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*Jumping*With*A*Dream*
Nov. 26, 2003, 09:31 PM
What trends are you seeing in the Hunter/Jumper world that you wish would just go away?
What trends have left the Hunter/Jumper world that you are so glad have left and wouldn't want to come back?

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LargeJuniorHunter
Nov. 26, 2003, 09:36 PM
Three letters: G.P.A. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Founder of: "Non-GPA owners" clique
Member of: "I got left out of the ponies" clique

DarkerHorse
Nov. 27, 2003, 12:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LargeJuniorHunter:
Three letters: G.P.A. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Founder of: "Non-GPA owners" clique
Member of: "I got left out of the ponies" clique<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm a member of your clique. I was a junior for one year when they made the new rule, and showed in a non GPA approved. I doubt I would do that now because no one really does, but yay.

It's all over now baby blue..

War Admiral
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:59 AM
Puke green TS.
Martingales as decorative devices.

NEVER want to see another madras hunt coat (yes kiddies, they did exist)!

A trend I'd like to see come back: color-coordinating your outfit to complement your horse. OH I remember some loffly turnouts!! In fact, if I end up showing next season, I very well might do just that.

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Jezebel
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LargeJuniorHunter:
Three letters: G.P.A. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Founder of: "Non-GPA owners" clique
Member of: "I got left out of the ponies" clique<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Along with the sparkly stripes........... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

2487lyf
Nov. 27, 2003, 06:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jezebel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LargeJuniorHunter:
Three letters: G.P.A. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Founder of: "Non-GPA owners" clique
Member of: "I got left out of the ponies" clique<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Along with the sparkly stripes........... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>amen! ugh. I also wish some of the equatition trends would die... like no-release over the jumps and long sturrips and lunging horses till they are ready to drop... not to mention glitter on anything but small/medium childrens ponies. And loud colors as the lining on shadbellys... I could go on forever!!!

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spina
Nov. 27, 2003, 06:39 AM
O.K. here goes...

1. loose, drooping chin straps (just stupid)
2. ear nets on jumpers ( I know, I know...but it's over.
3. TS green (how did this even start?)
4. first names (as opposed to monograms or initials) on chokers. (they look great on a gas station uniform, though)

Nikki^
Nov. 27, 2003, 07:00 AM
1. Tall boots on children 12 and under.
2. Too long stirrups.
3. Grossly exaggerated releases and no releases.

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SCHunter
Nov. 27, 2003, 07:10 AM
i totally agree with the loosing tall boots for kids 12 and under! there is just no purpose to buy a little kid an expensive pair of tall boots when they are going to out grow them in year or so. also i just dont think that it looks appropriate.

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MistyBlue
Nov. 27, 2003, 07:11 AM
LOL, all of the above! However, even though I'm a member of the anti-GPA clique...I hinestly think those new CO's in those colors and prints are FAR worse! Lord have mercy, I never thought I'd see the day when pimp-olicious was a fashion choice for equestrian sports! Waiting in trepidation to see the platform tall boots and low rise britches to go with them. (Wait, the latter is already here! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif )
I'm also hoping to see talent replace drugs again for riders/horses. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

For trends that have left (and needed to go!) unapproved helmets, madras coats (saw those in my day too, blech!) and never having any color but bay in the show ring.

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 07:38 AM
I like how the hunters dress in a very "formal" traditional wear but why do you HAVE to wear blue, brown, green, or grey jackets?! I wish we could wear brighter colors, like the western showers. Also, whats up with the guarders? I think those things are sooo lame. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
I also hate how some judges wont pin appys! I love mine and he is a SAINT! Whats up with the mothers that arent happy when thier children did thier first jumping course and placed 3rd?! Its like, Come on, showing should be fun! Also, the judges can sometimes discriminate. Like seeing a chestnut with a blaze would pin 1st even though it was on the wrong lead part of the time and the loud paint that had daisy cutter movments doesnt place at all. At least with jumpers you go over the jump at the fastest speed and you win. You dont have to have the best lookin horse in the world. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[This message was edited by *iLoVeLoUeY* on Nov. 27, 2003 at 08:38 PM.]

Kirsten
Nov. 27, 2003, 07:59 AM
- glitter anywhere on a horse or human
- 5 million braids being standard (damn whoever started this... those who braid their own curse your existance!)
- helmet stripes and stickers in the hunters
- $250 saddle pads (hello sheepskin halfpad)
- braiding a poor animal to within an inch of its dignity with bright pink wool and pompoms (saw this one on Valentine's Day in WPB)

sweetnlo
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:06 AM
I agree and can only hope n pray that something more attractive/affordable will edge out the GPAs and TS greens in 2004. I love the look of tall boots on lil kids. Glitter is only cute on smalls and must whisper not scream

Horseymama
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:08 AM
Hair nets!!!

Reminds me of Taco Bell workers. Whats wrong with brushing your hair neatly back, maybe putting a few hair pins or barretts if you need them, but a hair net? Tacky, yucky, I can't believe so many people jump on this dorky bandwagon!

Calla
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I like how the hunters dress in a very "formal" traditional wear but why do you HAVE to wear blue, brown, green, or grey jackets?! I wish we could wear brighter colors, like the western showers. Also, whats up with the guarders? I think those things are sooo lame.
I also hate how some judges wont pin appys! I love mine and he is a SAINT but he isnt always high in the ribbons because the hunters dont like them... Poor ol' Lou! Whats up with the mothers that arent happy when thier children did thier first jumping course and placed 3rd?! Its like, Come on, showing should be fun! Also, the judges can sometimes discriminate. Like seeing a chestnut with a blaze would pin 1st even though it was on the wrong lead and the loud paint that had daisy cutter movments doesnt place at all. At least with jumpers you go over the jump at the fastest speed and you win. You dont have to have the best lookin horse in the world. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif ehem...I have to say I agree with almost everything except the stuff on this post...

I'm not against the anti-color discrimination but I've never seen or had an experience with a spotty horse not pinning when it should have. I don't think color discrimination is as big as you make it out to be. Usually if a paint doesn't pin the judge had a valid reason.

As for bright colors, ugh, not even going to say anything. Please, please keep the hot pink and rhinestones in the western pleasure ring.

Garters are another traditional thing. They were there to keep jodhpurs from riding up your legs. And don't even get me started on that jumpers comment...

I really wish the tall boots on little kids trend would die out. Its tacky and pointless.

I like the idea of color coordinating with your horse! as long as there are no rust breeches involved...

Peace Out!
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SidesaddleRider
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:39 AM
Kids wearing shadbellys with garters! Blah...Truthfully, anyone showing in a shadbelly without a top hat on. It's so not classy to wear your GPA with one. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

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Anticipation
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
I like how the hunters dress in a very "formal" traditional wear but why do you HAVE to wear blue, brown, green, or grey jackets?! I wish we could wear brighter colors, like the western showers. Also, whats up with the guarders? I think those things are sooo lame. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
I also hate how some judges wont pin appys! I love mine and he is a SAINT but he isnt always high in the ribbons because the hunters dont like them... Poor ol' Lou! Whats up with the mothers that arent happy when thier children did thier first jumping course and placed 3rd?! Its like, Come on, showing should be fun! Also, the judges can sometimes discriminate. Like seeing a chestnut with a blaze would pin 1st even though it was on the wrong lead and the loud paint that had daisy cutter movments doesnt place at all. At least with jumpers you go over the jump at the fastest speed and you win. You dont have to have the best lookin horse in the world. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've been reading some of your posts lately when you announced that you show in the same Local Association that I show my greenies in. With this attitude, I don't know how you last a day showing. Garters are god-sent, Loud colored jackets in the western pleasure ring make me want to puke.....and in the HCHSA they DO NOT pin chesnuts and bays over loud colored horses in the pony ring. I come from a huge show barn that does the locals and the "A"s and we have many many loud colored ponies who do fabulously in the show ring. You may have not noticed, but 2 of my friends (GirlNextDoor) and another rider with Ken Krome have 2 gorgeous Appys who dominate the "A" circuit. Appsolut and Bamboozled....You have a very warped view of the show circuit. Especially HCHSA......

Ericka
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bucklesbootsnspurs
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:02 AM
Hey - I agree with a lot of what ya'll are saying. But from a junior point of view I think that although the GPA stripes take away from the classy look of the hunter ring, I do not think that having a pom pom on your braids is in anyway tacky. Sure, its different but I mean come on now! We need something a little different every once in a while.

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Calla
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:02 AM
Well said, Anicipation.

Peace Out!
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IrishLuck
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:07 AM
All of the above, i dont like the too long stirrups either. GPAs are fine in the jumpers but their tacky in the hunters, i agree w/ the shadbelly statement too.

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:15 AM
My friend rides Appsolute and Bamboozled. They are some NNIICCEE horses. I am not saying that appys are never ever pinned! I am just saying that I wish people woould welcome them a little bit more. With the bright colors, I dont mean Hot Pink ad lime green with rhinestones. That would be a little wierd! I mean colors as in a really dark purple (like the dark blue) and a dark burgandy. I dunno, I think that would be kind of cool. I know garters are very traditional but we dont have that problem with pants riding up any more. When I had to wear them it annoyed the crap outta me! I will admit that the discrmination thing was a bit exaggerated but I have seen it happen. I think that I sometimes think of the horse world like I do because I have been lied to so many times from horse people. I know not all are like this but some are. How did you know that I rode in the HCHSA??

easyjumper1
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:18 AM
What's wrong with the fact that the sport is modernising a bit? And that the competitors are looking a bit more sportier these days? You don't see any tennis players still running around in wool sweaters and with tennis rackets made of wood, do you?

And as for all the stuff in the jumpers, as long as your not riding around in your bikini at shows, who cares? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Coreene
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:19 AM
I always thought it was too bad that you can't wear a red huntcoat. My entire wardrobe is black, white and red and I just loff red coats, so bummer that you can't do red huntcoats. Would look very cute on a black horse. So I'm all for War Admiral's loff for having your clothes complement your horse's coloring.

Then again, a red coat only looks good with white breeches, which I would not even wear in the privacy of my own home.

As for trends I wish would die, anothre vote for tall boots on little kids and shads with jods.

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by easyjumper1:
What's wrong with the fact that the sport is modernising a bit? And that the competitors are looking a bit more sportier these days? You don't see any tennis players still running around in wool sweaters and with tennis rackets made of wood, do you?

And as for all the stuff in the jumpers, as long as your not riding around in your bikini at shows, who cares? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It keeps the compitition a little harder i suppose! lol, I like your jumper statement! Very tru

Zaboobafoo
Nov. 27, 2003, 10:00 AM
I LOVE the sparkly GPAs. I NEVER wanted one, I think they are so ugly, but the thought of decorating the stripe is almost enough to make me give in to fashion and let my trusty, harnessless, not approved hat go....ALMOST.

I also LOVE the glitter, love kids in jodphurs and shadbellies(although I do say no tall boots until you are riding a medium!)and many other of the things you guys wish would go away...just shows why they stay, I guess http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oh and I would DIE for platform boots! I realized the other day how SHORT I feel in my paddock boots..I wish they had more heel!

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JuniorJumper01
Nov. 27, 2003, 10:16 AM
I personally like my GPA and puke green TS, thankyouverymuch. I also like the American flag sticker on the back of my GPA http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Decorated stripes don't bother me but I don't see myself doing that.

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Faded Dreams
Nov. 27, 2003, 10:24 AM
Ribbon Belts http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Anticipation
Nov. 27, 2003, 10:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>How did you know that I rode in the HCHSA??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because you wrote a whole post bad-mouthing Michael Friedman saying you used to train and show with him....I know Michael and he basically only does HCHSA.....and a few other locals.

Ericka
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Bob of Holli
Nov. 27, 2003, 10:54 AM
I don't care for the GPA's, especially with colorfulness on them. But what's wrong with having your first name on your choker? I love mine!

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showjump
Nov. 27, 2003, 11:26 AM
Not wearing a choker!! Just doesn't look good. If you are going to wear your coat, button your shirt and put your choker on.

bucklesbootsnspurs
Nov. 27, 2003, 11:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JumperStar01:
Ribbon Belts http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

* T I F F *<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I LOVE LOVE LOVE ribbon belts!! Especially since you can make them yourself and I just think they are adorable!

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 11:45 AM
I like the GPAs, I think that they are pretty nice. Anticipation: I didnt mean to bad mouth him. He is an EXCELLENT trainer but he was one of the ones that lied to my mom and I. I like him a lot, hes very funny and everything, he just didnt really get along with my mother very well.
What are ribbon belts? haha, im a little behind on that one.

Finzean
Nov. 27, 2003, 12:11 PM
Garters are not just traditional pieces of attire and unless one has some sort of bionic elastic strap to hold the jods in place, they will twist and ride up unless the garters are on. Try hunting for 3-4 hours - they do have a purpose.

And hairnets??? Nothing drives me crazier than to see "twigs" of hair sticking out from under helmets. It's tres, tres tacky beaucoup.

I am very conservative - feel like the horse should "show". I saw a rider last year who had so many silver bracelets on and no gloves....it was horribly distracting and certainly added nothing to her trip(s).

I would like to see the canary britches come back...a friend just bought a pair of canary, leather (not made from canary leather!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif )britches from Horse Country for hunting - they are absolutely beautiful. Back in the day, canary was in for show hunters. In fact just the other day I saw a rack of TS canary britches at one of the liquidator tack shops. It was very tempting and had I not just bought way too much stuff, I might have bought a pair!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Fine I give up, do it your way: heels up, eyes down!!

KristenB
Nov. 27, 2003, 12:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kirsten:
- 5 million braids being standard (damn whoever started this... those who braid their own curse your existance!)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen to that! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

EQrider3885
Nov. 27, 2003, 01:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Hair nets!!!

Reminds me of Taco Bell workers. Whats wrong with brushing your hair neatly back, maybe putting a few hair pins or barretts if you need them, but a hair net? Tacky, yucky, I can't believe so many people jump on this dorky bandwagon!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You are joking right???? IMO, there is nothing tackier than "wispies" hanging out from under one's helmet. No matter how many bobby pins or barettes you put in, you can never escape the "wispies"...or baby fuzz for that matter. HATE IT, HATE IT, HATE IT!!!

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jamz
Nov. 27, 2003, 02:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by easyjumper1:
What's wrong with the fact that the sport is modernising a bit? And that the competitors are looking a bit more sportier these days? You don't see any tennis players still running around in wool sweaters and with tennis rackets made of wood, do you?

And as for all the stuff in the jumpers, as long as your not riding around in your bikini at shows, who cares? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree.

And to add something else, personally, I love the GPAs, and while they may look silly to to you, at the same time, I think unapproved helmets look silly. I hope GPAs don't fade away for a very long time. I think they have become very classy and fashionable. They're helmets that look good on almost everyone. You just have to give them a chance, like I did.

And I love the stickers too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Anticipation
Nov. 27, 2003, 02:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
I like the GPAs, I think that they are pretty nice. Anticipation: I didnt mean to bad mouth him. He is an EXCELLENT trainer but he was one of the ones that lied to my mom and I. I like him a lot, hes very funny and everything, he just didnt really get along with my mother very well.
What are ribbon belts? haha, im a little behind on that one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You have every right to dislike someone....however it is very distasetful to bad mouth someone on a public message board. Keep your thoughts between you and your mom. I'm sure you would not like it if someone bad-mouthed you on a public message board.

Ericka
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horse addict
Nov. 27, 2003, 02:56 PM
Rust colored breeches... ICK ICK ICK ICK... what more can i say? Im glad they didnt last long... puke.

Sparkley saddle pads... ok this girl i dont like had a sparkley blue saddle pad, matching polos, matching fly bonnet... and shes 17... i can see kids doing that with ponies, it would be cute but i mean come on... And i dont care what people use for schooling but at a show i thikn they can tone it down a bit... this girl inherited the name "geenie", because the next day she just happened to be wearing a pouffy blue jacket the matched her ensemble quite well.

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girlsnotgrey
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:06 PM
One trend that I noticed at the Spruce Meadows HArvest Classic last month was some Mikmar bit designed by Ludger Beerbaum, blah blah blah. I don't mind people following most trends, but a bit trend is something that I believe to be appaling. More than half of the horses wearing this bit didn't require a bit this harsh, and only about 10% of the riders had good enough hands for a bit of that severity.
I JUST HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST!!!1 http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

eqnjumperrider
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:09 PM
EEWWWWWWWWWWWWWW on rust colored breeches, I would NEVER wear those.. I love my puke green tailored sportsman :-D

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:13 PM
Anticipation: Yeah, I realize that now. i regret doing it.

Jamz... I like the GPAs too, I think they are really nice looking. At least they dont make most people look like egg heads! lol.
Horseymama... I kind of agree to that too. I think that having hair stick out everywhere looks really dumb but I think just being able to pull it back really nicely should work.
horse addict... I love those wild and crazy pads, and I do wear them to shows. But I have to agree with the polo wraps and fly bonnet. When your at shows you have to look at least a bit respectful and present your self in the ring, even during schooling. I think that it is kinda dumb to wear PJs when schooling, unless its one of those "wake up at 2:00 in the morning" shows. I think that wearing PJs can be kind of dangerous, especially since most of them are about 10-12 years old.

jr
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:15 PM
girlsnotgrey,

Just a note, the Mikmar (at least the one I use, not sure if there is more than one variety)is not harsh. It may look awful, but it is actually very kind. My jumper went in a snaffle -- very light mouth. We switched to Mikmar because he actually is happier in it. He gets round, stays round, fusses less, and moves off your leg better. He was good before, he's even better now. If this bit were harsh, this horse would be flying backward at the slightest touch. He doesn't.

CoconutGrrl
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:20 PM
Will someone please explain to me what is wrong with the GPAs ?

I guess I don't mind loud colors or glitter or that type of thing as long as the horse and rider look good. But then, what do I know :-)

jr
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:22 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jr:
girlsnotgrey,

Just a note, the Mikmar (at least the one I use, not sure if there is more than one variety)is not harsh. It may look awful, but it is actually very kind. My jumper went in a snaffle -- very light mouth. We switched to Mikmar because he actually is happier in it. He gets round, stays round, fusses less, and moves off your leg better. He was good before, he's even better now. If this bit were harsh, this horse would be flying backward at the slightest touch. He doesn't. I don't go in for gimmicky bits -- all of my jumpers in the past few years have gone in snaffles. Now that I've used this bit, I think it works well for some horeses -- and not because it's harsh, but because it works on their mouth differently WITHOUT being harsh. Sometimes trends are a trend for a reason.

girlsnotgrey
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:28 PM
this is the bit im talking http://www.mikmarbit.com/combination_bit.htm

horse addict
Nov. 27, 2003, 03:30 PM
Eqnjumperrider- Haha lmao im happy with my puke green breeches too!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> One trend that I noticed at the Spruce Meadows HArvest Classic last month was some Mikmar bit designed by Ludger Beerbaum, blah blah blah. I don't mind people following most trends, but a bit trend is something that I believe to be appaling. More than half of the horses wearing this bit didn't require a bit this harsh, and only about 10% of the riders had good enough hands for a bit of that severity.
I JUST HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok so i dont know if its harsh or not harsh i havent heard much about them but i know Keeann White uses one but i dont blame him even if it is harsh, his horses are really hot and he is like always holding them back with everything he's got.

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DiZzyLiZzy
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
Jamz... I like the GPAs too, I think they are really nice looking. At least they dont make most people look like egg heads! lol. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
*ahhhemmm* I don't appreciate the *egghead* comment - I, personally, would rather not pay $300some for a helmet that is just a *trend*. Some people just can't afford to pay that much money for a helmet with air vents (woo-whoo!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif and have more important things to spend it on (ie, farrier... vet... etc). I'm perfectly happy with my clunky, traditional Charles Owen, and it works just as well, if not better, than, while we're name-calling here, a skunk helmet.

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FrittSkritt
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Finzean:
And hairnets??? Nothing drives me crazier than to see "twigs" of hair sticking out from under helmets. It's tres, tres tacky beaucoup.
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One more thing on hairnets... yes, use them, but please, please, PLEASE wear ones that match your hair color. Don't wear a blonde one with dark hair. Yes, one may have wish she had blonde hair, but that doesn't give her the right to wear a platinum blonde hairnet. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


Also, have it done tastefully... the woman on the cover of the latest PH is the prime example of a hairnet gone bad. You have ears, they're there for a reason (to hear your trainer yelling at you!), so don't cover them ALL up. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif


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Too tight martingales = bad. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif
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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiZzyLiZzy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
Jamz... I like the GPAs too, I think they are really nice looking. At least they dont make most people look like egg heads! lol. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
*ahhhemmm* I don't appreciate the *egghead* comment - I, personally, would rather not pay $300some for a helmet that is just a *trend*. _Some_ people just can't afford to pay that much money for a helmet with air vents (woo-whoo!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif and have more important things to spend it on (ie, farrier... vet... etc). I'm perfectly happy with my clunky, _traditional_ Charles Owen, and it works just as well, if not better, than, while we're name-calling here, a skunk helmet.

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I have a Charles Owen! I actually havent researched on the GPAs, I dont know how expensive they are. I said the egg head thing because me and my friend are always joking that we look like eggs because of our helmates. Its not a neg thing, pretty much everyone looks like that.

Jinx
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:13 PM
Dizzy Lizzy

no offense but that had to be one of the snottieist comments i have read in a while...many helmets arnt flattering to people...ie the cheap one i own...and instead of having a "egghead" one can have a "bubble" head with a GPA or ATH..

sheese and some people cant afforde the price of a triditional charles owen...humm some of those can run upward of 250 dollars...

i think many people take offense to comments said on this board when in reality its a internet BB...

why take offense to something written here...does it truly affect your life? no...

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Nov. 27, 2003, 04:18 PM
Thanks Jinx! I didnt mean anything by that comment! I even said lol after it. Thats the prob with comps, you cant hear the TONE of it.

2ndyrgal
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:29 PM
I agree with Finzean, of course I hunt, so I wear hairnets, no jewelry and gloves. Not only is jewelry not appropriate in the hunt field, my hubby bought me a simple gold band to wear in place of my wedding band when I hunt. Theory being, if I come off and break a finger, wrist, arm or what have you, I won't care if they have to cut the ring off. I have visions of one of the bangle bracelet crowd and a horse with a full cheek snaffle and and involuntary dismount. That and its a bit tacky. Of course I think the only people who should wear a wristwatch are adult men and jumper riders. Unless you have one of those fancy Rolex watches like Karen O'Conner. Oh, and I think your hairnet should match your haircolor, ie unless you are actually a platinum blond, there are better shades. And too much make up is just scarey.

DiZzyLiZzy
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:34 PM
Well then I apologize if it came off as snotty Jinx.

As I said: $300+ is, to me, expensive for a trendy helmet, like a GPA. I guess I would have to specify the exact style of my Charles Owen for you to know how much it was. I paid $175 for mine. To me, $175 and $300+ (I want to say $325 last time I checked) is a big difference.

The only reason I jumped about the egghead comment is because I don't really appreciate it when the only show helmet that I own (and loff) and think is a really nice helmet, is criticized like it's unattractive. I shouldn't have assumed, like I did, that *ilovelouey* was a GPA owner and was just talking badly about helmets not as expensive as GPA's, and saying that they weren't as nice. Sorry guys.

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiZzyLiZzy:
Well then I apologize if it came off as snotty Jinx.

As I said: $300+ is, to me, expensive for a trendy helmet, like a GPA. I guess I would have to specify the exact style of my Charles Owen for you to know how much it was. I paid $175 for mine. To me, $175 and $300+ (I want to say $325 last time I checked) is a big difference.

The only reason I jumped about the egghead comment is because I don't really appreciate it when the only show helmet that I own (and loff) and think is a really nice helmet, is criticized like it's unattractive. I shouldn't have assumed, like I did, that *ilovelouey* was a GPA owner and was just talking badly about helmets not as expensive as GPA's, and saying that they weren't as nice. Sorry guys.

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Thanks! With the internet and everything people often make that kind of mistake! lol

Madeline
Nov. 27, 2003, 04:49 PM
Unapproved helmets.
Helmets with loose chinstraps as if to say "I have to wear one of these good helmets, but I'm way too cool to wear it correctly"

Here's your sign.

madeline

jubilee220
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
My friend rides Appsolute and Bamboozled. They are some NNIICCEE horses. I am not saying that appys are never ever pinned! I am just saying that I wish people woould welcome them a little bit more. With the bright colors, I dont mean Hot Pink ad lime green with rhinestones. That would be a little wierd! I mean colors as in a really dark purple (like the dark blue) and a dark burgandy. I dunno, I think that would be kind of cool. I know garters are very traditional but we dont have that problem with pants riding up any more. When I had to wear them it annoyed the crap outta me! I will admit that the discrmination thing was a bit exaggerated but I have seen it happen. I think that I sometimes think of the horse world like I do because I have been lied to so many times from horse people. I know not all are like this but some are. How did you know that I rode in the HCHSA??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So we don't need high boots either, because we could show in chaps and paddock boots, right?

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Tomboy
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:08 PM
Youre showing the horse and not yourself.. right? why do people wear the sparly helmets, with the stripes and glitter? to me it just takes away from the horse. you want the focus to be on the horse and not the rider. and i personally always try to match my horse, at least with my shirt color. i only have one coat.. so im stuck with that. i ride either a chesnut or a black/dark brown. matching just makes the over all aperance look better.
so my list..
GPA's - i call them salad bowls.. they are big enough to fix a salad in.. blech.. i hate them my charles owen at least fits.. it doesnt make my head look like it is too big for my body
tall boots on pony kids- im sorry.. it just looks bad.
glitter- youre taking away from the aperance of the horse...

and I love rust britches.. its the only way i can find my trainer. shes normally the only one wearing them at shows.. i think they look fine if worn with the right color horse (sorry.. they needed a defender... )

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jubilee220:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
My friend rides Appsolute and Bamboozled. They are some NNIICCEE horses. I am not saying that appys are never ever pinned! I am just saying that I wish people woould welcome them a little bit more. With the bright colors, I dont mean Hot Pink ad lime green with rhinestones. That would be a little wierd! I mean colors as in a really dark purple (like the dark blue) and a dark burgandy. I dunno, I think that would be kind of cool. I know garters are very traditional but we dont have that problem with pants riding up any more. When I had to wear them it annoyed the crap outta me! I will admit that the discrmination thing was a bit exaggerated but I have seen it happen. I think that I sometimes think of the horse world like I do because I have been lied to so many times from horse people. I know not all are like this but some are. How did you know that I rode in the HCHSA??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So we don't need high boots either, because we could show in chaps and paddock boots, right?

http://community.webshots.com/user/sawbuckaussies
some pics up, but under construction!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats my personal opinion! You obviously like garters and that is fine with me. Again, I personally dont like them.

jubilee220
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jubilee220:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
My friend rides Appsolute and Bamboozled. They are some NNIICCEE horses. I am not saying that appys are never ever pinned! I am just saying that I wish people woould welcome them a little bit more. With the bright colors, I dont mean Hot Pink ad lime green with rhinestones. That would be a little wierd! I mean colors as in a really dark purple (like the dark blue) and a dark burgandy. I dunno, I think that would be kind of cool. I know garters are very traditional but we dont have that problem with pants riding up any more. When I had to wear them it annoyed the crap outta me! I will admit that the discrmination thing was a bit exaggerated but I have seen it happen. I think that I sometimes think of the horse world like I do because I have been lied to so many times from horse people. I know not all are like this but some are. How did you know that I rode in the HCHSA??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So we don't need high boots either, because we could show in chaps and paddock boots, right?

http://community.webshots.com/user/sawbuckaussies
some pics up, but under construction!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats my personal opinion! You obviously like garters and that is fine with me. Again, I personally dont like them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry I shouldn't have been so mean. I just love tradition, I think it's one of the things that make riding and showing so special.

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:35 PM
Traditions are very special for the show ring. With out that people would go in and show in rags or a HUGE puffy coat that wouldnt show ur Eq very well. I just think that having a little more color (dark purple, and dark burgandy) would be cool. Garters are VERY VERY traditional, I just think they dont help your riding, and they dont improve it either. I think they look dumb. At least its only for a
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SuperPony
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:54 PM
PRICES!!!

Ok, this probably isn't a TREND, but I am so tired of having anything you need to show in cost so much.

Helmet, $325.
Coat, $500.
Show shirt, $80.
Breeches, $220.
Boots, $450.

That's over $1500 and doesn't even start to include your tack, horse, show fees, etc. And yes, you don't NEED to spend so much to show, but there is always pressure to have the 'right' coat or the 'right' helmet, especially in hunters where appearance is everything.

JuniorJumper01
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiZzyLiZzy:
The only reason I jumped about the egghead comment is because I don't really appreciate it when the only show helmet that I own (and loff) and think is a really nice helmet, is criticized like it's unattractive. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, the maturity level of this thread is declining...rapidly.

Honey, you need to chill. I guess you haven't realized yet but this entire thread is about trends that you personally do or do not like. A LOT of people own $200 puke green breeches that others have criticized but no one is throwing a conniption fit about it. GPAs have been slightly bashed too and a lot of people have shelled out big bucks for those. Breathe. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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jamz
Nov. 27, 2003, 05:56 PM
I was never huge on tradition. My decisions are based on what Jamz wants to do. :P

My GPA fits perfectly. To say that only one type of helmet fits just isn't correct. GPA helmets are ones that come in many sizes, which is why I said they are likely to fit almost everyone. I do like the look of some of the Charles Owen helmets (I love the light blue one that everyone else hates). However, they don't sell them around here, so I don't know a lot about them. Until I get one, I'll just sit back and continue to defend my poor helmet that everyone continues to bash.. poor GPA.. if it had feelings, it would be very sad right now.

At the shows, I'm showing my horses, and myself. What they can do, and what I can do. Showing has gotten way too tense and serious. Most of us do this for the fun of it... but what's the fun in being so unhappy about what other people are doing?

This sport is supposed to be about having fun. Props to everyone who sometimes let loose and throw on bright yellow polos, or stickers on their helmets, or a funky shaped saddle pad. We should be able to dress up this sport sometimes. Don't get so upset about these things. Instead of dropping your jaw and going, how ugly, why would she DO that to herself or her horse.. try laughing. You'll be happier for doing so. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Or do what you want. It's your choice... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 27, 2003, 06:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jamz:
I was never huge on tradition. My decisions are based on what Jamz wants to do. :P

My GPA fits perfectly. To say that only one type of helmet fits just isn't correct. GPA helmets are ones that come in many sizes, which is why I said they are likely to fit almost everyone. I do like the look of some of the Charles Owen helmets (I love the light blue one that everyone else hates). However, they don't sell them around here, so I don't know a lot about them. Until I get one, I'll just sit back and continue to defend my poor helmet that everyone continues to bash.. poor GPA.. if it had feelings, it would be very sad right now.

At the shows, I'm showing my horses, and myself. What they can do, and what I can do. Showing has gotten way too tense and serious. Most of us do this for the fun of it... but what's the fun in being so unhappy about what other people are doing?

This sport is supposed to be about having fun. Props to everyone who sometimes let loose and throw on bright yellow polos, or stickers on their helmets, or a funky shaped saddle pad. We should be able to dress up this sport sometimes. Don't get so upset about these things. Instead of dropping your jaw and going, how ugly, why would she DO that to herself or her horse.. try laughing. You'll be happier for doing so. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Or do what you want. It's your choice... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Jamz... You are my hero!! lol. Finally someone says it for me!!!!!! That is EXACTLY how I feel. I dont have a GPA but I think they are NICE! I also like the blue Charles Owens! People need to let loose and just have fun!

horse addict
Nov. 27, 2003, 06:59 PM
I agree with you on people letting loose and having fun, although i do have my opinions on certain things being ugly... i dont completely freak out at them though, my friend has rust breeches, i think they are ugly but its not like i jump on her because she wears them lmao... i think its cute when people are just home schooling and wear crazy saddle pads or funky polos, i know people who wear a different colored polo on each leg and i think its so funny... i would do that if i owned polo's lol.

*edited to say* I really like the blue charles owens, they are really cute and i would get one but i dont think anyone around here sells them, i wouldnt wear them showing but i would wear them schooling all the time.

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Nov. 27, 2003, 07:53 PM
yup yup!

BabyKisses
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:22 PM
the trend i would like see die is this stuck-upness at the A shows. i dont mean to be offensive to anyone because i know not everyone is, but it has been my experience that as a whole people at the A's can be very stuck up. Not just the a's but i have found the hunter world to be like this, and i have been showing since i was 2. There are people out there who are very kind and very helpful, but they seem to be very few.

Chelsea
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:35 PM
The only 2 things I hate with a passion:'

Rolling down your tailored sportsmens (yes they are uncomfortable, but it is too tacky for words IMO)

Loud, obnoxious, tacky show shirts (almost iridescent looking).

I guess those are my two pet peeves!

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Horsepower
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:49 PM
I vote for all the ridiculously overpriced items out there now for showing. I actually like the GPA because of the design in the back. I find that very comfortable and have trouble with the helmets that tie in the back coming undone. But the price is preposterous. Same for all the new super-expensive breeches coming out these days (unless of course they would miraculously make me a better rider -- no? oh well. Gosh darn.)

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Baileybff
Nov. 27, 2003, 08:55 PM
My, I dunno if I wanna speak my "opinion" here or not, lol http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif.

*I never want to see flat tack come back.
*Can't stand light tack on black or dark colored horses...ICKY!
*I have a major problem with non-approved helmets (could just be that I almost killed myself while wearing one, but who knows).
*Agree with the NO tall boots on small children. However, I can't stand seeing kids in jodphurs with NO garters. It just looks unfinished to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, they do provide the child with a little more 'stickum' than none at all.

*I personally have no problem with the GPA's, have one and love it...even put some subtle stripping on it (and I'm an ADULT ::gasp:http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
*I miss rust breeches and wish they would come back in.

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Fiction
Nov. 27, 2003, 09:32 PM
Oh man is this thread just asking for a catfight... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Anyways.
1) GPAs. I love my GPA. Very comfortable hat, and it actually doesn't make your head look HUGE. My friend and I were both saying the other day, we occasionally ride in our old unnaproved hats at home, and compared to showing in GPAs all the time, the old hats really make you look like a pinhead. It's a style that's become quite commonly seen now, whereas I remember when everyone threw fits when they heard about the new rule.

2) Sparkly GPA stripes. I don't have one. I might be shot by my barn if I got one. I think there's a time & a place for this. In the pony hunters, it's cute. On jumpers maybe, and the occasional Junior Hunter. In the equitation- no. I'm not a fan in the eq ring. That's one place where tradition should be upheld.

3) Pukey Green TS. They won't be dead anytime soon. Almost everyone has them, and they're hugely popular. I might not wear pants that color to school, but for showing, it's the norm, and I don't mind them. I certainly prefer them over rust, canary, or grey.

4) Tall boots vs. garter straps. Large pony riders & up need tall boots. You can get them at really good deals lately, so if you're showing a larger animal, it really looks that much better. Small pony kids should be in garters for the most part, and the medium kids could go either way, depending on height, age, general apperance.

IMO, things at horse shows should be done with class. Saddle pads & such should be white, tack should be clean, and boots on your horse should be clean & in good condition. Please no white polos, that's one thing I'd like to see go away. Black is better http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Clothes & tack should be well fitting, and the overall picture should be neat & polished. You should try to make a good apperance at a show. You wouldn't see a model going to a fashion show not showering and having dirty hair, would you? A horse show is a place to look your best. And I'm sure your horse would be embaressed if he showed up all dirty. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

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eqnjumperrider
Nov. 28, 2003, 12:36 AM
I like everything to look traditional, but I think GPA's are awesome, I love mine. I think that flashy colored pads in the jumpers look extraordinarily tacky, as well as bright neon and yellow show shirts,hair that is not in a hairnet, and tall boots that are too short, among many other things.

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 28, 2003, 04:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BabyKisses:
the trend i would like see die is this stuck-upness at the A shows. i dont mean to be offensive to anyone because i know not everyone is, but it has been my experience that as a whole people at the A's can be very stuck up. Not just the a's but i have found the hunter world to be like this, and i have been showing since i was 2. There are people out there who are very kind and very helpful, but they seem to be very few.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree. Some people put there are really nice and helpful but then you run into those with thier daughters competeing against you and all hell breaks out. People need to relax and just have fun instead of thinking how much the Champion ribbon would look good in her room, waiting to be shown off.

everyequine
Nov. 28, 2003, 06:33 AM
what I want to know is whey do after all the years that GM has preached EQ, do the "professional" riders lay on the neck, throw away reins and just look so doggone awful?? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

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2ndyrgal
Nov. 28, 2003, 06:45 AM
I want to know that too.

Anyplace Farm
Nov. 28, 2003, 07:06 AM
I wish stuff w/goofy colors would die. Hate funky polo wraps and pads...where is the "barf" emoticon so I can put it in here? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

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ponygal5
Nov. 28, 2003, 07:19 AM
YEA!! There are many trends that need to go!

jamz
Nov. 28, 2003, 07:30 AM
Head for the washrooms girls, because here we come!

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Btw, I've been looking for a saddle pad to match. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Double pukage, I guess..

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And white polos that are most definately not going away.. I paid for them, and I will use them.. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[This message was edited by jamz on Nov. 28, 2003 at 10:42 AM.]

Rifter
Nov. 28, 2003, 07:41 AM
=> Kids sporting shadbellies & jods: Shadbellies should be worn with tall boots and top hats!
=> Little kids in tall boots: Why the heck would you buy $300+ boots for a kid who'll maybe (if you're lucky!) get a year out of them?
=>Martingales as decoration: Please only use them when necessary! If you need to decorate the chest somehow, throw on a plain breast plate.
=>Chaps for schooling shows: I'm not saying you need to go out and pay $1500 for nice show clothes, but if you have a horse and are paying to take it to a show (even if just a schooling show) I'm fairly sure you could afford at least a pair of schooling breeches and some cheap tall boots. I'm not even saying you need a hunt coat. But you're in a SHOW ring. The judge is giving his/her time to evaluate your "showing," so leave the chaps at home.

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horsepop
Nov. 28, 2003, 08:19 AM
I would like the following trends to fade away:
People complaining about the judging, about the competition. People who would like not braid for the A Circuit
Kids and adults that just hand their horses off for a groom to take care of after they show (I would like to see more rubbing and patting the horse before they send it back, I don't mind the use of a groom, just don't like to see the I don't care attitude you sometimes see).
I would love to see threads about helmets fade in to the sunset. How many different topics end up being this same OLD STUFF about what is best.
Happy Holidays!

Finzean
Nov. 28, 2003, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> However, I can't stand seeing kids in jodphurs with NO garters. It just looks unfinished to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, they do provide the child with a little more 'stickum' than none at all.

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Yep, you're correct. If one's garters drive one THAT crazy perhaps they are incorrectly fitted.

Fine I give up, do it your way: heels up, eyes down!!

Horseymama
Nov. 28, 2003, 08:41 AM
Dear EQrider3885, Finzean, PoloPony257, and anyone else who thinks hairnets are beautiful...Ick, silly, makes you look like you would do anything to fit in with "the crowd."

I have ridden hunters and jumpers on the A circuit for 15 years and can proudly say that I have never succumb to the hairnet trend. I have long, layered hair and even though I don't wear a hairnet, I have also never had strands flying out from under my helmet either. (Oh my gosh, is it possible without a hairnet?) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I know a lot of you teenage girls have a hard time with the hairnet thing because everybody else does it, but I encourage you to make your own decisions, un-influenced by the rest of "the crowd."

I mean really, a hairnet? Sure wouldn't make me feel like an athlete, just a dork.

jamz
Nov. 28, 2003, 09:13 AM
Personally, I love the tidy look of a hairnet.. Not because everyone else does, because I do.

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*shannon*
Nov. 28, 2003, 09:28 AM
I wouldn't say hairnets and green T.S. are really trends???

Ever since I started showing I've worn a hairnet (14 years) and I've been wearing the green T.S. for 10!

Aren't trends things that come and go from one season to the next? Kinda like fads?

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foursocks
Nov. 28, 2003, 10:02 AM
Not to take away from the hairnet vs anti-hairnet factions, since that is obviously a topic of burning interest, but about Mikmars- they're not harsh- they look funky, but the design of the bit distributes pressure in different places, so it's not all in the mouth.

It's not the bit for everyone, and I agree that people should not use a certain bit because it is trendy *cough* pelham *cough* but I can vouch from experience that the Mikmar combo really is not nasty, even though it looks like it is. I ride a jumper in one, and before his owner, a trainer, put that bit on him, he was nearly unrideable- now he goes very softly, with very little pressure on the reins, whereas before, he would simply put his head down and run. He never pins his ears of hollows his back with this bit- and I don't have to use my whole body to get him to stop when he decides he'd like a little gallop. He is a huge dumblood, and seriously, this bit has made him a lot happier and more pleasant to ride.

Ok, back to hairnets. When I was a kid and showing in the juniors, I's have several on to try to contain my long hair, and I'd walk around in=between classes with no helmet but hairnets still in place- my trainer used to call me Nipsey Russell.

You can take a line and say it isn't straight- but that wont change its shape. Jets to Brazil

critter915
Nov. 28, 2003, 10:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiZzyLiZzy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
Jamz... I like the GPAs too, I think they are really nice looking. At least they dont make most people look like egg heads! lol. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
*ahhhemmm* I don't appreciate the *egghead* comment - I, personally, would rather not pay $300some for a helmet that is just a *trend*. _Some_ people just can't afford to pay that much money for a helmet with air vents (woo-whoo!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif and have more important things to spend it on (ie, farrier... vet... etc). I'm perfectly happy with my clunky, _traditional_ Charles Owen, and it works just as well, if not better, than, while we're name-calling here, a skunk helmet.

Member of the Non-GPA Clique!
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Not all people get them b/c they are 'fashionable.' I got mine b/c it is probably the safest out there(for me) beause it fits me so well. If the Charles Owen had fit me better, I would have gotten that.

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 28, 2003, 12:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by critter915:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiZzyLiZzy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
Jamz... I like the GPAs too, I think they are really nice looking. At least they dont make most people look like egg heads! lol. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
*ahhhemmm* I don't appreciate the *egghead* comment - I, personally, would rather not pay $300some for a helmet that is just a *trend*. _Some_ people just can't afford to pay that much money for a helmet with air vents (woo-whoo!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif and have more important things to spend it on (ie, farrier... vet... etc). I'm perfectly happy with my clunky, _traditional_ Charles Owen, and it works just as well, if not better, than, while we're name-calling here, a skunk helmet.

Member of the Non-GPA Clique!
http://community.webshots.com/user/dizzylizzy549<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not all people get them b/c they are 'fashionable.' I got mine b/c it is probably the safest out there(for me) beause it fits me so well. If the Charles Owen had fit me better, I would have gotten that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, my charles owen looks horrible on me but it fits! The internationals and stuff WOULD NOT fit me.

horse addict
Nov. 28, 2003, 01:15 PM
Ohh and like someone else said... those indecresent colored show shirts in like ughly purple and blue and reddish burgundy... *barf*

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Pigglet
Nov. 28, 2003, 02:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Dear EQrider3885, Finzean, PoloPony257, and anyone else who thinks hairnets are beautiful...Ick, silly, makes you look like you would do anything to fit in with "the crowd."

I have ridden hunters and jumpers on the A circuit for 15 years and can proudly say that I have never succumb to the hairnet trend. I have long, layered hair and even though I don't wear a hairnet, I have also never had strands flying out from under my helmet either. (Oh my gosh, is it possible without a hairnet?) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I know a lot of you teenage girls have a hard time with the hairnet thing because _everybody else does it_, but I encourage you to make your own decisions, un-influenced by the rest of "the crowd."

I mean really, a _hairnet?_ Sure wouldn't make me feel like an athlete, just a dork.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I've worn a hairnet since I started to show, and I can honestly say that it is not because I want to "follow the trend". So you can get all your hair up with out a hairnet? Good for you. My hair is short - just below the chin - and has lotsa layers, so I can't. My shortest layer is about cheekbone, and no matter how hard I try, there is no way I will be able to get it back. If I didn't use a hairnet, then I wouldn't have wisps hanging out, I would have chunks.

I didn't even know hairnets were considered a trend, because for me its not. Its a necessity.

And by the way, I am one of those teenage girls, and I decided to wear a hairnet because my hair looked awfully untidy without it,

-Nicole-

hillary
Nov. 28, 2003, 02:11 PM
The GPA helmet has got to be an interesting "trend". It is great that it's safe and EVERYONE wants one...remember when the approved rule was passed and all the juniors had tantrums? I just think it's kind of a statement that every junior rider now is wearing a $325 helmet. At the Maclay finals, EVERY RIDER wore a GPA. I might have missed a few but I don't think so! That's $32,500 worth of helmets right there.....amazing. Nope, sorry, I don't buy the idea that this brand is so much better than the others that it merits this price tag. Hey, like I said, at least this is a positive fashion trend (safe).

CallieJump
Nov. 28, 2003, 02:25 PM
-GPA helmets (bleh, Charles Owen are much better and classy looking!) I'd prefer not to have to worry about falling off and hurting my helmet more than myself...lol
-tailored sportsmans (why have to pay $150 for breeches when you can get perfectly good ones for $60!)
-glitter on horses/people
-leaving a heart or star shape unclipped on a horse's rump. it's just strange looking!

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pinkhorse
Nov. 28, 2003, 02:45 PM
No hairnet? Not with this head of hair. And what's the problem - I mean most of it's covered up by the helmet anyway.

And besides, (harking back to a comment on an earlier page) it seconds as my "hunter hair". I don't have the long straight parted in the middle hair I wished for as a teenager (and, speaking of trends, am sad to see has returned - the the parts are pretty funky now!) so I use my hair net to cover my ears (I can, unfortunately, hear just as well with it over my ears as not).

GPA's? Hey, I'm getting used to them. They're not my cup of tea. They are most definately a fad. But, y'know? If someone's got the money to spend on an expensive approved helmet and they'll actually be happy to wear it because "everyone else has one" I've got no complaint. I just wish they'd tighten up that chin strap!

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SunshineGA
Nov. 28, 2003, 02:47 PM
I Love Louey-

This is i response to your post on like the very first page... ok a) I thought the point of showing hunters was supposed to be about who had the better looking horse b)hunters are about having the form is function in the FIELD... loud colors+hunting=no good. Now I loff loud colors cause I also show western horsemanship... But if you are doing Eq... loud, bright colors on jackets amplify every hand/arm movement you make, thus we wear darker,more conservative colors.

Addressing the hairnets as a "fad" that should go?? last time I checked, I wear a hairnet to keep my hair in place... now I also don't need to one keep my hair in place, but I wear one "just in case". So no, I don't wear a hairnet to follow the crowd, thanks http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And last time I checked my 40+ yr old trainer wears a hairnet too... so she's definately not an insecure "teenager" who feels the need to follow the crowd http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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HunterUnderSaddle
Nov. 28, 2003, 03:00 PM
Do you H/Js have tail extensions for your horse? ( Its the kind where you attach a long tuff of hair right under the dock of the horse's tail) I ride Hunter under Saddle with my QH and I absolutly love it! It makes her tail look really full. So, I think tail extensions should come back in....if they were ever in.

Baileybff
Nov. 28, 2003, 03:02 PM
On the GPA point...I must say, I tried on one of every approved helmet there is before buying my GPA. I didn't buy it because it was the "in thing", I bought it because it FITS me best. The Charles Owens looked horrible (ON ME) as did the others. Now, I understand it's not all about looks. However, when the look and the fit were an A+ in my book, I purchased. Mind you, I had just had a horrible fall off a greenie that sent me to the hospital knocked out with a concusion. So at that point, price was no object for keeping my brain in tact.
I totally agree that I think they are over priced. I agree that they are def. not "old fashion". However, I think if it IS safe and it DOES fit, why give someone a hard time. I'd rather pay $300 to keep myself alive than to follow the TS trend and pay the $200 to be "in style". Mind you I have a pair...and yes I said A pair. I don't have a drawer full of the suckers and the ones I do have, I purchased off of ebay for much less.
Ok, my rant is over...but the GPA thing was sorta getting on my nerves. I do believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion...and this is MINE, lol~
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Little Indian
Nov. 28, 2003, 04:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Hair nets!!!

Reminds me of Taco Bell workers. Whats wrong with brushing your hair neatly back, maybe putting a few hair pins or barretts if you need them, but a hair net? Tacky, yucky, I can't believe so many people jump on this dorky bandwagon!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i use them, always do. at shows and at home. to me, i don't do it because "everybody else does" but to take so much time doing my hair when a) i just need to get my helmet on and get to the ring, or b) it's 8 o'clock on a saturday morning for 4 o'clock in the afternoon after school, i don't want to tkae forever doing my hair. so i just pop on the net and go. plus my helmet doesn't fit right without it. (blessed with a small head lol)

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blaze2882
Nov. 28, 2003, 04:54 PM
I wear hairnets at home to school as well as at shows....I'd rather my hair NOT fall down and look ugly. I don't do it because of a trend, I do it because I think that it looks wretched to have hair flying all over the place when you ride.

If you can get your hair up and to stay in place without a hair net, more power to you. But the majority of us can't.

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critter915
Nov. 28, 2003, 05:00 PM
I put my hair up when I got my helmet, so that's how my helmet fits. I not only choose to wear them, but I have to wear them for the fit of my helmet.

becca's boys
Nov. 28, 2003, 05:04 PM
I am sure this has already been mentioned....but can we ever say goodbye to the "dangling with 6 inches of slack in the chin strap" look??? That is definately a trend (as opposed to hairnets) and it is an annoying and highly ignorant one.

critter915
Nov. 28, 2003, 05:08 PM
I think my chin strap looks better tighter, personally... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

SunshineGA
Nov. 28, 2003, 05:39 PM
I agree critter! I also wouldn't want to be dumped with it dangling... not with all the psychos I've ridden!

I still can't figure out the deal with hairnets is... what you can't see can't hurt you!

Helmets.. GPA, CO, International... whogives a crap? I sure don't... I personally got a good deal on an International ($80) cause they're apparently not "in" and no one was buying them and the tack shop was tryin to get rid of them.... and I'm still winning... hmmm... guess the judge is looking at my eq and NOT how much I spent on my helmet.

If I paid over $300 for a helmet it better ride my horse for me.

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Horseymama
Nov. 28, 2003, 05:44 PM
Oh you pooor babies. I feel so sorry for you. "Oh my hair might look awefully out of place without my hairnet, oh me oh my."Are you the kind of girls with long fake fingernails, too? I love that you are "defending" wearing a Hairnet!

P.S. The way you make something look good is by feeling good in it.

HolySmoke
Nov. 28, 2003, 05:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Calla:
Well said, Anicipation.

Peace Out!
http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Calla http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

well said all of you! haha

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SunshineGA
Nov. 28, 2003, 05:59 PM
roflmao horseymama... I have NEVER had fake nails thank you very much... and yes I like to have a polished look when I go I the show ring. Otherwise I dont give a crap what my hair does.

Nice try though...

PS- You can't feel a hairnet

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Horseymama
Nov. 28, 2003, 06:19 PM
Its okay SunshineGA, I forgive you. It's probably something you have never questioned before, because so many people in the horse show world do it. For me, hairnets echo too much of the Arab Western show world. (Not that there is anything wrong with that)

Think about it, female European showjumping riders don't wear hairnets. It's not done all over the world.

I just like to question why we do certain things...as groups, as an industry, as horse trainers. Sometimes you'll find that when you look at why you do certain things, you might find a really silly reason behind it. But either way, it's good to know.

Oh wait, I have a great idea! If you guys are really into hairnets, lets start marketing colored hairnets! I'll be the first one to wear one, maybe a navy blue one. We could color coordinate with our hunt coats and hats, oh my, the possibilities are endless...

critter915
Nov. 28, 2003, 06:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Oh you pooor babies. I feel so sorry for you. "_Oh my hair might look awefully out of place without my hairnet, oh me oh my._"Are you the kind of girls with long fake fingernails, too? I love that you are "defending" wearing a Hairnet!

P.S. The way you make something look good is by feeling good in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm actually an avid nail-biter. and as I posted before, I wear them(the hairnets, not the nails) b/c of the fit of my helmet. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

haha and I really don't do it from an influence of my trainer- she doesn't wear one! I think there really is a polished look with it when I wear one, but there are others at my barn that don't and it look good either way(my hair won't let me do that, despite my efforts!)

SunshineGA
Nov. 28, 2003, 06:46 PM
Welcome to America Horseymama...

First off I have shown without a hairnet, but that can only be done when my hair has gotten long enough to do so.

I am not too familiar with the Arab Western show world??? And I have no idea what that has to do with hairnets to tell you the truth... hairnets have no discipline... you wear them when you need your hair to stay in place. Its much easier than hairspray if you ask me.

I personally think that you think WAY to hard about why we do things so minor as wearing a hairnet. If you can't see it, you can't feel it, but it keeps your hair in place... what's the problem? They are 53 cents for a pack of 3 at the grocery store, so were not exactly trying to make a class statement... were just trying to make our hair behave... didn't know that was an issue!

If you think wearing hairnets is silly I think you need to assess your thought process. You think way too hard and its not going to get you anywhere in life except in the dr's office with ulcers and high blood pressure.

"When life gives you lemons, make margharitas!"

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 28, 2003, 06:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SunshineGA:
Welcome to America Horseymama...

First off I have shown without a hairnet, but that can only be done when my hair has gotten long enough to do so.

I am not too familiar with the Arab Western show world??? And I have no idea what that has to do with hairnets to tell you the truth... hairnets have no discipline... you wear them when you need your hair to stay in place. Its much easier than hairspray if you ask me.

I personally think that you think WAY to hard about why we do things so minor as wearing a hairnet. If you can't see it, you can't feel it, but it keeps your hair in place... what's the problem? They are 53 cents for a pack of 3 at the grocery store, so were not exactly trying to make a class statement... were just trying to make our hair behave... didn't know that was an issue!

If you think wearing hairnets is silly I think you need to assess your thought process. You think way too hard and its not going to get you anywhere in life except in the dr's office with ulcers and high blood pressure.

"When life gives you lemons, make margharitas!"

Member/founder of the IHSA clique!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the funniest Thred I have ever seen! This is quite amusing and makes me laugh. Thanks everyone for giving me a funny moment. Everyone is fighting over what they like and what they dont. Who cares... we all have our own opinions! I hate TBs, people love them. I like the GPAs, some people hate them. Is fighting over this going to change a life... nah!

SunshineGA
Nov. 28, 2003, 07:03 PM
I think if people didn't have thir own opinions life would be pretty dull and I doubt much would gt accomplished.

I care about having my own opinion!http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm not fighting either... you'd know if I was fighting http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif just discussing (hence the "discussion" forum)

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Little Indian
Nov. 28, 2003, 10:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by girlsnotgrey:
One trend that I noticed at the Spruce Meadows HArvest Classic last month was some Mikmar bit designed by Ludger Beerbaum, blah blah blah. I don't mind people following most trends, but a bit trend is something that I believe to be appaling. More than half of the horses wearing this bit didn't require a bit this harsh, and only about 10% of the riders had good enough hands for a bit of that severity.
I JUST HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST!!!1 http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

have you ever felt one of these bits? they are lighter than my happy mouths. have a copper roller in them. they are made for an amature hand and are not really all that severe at all. request a video and maybe learn about what you're saying before you bad mouth the bit http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
and horsey mama....no fake nails, normally don't give a crap as to what my hair looks like (stick it up and go, or straighten it the night before and leave). started wearing a net BEFORE i started showing (hmmm 12 years ago!) if you only knew how otheres were precieving your comments, i think you'd be pretty embarressed.. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif
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[This message was edited by Little Indian on Nov. 29, 2003 at 01:36 AM.]

MissCapitalSplash
Nov. 29, 2003, 04:18 AM
Haha. I wear a hairnet all the time. At home, for lessons, and especially for show.
I hate flyaway hairs, and I have very short hair, so a hairnet is necessary. I also have pink hair so I need to use 4 dark brown hairnets to cover that up when riding/showing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Sure, pigtails and ponytails look cute on kids. But I personally love the hairnet look http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If riding were all blue ribbons and bright lights, I would have quit long ago.
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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 29, 2003, 06:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SunshineGA:
I think if people didn't have thir own opinions life would be pretty dull and I doubt much would gt accomplished.

I care about having my own opinion!http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm not fighting either... you'd know if I was fighting http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif just discussing (hence the "discussion" forum)

"When life gives you lemons, make margharitas!"

Member/founder of the IHSA clique!

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Sorry Sunshine... I was going to say something about what you said and I changed my mind. I forgot to delete the qoute. hahaha

Justin
Nov. 29, 2003, 06:02 AM
I sure can feel my hairnet. That thing hurts like hell! I always tear it off my head the second I am done showing.

LargeJuniorHunter
Nov. 29, 2003, 07:15 AM
Just breathe people --- its a hairnet--- thats better - innnnn and oooout. Its a piece of string ---- were all gonna be ok. If ya don't like them, don't wear them. If you do like them, then wear it. Opinions are great ---- but lets choose or battles wisely. (A.K.A. I know hairnets are a HUGE deal and all but - I think whether we tip our grooms is so much more important. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif)

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LargeJuniorHunter
Nov. 29, 2003, 07:17 AM
And just as a side note, I feel that while hairnets keep your hair nice in tidy, I have found ways to do the same without one - and I'm sure that the hairnet is not supposed to be noticed, so why wear one where it is not needed.

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Sooperspeshal
Nov. 29, 2003, 07:44 AM
I think that riding without a hairnet Is more trouble than it's worth with trying to keep it all under the hat and everything.

I mean, everyone's saying it's dorky to wear a hairnet, and it is I'll agree with that, but it's sort of impossible to NOT look dorky with socks or boots up to your knees, a choker up to your chin and a show jacket on in 80 degree weather anyway so the hairnet would just be one more thing right?

I'm not saying that those are bad things and I want to get rid of them or anything, but if we want to look good and place in a class we're going to have to wear what would be considered ugly by people who don't ride. Am I right here?

Anyway one thing I HATE in the show ring is black horses with orange saddles and bridles. Icky icky. (When I get my new saddle I'll probably be quite the hypocrite, too because it might start out orange and take a while to darken up but I dont care I hate it anyway.)

Horseymama
Nov. 29, 2003, 08:41 AM
I'm not as serious as I sound, girls, just bored on a Friday night trying to get you all excited! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Hairnets just happen to be my silly, personal pet peeve, but in the big scheme of things, I really don't give a crap!

Anyway now it's Sat morning, gotta go to the barn! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

easyjumper1
Nov. 29, 2003, 08:49 AM
How about a Ponytail Liberation Front? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Fly ponytail, fly! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

CanadianGolden
Nov. 29, 2003, 08:58 AM
I agree that hairnets are NOT a trend. I have been showing for about 8 years (I know it's not that long, but even so) and I have always been made to wear a hairnet, even when I had very long hair. I hated wearing them and complained, but they do keep my hair away from my face. I think they are more of a tradition than a trend.

Forgot to add-- I also cannot fit my hair/head in my helmet without a hairnet because if I try to braid it or pin it up it makes a big bump that won't fit into the helmet. And hey, I'm a dressage rider, I take care of my own horse, I do the work at shows, so don't give me any long nails foofy comments. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

eqnjumperrider
Nov. 29, 2003, 09:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Oh you pooor babies. I feel so sorry for you. "_Oh my hair might look awefully out of place without my hairnet, oh me oh my._"Are you the kind of girls with long fake fingernails, too? I love that you are "defending" wearing a Hairnet!

P.S. The way you make something look good is by feeling good in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
-----------------------------------------------I like wearing a hairnet, because it looks more polished and put together. I also have fake nails http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif (not long ones). I have those because they look good, is that bad too?

Bluesy
Nov. 29, 2003, 10:20 AM
I could care less about the colors...In my personal opinion, have fun with it! Why not? They may not be for everyone, but why make a big deal out of it if it suits someone else? Reminds me of a Tom Robbins quote "Lighten up".

Hairnets: don't care. I've never used one- just used tons of hairspray http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif which is probably more uncomfy than a hairnet. Have thought about getting one though.

GPA's- I need a new helmet and have been considering a GPA. I personally could care less what the helmet looked like, as long it is functional, fits and is comfy.

Okay, I agree with:

-Prices! Holy Man-Eating-Cow, must everything be so expensive? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif
-Too short/decorative martingales.
-Trendy bits. Okay, I admit, I am talking about the Mikmar. But I'm not going to argue with anybody about them. I agree that they might be great for some horse, but they are not for others.
-NOT western colored shirts/jackets, but as somone suggested, dark/classy colors & color coordinated to your pony would be a nice change.
-Piano hands http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif AUGH! "A" frame people! "A" frame. Colors and outfits do not affect the horse.(Unless he's scared of your outfit http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) This does.

Something I can't stand and seems to be a new trend(at least in my barn):
PRINCESSES!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I hate TBs, people love them <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> GASP! Bad Louey! How can you hate this face? (http://community.webshots.com/photo/67917492/67920860YQdsIH) He's coming to get you.... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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jamz
Nov. 29, 2003, 10:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eqnjumperrider:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Oh you pooor babies. I feel so sorry for you. "_Oh my hair might look awefully out of place without my hairnet, oh me oh my._"Are you the kind of girls with long fake fingernails, too? I love that you are "defending" wearing a Hairnet!

P.S. The way you make something look good is by feeling good in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
-----------------------------------------------I like wearing a hairnet, because it looks more polished and put together. I also have fake nails http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif (not long ones). I have those because they look good, is that bad too?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

eqnjumperrider, what's your real name? I sold my pony years back to someone in your area.

On another topic, could I get more feedback from people using Mikmar bits? I've had my horse for 3 years and I still can't find a bit that he goes really well in. I find that using a type with a moving mouthpiece does not give me enough control, but a gag almost gives me almost too much when using only one pair of reins.. he is very rammy in his gag. I like the way he carries himself in the first bit I described, but it's just not good when he sees the actual fence, then he's off to the races! haha

Pic of him in the bit with the moving mouthpiece: http://openshoebox.com/images/44606

and the gag: http://openshoebox.com/images/44613

Just so you know exactly which bits I'm talking about. Any info on the Mikmars would be appreciated. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thanks. Sorry this post is off topic.

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jamz
Nov. 29, 2003, 10:26 AM
Bluesy.. you have such a cute horse! ahwww..

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Bluesy
Nov. 29, 2003, 10:38 AM
http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thank you jamz! He's my pride and joy http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

One other thing that irks me:

Seesawing hands! I even find myself doing it and have to force myself to keep my hands quiet!

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jamz
Nov. 29, 2003, 10:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bluesy:
http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thank you jamz! He's my pride and joy http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

One other thing that irks me:

Seesawing hands! I even find myself doing it and have to force myself to keep my hands quiet!

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Ah! That bugs me too. I wonder where it gets started, I catch myself doing it sometimes too. Bad seasawing, very bad! :\

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SunshineGA
Nov. 29, 2003, 01:45 PM
But LargeJuniorHunter.... what else am I supposed to argue about if I don't havea groom??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

And if y'all think this a battle taken seriously by me and hosey then y'all need a life... what am I supposed to do when I'm bored? crib?

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Rifter
Nov. 29, 2003, 03:08 PM
I wear the top of control top pantyhose on my head AND a hairnet. How do you like that? I have no hair (literally... my head is shaved) and I <3 ear flaps, so that's the secret http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Come on, in what other sport could you were control top pantyhose on your head??

I'm baaaack http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SunshineGA
Nov. 29, 2003, 03:13 PM
LOL Rifter, thats great!

BTW- I have also heard of people wearing panty-liners in their helmets to prevent sweat from dripping in their eyes in super hot summers! Try that one on for size (imagine that slipping out of your helmet in the hack!)

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Rifter
Nov. 29, 2003, 03:17 PM
Sunshine,

I used to do that right after I shaved my head and before I figured out the pantyhose secret because my helmet didn't fit properly anymore without all my hair. Except I couldn't just wear a thin panty-liner. I actually had to wear a full on Maxi pad. HAHA. Needless to say, I got a few laughs in the locker room before lessons http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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SunshineGA
Nov. 29, 2003, 03:31 PM
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif I wouldn't have looked at ya funny! maybe...

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Nov. 29, 2003, 04:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bluesy:
I could care less about the colors...In my personal opinion, have fun with it! Why not? They may not be for everyone, but why make a big deal out of it if it suits someone else? Reminds me of a Tom Robbins quote "Lighten up".

Hairnets: don't care. I've never used one- just used tons of hairspray http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif which is probably more uncomfy than a hairnet. Have thought about getting one though.

GPA's- I need a new helmet and have been considering a GPA. I personally could care less what the helmet looked like, as long it is functional, fits and is comfy.

Okay, I agree with:

-Prices! Holy Man-Eating-Cow, must everything be so expensive? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif
-Too short/decorative martingales.
-Trendy bits. Okay, I admit, I am talking about the Mikmar. But I'm not going to argue with anybody about them. I agree that they might be great for some horse, but they are not for others.
-NOT western colored shirts/jackets, but as somone suggested, dark/classy colors & color coordinated to your pony would be a nice change.
-_Piano hands_ http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif AUGH! "A" frame people! "A" frame. Colors and outfits do not affect the horse.(Unless he's scared of your outfit http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) This does.

Something I can't stand and seems to be a new trend(at least in my barn):
PRINCESSES!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I hate TBs, people love them <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> GASP! Bad Louey! How can you hate http://community.webshots.com/photo/67917492/67920860YQdsIH He's coming to get you.... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Lol... That is a cute horse!! I guess like all the TBs I have known are INSANE. I guess all the ones I have known were raced so they are a little hot. But thats a cutie little horse you got there http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.. I was the one about the western colors... dark classy colors. I didnt actually mean the western thing... lol! In one of those WHOOPS moods. I think that burgandy or purple, i dunno, something like that would be soooo neat. Im the type of person that LOVES color, and lots of it! hahaha... I dont think Im going to sleep tonight!! Your horse might come and get me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Pigglet
Nov. 29, 2003, 05:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Oh you pooor babies. I feel so sorry for you. "_Oh my hair might look awefully out of place without my hairnet, oh me oh my._"Are you the kind of girls with long fake fingernails, too? I love that you are "defending" wearing a Hairnet!

P.S. The way you make something look good is by feeling good in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, no. I detest fake finger nails. They're too hard to do anything with.

But hey, each to his (her) own. Can we agree to disagree about this hairnet issue? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

-Nicole-

AHorseSomeDay
Nov. 29, 2003, 06:35 PM
I use hairnets when I show because if I don't, then my hair will end up sticking out of the hat and it won't look good. I know a lot of people who wear hairnets while schooling and I have no idea why they do that. Most people at my barn wear hairnets and a lot of people have GPA's, myself included. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

spina
Nov. 29, 2003, 07:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SR27: I know a lot of people who wear hairnets while schooling and I have no idea why they do that. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably the same reason they wear a clean shirt and polish their boots before schooling - so their horse won't be embarassed.

Downpour
Nov. 29, 2003, 09:19 PM
RUST anything!!!

Plumcreek
Nov. 30, 2003, 12:36 AM
I'm pretty sure that hairnets are not a fad. They were/are proper to wear in the hunt field so they evolved into the hunter ring. I started wearing one when I started showing *ahem* 40 years ago - it was not an option then.

Fake tails - Oh please no! I show QH and, these days, you "have" to have one on a horse that has a THICK tail. The "big hair" look lives on the QH circuit - plus it takes way too long to fool with the tail extensions. (I do use three tiny ones on my horse that has almost no tail.) Ditto banding manes - those silly weatern riders had it made. Now they take almost as much time banding as the english people do braiding.

perf
Nov. 30, 2003, 01:05 AM
I love the look of false tails! But the last time I tried to put one in I failed so badly that I never tried again (I think it fell out as soon as my pony started walking OOPS!).

And I love hairnets! Keeps all that stupid wispy hair out of my face - you'll never catch me using hairspray & getting sticky hairspray residue all over the inside of my helmet (yuck!). Although I'm seen some pics of people with really solid looking hairnets, almost look like they're made of wool, they scare me! I like those wispy ones that you can hardly see.

One fashion I'd like to see is control breeches! But that's just because I have a pokey out tummy and butt!

All up I don't mind fads, they make things interesting and fun. The thing I hate is when people feel like they HAVE to have everything that is in fashion. Fashion victims of the horse world I guess?

Bluesy
Nov. 30, 2003, 10:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:

I guess like all the TBs I have known are INSANE. I guess all the ones I have known were raced so they are a little hot. But thats a cutie little horse you got there http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.. I was the one about the western colors... dark classy colors. I didnt actually mean the western thing... lol! In one of those WHOOPS moods. I think that burgandy or purple, i dunno, something like that would be soooo neat. Im the type of person that LOVES color, and lots of it! hahaha... I dont think Im going to sleep tonight!! Your horse might come and get me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Isn't that funny? I guess all of the TB's I know/have known have been utter saints. (Including my guy) And most of them have been off the track (including my guy). That must be why they are my favorite breed. But if as you said, I had only known crazy ones, they probably wouldn't top my list http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Zaboobafoo
Nov. 30, 2003, 02:29 PM
You want me to where my hair without a hairnet or down???

Ok, my hair is THICK, all one length but with TONS of fly-aways....I can't even put it in a ponytail because it flys away so much...and goes all the down my back. I can't even go to the gym with it just in a ponytail because its so long and thick, it sticks to my back and neck when I sweat, and its really nasty.

Use hairspray or mousse instead? Do ya'll know how BAD that stuff is for your hair??? I LOVE my hair and LOATHE putting chemicals in it...I'd much rather slap on a hairnet that will calmly tame my hair without damaging it!

Oh, and by the way, whoever it was who started this agreement just for fun and doesn't really feel strongly about it, thats called trolling...find other ways to cure your boredom, please.

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Anyplace Farm
Nov. 30, 2003, 04:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pigglet:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Oh you pooor babies. I feel so sorry for you. "_Oh my hair might look awefully out of place without my hairnet, oh me oh my._"Are you the kind of girls with long fake fingernails, too? I love that you are "defending" wearing a Hairnet!

P.S. The way you make something look good is by feeling good in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, no. I detest fake finger nails. They're too hard to do anything with.

But hey, each to his (her) own. Can we agree to disagree about this hairnet issue? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

-Nicole-<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oooo! Ooo! I am a big hairnet freak. I've told all my kids they must wear them for every ride and if they do, they will be 'in'. Just kidding.

I used to not have to wear one when my hair was really long w/no layers. I just can't stand to have an errant hair drifting around, getting caught in my bubble gum pink lip gloss (kidding again).

I definitely can't stand to see my kids w/whacked out hair. I just don't do the disheveled look well.

And on fake nails...git wit da program, sistah! I have really, really thin nails that tear down to the quick while I'm trying to do up girths, do up nosebands, etc. Used to just get a basic manicure to keep them looking decent. At some point or another, there is no 'decent' about every single one of them being torn down to the nub. My manicurist talked me into gels. You'd never know. I keep them short like model length (no, models don't wear long nails) which is basically just slightly longer than well-manicured-executive length and I have a great set of nails on a daily basis.

Hair nets & fake nails....life is good. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Silver Skates
Nov. 30, 2003, 04:44 PM
I cant really talk for the colourful-ness! i have a hot pink show shirt that looked quite nice with my dark grey jacket on my grey horse, i actually got a lot of positive comments from other coaches and riders, and yes i did the hunters, i have a gpa, no coloured stripe, hot pink and purple and green plad polos (which i would never wear to shows) and really need to get my hands on pink eskadrons!!! i love seeing more colour come into the hunter/jumper world it adds personality to horse/rider combinations. i mean honestly im tired of 17.2hh bays with four socks and a blaze that all look identical with identical riders..comeon add a little style and personality!!!

when it comes to riding style however...

*release for god sakes!!!!
*make sure your horse is *show worthy* clean, no dirty legs, shavings in their tail...big pet peeve!!
*i hate how people can be rude in the warmup ring...have some etiquit (dont ask me how to spell!!)
*another thing i have noticed especially with "teens" is they can be rather rude to the "back gate peson" this is extremely disrespectful.
*i wish mylers were legal in the hunter ring (in Canada they arent i dont know about the states)
*i wish prices are lower, i usually have to buy things myself if i want them

*Lesley&Skates*

Canterbury
Nov. 30, 2003, 05:59 PM
Stupidity

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LargeJuniorHunter
Nov. 30, 2003, 07:19 PM
I just remembered my absolute biggest pet peeve! I HATE it on schooling day for a show when certain riders yell "HEADS UP SINGLE/DIAGONAL/OUTSIDE!" When no one is even close to where they are jumping. It's like - its great that you don't want to run into our precious horses, but do you really have to announce to us which jump will be graced with your presence next?

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fleur
Nov. 30, 2003, 07:46 PM
uh, largejuniorhunter, don't you think it's good to know where a cantering horse is going to be going next? i'd rather have them announce it when no one is there than not and have someone go into their path!

Janet
Nov. 30, 2003, 08:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rifter:
I wear the top of control top pantyhose on my head AND a hairnet. How do you like that? I have no hair (literally... my head is shaved) and I <3 ear flaps, so that's the secret http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Come on, in what other sport could you were control top pantyhose on your head??

I'm baaaack http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Me too. But I have the opposite situation- LOTS of hair. Too much for a regular hairnet to contain. And it won't stay in a rubber band moer thatn 30 minutes.

Janet
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EQrider3885
Nov. 30, 2003, 08:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Oh you pooor babies. I feel so sorry for you. "_Oh my hair might look awefully out of place without my hairnet, oh me oh my._"Are you the kind of girls with long fake fingernails, too? I love that you are "defending" wearing a Hairnet!

P.S. The way you make something look good is by feeling good in it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To start this off, I am not "defending hairnets...simply stating my opinion on the topic.
I do not think, by any means, is the hairnet a trend. I do not wear them because "everyone else does", I wear them to keep my hair out of my face, and in place under my helmet. The hair-not-in-place-due-to-lack-of-hairnet look should never, ever enter the Equitation ring. Like someone earlier posted, the EQ ring is a place of tradition...which includes looking nice, and tidy. As for your nice comment on fake fingernails. I wear them occaisionally, if I have something nice to go to i.e banquet, wedding, dance... yet I keep them short enough so that I can function with them on.

And by the way, not having my hair wisping and flying out from under my helmet makes me feel good...so wouldn't I be making hairnets look good? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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eqnjumperrider
Nov. 30, 2003, 10:16 PM
I agree with Eqrider :-D

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 1, 2003, 04:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Silver Skates:
I cant really talk for the colourful-ness! i have a hot pink show shirt that looked quite nice with my dark grey jacket on my grey horse, i actually got a lot of positive comments from other coaches and riders, and yes i did the hunters, i have a gpa, no coloured stripe, hot pink and purple and green plad polos (which i would never wear to shows) and really need to get my hands on pink eskadrons!!! i love seeing more colour come into the hunter/jumper world it adds personality to horse/rider combinations. i mean honestly im tired of 17.2hh bays with four socks and a blaze that all look identical with identical riders..comeon add a little style and personality!!!

when it comes to riding style however...

*release for god sakes!!!!
*make sure your horse is *show worthy* clean, no dirty legs, shavings in their tail...big pet peeve!!
*i hate how people can be rude in the warmup ring...have some etiquit (dont ask me how to spell!!)
*another thing i have noticed especially with "teens" is they can be rather rude to the "back gate peson" this is extremely disrespectful.
*i wish mylers were legal in the hunter ring (in Canada they arent i dont know about the states)
*i wish prices are lower, i usually have to buy things myself if i want them

*Lesley&Skates*<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree 110%!!! Thats what I was trying to say about the color! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Nauset
Dec. 1, 2003, 05:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
I guess all the ones I have known were raced so they are a little hot <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't know if someone else already replied to this because I'm not going to go through and read the rest of this http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif So- I'm hoping you know this but NOT all TB's that race are hot! The only horses I've ever owned have all been OTTB's and not one of them was HOT in the slightest. URGGGGGG Not even gonna go any further...

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SunshineGA
Dec. 1, 2003, 08:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zaboobafoo:
You want me to where my hair without a hairnet or down???

Ok, my hair is THICK, all one length but with TONS of fly-aways....I can't even put it in a ponytail because it flys away so much...and goes all the down my back. I can't even go to the gym with it just in a ponytail because its so long and thick, it sticks to my back and neck when I sweat, and its really nasty.

Use hairspray or mousse instead? Do ya'll know how BAD that stuff is for your hair??? I LOVE my hair and LOATHE putting chemicals in it...I'd much rather slap on a hairnet that will calmly tame my hair without damaging it!

Oh, and by the way, whoever it was who started this agreement just for fun and doesn't really feel strongly about it, thats called trolling...find other ways to cure your boredom, please.

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A) I totally agree with you about having long thick hair... Im in the same boat....

and

B) Im the one who posted that about not taking it seriously... not for "fun". I will admit I was a bit offended by the fake fingernails crap and how Im afraid to have a hair out of place... BUT I am also not sitting over here plotting my revenge to horsey... just because I'm not taking it seriously doesn't mean I'm having fun and just doing it to piss people off. I thought the whole point of having a discussion forum was to have FRIENDLY debates/discussions about topics were interested in....

But I could be wrong here.

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SillyMillie
Dec. 1, 2003, 10:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nikkibaby27:
1. Tall boots on children 12 and under.
2. Too long stirrups.
3. Grossly exaggerated releases and no releases.

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I'm with ya there on the tall boot thing. What happened to the cute little garter look? And who wants to buy a new pair of tall boots every six months for their growing child?

Daventry
Dec. 1, 2003, 10:44 AM
1. GPA's

2. Rust breeches.

3. Hipster breeches. (what the hell?!?)

4. Riders in the pony hunters that are too old for pigtails! (The rules should clearly state that if the rider is wearing a training bra, pigtails are not allowed http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif)

5. Matching fluorescent polo wraps, etc.

6. Schooling chaps and jeans in the warm-up rings.

7. Loose chinstraps on helmets & on horses.

8. No jackets in the jumpers.

9. The next trend setting saddle, that everyone must have, with no thought as to whether it actually fits your horse.

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LargeJuniorHunter
Dec. 1, 2003, 12:36 PM
Fleur- I guess I didn't make my post very clear, sorry bout that. I guess what irks me is the way they SCREAM in such an arrogant - "get out of my way cause I am coming through" type of tone. But about not wanting to jump on top of other horses - I usually school later when very few people are in the ring. Therefore, I find it quite irritating when the only other two people in the ring are on opposite sides of the person jumping... its just tacky and not necessary to tell us their next jump.

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 1, 2003, 01:19 PM
I am in Long Stirrup and there was this girl that was probably 15 years old and she still had the little pig tails with ribbon. I thought that was kind of wierd!!

Sam... I dont like TB all that much, and that is fine if you want to disagree but the way you wrote it made it sound like you were yelling. That is my OWN personal opinion. I know that all raced TBs arent hot. I knew quite a few that were nice... One horse reared with my friend, almost trampled her, and was a complete NUT!!! She was off the track. Again, I KNOW that not all OTTBs are hot, but most of the ones I know are! It is my own personal opinion and what you say isnt going to change my mind.

SunshineGA
Dec. 1, 2003, 01:28 PM
15 yrs old... pigtails with ribbon? yuck!

I agree with all about rust breeches! blech! But those have been gone forever... right????

BTW- I love TBs http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The best horses I've ever had were TBs http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif love 'em! And I hate appys, but again this is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I think...

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fleur
Dec. 1, 2003, 02:03 PM
thanks for clarifying, largejuniorhunter! i definitely hear what you are saying.

Janet
Dec. 1, 2003, 02:27 PM
20 + braids

"Spagetti strap" bridles

Raised and stitched bridles.

But I wouldn't call hair nets a "trend" they have been de rigeur for showing in the US for at least 40 years.

Janet
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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 1, 2003, 05:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SunshineGA:
15 yrs old... pigtails with ribbon? yuck!

I agree with all about rust breeches! blech! But those have been gone forever... right????

BTW- I love TBs http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The best horses I've ever had were TBs http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif love 'em! And I hate appys, but again this is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I think...

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Your right, you are entitled to your opinion. Thats fine that you hate appys! i just hate it when people have to scream and rub it in your face when they disagree. Why dont you like Appys??

It was funny, the poor girl was gettin some looks. Unfortunatly, I never got to wear pigtails and ribbon?! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

Va2Ga
Dec. 1, 2003, 05:41 PM
I know this has been said but... NO CHILD oN SMALL PONYS SHOULD HAVE TALL BOOTS!!!!!!! I t drives me crazy to see a small child with tall boots.

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 1, 2003, 06:28 PM
Yeah, the tall boot thing on little kids looks kind of wierd. I think that the little kids look cute on thier small welsh ponies with little braids and paddck boots.http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Pigglet
Dec. 1, 2003, 06:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anyplace Farm:
And on fake nails...git wit da program, sistah! I have really, really thin nails that tear down to the quick while I'm trying to do up girths, do up nosebands, etc. Used to just get a basic manicure to keep them looking decent. At some point or another, there is no 'decent' about every single one of them being torn down to the nub. My manicurist talked me into gels. You'd never know. I keep them short like model length (no, models don't wear long nails) which is basically just slightly longer than well-manicured-executive length and I have a great set of nails on a daily basis.

Hair nets & fake nails....life is good. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Oooh... Methinks I must try these!! Thanks. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Simply Christie
Dec. 1, 2003, 07:56 PM
Top Hats....I know they look pretty and I love tradition, but they are just not safe. One thing that is certain, none of us ever know what is going to happen. We should all take safety as our number 1 concern! JMHO! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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SCAllstarzHntrRyder
Dec. 1, 2003, 08:23 PM
This MIGHT have been said.. haha and PLEASE dont yell at me. But those stirrups with the bendable bottom part...I know FEW people that accually need them for medical reasons.... like tendon and knee problems....i have ridden in them and i have no need for them medical wise.... and they didnt do anything special for my leg or heel.. so WHY wear them????

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FrittSkritt
Dec. 1, 2003, 08:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Simply Christie:
Top Hats....I know they look pretty and I love tradition, but they are just not safe. One thing that is certain, none of us ever know what is going to happen. We should all take safety as our number 1 concern! JMHO! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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jamz
Dec. 1, 2003, 09:15 PM
Wow... you guys sure hate a lot of things..

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jamz
Dec. 1, 2003, 09:25 PM
Again, I feel the need to defend yet another 'trend'. Low-rise breeches. We all talk about how it is important to have tack and clothing that fits, and is comfortable for both the horse and rider. The low rise breeches have a length with a rise around 9 3/4 inches to 10 1/4 inches, where as regular rise breeches are 12 inches or longer. This is a trend that is highly misunderstood. People are built differently, breeches fit everyone differently. For myself, breeches 12 inches and up don't cut it. They often come to my boobs, and that is fairly irritating, as you may imagine. I have never tried low-rise breeches, but I plan to as soon as my old breeches wear out. Then I will not have to roll down my other breeches three times to make them sit comfortably on my waist. It's a very silly thing to say this is some sort of scandolous piece of clothing, because it isn't. Just like the regular rise breeches, it will fit many ladies well, and not fit others at all. It all depends on the build of the particular person.

Think about it: why would well respected brand names come out with such a product if it looked tacky? They are made to fit people who do not fit the regular rise breeches, not for people who fit the regular rise breeches to show their butt cracks.

I would agree that low-rise breeches are wrong for some people, just like regular-rise breeches are wrong for others.

http://www.kellystackshop.com/sigmabreeches.html

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Finzean
Dec. 1, 2003, 09:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Dear EQrider3885, Finzean, PoloPony257, and anyone else who thinks hairnets are beautiful...Ick, silly, makes you look like you would do anything to fit in with "the crowd."

I have ridden hunters and jumpers on the A circuit for 15 years and can proudly say that I have never succumb to the hairnet trend. I have long, layered hair and even though I don't wear a hairnet, I have also never had strands flying out from under my helmet either. (Oh my gosh, is it possible without a hairnet?) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I know a lot of you teenage girls have a hard time with the hairnet thing because _everybody else does it_, but I encourage you to make your own decisions, un-influenced by the rest of "the crowd."

I mean really, a _hairnet?_ Sure wouldn't make me feel like an athlete, just a dork.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, Horseymama, honey, bless your little ol' heart. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I am hardly a teenager and certainly have never succumbed to the hair net trend. And, yeah, they sure are beautiful...that's why those of us who choose to wear them do so. It is, like many of the riding accoutrements we all use, a question of tidyness and function. You've truly flattered me....first time I've ever found myself included in "the crowd".

Sign me, Feeling athletic enough in a hair net to kick a$$......

Fine I give up, do it your way: heels up, eyes down!!

easyjumper1
Dec. 2, 2003, 02:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jamz:
Wow... you guys sure hate a lot of things..

http://xjamzx.cjb.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking the same thing http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Wouldn't it be plain boring without all the stuff you can put on your jumper? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SunshineGA
Dec. 2, 2003, 06:12 AM
I Love Louey-

I have only liked one appy, but he looked like a wramblood with spots (Fuzzy Logic, anyone heard of him?). Other than that I have just never really cared for them. There are a few I have...have... (shall I dare say it?)... *liked* but they had to earn my respect http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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SunshineGA
Dec. 2, 2003, 06:15 AM
Oh yeah, and the tall boot thing on small ponies has always bugged me! I had friends on the circuit when I was doing the smalls that had them and I had to ride in paddocks and garters. It made me mad then (for obviously a diff. reason... I wanted to wear them too!).

But now I realize how ridiculous it looks and how unpractical it is... I mean sheesh kids GROW! Its hard enough to keep their everyday wardrobe up (pants long enough, shoes big enough) without having to buy new TSs and custom vogels for them every 3 months.

I wish one of those kids's parents would adopt me!

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 2, 2003, 12:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by easyjumper1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jamz:
Wow... you guys sure hate a lot of things..

http://xjamzx.cjb.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking the same thing http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Wouldn't it be plain boring without all the stuff you can put on your jumper? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hahaha... Your right, we do! Eh, its fun to complaine!

SunshineGA -- Yeah appys can be very very stubborn, but once you get to know them and everything they are the best! With appys its eiher they are GOOD or they are BAD. Theres like no inbetween.

critter915
Dec. 2, 2003, 01:46 PM
I don't mind a lot of things, and I don't mind tall boots on little kids, but i really hate when they are 12 years old and wearing vogels. But then, that may be jealousy http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 2, 2003, 05:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by critter915:
I don't mind a lot of things, and I don't mind tall boots on little kids, but i really hate when they are 12 years old and wearing vogels. But then, that may be jealousy http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What are Vogels?? hahaha... I hope that doesnt sound stupid.

HuntJumpSC
Dec. 2, 2003, 08:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:

What are Vogels?? hahaha... I hope that doesnt sound stupid.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They're expensive custom boots...and I still kick myself for selling my brown ones http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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Dec. 3, 2003, 04:08 AM
Oh, ok! what does A/O hunter stand for? I am sooooo slow on this abbreviating stuff. I just figured out what GM ment. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

HuntJumpSC... On your little signature thing, what does Flyign Horsewomen Clique mean? hahaha... It reminds me of the Flying Frenchmen.http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jamz
Dec. 3, 2003, 06:28 AM
I think it means Amateur Owner.. we don't have those type of classes in Canada.. but I think that's what it stands for.

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HuntJumpSC
Dec. 3, 2003, 07:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
Oh, ok! what does A/O hunter stand for? I am sooooo slow on this abbreviating stuff. I just figured out what GM ment. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

HuntJumpSC... On your little signature thing, what does Flyign Horsewomen Clique mean? hahaha... It reminds me of the Flying Frenchmen.http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It means I'm a pilot, there's only a couple of us clique members on here that I know of, me & PoloPony257 http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

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sesroh
Dec. 3, 2003, 07:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>6. Schooling chaps and jeans in the warm-up rings. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wear chaps in the schooling ring in the morning when I am schooling before the show. I don't think it is that bad. I just don't like to get dirty. At a show last summer I got dumped in the mud when schooling in the morning and I was sure glad I was just wearing my chaps and not my boots and breeches yet!

Also, if during the day I take one of my horses out to be ridden that isn't showing that day, I will always wear chaps. I guess I don't see any reason to dirty up the breeches and have another expense at the dry cleaners.

FrittSkritt
Dec. 3, 2003, 07:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Dear EQrider3885, Finzean, PoloPony257, and anyone else who thinks hairnets are beautiful...Ick, silly, makes you look like you would do anything to fit in with "the crowd."

I have ridden hunters and jumpers on the A circuit for 15 years and can proudly say that I have never succumb to the hairnet trend. I have long, layered hair and even though I don't wear a hairnet, I have also never had strands flying out from under my helmet either. (Oh my gosh, is it possible without a hairnet?) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I know a lot of you teenage girls have a hard time with the hairnet thing because _everybody else does it_, but I encourage you to make your own decisions, un-influenced by the rest of "the crowd."

I mean really, a _hairnet?_ Sure wouldn't make me feel like an athlete, just a dork.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Haha, me, a teenager? I'm not a HP at all, but if I showed without a hairnet... gah! You wouldn't be able to see my face! (Think a blonde Cousin It.) Trust me, I hate 'em too, but there's no way my hair will stay under my helmet without one. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

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eclipse
Dec. 3, 2003, 07:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I think it means Amateur Owner.. we don't have those type of classes in Canada.. but I think that's what it stands for.
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Actually we do have these types of classes in Canada. On the A circuit, the 3ft6 hunters are for Amateur Owners only.

"errr, ummm, oomph.....brain fart"!!

Janet
Dec. 3, 2003, 08:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I mean really, a _hairnet?_ Sure wouldn't make me feel like an athlete, just a dork. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Riding with hair in my eyes, ears, and mouth certainly doesn't make ME feel like an athlete.

My choices are braided and folded over like a sewn in braid (which is what I do for schooling, jumpers, dressage, and eventing- but even then I use a hairnet at shows, or a bandana when schooling, to keep the wisps out of my eyes), or multiple hairnets (which is what I do for hunters).

And the term "trend" usually implies something of relatively recent introduction. Hairnets for swhowing have been around a LOONG time. No "trend" there.

Janet
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LargeJuniorHunter
Dec. 3, 2003, 10:54 AM
Does this thread count as a trend? *cough*cough* cause if so - I'm thinking this thread is getting long... and these "different opinions" on hairnets are getting kinda old. LoL - seriously though. I think we have fought and won our battles by now! Muah.

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 3, 2003, 12:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LargeJuniorHunter:
Does this thread count as a trend? *cough*cough* cause if so - I'm thinking this thread is getting long... and these "different opinions" on hairnets are getting kinda old. LoL - seriously though. I think we have fought and won our battles by now! Muah.

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I agree... hairnets- big deal. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

eclipse
Dec. 3, 2003, 02:20 PM
Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed big time for this one but: Pat Parelli. I've watched this kid in our barn doing his stuff, & cannot figure out:

a). why would one want to back their horse around the arena, or down an aisleway? Can't be good for the hocks or back!!
b). why on earth do they wave the lead rope in the air. Sorry but what a way to make your horse headshy. (the horse he does this to, is now even more unfriendly than before!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
c). I KNOW my mare is an alpha. I DO NOT need someone to poke her in the side, have her stand firm looking at them as if they are crazy, and then be told "oh, your horse is dominant"....no kidding sherlock!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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SunshineGA
Dec. 3, 2003, 02:23 PM
I gave up on the hairnet thing a long time ago. They're not a trend and who gives a crap anyway. I'll wear one if I want to, and chances are that from the rail, you probably can't even tell I'm wearing one. I think theyre a much better option than those hair bag things some people wear (you know the little barret with the fishnet thingy)

Sorry if some of y'all wear them, I personally don't think they are very flattering. Nuff said http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Have a great day!

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mrs.smith
Dec. 3, 2003, 02:32 PM
I once had a pair of rust breeches that fastened with all these funky buttons. DOH! What WERE those called? Like six bottons or something. Just try doing a quick pee stop in those buggers! I felt like I was wearing amish pants. I am so glad they died, and hope to never see them again!

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easyjumper1
Dec. 3, 2003, 02:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eclipse:
Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed big time for this one but: Pat Parelli. I've watched this kid in our barn doing his stuff, & cannot figure out:

a)...b)....
c). I KNOW my mare is an alpha. I DO NOT need someone to poke her in the side, have her stand firm looking at them as if they are crazy, and then be told "oh, your horse is dominant"....no kidding sherlock!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
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http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif lol! I agree. Also amazing is the amount of people who suddenly pop up and say that they invented the whole thing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

And people who call themselves paranormal horse healers, sheesh http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif . They seem to pop up out of nowhere too. A horse at our barn has been lame for the past two months now (poor horse (warmblood) was started at 2 1/2, what do you expect). The vet doesn't know what it is, I suggested going to another vet and physiotherapist for horses (but they didn't think that was necessary), so they called one of those frauds. The woman said they should leave the horse in his stall for 3 weeks and start lungeing the horse after the three weeks. Well, what do you know, the horse is still three legged lame after the three weeks. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[This message was edited by easyjumper1 on Dec. 03, 2003 at 05:50 PM.]

Bluesy
Dec. 3, 2003, 06:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eclipse:
Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed big time for this one but: Pat Parelli. I've watched this kid in our barn doing his stuff, & cannot figure out:

a). why would one want to back their horse around the arena, or down an aisleway? Can't be good for the hocks or back!!
b). why on earth do they wave the lead rope in the air. Sorry but what a way to make your horse headshy. (the horse he does this to, is now even more unfriendly than before!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
c). I KNOW my mare is an alpha. I DO NOT need someone to poke her in the side, have her stand firm looking at them as if they are crazy, and then be told "oh, your horse is dominant"....no kidding sherlock!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Bwaahahahaa eclipse, I'm glad it's not just the barn staff laughing at him. What is that wagging finger thing? BAD PONY! I shall convince you not to trample me by wagging my finger!? I don't get it.

Okay, I admit I have know ONE person who does do the whole Parelli thing, and has big success with it...but..she spends hours and hours with her horsesgoing over these things. Lets face it - not all of us have the time to spend to get the whole effect. This kid spends a couple minutes thinking he's actually teaching his horse somethine by wagging his finger at them.

and to add to eclipse's Parelli - Horse "Whisperer's" in general. I admit - some are good. Most just want the big bucks. I find, even with the good ones, going to one of their clinics will NOT make you a horse magician, especially if you don't have much experience. I find that most of the whole horse whisperer phenomena is poor substitute for pure experience, and that dealing with horses has a lot to do with feeling. (if that makes sense.)

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eclipse
Dec. 4, 2003, 08:15 AM
Bluesy, I'm just waiting for the day that he wags his finger at a horse and......the horse bites it!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

"errr, ummm, oomph.....brain fart"!!

Pocket Pony
Dec. 4, 2003, 08:41 AM
i wIsH thE PheNoMeNoN oF tYPinG *liKe ThIs* WoUld STOP

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critter915
Dec. 4, 2003, 12:54 PM
amen batgirl. and all the little lol's and jk's. omg. ok gg ttyl. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Kerby
Dec. 4, 2003, 05:09 PM
(ok.. don't hate me but...)

Sparkles, patterens and fluorescent colors.

Ok.. a small amount of sparkles is ok, maybe brushed into the tail, but when the saddlepad/ wraps/ bell boots/ ears/ showshirt are all in the same (bright) color, and all sparkly, it gets to be a bit much. (I'm talking at shows...)

Patterns. Plaid is ok, so is checkers, in subtle colors, but barn yard animals, or disney characters emblased across your saddle pad. Sure if you are 3 its cute, but not when you get older, expecially if your a mother of two!

Fluorescent colors. Helllllooooooo 80's!! a time and a place for lime greens, and traffic cone orange, but at the barn, or in lessons is not it... If you want fluorescents, try having a retro party!

ok... I'm done. Don't hate me.

Oh.. and another thing... wearing those baggy pyjama pants, under chaps. Expecially when those PJ pants follow my above three dislikes!

Oh... and another thing... Baby blue, and pale yellow... who though these would look good on horses?

ok.. now I'm done.

(and I agree with Eclipse, Critter and Batgirl, omg! I wOuLd HaTe hAvInG To ReAd tHiS aLl ThE tIMe, lol! ok, well.. g2g, ttyl, ttfn, etc. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif )

Kerby
Dec. 4, 2003, 05:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KristenB:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kirsten:
- 5 million braids being standard (damn whoever started this... those who braid their own curse your existance!)
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Amen to that! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about braids period... a nice flat mane looks just as good as 5 million braids (expecially if your horse rubs!)

becca's boys
Dec. 4, 2003, 05:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eclipse:
Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed big time for this one but: Pat Parelli. I've watched this kid in our barn doing his stuff, & cannot figure out:

a). why would one want to back their horse around the arena, or down an aisleway? Can't be good for the hocks or back!!
b). why on earth do they wave the lead rope in the air. Sorry but what a way to make your horse headshy. (the horse he does this to, is now even more unfriendly than before!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
c). I KNOW my mare is an alpha. I DO NOT need someone to poke her in the side, have her stand firm looking at them as if they are crazy, and then be told "oh, your horse is dominant"....no kidding sherlock!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"errr, ummm, oomph.....brain fart"!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay...I cannot stop laughing! Thank you for that hilarious post (the image of the kid backing the horse around the barn will keep me smiling well into the evening)!!

Kblue
Dec. 4, 2003, 05:39 PM
Standing martingales on every horse "because they're a hunter" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif That's useless.

Extra tack on horses because its "in"

People laying on horses necks, legs flying back, and hands up near ears.

Kids who hand ponies off to grooms.

1-800-Dial-A-Distance
Dec. 4, 2003, 08:19 PM
WarAdmiral: I adore color coordinating with my horse. I just think that it makes for a nice picture.

Not a fan of little kids in tall boots.

My shadbelly is lined with burgandy, I'm okay with burgandy, navy blue and maybe maybe maybe, no, not really, but i'll allow light blue. But I saw a gray shadbelly with a pink stripe and pink lining, I thought it was awful.

And while I find showing with cell phones and pagers tacky, I won't make a fuss because if one more person tells me that I'm being disrespectful keeping my pager on (it's an insulin pump people) I'm going to kill someone....

1-800

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats."

"Betwixt the stirrup and the ground, mercy I asked and mercy I found."

1-800-Dial-A-Distance
Dec. 4, 2003, 08:25 PM
Also, on the Parelli thing. I'm not sure if this is actually a Parelli trick, but it's similar. My trainer (I came to her, horse already been with me for three years,horse and I traveled all over by ourselves, loading ourselves, we have a system, I let him go at the ramp, he walks up, I put the butt bar up, close up the back, then walk to the front and tie him. When we get off, I unhook him, walk to the back, open up, let him walk off and meet him at the ramp. It works.)

Well, occasionally he'll stand a moment too long, if I so much as look at him, he's on. He does it with my trainer sometimes. So she gets out the lungewhip, taps on him, taps on him, taps on him, taps on him. Light light little taps. He just stands there and looks at her. It's ridiculous. As soon as I walk up and say "Excuse me?" he walks right on... This tap tap nonsense? maybe with a horse who is scared, or hasn't learned how, but one who's a pro at loading?? that's ridiculous...

1-800

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats."

"Betwixt the stirrup and the ground, mercy I asked and mercy I found."

nightsong
Dec. 4, 2003, 09:54 PM
I saw that "tap, tap, tap" at a John Lyons clinic. It was actually the most reasonable thing I saw there. Certainly not the "whip a horse's legs until it bleeds" thing. I didn't like that at all.

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vxf111
Dec. 4, 2003, 10:05 PM
<<Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed big time for this one but: Pat Parelli. I've watched this kid in our barn doing his stuff, & cannot figure out:>>>

AGREED! I have had my OTTB for just about three months now. From day 1 I have been asking him to back on the ground-- back into washstalls. Back up to move out of the isle and out of my way etc. When he's being pissy we even back him into the TRAILER because he backs well. Just the verbal command "back" is enough for get him to back.

Today a trainer (not mine) saw me backing him under saddle. He's not great at this yet. He'll back but also move to the side a little. When that happens I stop, collect myself, and start again. He *does* know back, he's just learning to put it all together under saddle.

Said trainer saw this. Was aghast! Horses CANNOT learn to back except with resistance free methods. (I'm wondering what horses did before Parelli). He then proceeded to assist by stepping on my horse's hooves to get him to back. That's resistance free? ANd I'm not supposed to use vocal commands or have any rein contact???

Trainer went away, I finished riding. Then I took my non-parellied horse and backed him perfectly into the wash stall just with vocal command. No toe stepping http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

~Veronica


P.S.- So far the resistance free method hasn't proven to be a breakthrough on the maniac arab mare at the barn either. But I'll hold my breath http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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MistyBlue
Dec. 5, 2003, 04:47 AM
By Eclipse:
"c). I KNOW my mare is an alpha. I DO NOT need someone to poke her in the side, have her stand firm looking at them as if they are crazy, and then be told "oh, your horse is dominant"....no kidding sherlock!! "

If I ever poked my mare in her side...she'd poke right back. And not as nicely... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif How can I tell she's dominant? When she's out in the paddock and randomly team pens and re-organizes all the horses in the paddock with her. I don't need to go around poking her and getting her annoyed. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif


Someone at my barn is into the Parelli thing and she does well with her horse with it. I will say however, she could accomplish many things MUCH faster without it. (took her 3 WEEKS to get her horse to place one hoof on a trailer ramp!)On the third week, she was trying her trailer work and someone else's instructor had showed up for a lesson. This instructor is a tradionalist, and has been around the block a few times. (and in the Olympics years ago) She stood and watched for a couple minutes, then walked over and checked the horse out. Horse wasn't scared at all, horse owner asked if she had any advice. Instructor walked to the mare's shoulder, and growled pretty loud and deep "Git!" Horse scrambled right onto the trailer and stood like a pro. Instructor told her "Don't ask, tell. And make the outside of the trailer a worse place to be than the inside for about 3 seconds." So much for pleading and tapping. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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the eleven
Dec. 5, 2003, 12:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Hair nets!!!

Reminds me of Taco Bell workers. Whats wrong with brushing your hair neatly back, maybe putting a few hair pins or barretts if you need them, but a hair net? Tacky, yucky, I can't believe so many people jump on this dorky bandwagon!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

no, i really don't think so. what's tacky and yucky is a ponytail, sorry.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own -Grateful Dead

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 5, 2003, 01:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by your mom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseymama:
Hair nets!!!

Reminds me of Taco Bell workers. Whats wrong with brushing your hair neatly back, maybe putting a few hair pins or barretts if you need them, but a hair net? Tacky, yucky, I can't believe so many people jump on this dorky bandwagon!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

no, i really don't think so. what's tacky and yucky is a ponytail, sorry.

_Sometimes we live no particular way but our own -Grateful Dead_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im not agreeing with any of you but what is tacky about a ponytail? Hair nets annoy me because they are soooooo scratchy! Pony tails are annoying because lil hair strands get loose.

jumpingthemoon
Dec. 5, 2003, 01:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kerby:
Oh... and another thing... Baby blue, and pale yellow... who though these would look good on horses?

ok.. now I'm done.

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Ohhh [embarassed face] I consider myself pretty traditional with regards to turnout and colors, but my favorite polos are BABY BLUE and they look soooooo cute on my 16.3 gray. I mean really really cute.

EStieg12
Dec. 5, 2003, 01:45 PM
I still have my unapproved helmet http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif (GASP!) but since I am buying a horse, I don't have the money to buy a new helmet right at this moment.
I haven't shown in 6 years and after this post I am scared to! ("Like, Oh-my-god she still wears her blue huntcoat and pinstrip shirt with monogrammed coller and that unapproved helmet! And her saddle doesn't have knee rolls!!! What could she POSSIBLY be thinking!" he he he.. I crack myself up! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

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fourmares
Dec. 5, 2003, 09:26 PM
I know a woman who did Parelli with her horse until she pissed him off so much that he jumped on her and broke her foot!

Anyplace Farm
Dec. 6, 2003, 05:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EStieg12:
I still have my unapproved helmet http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Welcome to my club. I have NEVER had an approved helmet. Granted, I understand the importance of the approved helmet.

If I did more over fences, I probably would but since I'm always on the ground teaching, I don't. I went hunting recently and there were several people w/o even harnesses (me included), one of them being an 80-something woman.

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Nickelodian
Dec. 6, 2003, 05:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EStieg12:
I still have my unapproved helmet http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif (GASP!) but since I am buying a horse, I don't have the money to buy a new helmet right at this moment.
I haven't shown in 6 years and after this post I am scared to! ("Like, Oh-my-god she still wears her blue huntcoat and pinstrip shirt with monogrammed coller and that unapproved helmet! And her saddle doesn't have knee rolls!!! What could she POSSIBLY be thinking!" he he he.. I crack myself up! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )
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According to a thread I started a while back, a majority of the ammys are still in unapproved. Navy coats, pinstripe shirts are a classic, they'll NEVER go out of style...so no worries. That is why I always encourage people to buy the baisics FIRST, then if they can afford it, buy all the fads of the day.

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Nickelodian
Dec. 6, 2003, 05:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SCAllstarzHntrRyder:
This MIGHT have been said.. haha and PLEASE dont yell at me. But those stirrups with the bendable bottom part...I know FEW people that accually need them for medical reasons.... like tendon and knee problems....i have ridden in them and i have no need for them medical wise.... and they didnt do anything special for my leg or heel.. so WHY wear them????
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Even with no medical problems, at the end of the day after riding 6++ horses, the joints tend to feel a bit better when riding in jointy stirrups.

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 6, 2003, 08:03 AM
i have those stirrups and they help my ankles A LOT. They are safer when you fall off too because the stirrups will bend to make sure your foot doesnt get stuck. I have ankle problems and they really really help.

Zaboobafoo
Dec. 6, 2003, 09:44 AM
Now that I am seriously heading in directions to get to back into horses, I fear what I will do without my bendy stirrups! My knees and ankles often bother me a LOT after a couple hours in the saddle, and those stirrups REALLY helped.

My ankles also did this "pop" thing. Did anyone else ever have this problem?? One of my ankles(always the right) would often like "catch" on itself, and I had to twist it around until it popped loose so I could get my heels down.

No wonder my heels got so much worse later in my career!

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the eleven
Dec. 6, 2003, 04:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nickelodian:
Navy coats, pinstripe shirts are a classic, they'll NEVER go out of style...so no worries. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i never wear my navy coat or pinstripe shirts anymore. not really that out of style, but not really in style either.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own -Grateful Dead

CallieJump
Dec. 6, 2003, 04:43 PM
i have never really considered the bendy stirrups, now that I hear about your ankle and knee problems. My ankles crack about 3-4 times a day and I cannot be on my knees for more than 3 minutes. seriously, and it's been since i started riding....*considering*

Page and Callie

Nickelodian
Dec. 6, 2003, 05:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by your mom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nickelodian:
Navy coats, pinstripe shirts are a classic, they'll NEVER go out of style...so no worries. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i never wear my navy coat or pinstripe shirts anymore. not really that out of style, but not really in style either.

_Sometimes we live no particular way but our own -Grateful Dead_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed, but I doubt you'll feel out of place in a Navy coat. Still most accepted in the Eqs I think...

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easyjumper1
Dec. 8, 2003, 11:39 AM
What about these (http://www.gpa-sport.com/4.htm)? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif They are on the pop up of the gpa website (http://www.gpa-sport.com/). Heck, maybe they'll be in style by the year 2070... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

These (http://www.gpa-sport.com/3.htm) are neat though http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 8, 2003, 12:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by easyjumper1:
What about http://www.gpa-sport.com/4.htm? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif They are on the pop up of the http://www.gpa-sport.com/. Heck, maybe they'll be in style by the year 2070... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.gpa-sport.com/3.htm are neat though http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whoa... those first 2 helmates you showed we soooooo neat! Definatly not to show in, but I liked em! I just LOVE color and those definatly have it. lol! I just dont like the "bill" of the hat, its like square. Thats a little odd

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FeistyMare
Dec. 8, 2003, 01:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *Jumping*With*A*Dream*:
What trends are you seeing in the Hunter/Jumper world that you wish would just go away?
What trends have left the Hunter/Jumper world that you are so glad have left and wouldn't want to come back?

--Veronica--

Everyone has to be something to somebody to be anybody, anybody that tries to be everything to everybody is nothing to anybody.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ronnie, you have a PT!:]

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EStieg12
Dec. 8, 2003, 01:23 PM
I really don't give a rats patoot what I look like. I will just let my new horse speak for for himself! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I should probably get an approved helmet for saftey reasons but MAN, in my opinion - GPA's are U-G-L-Y! That is totally my opinion though! For everyone who likes them - more power to ya! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I just like the traditional look.

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Hajik
Dec. 8, 2003, 01:42 PM
EStieg12

I'm with you. If the horse can do it who cares if the fashion police think the worst? My complaint about the hairnets if WHY do they have to be over the ears? Reminds me of Ruth Buzy in the old Laugh In reruns.

Hajik
Dec. 8, 2003, 01:42 PM
EStieg12

I'm with you. If the horse can do it who cares if the fashion police think the worst? My complaint about the hairnets if WHY do they have to be over the ears? Reminds me of Ruth Buzy in the old Laugh In reruns.

hideyourheart03
Dec. 23, 2003, 09:27 PM
I wish the trend outrageous colors of show coats would end!

I dont mind a dark gray, brown, or hunter green in addition to the traditional navy, but when a girl at my old barn walked in with a baby blue coat and peach shirt I was kind off ashamed that she rode at my barn! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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BigBlue
Dec. 23, 2003, 10:08 PM
i think the GPA's w/ the silver in the hunter ring looks kinda tackey. I like the black ones though. The silver are good in the jumpers.
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RabidFilly
Dec. 23, 2003, 11:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coreene:
Then again, a red coat only looks good with white breeches, which I would not even wear in the privacy of my own home.
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Oh man.. I HATE hate hate hate white breeches.. and I have to wear them for EVERY show, as my club's colors are red and white. I agree with the red jacket though, I love how they look.

(I live in Panama, so our showing is a bit different.. All members of a club must wear the same colors. 'tis odd. I'd die to be able to wear tan breeches. white.. *shudder*)

- Sandy

OverOxer
Dec. 23, 2003, 11:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RabidFilly:

Oh man.. I HATE hate hate hate white breeches.. and I have to wear them for EVERY show, as my club's colors are red and white. I agree with the red jacket though, I love how they look.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The whites make me look vaguely whalesque, I find, and only wear them at big shows or during my big classes. Anything below 4'3", I wear beige.http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I once wore my beiges to a 4'6" class and my coach nearly had an aneurysm, haha.

Anyway, more trends that I wish would die...

- Brass fittings on tack! Dear God, I just find it too flashy and hate the way it doesn't match with the stirrups. Although, mind you, I'd hate it even more if the stirrups were brass, too.
- Red, purple and other non-conventional colors on polos and boots. Saddle pads with funky designs, patterns, etc. are included in this too. I think tack should be understated. My horses only wear black and white.

I'm sure I'll think of more later.http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tollriffic
Dec. 24, 2003, 12:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CallieJump:
-leaving a heart or star shape unclipped on a horse's rump. it's just strange looking!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about Christmas Trees?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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*iLoVeLoUeY*
Dec. 24, 2003, 06:00 AM
Pnally posted by Tollriffic:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CallieJump:
_-leaving a heart or star shape unclipped on a horse's rump. it's just strange looking!_
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about Christmas Trees?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

**Proud Member of the Teen Clique**[/QUOTE]

lol... sounds good to me!

JumperChild
Dec. 24, 2003, 02:56 PM
Wish to leave:
Coral colored breeches
GPA's in the Hunter Ring
Judges who give a pony or horse they like just for thier markings 1st or 2nd in every class no matter how horrible thier performance was

- Sarah
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CallieJump
Dec. 24, 2003, 03:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *iLoVeLoUeY*:
Pnally posted by Tollriffic:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CallieJump:
_-leaving a heart or star shape unclipped on a horse's rump. it's just strange looking!_
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about Christmas Trees?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

**Proud Member of the Teen Clique**<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've never seen a Christmas Tree, I would never humiliate my horse like that!

I personally don't like those jammies/sleezys. A girl was riding her pony with those on. They were black with a bunch of ugly colors on them. My coach just said as we were pulling in, "poor horse!".

Page and Callie

HuntJumpSC
Dec. 24, 2003, 06:16 PM
I saw a pony with a Christmas tree clipped on her rump at a show. They had decorated it with little stickers...thought it was pretty cute! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

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Scootie
Dec. 25, 2003, 06:48 AM
Coral Colored Breeches!?!

Oooooooooooooooo... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

However, with all the "mature" ladies with their "mature" figures starting/getting back into riding these days, I doubt coral breeches will ever go but so far. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

Of course it might be fun to have some to school in. This from a "mature figured", supposedly mature person who is not about to attempt to make a fashion statement on horseback! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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EqTrainer
Dec. 25, 2003, 07:08 AM
Is Parelli a trend? I wish it would die.

HARROLDhasmyheart
Dec. 25, 2003, 11:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jezebel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LargeJuniorHunter:
Three letters: G.P.A. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Founder of: "Non-GPA owners" clique
Member of: "I got left out of the ponies" clique<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Along with the sparkly stripes........... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

and the stripes with pictures...they're ridiculous! i was at a show and a couple of girls had literally stuck stickers on their stripes...i was all "coughUGLYcough."
note:not all stickers are ugly, just the vast majority of them.

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just_me
Dec. 25, 2003, 02:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hideyourheart03:
I wish the trend outrageous colors of show coats would end!

but when a girl at my old barn walked in with a baby blue coat and peach shirt I was kind off ashamed that she rode at my barn! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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Why were you ashamed? Did she pass gas, spit, curse, pick her nose? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If riders are neatly dressed (with a hairnet or a pony tail), the horse is clean, groomed and nicely turned out, and horse and rider get the job done, what difference does it matter what color jacket, shirt, breeches, etc.?

I find the whole fashion aspect of hunters to be a turn off, not to mention having to hit a prescribed number of strides between each fence. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

hedgehog
Dec. 25, 2003, 03:46 PM
I wish the annual "why I got for xmas threads" would die. Talk about about tacky and low class.

People should remember what the holiday is really about.

Bob of Holli
Dec. 25, 2003, 04:19 PM
I thought I was the only one who didn't like GPA's. Thank goodness there may be a movement against them. How about the traditional black velvet approved helmet we all used to have; this past season I looked odd being without a GPA.

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BenRidin
Dec. 25, 2003, 06:33 PM
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Pom-poms or beads in the braids
<LI>Un buttoned collars
<LI>loud colored shirts or jackets
<LI>rust breeches (Yikes I'm gonna get killed for that one.. I just don't like the way they look)
<LI>brown boots
<LI>Patterns clipped into the horse
<LI>unbraided/unclipped horses
<LI>people wearing the wrong colored hair nets
<LI>stickers on helmets[/list]

~BenRidin

hideyourheart03
Dec. 25, 2003, 07:04 PM
CallieJump:

I think that it looks really cute if you leave a little place on your horse unclipped if it relates to something (aka your show name).

There was a girl on the circuit that I used to show on with a pony named Irish Coffee. Whenever she clipped him she left a little four leaf clover unclipped on his rump.

And for my new horse I am considering doing this since his show name is Hide Your Heart. I would love to leave a little heart unclipped on his rump!

Glitter though has got to go.

About the issue with the shadbellies, I don't think that you guys are taking into consideration that many of the riders who where them cannot wear top hats because they are unapproved. I do not like the look of a shadbelly with a GPA but with a nice CO I don't have any problem with them.

I also do not mind hairnets. Though they are a pain, I HATE the look of wispies.

~~~~~~~Samantha~~~~~~~

Hide Your Heart aka ELI

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SuperPony
Dec. 26, 2003, 01:11 AM
People who wear four platinum blonde hairnets to try to hide the fact that they have brown hair.

And the "What did YOU get for Christmas?" threads. No, they're not hurting me. No, I don't have to read them. But I still wish that they would die. Actually, I hate most of the 'comparative' threads because each person adds one post about what they got/how much they paid/how tall their horse is/etc. and doesn't read anything else on the thread. Y'know, just posting to get one more post.

nickels and dimes
Dec. 26, 2003, 08:35 AM
what is pat parelli?????

Finzean
Dec. 26, 2003, 06:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nickels and dimes:
what is pat parelli?????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A stroke of genius marketing whereby any ol' horse owner can (get out your VISA or AmEx) fix, repair, train, untrain, bond with, join up, load up, and ultimately cough up wads of dough to complete ascending levels of voodoo witchcraft horsemanship with the help of a library of videos and a magic carrot stick. As Capt Jack Sparrow would say, "Savvy?" With the purchase of a certain number of videos (certainly over $100), you will also get a neat little ol' sticker for your automobile/truck so you will be easily identified by other members of your cult, er, I mean Parelli afficionados!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Flame suit zipped, although having duked it out with my formerly Parelli indoctrinated sister, all I can say is Bring It On, Y'all!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Fine I give up, do it your way: heels up, eyes down!!

nickels and dimes
Dec. 26, 2003, 06:26 PM
thankz

N&D

Egioja
Dec. 26, 2003, 08:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Finzean:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nickels and dimes:
what is pat parelli?????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A stroke of genius marketing whereby any ol' horse owner can (get out your VISA or AmEx) fix, repair, train, untrain, bond with, join up, load up, and ultimately cough up wads of dough to complete ascending levels of voodoo witchcraft horsemanship with the help of a library of videos and a magic carrot stick. As Capt Jack Sparrow would say, "Savvy?" With the purchase of a certain number of videos (certainly over $100), you will also get a neat little ol' sticker for your automobile/truck so you will be easily identified by other members of your cult, er, I mean Parelli afficionados!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Flame suit zipped, although having duked it out with my formerly Parelli indoctrinated sister, all I can say is Bring It On, Y'all!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Fine I give up, do it your way: heels up, eyes down!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I Love it! That is by far the best way I have heard anyone describe the whole Parelli thing-great, absolutly great! Hats off to you!

RedEqHunter
Dec. 27, 2003, 07:00 AM
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Loud saddle pads/polos for anything but schooling at home.
<LI>Orange tack.
<LI>People who make fun of newer riders with the "wrong" stuff instead of politely helping them out.
<LI>Pigtails and ribbons on anything but small pony or leadline kids.[/list]

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