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yellowbritches
Mar. 28, 2011, 10:25 PM
So, what do you do when that happens?

Toby is my first horse that actually had a record prior to my owning him...everything else I've named and/or registered (either thinking of names for them, or calling them by their JC names- hate that for him...a lot).

I'm considering renaming him (have some ideas) when I deal with the USEA here in the near future, but part of me feels bad. His prior people obviously thought of his name (since it is different that the God awful JC name), and he HAS been competing under it. But I'm not sure I can live with it. I know people do it, but is it "ok"?

DefyingGravityEventing
Mar. 28, 2011, 10:36 PM
YOU are the one who is going to have to hear his show name all of the time. And get it engraved on his show halter. And see your name next to his all of the time. He is your baby now, change it, especially if it wasn't his JC name (hell, then the bad luck is on his last owners right? :lol:)

I changed some of my horses' show names
Wil'Ya Love Me ---> (was) Houndstooth Willy Himself III
Paint It Black -----> (was) The Paint
Code Red -----> (was) Colby Cheese

You will be seeing his show name a lot, so if you aren't in love with it.... heck, this is YOUR dreamhorse right? DO IT! :yes:

deltawave
Mar. 28, 2011, 10:44 PM
Life's too short . . . change the name if you wish. :) One of the perks of ownership. :yes:

Divine Comedy
Mar. 28, 2011, 10:47 PM
My rule is change it if they don't have their passport and you hate it.

Change it if they have their passport and you have the $$$, the horse isn't terribly well known either in the nation or in the area, and you hate it.

Don't change it if you buy a well known upper level horse who already has their passport. Like the girl who now owns Mystere du Val, or Axel Rose, or Nina Ligon who bought Jazz King. Keep it if the horse is 'famous' either within your area or without.

VicariousRider
Mar. 28, 2011, 11:04 PM
I'm going to dissent here. If I were going to be in touch with the former owners (even occasionally) I would just keep it. Since he already has a record (even a minimal one) no one will think you picked the terrible name. Of course, as the owner you can do whatever you like, but if he's already registered with the USEA it seems catty or superficial to me. That's just my feeling about it but of course you can do whatever you feel like doing as he is yours!

deltawave
Mar. 28, 2011, 11:34 PM
I wouldn't be offended in the slightest if someone chose a different show name for a horse I'd sold. If they changed the hose's BARN name, now that would bother me, because my horses ARE their barn names. :)

Blugal
Mar. 29, 2011, 01:35 AM
I've changed names on practically every horse that has come through my doors/gates. I thought I picked good ones but sometimes their new owners changed them - I wasn't offended (although I may have had private thoughts about their taste).

The best 'got my own goat' though was a pony I picked up and called Pinocchio, because he was so earnest and cute. My coach hated the name and said it made her think of a liar. (We usually disagree on names anyway!) One day I was out riding a bunch and she was trying to rest her sore back so she was submitting entries... when they were in the mail (point of no return) she told me she'd entered him as Stuart Little!! She started calling him Stuart right away too. It drove me nuts but the worst part was, the potential buyers loved the name (5 and 7 year old kids) and kept it when they bought him. Now the joke's on me! :lol:

yellowbritches
Mar. 29, 2011, 08:40 AM
Catty seems harsh! :lol:

The rest of you make me feel a little better! DC, I tend to agree with your rules. Those all make sense to me. :yes:

Jleegriffith
Mar. 29, 2011, 08:53 AM
I always leave the names as they are at this stage in my life. When I was younger I did change my horses name because his registered name was Epizootic:lol:

For the CANTER horses that I sell, I always hope they will leave their names. It's nice to track them by their names and have people recognize them that way. I suppose I feel the same about all Tb's simply because when I see a nice TB I want to look up the bloodlines:D

I wouldn't be offended if someone changed the name. Most people change their barn names and that doesn't bother me as much as changing their registered name. Ha, I'm weird.

purplnurpl
Mar. 29, 2011, 09:05 AM
So, what do you do when that happens?

Toby is my first horse that actually had a record prior to my owning him...everything else I've named and/or registered (either thinking of names for them, or calling them by their JC names- hate that for him...a lot).

I'm considering renaming him (have some ideas) when I deal with the USEA here in the near future, but part of me feels bad. His prior people obviously thought of his name (since it is different that the God awful JC name), and he HAS been competing under it. But I'm not sure I can live with it. I know people do it, but is it "ok"?

what are the names he already has?
I forget....I thought you told us once already...

yellowbritches
Mar. 29, 2011, 09:17 AM
JC name is Go Senor Go (makes me want to poke my eyes out...I usually try and keep JC names, too, but I TOTALLY get why this one was backed away from).

His USEA name is Codename Toby.

bambam
Mar. 29, 2011, 09:20 AM
I changed my mare's USEA registered name when I got her- it was atrocious IMO and I did not want to have to hear it every time I competed her.
When I changed it, I ended up changing it back to her breed registry name which was also her original USEA name (which makes the change free :)) which I did not love but I also did not mind. But I would have changed it even if there had not been an earlier registered name for her.
I was on the fence about changing my gelding's show name but I never ended up competing him recognized so I never had to decide.
I don't change barn names, but show names? if it is bad enough, you betcha!

OverandOnward
Mar. 29, 2011, 09:27 AM
I agree, change it! I did. His previous record now shows up under the new name - because in the database, he isn't a name, he's a number, and the number is the same. :)

GotSpots
Mar. 29, 2011, 09:57 AM
I tend not to change their names, particularly if they've already got a record, or, even if they don't, I often use their barn name as a show name. Uncomplicated that way, and even if I don't love love love the name, it's usually _them_ and so it stays.

However, I think his USEA name is cute. If you hate it, then worth changing it just on principle.

deltawave
Mar. 29, 2011, 10:03 AM
It is a little confusing when you breed . . . Bonnie's mama's JC name was "Shiney Belle" (they even spelled it wrong, ugh!) and that's what's on Bonnie's papers, even though the name makes me cringe and the mare has always been Kelly/Delta Wave to me. :)

baxtersmom
Mar. 29, 2011, 10:19 AM
My trainer is very superstitious about name changes, so she reaaaaally discourages it. I was so relieved to buy a horse with a very nice JC name that I'm delighted to show under... one kid at our barn has a horse with the WORST name and is stuck with it.

wildlifer
Mar. 29, 2011, 10:24 AM
It's your horse -- I say you can name it whatever the heck you want! If you don't like his show name, change it, I don't see any issues with that at all. The horse doesn't give a darn.

Backstage
Mar. 29, 2011, 10:25 AM
In my view, you are the one paying the bills, so you get to change the name if his current one doesn't do it for you. That said, I do understand how frustrating it can be for breeders to try and track their "product" and would probably try and avoid doing so.

KateDB
Mar. 29, 2011, 10:29 AM
Knowing the previous owners, I cannot imagine they would be offended. I think they would be much more concerened with his future with you, his well-being and that you love him!
:yes:

eventer_mi
Mar. 29, 2011, 12:01 PM
I originally had Oliver registered in the USEA under his registered name, Olezka, but then I got so sick and tired of hearing it mispronounced that after the umpteenth time I changed it to Benvolio (I'm an English teacher and a bit of a Shakespeare freak). He's a gelding, and probably with me for the rest of his life, so why not? Apologies to his breeder - I think his registered name is lovely, but nobody can seem to pronounce it. Sigh.

Eventer58
Mar. 29, 2011, 12:17 PM
I have owned several horses who entered my life with USEA and FEI registered names that did not resonate well with me. Aside from the inherent cost of changing a horse's name (particularly when a FEI passport is involved), I also found it made it difficult for those who actually had an interest in following the horse's career.

As a side note, when I bought my first ULH from Europe, I left most of the decision making and logistics up to my trainer. When I received the horse's paperwork/passport from the Dutta Corporation, all of the documents had "John Doe" listed as the horse's name. I genuinely assumed that it was because no one knew what his "real" name was when he arrived in quarrantine and I thought nothing of it. I was shocked, however, when I opened his Oldenburg papers and discovered that his registered name was, in fact, "John Doe"! His UK stable name was "Alfie" so I was a bit confused! Needless to say, my trainer and I jumped through all of these hoops to have his name changed on his passports and afterwards, we both decided that "John Doe" was a hilarious name, it completely suited the horse, and we wished that we hadn't changed it!

So....maybe you should just sit on it for awhile. You might find that the name grows on you!!!

luvmycabanaboy
Mar. 29, 2011, 12:45 PM
Word of warning...

My horse's name had a typo in the USEA database and I had it changed, but a local organizer had not changed THEIR database, so my horse's name was wrong in all of their stuff. I wouldn't have cared, but I ended up winning the HT and my horse's name went in the Chronicle with a typo...

purplnurpl
Mar. 29, 2011, 04:04 PM
Codename Toby is funny.

Like he plans on sneaking up and kicking everyone's butts. ;)

pegasusmom
Mar. 29, 2011, 04:28 PM
Our big horse came to us with the barn name Hobo and registered name Emmett Kelly. Cute play on it for those of us old enough (cough, cough) to know who Emmett Kelly was. But by the time he came to us he didn't look so scruffy, so we shortened the barn name to Bo and changed the show name in keeping with the custom of the family at the time to name everything after American Civil War items. Hence Cold Harbor.

slp2
Mar. 29, 2011, 09:08 PM
Another option is to try and use any part of the name you like, and develop a show name around that. I have done that with my last 2 horses. My older mare, had a stoopid track name: She's El. However, her barn name was "Elle" and once I owned her, her barn name morphed into Ella (which fits her perfectly). So, then I had to come up with a show name . . . . I wanted something that incorporated Ella in the name so I picked Acapella as her show name.

My young horse's barn name is Bizzy (came with it--I didn't change it). Her breeder had named her "Bazillion" as her show name. However, I wasn't too keen on that name because it sounded like an amount of money that Dr. Evil would ask for in Austin Powers. So, again, I wanted to keep close to the original name. So, she is now: Bizzy Signal. I didn't really think for a minute whether her former owner would care--I'm paying the bills now (and sheesh--horses cost like a bazillion dollars to take care of . . . . ) ;)

I say change the name if you don't like it.

deltawave
Mar. 29, 2011, 10:05 PM
we shortened the barn name to Bo

Well, you could have gone the other way with that one . . .:lol:

pegasusmom
Mar. 30, 2011, 05:50 AM
Well, you could have gone the other way with that one . . .:lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

yellowbritches
Mar. 30, 2011, 07:30 AM
Another option is to try and use any part of the name you like, and develop a show name around that. I have done that with my last 2 horses. My older mare, had a stoopid track name: She's El. However, her barn name was "Elle" and once I owned her, her barn name morphed into Ella (which fits her perfectly). So, then I had to come up with a show name . . . . I wanted something that incorporated Ella in the name so I picked Acapella as her show name.

My young horse's barn name is Bizzy (came with it--I didn't change it). Her breeder had named her "Bazillion" as her show name. However, I wasn't too keen on that name because it sounded like an amount of money that Dr. Evil would ask for in Austin Powers. So, again, I wanted to keep close to the original name. So, she is now: Bizzy Signal. I didn't really think for a minute whether her former owner would care--I'm paying the bills now (and sheesh--horses cost like a bazillion dollars to take care of . . . . ) ;)

I say change the name if you don't like it.
Actually, I have kinda sorta thought about that- I routinely want to call him "Toby Tiger" around the barn since I am ALWAYS calling Vernon by his full name (Vernon Tiger), but then I think that's probably not fair to Toby- he needs a name of his own that isn't tied to Vernon and Vernon's history. Silly, I know.

Lots of interesting thoughts on this subject. Lots of food for thought. I don't HATE his name (I do hate the JC name, and since his time on the track was a very dismal, sad, pathetic time in his life, I will never call him anything that resembles that), however, it just doesn't wow me like he does...it doesn't suite him to me. We'll see....this requires pondering. :yes:

scubed
Mar. 30, 2011, 09:49 AM
My Tobe had the JC name, which I kept as his USEA name "To Be Announced" Can I tell you how many times secretaries would email me asking if I had the horses name yet :lol:

That said, while I like to keep JC names, I have changed a couple, most noticeably Gizmo's (barn name Gizmo when I got him and always, JC name Jin's Mad Money, USEA name Special Device). My current guy is not a TB and had only a barn name which I really didn't like and didn't think suited him, so he got a new name Meritage and barn name Tag. The girls all call him Tagalong, which does suit his personality.

I would say, given his sad track history, go ahead and change it if it will make you happy. You are paying the bills and there is enough stuff we have to put up with in our lives that a horse with a name you hate doesn't need to be one of them. I do happen to quite like Codename Toby. You could go with the long form Tobias. Or Go Toby as a nod to his JC name.

OTTB FTW
Mar. 30, 2011, 10:06 AM
I always leave the names as they are at this stage in my life. When I was younger I did change my horses name because his registered name was Epizootic:lol:

For the CANTER horses that I sell, I always hope they will leave their names. It's nice to track them by their names and have people recognize them that way. I suppose I feel the same about all Tb's simply because when I see a nice TB I want to look up the bloodlines:D

I wouldn't be offended if someone changed the name. Most people change their barn names and that doesn't bother me as much as changing their registered name. Ha, I'm weird.

Hee hee! I agreed with this approach until the CANTER horse's name was "Mamalicious".

Hearing my name announced as riding Mamalicous over fence 4 had me thinking I would laugh too hard on x-country and come in with a face more red than usual. I also felt it was insulting to my beautiful girl to be called an older woman porn star name. :lol: I do still have thoughts of attending an event once with her reg. name to see what happens. Lots of laughs I'm sure!

yellowbritches
Mar. 30, 2011, 10:46 AM
My Tobe had the JC name, which I kept as his USEA name "To Be Announced" Can I tell you how many times secretaries would email me asking if I had the horses name yet :lol:

That said, while I like to keep JC names, I have changed a couple, most noticeably Gizmo's (barn name Gizmo when I got him and always, JC name Jin's Mad Money, USEA name Special Device). My current guy is not a TB and had only a barn name which I really didn't like and didn't think suited him, so he got a new name Meritage and barn name Tag. The girls all call him Tagalong, which does suit his personality.

I would say, given his sad track history, go ahead and change it if it will make you happy. You are paying the bills and there is enough stuff we have to put up with in our lives that a horse with a name you hate doesn't need to be one of them. I do happen to quite like Codename Toby. You could go with the long form Tobias. Or Go Toby as a nod to his JC name.
The BO refers to him as "Toby or Not Toby"...cracks my ass up.