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Cotner
Mar. 2, 2011, 10:10 PM
I have an ongoing problem wiht a horse I have been riding that will jump together behind in the canter or doesn't leave much space behind. This typically happens more on the right lead and when he is tense. The horse is the nervouse and hot type. I thought this issue to be more of a problem caused by tension then by a lameness. Any suggestions on how to get him to separate his legs and canter with more space behind (exercises, etc.).

The horse is perfectly sound at the walk and trot. Could he have a lameness problem? Like I said, the canter is much better when he is relaxed.

Thanks for any input.

Foxtrot's
Mar. 2, 2011, 10:16 PM
Our pony who bunny hopped behind had stifle problems.

Leena
Mar. 2, 2011, 10:19 PM
I would check on for spavin. Good luck !

NorCalDressage
Mar. 2, 2011, 10:48 PM
Would get him checked out by vet.

It is also possible that his "tension" and nervous type behavior comes from experiencing pain or discomfort when cantering.

Cantering together behind makes me think stifles, but it could be many things.

dwblover
Mar. 3, 2011, 08:47 AM
Stifles or SI joint come to mind.

merrygoround
Mar. 3, 2011, 10:24 AM
I would observe him at liberty, and on the longe.

But I would also have him examined by a lameness specialist.

Equibrit
Mar. 3, 2011, 10:27 AM
Let go of the front ?? Go for long canters on a trail ride.

joiedevie99
Mar. 3, 2011, 10:44 AM
Have his SI checked. I've known two that would two-foot behind, and both were helped immensely by SI injections and a solid rehab program.

Valentina_32926
Mar. 3, 2011, 11:17 AM
Let go of the front ?? Go for long canters on a trail ride.

Agree with this but also get soundness exam.

spirithorse
Mar. 3, 2011, 11:27 AM
Also could be having problems with the muscle structure comprising the hamstrings.

mishmash
Mar. 3, 2011, 11:59 AM
My Morgan started doing this when arthritis in his hock became an issue.

katarine
Mar. 3, 2011, 12:22 PM
Stifles

dudleyc
Mar. 3, 2011, 12:53 PM
I have a horse that I bought as a 3 yo and presently is showing PSG. There was a time around 3rd level that a clinician noted that he cantered close behind. Neither myself or the trainer I had at the time noticed this, I suspect because it was a gradual change and subtle. It turned out to be some mild arthritis in the R stiffle.

I have a very knowledgable vet from Tufts and he says that when the lameness is behind the hindquarters drift away from direction of the lameness (although jumpers will jump drifting TOWARDS the lameness as the sound leg pushed of the ground harder).

katarine
Mar. 3, 2011, 01:48 PM
Interesting, Dudley: I've also heard switching behind tracking L, for example, speaks to a RH issue: as the RH is starts the stride, and holds up the whole horse for a moment, often on a circle L....hard work :)

buck22
Mar. 3, 2011, 03:53 PM
my aged retiree with stifle issues canters with both hinds striking at the same time when he's ouchy.

Cotner
Mar. 3, 2011, 09:12 PM
It looks like his ankles are the problem. Flexed negative on hock and stifle but positive on both ankles. Had them injected so hopefully I will see improvement in 3 or 4 days. Continuing work on relaxation will help as well.

goodpony
Mar. 3, 2011, 10:38 PM
I have seen it in very young foals....and not just a momentary lapse into 'hopping' but a natural predispostion toward this gait impurity. I have also seen it with tension (mental tension-as in this is harder work than I signed up for at breakfast) and resistance to the aides (as in how dare you ask me to go forward today-puny human!). I also agree that stifles and LS or some combination of hind end problems should probably be ruled out.

chryssilynn
Mar. 3, 2011, 11:04 PM
Could still be orginating somewhere other than the ankles, like the SI, back or even the neck. As others have mentioned, a lameness specialist is probably not a bad idea. I dealt with this with my horse recently, and it turned out to be neck and back causing stifle and other leg issues.