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Fractious Fox
Jan. 18, 2011, 12:38 PM
I am currently using the world's most uncomfortable pair of plain, cheap, fillis irons. I'm not sure if this is the foot bed, or the pads, but they hurt like heck on my foot and I'm looking to replace them. I have the super comfort iron pads, but I hesitate to use them if this is a design flaw in the iron itself (ie: thin bars that frame the foot bed). I've only ever used fillis irons.

I'm not interested in jointed irons, as they make me feel wobbly in the lower leg. I'm really interested in a wide track foot bed, but can't seem to find any that are regular metal. Most are composite material...

My questions::confused::confused::confused:
What is the value of composite irons? Are they more dangerous possibly because of their lack of weight?

Do offset irons make a positive difference? Or, do they make it hard to keep your base of support (I have a weak left leg and tend to collapse onto the outside of my lower leg/foot, so need something to really press into with the weight traveling down the inside of my leg/foot).

Are there any regular metal irons that don't flex, but have the wider foot bed? I can't seem to find any, but maybe someone here has seen some...

I'm posting in this forum because I'd like the eventing perspective. I want to find something safe for the sport.

Thanks!!!

deltawave
Jan. 18, 2011, 12:53 PM
I have never found that any "specialty irons" made any real difference in how I feel or look. I do currently have ones where the "eye" for the stirrup leather is rotated 90 degrees from normal. I bought the first pair thinking it would help me keep my toe from sticking out in dressage when I ride with longer stirrups. I don't think they did do that, but I do like how they make it easier to "find" a lost stirrup, so I've kept them (and even bought a second pair).

I use Peacock irons for jumping.

I have on all my stirrups those strap-on, black grippy things, which I do like.

My trainer has those black plastic/composite stirrups on her dressage saddle and I don't like them. :no: They just don't feel right, although I can't put my finger on a specific reason.

My $0.02. Not very helpful, I guess. :uhoh: I think if you're having comfort problems you'll probably just have to keep trying until you find a pair that suits you. Have you tried wrapping the foot-bed in Latex or vetrap to see if that makes them more comfortable? If it does, then you'll just have to find some kind of pad that is suitable rather than a whole stirrup, maybe.

eponacowgirl
Jan. 18, 2011, 12:55 PM
I have a pair of wide base composite stirrups. The weight doesn't make a lick of difference to me but the base does, I can ride in XC length stirrups without thinking I'm about to die.

PuraVidaEventing
Jan. 18, 2011, 01:29 PM
I don't know much about stirrups, tbh lol. But I have the black Royal Riders (the simplest non jointed ones) and absolutely LOVE them. I used peacock irons until recently and while I can't tell you why, I don't like peacock irons and LOVE my RRs.

Fractious Fox
Jan. 18, 2011, 01:35 PM
Thanks guys for all of the input! I do suspect that to a large degree, less is more in the stirrup department. It's interesting too to see the different views on the composite irons.. I'd still like to know what the manufacturers tout as their benefits though. Delta, I think I'd like offset eye that you mentioned as to me, the ability to find your stirrup is the most that you could get out of the newer styles on the market. All the ones I've seen for sale though are a bit too spendy for me right now.

Looking forward to seeing other responses.

Perfect Pony
Jan. 18, 2011, 01:41 PM
I don't know much about stirrups, tbh lol. But I have the black Royal Riders (the simplest non jointed ones) and absolutely LOVE them.

Me too. I use the flex for my jumping saddle, and regular for dressage. I am so addicted to the RR "irons" that I put them on other people's saddles to ride. Shopping for horses was horrible when I had to ride in other people's saddles with regular irons.

I can't completely put my finger on why, but it seems the wide footbed with the light weight completely eliminates any discomfort in my knees and ankles, and I am able to ride with a much more secure and quiet lower leg.

Dawnd
Jan. 18, 2011, 01:46 PM
I had a similar problem with one ankle rolling (my right) too much putting way too much pressure on my ankle joint. Perhaps this is what you are describing as far as your need to move your weight to the inside of your foot?

What I did is to work on tightening the outside of my leg using exercises that a physical trainer gave me and put an angled stirrup pad in that stirrup (higher on the outside than the inside) and built up my ankle until I could take the angled stirrup pads out.

I happen to ride in weighted, offset dressage stirrups by Stuebben. And the flexible stirrups to jump in. Both are probably not needed but I had a shopping problem when I first bought my horse. :)

HER
Jan. 18, 2011, 02:20 PM
I jump in the basic RRs. At first I didn't notice much difference but I do now. They are not leaps and bounds better than my regular fillis but I do like them somewhat better. I got a great deal on eBay. Another thing I like is that they don't bang up my calfskin saddle as much when I run the irons up. I still use regular fillis for dressage and don't plan on changing.

pattnic
Jan. 18, 2011, 02:30 PM
I am currently using the world's most uncomfortable pair of plain, cheap, fillis irons. I'm not sure if this is the foot bed, or the pads, but they hurt like heck on my foot and I'm looking to replace them. I have the super comfort iron pads, but I hesitate to use them if this is a design flaw in the iron itself (ie: thin bars that frame the foot bed). I've only ever used fillis irons.

Are there any regular metal irons that don't flex, but have the wider foot bed? I can't seem to find any, but maybe someone here has seen some...

You might be interested in the Pro Jump EXTRA stirrup pads... makes a wider base on a regular Fillis iron.

http://www.equusnow.com/prodview.asp?idProduct=40

Grasshopper
Jan. 18, 2011, 04:16 PM
pattnic, I wish I'd seen those before I got my wide tread irons some months ago!

FF, I got the aluminum version of these:

http://www.vtosaddlery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=VTO&Product_Code=EWTSI&Category_Code=

I got them primarily for hunting, as my right foot tends to fall asleep after hours in the saddle, mostly in a half seat. So far I haven't been able to actually try them out hunting, but for normal riding they've been pretty good.

deltawave
Jan. 18, 2011, 04:40 PM
http://www.vrtack.com/offset-eye-stirrups-p-1088.html

$45 for the offset eye stirrups. These are, I'm pretty sure, the exact same ones I have. Some of them are absolutely ridiculously priced, crikey! I'm not spending $200 for ANY dang stirrup! :eek:

vineyridge
Jan. 18, 2011, 07:34 PM
I have the Stubben offset stirrups. They are wonderful for bad knees and ankles. They were also cheap. Unfortunately, I don't think they are still being sold. I have the double offset ones with a slight downhill bed, which helps with position and also keeps the balls of my feet from going numb. Best thing I ever bought for hunting.

Here's the problem with light stirrups. If you do happen to lose them, it's much easier to get back into a heavy stirrup that isn't flapping around. They will more likely hang straight, and are, IMO, safer.

sch1star
Jan. 18, 2011, 07:55 PM
Before I tried them, I had a friend who sang the praises of the RR composites. She didn't love them, she LOVED them. I thought she was nuts. I asked, since they're so light, don't you find it difficult to pick up a lost stirrup? and she said, here's the thing, it's almost impossible for me to lose my stirrup at all!

Try them try them, she said. You can borrow mine. Nope, I still think you're nuts....no thanks, I'm good!

Awhile later, I found a pair on deep discount in the bin at SmartPak, and I needed stirrups, so I figured what the heck. Well, you guessed it, to my shock and surprise...I liked them too.

They don't hurt the ball of my foot and they don't hurt my joints when I crank up the length. And when I find myself floating above the pony (not like that ever happens), unscheduled-like, the stirrups come with me. They really are hard to lose.

I think they came with a couple different pads and I use the cheese grater style - I'm sure that also helps. But they just don't feel "hard." Go figure....

I owed her a drink after that!

LookmaNohands
Jan. 18, 2011, 08:24 PM
I wondering about the light versus heavy stirrup debate. Are the lighter ones really hard to get back if you loose one? At my last event my very green mare jumped a little funny through a combination and I lost one stirrup. I couldn't get it back, jumped one jump without it still couldn't get it back and because she was jumping green (her first event) I finally pulled up and then got it back. It was bouncing around so much I just couldn't get it back. This happened to me about 15 years ago on cross-country it was really stupid!

So I always wondered if lighter stirrups would be better.

Opinions?

Fractious Fox
Jan. 18, 2011, 08:33 PM
Wow, you guys have come through as expected with personal feedback and (major plus!!!) even links to check out! There is a lot for me to process through here. It is funny that so many of you have mentioned numbness in your feet.. I thought I was the only one who had this! I have an old injury (broken toes) and though that was the reason, but I guess it's likely also the stirrup in general. Also, I've noticed an increase in pain in my knees and ankles over the years after a long time in the saddle or riding in short stirrups. I'm extra motivated after reading about all of the benefits of changing even small things in stirrup iron design in regards to these sorts of pain.. I admit to thinking it was all just marketing until now. I've never really had a discussion on irons with people before, ha! We riders can find the most mundane topics interesting ;)

Right now I'm most interested in the wider foot bed that you can add to regular irons (posted earlier), the offset ones Delta posted, and composites with wide tracks. I really wish I could try some composites..

Also, WHEN did irons get so expensive!! Sheesh!!!

retreadeventer
Jan. 18, 2011, 08:37 PM
I suffer from numbness in the stirrups, and I got the cheaper composite stirrup -- and they have made a huge difference. Not entirely the answer but a long, long way toward more comfortable. Mine were under $40 for the pair and well worth it. They have nothing special on the tread, are lightweight, and I have no trouble finding them, riding in them, even hunting several hours -- no problem. Well worth the relatively small investment!

deltawave
Jan. 18, 2011, 08:38 PM
Possiblly not an issue for everyone, but I have spoken to a couple of people who swore that new stirrups took care of numbness and ankle pain, but within a month or two the same symptoms returned. I've often wondered if just CHANGING irons from time to time is a good thing for people with these types of problems--keep the pressure points moving around, maybe?

yellowbritches
Jan. 18, 2011, 08:47 PM
I have the wide footbed composites (they are an RR knockoff, so you don't have to spend a fortune). I have to say, they make a difference to me. My toes used to go numb in regular fillis and jointed stirrups when galloping, and I don't have so much of an issue with that any longer. I do not find them hard to, well, find, but I also rarely lose them. There was a trend awhile back (about 8-10 years, maybe) for lightweight, composite stirrups that were fillis look alikes, but composite. THOSE were a bitch to find! I think the wide ones have a little more weight, so they don't flop away as easily.

Now, I don't like them for my dressage saddle, and I don't like jointed either. Good old fillis. The only change I've made is cheese grader stirrup pads, which I did when I had to wear my old boots for awhile this year when my good ones needed a repair (the old boots have NO tread left). I kept the cheese graders. I like them more than I ever thought I would.

retreadeventer
Jan. 18, 2011, 08:53 PM
Possiblly not an issue for everyone, but I have spoken to a couple of people who swore that new stirrups took care of numbness and ankle pain, but within a month or two the same symptoms returned. I've often wondered if just CHANGING irons from time to time is a good thing for people with these types of problems--keep the pressure points moving around, maybe?

That's a good observation. I wonder if Medical Mike has an idea about that?

kkindley
Jan. 18, 2011, 09:05 PM
I suffer from numbness in the stirrups, and I got the cheaper composite stirrup -- and they have made a huge difference. Not entirely the answer but a long, long way toward more comfortable. Mine were under $40 for the pair and well worth it. They have nothing special on the tread, are lightweight, and I have no trouble finding them, riding in them, even hunting several hours -- no problem. Well worth the relatively small investment!



this!! I used to like my heavy fillis irons until I bought these. I think I paid about $25 for mine. Numbness in my toes rarely happens now. I never lose them, and if I do, not hard at all to find. Other than that, I can't really describe why I like them. I've let a few people try them with mixed responses. Some really liked them, some eh. Good luck!

medical mike
Jan. 23, 2011, 10:22 PM
It is the position of the stirrup iron in relation to the foot, width of the horse,
the "quality" of your foot/ lower extremity itself,
then the strength and function of your lower extremity that matter.

Changing stirrup irons are "until proven otherwise" a bandage at best....

General fix......
Outside branch back to match the balls of all 5 toes
NO Heels Down ever- multiple threads on that debate available
Off horse eval to find same or opposite side compensation/weakness in your strength
Strengthening to address those compensation/weakness.

Regards,
Medical Mike
equestrian medical researcher
www.equicision.com

afox2332
Jan. 23, 2011, 11:34 PM
After reading these posts I'm going to buy the extra wide track stirrups TOMORROW! I found a couple less expensive stirrup irons with basically the same features on the Dover site:
Equi Wing Wide Track Stirrup and the Composite Reflex Stirrup Irons ($65 and $35, respectively). I'm probably going with the Equi Wing and definitely cheese graters.

I'm just going from hunters to eventing, and not young anymore, and the extra stirrup width sounds like it will provide me additional support and security, especially with shorter leather lengths.

THANK YOU, Fractious Fox, for posting this thread!!:D

eventingismylife
Jan. 24, 2011, 12:20 AM
I also get numbness in my foot when I crank my stirrups up, but haven't really found a differnt iron that helped. What I did find are these :http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/I/SCIP.htm. They are amazing! Help with knee and ankle pain, dont lose stirrups, and numbness is not a problem. These are seriously the best thing in the world. Period.

SonnysMom
Jan. 24, 2011, 09:40 AM
Just a PSA on those flexible stirrups. I was warming up for a jumping clinic and had just finished cantering when my flexible stirrup broke. My horse loves to splash in the water and gets my legs pretty wet. The flexible part inside the rubber rusted and let go. I was lucky it let go when it did and not while I was jumping.
The worst part was as I was tacking up that morning I notice the branch of the stirrup above the rubber had some rust. But it was just surface rust. I was annoyed that they were less than a year old and already showing some rust. It never occurred to me that there could be rust under the rubber cover.
I did love those flexible stirrups. They really helped my knees on long trail rides. They were also less flexible than other ones I have seen so I didn't lose my leg stability or overflex my ankle.

horsecents
Jan. 25, 2011, 06:59 PM
I recently purchased the Composite Reflex Stirrups ($35) and really like them. The one thing I noticed is it really brought to light the fact that I sometimes draw my legs up, now I'm very concious of it and am working at developing a better base of support. Also when I work without stirrups, my horse doesn't mind them when they bump his sides. Another plus is they make the saddle lighter, especially when your tacking up a 17 hand horse. :D

Fractious Fox
Jan. 25, 2011, 07:20 PM
Oh! I'm excited to see my mundane topic was actually a successful one! I'm amazed at the extra responses I've received - Thanks guys! I'm sorry that I didn't respond for a while, I had to go out of town for a funeral.

Anyway, I just ordered a pair of inexpensive composite wide track irons from VTO. They were $35 and had good reviews on various sites (including this thread!). It was between these or the Equiwing's at Dover.. I decided to go with the less expensive ones to a) see if the wide foot bed even makes a difference and b) because I was already ordering from VTO anyway.

This past weekend I went to a local tack shop and picked up a pair of Royal Rider?? carbon wide track irons. They were NICE. I didn't even ask the price, but my instructor and I both lamented our pricey tastes. What I liked about it though can be found in less fancy knock offs. Then, today I had a lesson and had the same old numbness in my foot. In my case, I think the numbness has to do with a set of previously broken toes (they were broken more than once). It's only those toes on that foot that have problems. I'm really hoping that this will help!!! I came home and decided that today was the day! Onward to new irons! I'll report how they perform on this thread.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. Now, people who are wondering about irons have a place to go!

AllWeatherGal
Dec. 5, 2012, 08:02 PM
Reviving the thread (I started one in the dressage area but am doing more research).

I've been using what I think are plain stirrups with these: http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/I/SCIP.htm

and have had no foot or knee pain for the month.

I just switched back to my HS Bows and in two rides my knees are puffy and sore.

I thought heavy stirrups were safer to "get back" but it doesn't sound like many people on this thread are losing their composites ... and I am attracted to that black color.

New ideas?

rthonor
Dec. 6, 2012, 02:15 AM
I have the wide Composite stirrups and I love them. It may be because they are wide, but I really like them. My foot doesn't go numb in them.

candysgirl
Dec. 6, 2012, 09:31 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002HPNBMU I have a pair of these that I foxhunt with. I've never had an issue losing my stirrup and not being able to get it back. They're actually pretty hard to lose in the first place. My feet rarely come out of them. I can hunt for hours without my knees hurting. I'd recommend them to anyone. They feel very stable. The footbed tips just a little to compensate for the wide track, but it doesn't bounce around on you like the jointed stirrups can. It only tips one way also.

GutsNGlory
Dec. 6, 2012, 09:52 AM
I suffer from numbness in the stirrups, and I got the cheaper composite stirrup -- and they have made a huge difference. Not entirely the answer but a long, long way toward more comfortable. Mine were under $40 for the pair and well worth it. They have nothing special on the tread, are lightweight, and I have no trouble finding them, riding in them, even hunting several hours -- no problem. Well worth the relatively small investment!

Ditto on the cheap composite stirrups. Retread - are yours wide track or regular?

My mom bought a pair of the cheapo wide track composite stirrups ($25-30) for me a little over a year ago to try - I originally didn't want them because I'm one of those people who instantly hates anything that seems to be just a fashion trend... ;) She talked me into at least trying them out, though, and I LOVE them. :yes:
I have had tendonitis (achilles) for years and have always struggled with pain when riding. I have tried jointed stirrups, peacock stirrups, regular heavy fillis irons... NOTHING worked. Until these. I haven't had tendon pain when riding since I put these on my jump saddle. And I agree with the other posters - I actually loose my stirrups less frequently with these. And when I have lost a stirrup, I've found it is no harder for me to find and pick it up than a normal heavy fillis iron. Bonus - I find that the ones I have also offer a better grip/more tread when wet. But that's JMHO. :D

GutsNGlory
Dec. 6, 2012, 09:53 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002HPNBMU I have a pair of these that I foxhunt with. I've never had an issue losing my stirrup and not being able to get it back. They're actually pretty hard to lose in the first place. My feet rarely come out of them. I can hunt for hours without my knees hurting. I'd recommend them to anyone. They feel very stable. The footbed tips just a little to compensate for the wide track, but it doesn't bounce around on you like the jointed stirrups can. It only tips one way also.

Yep! Those are the ones I have I think!

Simbalism
Dec. 6, 2012, 10:13 AM
I hurt my achilles tendon about a year and 1/2 ago. I went to the compostite wide based stirrups in an effort to alleviate the pain from flexing my foot/ankle. I love them. I also find that they hold your foot in postion due to the tread in the footbed. At first the "lightness" of them felt weird, but I got used to it quickly.

McVillesMom
Dec. 6, 2012, 11:05 AM
This is kind of an embarrassing question to ask...but do the composite irons have a weight limit? I'm not THAT heavy...(currently 175, but working on losing) but I ask because years ago I managed to bend a Kwik-Out iron, which I didn't even realize was possible, and I probably weighed about 40 pounds less then than I do now....

Appsolute
Dec. 6, 2012, 11:12 AM
I used to get a numb baby toe from my fillis irons. Like you, I do not like “flex” irons, and I like the weight of metal (easier to retrieve a lost iron).

I ended up getting the Equiwing wide track aluminum stirrups (http://www.horseloverz.com/Irons/280856-Equiwing-Aluminum-Stirrup---Aluminum---475.html).


I LOVE THEM. No more numb foot, they look traditional, are a bit lighter than fillis irons, without being as light as composite. They come with two different foot pads, black rubber, and cheese grater – I use rubber in the summer, grater in the winter.

Love love love them.

VCT
Dec. 6, 2012, 11:21 AM
I use the wide track composite irons, no flex or anything, with cheese grater pads. My feet and knees hurt due to RA, and these are WAY more comfortable.

Also I never lose a stirrup. I think they could possibly be more difficult to find if you lost one, but thats from my perspective of being rather stiff and unable to bend my ankle/leg/foot around to get it back. Happily, this has never been a problem as I just don't seem to lose them ever. If I did I would just halt, fix it and continue and I personally would need to do that with a regular stirrup anyways, or continue on without the stirrup. The bonus for me is that if I choose to continue on these ones are so light weight that they do not disturb my horses if they bounce on their side.

They also don't fall down when lunging.

My feet don't hurt as much with them and the joints of all my toes have lots of inflammation - I can't walk normally most of the time.

I feel very stable in them, much more so than in jointed/flexible stirrups, or in regular stirrups which cause me so much foot and knee pain that I just cannot use them.

gooselover
Dec. 10, 2012, 10:53 PM
I just bought a pair of the composite wide track stirrups but haven't tried them yet. Question, what are these cheese grater pads some of you are talking about?

Duhh....I think I answered my own question....that is the pad they come with correct???????????

GoForAGallop
Dec. 10, 2012, 11:42 PM
Thanks guys for all of the input! I do suspect that to a large degree, less is more in the stirrup department. It's interesting too to see the different views on the composite irons.. I'd still like to know what the manufacturers tout as their benefits though. Delta, I think I'd like offset eye that you mentioned as to me, the ability to find your stirrup is the most that you could get out of the newer styles on the market. All the ones I've seen for sale though are a bit too spendy for me right now.

Looking forward to seeing other responses.

If you want to try some cheap composite/other unique stirrups, check out Horze:
http://www.horze.com/Stirrups/stirrups,en_US,sc.html

With the 50% off code MERRYCHRISTMAS, there are plastic stirrups on there for $10. Might be worth trying them out to see if you like them, if there aren't any you can steal off other saddles at the barn! :)

Simbalism
Dec. 11, 2012, 03:38 AM
McVillesMom, I am significantly heavier than you and have not had any problems with the composites.

purplnurpl
Dec. 11, 2012, 08:40 PM
ok folks.
I'll be another guinea pig.
My feet go numb, the balls of my feet hurt, the arches of my feet hurt, and my knees hurt. And I have turf toe on my left foot that hurts so bad that sometimes I can't walk.
I also suffer from extreme dorsiflexion and also my toes over flex.
So basically....my toes will point straight to the sky--this in turn pulls on my patellar ligament and hurts my knees even more.

I've been trying to make myself more comfortable for the past few months.
I bought the stirrup pads (those black wrap arounds) they rock but they don't help me with pain at all.

Today I went and bought better boots. No more Ariats. Even the best of the best Ariats have a crappy foot bed when it comes to my extreme neediness. lol.
So I've bought good Justin work boot types--that allow far less felxion of the foot bed in general.

I'm buying the Equiwings from VTO (I just can't go all black so I have to buy the more expensive Equiwings to get a tradition color. boooo)

I will report back.

paulaedwina
Dec. 11, 2012, 08:56 PM
Let's hear it for those wide track, composites! Best $35 I've spent in a long time!

Paula

bornfreenowexpensive
Dec. 11, 2012, 09:49 PM
I have some Royal Riders that my horse won. I liked them so well, I bought another pair for my saddle.

I like how much lighter my saddle felt with them and I liked how more secure I felt with the wider tread.

The biggest negative I think is that with the wider tread, you are a bit more prone to have more foot in the stirrup which takes away some of the flexibility in your ankle...so you have to be more aware about keeping them more on your toe.

Toadie's mom
Dec. 11, 2012, 10:26 PM
I have 3 pairs of composite stirrups. Obviously I'm fond of them. 1st pair I bought were expensive -Prestige brand. Contrary to what some people are saying on this thread the Prestige rep said that these stirrups are easier to get back, should you lose one. The heavier the stirrup, the more it swings. I probably test this theory more than I should :( but I've found that to be true. Maybe we should ask our resident rocket scientist.

I don't have any pain problems (at least not in my feet and legs), so I don't have an opinion about that.

plainbay22
Dec. 12, 2012, 10:10 PM
I rode in a pair of the $35 Composite ones last week and boy are they nice! I really liked how my foot felt in the stirrup and I liked that they had a bit of flex. I'm not a fan of the black plastic look though. Do the Equi wings have any flex to them? Any suggestions for a "shiny" pair?

big_red_ottb
Dec. 12, 2012, 11:22 PM
I rode in a pair of the $35 Composite ones last week and boy are they nice! I really liked how my foot felt in the stirrup and I liked that they had a bit of flex. I'm not a fan of the black plastic look though. Do the Equi wings have any flex to them? Any suggestions for a "shiny" pair?

I second this question..residing in hunterland, I'm not sure how well the black stirrup look would go over. :lol: Are there any stirrups similar to what's being discussed here that have a more traditional look?

Electrikk
Dec. 17, 2012, 01:00 AM
I second this question..residing in hunterland, I'm not sure how well the black stirrup look would go over. :lol: Are there any stirrups similar to what's being discussed here that have a more traditional look?

I think much like GPAs, wrap collars, and softshell jackets, black stirrups will become acceptable in the hunter ring. It's the kind of thing where not everyone has them, but they're becoming more common as the eq ring fashion is influenced by the jumper ring, and then the hunters influenced by eq, and so they're not a total oddity.

big_red_ottb
Dec. 17, 2012, 01:35 AM
I think much like GPAs, wrap collars, and softshell jackets, black stirrups will become acceptable in the hunter ring. It's the kind of thing where not everyone has them, but they're becoming more common as the eq ring fashion is influenced by the jumper ring, and then the hunters influenced by eq, and so they're not a total oddity.

True, true! In that case...I think I'll order some! :yes:

purplnurpl
Dec. 17, 2012, 10:49 AM
My stirrups arrived and I schooled XC in them yesterday. So they had a good long ride to tell their tale.

LOVE THEM!
Do I love the way they look? nope. I did get the aluminum so at least they *look* kinda normal from far away.
They are about the same weight as my small Stubben schooling irons.

Between my new boots (with much more substantial foot bed) and the wide track stirrups I have ZERO foot pain for the first time in 3 years.
When I dismounted yesterday my knees were still stiff and I moved funny for a bit but I didn't frown in pain like I usually do.
The feet were A-O-K.
: )

thumbs up for wide tracks from me.

Shannon.Ryan18
Dec. 17, 2012, 10:46 PM
This thread has been a real eye opener! I've always had toe numbness issues for as long as I can remember in all sorts of stirrups (jointed flexy ones, normal ones, ones where just the foot bed moved, etc). About 4 and a half years ago I tore my left ACL (skiing) and then a year and half after that tore my right ACL (ultimate frisbee in college). I've had both replaced (not at the same time of course :p) and ever since have always had knee pain while riding. Not enough to cause me to stop or hobble off in pain after dismount, but annoying enough that I constantly feel the need to take my feet out of the stirrups and stretch my legs.

I purchased a new saddle in the last year or so and thought my old saddle would be great to keep for trails and things so as not to ruin my good show saddle. Never got around to buying stirrups for it though...now is as good a time as any! I ordered the composite reflex wide tracks from Horseloverz (because coupons!) so we will see if they make a difference...if not at least I'll be encouraged to ride in my old saddle again :lol: