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theinstigator
Nov. 8, 2010, 10:29 PM
I have started to upload my videos from the Maclay finals this year. I will be uploading the rest of the top 18, as well as the videos from the Sporthorse Cup throughout the week as I have time :)

Enjoy!

Hayley Barnhill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um4DJZ5jEI0)

Michael Hughes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7N5t3qL8Y)

Catherine Tyree (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCAPpp1QhNM)

Taylor Ann Adams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWmr7Nijvus)

Lillie Keenan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI02t-qJWBc)

Theodore Boris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLtiPhheD44)

Schaefer Raposa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOF25ptlwuo)

Lucy Davis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7TxYrkz7N0)

Emily Reynolds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXfxxx7I9A)

Sydney Smith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdsW1E180Q8)

Demi Stiegler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBtjhZD_Mf4)

mustangsal85
Nov. 8, 2010, 10:39 PM
Great videos! I personally like Hayley's ride much better than Zazou's (last year, right?), very quiet!

Roxy SM
Nov. 8, 2010, 11:19 PM
Thanks for posting those videos. I saw the first rounds on the live feed but then wasn't home to see the second rounds. After seeing them I am surprised they chose Hayley over Michael. I suppose the flat section is what put her on top, but I actually preferred his rides in both over fences rounds. Of course hers were very good, but his position was much more secure. To me, it seemed her ankle was wiggly over the jumps and she moved her foot to spur her horse every step. Sometimes she was in half seat, sometimes she kind of sat. Michael, on the other hand, was rock solid. No part of his leg ever budged and he stayed in the light following seat with perfect posture the whole time without looking stiff. He had a wonderful elastic feeling with his horse and really kept him between his hand and leg beautifully at all times. They both rode all the technical questions extremely well, his round just seemed very confident and stylish. Then again, perhaps I am just biased because I've been watching him ride since he was doing pony jumpers and even back then he had a great feel and so much natural talent!

MHM
Nov. 8, 2010, 11:23 PM
Thanks for posting the videos!

It's always fun to compare and contrast on replays. :)

cabinessence
Nov. 8, 2010, 11:50 PM
Thanks for posting those videos. I saw the first rounds on the live feed but then wasn't home to see the second rounds. After seeing them I am surprised they chose Hayley over Michael. I suppose the flat section is what put her on top, but I actually preferred his rides in both over fences rounds. Of course hers were very good, but his position was much more secure. To me, it seemed her ankle was wiggly over the jumps and she moved her foot to spur her horse every step. Sometimes she was in half seat, sometimes she kind of sat. Michael, on the other hand, was rock solid. No part of his leg ever budged and he stayed in the light following seat with perfect posture the whole time without looking stiff. He had a wonderful elastic feeling with his horse and really kept him between his hand and leg beautifully at all times. They both rode all the technical questions extremely well, his round just seemed very confident and stylish. Then again, perhaps I am just biased because I've been watching him ride since he was doing pony jumpers and even back then he had a great feel and so much natural talent!

I thought he was awesome too, and never heard of him in my life, so totally unbiased! Looking back at these replays of the final round I have to wonder if the decision between 1st and 2nd would've been closer if Michael had taken the other (harder) option at jump 11... the tight turn back to the skinny vertical heading up to the in-and-out... who knows? Obviously it wasn't close enough for the judges to bring the top contenders back in for a final test, but I wonder if that would've made the difference.

Anyway, geez, the kid being only 13 years old (amazing!) I guess he'll have many more opportunities to try for it.

doublesstable
Nov. 9, 2010, 02:26 AM
I think we need to go into business selling Dressage horses to Equitation riders. lol.

I really liked Haleys ride.. (and horse) To make such turns over those large jumps really takes a horse that is up-hill - like a Dressage horse. ;-)

Thanks for posting the videos... very nice!!

theinstigator
Nov. 9, 2010, 07:31 AM
You guys are welcome, I love taking video at shows, even though I'm not the best at it LOL (sorry for the shaky moments!)

Apparently the upload failed on the Catherine's video. I will post more tonight!

BAC
Nov. 9, 2010, 12:26 PM
Thanks for posting those videos, they were great. I loved both riders, either could have won it IMO.

theoldgreymare
Nov. 9, 2010, 01:24 PM
Nice to see a different perspective than the one shown on the live feed. Thanks for posting! Love Michael Hughes...what a talented young man. I think we will see great things from him in the future.

MHM
Nov. 9, 2010, 01:58 PM
Apparently the upload failed on the Catherine's video. I will post more tonight!

I'm new at uploading videos. Is it normal for it to take a r-e-a-l-l-y long time to finish? And fail sometimes anyway?

LearnToFly
Nov. 9, 2010, 02:02 PM
I'm new at uploading videos. Is it normal for it to take a r-e-a-l-l-y long time to finish? And fail sometimes anyway?

What browser are you using? Youtube doesn't always play nicely with Chrome or Opera. Try Firefox or IE.

MHM
Nov. 9, 2010, 02:14 PM
What browser are you using? Youtube doesn't always play nicely with Chrome or Opera. Try Firefox or IE.

Thanks! :)

theinstigator
Nov. 9, 2010, 02:21 PM
I'm new at uploading videos. Is it normal for it to take a r-e-a-l-l-y long time to finish? And fail sometimes anyway?
It does sometimes.

The third video uploaded successfully but has been stuck on "processing" since last night, which is too long so I will reload it.

:)

theinstigator
Nov. 9, 2010, 04:50 PM
Catherine Tyree's round is up (link in first post)

Uploading the next three as we speak :)

mroades
Nov. 9, 2010, 08:03 PM
ok, now having seen the top three, i think they got it right...and my opinion is worth exactly what yall paid for it...lol

lucyeq
Nov. 9, 2010, 08:27 PM
I agree with those who would have picked Michael over Hayley. I think that Michael's round was much more consistent than Hayley's, although hers was also a beautiful round. His back was much flatter than hers and he had a great leg. Either of them deserved it, though! I think that Michael will win it next time.

theinstigator
Nov. 9, 2010, 08:28 PM
Top 8 are posted in the OP. Will try to get a few more up tonight :)

Peggy
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:17 PM
Thanks. That was fun. I was too lazy to sign in to make a comment, but Lucy's horse is named Patrick.

theinstigator
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:22 PM
Thanks. That was fun. I was too lazy to sign in to make a comment, but Lucy's horse is named Patrick.
Thank you! I will change that :)

Tha Ridge
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:24 PM
I agree with those who would have picked Michael over Hayley. I think that Michael's round was much more consistent than Hayley's, although hers was also a beautiful round. His back was much flatter than hers and he had a great leg. Either of them deserved it, though! I think that Michael will win it next time.

You must remember, however, that flat counts 50% in the final judging... Hayley was stronger than Michael on the flat, IMO.

Diva98
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:36 PM
You must remember, however, that flat counts 50% in the final judging... Hayley was stronger than Michael on the flat, IMO.

I actually thought Michael looked great on the flat - as did Hayley. I believe Michael moved up from 4th or 5th to 2nd after the flat phase.

I loved Catherine Tyree's round - she moved up a bunch of places.

What do you guys think moved Lillie down in the standings in her second round? I believe she was called back third ... what do you think moved her down? Just curious ... I thought she put in a lovely round.

amastrike
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:40 PM
I liked Micheal's ride a lot, it was very smooth and comfortable. I forget the other boy's name, he finished 6th, I think? He put in a nice ride on a hot horse.

Tha Ridge
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:46 PM
I liked Micheal's ride a lot, it was very smooth and comfortable. I forget the other boy's name, he finished 6th, I think? He put in a nice ride on a hot horse.

Theodore Boris. The horse is an ex-jumper.

Tha Ridge
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:50 PM
I actually thought Michael looked great on the flat - as did Hayley. I believe Michael moved up from 4th or 5th to 2nd after the flat phase.

I loved Catherine Tyree's round - she moved up a bunch of places.

What do you guys think moved Lillie down in the standings in her second round? I believe she was called back third ... what do you think moved her down? Just curious ... I thought she put in a lovely round.

I thought Michael looked great, but Hayley looked a bit better, IMO. I was in the press conference and heard the judges speak directly about how the thing that really sealed the deal for them re: Hayley being the winner was her ability to stay cool under pressure. This is very, very true—think about how hard it must have been to lay down a trip like that.

From what I remember about Lillie, she was a little bit crooked to the trot jump and had rubs at both 7a and b.

Mayaty02
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:52 PM
I LOVED Taylor Ann Adam's round...gorgeous.

Tha Ridge
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:55 PM
I LOVED Taylor Ann Adam's round...gorgeous.

I did too, but I wasn't at all impressed with her on the flat. I think that's what may have hurt her.

Mayaty02
Nov. 9, 2010, 09:56 PM
I did too, but I wasn't at all impressed with her on the flat. I think that's what may have hurt her.

Interesting, I missed the flat phase...what placing was she called back at?

Tha Ridge
Nov. 9, 2010, 10:01 PM
Interesting, I missed the flat phase...what placing was she called back at?

She was called back in 1st after the first over fences but then was bumped down to 4th after the flat.

Mayaty02
Nov. 9, 2010, 10:04 PM
She was called back in 1st after the first over fences but then was bumped down to 4th after the flat.

wow!

Freebird!
Nov. 9, 2010, 10:08 PM
Hey - you should send in your videos to Judge My Ride on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Judge-My-Ride/152079674754

MHM
Nov. 9, 2010, 10:18 PM
What do you guys think moved Lillie down in the standings in her second round? I believe she was called back third ... what do you think moved her down? Just curious ... I thought she put in a lovely round.

I was really surprised she was moved down. I thought she had a lovely, smooth trip. If anything, I thought she might move up.

The top 4-5 had very good second rounds, though.

RumorHasIt301
Nov. 9, 2010, 10:28 PM
I also loved Taylor Ann Adam's round, though I did not see the flat. I think that Hayley rode really well and deserved to win. I do think that it is weird that Schaefer Raposa got seventh and had a late change?
*Edit*
I thought that Sam Schafer's round was really nice until her horse stopped. I liked how forward yet smooth it was.

MHM
Nov. 9, 2010, 10:34 PM
I do think that it is weird that Schaefer Raposa got seventh and had a late change?

I think without the late change she could have been third or fourth. So I'm sure they counted it, but chose not to kill her for it.

chloelovesyou1
Nov. 9, 2010, 11:15 PM
I found some more as well:
http://www.youtube.com/user/weezeriffc
This person has basically most of the top 25 riders up,
http://www.youtube.com/user/weezeriffc
just type in Maclay Finals 2010 in the search box at right and they should come up!

Mac123
Nov. 9, 2010, 11:40 PM
This perhaps deserves its own thread, but this video is a fascinating comparison between the oft harkened-to yesteryear of the Equitation and the modern equitation division.

1982 ASPCA Maclay Finals, Peter Wylde, winner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zjlZie0UDM&feature=related

MHM
Nov. 10, 2010, 01:07 AM
1982 ASPCA Maclay Finals, Peter Wylde, winner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zjlZie0UDM&feature=related

O.M.G. That was G-R-R-R-E-A-T!!!!

The Garden. The Statler. Victor, the voice of the Garden. The rust breeches. The white number strings. That tiny schooling ring with all the posts. The single flat phase.

The only thing they forgot to include was the 5 story ramp you had to navigate with all your equipment.

I was there watching that day, and in my (much younger, less experienced) eyes, Peter was the absolute winner, hands down.

Also there showing that day- the dad of one of the riders who got a ribbon at the Maclay this past Sunday. ;)

Thanks so much for posting it!!! :cool::cool::cool:

And yes, I think it's certainly worthy of a new thread. :yes:

Roxy SM
Nov. 10, 2010, 02:24 AM
I thought Michael looked great, but Hayley looked a bit better, IMO. I was in the press conference and heard the judges speak directly about how the thing that really sealed the deal for them re: Hayley being the winner was her ability to stay cool under pressure. This is very, very true—think about how hard it must have been to lay down a trip like that.

From what I remember about Lillie, she was a little bit crooked to the trot jump and had rubs at both 7a and b.

Interesting explanation from the judges. Michael looked completely confident under the pressure to me, he has that ice in his veins that is such a great asset for a rider. He looked more solid capable to me in every way, but I guess it looked different live.

wanderlust
Nov. 10, 2010, 03:32 AM
I'm a little perplexed by the placings. Hayley twice moved her horse up to a very deep distance (one was the skinny wall headed toward the arena wall, don't remember the other one) where she would have been fine if she just waited it out, and she didn't ride the 4 stride after the trot fence evenly. She was much less consistent, IMO, than anyone else in the top 5.

Michael Hughes was lovely, but rode all of his fences to a very deep distance. A little too controlled, IMO. Would have liked to see him ride more forward.

I thought Taylor Ann Adams should have had it, hands down, but I didn't see the flat. Catherine's round was lovely as well. They both were flowing, soft and gorgeous.

theinstigator
Nov. 10, 2010, 07:28 AM
Hmmmm so we have a bit of a mystery. I received a PM that the video I thought was Amber Henter was not her. Can anyone tell me who this is in the Mystery Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXfxxx7I9A)? When I transferred the videos from my camera the rounds loaded out of order, so I was doing a bit of guesswork based off of the top 18. This rider's back number is 53....but of course on shownet.biz none of the back numbers are actually listed there.

Does anyone know who that is? My other guess out of the top 18 is Emily Reynolds, but I don't know for sure. Thanks! :)

Mayaty02
Nov. 10, 2010, 08:15 AM
Hmmmm so we have a bit of a mystery. I received a PM that the video I thought was Amber Henter was not her. Can anyone tell me who this is in the Mystery Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXfxxx7I9A)? When I transferred the videos from my camera the rounds loaded out of order, so I was doing a bit of guesswork based off of the top 18. This rider's back number is 53....but of course on shownet.biz none of the back numbers are actually listed there.

Does anyone know who that is? My other guess out of the top 18 is Emily Reynolds, but I don't know for sure. Thanks! :)

interesting because if its not her that woudl explain something to me. I didn't like that round at all (the one in the video) and you all are saying Amber moved up huge after that round...which didn't make sense to me.

KnickerB
Nov. 10, 2010, 09:40 AM
Hmmmm so we have a bit of a mystery. I received a PM that the video I thought was Amber Henter was not her. Can anyone tell me who this is in the Mystery Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXfxxx7I9A)? When I transferred the videos from my camera the rounds loaded out of order, so I was doing a bit of guesswork based off of the top 18. This rider's back number is 53....but of course on shownet.biz none of the back numbers are actually listed there.

Does anyone know who that is? My other guess out of the top 18 is Emily Reynolds, but I don't know for sure. Thanks! :)

53 was Emily Reynolds.

theinstigator
Nov. 10, 2010, 10:36 AM
53 was Emily Reynolds.
Thank you!

cabinessence
Nov. 10, 2010, 10:39 AM
Michael Hughes was lovely, but rode all of his fences to a very deep distance. A little too controlled, IMO. Would have liked to see him ride more forward.


I really liked that aspect of his ride, actually. Like where everyone else had to make their horse FLY down that first line in four strides, and you could see it, he made it look totally natural. That stood out to me.

Love rewatching these rounds from a different angle! Thanks for posting them! Love how Lucy Davis gets her horse to practically land at the trot after that oxer going to the trot jump.

mustangsal85
Nov. 11, 2010, 12:39 AM
I apologize if this has already been asked, but are there any videos of the flat phase? Or is that not allowed?

Bethe Mounce
Nov. 11, 2010, 12:58 AM
Thanks so much....I have just become a huge Michael Hughes fan! I so loved his effective riding, he was so solid. I loved he was out of the saddle! Didn't see any of the flat work so I guess that is where Hayley excelled and why she won. I just really liked that young man! I would be willing to bet he is a grounded regular guy....I do hope the George knows about him. ;-)

nature
Nov. 11, 2010, 08:47 AM
I have started to upload my videos from the Maclay finals this year. I will be uploading the rest of the top 18, as well as the videos from the Sporthorse Cup throughout the week as I have time :)

Enjoy!

Hayley Barnhill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um4DJZ5jEI0)

Michael Hughes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7N5t3qL8Y)

Catherine Tyree (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCAPpp1QhNM)

Taylor Ann Adams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWmr7Nijvus)

Lillie Keenan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI02t-qJWBc)

Theodore Boris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLtiPhheD44)

Schaefer Raposa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOF25ptlwuo)

Lucy Davis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7TxYrkz7N0)

Emily Reynolds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXfxxx7I9A)

Sydney Smith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdsW1E180Q8)

Demi Stiegler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBtjhZD_Mf4)

Interesting comparison, horses, tack, courses, riding.....
1982

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zjlZie0UDM&feature=related

1984

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbX16dX8880&feature=related

1989

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLKQd7LBQJU&feature=related

Mayaty02
Nov. 11, 2010, 08:57 AM
Interesting comparison, horses, tack, courses, riding.....
1982

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zjlZie0UDM&feature=related

1984

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbX16dX8880&feature=related

1989

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLKQd7LBQJU&feature=related


You're good at digging these up! find more from the mid-late 80s please :) I have a crappy quality video of me but I'm not sharing :cool:

theinstigator
Nov. 11, 2010, 11:13 AM
I apologize if this has already been asked, but are there any videos of the flat phase? Or is that not allowed?
We didn't get there early enough to watch the flat phase, so I don't have any. I'm sure it's out there somewhere, though!

Dakotawyatt
Nov. 11, 2010, 08:54 PM
Great thread! LOTS of changes from the 80's, haha. Is it the latest eq thing to land the leads? I love how smooth the rounds were.

doublesstable
Nov. 11, 2010, 11:29 PM
53 was Emily Reynolds.

That is the gal off course @ Fence # 12.

Edited to ?? Emily and Michael jumped the far 12th fence, all others jumped the near 12th fence... anyone know what gives?

Also I like Taylor Ann ride too very smooth, but if you watch Hayleys relases I think are better... and better than Michales... great riders and we are definately splitting hairs.

MHM
Nov. 12, 2010, 01:56 AM
That is the gal off course @ Fence # 12.

Edited to ?? Emily and Michael jumped the far 12th fence, all others jumped the near 12th fence... anyone know what gives?

The head of the last line was an option- they could jump either side.

chloelovesyou1
Nov. 12, 2010, 01:57 AM
That is the gal off course @ Fence # 12.

Edited to ?? Emily and Michael jumped the far 12th fence, all others jumped the near 12th fence... anyone know what gives?

Also I like Taylor Ann ride too very smooth, but if you watch Hayleys relases I think are better... and better than Michales... great riders and we are definately splitting hairs.

Emily, Michael and Karen Polle jumped the far fence, as it was an option.
The other option was after the skinny wall to the bending double to do up and 3 to 1 or out in 4 to 2. Karen only one to do the 4 - 2 intentionally (Chase by accident). Course chart said judges would judge it the same...

MHM
Nov. 12, 2010, 02:02 AM
Karen only one to do the 4 - 2 intentionally (Chase by accident). Course chart said judges would judge it the same...

I believe Audrey Coulter also did the 4/2 option.

doublesstable
Nov. 12, 2010, 02:14 AM
The head of the last line was an option- they could jump either side.


I thought I was crazy... thanks!!

I went "ugg" when I watched all the courses then watched Emily - thought all that way to get where she was - - and off course :lol: - I had no idea there was an option.. :lol:

kaluha2
Nov. 12, 2010, 04:48 AM
Thanks you so much for posting the vids from the 80's. It was very good to see these riders and horses again.

Roo
Nov. 12, 2010, 07:03 PM
I just read the Chronicle's October 22nd article on the WEG. I was struck by Melanie Smith Taylor's comments and how they put the Maclay judging into an even broader context about riding under pressure:

"...It looked to me like they (the US team) just didn't handle the pressure well, and nerves became very much a big part of their downfall," She (Melanie Smith Taylor) said.

And in regard to Abdullah Al Sharbatly's round on his own horse in the final four, she said, "I think the pressure got to him. It's a lot easier to not feel pressure when you're an underdog, when people don't have expectations of you."

Given her impressions of the WEG riders it's easier to understand why she and Scott Hofstetter rewarded Hayley Barnhill for her composure. The big eq is supposed to be a stepping stone for high level jumpers where the mental part of riding becomes even more critical.

Interesting food for thought.

Tha Ridge
Nov. 12, 2010, 07:47 PM
I just read the Chronicle's October 22nd article on the WEG. I was struck by Melanie Smith Taylor's comments and how they put the Maclay judging into an even broader context about riding under pressure:

"...It looked to me like they (the US team) just didn't handle the pressure well, and nerves became very much a big part of their downfall," She (Melanie Smith Taylor) said.

And in regard to Abdullah Al Sharbatly's round on his own horse in the final four, she said, "I think the pressure got to him. It's a lot easier to not feel pressure when you're an underdog, when people don't have expectations of you."

Given her impressions of the WEG riders it's easier to understand why she and Scott Hofstetter rewarded Hayley Barnhill for her composure. The big eq is supposed to be a stepping stone for high level jumpers where the mental part of riding becomes even more critical.

Interesting food for thought.

Very interesting, and I absolutely agree. We need to reward the riders who can lay down trip after trip in a row, not the riders who look like they have a 2x4" nailed across their shoulders. Unfortunately, I feel like some posters here prefer the latter. :no: