How do you handle the "I'd like to go riding sometime" comments????

[Nickelodian]

I was reading the "family activity" riding thread, and it reminded me of something I deal with on a weekly basis...the dreaded "ooh I'd like to go riding sometime" comment.

You know what I'm talking about. A co-worker or a friend of a friend finds out you ride horses. They then proceed to tell you about getting bucked off into a fence, run under a tree, kicked in the head, or some other story that they just have to share with you. After that they say "oh but I still love horses and would love to go riding sometime."

Now mind you I understand they'd like to go riding sometime, on a trail, or at a dude ranch. But they just don't understand that they can't come out and climb on top of any old horse at the barn. The worst ones to me are the ones I see weekly, and always have the same comment. I sort of smile, look away and mumble something like "hmm maybe sometime later when the weathers better."

Has anyone come up with a better way?

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[Nickelodian]

I was reading the "family activity" riding thread, and it reminded me of something I deal with on a weekly basis...the dreaded "ooh I'd like to go riding sometime" comment.

You know what I'm talking about. A co-worker or a friend of a friend finds out you ride horses. They then proceed to tell you about getting bucked off into a fence, run under a tree, kicked in the head, or some other story that they just have to share with you. After that they say "oh but I still love horses and would love to go riding sometime."

Now mind you I understand they'd like to go riding sometime, on a trail, or at a dude ranch. But they just don't understand that they can't come out and climb on top of any old horse at the barn. The worst ones to me are the ones I see weekly, and always have the same comment. I sort of smile, look away and mumble something like "hmm maybe sometime later when the weathers better."

Has anyone come up with a better way?

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[Perfect Pony]

How about "My horse is a 2 year old TB that might kill you?"
Works for me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[Tin]

usually I say "we'll we should get together and go to ~*insert local trail ride place here*~ !" if they push and ask why not on my horses I say that are show horses and are in strict training schedules. Works all the time!

~ they tease you cause they like you ~

[War Admiral]

"He's an ex-race horse. He can be a little tricky."

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Thoroughbreds! Everything else is just a horse. :-)

[Ride'emCO]

"Such-and-such a barn has a good lesson program, I can get you their number"

When they say they don't really want lessons, they just want to get on and have fun,

"Oh, wow, that's really dangerous. I would never want to take a risk like that with a 1200 pound animal and end up a parapalegic."

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[Applesauce]

I agree. I always say my horses are show horses and that they are not suitable for beginners and need experienced riders. I always then follow that up with a recommendation of a nice place that offers trail riding or leases horses by the hour.

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[Lord Helpus]

I say "Its too bad that my horses are not suitable, but XXX has some good school horses that you can rent by the hour."

Saying "Let's wait until spring" only encourages such people to keep on asking.

[AllWeatherGal]

Kali, great pictures of Danny ... he's CUTE!
(And I think you're not the Kali I thought you were *blush*!)


Nick ... I do what Kali does ... "I'm afraid I don't have a horse that's very safe or reliable for you, but there are some okay places you can rent a horse on the coast."

The thing that troubles me is that I'm also not very enthusiastic about the "rental" places, either. But I don't want to be responsible for anyone getting hurt on my horse.

In fact, nobody else even rides her ... I've had one instructor/clinician pop on for a few minutes, otherwise, she's all mine.

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[Coreene]

Ugh, this just happened to me recently. My mom said "You brother asked if I thought you would ever let his wife ride Oliver. I told him that it would never happen, that you only let experienced people ride him since he doesn't know anything." I am glad he approached her instead, I am sure that coming from me he would not have believed it.

Friends did ride Willem; one was a beginner but she cooled him out at the end of a lesson (she wanted to ride a giant horse). But it was when I said "Do you want to ride him?"

[relocatedTXjumpr]

There are TWO people in my office, who I see EVERY DAY.

When I started here one asked me if I had children...I said my horses are my children. She immediatly said she rode at a barn up the road. She then told me where she lived, ok, so she drove 45 minutes to the barn for lessons, no big deal....she then said she didnt like or want to ride competativly, she just wanted a horse to go ride in fields on. Ok, didnt make sense...this place is a NICE show barn. She then said she didnt really ride there but her parents lived close to it. So now that she knows I have two horses, and a "field" she is always asking if she can come ride...thank god I can use the excuse that Rudy is not trail ready and Taylor is only 2.

The other said she used to ride "all the time". She said she stopped for some reason. So now I hear "when can I come and ride? I would LOVE to get back into it!" Uggggggg. They sit across from each other...like she didnt just here me tell the other girl NO!

Just because Ihave horses doesnt mean every Tom, Dick and Harry can come to my home and ride...you werent invited, I never said you could EVER come out...and this is not a dude ranch..i dont have sane horses in big western saddles.


UHG...yes, it bothers me.

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[Kels]

Generally, when people find out she's a thorougbred, they back off. If they don't, I tell them she's an ex-racer.

If they STILL don't get it, I tell them that she is a show horse, and is therefore under strict training, but that my trainer offers lessons for anyone who wants to learn or just go out and have fun- while still being safe. That usually works!

-Kelsey-
It is so easy, in the presence of horses, to appear foolish or incompetent.

[vxf111]

I hate this dilemma. I usually do...

Well meaning friend: I'd love to go riding some time

Me: Me too, let's see if we can find a nice trail riding place in North Georgia

The exception is the 1-2 people I have found who are horsey. Even though they have western backgrounds, I feel okay will letting them hack out with me once in a while. Only becaause they actually CAN ride.

~Veronica

P.S.- Going for a real trail ride can be REALLY fun, even with non-horsey people.

"The Son Dee Times"
"Sustained"

[relocatedTXjumpr]

vxf111...is there such a place up here? I know there is one in Blue Ridge. I would love to be able to give them a place closer to here to go ride!

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[Kels]

Oh, and SILto-be thinks that every time I talk about Grace it's an invitation (even though she is scared of horses) come learn how to ride on her.

As does my aunt. She always says that if I ever need someone to ride her- call her! Unfortunately, I can't even ride Grace completely right now without risking getting hurt. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

-Kelsey-
It is so easy, in the presence of horses, to appear foolish or incompetent.

[Merry]

Ugh. With me, the requests to "come out and go riding" are usually followed up by some claim to horsemanship greatness like, "I rode a horse on the beach on Maui and it was a blast!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Then, oddly, when they can't get our resident lawn ornament of a horse to go around the arena, in a CIRCLE, at a WALK they rarely return.

If I secretly scorn the person, and don't want them to come out to ride, I just say, "All of our horses are competition animals. They're just too technical to ride." That sort of mumbo jumbo usually turns them off.

[Pixie Dust]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by War Admiral:
"He's an ex-race horse. He can be a little tricky."
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OH, I tried that one.....he just replied "I like them spirited!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

The truth is rarely pure, and never simple. Oscar Wilde

[FeistyMare]

"Oh sure, maybe sometime."

And then avoid the topic any time it is brought up.

Proud member of the Teen Clique

[LisaB]

I show them pics of Kirin doing the hi ho Silver impression in the pasture and then another pic of us going over a stone wall. That stops them.

[Kandace]

I find that this terse statement works well.

"Yes, I'd love to go riding sometime, too, but after working, cleaning stalls, doctoring sick animals, managing the farm and being a wife and a mom I have no time. Are you offering to come clean a couple stalls so we could ride together? When are you coming out and how long does it take you to clean a stall?"

I have no patience for people who say they love to ride but they don't like the work that's involved. And I've found that people have no concept of their riding (in)ability. Tell them that your horse is high-strung, likes to buck or is flat-out psychotic, and they usually respond, "Cool! Does he run really fast? 'cause I don't like that walking stuff. I wanna just take off and run!"

Kandace

The greatest use of life is to spend it for something that will outlive it -- William James

[artienallie]

Normally, I just have to remind them that Artie is the one that threw me, I broke two ribs, and then as he tried to jump over me in his panic, he stepped on my leg, causing it to swell to almost double it's normal size. And that he's the easier of my two horses to ride.

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[PaintBy#s]

Umm I have the perfect one- They are "one people horses...they will have a field day with you" and I follow up with " I have living proof"...

2 of my horses ( MY horses) Ran off with my bf,jumped a fence then tried to run him into the fence.

he is arrogant so he had it coming, but they really don't do well with people "other than Mommy" riding them.

[Paddys Mom]

A related story...

In high school, one of my teachers always told me about her Morgans and I would tell her about my QH. We finally agreed to get together and see each other's horses. Fortunately, I went to her barn first. I found out that that she made her gelding wear a bicycle chain bit all day every day to "make his mouth more sensitive". I got on her mare and this horse was so heavily leaning on my arms that my arms literally ached within minutes.

Needless to say, I always found excuses why I couldn't reciprocate. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

[Jasmine]

I usually let people I know ride my little mare. She's not much of a show horse, and is D E A D quiet. I also make them at least help with tacking/untacking and grooming. Unless they're 5 years old. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Then I make the parents help!

What really frosts my cookies is when they come out to ride the little one, then decide they want to ride my WB mare. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif That wasn't an option. She's pregnant, and NOT an easy ride anyway.

I actually had my cousin's wife leave in a huff because I wouldn't put her 8 year old on the big mare. She saw no reason why her precious (AKA spoiled rotten) little boy couldn't ride the horse of his choice. The fact that she would have most likely killed the kid didn't register. I said it's the little one or nothing. They chose nothing.

Predjudice is a poor substitute for thought.

[Nickelodian]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Merry:
"I rode a horse on the beach on Maui and it was a blast!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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hahahahahaha, or....

"The guy at the dude ranch told me that I am by far the best rider he's had there, and gave me the tough horses to ride!"

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[rhymeswithfizz]

"Oh, I wish I could, but my insurance doesn't allow me to let other people ride my horses." http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

where are we going, and why am I in this hand basket?

[Ride'emCO]

In replying to those who ask incessantly and never get the picture, why do we have to be so nice and keep trying to avoid actually confronting the problem?

No!

Just No!

Because I am selfinsh, because my horse is my sweet baby and I don't want anyone even looking at him sideways, because I said so! That's all!

I don't invite myself over to other people's houses for dinner, I don't ask to borrow their dogs, bikes, or any other personal belongings - these are office acquaintances, mostly! Some people are so rude! OK, off my soapbox now...

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I had one guy say..."If I can ride a motorcyle I can ride ANY horse"

Ok...give that bike an attitude problem, a mind of its own, and a real fear of " bush monsters" and then we'll talk.

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[Perfect Pony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AllWeatherGal:
Kali, great pictures of Danny ... he's CUTE!
(And I think you're not the Kali I thought you were *blush*!)
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Thanks for the compliment on Danny, he's such a baby still.

Did you think you knew me? Is there another Kali around this area?

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[horsegirl33]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by relocatedTXjumpr:
I had one guy say..."If I can ride a motorcyle I can ride ANY horse"

Ok...give that bike an attitude problem, a mind of its own, and a real fear of " bush monsters" and then we'll talk.

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yup...i've heard that one!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Don't have a horse...so no one asks me.. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif but i always get the stories about their psycho trail rides that they've been on in the woods or on the beach. IT'S NOT THE SAME PEOPLE!!

***God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses***

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[IndysMom]

My answer is always "I don't allow other people to ride my horse". That usually solves the problem.
Oh, BTY, children under 5 are allowed "pony" rides at the end of the lead rope.

[Liretta]

Well, first of all I tell them I own an Arabian. If that doesn't work http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif then I tell them that she will only allow Hannah and I to ride her, anyone else she will take for a not too pleasant ride at race horse speed, turn a 180 and drop them in a ditch. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif If they persist, I tell them flat out "No." When I explain that she is a rescue and doesn't trust many people and will most likely try to kill them if they mount her, then I usually get a "really?"
Duh, she is the Princess Gardenia and only has to tolerate the humans that she chooses, no one else.

[Libish]

I find that people generally mean well but are ignorant about the horse world.

I always shift it toward finding a suitable place for a trail ride or mention the barn offers lessons for kids 7 years and up on wonderful lesson horses. Lessons mind you, not fun one-time rides.

These tend to be the same people who, upon learning you've just purchased a pick-up truck, ask - "Hey, I need a truck for some errands, can I borrow it?"

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[Teach]

For the really, really persistant who just can't see the hints & won't take no for an answer, my (3 years old colt) & my sister's (very large & challenging dressage horse) standard response has become "Sure, can I sleep with your husband?" http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

***"With gas prices the way they are today, we can't afford NOT to buy a pony!"***

[Sandy M]

Well, I don't like to use the "too hot" or "too crazy" excuse - wouldn't reflect well on the training I've given my horse, would it?

I usually say, "Well, my horse is pretty quiet, but he is sensitive. Riding is a sport where you have to reach a certain level of competence for it to be enjoyable." Then I try to ascertain just exactly how much they HAVE ridden. One gal told me she had ridden a lot when a kid, but not much recently and brought me a picture of herself on a cross-country course. Okay! I brought her out and we went on a trail ride and while she was obviously rusty, her hands were soft and she and my sensitive but calm horse got along great. Anyone with lesser experience, I refer to a trail ride company near my barn and offer to ride with them - point out that they will have to go on a guided group ride because of INSURANCE issues. INSURANCE is always a good excuse to put off the bikers/galloped on the beach at Maui/love to go fast idiots! "I just can't risk it - my liability insurance doesn't cover my horse."

[Madison]

I always just say "Oh, my horse is in training so I don't let others ride her yet, and the other horses at my barn are all "owner-occupied" and can't be loaned out." Seems that the idea of riding a horse that is still being "trained" is not so appealing to them http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

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[Giddy-up]

Sranger Person: "Oh, can I ride your horse?? I just love horses!!"

Me: "Sure, right after you pay me for him & he's all yours."

OR

Me: "Sure, can I go drive your brand new (fill in blank car)?? By the way I just got my 3rd ticket for an accident & 2nd DUI & my insurance dropped me. But that's cool right??"

My friends have never asked me that I guess cause whenever they happen to stop by the barn, he's usually doing his best to act like a donkey behind that day! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I hate when people ask me that though. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif They expect for me to pay all the upkeep & bills so they can come "try out" horses & see if they like it. I usually try to steer them towards a lesson barn or something. No offense, but do you see me over at their house asking to "try out" something of their's?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"...but now the gloves are coming off and it's going to get ghetto." Robby Johnson

[Jaegermonster]

I have used the "My insurance doesn't allow it" one, which really is true, most insurance policies need a special rider for that sort of thing. If that doesn't work I tell them that my horses are not for beginniners.
I really liked the "Sure can I sleep with your husband" response.
I also carry a Waiver of Liability Release and a form that needs to be notarized authorizing medical treatment and with a space for their insurance information and next of kin information in my purse or truck. I reiterate that my horses are not easy to ride and if they insist I give them the forms and tell them to let me know when they want to come out and bring the completed forms. That usually is the end of the discussion. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
But yes I do have a horse here that my boarder said I can use for pony rides for little kids.

When the going gets tough, the tough grab mane and kick on!

[nada clue]

Since I used to be one of those annoying people who always wanted to ride someone else's horse until I got one of my own, I try to play the role of ambassador. It can be annoying, but I don't want to contribute to the misconception that horses are an elitist sport and that we're all snobs.
However, as for riding my horse, I just tell them, sure, if they don't mind signing a waiver. If they ask why, I just mumble something about that nasty little incident when the last person rode him. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif My horse isn't affectionate, and wouldn't even be a good candidate to let a non-horse person come out and groom unfortunately. One of these days I'm going to buy a cute but sturdy Haflinger so I can give pony rides.

[SGray]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kandace:
..... Are you offering to come clean a couple stalls so we could ride together? When are you coming out and how long does it take you to clean a stall?"

I have no patience for people who say they love to ride but they don't like the work that's involved. ...

Kandace
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love it

"That lowdown scoundrel deserves to be kicked to death by a jackass, and I'm just the one to do it," --Texas congressional candidate John F. Parker.

[KarenC]

I used to get this kind of thing...

...then last fall, after I broke my neck in a riding accident and everyone got to see me in a halo for three months and witness the long term/permanent nerve damage and still get to witness my regular muscle spasms...

...for some reason people don't seem as interested anymore. For those who weren't around for all that, I can always show them pictures. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[nhwr]

I have 2 horses. Doirna, who can be a bit of a princess and a 4 year old who is coming along nicely, but is still very green.

When people (who don't ride) ask to ride my horses I tell them "You have to really piss me off first" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[June]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nickelodian:
I was reading the "family activity" riding thread, and it reminded me of something I deal with on a weekly basis...the dreaded "ooh I'd like to go riding sometime" comment.

You know what I'm talking about. A co-worker or a friend of a friend finds out you ride horses. They then proceed to tell you about getting bucked off into a fence, run under a tree, kicked in the head, or some other story that they just have to share with you. After that they say "oh but I still love horses and would love to go riding sometime."

Now mind you I understand they'd like to go riding sometime, on a trail, or at a dude ranch. But they just don't understand that they can't come out and climb on top of any old horse at the barn. The worst ones to me are the ones I see weekly, and always have the same comment. I sort of smile, look away and mumble something like "hmm maybe sometime later when the weathers better."

Has anyone come up with a better way?

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http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Just about always I give them my best smile and explain that these are all OTTBs, retirees and if tacked, would think they were off to the races. No one's feelings are hurt, no face lost and I make it a point if I mention I have horses, not to mention I ride. Silence is a good thing. Hope this helps.
June
mind you, there &lt;are&gt; exceptions like that little girl a couple of months ago, but that was very different from what you are describing.

"The world's greatest achievements often happen on the edge of chaos"

[Kels]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaegermonster:
I have used the "My insurance doesn't allow it" one, which really is true, most insurance policies need a special rider for that sort of thing. If that doesn't work I tell them that my horses are not for beginniners.
I really liked the "Sure can I sleep with your husband" response.
I also carry a Waiver of Liability Release and a form that needs to be notarized authorizing medical treatment and with a space for their insurance information and next of kin information in my purse or truck. I reiterate that my horses are not easy to ride and if they insist I give them the forms and tell them to let me know when they want to come out and bring the completed forms. That usually is the end of the discussion. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
But yes I do have a horse here that my boarder said I can use for pony rides for little kids.

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Can I have this form? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

-Kelsey-
It is so easy, in the presence of horses, to appear foolish or incompetent.

[Tisha2]

I just tell them that I like them too much to subject them to possible death and dismemberment. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif


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[deltawave]

I try to encourage people to ride whenever possible, and to not perpetuate the myth that riders are snobbish and superior. If someone asks, I just say "sure, that would be great!" and invite them to call me if they find the time. 95% of the time it never happens--the person is just expressing a general wish and doesn't really REALLY want to do it. The few times I've been taken up on it the people have all been people who used to ride and are reasonably comfortable on a horse.

I always ask (when it gets to the point where the person is really serious) what kind of riding they want to do, and ask them honestly what their experience is, and try to accomodate that, even if I have to borrow a horse. Again, I've never had someone really go through with this who was just a yahoo.

I know it's annoying sometimes the way people misunderstand the horse world, but why turn them off further by automatically saying "no" and assuming the person is clueless or incompetent?

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[Toby's Mom]

I tell folks that my farm/livestock INSURANCE does NOT cover ANYONE riding my horse(s).

I also tell them about the local hack and that they can call them.

To me asking to ride my horse is almost as bad as asking if you can, well, "borrow" my husband http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif The answer is H*LL NO http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Heinz 57]

Beware of local riding places... as I'm sure you all know.

This last summer, I took SO Heinz down to Florence for a sunset beach trail ride. We get there, go through the motions, one of the girls that works there asks us about our experience level and when the last time I'd ridden was. Well, it'd been that morning, so the surprised girl said OK you get to ride this nice mustang named Sandman(buckskin).

We get out on this gravel road, on our way to the dunes, and the guide starts talking to me about horses. Tells me she just started working there about a month ago, and hadn't ridden since she was 12 on her neighbor's pony, but she had ALWAYS wanted to do this for her job. She also tells me that I must be REALLY good to be riding Sandman... she's never ridden him.



You are NOT supposed to be more experienced than your trail guide. This woman is responsible for people's safety...



On the flipside, anyone who wants to ride the critters gets an earful about bucking-rearing-squealing fits. They usually just cringe and walk away. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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[Pol]

We have 2 little girls (3 and 5) who live across the road and are horse CRAZY. I would love nothing more than to help them learn the magic of horses but which one do I let them ride? The 17 year old TB, Intermediate Eventer, who has an ego bigger than the state of Montana? The 4 year old TB, 17hh greenie? How about the 17.2hh TB with EPSM which gives him cramps and causes unannounced bucking sprees? He's the one who broke my ribs last week. Or the 15 year old Prelim eventer. He's the sweetest, sanest, most reliable of the bunch with the HUGEST gaits. Each walk step would pop those little girls right out of the tack! I have already told the mother 6 is the youngest anyone would ever start a child riding. Good grief, the older one turns 6 in August.....

[MistyBlue]

I'll be the first to admit to always wanting to help out the young kid who is horse crazy...or the teen who's always wanted to ride...I try to find them the opportunities to do so. I can well remmeber back in the Stone Age when I was the same way. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
However....grown ups assuming it's okay to out and out ask to come ride your horse get the icy stare, sarcastic reply from me. Not only will someone without experience and an express (and waivered) permission ever get on my mare....but to ask to use/borrow/ride something that isn't yours without invitation is rude, rude, rude. Doesn't matter if it's my car, my husband, my horse, etc. After I bought my current mare, I was stunned and amazed at the people in my neighborhood I barely knew asking me when they could bring their kids down to the barn for a pony ride! Granted, close friends I've called and invited their kids down to ride the school pony along with my daughter, but people I don't know? Argh!

Worsse...right now I'm in the process of packing to move to my own little equine property. (I really should get back to packing, LOL) Now I have people telling me out of the blue..."Great! I've always wanted a horse, but couldn't afford board! Now I can get one!" Ummm, were you planning on me keeping your horse for free? This is coming from cousins, sister in law, casual friend, (very casual) and a couple co workers!
I use the insurance reason for the answer to all these odd questions. I tell them in this litigious society, nobody is riding my horse or boarding at my barn for insurance purposes. Where on earth do people get the cojones? A horse is NOT a public amusement ride. My new home is NOT a commercial boardin stable for those who don't want to pay board. And I would never walk up to my closest neighbor and say "Gee Tom, I love your new Harley Fat Boy! I always wanted to learn how to drive a bike, when can I take it out for a spin?" Tom would shoot me, and rightfully so.

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[Giddy-up]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deltawave:
I know it's annoying sometimes the way people misunderstand the horse world, but why turn them off further by automatically saying "no" and assuming the person is clueless or incompetent?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with you, but somehow it's the I have never ridden before yet your show horse will be the one I should start riding on yahoos that are always asking me. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif Perhaps if I had a pasture pet that had a foot in the ground & I KNEW would be decent, perhaps. But really, I have spent too much sweat & tears on my horse to let Joe Schmoe who's never ridden tool around the field on him. Plus, what happens when this person falls on their head? I know it could never happen in their world, but you better believe they will be the first to sue for all you have got.

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[Sandy M]

Sort of off-topic, but when it comes to rental places, I've found that the best thing to say is "I've ridden a little," or even "I've only ridden a couple of times in my life,"and they'll give you a pretty decent go-down-the-road horse, but if you say "I've ridden most of my life and have my own horse and show...." they'll give you the stubborn, recalcitrant, "I'm not gonna move" nag, because YOU have the experience to "make it go." Aarrrrgh.

[Hopeful Hunter]

I LOVE to encourage people to ride, BUT I don't want them to start on my horse. So here's what I do:

1. Respond enthusiastically -- "Riding is GREAT! You should do it!
2. Suggest a visit -- "Sure you can come and meet my horse..."
3. But NOT a ride on MY horse -- "...no, he's not suitable for riding - he actually put a friend of mine in the hospital once (sadly true - but not really his fault) but he loves people and is very friendy."
4. And then DO suggest a lesson -- "We do lessons at our farm and they're very affordable..."
5. And provide the phone number -- "...here's the number, tell her I sent you."

That's how I handle that. SOMETIMES, if it's someone I know well, or who - after some conversation - clearly did used to ride or some such, I MIGHT tell them to call me some time and I'll see if I can borrow a lesson horse for them. THEN, if they do, and they like it, they get the lesson referral too. Basically, I try to encourage the interest, but also proper instruction.

[deltawave]

Hopeful Hunter, you said it better than I did...thanks! If someone really and truly wants to come for a ride, I'm going to make it as easy as possible for them...perhaps he/she is another convert in the making! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I wouldn't put anyone on my green filly, but my older horse is a saint and I doubt any harm would come to her (or the would-be rider) in a 10 minute ride. I would insist on a helmet, and my barn requires a waiver. If they get past that stage and the fact that Gwen is BIG, then up they'd go for a quick ride. Why not? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My office manager came out for a ride about 6 weeks ago. She had a pony and later an Arab when she was a kid, but hadn't ridden for over 20 years. She's known I have horses since I moved here 2.5 years ago, and we've always said "we should go for a ride" but it took this long to actually orchestrate it. I was going to let her ride Gwen (the aforementioned saint) but she'd banged up her knee in the paddock that weekend so I borrowed a schoolie for her, hopped on Bonnie, and off we went on a very fun ride! Turns out this lady is not lacking in ability or in guts, and we had a blast! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[RHdobes]

Luckily, all of the horses at our barn are privately owned, and none are "for rent."

When my old mare was alive and still rideable, I would allow (only) my cousin to borrow her for trail rides with her husband and/or friends. No one wanted to go faster than a walk, and you could put a western saddle on her with no problem. (I rode her exclusively English after the first year I owned her, even on simple trail rides.)

The barn owner also had a QHX gelding who was a sweetheart of a guy, MUCH better than even my horse. I think the BO took friends of hers on trail rides with Brandy, and my cousin also used him from time to time, with permission.

Both of those horses have passed away, and my cousin owns a VERY GREEN Appaloosa gelding, and I ride an ex-racehorse. My horse has never carried a western saddle, and he overstrides 12" at a regular walk. That walk takes a LOT of getting used to! Also, his trot is very up and down, and his WONDERFUL easy canter covers a tremendous amount of ground (he is 17 hands). On top of that, he occasionally likes to prove his TB heritage by pretending to be afraid of some vicious, horse-eating rock or mailbox. NOT the kind of horse you'd like to put an inexperienced person on, especially in an English saddle.

Funny thing is, the best (quietest) trail horse in the barn now (including the 1/2 Clydesdale, 1/2 Tennessee Walker gelding) IS ANOTHER EX-RACEHORSE gelding. He has been ridden shore-to-shore here (Michigan), camped with, and toted a western saddle. He, too, is privately owned.

It's easy for me to say "no" for these reasons. Thankfully, no one is pestering me for 'pony rides.'

[Adelita]

Oh yes, I get that all the time...

I usually say that my horse is not trained yet, and besides I never let anyone ride her but me (said with a smile takes the sting out of it). I board at a public trail barn that does trail rides through 52 miles of trails in Griffith Park, and I usually tell them about that. Mostly, though, they won't do it because they all want to "run" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif and the trail rides are walk only. I've given up explaining how "running" the horses with inexperienced riders is dangerous and is so bad for the horses, because no one cares. They just want to gallop.

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[Karma]

I have the same problem with a well meaning rather large uncle who thinks that because my horse is big that he can ride him. However if you see my topic "What would you do" in the dressage forum you can understand why letting someone who has never (or at least not in a very long time) ridden on my big guy is asking for trouble. My OTTB mare is suitable for novices to plod around the ring on, but I have worked hard with her and wouldn't let just anyone on her. I work to damn hard for someone else to have the fun! The two new ones I have arent even broke, so that should keep people off for a while!!

Karma, the Big Guy and Miss OTTB, now with two new PMU mammas!

[slc2]

i smile and say, ''oh that could be fun. i know a stable that rents horses for trail rides. i'll make reservations for next sunday, if you like!''

if they say, ''i want to ride your horse'', i say, ''i'm sorry, no.''

it's very simple.

i have let people get up on my horse, and it is just too dangerous. my horse is a SAINT, and people who don't know how to ride are loose cannons. they can get killed just standing on a mounting block. never again.

[Tomboy]

a tanget ill admit.. but

I was at a show in Camden SC last summer with all the babies in the barn. The barn manager was walking two of the 3 year olds back up the hill to the barn (and if you've been to camden, you know that hill) while screaming at pony kids to not move so she might make it to the top of the hill alive with two horses. When she finally hit the top of the hill, a pregnate woman pushing a stroller with a 3 year old kid in it comes up and asks if she lead one of the horses if her kid could have a ride on it. The barn manager almost died. she didnt want to ask the mother if she wanted to kill her child, or if she missed the screaming to the ponys to hold up so she could make it to the top of the hill alive.
and this person must have had some interest in horses or they would not have been at the horse show.... i really have to wonder about people somedays..

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[Scootie]

Well, I have to admit that for a much too long period of my life, my only chance to even sit on a horse was a rare trip to a trail barn. So, I feel like I have gotten to be something of a conoisseur of trail barns. This is because the rides were wonderful (even if only at a walk in a western saddle) or they were horrible, EXPENSIVE fiascos with not much middle ground.

So before I would recommend or take someone to a trail barn, I would do a little research beforehand. I do this when we go on vacation anyway, and sometimes it is just an interesting subject.

I start by reading the websites and/or brochures and try to familiarize myself with the way they operate. A lot of times the process of elimination goes pretty far just in this step. I will not knowingly do business with any place that allows small children to ride double with their parents (you would be surprised how many do, and offer a discount for the kid), or uses/permits bicycle helmets instead of riding helmets. If they require everyone to wear a helmet that is a plus, but as long as they require them for kids AND offer and encourage them for adults, I'm fine with that.

Not only are these safety issues, but these things also can tell you something about the knowledge base and the ethics of the operators. Trail barns are probably the least regulated and monitored part of the horse industry and we all know about that. You can't assume the management knows what they are doing.

If they offer a choice of tack, it is usually a plus--this sometimes indicates a provider who is at least somewhat higher on the learning curve. I usually contact the ones I haven't ruled out and ask about this and if I can bring my own saddle. The answer doesn't so much matter--I don't mind riding western all that much, but the manner in which it is answered can be revealing as all get out. One time, we were at this barn and someone mentioned that I rode English, and the trail guide made all these comments about my riding "Dressage". http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif (I don't know boo about Dressage.) Then when I asked if she could shorten my stirrups one more notch because I would be more comfortable, she said, "you really aren't going to need ALL THOSE ANGLES!" http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif Well, I will never darken these peoples doorstep again, nor will I ever send anybody out there! It's one thing to only use one kind of tack, but please be respectful of other people's disciplines.

If the friend/relative absolutely MUST go riding and its someone I have previously observed on a horse and they look dreadful, I would, if possible try to steer them towards some place that can put them on Australian Stock Saddles. I actually read somewhere that they are designed for people who don't ride well. I personally despise the things for the same reason I would try to get certain people to ride on them--the "poleys" are placed in such a way as to force your butt back into the seat, and you can't really get forward enough where a non-rider can really get into trouble.

Especially if this is on a trip Mr. Scootie and I are going on, I ask if they do "private rides". We will even pay a little more for this if they ask--I can not stand getting stuck behind a grass munching slowpoke with a non-rider sitting on its back (there is a distinction between "beginner" and "non-rider"), also it is the best way to assure a good quality trip.

I almost forgot, if it is somewhere local, I try to find out what their reputation is like--that could make or break a decision.

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[fullmoon fever]

Bad enough those who don't know how....I once let a former boarder ride one of my horses for ONE HOUR because he had finished riding his and was "bored".

It took me THREE DAYS to get my horse to go forward again. With all this person's years of experience, silly me thought he actually knew what he was doing!

He rode his horse faithfully 6 days/week and in the 5 years he boarded with me, I can truthfully say that horse never got one bit better....he actually got worse. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Thank gawd I never took him up on his many offers to help start my youngsters. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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[CrossedWings]

Well the one thing I NEVER do is offer to let them come riding because the whole idea of injuries, law suits, etc, is just, oh-so unappealing.. I usually just sigh and politely say something along the lines of, "That's nice."

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[Tucked_Away]

Play dumb. They say, "I'd like to go riding sometime," and I say, "Oh, that's a great idea! You should." Most of the folks I encounter aren't interested enough to follow it up with, "Can I try your horse?" and so all is well.

If they do? "No, I'm sorry, I'm really not comfortable with other people riding him." It's not entirely true; my mother and sister and a horsey friend have ridden him once each. But they're all people who have an understanding of what riding involves; they all had nice quiet rides, closely supervised (and in my mom's case, on the longe).

Someone who I don't know, or who thinks they know more than they do? Yeah. Just-not-comfortable.

[PaintedCash]

LOL I'm spoiled since I board at a rental barn.. if a friend wants to ride, I say "great! got 18 bucks to rent?" and I have done it a few times.. tacked up my hosrie and a friend rents, and we have a good time. I have let one friend sit on my old horse, but other then that, he's too hot for a beginner. And no beginners on my baby, but I have let some friends that ride on him.
If I were in that situiation, I'd just explain that my horse is a nutball and needs someone experienced to ride him http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Kinda scares newbies off LOL

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[tcgelec]

A few years ago, an acquaintance of mine, an older man, asked if his "experienced rider" wife could come by and "help me with the horses". I'm generally eager to meet new horse people, and even more so at that particular time because I had just moved into my own backyard barn, so I missed the social interaction of a boarding barn a little (got over that!) From the husband's description I was envisioning someone on the level of Sally Swift, but when she showed up it was obvious that she was not experienced or comfortable around horses. She told me that she had been thrown from horse and was knocked unconscious, and had developed a fear. I'm not an instructor, but one thing that I can do pretty well is work with a fearful rider, and I have the perfect mare for that. She can build anyone's confidence and it really requires very little from me except getting the rider up there and speaking encouraging words. So, I kind of naturally gravitated to the situation. It was obvious before long that the woman was an accident waiting to happen. She had a love of horses, but no horse sense at all. In the two minutes that my attention was diverted I caught her grooming the mare with the mare's nose in the corner of the fencing (no way out)and her standing between the mare and the fence, and my gelding running over with pinned ears. About 5 seconds away from a squashed guest and a lawsuit. She was completely oblivious. Then she started showing up when I wasn't there, as evidenced by the nylon halter left on the turned-out mare. I asked her to not do anything with the horses when I was not there, but she saw fit to bring her two 4 yr old grandchildren over to "help with the horses" when I wasn't there also. When I came home one day and found her tacked up and mounted without permission, I knew I had to do something. I initially tried the complicated, scary release forms citing a new insurance carrier etc. I thought it would scare her away but she produced them with the efficiency of a paralegal. I finally had to take a more direct approach, saying that I felt I had taken her as far as I could (which was true) and that it was time for her to take the next step and get a trainer at a lesson barn, and I recommended one. She resisted at first, but the last I heard she was jumping crossrails at age 65!
She stopped by last weekend to feed smoe carrots to my horses for the holidays. Her exact words were, "I came to feed some carrots to your horses. Where do you keep them?"
Don't get me started!

As has been said before, it's only a job if you'd rather be doing something else.

[June]

when we were growing up, we found a "diamond in the rough" in a dairy barn. The most amiable white welsh gelding of questionable age who looked like a wooly mammouth. With liquid eyes that would melt one's soul. He came home not even having been ridden. We clipped him and he was perfect and revealed himself to be a beautiful spirit and mind. He entered joyfully into the role of "guest" horse as he was a sturdy 14.3 http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif barefoot. But he was the most amiable, patient, packer who truly anyone could ride in a rubber snaffle and was so affectionate on the ground. When the family moved in the 70s our farrier bought him for his grandaughter and he had many happy years with her. We named him "Florian".
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[Amwrider]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sandy M:
Sort of off-topic, but when it comes to rental places, I've found that the best thing to say is "I've ridden a little," or even "I've only ridden a couple of times in my life,"and they'll give you a pretty decent go-down-the-road horse, but if you say "I've ridden most of my life and have my own horse and show...." they'll give you the stubborn, recalcitrant, "I'm not gonna move" nag, because YOU have the experience to "make it go." Aarrrrgh.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you are lucky you will get the "I'm not gonna move" nag....
or they may give you the young/inexperience/new horse that may not be fully broke or that they need training tiem put into and figure you could be the right person to put miles on the horse for them.

I have one of these places next door to me.

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[artienallie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deltawave:
I know it's annoying sometimes the way people misunderstand the horse world, but why turn them off further by automatically saying "no" and assuming the person is clueless or incompetent?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, deltawave, now you make me feel bad! It's true, I've told people here in the office "no" when it comes to riding MY horses, but I've also recommended an excellent lesson barn in the area to a couple of the people who had asked, and I'm thrilled to get my weekly updates. The most recent was, "My daughter was bucked off last week! I was so proud, she jumped up and got right back on and finished her lesson!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[horse_poor]

i just say "i dont have any horses i can put you on---mine are kinda high strung and for very experienced riders only"

Molly, Aristotle, and Brown Baggin' in MN

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[nycjumper]

Just trot out the insurance mumbo-jumbo. You know "Unfortunately my (home/equine/whatever) insurance doesn't cover any riders but me in case of an accident so it's not a possibility. However X stable is a great place if you're interested in lessons."

Short & to the point.

[Hunter's Rest]

I used to get the same from office mates or parents of local kids. Here's how I handled it: Since I have several very nice quiet horses, I just bucked up and paid for liability insurance etc. from an equine insurer and get people to PAY me to ride my horses. Yes, horses can be tricky, but heck, under my 'instruction' any old tom dick or harry can certainly manage to practice arm swings and broomstick polo on my guys, in my nicely fenced arena. That way, I'm partially paying for my horse habit with OPM (other people's money). Hehehehehe. A couple of $25 "lessons" (again, nothing more than getting 2 of my horses exercised at once, me on one, friend-kid on one, with simple 'instruction' - I was a pony clubber but am certainly NOT a bigtime trainer, just an adequate horseman). I dont' claim to be a high level teacher - I had a kid that was actually pretty good and I sent her to a big name trainer in the area when she'd fully learned up down, leads, small jumps. Everyones happy. Try it - this way you don't have to automatically turn down every person who asks. Also, the ones who want to 'yeehah' for free can squiggle out of it when they learn that yes, they can ride with you but they have to pay!!!!

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[Montanas_Girl]

I see that I'm in the minority here. When someone asks me to ride my horse, I (gasp!) happily invite them out. Montana can be more than a little hot when I ride him, but he is completely trustworthy with beginners. Depending on the person's age and confidence level, I either lead him, put him on a longe line, or let them ride in the round pen. A few of them do a little trotting, but for the most part, all they really want to do is walk around for 15-20 minutes. He appreciates that he doesn't have to "work" that day, and I get to introduce a new person to horses. Also, I use these moments to prove to "slightly horsey" people that Arabians are not nutcases who can't do anything but look pretty.

"This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

[4cornersfarm]

I've got a slight deviation from this question. How do you handle your kid's friends who want to ride? I teach lessons and would rather not do it for free. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif My daughter doesn't want her friends to get upset with her. The last time it happened, I put the kid on the longe line. I think she was pretty bored after ten minutes or so, and then I carefully explained that I teach lessons for money and can't really provide free lessons to all my kids' friends. Is there a better way to deal with this?

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[Vandy]

I had an old, quiet QH gelding I bought at a killer auction for just this reason. Bombproof, anyone could ride him, and I really think he enjoyed walking around with a beginner on his back. My guests were reponsible for learning to brush him and tack him up (and if I was feeling particularly generous I would let them pick out his stall!). Of course if you are paying to board your horses somewhere it's not so easy to do something like that.

I did have one guest (a friend's boyfriend) who came out and took a short ride on the old guy and then said he could "train" my 4 year old fresh-off-the-track TB mare for me (mind you this guy's riding experience consisted of "a few trailrides") because he was so much physically stronger than I was. GRRRR!

[Kels]

If your daughter's friends get mad at her- they're wrong. How old is your daughter? I would just tell her that when she tells people she has horses she should mention your occupation- "Oh, my Mom is a trainer- she teaches people to ride as a career." Seems simple enough now, but maybe I'm wrong.

Also, when your daughter's friends want to ride, tell them you want to call their parents because you can't just give lessons to anyone without liability papers being signed http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Then, when you're on the phone with their parents, mention that you do this as a career and that if their child wants to continue riding, it's best that they put them in a lesson program.

-Kelsey-
It is so easy, in the presence of horses, to appear foolish or incompetent.

[gibbsshred]

There is a guy at work that was constantly asking when he can come to ride.....he's never even stood next to a horse let alone rode one....I kept trying to mention different trail ride places he could go to (meaning I wasn't going with him) but he would persist. Well....I broke my collarbone in two place in the end of November after a nasty fall and......well he stopped asking. Although initially he made the comment that he'd get on....no way he'd get bucked off.......yeah right.

[Holly Jeanne]

Easy, I tell them one can't be ridden in the summer because of photic headshaking and that my sister, who used to show, won't even get on her as she is very sensitive. I tell them my other one is an OTTB and pregnant and that the third isn't old enough to ride yet. I tell them I don't even get to do much riding. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[eclipse]

I just say "sorry, Ellie's not for trail rides, but if you're interested in lessons I can get you a price sheet for the barn"......shut's them up pretty fast.

If they still want to come out & ride, I just show them the long scar on my arm from having plate & 6 screws. Explain (in my best you don't really understand anything about horses so here goes voice)"Oh, this is what happened when Ellie bucked me off. It's quite a dangerous sport you know". At this point, they are usually turning quite a nice shade of green & stammering "oh, I think maybe I've changed my mind".

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[deltawave]

Why do so many of you all go out of your way to discourage people from even taking an interest in horses? I cannot understand this!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deltawave:
Why do so many of you all go out of your way to discourage people from even taking an interest in horses? I cannot understand this!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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Because they are snobs who do not want to share! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I cannot believe some of you! It's fine if you have a green, or a horse that only experienced people can ride, but if you have an quiet horse, give you co-workers, friends, etc a chance! I have people ask me all the time if they could ride my horse. If they really want to they come out.

I get my horse, show them how to groom, tack up etc.. Then I get on and show them how to warm up a horse. Then they get on. I tell you, some people who knock horses fall in love when they get to ride. It's a whole new experience that for them and it makes me happy when they are smiling on my horse! When they get use to riding and developed proper balance and skills I take them out on the trail.

If somebody wants to ride with me, I give them a chance. They really enjoy the barn and the horses. Some even start to take lessons and down the road buy a horse when they are experienced enough!

That is how I got my start. My neighbor would take me trail riding all the time because I couldn't have a horse. It also teaches responsibility and it's great exercise!

It's also a great way to bond with people.

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[This message was edited by Nikkibaby27 on Jan. 08, 2004 at 12:23 PM.]

[Oxerbound]

I think part of the problem is that so many people have negative experiences, and there ARE risks involved. Plus, we all know how expensive horses are, and for many, I'd guess they're also a source of escape and relaxation (ah, the irony http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif). Sometimes I just don't want to share my barn-time with others, especially since I know that I won't get any productive ride-time if a newbie is there, needing my help.

That said, I've had friends who know I ride who have asked to come with me, and I've welcomed eagerly. However, I make a few things clear beforehand. I tell them that I would love to show them my horses and I have one that they can sit on, but since they haven't ridden before, it will be in a strictly lesson-type arrangement. (ie, less "galloping through fields", more walking in the indoor). When I moved and that horse wasn't available, I just told them I didn't have a horse they could ride, though occasionally I would strap my helmet onto said person's head and let them sit on my horse while I hand-walked him to cool out.

If we're in the middle of show-season, I also explain that my riding time is limited and I really need to work my horse, but they're welcome to watch me ride. Often, people are really excited to do this, and they learn a lot and ask good questions. Plus, they really seem to like helping groom and learning how to tack up the horse, and feeding him treats and whatnot. One of my friends felt really special when I asked her to hold the horse's reins while I went to grab my helmet http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Anyway, I think "repetitive askers" really do want to learn about horses, and are often more accomodating that we think. Two of my friends became repeated barn groupies and accompanied me often, whether or not they got to ride, and one even went on to taking consistent lessons and bought a horse of her own later.

Really, I think it's easier for people to enter such unfamiliar territory as riding by going with someone familiar, rather than just making a random phone call. And though I admit that if someone I'm introduced to says "Oh, you ride? I've always wanted to! You should let me come ride your horse," I'll just nod, smile, and make an excuse to leave, I will generally make a big effort to help those close or semi-close to me get involved with horses.

"You people have held me back long enough! I'm going to join a clown college."

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[ExRacer]

I explain that my horse is a nut and I don't let anyone else take the risk of riding her http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I explain that I am liable if anything were to happen, so I don't take the risk. however, I will usually offer to take them out to the barn for a visit, but only at odd hours when the barn isn't hectic.

~Shanon~
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[DutchOwner]

I generally do what everyone else has mentioned, i.e., not suitable, competition horses, particular on who rides them, etc. etc...but I add that I'm always looking for people to come out and help and if they'd just like to spend some time with the horses grooming and such that would be fine...it's a great way to solicit help and determine people's competence at the same time, while allowing people an outlet for their love of horses. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[Scootie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nikkibaby27:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deltawave:
Why do so many of you all go out of your way to discourage people from even taking an interest in horses? I cannot understand this!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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Because they are snobs who do not want to share! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I cannot believe some of you! It's fine if you have a green, or a horse that only experienced people can ride, but if you have an quiet horse, give you co-workers, friends, etc a chance! I have people ask me all the time if they could ride my horse. If they really want to they come out.

I get my horse, show them how to groom, tack up etc.. Then I get on and show them how to warm up a horse. Then they get on. I tell you, some people who knock horses fall in love when they get to ride. It's a whole new experience that for them and it makes me happy when they are smiling on my horse! When they get use to riding and developed proper balance and skills I take them out on the trail.

If somebody want to ride with me, I give them a chance. They really enjoy the barn and the horses. Some even start to take lessons and down the rode buy a horse when they are experiences enough!

That is how I got my start. My neighbor would take me trail riding all the time because I couldn't have a horse. It also teaches responsibility and it's great exercise!

It's also a great way to bond with people.

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Oh come on, It's not about snobbery at all, just that horse owners generally want to feel OK about their decision to allow or not allow other people to ride THEIR horse.

Many people's horses represent a large investment not only financially but of time, energy and personal comittment. Many people who love their horses may not feel it is in the horse's best interest to let inexperienced people get on them. There are some other very responsible horse owners of kind, suitable horses, who have no problem with this, but usually they have a system or "technique" in place to protect the horse and their friend.

Lots of posters have been willing to recommend horsey opportunities to friends and relatives including trail barns or beginner instructors, especially if they are not comfortable allowing their own horse to be used this way.

The bottom line it that as in other areas of life it HAS to be OK to say NO. To anyone at any time for any reason.

Also, why do you assume NO means a blanket NO to riding horses--I don't think anyone on here has meant that, usually it is more of NO you can not ride MY horse. Personally, I have no problem with locating a trail barn and taking someone there to get a horsey fix (I would not recommend a trail barn to someone else that I would not patronize myself). I also have one family member who I will not do this with because she has proven herself to be at an unusual level of risk on a horse. And I have a sister who I will not do this with because, frankly I can't stand her attitude and couldn't put up with it for that long. Both of these people certainly have the right to find these opportunities on their own (they both have) and do what they want. In the case of my sister, I would not mind suggesting a place to ride if she asked because she's done this before, she's not scared of horses, and I think she would be fine. The other person I would not recommend ANY riding unless she is seeking instruction and I have even offered to help her with that.

So just because someone is not share their PERSONAL horse with others does not in any way indicate they are trying to simply prevent these folks from getting on a horse. Most horse people in fact are more than happy to share their pleasure with others, but want to do it in a way that is appropriate for them, their horses, the person wanting to ride and all the extenuating circumstances.

So don't go getting your britches in a wad just because I told you you can't ride my horse. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Founder and president of the No-Legged Rider Clique

[BelladonnaLily]

When they say "I'd like to go riding sometime", I guess the best answer would be "Great! Where?" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Seriously, honesty is probably best. Such as, "I don't have an appropriate horse for a "recreational" rider." Or "I board at a facility that will not allow me to bring guests to ride." Or even "Horses can be dangerous to anyone, especially someone inexperienced. I do not feel qualified to supervise you and keep you safe. I suggest riding lessons at (fill in the blank)."

[deltawave]

No, I wasn't saying it's wrong to try and dissuade someone who's never ridden from wanting to try out your just-broke greenie, but some of the attitudes (using the "you don't really understand anything" voice, or "my horse is high strung"--does anybody really say that?--or "I'm worried about lawsuits" or lying to people...) are kind of sad. We spend so much time kvetching how horse sports are unpopular and people have so many misconceptions...what a paradox!

I daresay an honest answer (like belladonna mentioned) would go a lot farther and give a better impression than a big blow-off, which I'll bet the average person can discern in a heartbeat.

I hate to think where I'd be if the person whose pony I begged to sit on--just once--had coldly dismissed me as a "horse crazy kid with no experience". (which was true) I'd probably be getting more work done, but it was the start of my riding life and I'm forever grateful to that person!

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[Scootie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deltawave:
No, I wasn't saying it's wrong to try and dissuade someone who's never ridden from wanting to try out your just-broke greenie, but some of the attitudes (using the "you don't really understand anything" voice, or "my horse is high strung"--does anybody really say that?--or "I'm worried about lawsuits" or lying to people...) are kind of sad. We spend so much time kvetching how horse sports are unpopular and people have so many misconceptions...what a paradox!

I daresay an honest answer (like belladonna mentioned) would go a lot farther and give a better impression than a big blow-off, which I'll bet the average person can discern in a heartbeat.

I hate to think where I'd be if the person whose pony I begged to sit on--just once--had coldly dismissed me as a "horse crazy kid with no experience". (which was true) I'd probably be getting more work done, but it was the start of my riding life and I'm forever grateful to that person!

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No I was only saying that the to not allow someone else to ride a horse is always valid, whether it is a horse that is not suitable, or whether someone does not want to share the horse. If I wasn't limited by my lease agreement to only one rider, I still wouldn't let just anybody do that. And this is a horse that used to be used in beginner lessons, he is about as lazy as they make them. The lazy, stubborn old thing has also taught me more about riding than any instructor ever could, so maybe I feel obligated to not subject him to unnecessary discomfort. Hey, he totes my sorry ass all over the place and doesn't complain too much, so why should I ask for more? And I think a lot of people have that kind of relationship with their horse, especially if it is the only one they own or have the use of.

This is a very personal decision that only the owner of the horse should have to make and no one should feel guilty if they say "no" for any reason. Also suggesting alternatives such as affordable lessons, trail rides, etc. are anything but a brush off, it is actually a very nice way to help someone get started who might not be aware of these resources.

Concerns about insurance coverage, liability, etc. are not a lie--unfortunately this is a reality for ANY horse owner, but also for stable owners and other parties who could be adversely affected. For a lot of people, this is a more comfortable explanation than going into some of the other reasons, which would probably be more potentially unpleasant.

Then there are some people who are too persistent, who won't take no for an answer or listen to reason. This is really not socially acceptable behavior on their part, why should someone have to be subjected to this simply because they have a horse, even if said horse would be perfectly OK? A more stern response, including "there are things you JUST DON'T KNOW" responses, is sometimes necessary to put an end to this cycle.

I have also been on the other side of the picture, have asked people if I could ride their horse (a long time ago), sometimes they said yes, sometimes they said no. The probability of anyone really getting me started riding as a child was pretty much negated anyway by a parent who was extremely hostile to the idea. I appreciated the "yes"s but could also emphasised with the "no"s, especially after having been forced to share my things with younger siblings and getting too many back broken.

I just don't like the idea that if you own a horse who can be safely ridden by just anybody, you have any obligation whatsoever to allow it to happen. Unless you want to. But if you don't want to you shouldn't have to.

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[PortraitPainter]

I had a non-horsey friend come visit me when I was a barn manager last summer. He wasn't pushy or anything, but was expecting a trail ride. I put him on the laziest horse at the barn, strapped him up in the safety gear in the sweltering heat and made him walk and try to steer in a small paddock. After about 15 minutes of rubbernecking around the paddock (with me snarking at him to keep his chest open and heels down, knees relaxed, steer dammit!), friend decided it wasn't as fun as he thought, and there were going to be no long glorious and harmonious tampon-commercial-type gallops through verdant fields, and that riding really IS alot of work (plus after seeing me fall off during interval training), he decided that he didn't want to go on a trail ride afterall.

The thing is, unless the wannabe is truly an ass, once they get on and try to coordinate everything there is to coordinate about riding, AND realize that, yes, horsies DO have a mind of their own and WILL veer towards the gate and it IS a little scary to lose so much control of your direction, people are pretty understanding about a horse-owner's reluctance to let 'em hop on and hi-ho silver away.

So, I say, invite them out and let them try. Then make them try to post the trot. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Valentina_32926]

If they're of the right size I can put them on my very quiet 14.2 hand mare. But since I don't have a ring (large open pastures) they go on a lead or lunge line. When they want to ride sans my restraint I tell them for liability purposes they need a helmet (and can purchase one locally for about $90.00), boots or shoes with a heel and I need a ring. And so no - I can't "let them go free". It was really neat though to meet a new co-worker who stated she was rusty but rode while growing up then find out rusty equated to could ride in beautiful form but muscles were sore by the next day. Turns out she learned from a child until she was an adult undder Carl Bessett - a BNT for hunter/jumpers. At the end of the trail ride that day (she started by riding in my pasture, then we went on a trail ride) she even jumped my (then) green (in jumping) mare over a small jump (2 foot) with beautiful form, correcting the mare before allowing her to jump the fence!

But she is the exception, although I've been lucky to find a few people this way who later became a close horsey friend.

Sandy in Fla.

[Liretta]

I would love to be able to say my mare is an ambassador for the Arabian breed and that she will allow anyone to ride her, but it just isn't the case, so I cannot. If she was as sweet as she looks, safe and gentle, you can bet I would allow her to be ridden by others. I have to discourage it for liability reasons and because I have enough emotional problems with this mare and I don't need to make her more untrusting of me.
Some day I hope to have a sane, quiet horse that my daughter's friends can take for a hack when they come to visit.

[DH]

I suggest a trail riding barn down the road which we could all go to, then we could drop in on my girl and feed her some carrots.

I explain that they can't ride my horse because I like them too much to fetch them down from the rafters or scrape them off the wall http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[beasley]

this is just my personal experience of course, but i get really frustrated when people you have just met tell you they know how to ride and have ridden several times. sometimes they even know what to call the bridle, saddle, etc. and can talk a decent talk. i have a really hard time arguing that my horse is too difficult or in training because they try to convince me they can handle it. in an effort not to be a total b*tch, i concede to take them to the farm and let them ride a dead broker QH. when they walk out to the field holding the halter by the cheek piece and try to wrap it around the poor horses ear...i know i am in trouble. what do you do when people just flat out lie, and won't take no for an answer? it is not that i don't want them to ride, but they are putting my, my horse, my farm not to mention themselves in a very dangerous position by misrepresenting their riding ability.

[beasley]

this is just my personal experience of course, but i get really frustrated when people you have just met tell you they know how to ride and have ridden several times. sometimes they even know what to call the bridle, saddle, etc. and can talk a decent talk. i have a really hard time arguing that my horse is too difficult or in training because they try to convince me they can handle it. in an effort not to be a total b*tch, i concede to take them to the farm and let them ride a dead broker QH. when they walk out to the field holding the halter by the cheek piece and try to wrap it around the poor horses ear...i know i am in trouble. what do you do when people just flat out lie, and won't take no for an answer? it is not that i don't want them to ride, but they are putting my, my horse, my farm not to mention themselves in a very dangerous position by misrepresenting their riding ability.

[Phaxxton]

I recommend a good hack stable or lesson barn. I then explain that all horses are not made equal, etc., etc. and that it's safest to go that route for beginners or inexperienced riders. I also don't let anyone ride my horse, so that solves that. I don't feel bad saying "no" when people ask to ride him. He's not beginner safe and I don't want anyone getting hurt.

[Pixie Dust]

The only person who has ever pressed the issue of riding my green TB was a total butt-wipe. I didn't want him in my house, let alone near my animals. It had nothing to do with snobbery. I have taken plenty of friends out to ride in the past, and have given "pony rides" on Hektor as well.

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[Beethoven]

I am always like yeah uh huh maybe sometime beacause right now (make up a reason). I mean it is one thing if the person rides horses, but if they have never ridden before then its def no thanks you.

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[Nikki^]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deltawave:
No, I wasn't saying it's wrong to try and dissuade someone who's never ridden from wanting to try out your just-broke greenie, but some of the attitudes (using the "you don't really understand anything" voice, or "my horse is high strung"--does anybody really say that?--or "I'm worried about lawsuits" or lying to people...) are kind of sad. We spend so much time kvetching how horse sports are unpopular and people have so many misconceptions...what a paradox!

I daresay an honest answer (like belladonna mentioned) would go a lot farther and give a better impression than a big blow-off, which I'll bet the average person can discern in a heartbeat.

I hate to think where I'd be if the person whose pony I begged to sit on--just once--had coldly dismissed me as a "horse crazy kid with no experience". (which was true) I'd probably be getting more work done, but it was the start of my riding life and I'm forever grateful to that person!

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I agree with you 100%. Come on people! Give them a chance for goodness sake!

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[ZappBranagan]

"Well before we go any further, you should know that these are OTTBs still working as competitive sport horses. Also, do you have a disability policy that would provide coverage? Last summer, nearly half of the riders in our barn were in casts (not a lie) and they're all seasoned competitors. I can ask around to see if anyone has a crush vest in your size..." It's good to keep some big pictures up of eventing competitors in your office/cube, then you can always gesture at it: "this is what sport horses think of as fun, so imagine what can happen if they get scared..... Still, you should come out and meet them sometime and see if you want to get back into the sport."

I'd love to bring them to the barn on a windy night when they're being brought in for feeding. Stand them right at the door and let them see the TB's come galloping up the aisle right at them. Something about 1200 lbs of TB muscle coming straight at you and not even attempting to put on the brakes until the last possible second will pretty much convince even the most hardiest of blowhards that maybe thay are not masters of the universe.

[Holly Jeanne]

I don't think not allowing people who ask to ride your horse is necessarily discouraging them from an interest in horses. I always tell them than I'd be happy to have them out to groom and to help me with the in hand work. I tell them I'd love for them to brush the 8 month old (with supervision) so she can get used to lots of people. As yet, no one has wanted to do that, just ride. That, to me, doesn't spell an interest in horses. As a kid, I would have jumped at the chance even to groom. As I've had experienced riders who had a hard time riding my mare (ie sister who showed and won in equitation), I'm not willing to risk the persons health or my mares. The other mare is pregnant and the baby is 8 months. I don't think most of us would discourage a true interest but there is a difference between someone who is really interested in horses and someone who wants a ride without paying for a commercial trail ride.

[Celebrity]

I have lots of people that say to me "so when can I come ride your horse?".. These are aquaintances that have ridden in camps, etc.. when they are younger.. I tell them the truth.. Well my mare can sometimes be a biatch to mount.. if you touch her with your toe, hesitate to get up, or even come CLOSE to touching her loin area with your foot as you are going over.. a rear/spin will happen.. Other than that she will buck at least 3 times during a ride.. 99% of the time when cantering.. and if you rip on her face she will dump you.. therefore you cannot ride her unless we make up a little waiver for WHEN (not if..) she hurts you.. hehehe.. Now don't get me wrong, my horse is not evil.. she just needs a rider who is experience with youngsters.. I have a few friends that ride her whenever I can't and they love her... I just only let people who ride similar to me get on her as she is just starting training.. Also people who don't know much.. I tell them that her back is like 6"2 and that deters them.. hehehe.. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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[SteadyPace]

Nick - are there any school horses at the barn that they could ride?

I agree with deltawave, I think it's awesome that someone would want to try riding, but I'd never sacrifice my horse to their inexperienced ways. I've had many friends come out to the barn, watch me ride and then hop on an old schooly to saunter around the ring. If you have school horses at your barn, that's a great way to get them interested.

We should all encourage people to start riding and at the least educate them so they have an understanding of equestrian sports. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"Friends don't let friends reply to all"

[Sandy M]

Actually, I have OFFERED to let friend's kids (and friends) ride my horse: But I've made it very clear that I have ONE horse, and that the offer to let them ride means "Come out and pet and groom and I will let you get on and I will lead him around." Period.

If they maintain that they DO know how to ride, or rode as a kid, etc., then I tell them about the local trail ride business, guided trail rides, the cost, etc., and that I will be happy to ride along with them. That usually sorts out the genuinely interested from the yahoos looking for a free ride with the attitude that a horse is just another version of a bicycle/motorcycle, etc.

[Giddy-up]

If I ever had an encounter with somebody asking that genuinely wanted to learn about horses & care & stuff, then I would do what I could to help them & direct them in the proper directions. I have actually had friends out to ride my horse, but they have their own horses & know how to ride already.

Unfortunately, the only people who have asked to ride my horse are the ones that expect to come out in warm weather & hop on a horse that I have cleaned and tacked up for them and oh while I am at it--can I do something about that smell?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif They then want to ga-lump around without instruction cause they "already know how" & then hand the horse back to me when they are done so they can leave for their next destination. Sorry, those people are the ones that get the flip answers back. Not to mention they aren't my "friend" so I think that's pretty nervy to ask a stranger to borrow something of theirs. You don't see me asking to borrow their child so I can "try" out parenting first & see if I am any good at it. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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[dogchushu]

Hmmmmm, I have a beginner-tolerant horse. Would I let someone inexperienced ride her?

The decision is similar to when I drove a manual transmission car and people would ask if they could learn to drive a stick in my car.

Yes for very good friends--provided they were with me at the time and could tolerate me frequently telling them what to do and what not to do. No for not-so-good friends and acquaintances.

I wouldn't let someone go out ya-hooing on the trails on my mare. But if they just want to get on and walk around the ring a bit (after I lead them around a few times first), sure. Just walking around, it's unlikely that they'll do anything bad to her. I do warn them that she could spook (hey, she's not a machine) and if they're fine with that, it's no problem.



"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison

[Clydejumper]

If they genuinely want to ride I normally let them ride my old timer. But most just want to say they rode a horse. So them I show my 19 hand Clyde mare and they normally loose interest real quick http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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[Scootie]

"long glorious and harmonious tampon-commercial-type gallops through verdant fields"

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