that she goes for the Sangster Stakes in Adelaide. Pretty sure the entire farm would be going down for that if she did! Though I know Brisbane is fighting pretty hard for her.

P.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 26, 2012, 10:08 AM
Yesterday at Santa Anita (2-25) the owner of "The Factor" (George Bolton) said he and Bob Baffert were talking about sending him to Ascot to take on Black Caviar!

Following the decisive Grade 2, $200,000 San Carlos at Santa Anita (http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/triplecrown2012/story/_/id/7616040/the-factor-takes-san-carlos-eyes-black-caviar):


After the 3-5 favorite posted a front-running victory beneath Martin Garcia, and remained perfect from four starts at this seven-furlong trip, Bolton boldly declared that The Factor could clash with Australia's unbeaten superstar Black Caviar in the Group 1 Diamond Jubilee on June 23 at Royal Ascot. Baffert, who has now won with 16 of his last 17 starters nationally, sounded much less enthusiastic about the proposition of taking on the world's champion sprinter on her surface -- turf.

"My plan is to see how he comes out of it," Baffert said. "We have Dubai [the Group 1 Golden Shaheen on March 31], and George has been kicking around the Ascot thing, but there are more negatives than there are positives to it. For right now, we just want to soak up the win and enjoy it."

Just some more fun in racing for the fans!

Drvmb1ggl3
Feb. 26, 2012, 02:38 PM
Man, that would be an appetizing match up. I can't think of a sprinter in Europe that would give Black Caviar a run for her money. But that speed machine The Factor certainly could. His pedigree, both top and bottom, suggests he should act well on grass.... of course you never know till you try it, but he has won on synthetics, which might be an indicator. He is an animal at 7f, which should translate well to Ascot's stiff 6f straight course. C'mon Baffert, don't be so conservative.

oneyequine
Feb. 27, 2012, 03:15 AM
No -- she is the best in Australia. For her to be considered "Best in the World" she needs to challenge other horses of her class, just like any other champion.


Australia arguably has the worlds best sprinters. Black Caviar has nothing to prove. She is that much better, and has lengths on most all-time past sprinting champions, let alone the ones going around now..

chunky munky
Feb. 27, 2012, 05:25 AM
I would just like to see her run one time when I can be in the stands and clap and scream.

Polydor
Feb. 29, 2012, 04:52 AM
Its looking more and more likely that she will be coming to ADELAIDE! WOOOT! April 28 for the Sangster ( i think ..drawing a blank). Moody should be annoucing in the next couple days what the plans are.

As of right now, she is out in the paddock in an undisclosed location for a break.

P.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 26, 2012, 06:31 PM
Telegraph (UK) March 25, 2012 "If Black Caviar is as good as she looks she could steal Frankel's thunder" (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/9165977/If-Black-Caviar-is-as-good-as-she-looks-she-could-steal-Frankels-thunder.html)

She has just returned to her stable after a break and the next start is not yet determined. However it looks like a trip to England is still part of the plan.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 5, 2012, 12:30 PM
Some mega loot being extended for a match-up in England and could overshadow the Olympics ;)

Sporting Life Apr 5, 2012: "Caviar Team Not Ruling Out Sussex" (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/12/04/05/RACING_Sussex.html&BID=464)


Australian sensation Black Caviar is only likely to run in the Qipco Sussex Stakes if connections feel it is the right thing to do with the unbeaten mare, regardless of a £1million carrot being dangled for a clash with Frankel.

The big-race sponsors have pledged to up the prize-money for the Group One mile event from its current £300,000 - if Frankel and Black Caviar, the world's top two horses, turn up at Glorious Goodwood on August 1.


Coral have installed Frankel as 1-2 favourite in a match bet with Black Caviar (6-4) should they run in the Sussex.

"There isn't a racing fan on the planet who isn't excited by the prospect of these two equine superstars clashing this summer, and in pricing the race up we just favour our own star Frankel over Black Caviar should they meet at Goodwood," said Simon Clare, Coral spokesman.

"Timing-wise a clash between Frankel and Black Caviar in the Sussex Stakes would coincide with the Olympics and the considerable novelty factor of this heavyweight clash could attract even greater attention from sports fans and media at a time when their eyes are firmly focused on Britain."

Polydor
Apr. 7, 2012, 08:53 AM
Guess who gets to go and see Black Caviar run on April 28th???? Oh wait that would be me! :D

Peter Moody has confirmed that she will be coming to Adelaide for 2 group 1 races. First being on the 28th and the next on May 12th.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-coming-to-adelaide/story-fn6mt12y-1226320441228

Can't wait! Also sounds like the farm will have a couple other runners on that day as well which is what we were originally going to see but this is a huge bonus!

P.

ThisTooShallPass
Apr. 8, 2012, 11:27 PM
Take pictures & post here!

elsbet
Apr. 9, 2012, 02:00 PM
Yes, PLEASE take pictures and post them here for those of us not so lucky as you!!!!!

CVPeg
Apr. 9, 2012, 05:24 PM
Polydor, how exciting! Have a wonderful time! Yes, pictures! And good luck to the farm!

Glimmerglass
Apr. 13, 2012, 05:00 PM
A cited elsewhere - Frankel was slightly injured in a work and it has resulted in the connections nixing his first planned race. Will it derail any chance of a Black Caviar match up at Royal Ascot? Maybe.

BBC 4-13-12 "Frankel 'very unlikely' to run at Newbury after sustaining leg injury" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/17709357)


Grimthorpe told At The Races: "It'd be too early to rule him out of Ascot [but] Newbury would be very unlikely."

Glimmerglass
Apr. 18, 2012, 10:27 AM
Her plans have been presented: two races in Oz then off to Royal Ascot (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/australia-saturday-week-target-for-black-caviar/1017057/):


Black Caviar would run in the A$400,000 Group 1 Sportingbet Classic over 6f at Morphettville in Adelaide. [Which is for fillies and mares only and under weight-for-age conditions.]

She would then go to the A$500,000 Goodwood, also run at Morphettville two weeks later on May 12, after which she will go to England for the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot on June 23.

"Adelaide is the right option - she's got two short trips on the truck to get there and she'll come straight home after the first one.

"It gives her a three-week window before she heads overseas. It'll be late May, early June, we just want to keep her here as longas possible."

A win in the Sportingbet Classic would take Black Caviar one win beyond the Australasian record for consecutive metropolitan wins she currently shares with Gloaming and Desert Gold.

Per another report on her weight: Tipping the scales at 600kg and, at that mark, one of the heaviest thoroughbreds in training, Black Caviar is about 20kg off her optimum racing weight (580kg). 600Kg = 1,323 pounds!

Polydor
Apr. 25, 2012, 08:15 AM
Well slight change of plans :( I won't be getting to the races on saturday but WILL be going on May 12th !! :D

Due to lots of staff coming and going this week and the lack of tickets available we had to divid and conquer! lol

Adelaide is totally 100% sold out of all member pass, public etc all 30-35K tickets! Rumor is that we out sold Caulfield in Melbourne :D Hoping co-workers will take some pics for me / us.

P.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 25, 2012, 09:23 AM
While I assume that TVG (here in the States) will be airing Black Caviar's next race I couldn't find it on the programming guide.

From the Herald Sun - "Black Caviar white-hot favourite to win at Morphetville" (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-white-hot-favourite-to-win-at-morphetville/story-fn67siys-1226337659444)


t seems only bad luck can beat Black Caviar when she races for history as:

SHE tries to maintain her unbeaten record and break the record for most consecutive wins held by Desert Gold and Gloaming since 1921;

SHE is set to become only the second mare to win at least 10 Group 1 races after Sunline (13 majors);

SHE will start from barrier three against only nine rivals with Lone Rock next in betting at $16; and

ALL remaining tickets for a capacity 30,000 crowd at Morphettville were sold yesterday.

Her- and the other international invaders - entry for Royal Ascot was revealed Wed (4-25) (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/black-caviar-cirrus-des-aigles-royal-ascot-caviar-stars-among-overseas-ascot-entries/1021327/latest/)

Glimmerglass
Apr. 25, 2012, 01:48 PM
From a TVG tweet Wed 4-25 (http://twitter.com/#!/tvgresearch/status/194577797337980929)


Black Caviar draws post 3 of 10 for Sportingbet Classic at Morphettville; Post Time - 11:22pm PT, Friday night on TVG!

So for those of us east of the west coast that means set your DVR's now to see the gal for her 20th consecutive victory!

Polydor
Apr. 28, 2012, 01:27 AM
She runs in an hour!!! It is a beautiful day down in Adelaide. Was there briefly early this am to drop off co-workers at the airport. Bosses and co-workers are down there now having a blast and I'm at the farm working :( but will be watching it on tv.

Can't wait!

P.

lolita1
Apr. 28, 2012, 03:42 AM
She won

Polydor
Apr. 28, 2012, 05:13 AM
Oh Yay and that is the way it's done! :D

Black Caviar - Nelly (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-breathtaking-in-20th-career-win-at-morphettville/story-fn67siys-1226341542866)

So wish I had been there to see it. Can't even imagine the atmosphere there.

On a side note, the mares are kicking some serious butt here today! Atlantic Jewel took out the All Ages Stakes ( Group 1- her 2nd and unbeaten in 7 races) Atlantic Jewel (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/atlantic-jewel-to-race-on-in-australia/story-fn67siys-1226341287447).

With More Joyous taking the Queen Elizabeth Stakes. More Joyous (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8458741)

Angel of Mercy won the James H B Carr Stakes in Sydney. I have connections to this filly so super happy to see her doing so well! Angel of Mercy (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8458706)

P.

CVPeg
Apr. 28, 2012, 11:52 AM
Polydor - thanks for the link! I love how she wins - her jockey doesn't even have to ask her - still has a hold on her at the head of the stretch and she does it herself. Not even sure why he's waving the bat at her! :lol:

Would give anything to be in SA and watch her next one. It's so beautiful there. Was lucky enough to take a caravan (RV) to the Flinders Ranges, and they are gorgeous.

Hope you can make it away from the barn next time, but at least you're in the vicinity. Must be awesome to be living in Australia about now, with a mare like Black Caviar, and people who "get it"! :cool:

Glimmerglass
Apr. 30, 2012, 10:45 AM
Video replay: Black Caviar's start/win #20 April 28, 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EacCn0i5Lps) - A$400,000 Group 1 Sportingbet Classic at Morphettville in Adelaide, AU.

Almost too easy! Barely a tap to keep her focused on business and not the 30,000+ with cheering fans 20-persons deep watching her.

Polydor
May. 2, 2012, 06:36 AM
Bosses/co-workers had a great time watching her.

Next up is the Goodwood on May 12th. Currently 30 entered which will be cut down to 20 with 4 emergency.

CVPeg : Yup pretty cool living in a nation that actually gives days off for a race! :P lol Parents roll their eyes when they ask why I have a day off... horse race of course! The daily paper carry the daily racing form too which is nice.

Very cool that you got to the Flinder Ranges since most people ,unless you are a local, get up that way. Love it up that way. You should try and get back down here ... free bed and tour guide! :D

P.

Glimmerglass
May. 8, 2012, 05:00 PM
Down in Oz Patches O'Hoolihan defeated Black Caviar (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-07/patches-ohoolihan-wins-barcaldine-goat-race/3996144?section=qld) - although it's not what you think ;) Patches is a goat and there is indeed a goat named for Black Caviar too - both race. Something I doubt anyone would expect to see in print:


Records have tumbled at Australia's richest goat race meeting in western Queensland.

Locally-trained goat Patches O'Hoolihan took out the feature event this afternoon at the Barcaldine goat races, east of Longreach, in a record time.

He covered the 100 metres in 12.49 seconds, driven by a 10-year-old Barcaldine schoolgirl.

As for the true Black Caviar she is set to run in Saturday's Goodwood at Morphettville. The $500k Goodwood, a 1200m sprint, will be Black Caviar's final appearance before she heads to England for the Group One Diamond Jubilee at Royal Ascot.


The world's highest-rated sprinter, Black Caviar is at $1.04 with TAB Sportsbet to win Adelaide's premier sprint.

Go The Knuckle, who has barrier three, is next in the market at $21.

Black Caviar attracted a crowd of 30,000 when she won the Sportingbet Classic at Morphettville last month. South Australian racing officials are expecting another sell-out crowd on Saturday.

Polydor
May. 9, 2012, 09:28 AM
Can not wait for saturday to get all glamed up for the races! Not sure if the farm has any one racing yet. Hoping the weather will be nice though it is suppose to be cool.

Will be taking my small camera , and not my big fancy one so will hopefully be able to push my way to the rail to see her and grab some pics and will post if I do. Co-workers went for the last one couldn't get within 20 feet of the rail.

P.

Glimmerglass
May. 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
Scant chance to make any money wagering on BC :D trainer John Shirreffs in California is a fan of hers, too (http://www.drf.com/news/australia-black-caviar-who-runs-saturday-goodwood-morphetville-has-admirer-shirreffs).


The $500,000 Goodwood Stakes, which has a post time of 2:20 a.m. Eastern on Saturday, has drawn a field of nine. Black Caviar, who is trained by Peter Moody, will break from post 8 under regular rider Luke Nolen. She was the 1-25 favorite as of Wednesday.

Glimmerglass
May. 10, 2012, 02:19 PM
Details of the 8 horses lining up against BC (http://risa.com.au/FreeFields/Form.aspx?Key=2012May12,SA,Morphettville#Race7)

She is assigned 57-kg which is 125.4lbs It should be an absolute rout - and packed to the rafters with fans - as this will be one of the least accomplished fields she has faced in some time:


Black Caviar will take on a field of non Group One-winning rivals for only the second time in 16 starts in the Goodwood at Morphettville.

The wonder mare has had at least one Group One winner opposed to her in all but one of her past 15 starts.

But the main interest in the great mare on Monday was the news that Australia Post has released a commemorative souvenir stamp pack of Black Caviar in celebration of the world's highest-ranked sprinter winning an Australasian record 20 metropolitan races straight.

That was achieved in the Sportingbet Classic (6 furlongs) at Morphettville on April 27.

The pack features snapshots of each of her 20 victories and details of the races.

Black Caviar is as usual stifling betting as a $1.04 favorite for the Goodwood with TAB Sportsbet as she attempts to take her winning streak to 21 before she heads to England for the Diamond Jubilee Stakes (6 furlongs) at Royal Ascot on June 22.

CVPeg
May. 10, 2012, 05:51 PM
Can not wait for saturday to get all glamed up for the races! Not sure if the farm has any one racing yet. Hoping the weather will be nice though it is suppose to be cool.

Will be taking my small camera , and not my big fancy one so will hopefully be able to push my way to the rail to see her and grab some pics and will post if I do. Co-workers went for the last one couldn't get within 20 feet of the rail.

P.

Have a great time, Polydor!! I was at the wire for the Affirmed/Alydar Travers - only had to stand there for 5 hours to hold my spot. Just don't drink anything! ;)


Scant chance to make any money wagering on BC :D trainer John Shirreffs in California is a fan of hers, too (http://www.drf.com/news/australia-black-caviar-who-runs-saturday-goodwood-morphetville-has-admirer-shirreffs).

Thanks for the articles once again, and noting the time, GG!

lolita1
May. 12, 2012, 03:23 AM
She is now 21 from 21 starts. What a Horse:D

Polydor
May. 12, 2012, 07:05 AM
Insanely awesome day at Adelaide races today!

Don't even know where to start. The day started off with a win for one of my connections. Then because my bosses are super they had gotten us (co-workers) all member passes AND mounting yard passes!! Woot!

Black Caviar was out and about quite a bit in the walking paddock for most of the afternoon prior to her race. I think it was a bit to keep her occupied but also to show her off to the public. She is a gorgeous big girl and so very chilled. Just stood taking everything in.

The atmosphere was electric and 120% behind her all 30K people. I managed to have a great spot to stand and watch. I couldn't decide if I wanted to see the whole race or be down by the rail so ended up in the middle. lol With a great view of the mounting yard and the finish line.

Even in the mounting yard she is so laid back. Didn't perk up till she hit the track and then she strutted her stuff. Awesome race and Luke had a pretty good hold of her though WeregoingtoRock did get within a length of her. ( I won money on him too :D plus I know him) though our other connection didn't do well at all.

Will get pics downloaded and posted soon.

Bring it on England !! She leaves pretty quick for that and I'm crossing fingers and toes it all goes well but with her attitude I think she should travel pretty well. From what I have heard, all of her normal people including vet, chiro, strapper, and even gate loading person are all going with her. Moody is trying to keep everything normal.

Must get to bed now, totally spent now!

P.

CVPeg
May. 12, 2012, 09:50 AM
Wow, Polydor, what a day to remember. You'll be able to say you saw her close up, in the flesh. From her pictures, she looks like an incredible athlete.

Thanks for telling us all about it!

Drvmb1ggl3
May. 12, 2012, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the report Poly! Glad you got to witness her in the flesh.

Here is replay number 21... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJn2VWMtEio

It is so weird to watch this mare race. All the other horses around her are flat out, jockeys flailing away with hands and whips, and she is just cantering along with Luke Nolen completely motionless on her back. It's almost like watching a cartoon.

elsbet
May. 14, 2012, 07:59 AM
What a truly amazing horse......

Glimmerglass
May. 14, 2012, 03:39 PM
Despite her completely dispatching rivals in Australia with amazing ease the British bookies are giving great odds on next month's trip to England for Ascot. Herald Sun May 15th "Black Caviar odds very tasty" (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-odds-very-tasty/story-fn67siys-1226355270498)


Seemingly, British betting shops are taking unbelievable liberties with Black Caviar in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot on Saturday, June 23.

The bookies are offering as much as $1.67 on Black Caviar winning - she was $1.73 before her 21st successive victory in Saturday's Goodwood at Morphettville.

Black Caviar has not been at such backable odds since she won the Patinack Farm Classic at $1.90 at Flemington in November 2010. For her past eight starts, she has been under $1.10.

By the way - just how fast is she? Wicked fast. Perhaps the fastest horse out there bar none. UK: Racing Post - Reliability factor makes Black Caviar a one-off (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/world-class-reliability-factor-makes-caviar-a-one-off-may-14/1033019/international/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews)


Most horses average about 37mph in a race, but she has clocked a sustained 45mph, breaking 10 seconds for 200m. She's fast alright and that's not her only asset.

In her last 15 starts she has broken the record for number of consecutive 129+ RPRs (ten), the total number of 130+ RPRs (seven) and consecutive performances rated 125+ (15 and counting).

This is elite level performing at its most extreme. When she can guarantee to drum out a 125+ figure no matter who or where she's racing, and with the benefit of a mare's allowance, there isn't anything that can get close.

[The Ascot rivals] They won't be any stronger. Next best in the Diamond Jubilee on adjusted RPRs is the French filly Moonlight Cloud (122). If everything ran to their best, Black Caviar should win by just over three lengths.

On Saturday she was devastating, never hitting top gear and winning eased down with an RPR of 128+. She was a 1-20 shot and the rivals were a relatively weak bunch, although the runner-up We're Gonna Rock (115) seems to be going the right way and she cantered all over him.

Glimmerglass
May. 16, 2012, 12:36 PM
The potential for a Frankel vs. Black Caviar match up (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/12/05/15/RACING_Lockinge_Nightlead.html&BID=465) appears to be limited:


Sir Henry Cecil is all for a meeting between racing's two unbeaten superstars Frankel and Black Caviar, but concedes it could only happen in the Qipco Sussex Stakes at Goodwood. [1st August 2012]

"I'd love them to meet and it would be good for racing and racing needs champions. The only race they could meet would be in the Sussex Stakes," said Cecil.

Black Caviar's trainer Peter Moody suggested in a recent interview he would not be keen to step the sprinter up to a mile on an undulating track, despite Qipco's offer to increase the Sussex prize fund to £1million. (http://www.goodwood.co.uk/horse-racing/news/articles/qipco-sussex-stakes-bonus.aspx)

WhiteCamry
May. 16, 2012, 02:55 PM
By the way - just how fast is she? Wicked fast. Perhaps the fastest horse out there bar none. UK: Racing Post - Reliability factor makes Black Caviar a one-off (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/world-class-reliability-factor-makes-caviar-a-one-off-may-14/1033019/international/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews)


Most horses average about 37mph in a race, but she has clocked a sustained 45mph, breaking 10 seconds for 200m. She's fast alright and that's not her only asset.

Fast, indeed.:eek: Quarterhorses run 48mph over distances not much longer.

oneyequine
May. 17, 2012, 10:06 PM
BC's top fastest top end speed has never been tested as the jockey takes a hold and lets her cruise behind the leaders. Regardless, perhaps it would be further accurate to state that she has the fastest high end *sustained speed.

Glimmerglass
May. 24, 2012, 02:56 PM
The news seems to vacillate week to week on the odds of a head to head meeting ....

Brisbane Times May 22, 2012: "Frankel showdown unlikely, says Caviar owner" (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/horseracing/frankel-showdown-unlikely-says-caviar-owner-20120522-1z3b4.html)


''It's nice to think about and dream about but I don't think it will ever happen,'' [Neil Werrett, her managing owner] told the Herald yesterday. ''It looks as though Frankel will go to the mile on the Tuesday [Queen Anne Stakes on June 19] and then go 10 furlongs [2000m] after that so I don't see him going back in distance and I don't think we'll be going to a mile at that stage.

''Unfortunately it's probably not an option for now. That's life. I don't think the dynamics are going to work this year, anyway.''

[Her next start: 1200m Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot on June 23]

''She's good. She's had 10 days off, just doing slow work,'' Werrett said. ''She'll start fast work at the end of the week and she'll have a decent hitout on the Saturday [June 2] and then get on a plane four days later. It's not far off now and the excitement is building.''

No expense is being spared for the unbeaten five-year old, who is travelling with an entourage of carers to ensure she arrives in peak health.

''Peter's doing everything he can and we're sending three people on the plane with her, including a vet, to make sure that she travels well,'' Werrett said. ''You can't ever be sure but we'll do everything we can to protect her. If she gets over there and she's not well then we simply won't race her. It'd be the biggest shame of all time but the horse's health is our priority.

''However, she's a pretty relaxed horse these days and travelling doesn't seem to bother her one bit. She's content around the yard so I think she'll be fine.''

CVPeg
Jun. 5, 2012, 12:46 PM
She's leaving tomorrow for Britain, wearing a lycra compression suit!

What an impressive looking mare. Love her kind eye, and the width of her forehead. And she looks massive in her travelin' outfit! :cool:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150897487457670&set=a.385429772669.169560.63355332669&type=1&theater

Glimmerglass
Jun. 5, 2012, 02:22 PM
She's leaving tomorrow for Britain, wearing a lycra compression suit!

What an impressive looking mare. Love her kind eye, and the width of her forehead. And she looks massive in her travelin' outfit! :cool:

CVPeg - Whoa Nelly! (Which is her nickname in the stable yard and as you can see is on the suit too!) That's quite the muscle showing and enhancing outfit and further more like the nasal strip said to come with claims of helping the horse ;)

Details from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/18330460)


Trainer Peter Moody said the suit was recommended by Australia's Olympic 110m hurdle gold medal hope Sally Pearson.

"I thought if it's good enough for Sally Pearson, it's good enough for Black Caviar," Moody said.

Moody got the idea for the wetsuit-style aid from a rival trainer John McNair, who used it on his top sprinter Hay List.

"It's a compression suit that helps generate blood flow. We all get a bit weary when we are travelling, and she is going to be no different," said Moody, who is based at Caulfield, near Melbourne, in Victoria.

"When we are travelling we have got the option of getting up and going for a walk. She's going to be standing in her horse box for 30-odd hours, so she's not going to have that opportunity to exercise.

"Anything that can aid her in the travel we are throwing at her. On taking advice from a vet and a chiropractor and knowing that Black Caviar has always been susceptible to soft tissue injuries, muscle tears and the like, we thought it might aid her.

"We've had it on her here at home for a couple of weeks and she's got well and truly used to it."

The suits, made of a revolutionary moisture-management fabric and fitted with zippers, are manufactured by Sydney firm Hidez. The compression is said to help circulation and supply more oxygen to muscles.

Image of Hay List in the suit which sparked the idea to copy (http://watchingracehorses.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Compression-suit.jpg) ... although I think her suit is better (http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/06/05/1226385/269002-black-caviar.jpg) :D

Glimmerglass
Jun. 7, 2012, 10:56 AM
Not quite in England yet (June 7th) but she has made 2 of the three legs of her journey from Oz to London (http://www.news.com.au/news/flying-black-caviar-will-not-be-grounded/story-fndpqu3p-1226387075351):


It was a case of two down, one to go for Black Caviar last night, with the nine-hour Melbourne to Singapore trip and 6 1/2-hour Singapore to Sharjah leg uneventful, according to trainer Peter Moody, who will join the raiding party next week.

"Nelly has arrived in Sharjah, still travelling well," was Moody's "in running" text update as Black Caviar arrived in Sharjah, in the United Arab Emirates, at 5pm.

Black Caviar was hoisted into the hold of a Singapore Airlines cargo flight at 11.17pm on Wednesday.

Bales of lucerne, water and sedatives were loaded and Moody's stable vet, foreman and track rider were on the flight.

Tweets from Peter Moody here:

https://twitter.com/#!/moodyracing

Glimmerglass
Jun. 11, 2012, 11:57 AM
Adelaide Now June 10, 2012: "Black Caviar did not fly cattle class" (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-did-not-fly-cattle-class/story-fn67lu29-1226390579898)


So well did Black Caviar take her 30-hour stable-to-stable trip that she dropped only nine kilograms from her hulking 580kg frame.

The unbeaten mare, who is scheduled to run in the 1200m Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot on Saturday week, was feeling so full of herself yesterday that a planned hand walk was upgraded to a long trot.

"That's great news," said Moody, who leaves on Wednesday for Newmarket.

"Tony Haydon (stable foreman) and Peter Angus (veterinarian) are both thrilled with how she has travelled, and her food and water intake since she got there has been terrific.

"Tony said he couldn't believe how well she got off the plane in Heathrow and he said the last couple of hours by float to Newmarket took more out of her.

"She's been walking around the stable as if she's been there all her life."

Moody said Black Caviar had coped with the trip so well she had not needed any intravenous fluids.

Moody said the mare had put her head straight in her feed bin when she arrived in her Newmarket box.


The Guardian June 10, 2012: "Frankel, Camelot and Black Caviar make this a summer to celebrate" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/jun/10/frankel-camelot-black-caviar?newsfeed=true)


When I'll Have Another was scratched from the Belmont Stakes – and then immediately retired – on Friday, just 24 hours before his attempt to become the 12th horse to win the US Triple Crown, it was a reminder that nothing in racing can ever be taken for granted.

From a British, and European, perspective, the sudden end to I'll Have Another's racing career is a timely lesson in the folly of burdening four fragile thoroughbred legs with such a burden of hope and expectation.

...

US racing lost its only star at the weekend. That Europe has three that are sound, healthy and due to spend some or all of their time racing in Britain this summer is a cause for celebration, and will remain a sign of the relative health of our racing industry, no matter how the season unfolds.

2tempe
Jun. 11, 2012, 05:09 PM
She's leaving tomorrow for Britain, wearing a lycra compression suit!

What an impressive looking mare. Love her kind eye, and the width of her forehead. And she looks massive in her travelin' outfit! :cool:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150897487457670&set=a.385429772669.169560.63355332669&type=1&theater

OMG she looks huge:eek: - I read somewhere that she is a big girl- they mentioned her weight; anyone know how tall she is?

Watched the video. Looked like mare and jockey were just going along, la la la, just another leg stretching. :cool:

Glimmerglass
Jun. 11, 2012, 05:31 PM
anyone know how tall she is?

From her official fansite: 16.2hh (http://www.blackcaviar.net.au/black-spots-%E2%80%93-little-known-facts-about-black-caviar)

2tempe
Jun. 11, 2012, 05:36 PM
OK, not so huge - the person holding her must be short; or maybe its the camera angle.

Glimmerglass
Jun. 11, 2012, 06:13 PM
OK, not so huge - the person holding her must be short; or maybe its the camera angle.

Agreed that she looks - next to that handler - to be 18hands ... perhaps its just the suit :D (http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/06/05/1226385/269002-black-caviar.jpg)

Video: Her vet, Peter Angus, interviewed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtmL4QkSjEE&feature=relmfu) - see at 1-min mark her walking into Newmarket home (her compression suit since removed)

CVPeg
Jun. 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
Check out "Black Cabbie-Ar" in London. :lol::cool:

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/people/black-cabbie-ar-london-cabbie-paints-his-cab-in-black-caviar-s-colors/

Glimmerglass
Jun. 19, 2012, 12:24 PM
Check out "Black Cabbie-Ar" in London. :lol::cool:

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/people/black-cabbie-ar-london-cabbie-paints-his-cab-in-black-caviar-s-colors/

Yep - very cool!

Also the Herald Sun has a video of her work (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/london-cabbie-paints-taxi-black-caviar-pink-and-black-to-celebrate-australias-super-horse/story-e6frf7jo-1226400764021) plus a bigger picture of that classic black taxi now salmon pink and black spots. Evidently its quite a hit there in London :D

After the sensational Frankel effort on opening day of Royal Ascot the "Wonder From Down Under" will have a lot of pressure to deliver this Saturday.

Polydor
Jun. 20, 2012, 05:14 AM
The ABC "An Australian Story" aired this story about her on monday night. I believe this is the second story they have done on her but haven't looked for the first ( aired a few months ago perhaps after her 18th win) yet.

Here is the recent story. Was very interesting with talking to her breeder and how he came to own her dam, where she grew up, her siblings (and half siblings) and some about her in England.

http://www.abc.net.au/austory/specials/tosetbeforeaqueen/default.htm

Enjoy!

Will be staying up super late saturday to watch her!

P.

solstince
Jun. 20, 2012, 07:22 PM
I was considering going to see her race on Saturday (I live in London)

Does anyone know if you can just show up for a race meet like this- like how tickets work? I haven't ever been to any UK racetracks and I'm not sure if its like a TC type thing where it sells out way ahead of time, or not...

Equibrit
Jun. 20, 2012, 07:50 PM
The doubts are creeping in after Ortensia got an a-s kicking !
http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-sports/horse-racing/the-black-caviar-doubters-emerge-in-numbers-just-two-days-from-her-debut-on-racings-world-stage/story-e6frf41l-1226403753172

Glimmerglass
Jun. 21, 2012, 04:42 PM
I was considering going to see her race on Saturday (I live in London)

Does anyone know if you can just show up for a race meet like this- like how tickets work? I haven't ever been to any UK racetracks and I'm not sure if its like a TC type thing where it sells out way ahead of time, or not...

I was under the impression the event was sold out with 80,000+ strong and the Aussie contingent likely a highly vocal 10%+ of that audience. Is there an equivalent type of service like Craig's list in London? My guess is that some folks planned to go but won't be able to but would resell their tix.

During TVG's Royal Ascot coverage here in the States they made the remark that Black Caviar at Newmarket has been getting in some swim training as of late (A pic of her back in Oz doing the same (http://www.moodyracing.com.au/pre-training.php) and the remark from observers were that she's best swimmer they've seen at the English facility :D But of course!

Her twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/#!/blackcaviar2006

Prince Charles was given at Ascot (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-gets-royal-nod/story-fn67siys-1226403455274?sv=9fe8ae7bc733c79f10c437de6fcb1361) a tie bearing her racing colors.


The unbeaten "Wonder from Down Under", as she has been dubbed by the English press, has attracted the interest of Prince Charles and his wife Camilla.

They asked to meet members of the Black Caviar owners' syndicate on Tuesday, the first day of Royal Ascot race week. Prince Charles was presented with one of "Nelly's" salmon and polka dot ties.

Part owner Jill Taylor said the invitation to meet the royal couple in the parade ring after the Prince had presented the trophy for the St James's Palace Stakes arrived on Monday evening and took the Black Caviar team by surprise.

"We selected the four men (Colin Madden, Gary Wilkie, Neil Werrett and David Taylor) and Pam Hawkes and the rest of us went to the mounting yard to watch," Mrs Taylor said.

"When the introductions were done they wanted to speak to all of us.

"They were very personable and very warm and chatted freely. They knew a lot about Black Caviar and wished us luck for the race."

Glimmerglass
Jun. 21, 2012, 05:03 PM
Video feature, At The Races, with Royal Ascot interviewing Peter Moody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNegDe7Ej7A&list=UUUiL8HPhvqMY5zpYLQDiscw&index=9)

Image (Getty): Black Caviar ridden by Paddy Bell on the Al Bahathri, synthetic training track, at Newmarket (http://sports.yahoo.com/rah/photo?slug=0ee1765639fabd0b3b059f592db2f12b-getty-146309436)

Another photo (Getty) of Black Caviar in 'the suit', different angle (http://sports.yahoo.com/rah/photo?slug=0ee1765639fabd0b3b059f592db2f12b-getty-146309436#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo% 2Cgetty%3A20050301%3Arah%2Cphoto%2C2fceab3eaf46595 6fae225debd706285-getty-146309564%3A1)

Glimmerglass
Jun. 22, 2012, 10:31 AM
Nellie gets heightened security!

June 21, 2012 "Black Caviar under 24-hour guard" (http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/black-caviar-royal-ascot-security-breach-24-hour-guard-062112)


Two stablehands breached security in the stables of champion Australian racehorse Black Caviar in England, forcing a 24-hour guard and extra measures to be put in place ahead of her race debut at Royal Ascot on Saturday.

The men tried to take pictures of themselves with the world's best sprinter after entering her stable at Abington Place, near Newmarket racecourse, in England.

Tony Haydon, Moody's stable foreman who traveled from Australia with Black Caviar, said Thursday night every precaution was put in place to ensure the mare's safety. After the initial security breach they decided to "take no chances with stable security."

Lord Helpus
Jun. 22, 2012, 05:14 PM
What time (East Coast) does Black Caviar run at Royal Ascot tomorrow (Sat)?

TIA

Equibrit
Jun. 22, 2012, 05:57 PM
See post #26 for how to watch live; http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=357664&page=2

Saturday, 23 June = Local Time (-5 for EST)

14:30 Chesham Stakes seven furlongs

15:05 Hardwicke Stakes mile-and-a-half

15:45 Diamond Jubilee Stakes six furlongs

16:25 Wokingham Stakes six furlongs

17:00 Duke of Edinburgh Stakes mile-and-a-half

1735 Queen Alexandra Stakes two miles, six furlongs

Glimmerglass
Jun. 22, 2012, 06:04 PM
What time (East Coast) does Black Caviar run at Royal Ascot tomorrow (Sat)?

The Diamond Jubilee Stakes - Race 3 - off at approx 10:45pm Eastern

Look for George Strawbridge Jr's Aiken to take the 2nd race (Grade 2) Harwicke Stakes.

(pdf) The pp's for Saturday's races (https://www.tvg.com/forms/Ascot062312.pdf)

Look for another of George's horses, Moonlight Cloud, breaking next to BC to be her biggest threat.

K~2
Jun. 23, 2012, 10:50 AM
What a terrible ride!

solstince
Jun. 23, 2012, 10:53 AM
What a terrible ride!


Did he mistake the winning line? I'm not joking, it actually seemed like he stopped riding a few strides short of the line...

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 23, 2012, 10:58 AM
You fly 10,000 miles around the world, your jockey makes a ROYAL cock-up, and you still manage to win.
Yeah, she's some mare.

She just granted an audience to Queen Liz in the winner's enclosure. I m sure we'll see plenty of pictures of that moment.

Polydor
Jun. 23, 2012, 11:03 AM
Looks like he got confused on where the line was. Surprised he wouldn't do a practice ride on another horse.

Love that the Queen got to meet her!

But a win is a win!

Just watching the interviews now, class act from both Luke and Peter!

We are proud of you Nelly!

P.

ps. Bed for me since it's after midnight here!

MintHillFarm
Jun. 23, 2012, 11:08 AM
Sure looks like Nolan was unclear where the wire was...
What an amazing horse to gear back up and go on for him.

Drvmb1ggl3
Jun. 23, 2012, 11:14 AM
Sure looks like Nolan was unclear where the wire was...
What an amazing horse to gear back up and go on for him.

In all her races in Aus, he stops riding before the line and she keeps on going in cruise control. You can't do that at Ascot because of the uphill finish, you take your foot of the gas and the horse decelerates. The way she found a smidgen more when he realised his mistake in those last three strides, man did she ever bail him out.

Mali
Jun. 23, 2012, 11:19 AM
I love the video footage of Federation Square in Melbourne...reminds me of New Years in Times Square in the US. If only horse racing here was a celebrated as "over there" :yes: What fun!

Lord Helpus
Jun. 23, 2012, 11:59 AM
BC definitely looked off in her right front leg as she was jogging back :( If she was hurting during the race, I am more impressed.

I hope it is something small and she will be fine in a couple of days.

frugalannie
Jun. 23, 2012, 12:07 PM
Thanks for the news, CoTHers! Would some kind person help this old fogey by putting up a link? I'd love to see the race.

harvestmoon
Jun. 23, 2012, 12:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSOqlEs6qo&feature=youtu.be

frugalannie
Jun. 23, 2012, 12:38 PM
Thank you, Harvest Moon!

I hope the mare cooled out well. She's a game one.

moosie
Jun. 23, 2012, 04:59 PM
even if he hadnt momentarily stopped riding she wouldnt have won easily - maybe half a length at most. it was a bit of an anticlimax after all the hype. it could be that the Australians underestimated the strength of the European sprinters,9(coupled with the soft going and tough 6f) she looked fantastic before the race - tbh I thought she didnt look at all sound when trotting past the stands afterwards but assumed I was imagining it:confused:
horses for courses and all that - yes she won and noone can take that away but the connections didnt look exactly overjoyed afterwards -think they were anticipating a massacre of the opposition;)

Slewdledo
Jun. 23, 2012, 06:33 PM
That's a race people will still be talking about a hundred years from now. We should all feel fortunate to have seen it!

vineyridge
Jun. 23, 2012, 07:43 PM
Saw a comment that BC had come out of the race injured. She's shipping back to Australia immediately and has probably run her last race.

dani0303
Jun. 23, 2012, 08:42 PM
I hope she's not injured/retiring, but if she is she had an exceptional career and I'm sure we've all enjoyed watching her run

harvestmoon
Jun. 23, 2012, 09:17 PM
Thank you, Harvest Moon!

I hope the mare cooled out well. She's a game one.

You're welcome. :)

Here's another extended version with more from after the race/winner's circle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5464q326fY&feature=related

CVPeg
Jun. 23, 2012, 10:03 PM
BC definitely looked off in her right front leg as she was jogging back :( If she was hurting during the race, I am more impressed.

I hope it is something small and she will be fine in a couple of days.

I was wondering the same thing, but hoped it was an odd camera angle. :(

tucktaway
Jun. 23, 2012, 10:19 PM
I thought she looked off too.
I wonder that he didn't misjudge or misride at all, but felt her bottom out a bit and let her finish as she could?!

vineyridge
Jun. 23, 2012, 10:55 PM
story from the UK
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/royal-ascot-2012-black-caviar-908051

oneyequine
Jun. 24, 2012, 03:28 AM
Australian sprinters have an outstanding record in these ascot races and she is actually lengths better than all of Australia's previous winners over the last 10 years or so. Certainly well below her best but still had enough speed in hand to win.

She has an off-set knee and has has been prone to soreness throughout her career. I think she comes back for another prep but as a rising 6yo+ may lose her far superior top-end speed and brilliance.

Glimmerglass
Jun. 24, 2012, 07:30 AM
Sunday June 24th:The Telegraph: "Black Caviar injured after her narrow win at Royal Ascot though owner insists she will not be retired" (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/9352167/Black-Caviar-injured-after-her-narrow-win-at-Royal-Ascot-though-owner-insists-she-will-not-be-retired.html)




Moody had the mare thoroughly examined last night and again this morning and reported that no career-ending injuries were found.

"She is very tender up in her hind quarters but it is restricted to soft tissue damage," the trainer said. " We gave her precautionary X-rays and had her scanned and the vets said everything looked ok on that front, but the chiropractor said that she is quite sore and tender behind.

"They are all injuries she has sustained before, so it is not unusual, She has torn her quad muscle before and it will not be the finish of her. She is very flat this morning and will now have a couple of weeks' rest. It is the tightest I have seen her after a race, though she has never travelled this far before."

Moody said Black Caviar would go into quarantine this morning and will be reassessed when she gets home in four weeks' time.

Glimmerglass
Jun. 24, 2012, 02:47 PM
Worth noting is that despite her being in quarantine she will get help:

Tweet from an Aussie commentator (https://twitter.com/AndrewBensley/status/216812891804938240)


Black Caviar will enter quarantine in 20 minutes where she can be treated for muscle tears. She does 14 days at quarantine in UK then flies home.

Photo: BC Sunday morning over her stall - she cleaned up her tub (https://twitter.com/JaneChappleHyam/status/216805051237273600/photo/1/large)

Alas her connections do say she likely ran in pain during the race. A determined tough mare, given a poor ride, and in pain yet victorious - remarkable.

Perhaps the best photo of all HRH The Queen meeting Black Caviar (https://twitter.com/MoodyRacing/status/216574809038000128/photo/1/large)

WhiteCamry
Jun. 25, 2012, 01:30 PM
I love the video footage of Federation Square in Melbourne...reminds me of New Years in Times Square in the US. If only horse racing here was a celebrated as "over there" :yes: What fun!
Once upon a time 'twas. Here's a clip of clip of Dr. Fager in the '67 Gotham (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8frxLao1bM). Check out that parking lot behind the far turn. :eek: And this for a Kentucky Derby subprep! I've been to two Wood Memorials in the last five years and in neither case was the parking lot half so full! :(

CVPeg
Jun. 25, 2012, 01:58 PM
Alas her connections do say she likely ran in pain during the race. A determined tough mare, given a poor ride, and in pain yet victorious - remarkable.


Absolutely. Wasn't home when she ran, so had to replay it - but fortunately that meant fast forwarding through most of John McCririck's nonsense.

From The Australian today:

"Nolen's decision to allow the mare to relax only became a point of discussion because the horse was sore. Given the chance for relief from the pain in her back, Black Caviar eased quicker than she ever has under Nolen. But Nolen still got her to the line first. If it was not his finest ride, it was Nolen's finest hour. He immediately acknowledged he had jeopardised Black Caviar's winning record and took full responsibility. That is an uncommon human trait."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/opinion/luke-nolens-finest-hour-was-sparing-black-caviar-the-whip/story-e6frg7uo-1226408287087

Glimmerglass
Jun. 25, 2012, 03:06 PM
From The Australian today:

"...If it was not his finest ride, it was Nolen's finest hour. He immediately acknowledged he had jeopardised Black Caviar's winning record and took full responsibility. That is an uncommon human trait."

From what I watched initially with interviews Nolen wasn't willing to suggest he did anything wrong whatsoever. That changed more so when he saw the replay and the focus was on what was he thinking.

Racing Post (UK): "The blunder from Down Under! Black Caviar wins despite jockey error" (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/royal-ascot-black-caviar-wins-jubilee-despite-jockey-error/1059419/top/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews)


"I probably underestimated the testing track of Ascot," he said. "It is quite unfortunate because it is going to over-shadow what was a good win. I under estimated the straight six here. It was pilot error but I got away with it."

Glimmerglass
Jun. 25, 2012, 03:59 PM
Nelly's connections suggest a particular November race goal target. DRF June 25, 2012 "Black Caviar suffers muscle injuries, still plans fall campaign" (http://www.drf.com/news/black-caviar-suffers-muscle-injuries-still-plans-fall-campaign) (abridged)


Black Caviar’s connections now contemplating another campaign this fall, which is spring on Southern Hemisphere time.

Nuclear scans performed on Black Caviar following her narrow victory Saturday revealed muscular injuries in a few locations, but the most serious was a tear to her quadriceps.

Black Caviar, a huge muscle-bound mare, has suffered muscle injuries in the past. The most prominent such incident occurred in September 2009, when she tore muscles breaking awkwardly from the starting gate in the Rory’s Jester Stakes. Until Saturday, the three-quarter-length victory Black Caviar had recorded in the Royal Jester had been the smallest margin of victory in her career.

While Black Caviar’s reputation took a hit in some quarters because of her performance Saturday, there is little doubt she ran far below her best form. Greg Carpenter, the official handicapper for Racing Victoria in Australia and a member of the World Thoroughbred Rankings panel, estimated Black Caviar ran 15 points below her rating of 130 in the Diamond Jubilee.

Moody seemed pleased to get a specific diagnosis of Black Caviar’s injury and suggested there should be little problem getting her back into racing condition after a period of rest. Moody mentioned the Patinack Farm Classic in November, a race Black Caviar has won the last two seasons, as a possible goal. A December trip to the prestigious Hong Kong International Sprint also is being contemplated.

Mara
Jun. 25, 2012, 04:31 PM
Nelly's connections suggest a particular November race goal target. DRF June 25, 2012 "Black Caviar suffers muscle injuries, still plans fall campaign" (http://www.drf.com/news/black-caviar-suffers-muscle-injuries-still-plans-fall-campaign) (abridged)

It does not sound as if anyone in Nelly's camp has the faintest clue what they are going to decide. It seems to change on the hour.

Polydor
Jun. 25, 2012, 06:23 PM
It does not sound as if anyone in Nelly's camp has the faintest clue what they are going to decide. It seems to change on the hour.

Probably not helped when she is owned by a fairly large syndicate of people.

P.

Glimmerglass
Jul. 30, 2012, 11:12 AM
Up next? Still to be determined for Nelly although Peter Moody tweeted 7/30/12 that she won't be at the Melbourne spring carnival. (http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=193421)


Black Caviar has won the same three races at the carnival for the past two years - the Schillaci Stakes (Caulfield), the Schweppes Stakes (Moonee Valley) and the Patinack Farm Classic (Flemington) - but Moody said she requires an extended break to fully recover from a busy year on the track.

Speaking to the Herald Sun, Moody added: "She's just needed time to get over her trip to England. She's had a really busy time in the past year or so and just needs a break to get over it.

"She's fine in herself and she's recovered from her injuries, but it would be asking a lot of her to have only a couple of weeks off and then be ready for the spring."

Black Caviar will also miss the Hong Kong International Sprint in December when she would have been chasing a $1 million bonus in the Global Sprint Challenge.

Glimmerglass
Aug. 8, 2012, 12:34 PM
One recent update - Racing Post August 5, 2012: "Moody dreaming of farewell tour for Caviar" (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/moody-hoping-to-give-black-caviar-dream-farewell-tour/1087368/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews)




Moody, speaking to the Herald Sun, said: "It's a $50 million question on whether she'll even race again, and without telling a lie, I've got absolutely no idea."

"My dream is to have a grand final tour of Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane.

"I would love something like that. If I can see it in her we'll do it. If she's not right, she has run her last race, as is the way I've approached her last five or six runs.

"Right now my recommendation will be she won't go to stud this year and we'll put it off until next year.

"I'll give her a preparation until around Christmas and if I think she's going well enough we'll see her at the races about February.

"If she's not she'll sit in the paddock until the 2013 breeding season."

Glimmerglass
Sep. 27, 2012, 04:28 PM
Will be back racing in 2013!

Racing Victoria Sep 27, 2012: "Black Caviar set to race again" (http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/news/rvl/n_Black_Caviar_set_to_race_again.aspx)


Black Caviar will be given the chance to add to her unprecedented race record in 2013.

The champion mare's trainer Peter Moody this afternoon confirmed that, in consultation with the owners, a decision had been made to embark on another racing preparation with the six-year-old daughter of Bel Esprit.

“We're going to give her a spell now and she will be geared towards and autumn preparation,” Moody said.

“That's the extent of it at this stage, no races have even been thought of or discussed as potential targets.”

Black Caviar has spent this week at Moody's Caulfield stable after undertaking three weeks of pre-training.

She has not raced since stretching her unbeaten record to 22 with an unforgettable win in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot in the UK, when she scored a narrow win despite suffering multiple muscle strains in the run.

Polydor
Sep. 27, 2012, 06:13 PM
Just saw that on tv and Glimmer beat me to it!

Also just saw that there is a book coming out about her. Haven't had a chance to order it yet. I do have the stamps, pics of her at the finish line in the first 20 wins.

The book: http://www.booktopia.com.au/black-caviar-gerard-whateley/prod9780733331367.html

P.

CVPeg
Oct. 9, 2012, 04:55 PM
HRTV is doing Black Caviar's story - Part 1 on October 26th!

http://www.hrtv.com/videos/black-caviar-australian-story-coming-soon/

Glimmerglass
Oct. 15, 2012, 10:35 AM
Success in the family ...

Racing Post, Oct 13, 2012: "Black Caviar brother gets his first Group 1 win" (http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/bloodstock/black-caviar-brother-gets-his-first-group-1-win/1132602/top/)


BLACK CAVIAR'S younger half-brother All Too Hard gained a first Group 1 win in Australia on Saturday, with a surprise defeat of hot favourite Pierro in the Caulfield Guineas.

Last year's A$1,025,000 Inglis Easter Yearling Sale topper, who is from the first crop of Casino Prince, won two Group 2 races at two: the Sires' Produce Stakes and the Pago Pago Stakes.

Not the same crew as Black Caviar, ATH is a Michael, Wayne and John Hawkes-trained colt

Video (youtube/Racing Victoria) - Group 1 BECK Caulfield Guineas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6a2mZZitH8)

Glimmerglass
Oct. 29, 2012, 03:44 PM
Australia: Herald Sun Oct 29, 2012: Black Caviar races onto cover of Vogue Australia (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/black-caviar-races-onto-cover-of-vogue-australia/story-e6frf96x-1226504824905)


Dazzling beauty and horse racing sensation Black Caviar will grace the cover of VOGUE Australia's December issue.

It's the first time in the magazine's 53-year history that a horse will appear on the cover.

Image: cover with Black Caviar and model Ms. Julia Nobis (http://resources.news.com.au/files/2012/10/27/1226504/305666-vogue-cover.jpg)

The American market edition of Vogue featured - not on the cover - Rachel Alexandra in their August 2009 issue.

Equibrit
Oct. 29, 2012, 04:23 PM
What's with the funky throat latch ?

PeteyPie
Oct. 30, 2012, 07:27 PM
What's with the funky throat latch ?

All I can say, is "Choke."

Glimmerglass
Jan. 22, 2013, 01:48 PM
She's resurfaced and nearing her debut for 2013 (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/black-caviar-makes-surprise-public-appearance/1190826/top/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews): Racing Post JAN 22 "Black Caviar makes surprise appearance"


The unbeaten mare contested a jump-out, her first piece of serious racetrack competition since her famous Royal Ascot victory in June.

Sitting deep from the start of the 800m contest, Black Caviar domimated the jump-out from the home turn as she put a space between herself and her rivals.

"It was just a soft half-mile jump-out and I'm very happy with her," trainer Peter Moody told AAP.

"It was a great opportunity to have a little trip away on a great surface."

The Sandown excursion confirmed Black Caviar is making excellent progress as she prepares for an exhibition gallop between races on her home track at Caulfield on February 2.

Black Caviar is scheduled to make her racing return in the $500,000 Group 1 Lightning Stakes at Flemington on February 16.

"That's the race we've always suggested will be the race she kicks off in," Moody said.

A farewell campaign for the $6.8 million earner is expected to take in races in Sydney and Brisbane.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 13, 2013, 12:02 PM
Black Caviar will face a field of seven in her 2013 debut - two of which are from her own yard. She's is aiming for her third successive Lightning Stakes win (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-looks-a-sure-bet-in-the-black-caviar-lightning-stakes/story-fn67r1j3-1226577348970), and her 13th at Group 1 level, when she attempts to extend her unbeaten record against seven rivals on Saturday.

By the way this is one of those unique races as it was renamed in her honor by the Victoria Racing Club ;) So no pressure to win it!

Group 1 $500,000 Black Caviar Lightning Stakes over 1000m.

Flemmington, Race 7, post position 6 - Black Caviar (http://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/form-guide/races?s=races&track=Flemington&meetingdate=20130216&race=7)

Last year 22,000 watched Black Caviar win her second Lightning Stakes but as she hasn't raced in Melbourne since, officials are expecting an even bigger turnout.

WhiteCamry
Feb. 13, 2013, 01:20 PM
Black Caviar will face a field of seven in her 2013 debut - two of which are from her own yard. She's is aiming for her third successive Lightning Stakes win (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-looks-a-sure-bet-in-the-black-caviar-lightning-stakes/story-fn67r1j3-1226577348970), and her 13th at Group 1 level, when she attempts to extend her unbeaten record against seven rivals on Saturday.

By the way this is one of those unique races as it was renamed in her honor by the Victoria Racing Club ;) So no pressure to win it!

Group 1 $500,000 Black Caviar Lightning Stakes over 1000m.

Flemmington, Race 7, post position 6 - Black Caviar (http://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/form-guide/races?s=races&track=Flemington&meetingdate=20130216&race=7)

Last year 22,000 watched Black Caviar win her second Lightning Stakes but as she hasn't raced in Melbourne since, officials are expecting an even bigger turnout.
Any chance of TVG or HRTV picking it up?

jennywho
Feb. 13, 2013, 02:02 PM
Tvg was advertising that they will show it fri night

Glimmerglass
Feb. 13, 2013, 03:26 PM
Oh and she's getting inducted into the Aussie Hall of Fame, too (http://www.drf.com/news/australia-black-caviar-returns-stakes-named-her-honor)

Next week, she is expected to be announced as an inductee to the Australian racing Hall of Fame, the first active racehorse to be so honored since Sunline in 2002.


Tuesday, Black Caviar had her final workout, going about a half-mile, or 800 meters, in 50.80 seconds at Caulfield Racecourse. She was timed in 36.65 for the final 600 meters, or about three furlongs. She has been in serious training for the last six weeks.

“I can’t find a chink in her armor,” Moody told the Australian press earlier this week. “She is back, relaxed, and scorching the turf, which is the whole reason she is running again. I’m really pleased with her.”

Post time in the United States, for her 23rd start is 12:30 a.m. Eastern Saturday morning.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 15, 2013, 08:30 AM
One of the stories that never came out following her 22nd win at Ascot (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/i-thought-she-wasnt-going-to-make-it-i-thought-i-was-going-to-be-coming-home-without-her/story-e6frf7kx-1226579189950):


Four days later, in the solitary confinement of a quarantine yard in Newmarket, she was attacked by a swarm of bees. They left the imposing mare squealing in pain, visibly distressed and badly swollen.

Her closest companion, Tony Haydon, recalls the scene as the cruellest episode suffered by a horse in his care, and the immediate sense of dread it prompted.

"I thought she wasn't going to make it. I thought I was going to be coming home without her."

The emergency call had gone to the vet who, on arrival, shot her full of antihistamines.

"She was in that much pain. It's one of the cruellest things I've ever seen."

Black Caviar settled as antibiotics were administered but it left her in worse shape still. During the course of medication she tucked up to 545kg, the lightest Haydon had ever seen her.

"I said to them 'of all the things we can get bitten by in Australia, we come to bloody England where you've got squirrels and bees and we got stung by the bees'. And they're the biggest bees you'll ever see. I've never seen bees that big."

Glimmerglass
Feb. 15, 2013, 08:36 AM
In advance of tonight's run - in the Central Standard Time zone it'll be 11:30 pm - TVG did this teaser video (2/14) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_vWnaf_a7Q)

Also Racing Victoria did this "Black Caviar Lightning Day Preview" video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWLjyMIxh_0)

Glimmerglass
Feb. 15, 2013, 01:59 PM
In case you're looking to watch the race and cannot choose between TVG or HRTV, please note that TVG will air the race LIVE. Whereas HRTV will show it on a delay ... they cited 12:58 am EST, so about 20+ minute after its occurred and likely uploaded on youtube ;)

CVPeg
Feb. 15, 2013, 09:31 PM
Oh and she's getting inducted into the Aussie Hall of Fame, too (http://www.drf.com/news/australia-black-caviar-returns-stakes-named-her-honor)

Next week, she is expected to be announced as an inductee to the Australian racing Hall of Fame, the first active racehorse to be so honored since Sunline in 2002.



Post time in the United States, for her 23rd start is 12:30 a.m. Eastern Saturday morning.

Thanks for this, and all the additional info, GG. Now, to see if I can wake back up by then!

And wow - the bee story! But not clear, was that 4 days after arriving, or after the race?!? Horrific!

skydy
Feb. 15, 2013, 09:55 PM
Thanks for the heads up! I'll be watching.

grits
Feb. 16, 2013, 12:51 AM
Number 23 in the bag - and a course record, to boot.

http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Black-Caviar-wins-Black-Caviar-Lightning-Stakes-after-6-month-layoff/tabid/317/articleID/287029/Default.aspx

Lynnwood
Feb. 16, 2013, 12:54 AM
Such a great mare.

CVPeg
Feb. 16, 2013, 07:52 AM
Wonderful to watch!

Aspercel
Feb. 16, 2013, 11:27 AM
May as well make my first post here :)

Track record without even trying. Fabulous mare.

CVPeg
Feb. 16, 2013, 03:53 PM
Welcome, Horse in the Grey Flannel Suit! ;)


I was just watching the replay, and the comments beforehand mentioned that Black Caviar takes 24 strides to each furlong, while the average horse takes 30-34 strides per furlong! :yes:

Glimmerglass
Feb. 16, 2013, 03:57 PM
Video replay - win #23 - with post-race comments from Peter Moody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5jU9V6G-HY)

Also for those who want to get caught up ... a bonus

Video replay: all 23 starts and wins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMdTGl2hIdE)

Aspercel
Feb. 16, 2013, 04:08 PM
Thanks :D

It is the name I use for everything on the Internet. Just watched the replay again. Love this mare!

2tempe
Feb. 16, 2013, 11:17 PM
Wow. Lovely race, lovely mare; seems nothing can touch her.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 22, 2013, 10:07 AM
Bloodhorse - Feb 22, 2013: "Black Caviar Inducted Into Australian HOF" (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/76399/black-caviar-inducted-into-australian-hof?&utm_source=DailyNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20130222) - (held Feb. 21st)


[BC] .. joins two-time W.S. Cox Plate (Aus-I) winner and three-time Australian Horse of the Year Sunline as the only other horse in training to be enshrined.

A 13-time group I winner and two-time Australian Horse of the Year trained by Peter Moody, Black Caviar was one of 10 racing greats in the 2013 induction class, joining three other horses, two jockeys, a trainer, and three associates when honored during ceremonies at the Grand Hyatt in Melbourne.

The high point of the evening came when inaugural Hall of Fame member Carbine, who carried a record 66 kilograms (145 pounds) to victory in the 1890 Melbourne Cup, was elevated to Legend status alongside Phar Lap, Makybe Diva, Bart Cummings, Arthur 'Scobie' Breasley, and Tommy Smith.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 18, 2013, 02:35 PM
Race start #24 has come up quicker than expected: (Mar 18, 2013) "will put her unbeaten record on the line in the $400,000 William Reid Stakes (Aus-I) March 22" (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/76927/black-caviar-seeks-record-equaling-win)

If she is successful it will mean 14 Australian Grade 1s which is what Kingston Town did three decades ago.


Kingston Town's record, achieved in the early 1980s, includes an unprecedented three W. S. Cox Plate victories (1980-82). The world record for graded or group I wins on the flat is 16, also accomplished in the early 1980s by two-time North American Horse of the Year John Henry.

Black Caviar's trainer, Peter Moody, was recently hospitalized with blood poisoning but said he is in fine fettle now and looking forward to the 1,200-meter (about six-furlong) William Reid. He will wrap up her final preparations Tuesday.

(Entries/PP) She will face six rivals - she is PP 6 - in the Hacer Group William Reid Stakes; Race 4 (http://www.mvrc.net.au/racing/fullform.aspx?meet_code=846251&race_code=5029569)

I fully expect TVG to air the race live.

elsbet
Mar. 18, 2013, 04:15 PM
Glimmer, if TVG does air it, when will it be on? You know, for those of us who can't remember the time difference between the US and Australia? Shoot, I'll probably just record EVERYTHING again like last time. My husband WILL survive. :)

harvestmoon
Mar. 18, 2013, 04:47 PM
Glimmer, if TVG does air it, when will it be on? You know, for those of us who can't remember the time difference between the US and Australia? Shoot, I'll probably just record EVERYTHING again like last time. My husband WILL survive. :)

It goes off at 9:55 PM in Australia, so probably around 6:55 AM for the East coast.

I think. ;)

Glimmerglass
Mar. 18, 2013, 06:18 PM
If you don't have TVG I'm certain the race replay will be up on multiple accounts with youtube ... last time about five replays were posted within 20-minutes of her crossing the finishline ;)

Interesting stat for Australian racing: "Black Caviar could potentially start the shortest Group 1 favourite in 50 years" (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-could-potentially-start-the-shortest-group-1-favourite-in-50-years/story-fn67lu29-1226600093097)


The world champion sprinter has been listed as the $1.04 favourite in early TAB fixed odds betting for the $400,000 William Reid Stakes (1200m) at Moonee Valley.

If the great mare remains at those odds, or possibly even firms, she will start the shortest favourite in a Group 1 race for more than 50 years.

The shortest odds she has started in her unbeaten 23-race career is $1.05 - which bookies have bet six times in her last nine starts.

The only horse to start at shorter odds in a Group 1 race was Ajax at $1.02 (40/1 on) in the 1939 Rawson Stakes - and in a famous upset he was beaten by Spear Chief.

The Moonee Valley Racing Club is expecting up to 25,000 at Friday night's ticket-only meeting which is expected to be Black Caviar's last race in Melbourne.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 19, 2013, 12:34 PM
Video: Black Caviar worked at 4:30 am Tue March 19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlbAaTKXvV4)

Glimmerglass
Mar. 20, 2013, 03:13 PM
It goes off at 9:55 PM in Australia, so probably around 6:55 AM for the East coast.

I think. ;)

TVG talked about the race - they will air it live - and yes they said it was 3:55 a.m. Pacific Standard Time Friday morning for the US. So eastern would be 6:55 am which isn't too bad.

jennywho
Mar. 20, 2013, 03:48 PM
I don't remember what horse it was, but I do remember setting my alarm to get up to watch a Japanese race several years ago. Looks like I will be doing it again. 3:55, really?

Glimmerglass
Mar. 20, 2013, 04:17 PM
I don't remember what horse it was, but I do remember setting my alarm to get up to watch a Japanese race several years ago.

The late Tin Cup Chalice (d. 2009) perhaps? He raced in the Japan Cup Dirt (JPN-G1) at the end of 2008. Although I thought that particular race went off late in the States - around 1am vs. "early" ;) Either way - yes Nelly (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/553175_397940476909975_1006513511_n.jpg) will be running around coffee time Friday morning in the US.

jennywho
Mar. 20, 2013, 05:50 PM
No it was a Japanese horse that was going for a record, I've been trying to remember who it was all day. It would have been late 2004 early 2005. I had non racing guests staying with me and they thought I was certifiable

harvestmoon
Mar. 20, 2013, 07:57 PM
Deep Impact? Unbeaten (at the time) Japanese triple crown winner?

jennywho
Mar. 20, 2013, 10:31 PM
Deep Impact? Unbeaten (at the time) Japanese triple crown winner?

Yes! Thank you

Glimmerglass
Mar. 21, 2013, 12:59 PM
I'm curious - from this UK Daily Mail article (Mar 20th): "Black Caviar in the form of her life ahead of 24th straight win bid, says trainer Moody" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2296525/Black-Caviar-form-life-William-Reid-Stakes-Moonee-Valley.html) - there is this photo of her in her stall:

Image - what is on her front legs? (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/20/article-2296525-18CB07E7000005DC-688_634x396.jpg) - They're not shaved but it looks almost like silly putty.

Post Positions (again) for Friday's race (http://www.risa.com.au/FreeFields/Form.aspx?Key=2013Mar22,VIC,Moonee%20Valley#Race8)

In hopes tomorrow is not her last career start and of course to boost wagering interest Aussie wagering shop Unibet is putting up a $1M AU for BC and race mare More Joyous meet in the Royal Randwick (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/cash-lure-for-black-caviar-to-tackle-more-joyous-in-all-aged-stakes-at-royal-randwick/story-fn67siys-1226601976629) - held next month.

Lord Helpus
Mar. 21, 2013, 01:28 PM
I'm curious - from this UK Daily Mail article (Mar 20th): "Black Caviar in the form of her life ahead of 24th straight win bid, says trainer Moody" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2296525/Black-Caviar-form-life-William-Reid-Stakes-Moonee-Valley.html) - there is this photo of her in her stall:

Image - what is on her front legs? (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/20/article-2296525-18CB07E7000005DC-688_634x396.jpg) - They're not shaved but it looks almost like silly putty.

Post Positions (again) for Friday's race (http://www.risa.com.au/FreeFields/Form.aspx?Key=2013Mar22,VIC,Moonee%20Valley#Race8)

In hopes tomorrow is not her last career start and of course to boost wagering interest Aussie wagering shop Unibet is putting up a $1M AU for BC and race mare More Joyous meet in the Royal Randwick (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/cash-lure-for-black-caviar-to-tackle-more-joyous-in-all-aged-stakes-at-royal-randwick/story-fn67siys-1226601976629) - held next month.


It looks like a clay based poultice.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 21, 2013, 01:32 PM
It looks like a clay based poultice.

Most appreciated!

By the way bad news as I was incorrect on TVG airing the race. They will not air on tv live this one. Rather its only available on-line via their tvg.com site which I believe requires an account, et al.

Sorry about that folks! Although by the time that the morning tv-news programs are on the replays will be found.

Polydor
Mar. 22, 2013, 06:51 AM
She is on the course... race is about to start!

She is looking fantabulous! Would love to be there watching her. Atmosphere looks insane and a full crowd under lights at Moonee Valley.

Haven't found any written down but there seemed to be some talk about her heading back to England to race.

P.

Polydor
Mar. 22, 2013, 07:00 AM
WOOOOTTTT! Beautiful race! She won by 4 lengths and made it look so easy! I do have a connection to Fawkner who came in 3rd. Not really his distance but had to give him a shout out to him!

P.

elsbet
Mar. 22, 2013, 07:03 AM
YAY!!!!! So glad she won, but more imprtantly that she is okay. :)

Polydor
Mar. 22, 2013, 07:07 AM
She is a pretty chilled out mare. Just finished a sprint, there are 25 000 people screaming and she's walking flat foot past everyone with just her strapper back to her stall.

Did have a laugh that they are now selling advertising on her starting stall blanket :P

Oh and if you are keeping track that was Group 1 win # 14.

P.

Polydor
Mar. 22, 2013, 07:17 AM
And I did find an article about her possibly returning to England to take on the King's Stand Stakes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/9876061/Ascot-return-under-consideration-for-Black-Caviar.html

P.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 22, 2013, 08:07 AM
Video replay: Mar 22 - Grade 1 William Reid Stakes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9DWtIldTtU)

Win number 24 with ease.

CVPeg
Mar. 22, 2013, 09:03 AM
Thanks for the link, GG.

Just another day in the park!

frugalannie
Mar. 22, 2013, 09:50 AM
Thank you, Glimmerglass, for providing a link for those of us in TVG challenged areas.

And thanks Polydor for providing prompt results.

Gestalt
Mar. 22, 2013, 10:05 AM
Most excellent race!! She looked fantastic. At the final turn I had a flashback to Rachel Alexandras races, the way BC sits just by the leader and then....pow, she slides away.

Fantastic mare, so fun to watch. Thanks for the link Glim.

jennywho
Mar. 22, 2013, 10:06 AM
She always makes it look so easy. I thought I was going to miss the race being that I'm stuck at the farm with a pregnant mare that is determined to hold out as long as she possibly can. Thankfully twinspires offered it live

Glimmerglass
Mar. 22, 2013, 10:21 AM
A slightly clearer video - 2013 Hacer Group William Reid Stakes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EngeQxxq4Y) win number 24 for Nelly.

Also ...

Video: Channel Ten's post-race news segment with assorted on-site discussions and reflection back. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euMdK-JIPtU) Looks like it was the place to be.

Photo AAP: Darren McNamara - with Nelly in hand, William Reid Stakes (http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4589924-3x2-700x467.jpg)

Photo Getty Images: leaving the field in the stretch (http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4589908-3x2-700x467.jpg)

Photo Getty Images: post race thumbs up from Luke on Nelly (http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/23/1226603/878041-that-039-s-our-girl.jpg)


There was a profit to be made for some. One Sportsbet punter plonked $500,000 on Black Caviar, for a $15,000 profit.

Bookmaker Anthony Doughty said the hype around the race was "fantastic".

"Financially, it wasn't the best night for bookmakers, but it's just great to be a part of this Australian racing milestone," he said.

He said one punter plunged $70,000 on the nose on Black Caviar at $1.03 odds moments before the race.

Another placed a $20,000 bet with him on the superstar mare.

"The surprising bet was $1000 on the 11-year-old Good Ba Ba," he said.

While this was mentioned as perhaps a final race it appears her next is slated to be the $1 million TJ Smith (1,200m) at Randwick on April 13, a race she won two years ago against great rival Hay List. Plus a lot of pushing is out there to go back to Royal Ascot however the chances are slim to none IMHO.

BansheeBreeze
Mar. 22, 2013, 12:17 PM
I'm curious - from this UK Daily Mail article (Mar 20th): "Black Caviar in the form of her life ahead of 24th straight win bid, says trainer Moody" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2296525/Black-Caviar-form-life-William-Reid-Stakes-Moonee-Valley.html) - there is this photo of her in her stall:

Image - what is on her front legs? (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/20/article-2296525-18CB07E7000005DC-688_634x396.jpg) - They're not shaved but it looks almost like silly putty.

Post Positions (again) for Friday's race (http://www.risa.com.au/FreeFields/Form.aspx?Key=2013Mar22,VIC,Moonee%20Valley#Race8)

In hopes tomorrow is not her last career start and of course to boost wagering interest Aussie wagering shop Unibet is putting up a $1M AU for BC and race mare More Joyous meet in the Royal Randwick (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/cash-lure-for-black-caviar-to-tackle-more-joyous-in-all-aged-stakes-at-royal-randwick/story-fn67siys-1226601976629) - held next month.

Likely it's Numatozine (sp?), which is a medicated (and awesome!) poultice. It's pinkish and very goopy, almost like gum.

What a race she ran! She looks like she's running in slow motion and you don't realize how fast she's going until you see the horses behind her struggling all out. She's just incredible. Part of me wishes she'd retired because I don't want her to get beat, but I'm so glad her owners are letting the world enjoy her as long as she's happy and healthy. That would be amazing if she could run in the US or in Europe again, she really has nothing left to prove in Australia.

2tempe
Mar. 22, 2013, 01:01 PM
Its interesting to me how many outstanding mares we've seen in the last few years - Zenyatta, Rachel, Goldikova and now Black Caviar. And perhaps a few others that escape my mind at the moment. Maybe its because the colts are hustled off the track to the breeding shed, but in any case a lot of great "girl power".

Lord Helpus
Mar. 22, 2013, 04:45 PM
Ho Hum. Another paid workout for Black Caviar in a GI race. :D :D :D

Did she ever even extend herself? It doesn't look like it.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 24, 2013, 04:06 PM
Rather fascinating discussions on BC and going back to Royal Ascot (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/black-caviar-team-eye-royal-ascot-and-frankel-double-date/1226678/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews) (March 24, 2013):


connections of Black Caviar said in the aftermath of the victory that a return to the scene of her narrow head defeat of Moonlight Cloud in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes was under consideration.

However, that trip could hinge on a potential meeting with Frankel in his new role as a stallion.

Frankel covering Black Caviar would cause worldwide interest, and co-owner Gary Wilkie, quoted in an article on Racing Network, said: "The only reason you would go to Royal Ascot is that you are going to go to Frankel.

"We're not going to Royal Ascot if we can't go to Frankel. That's the issue not all the other bits and pieces. We have got a lot of decisions to make."

Seems like the British Racing officials better get to it with persuading those in charge to make room on Frankel's schedule ... and the bookmakers should ante up the hefty breeding fee if it means Nelly returns to Royal Ascot :D

2tempe
Mar. 27, 2013, 09:26 AM
Not a breeder here, but would they really take the mare, in racing fitness, to the breeding shed without some type of let down time, making sure her innards are working properly, etc?

OR would they take her there, let her unwind and do a later breeding?

Have to say that the concept of BC/Frankel could make me drool...

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 27, 2013, 10:26 AM
Not a breeder here, but would they really take the mare, in racing fitness, to the breeding shed without some type of let down time, making sure her innards are working properly, etc?

OR would they take her there, let her unwind and do a later breeding?

Have to say that the concept of BC/Frankel could make me drool...

You can breed and race a mare. Some rather famous mares have raced while in foal.
That said, I would think that she would not be covered by Frankel until after Sep 1st, so that the resulting foal is born after 1st Aug, which is the start of the foaling season in the southern hemisphere. The Royal meeting at Ascot is in the third week of June, so she would have a couple of months of down time.

2tempe
Mar. 27, 2013, 10:16 PM
Thanks for info - and it totally skipped my mind that they are probably on a slightly backwards calendar down under!!

Polydor
Mar. 29, 2013, 08:17 PM
Lots of BC talk this week down here. With the UK trip/ Frankel breeding, it is sounding positive with a couple other considerations of Peter Moody having final say of if she runs, if he's happy how she's been training etc. To me this raises questions on her last run in UK and if he really didn't want to run her.

Would a Frankel x BC be a good breeding match pedigree wise?

And the other drama down here has been that the BC owners have been rumoured to have asked Randwick for 220 member tickets to be given to them for her next race in Sydney. And a tent for them to hang out in for the day etc. Everyone is hoping this isn't the case that the owners are getting greedy.

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Polydor
Apr. 8, 2013, 08:56 AM
Nelly seems to be training well. :D

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-08/black-caviar-enjoying-27scary27-form/4615920

There is still talk about her meeting up with Frankel , also rumored that More Joyous (another top race mare) will be meeting up with him.

And because Sydney has been getting so much rain lately and Nelly doesn't do wet tracks , she might be coming back to Adelaide for the Goodwood in may.

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Polydor
Apr. 9, 2013, 06:13 AM
I had forgotten that Black Caviar's little half brother , a yearling, was going through the sale ring today at the Inglis Easter Yearling sale. They were projecting that he would go for around $3 million. Well he did more then that and went for a Aussi record of $ 5million! The sale ring was packed and looked like standing room only. Bidding started at $2 million and only went up, sometimes by half a million bids!

Article about the sale (http://www.inglis.com.au/news/item/5-million-record-for-black-caviars-sibling-at-inglis-easter)

Lot 131: Redoute's Choice x Helsinge colt (http://www.inglis.com.au/sales/horse/402-131/) There is a pic on this page.

He was bought by BC3 Thoroughbreds http://bc3.com/

They went on to buy a filly at 700K as well today. They have bought a couple of our homebreds too over the last couple years too.

Hope he lives up to all the hype!
P.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 10, 2013, 08:56 AM
So its unclear if she's a go or not for her 25th start ....

Saturday April 13, 2013: $1M AUS Group-1 at Randwick Racecourse (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-draws-rails-barrier-as-she-takes-on-old-foe-in-tj-smith-at-randwick/story-fn67tkww-1226617108318)

Field of 11 horses with Black Caviar drawing the 9th hole.


Moody said he understood the reasoning in making Black Caviar's race the last of the day.

"The last time we were here, two years ago, we were in race four and everyone went home after it," he said.

"If the track was to be wet then it would be even worse after eight races," Moody said.

"I've been pretty clear that she won't run on a wet track. That hasn't changed."


If successful, she will also extend her Group 1-winning streak to eight and take her career tally of major race wins to 15 – both Australian records.

CVPeg
Apr. 10, 2013, 10:02 AM
Darn, Polydor - would be just too bad ;) if she had to go to Adelaide!

Also saw lots of news of her half-brother's sale online here as well. Must be fun over there while all this is going on - in a land where they appreciate racing a bit more.

PeteyPie
Apr. 10, 2013, 03:25 PM
I had forgotten that Black Caviar's little half brother , a yearling, was going through the sale ring today at the Inglis Easter Yearling sale. They were projecting that he would go for around $3 million. Well he did more then that and went for a Aussi record of $ 5million! The sale ring was packed and looked like standing room only. Bidding started at $2 million and only went up, sometimes by half a million bids!

Article about the sale (http://www.inglis.com.au/news/item/5-million-record-for-black-caviars-sibling-at-inglis-easter)

Lot 131: Redoute's Choice x Helsinge colt (http://www.inglis.com.au/sales/horse/402-131/) There is a pic on this page.

He was bought by BC3 Thoroughbreds http://bc3.com/

They went on to buy a filly at 700K as well today. They have bought a couple of our homebreds too over the last couple years too.

Hope he lives up to all the hype!
P.

Wow, he's pretty!

All the black type on that page was more than impressive.

Polydor
Apr. 11, 2013, 12:36 AM
Darn, Polydor - would be just too bad ;) if she had to go to Adelaide!

Also saw lots of news of her half-brother's sale online here as well. Must be fun over there while all this is going on - in a land where they appreciate racing a bit more.

LOL love living in a country that has actual national public holidays for a 3 min horse race ( Melbourne Cup). Well it might now quite be an official holiday but it might as well be since no one works! lol And the Adelaide Cup day is a holiday.

And all the papers have the racing guide in it daily for the country.

P.