Jingles needed for Argosy..update/photo pg 5 (jingles working!)

[sid]

...I'm sitting by the phone waiting for results of xrays. It appears he's broken a hind leg.

I'm a wreck.

[sid]

...I'm sitting by the phone waiting for results of xrays. It appears he's broken a hind leg.

I'm a wreck.

[grayfox]

Oh no!!! I hope he is okay.

[Leena]

Jingles Jingles !!!!!

[can't re-]

Oh, Susan! Sending lots of jingles and good thoughts your way.

[Anne]

I am thinking of you!

[Galileo1998]

Oh NO! Sending lots of jingles your way!

[jilltx]

Big *JINGLES* from Texas for Argosy and Susan.

I'm crossing all available body parts for good measure as well.

[talloaks]

Oh that is scarey!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif What happened Susan??? Jingles coming your way!!!

[Justbay]

Oh Susan, I hope Argosy is going to be okay! I was just outside admiring my filly by him. He is such a lovely stallion. Here's praying for him and you and to hear good news...

[MsHunter]

OH NO... I am SO excited about the mare you leased me of Karens in foal to Argosy.
Is there ANYTHING we can do? PLEASE don't hesitate to call you have my husband/my cell number. LOTS OF PRAYERS AND JINGLES HEADED ARGOSY WAY

[mbp]

OMG! You must be a wreck - jingles and some prayers for you and Argosy.

These days they can do soooooo many things - keep the faith.

[hunt_jump]

Oh no, I con't imagine what you must be going through right now. Lots of jingles and hopeful thoughts coming from FL.

[Cinnybren]

Jingles and prayers for Argosy from Texas.

Brenda

[sid]

Thanks all...the good thoughts are really needed and I appreciate it. I have so much nervous energy, as I wait for information from the films.

This morning when he was coming in though his small paddock headed for the barn to eat, a mare in a lower field that was is heat. He's around the girls all the time (with a big alleyway inbetween pastures. Normally, he prances about, struts his stuff, then goes "oh well" and heads right to the gate to come in for breakfast.

Instead of doing that, he headed for the gate nearest the field where the mare was (not even adjoining) and kicked out sideways to let me know he REALLY wanted to go see her. His RH leg went through the top wrung of the pipe gate and upon trying to free himself the whole gate came down, he fell and became hopeless tangled in bent gate...wadded up in the corner of the field with both hinds trapped. A pipe had twisted into a spiral clamp around his RH cannon bone with his body weight bearing down on it. God love him, he had to "sit" (hind end trapped and front legs straight out, mashed up against the fence) encircled a cage of twisted gate while I frantically found help to pry him out.

The vet could feel "movement" of bone shifting when he examined the cannon bone and is quite sure it is broken. Now, I wait to find out the extent of it and "what next".

He's resting quietly in his stall in support wraps for both hinds. He got Bute IV so he's a comfortable as to be expected.

The wait for the xrays is agonizing.....my poor boy. He knows he's in trouble, as he's really looking for rubs and consolation from me.

[Cartier]

Geez … I hope you get some good news about this…. it’s amazing the things that can happen in a split second, that can have such an impact on your life.

[jilltx]

Oh man. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif Adding more JINGLES!!

[Amy]

More jingles... I hope they can plate it for you!

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

OMG! I am so extremely sorry! I sincerely hope you get good news about this. Sending my loudest jingles. Keep us posted, I wish there was something else we could do.

[Piaffe~Passage]

I am sending Jingles from Minnesota. I am so sorry. Keep us updated.

[Daydream Believer]

Jingles from me and my boy too. I hope the outcome is favorable. What these boys get into!

[Bea]

sid, fingers crossed for best case scenario news, jingles heading your way from NY.

[talloaks]

Oh Susan!! Sending lots of prayers and jingles for both you and Argosy!!

[Home Again Farm]

Sending all the jingles I can muster from FL for both of you. Hoping against hope for good news. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Zydeco Farm]

Susan, Add jingles and prayers from me and mine!

Terri

[2Dogs]

many jingles coming from NC!!!

[hansiska]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif Oh no! Best of thoughts and jingles coming your way from Connecticut.

Kendra

[spacely]

Jingles form CA. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[Halfhalting]

Jingles from your friends in North Carolina... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[Fred]

Jingling for you Susan, and for your beautiful Argosy. Praying for a good outcome, here in Canada.
take care,
Gail

[copper bay farm]

Jingles and good wishes from PA. How scary. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[pintofoal]

Oh no, I am so sorry that must have been terrifying, you must be so upset, anxious and scared. Poor, poor boy. I am hoping like crazy that all will be OK with the x-rays or if he did fracture something it is repairable. Jingles and prayers from all of us here.

[Twinkletozzz]

Oh dear....prayers and jingles coming your way. Please keep us all posted!

[Norsire]

Oh Susan! I'm so sorry to hear about your boy! Please keep us updated and let us know about his x-rays...as we are all sitting on pins and neddles now too awaiting news from you on your wonderful boy!!!!!!!!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

These darn horses, can find the littlest things to get injuried on and just blow my mind sometimes how they manage to do it??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
My own stallion Zilly, on Monday decided he needed a fist size hole in his chest!!! I was lucky in that he had just done it when I was going out to feed him on Monday morning. He ran along the fence and the boards are on the inside and there was one board with a knot in it that had about a 1/4 inch piece sticking out from the knot splitting and he some how caught it on his chest/forearm connection area and jabbed it in his chest and as he was running it caught and then twisted as the board broke from being caught in this chest and twisted side ways causing two holes inside the fist size hole. I hauled him right to the Vet clinic and I was so upset, but once they stitched it back up, and he seemed totally fine, I was able to relax and stop crying! He was stitched up with no pain meds, and they did not even drug him to do it!!! I finally said, shouldn't he get some pain meds? The Vets thought the other Vet did it kinda thing. So, he did get some IV bute finally. But, honestly he acted like it was no big deal. Some kids where there watching and were very busy petting his nose to "help" him feel better while he was getting his stitches in. The mother said, "you know if that was us, we'd be in the hospital for days healing up and in tremedous pain. The horses seem to take it so well." How true. I think I hurt more for him!!!

Susan, I'm sure your boy will be fine with some time! Please do keep up posted on him...I know I will be checking about over and over. Horses are very tuff and I'm sure he will be just fine!!! Hang in there and try not to worry too much, I know it is HARD right now!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

[Spot]

I'm so sorry Susan

big {{{ hugs }}} and jingles

:Spot:

[Erin Pittman]

How terrifying it must have been for both of you!!!! Lots and lots of loud jingles from Maryland!

Erin

[Fairview Horse Center]

Susan - sending prayers your way. He is such a lovely boy. Let me know if you need any help.
Darlyn

[sid]

Hooray (I think)! The vet said the xrays came out "light" but could see no "obvious" fracture. In 6-10 days we'll xray again because of his concern of a green stick or spiral fracture that wouldn't show up right away until the bone starts to remodel and calcify. The "shifting" he felt, he thinks may be because there was so much laxity -- probably from ligament damage from straining as he initially struggled to rise.

While ligament damage will be no picnic, but I'm just thanking God right now (and all you jinglers!) that it wasn't a severe fracture.

He'll be stall confined in wraps until he's re-radiographed and ultrasounded.

Whew, for now! THANKS again for your support. I sat here alone with him all day...trying to keep my mind off of it (impossible). This is why I like COTH -- only fellow horsemen like you understand what it feels like when something goes terribly awry with our horses.

Susan

[jlther]

Jingling here for Argosy!
Glad to hear the leg is not broken, at least http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Nesbit]

yipeee!! Glad your boy is OK. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[sid]

Thanks, too for the comments about my "lovely boy". He is that, but it's no secret is a a "full of beans boy" with a major libido!

I swear this horse has 9 lives. At 3 1/2 he got a hind foot through a stall bar when he was mistakenly put next to a mare in heat for the night (he was away learning how to collect)...that one cost him a breeding license from the AHS.

Two months later, he came down on a jump cup during his freejumping test at the GOV licensing. The vet on duty said he nicked a vein, but Bob Orton who was hauling him home, wisely stopped to check him on the way back and he was bleeding out. Turns our he nicked his femoral artery and could have bled to death. (thank God for Bob!)

Let's see...at age 4 when he standing for his first breeding season at ERC he stepped on a construction screw that came a fraction from puncturing he's deep digital flexor tendon. After the surgery, I was told he was a very, very lucky boy.

That's exactly what the vet said to me today. I LOVE this stallion...he's the sweet, but mischievous one. Sometimes, like today, he really gives me gray hairs.

[Norsire]

Oh Susan, I'm so happy to hear his leg is not broken!!!!!!!! He will be just fine and I'm jingling for a quick recovery for your precious boy!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Fairview Horse Center]

Good to hear Susan. At least if he was going to be injured, he waited until after breeding season, and enough time to heal before the next one.

[Zydeco Farm]

Yea! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Where's the jumping up and down, cheering icon?? Will continue with jingles and prayers for an uneventful recovery.

[happy mouth]

Oh my God, I am so very very sorry. I am sending all my very best thoughts and every jingle that I can muster. Why do they do these things to themselves?

[Cartier]

so pleased to hear that his leg isn't broken... wonderful news...

[cyriz's mom]

Hope the news continues to be good over the next few weeks!!

[caryledee]

Wow, you've been through a lot with him!! Did you ever see that plastics commercial where the mom says about her young son "It'll be a miracle if he makes it to ten!!" Thats kind of the way I feel about horses...its a wonder any of them make it to old age!
So glad to hear he hasn't used up that nineth life yet! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[sid]

Carlydee...yes, some horses should have to be wrapped in bubble wrap until they are at least 12!

[CathyKb]

Wonderful news about your beautiful boy. Please keep us updated with his progress. Mores jingles from Texas.

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Sid, I work for a company that has to order packing supplies all of the time. Whadaya say we go in on a truck load of bubble wrap? (My boy is a good boy, but he gets beat up a lot by the other "playful" boys)

I am glad to hear the good news. I am still jingling for continued good news. Lord knows, this poor boy, and especially YOU, need it! With all of his accidents, I am surprised you have hair to turn grey, Lord knows I would have already pulled all of mine out.

<span class="ev_code_PURPLE">More jingles for CONTINUED good news!!!!!!</span>

[jilltx]

OOOoOOO that's great news (so far!!). I'm still jingling away for you Susan, and for Argosy too!!

[HSGFarms]

Glad to hear that your lovely stallion does not have a broken leg. Lots of jingles for a speedy recovery! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Daydream Believer]

So glad to hear the good news. I will keep jingling for his speedy recovery though!

[creseida]

Susan, I am so glad that Argosy's injury is not severe. He is a lovely boy. Best Wishes!

[TKR]

Susan, I'm SOOO glad for you and Argosy! They are so fragile! My goodness, what a week it's been. You and your beautiful stallion are on my prayer list.

Penny Garzarek
www.krugerrandrunfarm.com (http://www.krugerrandrunfarm.com)

[Little Indian]

oh no!!! Jingles from CA

[onetempies]

Sooooo glad that a break didn't show up! Continuing jingles for the next set of films to come up clean!

Please keep us posted! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[Riven]

I'm glad things are looking up. What a horrible thing to have happen- you both must have been so scared. Here's hoping that he recovers well and ends his yearly mishaps. I'm still jingling for him.

[Esprit]

Jingles for a speedy and full recovery for your boy. I'll wait patiently for more good news. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This must be an incredible relief for you.

[Carol Ames]

What GOOD news! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif It is only a matter of seconds,and,inches from depest despair to joy,isn't it? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif here's jingling for a speedy, full, and, uneventful recovery! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[dray]

Susan,

I just logged on and read about Argosy.Bless you both. What an ordeal. We're jingling for you here in Texas as well.

Donna
Carson Farm (http://www.sportequine.com)

[nsm]

Susan,

I am so very very sorry to hear about this, and am praying for Argosys' complete and total recovery. Tons of jingles from the Midwest---
Nancy

[NZ Loopy Lu]

My heart was in my mouth when I read your post ~ All the very best for you both after such a frightening experience. I am sending jingles from l'il 'ol NZ http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[sid]

Continued thanks for your jingles. Boy, am I sore. The adrenalin rush to free him is taking it's toll on my old body today!

I'm not one to borrow trouble(though I do have a tendency to question everything), but I sure wish those films were not "light". My vet of 12+ years is out of town, so they were shot by a partner. I'm sure he's qualified, but this is one of those times(and injuries) where I'd want the diagnostics close to perfect, particulary because he felt so sure after palpating the cannon bone that there was instablity and diagnosed a fracture. In my experience, most vets won't say that before xrays unless they are darned sure (i.e. don't scare the owner factor).

I think for my own peace of mind, I'll ask my regular vet if he thinks he should re-shoot them when he returns on Monday. If he's comfortable with the films, then I will be too. If he's unhappy with them, I know he'll want to repeat them to be sure nothing is missed (because of the overexposure) that may need immediate treatment.

After watching Argosy's cannon bone wrapped in a vice grip of pipe, and his body weight pressing down on it for 1/2 hour, I don't want to find out a week from now "oh, there really WAS a fracture that we couldn't see".

This is one of those "gut" things...am I being silly?

In the meantime, I'm looking for gates that are SOLID...can anyone point me in the right direction? I know the likelihood of a repeat is slim, BUT.....

[Cartier]

Susan,

I don’t know a thing about solid gates… just wanted to mention that “going with your gut feeling” is usually the best way to go. At the very least you will have peace of mind (which is invaluable). And many many people (in a wide range of circumstances) can testify to the critical importance of following their gut instincts. In a medical setting we hear this theme time and time again, "I am so glad I went with my gut instinct and got a second opinion." ... or re-checked, re-tested... or whatever. I don't think you are being "silly." Go with your instincts.

[Sporthorse South]

Susan, I am so sorry to hear about Argosy's injury! How frightening for you! And I'm very glad that the first x-rays look okay, but I agree that maybe you should go with your instincts on this one and get a second opinion. Good luck with everything.

[Zydeco Farm]

Hi Susan, weighing in here in favor of a second opinion. The times in my life when I haven't acted on my gut, I've always regretted it. Over the years, I've come to trust that little inside voice. Trust your little voice. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Still jingling and praying.

[mairzeadoats]

I'll 3rd the 'go with your gut' vote and get the 2nd opinion, if only for the peace of mind. I've never in my life regretted going with my gut. I have many regrets at not going with it.

Jingling for Argosy and you here, too...

[Zydeco Farm]

Thinking about you two this morning. Update us when you are able. Still jingling. . .

[Equine Connection]

Hello SID: Very best wishes for a full and speedy recovery for your boy.

[Home Again Farm]

Susan,

Yes, definitely go with your gut feeling.I hope your doubts turn out to be unfounded, but at least you will have the peace of mind of certainty if you re-do the x-rays. Years ago if I had not questioned one vets plan of treatment, I would have probably lost my mare Wintermaske at the tender age of 3 months.

Gates are definitely weak points as far as safety is concerned. I have replaced many of my original pipe gates with really heavy pipe gates that might not bend if hit by large mack trucks. They are a pain to hang because of their weight, but I think that they are much safer than even the medium heavy gates. I think Ramm makes the ones I have. I don't know of any solid gates.

But, honestly, we can only do so much to horse-proof our farms. Once in a while these creatures do find ways to hurt themselves despite all our best efforts.

Hope your body heals from those adrenalin rush acts of prowess. I know the feeling and it is an achey one. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[hansiska]

Yes, go with your gut and get the second opinion.

On the solid gate -- you might try wiring diamond mesh to a pole gate. I did this to keep my dog in my horses' pasture and it's stayed up fine for over a year and a half. A solid wooden gate might be very heavy.

Best of luck tomorrow.

[sid]

Thanks all. I already left a message on my vet's voice mail and he'll probably talk things over with me tonight.

In the meantime, Argosy's not doing so hot, partly because he has ocassional "episodes" to let it be known that he's none too happy about being stall confined for so long (when he sees the other horses going in and out).

He'll get over it, but he needs to stay more still than he is. I'm trying to keep horse traffic to a minimum, so he doesn't injure himself further.

[Fairview Horse Center]

We found with some horses, they just do better if they can't see out at all. Seems mean to a horse that has nothing else, but it is only for a short time. Maybe even keep a radio on so it minimizes what he can hear of the other horses.

[sid]

Thanks, Darlyn. I'll go that route if I have to. He's been pretty quiet since early this a.m. Like some horses (particulary stallions), Argosy likes "sameness" and this has really messed up his routine. He's smart and I know he'll adjust.

Scot Tolman wrote an amusing, but truthful article on the some of the realities owning and managing a breeding stallion. This passage I found particulary amusing, as it describes Argosy perfectly...

..."Stallions are the quintessential herd animal. You have to check with them if you decide to change a stall or paddock arrangement; give them a list of the activities planned in and around the barn for the day, so that they can be prepared; and, anchor the TV screen that displays the output of the 24/7 surveillance camera securely above the aisleway, facing their stall. And you thought your were a control freak".

Ha!

[Fairview Horse Center]

Too funny. Nevada could care less about any changes, but Ollie pouts and gets worried about any change in schedule or routine here on the farm. Even going from Summer to winter schedule - the order is the same, but not to him. It is strange because Ollie is much more laid back than Nevada - go figure. They are all individuals.

[Norsire]

Evening Susan!
I don't want to alarm you, and have hesitated to post this, but thought you should hear my experience with a pipe gate and a young yearling filly I had by Norab 7 years ago.

I was out of town, picking up my horse trailer in Indiana that had some recall issues. At some point all of my horses in one field got loose and the gate was found open with a broken chain that kept it closed. The gate had some bent pipes as well...I assume my filly got her leg in it and struggled and in the struggle busted the chain, which in turn opened the gate and all the horses got out and to top it off my neighbors who knew ZERO about horses, were very nice and caught them all and put them in with one of my stallions in HIS paddock. They told me my old gelding and the stallion were fighting alot...well yeah since he is very devoted to his weaned foals from the foal crop of that year. Anyway, I also put this in because I don't know if the pipe gate caused the yearling fillies injuries or the constant fighting and being put in a paddock with a stallion for a period of time until my help came that evening to find this huge mess. They called me by cell phone and had the Vet coming to look at her since she was so lame!!! The Vet did x-rays and found no breaks but was concerned about the filly being extremely lame and wrapped her up and told them to do bute, antibodics, and complete stall rest. He commented at the time he really felt it was broken due to the amount of movement in the leg. I got home and the filly seemed lame, but not so bad, but then again the bute was kicking in. 4 days later the girls were rewrapping the support bandage and came up to the house to get me and told me she had blood in the bandage, which had not been there the 3 previous days when the bandage was changed. I said "I thought there was no cuts on the leg..they said there had not been any cuts!!!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I go rushing up to the barn and find on the outside of the cannon bone about where the ankle ties in together this strange and huge bloody mess????????? I immediately call the Vet (regualar Vet now back too) and tell him what I'm seeing and I want some answers TONIGHT!!! He tells me to load her up and come right in that it did not sound normal or good at all. Upon walking her to the trailer and the first step up onto the ramp, the bone shoots out the side of the leg through the blood blobby mess!!!!!!! Now hysterical, I call the Vet who jumps in his truck comes to my place. He examimned it and said she had toren/severed her ligaments and tendons..he believed it had happened 4 days earlier and told me he had seen horses on the race track do this and being right there when it happened he could not save them when all the ligaments and tendons are completely severed like that. He said the wrap and skin where holding the bone in for that time and the skin finally gave away and hence the bloody blob. This would never show up on an x-ray either...only an ultra sound which was never done on my filly. I would ask your Vet about an ultra sound as well. The Vet who initially x-rayed my filly felt movement as well and only did x-rays and when they were clean did not question any futher. I do hope and pray this is not the case for your boy, but I would get an ultra sound or at least mention it to your Vet. The Vet who came the night the bone came through said it could have been the struggle with a leg in the gate or even very deep footing with the horses loose and running loose until they were caught. I will never know but always felt it was the gate. My farm now has custom made gates that were very expensive, but I will say I've had any legs go through them with the fine 1 inch mess structure or bent gates so far with them...and I'm now knocking on wood. My gates were made of 1 inch square mess and very heavy dute guage metal. They were done by Fryebros in PA. You can kinda see them on my Facilities-Norsire (http://www.norsire.com/facilities.html) in the run in shed photo and mare's in the feeding pens photo, but the stall front on the stall photo shows the 1 inch mess pattern on it...all my gates are like this. But, having said that, today a friend of mine in Pville had one of her race horses rare up by the gate and stuck a foot between the gate edge and the post and the hoof slide down in there and the horse was pretty banged up..so she is having her help put rubber some how between the gate and the post to prevent a hoof or leg from going down between it!!! So, it seems horses no matter what you have will find away to injure themselves. I hope all works out for the best and follow you gut and ask for more x-rays and an ultrasound. I'm sending many jingles for your boy now and please let us know how he is doing and maybe put update on the title with page number so we will all know there is a new post by you. I will be checking back often to see how your boy is doing!!! My thoughts and prayers our with you and your handsome boy!!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

[siegi b.]

I think that taking Argosy to Morven Park would probably be the safest thing at this point.
Good luck!

[Palomino Leopard WB]

I am sorry to hear about Argosy, definitely will be pulling for the both of you for a speedy recovery.
I would go with your gut instinct as well...another set of X-rays or maybe a specialty hospital if one is in you area. That was you will know for sure what is going on.

We had an injury to our young stallion last year...he appeared with blod coming out of his nose. On second look the bone beneath his eye just appeared to be gone...X-rays showed the break and the vet thought he might be okay to heal like he was. Sinuses were flushed with no signs of problems. Our gut was to have surgery done anyway, and we were glad we did as the bone on the x-rays showed the break but surgery showed that the bone (triangular break from one side of eye to the other) was actually collapsed into his sinus cavity.

As far as the pipe gate, maybe a temporary fix would be to attatch horse fencing to both sides of it. You can use the wire (have no idea what the darn things are called) for chain link fences to attatch it. I know some companies have 2x2 heavy mesh wire panels that can be put on pipe corral panels...mabye something like that can be welded on the gates.

[sid]

Thank you so much for sharing that with me, Norsire. What a horrible thing for you and your filly. The ligament situation is indeed a big worry right now, too.

The vet who came Friday, did talk about Morven as an option, but I opted to get the initial films and keep him quiet and still here at home. At the time this ocurred I was fearful that the trailer ride, or the fuss he'd likely cause stalled in a new place (he tends to stall kick if he's REALLY upset), might damage the leg further.

Of course, now other things are showing up, like a gigantic hock...other traumas that were not immediately evident when the accident happened and now also need to be examined.

He's still wrapped and I haven't moved him since yesterday. In fact, I'm adding bedding and just picking his stall (not as nice as I like, but I'd prefer not to bring him out on the cement aisle unless the vet is here).

My vet will be here tomorrow to re-radiograph and ultrasound.

Many thanks for the gate info, too. Sounds like they are well worth the investment.

[sophab]

Wow. What a tragic thing. I hope the second set of x-rays confirms the first, not otherwise.
My trainer has a BS paint mare who is a bit of a pistol to say the least. Trainer has stall doors that are the sliding type with metal grille/bars that are designed for horse use.
Well, she came into the barn one morning, and the door was half off the runner, and the mare who had been kicking the night before managed to get her hoof between 2 of the bars and had been hung there for God knows how long. (literally she was on her side with her leg in the air caught in the door).
Vet was out immediately and palpated and pulled x-rays. Everyone was amazed that all this mare had was soft tissue damage. We are fortunate that she did not have the secondary issue a few days later as in Bridget's case.
I will hope for this scenario for you. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif
Jingles from the whole barn in NH for your beautiful boy...

[Draygonfyne]

sid...I just got onto COTH for the first time since last Thursday and saw this....

Jingles for you and Argosy, and I hope everything comes up clear in the next go-round of x-rays. Please keep us updated.

[Foxhound]

I have seen solid gates. I drive past a big Middleburg farm, Dinwiddie, every day on my way home from the barn. Their gates look like normal pipe gates, but with a heavy metal mesh backing. They look very sturdy, and expensive. You could probably look up their farm office number in the phone book and ask where they get the gates. Since I have never seen anything like them anywhere else, I bet they are custom made.

[caryledee]

Still jingling...please let us know what the vet says!

[talloaks]

Sid, call Scott Hassler at Hilltop as he designed some special safe solid fences. I'm sure he'd be happy to help you out!

[patch work farm]

Susan, I hope things work out for him, he is a beautiful guy!

Be cautious about the gates (I live near Dinwiddie, I know the ones referenced and have always wanted them but...) speak with Suzanne Hassler about them directly. I seem to remember her telling me that one of their mares had a freak accident with one and put her back legs through the mesh, it was a mess. I think she was ok but lame from it.

[Norsire]

Foxhound and Patchworkfarm those gates are custom ones just like mine from FryeBros.com in PA...I think that or Frye Bros manufacturing co. do a search. And as I said, I think horses NO matter what kind of gate you have will find a way to wound themselves..just the nature of a animals period. Horses...... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif And if there isn't away to injure themselves, they will invent a brand new way to do it, that's never been done before in the history of mankind!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

[Norsire]

Bump...Just wondering if anyone has heard from Susan about Argosy. I know she last posted her regular Vet was coming to do new films and ultrasound and wondering if anyone had any updated info on his progress. Jingles for Argosy!!!

[sid]

It seems, I own ONE lucky horse! New xray results yesterday, show no apparent fracture, no hock damage. No ultrasound done yet, as he still had a lot of swelling. He must have stretched his ligaments to the max when he was first examined after the accident for such a quick diagnosis of a fracture. We'll still recheck for a greenstick fracture in a week or so.

He's been on 2 grams of bute 2 x day since the injury and just backed him down to 1 g. 2 x day. Also Naquazone to pull the swelling down. He appears to be sound at the walk and trot in hand (on bute, though). The vet wants me to turn him out for awhile, so the next few days will tell if there's any residual soft tissue problems (but the laxity in his ligaments has tightened back up nicely).

Thank God, Argosy is big-boned in the leg. A TB's leg would have snapped like a twig in that situation.

I took a picture of the gate in case the insurance company needed it, and it's nothing short of a miracle he didn't break his leg. I can't seem to figure out how to post a picture (I'm a computer dummy), but wish I could show you how a pipe gate can turn into a death trap in a situation like this.

The level of concern and support you guys have given me really helped me through this ordeal -- it's the waiting that was so anxiety-producing.

In the meantime, he's "grounded" to an electric paddock so as not to even get close to a gate until I get them "Argosy-proofed"...though I know this was a freak accident, this guy has just pushed his luck one too many times for me!

[Quinn]

Susan, what fabulous news! Very happy and relieved for you.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ballyduff

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Whew!!!! That WAS lucky! I am so glad to hear good news for you and your boy! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[talloaks]

sid you have a pt!!

[Cinnybren]

Excellent news! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Norsire]

Wow that is GREAT news!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif Thanks so much for the update, I've had you both on my mind alot lately!!! The power of COTH jingles!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Leena]

This is great news !!! I hope your stallion will recover and yes put electrify fences. I have one wire at 18 inches from the groung and the other at 4 feet. Works great !

Good luck to you and Argosy !

[jilltx]

sending MORE Jingles (since they seem to be working so well!!) So glad to hear that all *seems* to be good so far. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Home Again Farm]

That is wonderful news. Will continue the jingles for full and fast recovery! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[talloaks]

Argosy is a lucky boy~~~~~~~~~~just look at this picture of the pipe gate he was involved with!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Cartier]

Geez –o- pete!!! It’s amazing he survived the encounter…
continuing to wish you all the best.

[TKR]

Argosy must have a very special angel watching over him! He certainly has one taking care of him. I'm thrilled for such a good follow-up.
All the best wishes for you and Argosy.
Penny Garzarek

[Twinkletozzz]

That is just wonderful news. I am so glad to hear it! Thank you for sharing.

[NZ Loopy Lu]

PHEW!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[sid]

Loopy,

Regarding the photo, if that's New Zealand jargon for "Oh S#$t"...then we're on the same page. That's what I said when I found him. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[spacely]

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He is one lucky boy!!

[Zydeco Farm]

Wow! That picture is quite impressive. Glad all is going well. Continuing to jingle and pray for a complete recovery. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Fred]

ditto what TKR said..Argosy is one lucky boy.. I am so glad that things have turned out as well as they have.. he is a gorgeous horse.
best wishes for a continued safe and complete recovery.
Gail

[jilltx]

Yikes-almighty! Thats one pretzel of a gate. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Good thing Argosy knows how to play twister. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Continued Jingles...

[Draygonfyne]

Oh my http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Unbelievable. But so glad to hear he's going to be okay. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[monstrpony]

Mare owners, take note--this stallion has GOOD BONE!

Glad things are turning out okay. That is one mangled gate.

Argosy 1; Gate 0, thank heavens.

[race_run_jump]

So is "Argosy" a translation of "Big Mack truck that hates gates with a passion"???? Yikes!!! Glad he's doing well!!!

[Karosel]

Im so happy that Argosy is doing well.

Now that gate!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Here I was thinking that pipe gates were the safest!. We have some nasty cattle and even they have never done that to a gate. Truly a freak accident.

[sid]

You guys are too funny. Yes, I seem to own a rubber horse. Seriously, I've always marveled at his elastic body and cat-like ways of moving -- it really paid off for him in this situation.

We've constructed a thick plywood "armour" attached to the top 1/2 of the gate (obviously a new one), until I can investigate the alternatives you so kindly recommended.

So far so good...STILL SOUND, swelling down. Whew!

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif WOW! I am so glad he is ok. He is one very lucky boy! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[sixpoundfarm]

Sid, how's he doing? Update please!

[sid]

He's doing great! The leg is still a bit banged up: lump on the cannon bone, some residual swelling in the hock that should go down with time, but he's sound. He hasn't been ridden to know if there are any weight-bearing issues, but as good as he looks out running around, I wouldn't think there would be.

Thanks for asking...I'm still counting my lucky stars.