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fargonefarm
Feb. 21, 2006, 02:38 PM
So the thread on the H/J forum got me to thinking (well, mostly it got me to thinking that according to them, I must look like Liza Minnelli on a horse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif). What do you i.e. Eventers consider no-no's about turnout and what do you like to see? I'll start:

-I braid for EVERYTHING! I like a neatly braided, well-polished horse, even for schooling shows/events.
-Neatly tucked away hair. (Flame suit zipping) If it requires a show-bow for long hair, so be it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
-I absolutly, blatently refuse to clip my horses ears. It's their natural fly protection system, so let it be.
-Anything other than "Dressage Whites" for that phase. There is a certain BNT around here that wears tweed instead. Oy.
-Dirty horses are unacceptable at shows. Brush them, clean them - take them to the carwash if you have to but by God, get them clean.
-Ill-fitting tack. I hate leather straps flying everywhere.

BTW - I love rust-colored breeches. I wish they were mandatory for everything. I'm sorry....was I digressing? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Alright - let the games begin!

cllane1
Feb. 21, 2006, 02:49 PM
My pet peeve in eventing? Tons of gear that isn't really needed for the horse, but put on b/c it "makes them look like an eventer."

(I'm certainly not talking about people whose horses need certain equipment.)

BarbB
Feb. 21, 2006, 02:49 PM
Shiny clean horse, rider neat and clean.
That's about all that's required.
I half roach my horse's mane so I don't braid and I like tan breeches, but I still get 'nice turnout' comments. Sometimes I think they are looking for something nice to say. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I have sometimes goggled at the number and variety of places where it is possible to attach brightly colored vet wrap. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif But as long as I don't have to do it it's ok with me.

JustFive
Feb. 21, 2006, 02:57 PM
I read the posts on the HJ forum also and began to remember why my girls left hunters and love eventing. We don't have deep pockets and buy clothes and tack that are closeouts, used etc. We clip and braid outselves (I mean the horses are clipped and braided by us, although we might look pretty clipped and braided) and try to be neat, but we are certainly not fashionable and don't sport expensive tack. But I digress, pet peeves -- bunched up saddle pads. That can't be comfortable for the horse. Bits that are too large or small for the horse. It looks as if you just borrowed something at the last minute. I can tolerate alot if someone still rides well for their level.

Lori B
Feb. 21, 2006, 03:07 PM
My horse is clean, my tack is clean, my gear is plain but appropriate, I think. I am NOT changing breeches for the dressage phase, though. Light beige for all three has to just be acceptable. I second JustFive, one appeal of eventing is that regarding gear, it's not like a clique of fashion-obsessed teenage girls on speed. If I wanted that, I'd ride H/J. I didn't really like the 9th grade the first time around, so why would I sign up for more of it? (I know, I need a fire extinguisher, flame away)

I haven't braided yet, going elementary at unrecognized shows, but as my mastery of show logistics improves, I'll add it to the process.

Heinz 57
Feb. 21, 2006, 03:26 PM
Personally, I cringe at braiding with bands. If you can do it well enough that it looks like a sewn-in braid job, kudos. Go ahead. But if they look like something Willy Wonka would be proud of, just pull it and leave it alone.

I wear white breeches for all 3 phases (On PURPOSE!). I braid for everything. I'm conservative in my XC colors, and don't use a colored pad for stadium (and I use a black pad if the horse is white). I want(and WILL have by competition time) a charcoal hunt coat. However, if you don't do/have these things I won't hold it against you.

The only things that really bother me are things like NEON xc colors (unfortunately, a younger friend of mine went with reflective caution-style neon ORANGE on her grey mare). It makes it REALLY hard to pay attention to anything but the bright color. If you do go with neon - please make sure all the pieces are the same color, not lighter/darker shades for each.

And, horses that are booted, tacked, and vetrapped to their eyeballs to go BN/N. You don't see many of those when you get past Novice. I do sort of resent the Myler Combo bit trend... and see a number of horses/riders that don't need to/shouldn't be using it. OH - using a white pad on a white(grey-ed out) horse, making the horse look dingy.

Other than that - clean your horse, shine your boots and give your saddle and bridle a good soaping. I'm a minimalist when it comes to tack, I don't like having to put on/take off fifteen different pieces for each ride (especially at a 1-day!).

NeverTime
Feb. 21, 2006, 03:27 PM
Totally agree on the equipment overload. I feel bad for horses who head out to XC with so many straps going every which way that they look like bondage victims (with bright-colored tape attached in every conceivable place!) and bits that look like they were meant to stop a freight train. Particularly at the lower levels, if your horse needs that much gear to either stop him or protect him while jumping a tiny fence, maybe it isn't the right sport for him.

SuperSpike
Feb. 21, 2006, 03:32 PM
That's funny that people think white breeches are the most proper color for dressage- I think tan looks lovely!

My pet peeves:

-Useless tack and gadgets
-Half-pulled or half-clipped tails (aka The Bush Tail)
-No gloves for dressage
-Dirty horses
-Vetrap over Woof boots
-Ill-fitted breastcollars and breastplates (do you want your horse to not be able to breathe?)
-Flash nosebands that are too low
The list could go on and on...

And I'm not too picky about braids. If I see someone with a horse who has the "Circus Horse" braids (sticking straight up off their neck), I just laugh. I think most people try their best to braid. It's so cute when you can tell the kids braided themselves!

Luvinfoofy
Feb. 21, 2006, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Lori B:
I second JustFive, one appeal of eventing is that regarding gear, it's not like a clique of fashion-obsessed teenage girls on speed. If I wanted that, I'd ride H/J. I didn't really like the 9th grade the first time around, so why would I sign up for more of it?

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif You had me ROLLING! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Kap
Feb. 21, 2006, 04:00 PM
Here are some of mine, though I agree with most of the above:

-Dirty tack
-Bushy tails that look like they've been rubbed raw and make the horse look like he's got a brush bunny clinging to him
-People who pick one or two obnoxious XC colors and go ALL OUT (as in EVERY conceivable piece of tack/clothing being that one or those two colors). Honestly, it looks clownish.
-Dressage in a stock tie but no jacket
-Dirty saddle pads
-Cheap, shiny, ugly galloping boots (extra credit if they're a horrid, matching color)
-Braid/pony tail, even if it's for Stadium or XC. It looks sloppy and unprofessional. Showbow it if you need to, but contain your hair.
-Loud helmet covers for stadium (I think this one is against the rules anyways, so it REALLY shouldn't be allowed)

I'll post more when I think of them.

Speedy
Feb. 21, 2006, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by SuperSpike:
And I'm not too picky about braids. If I see someone with a horse who has the "Circus Horse" braids (sticking straight up off their neck), I just laugh. I think most people try their best to braid. It's so cute when you can tell the kids braided themselves!

Oh god! I'm guilty of "Circus Horse" braids and I'm 33!! If you saw my handiwork, you'd think a ten year old did them. But, I'd just like to say in my defense, that some horses have really thick manes and if you refuse to pull them as I do, then it can be tricky to get it all organized http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I completely agree about too much equipment and too much color coordination. Those are probably my biggest peeves.

Kap
Feb. 21, 2006, 04:21 PM
I don't mind much other people's bad braiding jobs. It's not a glaring faux pas, and it at least shows that they tried. And they'll figure out soon enough that to make better braids they just need to pull down more as they braid and tie.

BigRuss1996
Feb. 21, 2006, 04:32 PM
Actually........ and not to get any hackles up but.... white breeches realy should not be worn for dressage at the lower levels. At least that is what I havehad drilled in my head my entire life. No one in our barn ever where white until Intermediate and only with your shadbelly.
As for other turnout.... spotlessly clean horse with painted feet, very clean tack, sparkling spurs, stirrups and bit, and if you are going to wear brass......POLISH it! I do believe that is my pet peeve, nothing worse then seeing someone with a nice clean horse, etc and they trot down center line and their browband is dirty and tarnished. Oh well....JMO.
Braiding ...I use to braid for EVERYTHING, but now I don't braid below training level and especially if it isn't a bigger deal event.

deltawave
Feb. 21, 2006, 04:48 PM
Oh, gee, it looks like I'm going to offend just about everyone here on at least some particulars. What the heck, I have all the apple cider vinegar people wanting to assassinate me over on Horse Care, might as well dig myself a little deeper! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

--I always braid for dressage for recognized HTs. Unrecognized? Probably, but sometimes I don't bother.

--I have really short hair and typically don't need to worry about it but I do like to see neat hair in a hairnet. (leftover from my H/J days)

--I clip my horses' ears for big shows. Not down to the skin, but enough to get rid of the worst of the fuzz and the big tufts at the bottom especially. They wear fly masks with ears. They also don't seem to be pestered much from what I've observed when I do this. I clip muzzles all the time, too. Just don't like whiskery muzzles!

--I actually morally object to WHITE breeches, period. I mean, could ANYTHING make less sense? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif They're "frowned upon" in eventing for ladies, actually--forget the actual language in the rulebook but it is NOT 100% proper.

--I always go http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif when I see the BN horses decked out with enough gear to go around Badminton, including overgirths, FOUR bell boots, humongous bits, giant studs, etc...I am, however, guilty of using an overgirth when I was at Novice level. I soon got over myself and am embarrassed about it now. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

--I braid with rubber bands, always. Can do a horse in 20-25 minutes and they look GREAT if I do say so myself. Also doesn't trash their manes and I can pop them out by the time I walk back to the trailer. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

--And I'm sorry to all the little girls out there, but GOD I cannot stand spray paint or glitter on a horse!! Yecch, give the poor beast some dignity! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

doccer
Feb. 21, 2006, 04:58 PM
I don't know about you guys...

I really hate all the flashy colours.... *ick*

Why couldn't EVERYONE in the horse world stick to tan/brown/black/white. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

.................. "Anyone seen my lime green polos with hippy flowers on them?? "

"They're probably with the pink bell boots!!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ja Da Dee
Feb. 21, 2006, 05:11 PM
I love to braid, so I sew in braids whenever I get the chance. Usually don't for really casual schooling shows, but put them in for most everything else.

I clip the fluff off of his ears, and his muzzle at the big shows, but that's it.

I hate my hairnet, but use it.

I ride in beige breeches, all 3 phases.

The glitter, vetwrap and neon can be a bit loud, but dammit, if I was 13, my horse would be a glittery mess.

Sloppy tack and dirty horses make me nuts. Show some pride please.

StrawberryFields
Feb. 21, 2006, 05:15 PM
Dressage:
-braided mane
-clean untangled tail!
-correctly fitted matching tack
-appropriate clothing (clean, light breeches, spurs if needed, black gloves, black jacket, helmot)

XC:
-i absolutely HATE bright colors (pink, lime green, yellow..ugh)
-Not too much extra stuff
-whip
-spurs
-gloves
-clean horse and rider
-SHIRTS TUCKED IN!! I hate it when ppl leave their shirts untucked...it looks so sloppy!

SJ:
Basically the same as Dressage..... I like the manes braided too

-Clipped whiskers (not eyes or inside of ears)
-polished hooves
-squeaky clean horse and tail
- no dandruff
-polished with some face highlighter for dressage

I am an obsessive horse owner who likes her horse to look very clean and conservative. I try to make it look like we are at Rolex (which we all should without the top hat and tails!). I believe every competition should be treated as if it were rolex....my first event was Rolex for me! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

flypony74
Feb. 21, 2006, 05:42 PM
Honestly, I don't really care what color breeches you wear, as long as the rider's clothing is neat and well fitted, hair contained, etc. I won't be wearing white breeches again until I lose the "Michelin Man" look, and until I do a recognized event again. I just wear tan at schooling/unrecog shows. White breeches are just an invitation for green slobber, anyway.

CLEAN, neat, well-fitted tack. Why in the word would you go in the ring with a dirty bridle? I also hate ill fitting or dirty saddle pads. They are cheap...buy one that fits!

I only braid for recognized events, and will usually pay someone because I braid like crap. If you can't braid worth a doo-doo, either go in with a neatly pulled mane, or pay someone to do it. Nothing tackier than braids sticking everywhere.

I always trim my horses up...ears (leave "tufts" on the inside to repel bugs), bridle path, muzzle, under chin, neaten up legs, etc. I think it really sharpens up the appearance. I rarely, if ever, do any sort of hoof oil, because by the time your done warming up in a sand ring it doesn't make a hill of beans of difference. Horses should have a clean coat that "blooms," white markings clean, and should be in good weight.

And, of course, the poor BN horse on x-c decked out in a running martingale, gag bit, kineton noseband, booted all around with tape out the wazoo...you know what I mean! If someone wants to do bright colors have at it, but I prefer my more subtle red and black.

One of my biggest peeves is the rider who blames their horse for a mistake. Granted, sometimes the horse may play a role in it, or really be having an off day, but who is the dang driver? I've seen too many riders get mad about a refusal when it was clearly their fault, and not the horse's.

And for heaven's sake, go out and have fun! If you've had three good rides but still placed out of the ribbons, so what? Pat yourself on the back and give your horse a carrot for a job well done.

Foxygrl516
Feb. 21, 2006, 05:54 PM
I'm going to approach this from a different direction than most of you have, and I hope you don't mind. One thing that I LOVE about Eventing is the colors you see on XC. I think it's great that a little girl (or a big one for that matter http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif) can express their personality through their horse's tack. It's just one phase, and it's part of what makes Eventing unique. That does NOT mean you will EVER see me galloping around XC with anything pink or lime green on my horse. I do think it's cool to have that option though.

On a different note, it really annoys me to see people at recognized HTs not braid for dressage. Regardless of level. Unrecognized: not a big deal. I wear my coat in dressage even if they are waved (unless told I can't). It's 3 min of my life. Warm up without it and have someone hand it to you before A. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

It is my opinion (and I KNOW that there are special cases, please don't freak out on me) that if a horse can't keep his feet under him going BN/N, he doesn't need to be an eventer. Studs are understandable for horses who may have a medical condition, or in EXTREME weather, but to go 350mpm over 2'6" jumps doesn't seem like you need huge studs to keep upright. Just my opinion.

Part-Time Angel
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:11 PM
I'm guilty of the bright colours, but I like to think that navy downplays the pink and makes it almost classy. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I personally hate pink alone, and on horses other than greys (I detested myself for using it on a chestnut and bay - but hey, thats what I owned...) and I don't like when bright colours are used for shock value or whatever it is. I just liked pink, it was unique at the time, and the combo looked good on my horse in my opinion.

Pink/navy (http://community.webshots.com/photo/361865217/1400883007058386783ZYseBm)

Personally, my peeves are:
*unbraided horses
*braids on the wrong side (but that I do understand more - it's just a peeve of mine anyways)
*"shadow rolls" to add colour (actually just halter fuzzies)
*this girl near me vet wraps her bridle and entire breastplate. It looks awful. So that.
*Vet wrap AND tape on boots. Use one or the other - vetwrap can have a PURPOSE, but I don't like it just for colour.
*coloured pads and boots in stadium (I love trim and matching show shirts but hate too much more than that)
*I personally hate those colourful c.o.'s I think they are (the blue and lilac etc)
*Too much bit on low level horses and riders. I understand there are exceptions, but if you combine a lot of bit with these other things listed, it's difficult to conclude you are an experienced and professional (I don't mean that literally) rider.
*Fly bonnets in cold weather.
*General tack infractions that aren't neccessarily caught. Elastic breastplates and white rubber reins in dressage. I hate when people don't know some pretty clear rules.

deltawave
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:23 PM
Are elastic breastplates illegal in dressage? If so, I am guilty. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

Novelle
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:24 PM
Well, I have gotten a huge eye opening from being a "crossover" rider (I ride my mare in the Jumpers as well as events) and sometimes they may think I am crazy, but I really believe that in show turnout, the horse should shine at least as much as the rider if not more. I believe in conservative dress.
I clip my horse's ears and muzzle completely except for during the Winter.
I really don't like bright clolored polo wraps and since you are allowed to wear polo shirts in the class, I don't like it when people wear bright distracting clothing.
I agree with Foxygirl in that I don't usually even have hind shoes on my Novice level horses much less studs, I believe that should start at Training level. And I always wear my coat too...
I only use an overgirth at Preliminary on some horses, but mostly Intermediate or 3 days.I think the golden rule should be just don't overdo it...simple is better.

Part-Time Angel
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by deltawave:
Are elastic breastplates illegal in dressage? If so, I am guilty. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

Actually, I shouldn't speak so surely because I'm not sure about the states, and not even 100% in Canada. I meant for sure white reins in dressage, but I was taught to use leather for dressage, whether it's a rule or not. I'm glad you brought it up because I should correct myself until I find out for sure. Our rules require bridles to be made "entirely of leather" (except for sheepskin on a figure 8) and "a breastplate may be used". I could very well have just combined them and there may not be a real specification.

The actual person who I know who does this uses a beige elastic breastplate on a very dark horse with chrome and the "beige" elastic is permi-green goober stained and looks just awful, and I think that's what created my dislike of elastic breastplates in general, whether it's a rule or not.

Reynard Ridge
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:37 PM
Why in the word would you go in the ring with a dirty bridle? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif
There's an entire book coming out about why in the world someone would go into the ring with a dirty bridle. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Seriously, I am in the neat, clean, conservative camp.

In my younger days, many, many years ago, when I thought I was a much better rider than I turned out to be, I wore white breeches and white gloves (yea, gods, I was young!).

Now, that I am older, wiser and, er, have born two children, I go for the tan breeches, black gloves. In a million years I would never go in the dressage ring without a jacket WITH stock tie. I believe you can be eliminated for that sort of faux pas!

I do tend to braid for just about everything except the really, really schooling dressage shows where I wouldn't be wearing a jacket (I LOVE to braid, and since the Pony has a short little pony neck it takes me less than half an hour with yarn).

As for cross country, I am a minimalist. Right now Pony goes in a mullen happy mouth. I may add a running martingale this year. And she does wear (black) bell boots and (black) front and rear galloping boots (did I say minamalist?), but there is a reason for each item.

Although, I do have to admit that secretly, I think she longs for a little glitz. She would look super cool with just a touch of gold glitter in her long shaggy forelock. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

GotSpots
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:37 PM
Sigh. I'm just such a disappointment to all, I'm afraid. Heck, I've been known to have a helmet cover that is (gasp) faded dingy grass green, with a pattern that is circa 1989. I'm sure I've shown in white breeches every now or then (usually on the phenomenally rare occasion when I'm having a particularly "skinny" day or, more likely, when one of the beasts has slimed the tan ones). I'm sure that I regularly forget gloves (or lose them in the black hole of the trailer), and I know there have been days when the brass wasn't quite shined up. Both of the current beasts are, I am sure, lacking in the shiny horse department: they are sadly demonstrating a yellow/brindle coat with more than a few speckles: the sorry aftereffect of treating the Florida scrunge on a body-clipped horse, but their muzzles are somewhat clipped (if by clipped we mean hairs less than an inch or so).

Geesh. It's a wonder they let me out on course. Thank goodness I can't see a distance unless I trip over it, since I'd clearly never make it in the hunter world. Maybe I should give up any pretense and just pull out the orange petal boots, the chartreuse vest, and the matching striped gloves and show bow.

Jazzy Lady
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:55 PM
Pet Peeves:

- Arm Band on leg... they are armbands for a reason! I think it looks rediculous (flame away) and makes legs look broken up and choppy.

- Shavings in braided mane

- Loose hair. Hair net, ALL the time, or show bows, but if you wear a show bow, still wear a hairnet to contain the rest of it.

- Unpolished brass. If you have brass, make it gleam, it's not difficult and it looks FABULOUS.

- Unpolished boots. They look SOOO much better when they are shiney!

- Lack of belt when not wearing a jacket.

I'm a turnout FREAK! Seriously, I think PTA and I were vying for a turnout prize at the Champs this year but they didn't reward one. If they had have I CLEARLY would have won http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif You don't mess with the queen of turnout.

Non turnout related:

- Watching people throw their horses away across the finish line and letting them fall onto their forehand on tired tendons.

- People walking up to me and telling me what place I am in before I want to know. If I want to know, I'll look.

- People who don't acknowledge the starter at the box AT ALL the whole time they are waiting.


Generally speaking, eventers as a discipline are pretty polite people. Not many will look down on others because they aren't wearing the right breeches, or the "in" helmets. If you are out and having fun, that's all that counts. As was said in the H/J forum, it doesn't cost money to make you and your horse clean and presentable. If you don't know how to braid, give it your best shot. You only learn by practicing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Classic Melody
Feb. 21, 2006, 06:59 PM
I just moved from hunters to eventing, so to me, seeing those neon colors on horses practically burned my retinas. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I'll never get neon for my horse, who is a distinguished-looking, if plain-ish, dark bay TB with a small star. For myself, I want my clothes to be as versatile as possible so I don't have to buy three of everything, so it's navy hunt coat and tan breeches all the way!

Perhaps this is the hunter rider in me talking, but I just think the horse should take center stage. A smartly turned-out, shiny horse speaks for itself. Bright colors are just distracting, and I'm sorry, but I think the matching saddle pads/boots/polo shirts are just cheesy - **ducks from shooting flames!**

Just my opinion, though. I certainly don't pass judgment on people for trying new colors. If the horse and rider are well turned out and compete well, then, that's all that matters.

*Trinity*
Feb. 21, 2006, 07:11 PM
I'm deffinitely guilty of a couple things on here. I have plastered my horse with too much tack, but this was due to an instructor who had me convinced I NEEDED it to survive XC. I also can't braid, and I braid with rubber bands. They're not pretty, but yarn ones are ten times worse. If I could do it properly with yarn I would - trust me. I'd much rather put the time into it the first time and have them stay rather than spend just as much time fixing them before I go into the ring. I'm also guilty of a fly bonnet in cool weather; however I DO have an excuse for this, too. My horse HATES wind in his ears. So, regardless of temperature, if the day is fairly windy, the fly bonnet goes on.

I hate glitter. Glitter boots, glitter bells, glitter glue. Death to it!
Ugly bright colours. Pink on greys I can handle, but I've seen that neon, crossing guard reflective type orange plastered on horse AND rider, head to toe. No joke. It was hideous. I'm still wondering where on earth they got such things, because I'd like to give whomever sold it to them a talking to.
Bratty kids who yell at their parents and horse, although this is really for anything not just eventing. Last year I was trailered beside the brattiest little girl I'd ever seen. All day all she did was yank her pony around and demand things from her parents. She wasn't just having a bad day, either, because she placed in the top ten. I watched the ceremony (pony division, how can you not?!) and she snatched her ribbon and stormed off. Geez. If I ever did that I'd be put up for adoption.

Jagger
Feb. 21, 2006, 08:00 PM
I am a neat/clean freak. I like seeing a neat and tidy tail (banged and pulled) I hate messy tails with shavings in them (weather you are showing for not). Breeches, each to their own-but I prefer my beige low rise knee patch breeches and use them for every phase as well as with my top hat/tails (I prefer the look of beige breeches with navy tails). I’m not a fan of bright colors and all out colour combo XC outfits. I do not like to see sweat marks from lack of a good thorough grooming. I like sparkling white socks/stockings (I’m lucky, my boy has no white except a star, but my coaches horses all have stockings), belts, polished brass, bridle straps tucked in and not flapping around, properly fitted tack and apparel.

Foxygrl516
Feb. 21, 2006, 08:06 PM
Thank you Jagger for reminding me of what is probably my BIGGEST pet peeve http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif When I was a groom my nickname came to be "The Sock Master" because at HTs (or any show for that matter) I would wash socks until they absolutely SHINED. It was not unusual for me to wash them multiple times with Quic Silver to make sure there was NO dirt to be spoken of. I think a horse with super clean white legs looks SO sharp! I really hate to see a beautiful horse doing a knockout test in a dressage ring with dingy legs. gross!

Ishi
Feb. 21, 2006, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by flypony74:
One of my biggest peeves is the rider who blames their horse for a mistake. Granted, sometimes the horse may play a role in it, or really be having an off day, but who is the dang driver? I've seen too many riders get mad about a refusal when it was clearly their fault, and not the horse's.


Ding ding ding, we have my winning answer! I want to throttle people who come off XC and start complaining about the horse doing this wrong, or that wrong. Ohhhhhh, it makes me so mad! It's a 1200 pound animal, hello, and by the grace of it's kindness and (hopefully) some good training, it just carried you around XC, so no matter how it went out there, get off, pat your horse, and thank the good lord above for just being able to do this awesome sport http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Which leads into pet peeve #2: Get off your horse after XC! I can't stand people who sit around on thier horses, it's a horse, not a couch, and just worked hard for you out there. I don't care how far of a walk it is, pull your tack off (at least the saddle), and please hand walk him back to the stall or trailer. I see this a ton with kids and teens, and it really bothers me. I tend to see it as a disrespect to the horse, who already did his job, and doesn't need someone sitting on him while they are going over their XC round with friends. I rarely have seen adults do this, but so many teens and kids.

I too, have control issues with grooming, and tails are my big thing. I can't bear an unkept, not brushed out tail, or worse a dirty tail ona grey. I have two greys, I know it's a royal PITA to keep them clean, but I've just learned how a small spot on a grey is nasty, where as on my chestnut, no one will ever know http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Other then that, mine are all about the same, clean and well fitting tack, clean boots, clean horse (groomed to the nines), clean saddle pad, properly fitted boots, if being used, all that. I guess my biggest issues are more with horsemanship then tack or colors. I actually wish I started eventing as an 11 year old (instead of at 29) because I secretly adore the color pink (not neon a soft pink) and think all 11 year old girls can get away with it, where as me, now 31, probably can't pull off pink http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kementari
Feb. 21, 2006, 08:49 PM
I LIKE all the outrageous colors on XC! I think it's fun to see all the originality and obvious FUN people are having. (For the record, my XC colors are hunter green and black (except for beige breeches), so I'm not being self-defensive. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

As far as the extra equipment, well, as long as it isn't hurting the horse, what does it matter? My horse goes in boots all around and bells in front, because it doesn't hurt and horses can trip on even 18" jumps, let alone BN/N. And I have to say, when I see the way some people have to haul on their snaffles to keep their horses speed rated, I sometimes think it would be kinder to put a little more bit in and be able to stay off the horse's face a lot more! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I braid with bands AND wear a show bow. This is why I would never make it as a hunter. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I went to an unrec event once without braiding, and it just didn't feel right, so I haven't done it since. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif But I don't mind seeing unbraided horses as long as the manes are neat.

Basically, as long as it's neat, clean, and appropriate vis a vis the rules, I'm happy. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

texang73
Feb. 21, 2006, 08:59 PM
Here's my peeves (although I am sure there are more if I really thought about it):

1. Over-tacked horse (do you really NEED an overgirth and those Porter leg protectors at BN/N?) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
2. Loud, garish, neon colors and/or glitter. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif I want to see you and your horse, not be blinded by your color palette.
3. Clipped ears and/or muzzles and/or eye "guard" hairs. Seriously, the hair is there for a reason, leave it be! I admit I do trim the extreme outside and gunky http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif ear hair, but that's it.
4. Untidy bridle path. If your horse has a bridle path, it's not too hard to trim, either with clipper or scissors, and it makes your horse look instantly better! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RAyers
Feb. 21, 2006, 09:00 PM
Ishi, we must be related! Our h/j backgrounds are showing. My #1 peeve is poor horsemanship/sportsmanship followed by the need to have a clean tail!

I am as guilty as GotSpots about showing without braiding (the best part was we finished 3rd), having stained breeches, unpolished boots, and all of that jazz. I am better at CCIs.

I do try to be clean and well kept but I also figure if the judge is grading you on your braids, the spot on you pants or missing gloves then they are standing WAY too close to be able to accurately judge your horse.

Reed

Hey Mickey
Feb. 21, 2006, 09:08 PM
awwwww i think my horse looks damn good in his HOT pink and royal blue.

i hate unbraided manes, it is not that hard to learn,
martingales that are to short
dirty gray horses.
thats all i can think of right now

Nancy!
Feb. 21, 2006, 09:11 PM
Doccer: Do you mean I can't go and get some really cool new colours for my 4 year old this year? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif She is black and white and I was thinking I need to buy new cross country boots and was trying to decide on a colour.

I was going to buy red but then my vest is green. I was thinking about buying a different vest cover. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Don't you know that my green & navy actually helps match those green manure stains? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Nancy!

Carried Away
Feb. 21, 2006, 09:23 PM
-braids on wrong side of neck
-huge, sloppy braids
-tails that aren't banged/clipped
-everyone jumping on the bandwagon about which helmets/breeches/whatever are popular so they HAVE to have them...I like individuality!
-colored anything in SJ, I like the traditional look

Kap
Feb. 21, 2006, 09:29 PM
After reading over the past posts, I must say that I don't like pink on horses, no matter what color they are. Everyone has a right to wear pink, of course, but I don't like it even if it IS "toned down" by navy. I find it rather garish (Sp?) and unprofessional looking (unless there are top level riders out there in pink that I don't know about). And it is not an incredibly dignified color for the horse to have to wear. My only cross country color is black, and if I have to pick a second color I go for white. I like to let my horse show himself off, not show my tack/colors off.

By the way, what do you mean when you say white breeches are not appropriate or don't look good at the lower levels? I don't think it's correct to wear tan breeches with my black dressage jacket, now is it?

Eventer13
Feb. 21, 2006, 10:13 PM
Wondering that too... arent you supposed to wear white breeches with a black coat? I'd rather use beige (can keep them a LOT cleaner), but I always thought them inappropriate. Maybe that's just pony club speaking here...

Pet peeves:
* People who blame their horses for a bad run (not so bad with eventers as those kids I've seen at the local hunter shows)
* Not too big on neon XC colors
* Shirts that aren't tucked in (it takes about 5 second people)
* People and horses who aren't neat in there appearance
* Dirty tack

CarrieK
Feb. 22, 2006, 03:33 AM
I second JustFive, one appeal of eventing is that regarding gear, it's not like a clique of fashion-obsessed teenage girls on speed. If I wanted that, I'd ride H/J. I didn't really like the 9th grade the first time around, so why would I sign up for more of it?
Hear, hear!!

SHIRTS TUCKED IN!! I hate it when ppl leave their shirts untucked...it looks so sloppy!
Oooh, I hate to tuck unless I have something with which to cover me, because I quite resemble the...

"Michelin Man"


I've been known to have a helmet cover that is (gasp) faded dingy grass green, with a pattern that is circa 1989.
I recently tossed my old, old, probably from the early 90's helmet--the ones that made you look like a mushroom head. There goes $80 used only in up-downs when I was horseless.

Arm Band on leg... they are armbands for a reason! I think it looks rediculous (flame away) and makes legs look broken up and choppy
ow. I've never seen this. I hope I never do because I've just decided that hate anyone whose leg is thin enough that an armband can fit around it. HATE, I tells ya!

Bratty kids who yell at their parents and horse, ... Geez. If I ever did that I'd be put up for adoption.
My folks (and my eldest sister, who did not show or ride) made it clear to me that if I was anything less than sportsmanlike, they'd slap me down right in front of God and the judges. I believed 'em. Altho admittedly, I was snappish when I was a teen because my mother would "hover" assisting, and it made me nervous because I felt she disapproved of whatever it was I was doing (she didn't). After awhile she just left me and my older sister to our own devices, which we both preferred.

::whispers:: I use bell boots on Drummer's front legs because he over-reaches, especially on his big ole Saddlebred trot.

Sannois
Feb. 22, 2006, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by fargonefarm:
So the thread on the H/J forum got me to thinking (well, mostly it got me to thinking that according to them, I must look like Liza Minnelli on a horse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif). What do you i.e. Eventers consider no-no's about turnout and what do you like to see? I'll start:

-I braid for EVERYTHING! I like a neatly braided, well-polished horse, even for schooling shows/events.
-Neatly tucked away hair. (Flame suit zipping) If it requires a show-bow for long hair, so be it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
-I absolutly, blatently refuse to clip my horses ears. It's their natural fly protection system, so let it be.
-Anything other than "Dressage Whites" for that phase. There is a certain BNT around here that wears tweed instead. Oy.
-Dirty horses are unacceptable at shows. Brush them, clean them - take them to the carwash if you have to but by God, get them clean.
-Ill-fitting tack. I hate leather straps flying everywhere.

BTW - I love rust-colored breeches. I wish they were mandatory for everything. I'm sorry....was I digressing? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Alright - let the games begin!
Had to quote you cause, I feel the EXACT same way!
I especially hate going to a schooling Dressage show and see all the hodge podge of turnout sometimes. Like Black or Green Velvet saddle pads! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

Sannois
Feb. 22, 2006, 04:25 AM
I actually saw a "Trainer" in my area several years ago go out Cross country with GREASE slathered all over the front and back legs. and it was a very easy move up TRAINING course. I would have been mortified by the looks and snickers she got. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

mademoiselle
Feb. 22, 2006, 05:44 AM
And I thought French people were supposed to be fashionable http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm guilty of a couple of no-no ...

- I braid with bands (Even when I groomed at 4* level I still used bands http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif). And I braid on the left or right side depending on the horse. In France, nobody cares about that ...

I love show bows, I think they look cool. Sorry, Robby and all the no show-bow people.

I usually ride my horse from the XC to his stall. He can be a little bit up and goofy and I feel safer on his back than on the ground. I think it would be stupid to have a loose horse on the show ground. I don't want to put a chain on his nose after XC. So, I just stay on till the stall, untack and walk him around the stall area with his halter. If riders, can stay on to do the roads and tracks after the steeple chase at a CCI, I can walk my horse back to the barn without hurting him after my novice or training course. And trust me, I love my horse and I'm not that lazy.

I probably rode with white rubber reins sometimes ...

Oh my god, I'm a total fashion disaster http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif. It's a good thing they don't have the horsie version of what not to wear, I would be nominated http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Reynard Ridge
Feb. 22, 2006, 05:51 AM
By the way, what do you mean when you say white breeches are not appropriate or don't look good at the lower levels? I don't think it's correct to wear tan breeches with my black dressage jacket, now is it?
The rules state: "Jodphurs, britches - light colored or white" (I do wish there were a way to copy/paste from adobe http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif). So you can wear white. But the trend over the past decade has been away from white. Thank goodness.

Foxygrl516
Feb. 22, 2006, 05:58 AM
I don't understand people's pet peeves being putting boots/bells on a horse at BN or N. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I realize when I run Jelly Novice that we're not going out to jump Rolex fences, but there have been plenty of times schooling XC that I was glad I had those boots. Stuff happens. They hit themselves, or they accidently knock a fence. I came in once with a LARGE slice down the middle of a back boot. Thank GOD that wasn't my horse's leg!!! I don't care what level I'm running, my horse wears boots!!! (Everytime I ride at home he atleast gets wrapped with polos...not fair to ask him for lateral work if I dont' protect those legs while he's still figuring out where to put them!)

Oh, and my horse is a shoe puller. He even managed to pull both BACK shoes going Training at Champ Run last summer. I dont' put bell boots on all four, but there's no sense in running him w/o them on the front. I would just cross the finish line and head straight for the farrier on grounds. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif cause there ain't no way he's keeping those shoes on! I don't think theres anything wrong with that either!

deltawave
Feb. 22, 2006, 06:05 AM
Ishi, not everyone who stays on their horse after XC is callous and unfeeling. Late last year I made a point of continuing the "workout" that XC was only a small part of--we were conditioning for a CCI and a 5 minute XC gallop was NOTHING in terms of effort. To "make it count" we had to keep going. But in general I agree with the "lounging on horseback" thing, which is VERY prevalent at H/J shows.

Nobody's objecting to BOOTS, but the full body armor at BN is kind of silly, for instance Porters all around and 4 bell boots. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

SBClancy
Feb. 22, 2006, 06:10 AM
I'm a very conservative person. The most color I have is a saddle pad with one side blue and the other green. So if I'm feeling daring I have the green showing and if not then it's the blue. Everything else is black tack with white saddle pad.

It absolutely drives me crazy all these bright, distracting colors. I like a minimal of gear. I've seen people put gadges on their horses just to have them because they think it's cool. If you need it ok but otherwise leave it in the barn. Being an overweight person white is the last color I'm going to put on the lower half of my body where I carry my weight. I found a great pair of rust colored breeches and almost bought them. My friend laughed all the way out of the tack store. Unfortunately they didn't have my size in stock so I don't have a pair, which I would wear proudly if I did. I never shave my horses ears. I do trim them but that's about it. As for braiding I have carpel tunnel syndrome and tendonitis in one arm so I use the quickest method for me.

For the most part I feel do whatever you're happy with but sometimes I just want to slap people on the side of the head and say what were you thinking.

Hilary
Feb. 22, 2006, 06:17 AM
My biggest peeve is the astounding lack of hairnets I've been seeing. My hair is a PITA, but I manage to contain it. Hairnets are either really cheap so you can afford a lot of them or slightly pricier so you only need 1 and it will last for a whole season. I don't like show-bows per se but I'd rather see that than flying hair.

And I think it says something about my laundry skills because I used a black pad on my white horse because she made the pad look dingy!

Fence2Fence
Feb. 22, 2006, 06:31 AM
The dirty, obviously unbathed horses are what gets me. I'll tolerate a lot, but at least hose the horse off!

mortly
Feb. 22, 2006, 06:33 AM
Personally, at shows I don't have time, nor do I care to check if people have polished their brass!! However, I do have one pet peeve - people who don't tuck their shirts in under their body protector, or at anytime for that matter!

I was so disgusted when I read through the H/J pet peeve message - Thank God I'm an eventer where one can wear a show bow without being snickered at.

EasterEgg
Feb. 22, 2006, 06:37 AM
Ditto what I said on the h/j thread, ie sorry, but I hate all the matching, brightly coloured saddle cloths, boots, bandages, rider's outfits etc. I think it can be lumped in with the too much tack syndrome. Lucinda Green wrote a very interesting article in Horse & Hound the other week about people using too much equipment - interestingly she is very much against using overreach boots at all. My pony went xc in her normal everyday tack (my only concession was to put a pair of brushing boots on behind) and I would just wear whatever seatshirt/t shirt I happened to be wearing at that time!

As for white breeches, hmmm, I think it would seem really odd to see someone wearing them! My friend was on the British team, and I know that she wore light beige... I don't think white would look correct. Also, tweed jackets are correct until you get to intermediate.

I always rode my pony back to the lorry after xc - long rein, loosen the girth, gentle walk back to cool down - what's the problem?

EasterEgg
Feb. 22, 2006, 06:57 AM
I can't remember who it was, but someonce asked if there was a top level rider who wore pink - how about Lucinda Fredericks (nee Murray) (http://www.psvphoto.com/2004/cicbleau2/pages/04N71-195.html) ?

I have no problem with a rider choosing colours to ride in (think Ginny Leng purple or Lucinda yellow) - my problem is with people who think that that everything on their horse must be that colour too!

FlightCheck
Feb. 22, 2006, 07:07 AM
Guilty, Guilty, Guilty......

(a) Let students event with colored vetwrap on browbands on XC.

(b) Let students go XC with glitter

(c) Allowed students to wear white breeches. Why? Because they wear the tan ones all the time, but, in the case of white, they groom and saddle, then go change, and change out of whites immediately after - so one pair at least is clean!!

(d) rode in an Overgirth at N for quite some time after the billets on a saddle broke and I did a faceplant on XC. Very unattractive.

pegasusmom
Feb. 22, 2006, 07:31 AM
Personally, I do get a kick out of all the teenage girls in their coordinated to the nth degree stuff for XC. Hey - they are having fun!

I am also thankful that the Young Prince could care less, and must admit that I am guilty of outfitting him in navy, trimmed in hunter green and piped with white - taped up his water/feed buckets etc. He just rolls his eyes.

I love a nicely braided horse for dressage. I hate doing it, but have learned how. It's not THAT hard to get nice braids and I have all kinds of manes in my barn, from barely there to the Big Horse with the four inch wide broom straw number.

Clean horse, clean tack, polished boots. Conservative for dressage and stadium. Bell boots and galloping boots when needed. Last eventer had terrible feet which stayed under construction the entire time we owned him. Farrier threatened to quit if he didn't live in bell boots.

I do wonder about horses at lower levels who are bitted up like something from the Marquis de Sade - perhaps there wasn't enough work done at home??

One final thought on colorful XC turn out - ever jump judged through an entire day and watched bay horse after bay horse go through? Had an inquiry at your fence? Distinctive turn out can make it easier for a jump judge to remember what you did at their fence (both good and bad!)

Dana, Keeper of the Young Prince and the Mighty Miss Mo

3Day-Eventer
Feb. 22, 2006, 08:18 AM
I am, however, guilty of using an overgirth when I was at Novice level. I soon got over myself and am embarrassed about it now.


Actually, I had a girth break at the Novice level a few years back. It was the next to last fence, my horse decicded to jump HUGE over a water puddle, and snap, the girth broke. The saddle slid under his belly, I fell off, and he ran around like a lunitic with the saddle acting like a bucking strap. When he was finally caught (after causing another rider to fall after running up to another horse on course), my saddle tree was broked in two!! It cost a forutne to send back to England to repair.
The worst part.... We were in 1st place.
Oh well. For a few years after that, I used an over girth for every horse, at every level. I admit, I am lazy about it now, at the lower levels, but, even a novice, it could possibly come in handy!

My only pet peeve is horses with too many gagets, at any level. Especially gagets that attach to their head and/or mouth. I cant imagine putting all of that on them. It cant be comfortable!!!

DunBar
Feb. 22, 2006, 08:20 AM
As a former event groom, I'm a huge fan of a highly polished, neatly turned out horse. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif As in, if the horse is shiny, no loose straps, tack clean and adjusted correctly, then it's all good. I think the kids with their over-the-top matchy matchy gear is endearing and cute and if I had been eventing at that age I would have done it too! This isn't the equitation ring after all...we don't all need to look the same!

Neat braids are great. If they aren't so neat I won't hold it against you. Hey, you tried! I do like a tucked in shirt and a belt to finish the look. Oh, and about overgirths...if someone wants to laugh at me for using one at BN/N then I'll just let it roll off my back. I was taught that it was a piece of safety equipment and you used one for those just in case moments. It's black, so it isn't obvious but it will be there!

Reynard Ridge
Feb. 22, 2006, 08:22 AM
I do wonder about horses at lower levels who are bitted up like something from the Marquis de Sade - perhaps there wasn't enough work done at home??
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Ah, this takes me back to my very first ever "horse trial!" More than 15 years ago? It was an unrecognized event and I rode the equivelent of Beginner Novice on a horse that was doing Prelim at the time and gearing up to do Essex. So he was fit. The whole thing as not a good idea, because he was an OTTB who was very, very hot and I was not a very good rider.

But the horse owner (who is my very own current Trainer/Therpist who was probably 18 at the time) and my then trainer decided it would be a nice thing to do for me (since I did a lot of work around and didn't get to compete much).

Talk about bitted and outfitted out the wazzo! We tacked him up EXACTLY the same way he was ridden Prelim. Gag bit, running martingale, booted all around. Ai-yi-yi! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

We had the worst dressage test in history - I got a 4 for rider from a friend of mine who was judging. But we went clean x-c and stadium. And had a lovely, lovely day. I still remember it fondly. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

Lori B
Feb. 22, 2006, 08:33 AM
Let a thousand flowers bloom. There's a heck of a good young rider at my barn whose XC colors are neon green & pink. I can criticize her turnout the day I can ride the way she does!

As long as riders follow the rules for coats and pads, etc. for stadium & dressage, a little color on the XC course is fun, IMHO. I do agree that wearing a Rolex quantity of hardware to jump over a few logs and hay bales at BN is kinda overkill. Of course, my XC color is forest green, not exactly wild and crazy.

And I don't even want to try to understand what showbow unpopularity is about. I have a LOT of hair, both long and thick. And I have been instructed by other threads that the safety effectiveness of my helmet is reduced if I try to put my hair up in the helmet, which really doesn't fit up there anyway. The only way I have figured out to have neat and properly contained hair is a showbow, and it works magnificently. I cannot fathom why this is a BAD THING. If I wanted to work in food service, I would get a hairnet.

KellyS
Feb. 22, 2006, 08:34 AM
I'm the first to admit that I love brilliantly clean horses and tack, turned out to the nth degree, but I kind of think it is more productive to look for the positive attributes of our fellow competitors instead of their fashion flaws. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Glitter, boots, manes on the wrong side...that kind of stuff doesn't hurt anyone or anything. The stuff that bothers me the most has nothing to do with turnout (unless it is tack fitted uncorrectly); what bothers me the most, is bad sportsmanship and/or riding (and I'm not talking about the bad moments we've all had, but the riders out there jerking and screaming at their horses).

I'd hate to think about the things said about me as I got my feet wet in eventing http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif...in fact, a good friend of mine bought me a tub of eventing grease last year. She said I should just finish off the look since my horse was turned out like he was ready to take on a **** course. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

hey101
Feb. 22, 2006, 08:53 AM
I don't get the show-bow no's either. I like the look of the show bow for someone with long hair, and like Lori B, I'd have a hard time jamming all my hair into my helmet and it would make my helmet way too uncomfortable anyway. I actually think all the hair tucked up in the helmet looks WORSE- too hunter-y, if you will. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The rest of mine have already been said- clean horse, a reasonable amount of tack for the level (cracked up at the first comment about BN/N horses armoured up to their eyeballs! SO TRUE!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif), and most of all, CONSERVATIVE colors! Neon pink and green never look good under any circumstances, horse-related or not. there's a reason that crap all died a well-deserved death after the 80's. On a horse, especially when every single item of tack is neon-colored, it just looks tacky, garish, and makes think, however unfair this might be, that the rider is trying to distract spectators from a less-than-competent riding ability! (I know, that's not fair, but that's what I think...)

InVA
Feb. 22, 2006, 09:06 AM
for some reason i can't stand an Unbanged Tail... worse than it not being pulled!

EasterEgg
Feb. 22, 2006, 09:15 AM
InVA, I am soooo with you on that one! When I see pictures of hunters in the US with long, straggly tails I cringe - plaiting (braiding) them makes it look even worse!

The first thing we do with new horses is bang their tails - even if it's a wormy skinny 3 year old just off the lorry from Ireland, cutting 6 inches off the tails seems to make all the difference to their appearance!

BarbB
Feb. 22, 2006, 09:30 AM
I'm afraid I break the minimalist rules for jumping.
On the flat my horse goes in a plain snaffle, but jumping he goes in a running martingale and a rubber gag.
I would use less, but I can't see where we're going with his head in my face. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
He also is booted on all four legs (every day) because when he is not focused on something he is the most careless beast about where he puts his feet that I have ever seen. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Fortunately there will be someone there with even more tack, so we don't look that bad. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

bambam
Feb. 22, 2006, 09:52 AM
My pet peeve is dirty horses. While there are some exceptions (and I exempt all owners of white and light grey horses from this http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) it really does not take that long to get a horse clean and those socks white.
For dressage- I think the rider should look neat, have clothes that don't have huge stains on them, not have their shirt untucked if they are not wearing a jacket, have clean boots and have their hair neatly done. I also think tack should be pretty clean.
I will admit that my jumping tack is not always clean- I work a lot of hours and sometimes barely fit in the riding time during the week so if I am tight on time, not all my tack gets cleaned.
I usually braid but if I have an early ride time it does not get done and I don't sweat it(cannot do it the night before- horse is out at night most of the season) or my braider cannot do it (I hate braiding and her mane looks better pulled and clean than with my braids).
What people do in stadium and x-c bothers me less. Unless it is overbitting or a sign of unpreparedness as a rider, go ahead and over-outfit your horse and put them in ugly colors- whatever floats your boat. That, however, does not mean I did not think it was hysterical when an adult I know went to her second HT ever (at BN) color coordinated to the the gills- right down to the colored vet wrap she wrapped on her stirrup irons http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif. I may think it is funny when you go overboard, but hey have at it if it floats your boat.

BBowen
Feb. 22, 2006, 10:07 AM
Some of the kids can get really wild with their cross country colors, but it is fun for them. I did see a kid at one horse trial that went way too far with the zebra stripes -- helmet cover, gloves, top, stripe down the side of her breeches, saddle pad. My God, it would make you ill watching her ride by from the optical illusion.

As a jump judge at various events, I have a big problem with uncontained hair. When jump judging, you never write down the rider's number until you see it. Well, there have been times when the only good angle that you have of the number is from behind. If the jump judge can't see your number, there could be a problem.

Ishi
Feb. 22, 2006, 10:16 AM
Just like some horses really do need to be booted out the wazoo (no matter what the level they are at), there are exceptions to everything, such as staying on your horse after XC. What annoys me, is when people (like I said in my first post, it seems to be kids, where are the trainers o teach them proper horsemanship in all this?) stay on after XC, just chatting, talking, going on and on. I know for most horses BN and N isn't a massive workout, but (to me anyway) it's more about good horsemanship then anything else. I had a high A/O jumper that was lead to the ring by his grooms in two stud chains, and he was safer to walk back to the barn on him, then off. He was perfectly safe to ride in the warm up and the ring, just a holy terror before and after his classes, so, like I said, I'm OK with exceptions, it just irks me to see people sitting around, chatting, when the horse is hot, tired, and just tried hard for it's rider.

KellyS, I adore you, I loved be stabled near you that year at AEC, I felt less anal and compulsive looking over at you guys and seeing I'm not the only nut. And I say nut filled with love, because I'm the same way! I think that the fact your boy is going so strong at 22 is a testament to your great care!

Cobee
Feb. 22, 2006, 10:29 AM
okay so I'm guilty
I wear WHITE BREECHES....

My horse is a 'grey' Paint, she looks white/grey, the black tack white breeches black jacket combo look great on her!
An honestly I feel more appropriately dress for Dressage that way. Sometimes I were them all day sometimes I change, like when it's raining.

But I am a stickler for everything to be clean and neat http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

So some i my mention phopas
http://www.hoofpix.com/ghf1-04-coo-dye/Deberadinis-062004m2-388.cfm (http://www.hoofpix.com/snow-04-coo-don/Deberadinis-080704-676.cfm)
white breeches and color helmet cover in Stadium
http://www.hoofpix.com/ghf1-04-coo-dye/Deberadinis-062004m2-388.cfm
here I'm even color coordinated with the fence

mjedge808
Feb. 22, 2006, 10:38 AM
Well, i think the great thing is about eventing, everyone can have their opinion. in hunters, if you don't comform, sometimes you don't place. i think that's terrible.

for me, i like a very clean horse, polished hooves, even on XC (helps them with mud, too), and i don't usually braid as long as my horse's mane is properly pulled. Championships, i braid. the only exception to my not-braiding is when i ride my horse with a long mane, i french braid down the neck like Arabs/Spanish horses. just to keep it neat and keep it from tangling or distracting me.

i love fun colors, my fav is Cobalt/Royal blue! i think that XC can be fun. if your colors are what you love and give you a good feeling, then go for it. whether it's neon fushia or conservative hunter green.

and i hate white breeches! but i have to say, i have seen people ride white breeches with a hunter green coat and white gloves (not at eventing, at an IDA show) and it was very attractive. of course it also looked great with the cool pony she was on.

i think to each their own as long as all involved are safe happy and healthy. but i myself like to look presentable and neat (thank you to QH showmanship classes!!)

fargonefarm
Feb. 22, 2006, 10:46 AM
I think neon is possibly the worst thing that ever happened to eventing... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
However, I will be the one this season with a very blinged browband. I'm such a hypocrite http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AngelEventer
Feb. 22, 2006, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by deltawave:


--I always go http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif when I see the BN horses decked out with enough gear to go around Badminton, including overgirths, FOUR bell boots, humongous bits, giant studs, etc...I am, however, guilty of using an overgirth when I was at Novice level. I soon got over myself and am embarrassed about it now. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


OOPs... I'm guilty of the 4 bell boots things... and the big studs... but I do have my reasons... actually, the mare is sporting one of those reasons on her left hind coronet band right now... she cuts herself pretty good when she has studs in and no bells behind - and I use (semi) big studs when its anything less than acceptable footing - only because she gets nervous if she starts slipping a lot.

But my pet peeves?:

ill fitting equipment

dirty tack

dirty saddle pad

dirty horse

not tidy (hair, horse's hair, etc)

helmets that look like they MUST have seen better days.

AngelEventer
Feb. 22, 2006, 10:52 AM
awww... you mean this - http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/AngelEventer/Picture167.jpg is too much for most of you? - haha - I think I was a little loopy that day, I have no CLUE why I did that with her bell boots...

this is more typical of her turnout:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/AngelEventer/trakehner_edited-1.jpg

but this:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/AngelEventer/Picture499.jpg
geez http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

InVA
Feb. 22, 2006, 11:08 AM
AWE! that poor girl with her purple and pink - she looks like she's having fun though - but hopefully she'll learn to rein in her crest release and stick her foot out in front of her when the jumps get a little bigger...;-)

curlykarot
Feb. 22, 2006, 11:20 AM
For me, turn out at a show - even unrecognized - should be neat and clean. Make sure your horse is clean and your tack should at least LOOK clean, even if it isn't (shiny dirt).

I would rather see a nicely pulled mane than a sloppy braid job.

And as for colors - I have no problem with them. I think it’s great. Please leave the sparkly purple and pink to the kids though! One of my friend's moms said this to me one time and I thought it made sense - "How else am I supposed to know it’s her way out on the xc course?" The girl had a bay TB gelding. And it’s true; with her colors you could definitely find her out on course!
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Edited to add: I have no problem with colors - Just make sure it is all the same shade!

AngelEventer
Feb. 22, 2006, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by InVA:
AWE! that poor girl with her purple and pink - she looks like she's having fun though - but hopefully she'll learn to rein in her crest release and stick her foot out in front of her when the jumps get a little bigger...;-)

hehe... yeah, that's my sister - that mare was great for her, but now she has a bugger of a TB to work with - With that mare though, we WANTED her to release that much, to keep the mare jumping and happy... the mare had never jumped until she turned 19 - then we got her and took her from the arab show rings and stuck her in a field with 4 beasts and took her eventing! In that pic she's 21, and jumping strong...

NRB
Feb. 22, 2006, 11:34 AM
my pet peeves are:

Poeple who don't appreciate their blowing, hot, tired horses effort and get off and walk to the trailers after XC (obvious exceptions already mentioned)

People who repeatedly whack their horses w/ whip after the horse refuses a jump the rider did a very poor job in presenting to the horse. If it's your own bad judgement then don't blame the horse. I do think that an event horse should be able of jumping a 3 foot fence from a trot and able to jump from a funny distance but beating them over a fence has never been a training method of mine.

All that matchy matchy color cordination of everything (I do love to match a helmet cover w/ the shirt like jocky silks)

But confess to being guilty of:
hairy ears, my horse gets trim on the outside only after dealing w/ horrible ear sarcoids.

using bell boots and the smallest studs I can find at BN and N because the horse did slip the hind and loose confidence once and now has pour in pads up front which offer very little traction. But back in the day I compeated training on a horse w/ 4 regular pads who had no traction problems and no need for studs.

Each horse is a unique individual and should be treated as such. But I agree that if a BN-N level horse needs big honkin Olympic sized studs to do XC then maybe they shouldn't be an event horses.

Nancy!
Feb. 22, 2006, 11:43 AM
Quote by curlykarot: "One of my friend's moms said this to me one time and I thought it made sense - "How else am I supposed to know it’s her way out on the xc course?" The girl had a bay TB gelding. And it’s true; with her colors you could definitely find her out on course!"

I found the same thing when I rode my bay mare. So now I ride Paints and you can tell who I am even with my hunter/navy outfit all coordinated. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Of course I now need colours for my black and white filly.

I think those people who are getting too uptight about eventing turnout need to have a few more beverages. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Or head on over to the hunters (really - only kidding!)

Nancy!

Hollywood
Feb. 22, 2006, 11:52 AM
People walking up to me and telling me what place I am in before I want to know. If I want to know, I'll look

AMEN!

KellyS
Feb. 22, 2006, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Ishi:
KellyS, I adore you, I loved be stabled near you that year at AEC, I felt less anal and compulsive looking over at you guys and seeing I'm not the only nut. And I say nut filled with love, because I'm the same way! I think that the fact your boy is going so strong at 22 is a testament to your great care!

Ahhh, you just made my day! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And hey, my husband lovingly calls me a nut all the time - and I certainly am one when it comes to horse care. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif As they say, takes one to know one! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

glfprncs
Feb. 22, 2006, 12:00 PM
My pet peeves are the following:

1. The Westrop (petal) bell boots that flap and make a god-awful noise every time the horse moves its foot. I know some of you swear by them, but I think they're HIDEOUS!

2. Can't stand white breeches in general, however, they're made even worse by individuals who don't know how to wear appropriate underwear beneath them. HELLO!!!! We can see through them, and I really don't care to see if you're wearing granny panties, striped bikinis, or, EEK!, nothing (seriously...I was at an event once and this poor girl was in show jumping with really thin white breeches on. Every time she'd go over a jump heading away from us, we'd see the outline of her butt crack. EW!)!

3. Too much of any color. I'm a bit conservative in my beige breeches, hunter green shirt, hunter green helmet cover and hunter green vest. I don't really care to see any poor steed with green dripping off his body (i.e. green saddle pad, green wool overgirth, green wool breastcollar, green vetrap around boots and irons, etc).

4. LOOSE HARNESSES ON HELMETS! For goodness sake...but the freakin' chin strap under your CHIN. It's not a boob strap, and is not supposed to hang below your breasts!

bweventer
Feb. 22, 2006, 12:13 PM
Haha well i am guilty of neon colors. I did tone it down w/ navy blue. I only wore a neon green shirt and neon chevrons on my helmet cover. except for the one time that I had neon green bell boots, but that was an emergency situation that I will never live down.
Sadly I decided to change my colors b/c of the people that started to over do it. Now all these kids run around in neon everything. So I decided to be boring and make my colors plain old navy blue! My mom does have more trouble finding me now! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

wendy
Feb. 22, 2006, 12:22 PM
I love the colors on xc. And the people who choose conservative colors, that's great too.

I have to admit I am often guilty of showing up at unrecognized events with, gasp, a horse who hasn't been bathed recently and a dirty bridle. Who has time? If I devote an entire weekend day to a horse trial, that means the other weekend day is a non-stop riot of non-horsey related chores.

doccer
Feb. 22, 2006, 12:32 PM
alright, seriously now.....

The only thing i WANT to see at horse-trials/events is the same thing i wanna see at ANY SHOW http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Clean, Organized, and Ready!!

Nancy! - If you go with different colors for the chestnut, it must be bright, cuz as stated we'll never find you if you don't http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And I am going to stick up for PINK!! I'm on the conservative side (lite pink pad, almost peachy) and actually did get the greatest pink bell boots with double black velcro enclosure http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Love them, I do have black galloping boots, but i also have pink electrical tape http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As Aerosmith says "Cuz Pink is my favorite Crayon!"

Nancy!
Feb. 22, 2006, 01:26 PM
Carol: Jet already has his hunter & navy. Now I can really bling up Mandy (Katmandu the black & white 4 year old) with red, purple, glitter? But sorry no pink for me. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nancy!

NMS
Feb. 22, 2006, 01:31 PM
GIANT PET PEEVE--those that leave every little piece of everything strewn in ten directons at once in the front of their stall, and spewing over into the stall next door. This includes but is not limited to open bags of grain, hay, and equipment within chewing range of competing beasties.

My secret to looking organized admist the chaos of doing three phases in one hour is tupperware. Lots and lots of it.

Whisper
Feb. 22, 2006, 01:39 PM
I feel silly! From the title, I assumed this would be about fencing, turnout in mixed groups of mares and geldings, and stuff like that.

I wore my rust breeches to my H/J shows this year, but I wouldn't make them mandatory for everyone. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The horse I'm part-leasing does all three phases in a plain french link, no martingale.

BarbB
Feb. 22, 2006, 02:05 PM
since we are also confessing our sins

I admit that everytime I walk by the horsey glitter in the tack shop my hand (of its own accord) reaches for a bottle. I think the thing that saves me is that there are so many to choose from. While I am deciding....my brain starts working again.
But I REALLY want to get some and...and....I don't know what to do with it. Paint him all over so that he looks like a 17h My Little Pony??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
But the urge is there.....so I totally understand the overcolored outfits on xc.
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tractor queen
Feb. 22, 2006, 02:08 PM
Sleeveless shirts (short sleeves are OK) with a cross country vest makes me cringe...I don't care how hot it is...or even if you are just schooling, yuck!

But I do wear white breeches (and they took that stupid rule they had for 1 year saying they weren't proper out of the rulebook - thank you).

And I have the most hideous braids ever, but that is solely due to lack of talent on my part...plus my horse is a PIA about having his mane pulled so it can be really thick.

Last but not least - over bitting...some of those poor horses!

I think the colors make it fun for the younger crowd...I usually have a few dashes of green, but try to stick with traditional stuff.

hey101
Feb. 22, 2006, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by glfprncs:
Every time she'd go over a jump heading away from us, we'd see the outline of her butt crack. EW!)!


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Kementari
Feb. 22, 2006, 02:18 PM
I confess: my TB has glitter when we do the local gymkhanas. Glitter stars on his butt, to be precise. He hasn't died of embarassment yet, but then he's 20 and has learned to live with all sorts of strange things that the humans in his life do. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

(And the glitter is not pink. Just for the record.)

I have put my foot down on the subject of glitter for eventing, though, much to my partner's chagrin.

Another admission: I find banged and pulled tails absolutely ugly. My horses show with all the tail hairs nature gave 'em. I trim the bottoms if they get too long, but I do it uneven-like so they still look natural, and I use gel on the top part to keep the hairs from going every-which-way, which to me looks soooo much better than pulled.

Should this keep me from getting to Rolex, so be it. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

hey101
Feb. 22, 2006, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Kementari:
Glitter stars on his butt, to be precise.

This reminded me of one... quarter marks. I like the traditional patterns (ie, checkered), but I saw a horse at one event that had this... scene drawn on his butt. It looked like there was a moon on there, and a tree, and some kind of person and I think random symbols like hearts and stars. I had to give them props for originality and artistic talent, but... good lord.

Although, I did just come up with the brilliant idea to create a "For Sale" quarter mark on my two for-sale horses when I start competing them this spring? Tacky? Of course. Creative? I think so. Gets me a few inquiries? I hope so!!

Sannois
Feb. 22, 2006, 02:56 PM
OK Heres a dumb question! What the heck is the purpose of rear bell boots??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Janet
Feb. 22, 2006, 03:05 PM
Sleeveless shirts (short sleeves are OK) with a cross country vest makes me cringe...I don't care how hot it is...or even if you are just schooling, yuck!
Against the rules, too.

hopashore1
Feb. 22, 2006, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by glfprncs:
My pet peeves are the following:

1. The Westrop (petal) bell boots that flap and make a god-awful noise every time the horse moves its foot. I know some of you swear by them, but I think they're HIDEOUS!


BUT those lazy course-walkers who don't know enough sense to get OUT of the way from the jump are more likely to turn their heads with that weird sound coming up behind them!

Bad sportsmanship from riders. If you are able, get off your horse after cross-country and cool him out. Even if afterward you re-mount to walk back to the trailer (at Fair Hill, it would take me an extra hour were I to handwalk all the way back to parking!)

Kids(well, people overall) who get upset at their horses when courses don't go as planned. It's not usually the horse's fault, give it a pat and chalk it up to a learning experience.

I personally don't mind the bright colors--as a jump judge it certainly makes it more memorable. I like my black and red, though.

I also think it is cute when it is obvious that the kids on their fat little ponies braided themselves. I'd rather see that sort of learning job than the parent who braids for the child all the time.

People who overestimate their horses abilities and then blame it on the horse when things don't go well (see number one). I know my horse's limits athletically, and I hate to see the game little guys out there who just can't quite do what is being asked, whether it is in terms of time, size of fence, etc.

Kementari
Feb. 22, 2006, 03:34 PM
BUT those lazy course-walkers who don't know enough sense to get OUT of the way from the jump are more likely to turn their heads with that weird sound coming up behind them!

Ah, this reminds me of my biggest eventing pet peeve: *%^&$ idiots walking the xc course who don't seem to realize that, while my horse is very game, HE DOES NOT JUMP PEOPLE!! A local h/j instructor who brought some kids to a schooling event actually TOLD the kids not to worry about the horses while they were walking the course because, "They'll just go around you." http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Kap
Feb. 22, 2006, 03:47 PM
So wait just a second...

I ALWAYS thought that White breeches were the ONLY appropriate color to wear with a black jacket in Dressage. And I ALWAYS thought that tan breeches were to be worn with a NAVY jacket in Dressage. Is the majority opinion actually that tan breeches look better with a black jacket in Dressage?

AngelEventer
Feb. 22, 2006, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Sannois:
OK Heres a dumb question! What the heck is the purpose of rear bell boots??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Well there are a few, in my case:

1. She has pulled shoes in the past by stepping with one hind foot, onto the other hind foot.

2. They keep her from injuring her coronet band and down, she has a nice ding (actually its closer to a puncture, but not quite) right now from me jumping her without them, and she has winter snowshoes on right now - I guess I'm going to have to start schooling stadium with hinds on now too!

She's really close behind, so she often steps on her hind feet, and with studs it can do some pretty good damage.

AngelEventer
Feb. 22, 2006, 04:34 PM
another idea for a thick mane (i saw this on a stallion we looked at for our mares) - shave half of it, length wise. This way, when you braid, it covers up the shaven part, but it also isn't as thick to braid.

Part-Time Angel
Feb. 22, 2006, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Kap: Aefvue Young'un:
After reading over the past posts, I must say that I don't like pink on horses, no matter what color they are. Everyone has a right to wear pink, of course, but I don't like it even if it IS "toned down" by navy. I find it rather garish (Sp?) and unprofessional looking (unless there are top level riders out there in pink that I don't know about). And it is not an incredibly dignified color for the horse to have to wear. My only cross country color is black, and if I have to pick a second color I go for white. I like to let my horse show himself off, not show my tack/colors off.

By the way, what do you mean when you say white breeches are not appropriate or don't look good at the lower levels? I don't think it's correct to wear tan breeches with my black dressage jacket, now is it?

I'm confused if this is a general post or not, since you are clearly speaking to me based on the colours. By your suggestion that pink is not a dignified colour for a horse to wear, I ask do you actually think a horse can reason enough to be embarrassed by the colours it's wearing? By that token I could say my horse likes pink. Afterall, she refuses to drink from any bucket but her pink one at shows... And the only blanket she won't trash the night before a show is her pink/navy plaid one... I understand people not liking the colour - that's completely expected, but being dignified is not really a concern in my mind. I will ride the same (perhaps attract more attention, for better or worse) whether I'm in pink or not, and I don't think my horse really minds. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Thanks easteregg for the lucinda photo. I was going to answer but you beat me to it. Theres another rider whose very nice to watch in my area (currently down south) who goes intermediate at least (perhaps Advanced) who goes in pink and black. I'm sure there's more.

PiedPiper
Feb. 22, 2006, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by AngelEventer:
another idea for a thick mane (i saw this on a stallion we looked at for our mares) - shave half of it, length wise. This way, when you braid, it covers up the shaven part, but it also isn't as thick to braid.

Can you explain a little more about this. My boy HATES his mane being pulled and would love to thin it without him completely freaking out. I can't wait to start braiding. Hoping he will be a little better or y'all will see some of that crappy braiding on him! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

FlightCheck
Feb. 22, 2006, 07:36 PM
We do this on the Welsh/TB cross, who has an incredibly thick thick thick mane.

1. Fold the mane over to the left side with your hand/arm.

2. With the clippers held horizontally, go either from ears towards withers or withers towards ears, and just take an eeny weeny bit of the mane off. Step back and look at mane. Repeat.

3. I do this until the thickness of the mane is just like a properly pulled one.

4. Braid as usual. I get tons of compliments on Magic's braids at shows.

Do NOT use the clippers vertically, because at that moment the horse will move and have a chunk out of the mane.

Avra
Feb. 22, 2006, 07:38 PM
IIRC from pony club, white breeches are (technically/ traditionally) only correct with a pink coat; light tan is correct with black. The majority of people around here wear white, but tan does seem to be slightly more popular than it used to be. Personally, I think either is fine, but tan is easier to keep clean and can be worn for other things. I actually like a plain navy coat with a stock tie for dressage better than black, too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have to admit that I have been guilty of pretty much all of the turnout sins, from schooling XC in a sleeveless shirt under a vest to riding with my hair in a ponytail--so I don't mind looking the other way for other people. As long as the horse is shiny and happy, who cares if its tail is pulled?

PiedPiper
Feb. 23, 2006, 05:35 AM
Thanks Flightcheck!

His isn't too bad, not super thick, but is SO awful about pulling that I have been dying for an alternative. Shoot, he even gets upset if the blades start to dull and there is any slight pulling with the cutting. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Will do this on my retired guy too just to help lessen his extremely thick mane. I hate to pull anyway so thanks for the tip! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Reynard Ridge
Feb. 23, 2006, 06:07 AM
Is the majority opinion actually that tan breeches look better with a black jacket in Dressage?
I believe the key words here are "majority" and "opinion." http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

To answer majority, we would need a poll. MY opinion is that tan breeches, be they with a navy or a black jacket look great and are worn by what appear to be the majority in my neck of the woods. White belongs in straight dressage.

But. That is my OPINION. And I am quite possibly in the minority. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

AngelEventer
Feb. 23, 2006, 07:08 AM
As far as I understand it, the proper colors in eventing would be canary breeches with a black jacket - but canary is hard to come by, so buff is the filler - and your show shirt and stock tie are actually supposed to be canary also, to go with your breeches, but again, most go with buff/beige because canary is so hard to find.

I think that most say "white" when speaking of formal/informal (going back to PC roots here..) because it is easier to remember, but if you actually look in the book there are a whole lot of other colors that go with the black jacket.

Classic Melody
Feb. 23, 2006, 08:15 AM
Can someone explain to me about pulled TAILS - how does this work and WHY do you do it? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

(disclaimer: new convert from hunters where they pull manes only!)

Jazzy Lady
Feb. 23, 2006, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Classic Melody:
Can someone explain to me about pulled TAILS - how does this work and WHY do you do it? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

(disclaimer: new convert from hunters where they pull manes only!)

You are pulling the hairs on the dock, underneath and on the lower side of the sides. This is to create a smooth look of the tail. The tails on top are left alone, you are just working on making the tail look nice along the butt and the way I look to see if it's done well is if it sits nicely and smoothly on the bum without hairs sticking out, and then I hold it up and if hairs fall down and don't just follow a nice arch of the tail then they need to be pulled.

I hope that made sense. I'm sorry if I confused you more http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jazzy Lady
Feb. 23, 2006, 08:41 AM
Re: Breeches. TAN all the way! For all three phases. I'm hoping to get navy top hat and tails in which case I'll probably still wear my tan breeches.

My horse is flashy as hell (big chestnut, four white socks and a blaze and presence) I feel like too much contrast would take away from him in the ring. (I'm strange, what can I say)

I used to compete in white ALL the time, for everything, but I went through breeches VERY fast. In Ontario, most people wear white breeches. When I went to Florida to be a ws I needed a new pair of breeches. I bought a pair of tan breeches on a whim and I never put my white ones on while I was down there. They haven't touched my behind once since. I am in love with my tan ones. SOOO much more flattering too.

alterforsaftey
Feb. 23, 2006, 09:22 AM
joy bitching, my favorite ;-) lol

I dislike:

Bands in the mane (they can be so ugly)
Petal bell boots (ugh that noise)
Endurance clothes on eventers
People who do not look before they adjust fence height as your riding at warm up fence.
Jackass's who flood stalls by not turning hose off!
Jackass's who do not roll the hose they just borrowed up!
Jackass's who fill up your muck bucket and do not dump it!
People who squeeze in between trailers so you can not walk by let alone tie to your own trailer
Rider's galloping around BN and N warm up at prelim speeds, for BN and N
people who ride back to barn after XC (the horse did his job, get off) I will not let my students ride back to barn, get off and loosen girth. Give horse a big pat. Exception I know some riders have to get on another horse straight away.

Lastly

BBQ line jumpers! Hey we are all hungry and seeing a buddy in line who was not holding your spot but damn he/she is 5 from the chow! Come on! Just kidding ;-) LOL I typically head for the hotel but hear people complaining ;-)

mjedge808
Feb. 23, 2006, 10:53 AM
i have a tip for those who like to pull manes instead of cutting, but whose horses don't care for it...Chloraseptic! the throat spray! for some horses, spraying a small amount on the base of the mane as you pull numbs the skin enough that the horse doesn't feel it. it does get a little sticky, so i recommed shampooing the mane afterwards. but it has worked for me.

also, for white breeches, i totally agree: i don't need to know that your underwear has bunnies on it...they do sell bike shorts that are white and thin that fit under breeches. they usually end mid-thigh and mask underwear and underwear lines. you don't notice the faint line on the thigh most of the time. for me, better that than bunnies. of course, they are not very comfy in 90+ degrees or anything, but they work. i did that when i showed dressage in college and the rule with our trainer was NO UNDERWEAR LINES if you wear white breeches.

another pet peeve: kids on the loose! they should be leashed, like your dog!

Moonie
Feb. 23, 2006, 10:57 AM
I feel good, my N horse is in a loose ring snaffle, all black tack (he is grey) and has 4 black woof boots. His colors are Navy,Black and silver/white.

I was thinking of doing somthing pink to show his personality more (not a very umm... masculine gelding) but decided not too as that would of been kida ugly looking.

Oh, and my peeves are:

1. Polos on XC where there is a water jump...
2. People who dont say thank you to gate people.
3. dirty grey horses. I have one, they arent THAT hard to keep clean.

doccer
Feb. 23, 2006, 11:36 AM
I'm Getting tired of the pink bashing.... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

I need thicker skin apparently.

If you go overboard on any color it can detract from a picture.

Hello, i'm getting cranky, and i like pink!

Please someone stop me http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif (He wears black front galloping boots, with a stripe of pink tape at the top-a stripe of pink tape on the reins (by the bit)-and the rose/grey saddle pad) He only gets the pink bell boots when we school..... Someone validate all the pink!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

(disclaimer - I *may* be at work... and I *may* be bored http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

Magnolia
Feb. 23, 2006, 11:58 AM
Hat Covers. They just don't work over the new approved helmets - they look weird. Buy a velvet hat or a dark colored plastic helmet. Also, practice putting your hair up. I wear a hairnet every ride - takes 10 seconds to do- and I do hunter hair. If I exposed my ears, it would take 5 seconds and still look neat.

Also, bad braid jobs look really bad. Far better to have everything else perfect then having a rushed braid job. If you can't do it right, don't do it. It seems like a lot of people braid the night before or something.....

The nicest thing about events is that most people (even those with deficient turnout) seem to be happy to be there and genuinely pleased and in love with their horses. I'd rather see a rider with paper thin white breeches, an awfully braided horse, too big boots, a bright pink saddlepad and protective boot overload with a big smile after completing cross country than a perfectly coiffed and turned out rider on a perfectly braided and turned out horse sporting a scowl.....

InVA
Feb. 23, 2006, 11:59 AM
My tack doesn't match.. black dressage saddle brown bride. both are clean and in good repair though.

What's the deal with that white tape for braids? Is he an event horse or getting ready to pull the beer wagon? (bless his heart)

BarbB
Feb. 23, 2006, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by doccer:
I'm Getting tired of the pink bashing.... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif



awww, don't worry about it. I think it looks great!

IfWishesWereHorses
Feb. 23, 2006, 01:33 PM
Its thanks to reading this thread that Ive come to the realisation that I DO have a peeve...!!!

I hate seeing people riding without gloves.

Have no idea why, but I really hate it...

Nancy!
Feb. 23, 2006, 03:10 PM
"White belongs in straight dressage. "

Okay, so it's the end of the day but I first read this as "White belongs in a straight jacket" which is what would happen to me if I had to keep it clean. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Doccer: You and doccer boy look good in pink. It's not my favorite color that's all.

Nancy!

PiedPiper
Feb. 23, 2006, 03:13 PM
Bad Riding and a poor attitude is my pet peeve. Beyond that I could care less though I do raise an eyebrow at some of the neon colors.

C'est la vie http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sunnycher
Feb. 23, 2006, 03:14 PM
HI, well I like a clean, trimmed horse, clean, well fitted rider. I trim my horses ears, muzzle and feet (they are 1/2 draft and have feathers). I will be roaching my mare's mane this year because it is about 4" wide and soooo thick, I don't know what else to do?

But, with regards to the colors, I think to each his/her own. Some people are just more flamboyant and like to show their personalities in the colors they choose. I don't wear neon, but love blue and/or red.

As for "over-tacked", don't love it. The old addage "less is more" suits me just fine.

sunnycher
Feb. 23, 2006, 03:16 PM
Oh, one more thing, no offense, but this thread seems a bit out of character for this board. IMO, gina

Janet
Feb. 23, 2006, 03:19 PM
Other people can wear white britches if they want. But I am incapable of keeping them clean, so I would rather be seen in clean looking tan britches than grubby looking "white" ones.

Hair should be neatly contained so it doesn't cover the pinney number. If your pony tail/braid is short enough, fine. If it is so long it covers the number (like mine) braid it and fold it under so it doesn't.

The attire rules are clearly written. DON'T wear sleveless shirts on cross country. DON'T wear an illegal helmet cover in stadium (only solid balck or dark blue are permitted).

BarbB
Feb. 23, 2006, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by sunnycher:
Oh, one more thing, no offense, but this thread seems a bit out of character for this board. IMO, gina

One thing about this thread is people cheerful confessing to committing the sins that are other's pet peeves.
Nobody really cares http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RAyers
Feb. 23, 2006, 03:52 PM
Fine,

I DID IT! I DID IT ALL!!!!!

I don't braid my horse's unpulled mane! Gloves? Screw gloves! I have mixed tweed with solid pink petal bell boots while I wore white breeches after Labor Day. Clipping? I prefer to clip only the left side all the way to the skin. Forget cleaning and fixing tack. It is only going to get ruined when I hit the water. Why should I even walk my horse back to the stall? I got an exhibitor's party to get to. If you think I am cleaning up my area after an exhausting XC round, you got another think coming. I paid for that stall so I am going to use as much space as possible.

Reed

BarbB
Feb. 23, 2006, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by RAyers:
Forget cleaning and fixing tack. It is only going to get ruined when I hit the water. Reed


there ya go, mixing fact and fiction again
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Kap
Feb. 23, 2006, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Part-Time Angel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kap: Aefvue Young'un:
After reading over the past posts, I must say that I don't like pink on horses, no matter what color they are. Everyone has a right to wear pink, of course, but I don't like it even if it IS "toned down" by navy. I find it rather garish (Sp?) and unprofessional looking (unless there are top level riders out there in pink that I don't know about). And it is not an incredibly dignified color for the horse to have to wear. My only cross country color is black, and if I have to pick a second color I go for white. I like to let my horse show himself off, not show my tack/colors off.

By the way, what do you mean when you say white breeches are not appropriate or don't look good at the lower levels? I don't think it's correct to wear tan breeches with my black dressage jacket, now is it?

I'm confused if this is a general post or not, since you are clearly speaking to me based on the colours. By your suggestion that pink is not a dignified colour for a horse to wear, I ask do you actually think a horse can reason enough to be embarrassed by the colours it's wearing? By that token I could say my horse likes pink. Afterall, she refuses to drink from any bucket but her pink one at shows... And the only blanket she won't trash the night before a show is her pink/navy plaid one... I understand people not liking the colour - that's completely expected, but being dignified is not really a concern in my mind. I will ride the same (perhaps attract more attention, for better or worse) whether I'm in pink or not, and I don't think my horse really minds. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Thanks easteregg for the lucinda photo. I was going to answer but you beat me to it. Theres another rider whose very nice to watch in my area (currently down south) who goes intermediate at least (perhaps Advanced) who goes in pink and black. I'm sure there's more. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well then I guess there ARE high level horse/riders in pink. I never said there weren't, just that I didn't know of any. I understand your point that horses don't reason enough to be embarassed by their colors, I agree. But... some dumb humans don't have the sense to know that they have a "kick me" sign on their back, their underwear is sticking out of their pants, and they've got toilet paper stuck to their shoe. That doesn't mean it's ok to let them walk around looking like a fool. Sometimes you've got help have their dignity, even if they don't know you're doing it, and they don't have the ability to thank you for it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Look, I don't think bright pink looks good. However, who CARES? It's really just my opinion. It's not worth more than your opinion that pink DOES look good. We're equals here. We just disagree, which we're all allowed to do. If "being dignified is not really a concern in [your] mind" then that's fine. I don't obsess over it either. I just like to present myself and my horse in a way that shows off our professionalism and seriousness about the sport. I don't go to work wearing a bright pink pants suit, and I don't go out on cross country having dressed myself and my horse in that same bright pink color. Cross country is part of my horse's job, and I like to outfit him accordingly. I think if he DID have the ability to reason, he'd thank me. But who knows.

By the way, Part-Time Angel, please leave the http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif out of your posts when they are directed towards me. I respect you and your opinion, and I'd like you to respect me and mine. Thanks! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

fargonefarm
Feb. 23, 2006, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by sunnycher:
Oh, one more thing, no offense, but this thread seems a bit out of character for this board. IMO, gina

Wow, I never knew Eventers had a character for this board. I thought we were all off-character. Shoot...I liked it better that way....

Could someone tell me if the character is next to the hoof glitter at the tack store... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

EventingJ
Feb. 23, 2006, 08:27 PM
definatly some answers in this thread i'd never expect from the eventing crowd http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

ill-fitting tack irks me. tack that looks like its never been oiled, taken care of ismt nice either.

Other then that the only thing I find troublesome are the horses that looked like they've been ridden twice in the past year, pulled out of the pasture with mud caked in their dull coat, under fed, under weight under muscled, etc competing at a recognized show.

Most of the things that bother me come from pony club mantra that was engraved in my brain at an early age.

Kap
Feb. 23, 2006, 08:30 PM
I agree about the horses that look like they've been pulled out of retirement to plod around a recognized show. Some of them look like they need immediate farrier care and a rigorous worming regimen.

Lisamarie8
Feb. 23, 2006, 08:53 PM
I wear pink-flamed pattered gear, with a purple tartan saddle pad...and by gear I mean breeches and body protector. Because my top for cross-country, to balance the flame-pattern, is a solid color. It’s a fantastic Swarovski crystal tube top.

In order to get around the sleeveless rule I wear shoulder length gloves, they look just like sleeves. Leopard print ones. I love them. I’m totally sticking it to the man.

My hat has a disco ball inspired hat cover

And while I have short hair, I get a long Cher-like wig and put it on under my helmet. I look like Mush Mouth. Sure, I get lost a great deal, and absolutely it adds a level of difficulty to drops that would not be there otherwise, but I look FANTASTIC!

Also?

I wear petal bell boots around my wrists. That way? When I'm brushing my flowing locks out of my face as Ozzy tears around at 7 ½ mpm? It sounds like I'm playing castanets. PINK GLITTER castanets.

Part-Time Angel
Feb. 23, 2006, 09:02 PM
Kap, I am respecting your opinion just as much as you are respecting mine, and I apologize for the face. It is definitely respectful for you to say you disagree about pink, you don't think it looks good etc, but as the face may not have been needed, is it really neccessary to go on about how dignified it is or isn't? I don't know, I just think it's hard to judge someones professionalism and dignity by a colour.

It's fair for others to have an initial impression of course, but why not see the INDIVIDUAL wearing the colour ride and then allow the initial impression the pink gives you to either stay or leave, rather than preach about lack of dignity in general.

I didn't mean professionalism isn't important to me, but I guess I just don't have a lot to say to those who judge someone based on a colour. If I have to prove myself because of the colour I use, so be it, it's worth it when I get just as many smiles for it.

Kap
Feb. 23, 2006, 09:02 PM
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Thanks for the laugh, Lisamarie.

Kap
Feb. 23, 2006, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Part-Time Angel:
It's fair for others to have an initial impression of course, but why not see the INDIVIDUAL wearing the colour ride and then allow the initial impression the pink gives you to either stay or leave, rather than preach about lack of dignity in general.

I didn't mean professionalism isn't important to me, but I guess I just don't have a lot to say to those who judge someone based on a colour. If I have to prove myself because of the colour I use, so be it, it's worth it when I get just as many smiles for it.

Good points. For the sake of discussion, I must say... If I should only judge people based on their ride and the individual who is riding, then shouldn't the same concept apply to any turnout pet-peeves? The same concept should apply to dirty tack, and messy ponytails. I should just turn a blind eye to any type of superficial flaws (or what consitute flaws IMHO), be it hot pink or ill-fitting saddle pads or glittery tails, according to your theory, because only the individual matters.

Not trying to draw this out, just think it's an interesting aspect of our sport. And I'm not trying to "preach," Part-Time Angel. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Part-Time Angel
Feb. 23, 2006, 09:26 PM
I think you must be up to no good Kap, you just hit 666 on you're posts. Ironically I think I passed it while debating with you.

For the sake of discussion, I believe it's fair enough to judge people on your initial impression, if it's founded. Something like bad braids - that's unprofessional. Messy hair, same thing. But a colour... I disagree. Why would a not widely accepted colour be in the same class of sin as dirty tack, messy ponytails etc. My horse is turned out to the nines, the grey is spotless, my braiding is very good, my xc boots are WHITE, my tack is in good shape, matches, and compliments the horse - much of it is even trendy if that matters, she goes prelim in a snaffle, nothing particularly unneccessary on her, and I buy what she needs - I just happen to buy it in pink. I understand that I may be looked down on compared to a rider who is dressed exactly the same, but in a neutral colour, but I don't think pink should put me in a class with someone who is slacking on turnout. I work hard at it.

You'll be even more mortified, but I like to think the pink doesn't take away entirely the expression of sheer joy on my horses face. (http://tetleyphoto.com/Galleries/BCCI5/CICOneStar/broc50409.htm?size=1&exif=)

People have come up to me and asked, "is this the grey who goes in pink? She looked great at the water" or something similar. A bright colour can make you memorable for positive things too. And to be perfectly honest, my dad is the type who once thought a palamino (not cremello) was me on my grey. The pink helps. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

fourhorses
Feb. 23, 2006, 09:56 PM
Wow this post has gotten long http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
So of course I think I'll have to add to its length.
I personally really don't like pink (or lime green, neon orange, or those funky patterned thingymabobs). And I hope that if I ever make it to a show in the near future my horse and I will not ever be decked out in such stuff.
But then I'm an old cow who's past it with no fashion sense to boot, at least this is what I believe my teenage daughters think (they of the neon froggies saddle pad and four different sets of neon colored polos to match said froggy pad -- which they insist on using for most every public occasion, even *gasp* a clinic w/ a dressage judge). They adore pink (and lime, and purple, and the little hippie flowers) on their horses, and have been known to give their old fart of a mother apoplexy by slipping the froggy pad in on me in place of my nice conservative white or black pads from time to time (the horror! the horror! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif)
Honestly, I don't really think it matters what colors you use on your horse (although I think one should look a bit conservative in the dressage ring, even at schooling shows) as long as you, your horse, and your tack are all healthy looking, fit well, and are well groomed (sickly looking and/or unkept, ill-prepared horses with grossly unfitting tack is my one and only real bugaboo). And it certainly doesn't affect me what other people choose to wear, as long as they choose not to ride in the nude! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif (unless of course George Clooney should perhaps care to --- but that might cause issues w/ Mr. M, so I'll drop it)
I must admit this has been a rather long debate for this forum at least over a color choice -- you sure you guys aren't closet dressage divas or hunter princesses in hiding? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif
(flame suit zipped and ducking the tomatoes as I type! he, he)

Kap
Feb. 23, 2006, 10:12 PM
Alright, let's let it rest. If it works for you, then great. I'm happy for you. Honestly, though, we aren't SUPPOSED to agree on everything. Think about it: if everyone thought exactly alike, and shopped in the same place, and wore the same clothes and had the same tastes, it'd be pretty boring, now wouldn't it? Let's just be glad we're all allowed our own opinion, and that there's no right or wrong answer.

By the way, your mare is very cute. Did you finish well?

This is my 667th post, just to prove to you I'm not evil.

Sancudo
Feb. 23, 2006, 10:17 PM
Wow, I just slogged through 7 pages, now I must add my own.

I am guilty of white tape braids (sometimes). I think they look really good on a horse with some white, and they draw attention to a nice neck. They also can mask any flyaway hairs on the braid job. But I'm a DQ mostly, so that's where that comes from.

I like the white breeches/ black jacket. I'll do tan for xcountry/ stadium.

I don't think anyone over the age of 14 and BN level should do glitter stars, hearts and neon colors out the wazoo, but heck, if it suits ya, then whatev.

I hate dull coats on horses.

BN people trying to look like Phillip Dutton. (I do have a CO with a rubber band, but that's because I wanted to look like a jockey, lol)

White gloves in lower level dressage, or any color other than black (cause honey, I bet your hand aren't still enough yet, and why have a flashing neon sign pointing at unsteady hands?)

One girl I've seen even spray painted her horse's roached mane neon green! Ewww!

Bad sportmanship/schooling after a ride.

Loose dogs.

Other trainers telling YOU how to ride.

Ohh, back to turn out, right, did I mention I hate a dull coat?

Dressage Art
Feb. 23, 2006, 10:36 PM
As soon as I've seen those sparkling babys, I wanted to start eventing just to wear one!!!

http://www.jennyoz.com/shop.asp

Sannois
Feb. 24, 2006, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by RAyers:
Fine,

I DID IT! I DID IT ALL!!!!!

I don't braid my horse's unpulled mane! Gloves? Screw gloves! I have mixed tweed with solid pink petal bell boots while I wore white breeches after Labor Day. Clipping? I prefer to clip only the left side all the way to the skin. Forget cleaning and fixing tack. It is only going to get ruined when I hit the water. Why should I even walk my horse back to the stall? I got an exhibitor's party to get to. If you think I am cleaning up my area after an exhausting XC round, you got another think coming. I paid for that stall so I am going to use as much space as possible.

Reed
LMAO Reed! Precisely!!!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sannois
Feb. 24, 2006, 04:38 AM
Angel for what its worth, thats tastefully done. And its not an obnoxious pink. And besides if you can do a drop into water like that you can where ANYTHING you want!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

4cornersfarm
Feb. 24, 2006, 05:26 AM
My personal pet peeves as a schooling event judge:

Half-chaps. That's right, some people wear half-chaps to a competition (for dressage.) It's against the rules and it looks awful. I'm not even talking about those half-chaps that look like boots, I'm talking the cheap brown suede ones. If you are going to compete at any level, at least look at the rules and do your best to abide by them. I will admit, a lot of rule bending goes on at these unsanctioned events, and I do not eliminate people for half-chaps, but I do often mention it in the rider remarks section. I don't take off for it, just give them a heads up. My students wear their best for any show, even the little 6" two-phases. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Second - I don't like synthetic saddles. Again, I don't mark down for it, but the squeaking drives me insane. For the price of a new synthetic saddle you can buy a decent used saddle, so I'm not trying to be an elitist.

JMHO. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JanWeber
Feb. 24, 2006, 05:33 AM
4cornersfarm - we use Wintec saddles because of the adjustable gullet. With a horse that changes shape frequently, we need to be able to adjust the saddle. So it's not a matter of a decent used saddle - it's a matter of two or three decent used saddles... both dressage and jumping, so four to six "decent used saddles"?

EventingJ
Feb. 24, 2006, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by Sancudo:
Loose dogs.


ooh i forgot about that one... esp loose dogs who come over to you while you are unloading your trailer and pee on your hay/tack/whatever might be a good thing to leave their mark on.. grr!

Fence2Fence
Feb. 24, 2006, 06:43 AM
What cracked me up about Kap's posts was this comment:
I find it rather garish (Sp?) and unprofessional looking (unless there are top level riders out there in pink that I don't know about)

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif So someone competing at an upper level will automatically change your opinion of pink?

I like Angel's pic of the drop fence... very nice! And the pink and navy blue is very tastefully put together--I love that shirt! I think a navy blue helmet cover with pink stars would be smashing.

tullyleague
Feb. 24, 2006, 07:01 AM
And while I have short hair, I get a long Cher-like wig and put it on under my helmet. I look like Mush Mouth. Sure, I get lost a great deal, and absolutely it adds a level of difficulty to drops that would not be there otherwise, but I look FANTASTIC!



<wiping away tears>

hey101
Feb. 24, 2006, 07:20 AM
Lisamarie- hilarious!
Part Time Angel- I agree with Sannois, and I have actually changed my mind a little bit. Your pink does look tasteful, and very nice on your grey, and certainly you and your horse have the skills to say EFF-YEW to whoever doesn't approve! It's the every-single-piece-of-tack-the-same-color that I dislike.

ponygotsport!
Feb. 24, 2006, 07:22 AM
Well, after many years of the H/J world ..I was so glad to join the HT world..I am happy that it is not about 'trends' but how you actually ride!

SO w/ that said, I am not picky. I don't match my color..but think it is great if you do.
If you love Neon..go for it..it is YOUR choice! Hey, it is easier to find yourself in the pics! LOL

Kids love glitter and loud color..I think it is grea tthat this sport lets them express tehmselves..even if I wouldn't do it..
I think it is neat to see kids really getting excited about showing off thier cool horse w/ gliter...it shows they do have a love for the animal and are having fun!


I do have to have a clean horse, I am a freak w/ my tail care...white tails should be white. With anything take pride in what you do.
Clean your tack, groom your horse well.
Braid for dressage..I feel you don't 'have' to braind for staduim. It is not Hunters after all!

Keep you hair neat, long hair, a nice braid will do.
Present your self w/ pride and in the end...have fun!
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JMO

Kap
Feb. 24, 2006, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by Fence2Fence:
What cracked me up about Kap's posts was this comment: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I find it rather garish (Sp?) and unprofessional looking (unless there are top level riders out there in pink that I don't know about)

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif So someone competing at an upper level will automatically change your opinion of pink?

I like Angel's pic of the drop fence... very nice! And the pink and navy blue is very tastefully put together--I love that shirt! I think a navy blue helmet cover with pink stars would be smashing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, that's not what I meant. I meant that to me, it looks unprofessional and a little garish at times, possibly because I really don't see many top riders doing it (maybe for a good reason? I also don't get out to top level events much). I would not automatically change my opinion of pink if I saw more pro riders wearing it. That would just be a sign of it becoming more of the norm, and less of a deviation from conservativism. Clear enough?

InVA
Feb. 24, 2006, 07:25 AM
don't braid my horse's unpulled mane! Gloves? Screw gloves! I have mixed tweed with solid pink petal bell boots while I wore white breeches after Labor Day. Clipping? I prefer to clip only the left side all the way to the skin. Forget cleaning and fixing tack. It is only going to get ruined when I hit the water. Why should I even walk my horse back to the stall? I got an exhibitor's party to get to. If you think I am cleaning up my area after an exhausting XC round, you got another think coming. I paid for that stall so I am going to use as much space as possible.
A-FREAKING- MEN !!! Its time to end this thread- we're turning into the hunters! yeesh! Everyone does the best they can do.. Let's concentrate on riding our horses well.

Kap
Feb. 24, 2006, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by hey101:
Lisamarie- hilarious!
Part Time Angel- I agree with Sannois, and I have actually changed my mind a little bit. Your pink does look tasteful, and very nice on your grey, and certainly you and your horse have the skills to say EFF-YEW to whoever doesn't approve! It's the every-single-piece-of-tack-the-same-color that I dislike.

No one has the "skills to say EFF-YEW to whoever doesn't approve." No one has to approve of anyone else's colors or tastes, only respect them. Personally, I try to do just that.

ponygotsport!
Feb. 24, 2006, 07:51 AM
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InVa!!
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isheventer
Feb. 24, 2006, 01:46 PM
What does anyone think about some of these very cool browbands people are making -

ponygotsport!
Feb. 24, 2006, 01:47 PM
I like um!

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mosmom
Feb. 24, 2006, 01:53 PM
I like them too! I just bought one http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Part-Time Angel
Feb. 24, 2006, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Kap: Aefvue Young'un:
Alright, let's let it rest. If it works for you, then great. I'm happy for you. Honestly, though, we aren't SUPPOSED to agree on everything. Think about it: if everyone thought exactly alike, and shopped in the same place, and wore the same clothes and had the same tastes, it'd be pretty boring, now wouldn't it? Let's just be glad we're all allowed our own opinion, and that there's no right or wrong answer.

By the way, your mare is very cute. Did you finish well?

This is my 667th post, just to prove to you I'm not evil.

Perhaps, I should have used more smilies. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I was joking I hope you realize. I don't expect to change you're mind, nor do I desire to, but I still like to defend myself and the colour if it's grouped with just plain slacking in turnout. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think we've both come to understand each others side as much as we ever will, but a worthwhile debate in my opinion. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thank you about my mare. It was our first (and only since I'm no longer riding) FEI and we were 11th which I was thrilled with considering I tend to be a bit of a Sunday driver on xc and picked up a ton of time faults in the heat that day.

Sannois, and Fence and hey - thanks! I'm the first to look away when I see a million kids gallavanting around with so much pink or purple I can't tell the colour of their horse from a distance so I tried to tone mine down, keep it tasteful http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I also spent last season riding with a respectable MALE Olympian, who had the power to disown me if he so chose. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif He tolerated the pink, and in exchange I tried not to embarrass him too much. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kementari
Feb. 24, 2006, 05:59 PM
4corners, you have judged me and my TB in our synthetic tack, and I appreciate not being marked down for the squeaking. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I assure you it annoys the heck out of me, too, but the Wintec with the narrow gullet is the ONLY saddle in my price range, used or otherwise, that fit my horse. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

I think it bears remembering, for ALL of our pet peeves (except maybe the color choice ones http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), that somewhere out there there is someone who is violating our sensibilities for a very good reason that, were they to explain it, we would in fact understand. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

One Star
Feb. 24, 2006, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by SBClancy:

For the most part I feel do whatever you're happy with but sometimes I just want to slap people on the side of the head and say what were you thinking.

You know, Jill, that's precisely what's been going through my head... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

pk1027
Feb. 24, 2006, 11:24 PM
read all eight pages. agree and disagree

neon is okay for young riders but i think if you wear more professional colors it will make it a bit more serious for you (like wearing uniforms for school, they are suppose to not distract you from your school) colors should not distract you from concentrating on riding and learning the course. The colors dont have to be navy or black, but something less distracting. You can be creative without being offensive.


Trainers always told me to wear white breeches in dressage and show jumping, that it was just a given thing you should do. Personally I think white breeches are more professional and just give and overall better appearence. Tan riding pants dont match with your white pad, not stock tie, etc. White pants match them all. If you are goign to wear tan you might as well change your whole gear around. Okay for show jumping to wear tan but i think for dressage it is more acceptable to wear white breeches.

One Star
Feb. 25, 2006, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Jazzy Lady:
Pet Peeves:

- Arm Band on leg... they are armbands for a reason! I think it looks rediculous (flame away) and makes legs look broken up and choppy.

- Shavings in braided mane

- Loose hair. Hair net, ALL the time, or show bows, but if you wear a show bow, still wear a hairnet to contain the rest of it.

- Unpolished brass. If you have brass, make it gleam, it's not difficult and it looks FABULOUS.

- Unpolished boots. They look SOOO much better when they are shiney!

- Lack of belt when not wearing a jacket.

I'm a turnout FREAK! Seriously, I think PTA and I were vying for a turnout prize at the Champs this year but they didn't reward one. If they had have I CLEARLY would have won http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif You don't mess with the queen of turnout.

Non turnout related:

- Watching people throw their horses away across the finish line and letting them fall onto their forehand on tired tendons.

- People walking up to me and telling me what place I am in before I want to know. If I want to know, I'll look.

- People who don't acknowledge the starter at the box AT ALL the whole time they are waiting.


Generally speaking, eventers as a discipline are pretty polite people. Not many will look down on others because they aren't wearing the right breeches, or the "in" helmets. If you are out and having fun, that's all that counts. As was said in the H/J forum, it doesn't cost money to make you and your horse clean and presentable. If you don't know how to braid, give it your best shot. You only learn by practicing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm sooo with you, Jazzy! We might have been separated at birth. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

CarrieK
Feb. 25, 2006, 10:59 PM
have a tip for those who like to pull manes instead of cutting, but whose horses don't care for it...Chloraseptic! the throat spray! for some horses, spraying a small amount on the base of the mane as you pull numbs the skin enough that the horse doesn't feel it.

How cool! Thanks for the tip. Don't know that I'd ever need it, but that's just the kind of thing to keep in the back of your mind.


little hippie flowers
Oh, god, I hate hippies with their hairy legs and patchouli and no sense of humor. Hippies are on my list, right next to people who legs are so thin they can fit armbands around 'em.

Oh, wait, you said hippie flowers.

Nevermind.

fourhorses
Feb. 25, 2006, 11:52 PM
Yes, just the hippie flowers, not the hippies Carrie. I too hate patchouli, smells like kitty litter and I think it's used as a cover up for lack of bathinghttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Not too fond of the cute little hippie flower saddle pad either (nor the technicolor froggies) http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif -- at least for me (what the kids put on underneath the saddle is their own thing). At least they don't smell like pathchouli though (kids or pads).

amandasnowy
Feb. 26, 2006, 07:00 AM
I love all the colors for XC!

My boyfriend races mountain bikes, and their jerseys and equipment always look so fun and athletic.

The first time he saw me dressed up for a dressage show he said, "Wow, you take a gorgeous animal, a beautiful, athletic woman, and you dress them up like uncomfortable waiters to go in and compete. Weird."

Anyway, I think that the colors, the vests, and the helmets are part of what gives XC the feeling of being a hardcore, ballsy, highly skilled SPORT. I'm all about the fun & utility =)

EmilyCraig
Feb. 26, 2006, 07:34 AM
I have always been curious to know why you see riders @ the top levels competing with black gloves, or no gloves in dressage...and then white gloves in stadium? Odd to me.

GoForAGallop
Feb. 26, 2006, 08:09 AM
I'm all for the colors on cross country; I had a similar experience as someone on here. My dad saw me all dressed up for dressage, and didn't say a word; when he next saw me all dressed up for cross country, he said I looked like I was actually going to go out and have some fun.

People think we're snobby anyway...even more so when we're dressed up so primly. The colors add a sense of fun to the whole thing. Horse shows are supposed to be fun, and heck, we're paying quite a big price to have that fun. I think we should be able to wear whatever we please, purple glitter and all! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I do have a less-conservative outfit, but it's not blinding anyone. I have orange and navy as my colors. But think the "Eskadron orange"...more of a burnt orange. No bright neon/hunter orange for me! My horse looks very nice in his orange w/navy piping pad, orange boots, and me in navy.

arnika
Feb. 26, 2006, 08:34 AM
By CarrieK
Oh, god, I hate hippies with their hairy legs and patchouli and no sense of humor.

LMAO! I thought I was the only one who still associates hippies with patchouli.... and hated it. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I love all the colors on the XC course(old lady that I am) and think everyone should go for it however they want. Spice of life and all that.

EmilyCraig, I too would like to know the reason behind black gloves in dressage phase. In straight dressage, lower level riders use black but switch to white at around 2nd-3rd level.

No true pet peeves for me since I'm always completely blind to all around me until our rounds are over and then I'm just looking for the bar. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ridexc
Feb. 26, 2006, 11:43 AM
I'll chime in FWIW.

Pet peeves: mane braided but forelock not. What's THAT about? I don't buy the "it's traditional with a stallion/mare/hermaphrodite" theory personally.

And braiding with elastics, not because you can't achieve the same results as with wool or yarn, but because many riders rip those braids out after dressage and let the elastics fall where they may. When I'm at an event I'm very mindful that I'm parking in someone's pasture or hayfield. I would hate the idea that the landowner's animals could be ingesting those elastics next time they graze that field! Wool or yarn, I figure, is much less harmful.

Another pet peeve is Professional's Choice boots. Not that I think they're bad boots, but if you're going to jump into water you're going to come out with waterlogged neoprene that will weigh down your horse's legs for the rest of the course. Not fair IMHO.

I'm a traditionalist with my colours (red and royal blue) but I don't particularly object to the brighter choices out there. For those who wanted an example of an upper-level rider who wears hot pink: how about Chelan Kozak? It looked absolutely fabulous on her four-star horse, Soweto, who is black, and Paddy, the gray she rode after that. And it's just so Chelan.

Also, Sharon White wears bright orange, which I think is great -- when I'm sorting out my photos from the three-days I can always identify her right away. <G>

ridexc
Feb. 26, 2006, 11:56 AM
And one more -- probably my biggest peeve of all: people who don't say thank you to the volunteers!! Any of my students who neglected to thank the tack check steward, the dressage and stadium gate stewards, the starter, the timers, or anyone else with a radio and/or clipboard, would get instantly clipped up the side of the head by me. These are the people who make it possible for us to show. You MUST acknowledge their efforts with politeness and genuine gratitude, every single time. Otherwise next weekend they'll stay home and watch football, and who could blame them? (Okay, steppig off soapbox now).

Wizard_of_Oz
Feb. 26, 2006, 12:44 PM
as long as your clean i'm happy

EXCEPT for xc colours
i like people who wear colours, but don't go over board
like any horse that is covered in their owners colour
i will use yellow as an example since pink is getting bashed
like come on, your over doing your colour when
your horse's bridle is wrapped in yellow, your stirrups, your horses boots, bell boots, saddle pad, reins, breastplate/martingale, helmet cover, your gloves, your shirt that is to much of one colour

i like people who will use a bright colour with a dark colour, like hot pink and black, horse has black boots, black bridle, no extra pink on stirrups/reins, gloves are black, saddle pad is hot pink, helmet cover is black with 2 pink stripes, and the rider has a black shirt with hot pink accents(a stripe on the sleeves and a on the back.

and people walking their course that get in the way of people on course XC

jkbarablover
Feb. 26, 2006, 02:58 PM
Ok, I am a hunter person that will be doing eventing now.. Many people complain about braiding poorly but how are braids sewn in as opposed to typical hunter braids? Thanks, I don't want to become anyone's pet peeve. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Grasshopper
Feb. 26, 2006, 03:18 PM
For those asking about sewn-in braids...see Robby's Braiding Clinic (http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/7086043131/m/7686043131), the authoritative treatise, er, post on the subject by our very own Robby Johnson! If you go to the "Reference" forum, there's also a tail guide right above it.

Although, if you do hunter braids, jkbarablover, you're more likely to inspire grudging awe, rather than become a pet peeve!!! I shudder at the memory from my hunter days of putting in 40 braids...I hear some now get 60 http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Eventer13
Feb. 26, 2006, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Sancudo:
One girl I've seen even spray painted her horse's roached mane neon green! Ewww!




Haha! I've seen her before too! Was it TTC?

juliab
Feb. 26, 2006, 04:52 PM
You guys are breaking my heart here! I thought eventers were the no nonsense, strictly substance over style types (unlike certain other disciplines which I won't mention). I would hope that the important thing in eventing is a horse and rider in SAFE tack, performing well. Let's not become little princesses where everything has to match and be in fashion. So, I guess my pet peeve are people getting critical about how braids and tails look and what colors are on the horse and rider. It shouldn't be important - the performance should be what counts!

deltawave
Feb. 26, 2006, 05:14 PM
Hey, we ARE generally pretty tolerant, but the OP *did* ask, and on top of being tolerant we are also opinionated. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ridexc, I must beg for a dispensation on not braiding forelocks. I cheerfully do so on my young horse, even though it makes her baby face look even MORE babyish. But my older mare HAS no forelock, at all, in the summer time. We're talking a 1.5" tuft of fine, fuzzy hair at best. It is one of her few flaws. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif After tearing half of it out trying to braid it and coming up with a misshapen raisin for a braid, I've given up. It "flies free"--all 1.5" of it--and you'd be hard pressed to know the difference. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Meredith Clark
Feb. 26, 2006, 05:23 PM
YAY for PINK (http://community.webshots.com/photo/388368714/1399749212068747398nBieso) ! I wear whatever I want! As long as I do well who's going to argue with me?

"you look like a fool" - "well i kicked your ass today so i guess something is working!"

ps-i don't always or often win, this is a conversation I have in my head http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif i've also added matching reins and some other features to my outfit

GoForAGallop
Feb. 26, 2006, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Meredith Clark:
YAY for PINK (http://community.webshots.com/photo/388368714/1399749212068747398nBieso) ! I wear whatever I want! As long as I do well who's going to argue with me?

"you look like a fool" - "well i kicked your ass today so i guess something is working!"

ps-i don't always or often win, this is a conversation I have in my head http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif i've also added matching reins and some other features to my outfit

WHERE on EARTH is the pink saddle pad? Pink bell boots? I'm horrified. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (I love it!)

The only color I'm not too fond of is baby blue, simply because I don't think it flatters a lot of horses. People still insist on using it though...

baileygreyhorse
Feb. 26, 2006, 05:44 PM
Here's the pink! (http://community.webshots.com/photo/273243368/1456852935045486782VMJWjw) I got so tired of boring blue and green (http://community.webshots.com/photo/158202240/1158662546045486782CnUsTu).

Peeves? None really. Don't hate. Wear <span class="ev_code_PINK">PINK!</span>

Meredith Clark
Feb. 26, 2006, 05:59 PM
I will admit the pink was just a phase, i was transfering from a long "green and white" phase with my chestnut, to new colors for my new black horse. I think he'll eventually end up in Black and Silver though..the pink was just for fun!

One Star
Feb. 27, 2006, 06:35 AM
Originally posted by EmilyCraig:
I have always been curious to know why you see riders @ the top levels competing with black gloves, or no gloves in dressage...and then white gloves in stadium? Odd to me.

Generally speaking, you wear dark gloves in Dressage to minimize the chances of the judge's eyes going to your less-than-absolutely-still hands (unless of course you are Bruce or Pippa and your hands ARE perfect). I can't say I've ever seen anyone with no gloves in Dressage, though.

In Stadium, often times the gloves are the natural colored string gloves like foxhunters wear, as the goatskin palms are very grippy for a good grab on your reins.

jkbarablover
Feb. 27, 2006, 07:19 AM
Great post on sewing in braids. Thanks! However, do most eventers do the bigger sewn in braids than hunter braids? Just wondering..

Jazzy Lady
Feb. 27, 2006, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by jkbarablover:
Great post on sewing in braids. Thanks! However, do most eventers do the bigger sewn in braids than hunter braids? Just wondering..

Generally speaking yes. I think it looks good to have them a bit bigger. Braids (http://community.webshots.com/photo/357288567/1413490303048917466cIZoAW) Plus it takes less time which is a bonus. My boy has a very thin mane, I generally get 14 braids in his.

ssm
Feb. 27, 2006, 07:46 AM
As long as my horse and I are clean and tidy and performing to our best that day, I couldn't give a flip about how anyone else's choice of colors, braids or boots.

Part-Time Angel
Feb. 27, 2006, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by jkbarablover:
Great post on sewing in braids. Thanks! However, do most eventers do the bigger sewn in braids than hunter braids? Just wondering..

I'd say yes, but it doesn't matter at all. I'm a hunter braider at heart and I average at 30 braids and my mares mane is average thickness. I much prefer that look, and it lengthens a neck which is rarely a bad thing in my mind.

mjedge808
Feb. 27, 2006, 10:51 AM
BTW, less we forget, Phillip Dutton rides in a BLUE saddle XC. (which, by the way, i WANT! I LOVE IT!)

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif i am glad we are having such lively discussions. i guess the consensus is as long as we are safe and happy, go for it, right?

eventamy
Feb. 27, 2006, 11:52 AM
Oh wow! I haven't seen a blue saddle! Does anyone have pictures? I've seen him run Rolex a couple of times, but haven't noticed a blue saddle!

mosmom
Feb. 27, 2006, 01:08 PM
Oh wow! I haven't seen a blue saddle! Does anyone have pictures? I've seen him run Rolex a couple of times, but haven't noticed a blue saddle!


Look at the very top of http://www.useventing.com/index.php you can't see that it's Philip Dutton but you can see his saddle. I also heard Bruce Davidson uses a red w/ yellow saddle for xc.

WW_Queen
Feb. 27, 2006, 08:02 PM
I don't have any eventing pet peeves. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you show up with ill-fitting tack, tack check won't pass you.

If you show up with a dirty horse or tack, you won't place in dressage.

It doesn't matter how much tack you have, if your horse goes over the jumps clean you'll still beat out the horse who had nothing but knocked a rail.

Eventing isn't brain surgery, and it matters little what other riders are doing. It matters what you and your horse are doing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jazzy Lady
Feb. 27, 2006, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by WW_Queen:

If you show up with ill-fitting tack, tack check won't pass you.

Not necessarily. In the US all that gets checked is the bit before dressage, and in Canada I've never seen a tack check person see if a saddle fits a horse or rider. Most tack check people will make sure everything is there and a lot of them are volunteers who maybe don't know how bridles are supposed to be positioned for different types of bits that they will encounter and I have yet to see one ask someone to re-adjust an improperly adjusted noseband.



If you show up with a dirty horse or tack, you won't place in dressage.

I don't know about this one either. The judge is there to judge the way you perform, not how well you clean your horse and yourself. A damn good rider on a damn good dirty horse with dirty tack could easily win if they put in the test http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Kap
Feb. 27, 2006, 09:46 PM
Jazzy Lady, I've always wanted my braids to look more like yours. How wide did you make the sections for the braids in the picture that you posted at the bottom of page 9?

Sancudo
Feb. 27, 2006, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Eventer13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sancudo:
One girl I've seen even spray painted her horse's roached mane neon green! Ewww!




Haha! I've seen her before too! Was it TTC? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes! It was a couple of years ago now, but I think I saw her at the Ark a year ago. I'd hate to bash her in case she's on here, but she had a really cute buckskin paint, and all her colors were lime green.

Libish
Feb. 28, 2006, 07:14 AM
This is a long thread. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I think everyone pretty much agress that dressage & stadium should have a fairly conservative, clean, tidy, crisp turnout. It's appropriate and looks sharp, and the rules are even written to enforce that.

For XC, it's nice that there isn't one set dress code and people can express themselves a bit more. Now, with that said....

I'm conservative by nature and I want to respect my horse... so I will stick with simplicity in tack and color.

I say let the kiddos be kids and go nuts with their colors and glitz if they want. Now, if I see an adult going crazy with wild color comobs, then I fully admit I gawk a little... but I'm conservative by nature... they obviously are not. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I don't know what my braids will look like, but I have to learn by doing... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif That reminds me, I need to start practicing!

Muck r us
Feb. 28, 2006, 08:15 AM
I have yet to see one ask someone to re-adjust an improperly adjusted noseband.

Yeah, like I'm going to tell a Bobby Stevenson that his tack isn't adjusted correctly. Checking bits is intimidating enough. Pointing out ill fitting or poorly adjusted tack is way above my pay grade.

InVA
Feb. 28, 2006, 08:24 AM
Most eventers do Button braids... not hunter braids.. but its a matter of preference really

InVA
Feb. 28, 2006, 01:26 PM
OH!!! Because we're talking about braiding - here's a PEEVE of mine! It bugs the living daylights out of me to see horses walking around to the sj or XC with curly manes from having braids in them! UGH! Before you take the braids out. sqeeze a wet sponge on each of them real quick...so they're damp/wet - then take them out - TA DAAA!!! nice smooth, straight, UNcurly mane!! THERE, I said it!

AllyCat
Feb. 28, 2006, 02:56 PM
Personally, I cannot stand white britches. I wear them sometimes for XC because I am hoping to ruin them ...but the only time I ever fell wearing them was into a huge patch of grass...with not a single green splotch on the blasted Cloroxy things!

I like tan, beige, or cream for any of the phases, but white just makes NO sense at all around horses.

But to each their own. I agree with others here that this isn't a fashion contest although it's nice to see people put in the effort to clean themselves, their horse, and their tack in an effort to show they are serious about coming to a show.

But then good riding shows one is serious too...

But can't we have a rule about neon colors being illegal????

Jazzy Lady
Feb. 28, 2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Kapster: Aefvue Young'un:
Jazzy Lady, I've always wanted my braids to look more like yours. How wide did you make the sections for the braids in the picture that you posted at the bottom of page 9?

Been a while, but I believe the sections are 3/4 of a metal pulling comb wide. But my boy has VERY thin hair http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

One Star
Feb. 28, 2006, 04:04 PM
I also heard Bruce Davidson uses a red w/ yellow saddle for xc.

Yes, he rode in it at the Ocala Horse Trials two weekends ago. It's quite RED!!!

eventable
Feb. 28, 2006, 11:32 PM
ow. I've never seen this. I hope I never do because I've just decided that hate anyone whose leg is thin enough that an armband can fit around it. HATE, I tells ya!


OK, backing sloooooowly away from CarrieK now. I confess, I wear my armband around my leg. Mainly because it's more comfortable for me there. It fits right over my boot and has the added advantage that I can leave it round my boot if I remove it (saves having to hunt down armband to put over my coat when I do my stadium round).

My pet peeve - people who don't thank volunteers (or who are insufferably rude to said volunteers). They give up a lot of time, and most of them don't deserve to be the butt of your bad dressage score.

Other pet peeves - people who don't praise their horses after a good round, people with braids on wrong side, mad flying, uncontrolled hair on XC (sadly I've been guilty of this after losing hairnet mid-round). Oh, and people who park on top of you and then complain when your horse tries to kick in their windshield.

phoebetrainer
Mar. 1, 2006, 01:53 AM
"... people with braids on wrong side"

That's me!! Both my eventers have manes falling to the left. I've tried training them to the right, but the TB ends up with none at all because it gets rubbed out when I bend the hairs the wrong way and the ISH ends up with a mane that sticks straight up in the air - even more so than usual! - and its naturally curly. So then I have to got to XC and SJ with a mane that looks like a zebra that's has a fight with the power point!!

Libish
Mar. 1, 2006, 07:07 AM
OK, can't resist.....I've got one more...

complaining about braiding on the 'wrong side'.

In this day and age, why fuss about a 'right' and 'wrong' side. It's like comparing right handed and lefted handed as right and wrong. That's bunk, and in my opinion, so is the 'wrong side' of a mane. If it's tidy, pulled nicely and braided nicely, who gives a flying flip if it's on the left or right.

NowThatsATrot
Mar. 1, 2006, 03:04 PM
Poor sportsmanship/horsemanship is my biggest peeve, in any event, but that's not really turnout, huh?

For XC I hate people that make us lowly jump judges guess their number... I've had to radio in to make sure riders are running in the correct order, because someone "forgot" to pin on a number or because it was "strategically" placed somewhere impossible to see as they galloped past. (Though must say distinctive colors came in handy when I was double checking; "Was 214 the bay with the red and green gear?")

After reading the first few pages of this thread, I had to go make sure all my new gear for our debut this year isn't too "loud" -- since discovering most of my gear (car, trailer, tack trunk, brush box, etc) are all the same color, I decided to pick XC gear to match, but I like the shade of blue I picked. Think it looks snazzy with my guy's shade of bay. Vest, pad, galloping boots, and the backs of my gloves isn't overkill, is it? Especially since most of it has black or white stripes/piping. Think the black shirt sets it off nicely, even more so if I have a black helmet to wear.

Mane nazis must hate me, though, because I let my guy's hair grow past his neck (the way it did when he raced; he'd look wrong without it) and plait it in a running braid down his neck. His tail is left natural, though I do brush and Cowboy Magic the heck out of it.

Kementari
Mar. 1, 2006, 05:05 PM
It is against the rules to wear one's medical card on one's leg:


2. MEDICAL CARDS. An approved and completed medical card is required any time
while jumping. It must be enclosed in a transparent, waterproof carrier. It must be
securely attached to the competitor’s upper arm on the outside of the competitor’s
clothing. Failure to wear one’s own medical card shall be penalized by a fine of $100.
(Payable to the Organizing Committee)
[Emphasis mine]

So perhaps a good pet peeve would be show officials who don't know and enforce the rules, so that competitors don't know not to wear their cards on their legs! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

eventable
Mar. 2, 2006, 12:14 AM
It is against the rules to wear one's medical card on one's leg:

It may be against the rules in New Hampshire, but it isn't in New Zealand. Or if it is, I've never been called on it (and I'm not the only one who does it).

Jazzy Lady
Mar. 2, 2006, 07:03 AM
Same with in Canada, it's not in the rule book and MANY people do it. Drives me nuts.

mjedge808
Mar. 2, 2006, 10:48 AM
question: i haven't attended a high enough event that i felt the need to braid. (just doing BN and tadpole stuff with my horse). is the majority button braids, flat hunter braids or fat dressage braids? when i braid, since i rode hunters, i always do the buttons, and usually the braids are about the width of my pinky finger. is there a general consenus of the masses?

Kementari
Mar. 2, 2006, 10:56 AM
Teach me to look at where people are from... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

In my defense, however, http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif I have seen armbands on legs (and also on the back of a body protector...some lot of good THAT'S going to do when they land on their back!) here in the US.

Janet
Mar. 2, 2006, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by mjedge808:
question: i haven't attended a high enough event that i felt the need to braid. (just doing BN and tadpole stuff with my horse). is the majority button braids, flat hunter braids or fat dressage braids? when i braid, since i rode hunters, i always do the buttons, and usually the braids are about the width of my pinky finger. is there a general consenus of the masses? All of the above, and some other techniques as well.