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purplnurpl
Dec. 13, 2010, 10:37 AM
I have an option to buy a discounted KK Dynamic.

I need a D ring. My horse goes is a loose ring KK ultra for XC and Dressage.

Hunters like a D look though. ;)

I currently have a KK contoured D that he's OK in--but I think he's softer in the ultra. He likes a wiggly bit.

Found 2 dynamics that I can get for less then the usual $150.00.

for photo reference:

Contoured mouth (mine is a D--my friend lent it to me to try)
http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-0172&ids=628523509

Dynamic
http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-0165&tid=froogle&CATALOG_CODE=1X814&EID=X1814001&zmam=1460880&zmas=1&zmac=49&zmap=X1-0165

what's up with this?
Is this a rotator on the bean?
http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-0158&ids=301378234

I found a dynamic with the rotator? and a plain dynamic.

Are they better then just the regular Ultra?

thanks to all bit experts!

Xfactor
Dec. 13, 2010, 02:56 PM
No expert here.

But I'll give you my experience.

WH is not dressage legal, so scratch that one if you show.

The RS Dynamic D ring...LOOOOOVE it.

I had tried many many MANY bits, including a reg KK ultra.

My new trainer let me try her RS.....it was as if my horse said "FINALLY!!!.....a bit that feels good"

I probably would never have believed a bit could make a horse so much happier, but oh BOY did it ever.

Non expert opinion...but my horse says "YEAH!!!"

purplnurpl
Dec. 13, 2010, 03:06 PM
I don't understand the point of creating all these bits (some almost not that much different like the two above) that aren't even legal.

oldenmare
Dec. 13, 2010, 06:35 PM
The legality of the bit is usually dependent upon discipline.

And not everyone shows - and some bits are used for training then swapped out for showing. I had a trainer that used to do that all the time b/c she felt her horse did so much better in the Dynamic w/ roller but it wasn't legal - so for showing she'd switch to regular KK Ultra.

WishIWereRiding
Dec. 13, 2010, 06:52 PM
I would recommend you try the bits through the Bit of Britain bit rental program. I tried the WH (with the roller) and my horse did not like it. I think the roller bothered him and he did not like that much movement. Back it went!

NorCalDressage
Dec. 13, 2010, 10:42 PM
Ditto re: Bit of Britain

FEI1Day
Dec. 13, 2010, 10:45 PM
Dressage Extensions and Mary's Tack are also participating in the bit rental program.
Personally, I love my Dynamic bradoon so will be trying the same in a loose ring snaffle for my youngster.

canyonoak
Dec. 14, 2010, 09:05 AM
The bits with a bean in the middle have a different feel on the horse's lips (at least for most horses) as well as acting differently in the mouth when used (the original reason they were created ).

I have one horse who was always focusing on his bit to the point he would not really focus/learn anything else. After the usual trial and error, I got him a Dynamic and now he is happier than he ever was and is finally moving on past his mouth. LOL
The bean in the Dynamic lies in different angle than the KKs and I guess for Mr. Prince-and-the-Pea, it made enough difference!

purplnurpl
Dec. 14, 2010, 09:38 AM
I'll call one of those lists right away! Thanks guys!

I just emailed Mary's Tack. No one answered...

but I found three to try. SCORE!

http://www.marystack.com/aaaaaaaaig.html
http://www.marystack.com/aaaaaaadym.html
http://www.marystack.com/aaaaaaaaqb.html

Hampton Bay
Dec. 14, 2010, 08:56 PM
Has anyone tried the Dynamic compared to the JP oval mouth loose ring?

Fantastic
Dec. 14, 2010, 09:26 PM
Coincidently, I just happen to purchase the HS Ultra Dynamic RS D-ring today, and then I saw this thread! I went with a D-ring because is offers better stability and a bit of poll pressure in comparison to the loose ring (according to the tack shop owner). Additionally, the D-ring allows for a bit of a lateral cheek piece; kind of a smaller version of a full cheek. The tack shop owner told told me that this mouth piece does not allow a horse to cup the bean in it's tongue, which she said is what horses that lean tend to do. She said it encourages the horse to carry and seek the bit.

She said she has had MANY happy people report back to her on the HS Ultra Dynamic RS D-ring. Hopefully that will include me! :lol:

I am going to try this bit this evening on several horses and will report back!

Cowgirl
Dec. 15, 2010, 03:36 PM
My mare prefers the dynamic bradoon to the ultra. It just gives a little more tongue room or more overall uniform pressure due to the curve of the branches.

She also has the snaffle with the metal roller in the middle--the WH ultra. It is only legal for FEI young horse competitions, not USEF competitions.

Janet
Dec. 15, 2010, 04:22 PM
WH is not dressage legal, so scratch that one if you show.
Just to clarify, the WH IS legal for Eventing Dressage, but not for Straight Dressage (except FEI).

pattnic
Dec. 16, 2010, 02:32 PM
Has anyone tried the Dynamic compared to the JP oval mouth loose ring?

Interested to hear replies on this, as that is exactly the reason I am interested in the loose-ring Dynamic... the JP oval mouth loose ring is of too large a diameter mouthpiece, but I (and my horses) really like the dee ring, so I want a similar mouthpiece in a loose ring. The Dynamic is the only thing I've seen that comes close and is the correct diameter.