View Full Version : AEC Check-In! (Update: Pictures - pg.11)

Sep. 4, 2004, 11:46 AM
Yes, I know that the AECS are still over a week away, but I am already getting very excited! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif In fact, I spent the whole morning packing the trailer. My husband just stared at me quizzically and mentioned that I wasn't leaving until the FOLLOWING Monday. All I could say was, "I can't help myself!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

So, let's have a check-in of who's going (whether you're competing or spectating). I will know absolutely no one down there (except my virtual COTH buddies) and I hope to meet some of you!

I'll be taking my laptop with me (to keep up with work - my boss is already freaking out that I'll be out of the office a whole week - it's nice to feel so needed http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), so hopefully, I can keep everyone updated on how the AECs are going).

I also compiled a very comprehensive packing list which I'm more than willing to email to anyone who would like a copy. I'm famous for my list making! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif You can email me at ksoldavin@comcast.net.

8 days and counting until we leave...

Sep. 4, 2004, 11:46 AM
Yes, I know that the AECS are still over a week away, but I am already getting very excited! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif In fact, I spent the whole morning packing the trailer. My husband just stared at me quizzically and mentioned that I wasn't leaving until the FOLLOWING Monday. All I could say was, "I can't help myself!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

So, let's have a check-in of who's going (whether you're competing or spectating). I will know absolutely no one down there (except my virtual COTH buddies) and I hope to meet some of you!

I'll be taking my laptop with me (to keep up with work - my boss is already freaking out that I'll be out of the office a whole week - it's nice to feel so needed http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), so hopefully, I can keep everyone updated on how the AECs are going).

I also compiled a very comprehensive packing list which I'm more than willing to email to anyone who would like a copy. I'm famous for my list making! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif You can email me at ksoldavin@comcast.net.

8 days and counting until we leave...

Robby Johnson
Sep. 4, 2004, 12:22 PM
I am going, taking a horse, but not competing.

I actually spent this morning plotting out an "org chart" as I actually have to travel for business next Weds-Thurs. As Rhodey is only going for lessons, etc., I've gotten lucky and am taking a real minimalist approach.

See everyone there!


Dale Area 1
Sep. 4, 2004, 05:16 PM
I going also, helping a friend who is borrowing my trailer. Started pulling maps today, still trying to decide if we should drive right through or stop in VA overnight http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Looking forward to this event, should be great!

Sep. 4, 2004, 08:11 PM
It's only a WEEK AWAY! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Seriously, though, it does seem to be coming up fast. I did unpack my mud-encrusted stuff from Richland today http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif and the trailer has been pared down gear-wise to accomodate TWO riders and two horses next week.

New shoes for Gwen Tuesday, a fairly easy, happy work week for her so hopefully she'll be nice and fresh and happy to get on with that LONG trailer trip next week.

Sep. 4, 2004, 08:13 PM
We are pretty much loaded and ready to go. We will be packing along a cat with a broken leg. She had to have surgery yesterday and needs to be confined for at least 6 weeks. What could be more confining that three people and a barn cat in a horse trailer for 6 weeks. Oh well !!

Sep. 5, 2004, 02:56 AM
We're going down this Thursday to do Pinehurst and then stay over for the AEC. I'm already starting to mental about all of the things that need to be done before we leave and had my first "stress dream" about it last night (you know, the one where you are fifteen minutes away from your dressage ride and you can't find your clothes, tack, horse, etc.). http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Anyway, I'm so looking forward to seeing everyone and actually getting to the AEC. It's been a long and winding road since they were first announced, and it is going to be wonderful to finally get to experience the fruits of so many peoples labor. We will be staying on grounds in a RV, so swing on by and have a glass of wine with us. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Sep. 5, 2004, 09:29 AM
Good luck to everyone going to the AEC! I posted on another thread about meeting up there, since I only live a 1/2 hour away, but apparently no one wants to meet me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif since no one responded!

If I know who you are, I'll be sure to cheer you on!

Sep. 5, 2004, 11:12 AM
Ozzy and I are going! We're leaving on Wednesday morning... that is if what ever made my truck blow up yesterday is fixed http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I just put a new transmission in the damn thing and it chooses NOW to get all smokey-stinky on me.

Canterlope my princess, Will you e-mail me? I have no idea what's the best way to get down there and would love the advice of you and the fabulous Mr. Lope. You can reach me at lgdehart (at) radford (dot) edu. Thanks Huge!


Sep. 5, 2004, 11:24 AM
So shall we try to plan a rendevous? Perhaps at the Welcome Party on Thursday evening? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm jingling that everyone has a safe trip there! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Sep. 5, 2004, 12:48 PM
What if everyone put a big "COTH" sign on their stall? That way anyone who wandered through could spot fellow BB-ers. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Sep. 5, 2004, 02:53 PM
big grey man and I are going, driving that Thursday

tomorrow the truck gets new brakes ($$) and a check up.

At KY Classic this weekend I was making lists of everything to clean, pack etc.

Sep. 5, 2004, 03:51 PM
I'm so excited, next Tuesday will be the slowed school day in the history of all time. We're either leaving after school on Tuesday or Wed. morning. I get to miss three days of school for horses, and parties, oh yeah! (don't say anything about the load of make-up work I will have.)

Sep. 5, 2004, 06:12 PM
OOH could you post the list? I haev the one from eventing usa which is good, but lists are a wonderful thing. a very wonderful thing indeed... Or e-mail it to gracetw22@hotmail.com

Sep. 5, 2004, 06:13 PM
ok, to be on topic, I am not going this year. My dad and I might drive down there just to check it out. That is if we can fins somewhere cheap to stay. ANyoen know of a ritz nearby (we have a timeshare with them, so we get hotel rooms at a ritz for next to nothing)

Sep. 5, 2004, 06:37 PM
Hi Grace - I emailed you the list! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'll post a big 'ole COTH sign on my stall door! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Sep. 5, 2004, 08:51 PM
Ohhhh Kelly, could you email me the list too? FlyACK1@aol.com

OK, now I'm nervous, I just got back from my baby greenie's first ever HT and am in NO way close to being packed! The truck gets a new clutch this Tuesday and the trailer is getting a once over tomorrow, then I'm packing Thursday, picking up a horse Friday and we are on our way East Saturday morning baby!!!

I'll add a COTH sign to my door too! You won't be able to miss my pony, big, white, and obnixious LOL.

Boy, is it sad I'm looking forward to a 32+ hour drive cross country with my dog? I can't wait!

Boss Hoss
Sep. 5, 2004, 09:41 PM
Is there some place I can go and school some XC jumps on Wed next week near CHP? If I come down on Tuesday, I'll do a light hack that evening and then on Wed I'd like to pop around some terrain down there with fences since its so hard around here to school, and then compete on Thursday in dressage, etc.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>had my first "stress dream" about it last night (you know, the one where you are fifteen minutes away from your dressage ride and you can't find your clothes, tack, horse, etc.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mine are worse..I'm actually riding without my clothes in my "stress dreams".

Sep. 6, 2004, 05:20 AM
Ishi - Done! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 6, 2004, 06:22 AM
Boss Hoss - Cross Winds Horse Center is just 5 miles from the Horse Park and we have many cross country jumps, here. Mostly BN and Novice, but very good galloping courses. We also have plenty of stalls and turn-out if anyone needs "real stalls"!! You can reach me by phone - 910-281-5220 or crosswindshorses@yahoo.com to set up schooling.

Dale Area 1
Sep. 6, 2004, 01:32 PM
I am finally looking forward to this trip! Got the trailer all set, working on a stall in W VA for one night, then to AEC. It is going to be great to see other COTH BBs.

Just to make sure I got it right, we are putting cards on our stalls with COTH and our name? Example: COTH Dale Area 1.

Hopefully we will see each other. I will be working the media tent with Robbie J and Amy from USEA. Also I am the POC for the hometown News Release program - Thanks Robby http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I will do my best to get the word out to press http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sep. 6, 2004, 04:54 PM
I'll be in the show office from Thurs-Sun, and my mom's working the VIP tent. I drove through SoPi today and it was raining, but not too warm--Ivan's right behind Frances, so bring your rain coats!

Sep. 7, 2004, 04:19 AM
Hey guys!! Can't believe it is almost time!! It looks like my training will be coming to an abrupt halt this week as we are slated to receive up to 4 inches of rain thanks to Frances. No looking forward to that and have to say I am a little paranoid to have to leave my horse up since we dealt with a tye-up earlier this summer. I just hope the weather looks good for next week, although Ivan is lurking in the background. I am going to pray hard to the weather Gods that he somehow dissapears. Hope that everyone has a safe trip and again if anyone needs a stop over, we are right off I-81 in Bristol TN (about 5 hours from CHP).

Sep. 7, 2004, 06:55 AM
Sorry to butt in, But Good luck to you all!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I asked this on another thread, but never recieved an answer. What were the qualifications to be in this event?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Robby Johnson
Sep. 7, 2004, 07:19 AM
Sannois, it's in the Omnibus, at www.useventing.com (http://www.useventing.com) and www.carolinahorsepark.com; (http://www.carolinahorsepark.com;) the answer to your question - 1-3 at any event!


Boss Hoss
Sep. 7, 2004, 07:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I asked this on another thread, but never recieved an answer. What were the qualifications to be in this event?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found a copy on the Area II website through past news..not on AEC anymore, but probably should still be (Robby, I didn't see it anywhere in the Omnibus, it mentioned a separate spec, the file I linked to probably).


Robby Johnson
Sep. 7, 2004, 08:02 AM
www.useventing.com (http://www.useventing.com)

Click on "AEC" logo, then scroll down.

"AEC Qualification Criteria" is listed there.


Boss Hoss
Sep. 7, 2004, 09:45 AM
I would suspect the quals would still be on the AEC website. Here is the direct link Robby is pointing to:

Sep. 8, 2004, 06:38 AM
OK, how about a weather report from NC?

We've got our overnight "stall and breakfast" set in WV, maps are printed and memorized (compulsive driver here) and MOST of the "stuff" is clean and/or packed and/or ready to BE packed.

Just double-checking and emphasizing that we're all going to put a "COTH" on our stalls somewhere, yes?

Sep. 8, 2004, 06:42 AM
Good luck to everyone!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I wish I could go to watch, so please update this board.

It sounds like it's going to be SO much fun. Everybody have a great time! Can't wait to hear reports. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sep. 8, 2004, 07:25 AM
we'll be arriving on Thursday - probably too late for the party.

Since I is running last on both Saturday and Sunday, we're hoping that our Friday ride will at least be late morning. (it would be nice if Jo could catch at least some of her Thursday classes).

Looks like there are about 40 riders in intermediate - mostly in the CH division, with a few sprinkled among the AM, H, and YR divisions.

I'd love a COTH entry list - then if I can get my computer hook-up working from the hotel I could post overnight updates.

Boss Hoss
Sep. 8, 2004, 07:36 AM
I'll have my powerbook with me (I have to work while not riding), but to get a live connection from CHP I'd need a Bluetooth cell phone and those things are just too expensive and come with a 2 yr contract just to "try".

Wasn't there a WiFi setup last year so if you had your {insert electronic gadget here} you could get the standings from the website live..or so I thought.

Dale Area 1
Sep. 8, 2004, 09:28 AM
Anyone know how the weather is? Frances dumped a lot of rain and now they are forcasting Ivan http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

The current track on noaa.org, shows the possibility of FL on Sunday and then the same path as Frances, which means torrential rain during the week.

God, I hope they are wrong.

Deltawave, just finished the newspaper list for Michigan for the hometown news releases for AEC http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sep. 8, 2004, 10:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I'd love a COTH entry list - then if I can get my computer hook-up working from the hotel I could post overnight updates. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Gillian and Sportscar are entered (A).

Sep. 8, 2004, 11:01 AM

thanks - I've started my list!

Who else?

Sep. 8, 2004, 11:01 AM
Hi All,

NC is getting a lot of rain today thanks to the remnants of Frances. (I have had the radio on at work today and there have been several Tornado Watches and Warnings throughout the day here in Raleigh.)

Hopefully, it will dry off a little before all of you hit town.

Best of luck!

Boss Hoss
Sep. 8, 2004, 11:09 AM
What I've suggested would be cool for the WiFi age and our sport would be to have something like NASCAR's Nextel TrackPass so everyone could follow along at home LIVE and get up to date leaderboard postings, and have it where riders comments are entered into their area.

We already do enough speculating on a forum which is not real time enough, imagine getting the scoop from the horse's mouth, alomost literally.

call it USEA's Nextel EventPass http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sep. 8, 2004, 03:53 PM
Let's just say that after watching the news tonight, I'm packing ALL my rain gear! Hurricane Ivan is due to hit Florida on Monday...

We are getting drenched today and tomorrow with all the rain from Frances. Let's jingle our curb chains for good weather. However, this could be more like Rolex than we ever planned! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

*In Your Dreams*
Sep. 8, 2004, 04:14 PM
Checking in from Raeford. My horse is kept four minutes from the horse park and I live about twenty minutes away. I just talked to my barn owner and they have had downpours of rain. Not much wind so no damage. I think it will be dry and beautiful by the time the event comes.

I will be volunteering on Sunday as ring crew. Im wearing a name tag that says "Im Andrea and Im from COTH" so come by and say hi! Cant wait to meet everyone.

Watch those rails so I dont have to work. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sep. 8, 2004, 05:17 PM
You can Add Ozzy and i (and our new studs if the weather is supposed to be as bad as you say) to your COTH list.

Although he threw a (front) shoe yesterday (because he hates me...deep down, I mean he has too) and my farrier can't get out till FRIDAY, so keep your fingers crossed.

Rain makes everything else seems easy http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sep. 8, 2004, 05:54 PM
we're driving through the night monday with a nap break (for horse and driver!) in the middle, hopefully get there early afternoon tuesday.

hmmm... random question- anyone in the area know if there is a internet cafe anywhere around the park? Not only for updates on the BB http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, but so i can keep in touch with my professors/on-line homework... Missing 4 day of classes is fun until you have to play catch up http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

i feel very ready for this show after our awesome go this past weekend. I'm so excited! see ya guys down there!

Sep. 9, 2004, 03:59 AM
Will somebody please tell Ivan to GO AWAY, the AEC is IMPORTANT!

Sep. 9, 2004, 04:44 AM
GO AWAY IVAN!! Looks like the current projected path has him on course to potentially really screw things up for us..... Here is praying that he takes a sharp right turn!!

Sep. 9, 2004, 04:53 AM
We're packing up the trailer and RV right now. Hopefully we will be on the road before too long to head down to Southern Pines for the Pinehurst Horse Trials and then the AEC. We're bringing both of "the boyz" to do Novice at Pinehurst, then Gus will be in Open Novice at the AEC and Woody will do Amateur Novice. Pinehurst will be our first time out since Woody and I crashed and burned at Fancy Hill, so no pressure there, eh? Anyway, I am so stoked I can hardly stand it and am looking forward to seeing everybody at the AEC. Being the geek that I am, instead of making a COTH sign for my stalls, I downloaded the COTH Logo and printed it out. It's on a bright yellow card, so you can't miss it.

Painted Wings
Sep. 9, 2004, 05:40 AM

Good luck to you, Gus, and Woody. Give Woody a Carrot for me. We want a full report after the event.

Sep. 9, 2004, 06:28 AM
Read in our local paper this morning that parts of NC had 16 inches of rain yesterday!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I saw photos of Ashville completely underwater. Someone from NC check in and let us know that the park has not become an "underwater park" instead of a horse park!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

With Ivan right on Frances' tail, I think we should vote to have the AEC moved to Michigan!! Weather forecast for the next week is high's in the 70's, lows in the 50's--no rain in sight . . . . http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

Sep. 9, 2004, 07:22 AM
I have been wathcing the weather sites for the area. I looks like they got almost 4 inches of rain yesterday but that was almost all of the rain they have gotten this month so things should have fairly pretty dry to start with.

General trend from here is clearing and mid 80's

Sep. 9, 2004, 07:29 AM
I live a mile from the park and the footing should be good. We are the Sandhills- heavy on the sand, light on the hills. Nothing stays wet for long.

Dale Area 1
Sep. 9, 2004, 07:50 AM
I agree with Slp2.

I am also watching the weather very carefully. Plan to leave on Sunday, overnight in W VA, arrive on Monday afternoon. I sure the footing will be good this weekend and into early next week, but the projected (??) track of Ivan has it hitting FL on Monday sometime, but will it follow Frances and go up the coast for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

I don't want to be stuck on the road or somewhere with horses on a trailer during a hurricane. The timing stinks!

Boss Hoss
Sep. 9, 2004, 10:46 AM
You know we faced a similar timing of a hurricane last year..I remember driving through VA where for 100 miles there was no electricity = no diesel.

Where's your sense of adventure? Manny does better in the rain/mudd..so heck we ought to do fine in a hurricane http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hope the winds are at our tail so we don't have time penalties. I can't wait to see all the unintended water obstacles created.

Michigan? Why heck, why not Wisconsin in December, then we can event Packer Style! Who needs a dome, lets rumble in the mudd and snow!

Sep. 9, 2004, 11:22 AM
I'm writting out lists and trying to remember everything I need to do before Tuesday's departure.

I'm waiting to hear the weather report from a friend who live out there. Will pass it along when I get it. AccuWeather's forecast looks good so far.

Looking forward to see you all there. Safe travels!!!

Sep. 9, 2004, 11:24 AM
Well, I have a big old dumb blood who loves the rain and mud, so I say bring it on Ivan!!! No really, I'm a bit worried I'm leaving Saturday at 6am to head out the NC and will arrive Monday late afternoon. I do not want to drive my big truck and trailer in a hurricane!!!

Dale Area 1
Sep. 9, 2004, 11:27 AM
Boss Hoss,

Good thoughts - bring gas cans http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Hey, I am part of Robby J, commnications committee -- remind me to thank him for that! (kidding) Also I lent my trailer to a friend who is competing, so I am traveling with her.

I am plenty adventurous -- known in the NE as "Danger Kitty Dale" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I just don't want the horses to get blown around and swept away. Once they are safe, I am ready to go.

Look forward to seeing everyone at AEC, I have the $10.00 bright yellow construction rain suit I am going out to buy tonight at the discount store. Anyone want me to pick one up for them? PT me and let me know.

Sep. 9, 2004, 11:33 AM
Or we could add some "new phases" to eventing at the AEC. Synchronized swimming for instance. Of course, finding those sequined bathing caps that fit over our horses ears will be tough. And High Diving could be held at the water complex. Again, finding a proper suit, (that doesn't make my mare's butt look big) will be a challenge. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sep. 9, 2004, 01:11 PM
My horse is 17.2 so I should have an advantage when the water really gets deep!

Ishi: How do you have a mudder in Colorado?

Sep. 9, 2004, 03:14 PM
This year we went twice in the pouring rain, it was so bad at Aspen Ridge I was shaking my head to clear the rain out of my eyes and could see about 15 feet in front of me, but it was a blast! I was the third to last to go before they called us at Abbe Ranch too, but that was more due to lightning then the rain which was just annoying then anything.

I dunno, seems like we've had a ton of rain this summer, but maybe that's because we've been in a drought for so long a normal amount of rain floods my clay based dirt roads and I feel like I need an ark LOL

Sep. 9, 2004, 03:45 PM
On the road again.... just can't wait to be on the road again... 4 days down and one to go. We are in KY and waiting to see what the weather does before continuing on to the AEC. It is beautiful here.

Sep. 9, 2004, 06:20 PM
Well I rode tonight in the rain...figured it would be good practice in case Ivan makes a beeline for NC! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Let's see...how about mud wrestling as a new AEC "phase"? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif Should complement synchronized swimming nicely.

Sep. 9, 2004, 07:20 PM
You guys all have such wonderful attitudes!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hoping that Ivan takes a powder!!! Hope you have blue skies and fair weather, and you all have a wonderful time! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sep. 9, 2004, 07:26 PM
Oh we had leg wrestling in the mud at our camp site one night at Rolex, maybe we could do that at AEC too! No idea who won, the more we drank the harder it got http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I heard that all 6 of us Area IX riders are stabled together, I thought that was kinda cool, I wonder if each area is stabled together?

The only think I'll be pissed about is I finally got a dressage coat and it's on loan, so if Ivan hits I don't think I should wear someone's brand new coat in the rain. Or maybe that's what dry cleaning is for http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I can't wait, I leave in just over 24 hours and I am so excited to get out there, Ivan or no Ivan!!!

Sep. 10, 2004, 06:00 AM
Well, this is actually the second day we've seen the SUN here in Charlotte. Most of the trouble with Asheville is due to some collapsed water mains, although there was some big flooding Northwest of Charltote yesterday.

The nice thing about SoPi is that is the Sandhills. Bring your beach gear, kids. The footing will stay nice no matter what (well, almost no matter what, maybe not a volcano), and there's always a bit of a breeze to dry things out.

This morning was also cooler than it has been (you know, like my bangs didn't frizz out by the time I turned to deadbolt on my apt), so I am hoping for good weather!

Sep. 10, 2004, 12:01 PM
Hi all
Better bring your rain gear and 'cleats' or water skis for x/c! My folks live near the horse park (crosswinds) and said they have gotten close to a foot of rain. The cross country goes through some wet areas anyway, which I imagine are going to be REALLY wet now.

I am heading to S.P. for my high school reunion that weekend, so hope to see some of your (SAFE!!)cross country rides! Boy, COTH t-shirts would come in handy!!

By the way, what day(s) is/are x/c on? No big horse trials or events here nearby, so I have to get my eventing fix while I am home http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sep. 10, 2004, 02:34 PM
latest schedule is at AEC Schedule (http://www.carolinahorsepark.com/aec/aec04/aec04_tentative_schedule.html)

Novice XC Thurs PM & Fri
Training XC Fri
P/A/I XC Sat

Sep. 10, 2004, 03:07 PM
question- i notice on the schedule that packet pick up isn't until wednesday... so does that mean we can't ride at the park before then since we wouldn't have our numbers til then????

Sep. 10, 2004, 04:01 PM
The "horse must wear a number while being ridden or exercised" rule only applies after 3pm the day before the event starts. Prior to that, you don't need a number.

Sep. 10, 2004, 04:11 PM
Oskaar, could you PT me. I need a tel no for you so I can call you when we get too NC.

Dale Area 1
Sep. 10, 2004, 05:11 PM
Finally, I am really excited! I got the muck boots ready, 2 raincoats, maps, hotels, stabling in WV, directions, etc.

I can't wait to meet everyone, should be a blast - Ivan or no Ivan! Woo Hooooooooo

Sep. 10, 2004, 05:44 PM
This is the attitude that got me into eventing. GUNG HO! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So wonderful. Keep the good work up guys! The best of luck to you all!!! Pictures of any interesting XC jumps wouldnt hurt either.... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sep. 11, 2004, 06:23 AM
Monday and Tuesday are going to be the longest days in my educational career. I can't wait to get my neon armband!

Sep. 11, 2004, 06:37 AM
Does anyone know how the event management intends to handle the Ivan threat? How/when might decisions be made about the schedule, the courses and other things (including maybe a raindate or cancellation)?

Anyone have an inside track on what's going on inside their heads right now about this?

Dale Area 1
Sep. 11, 2004, 07:22 AM
I was thinking the same thing. I start my 2 day drive on Sunday, was hoping that if it is cancelled, save me the trip. But I think no decision will be made until the day of the event. That is just my thoughts.

My plan is to drive down, if everything is flooded, turn around and drive home. I don't think I can plan any better.

Have no idea what USEA or Horsepark is planning, hoping someone would update their www site. I know an event in Area 1 is cancelled due to flooding, they posted on the Area 1 WWW site and are calling all riders.

Weather.com is showing heavy rain for Raeford, Thur, Fri, Sat... Oh well http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Nothing I can do.

Sep. 11, 2004, 09:20 AM
I am wondering the same thing. I can't imagine them running a HT in torential rain with high wind that is predicted. We just had Frances and the wind and rain were pretty bad. Ivan is supposed to be in my area Tuesday and Wed which would put me driving in the storm to the AEC which is also not high on my list of things to do, and then to spent 4 days in temp stalls and in my trailer with heavy rain and wind with potential tornados on the northeast quadrant of the storm. I really hope they post some thoughts soon on there website.

Boss Hoss
Sep. 11, 2004, 11:22 AM
instead of hoping, ask them directly..I've asked Gwen for some type of preliminary thinking about the weather issue and she knows I'll let you all know when she responds.

Sep. 11, 2004, 12:36 PM
Thanks, Boss Hoss.

Sep. 11, 2004, 01:48 PM
I am very interested to hear their thoughts on the weather too. I know it must be hard because the storm track prediction is so unsure right now. I at least am within a 5 hour drive so am not leaving until Wed, I certainly feel bad for those that are driving from so far. Definitely am worried about horses in tents with winds and torential rains though. Definitely concerns me about the tornado threat too. Here is praying that the storm goes west (althought I hate it for anyone who ends up in its path especially the poor folks in Florida). I just can't imagine the mess it would create for all of us next weekend.

Boss Hoss
Sep. 11, 2004, 02:47 PM
don't thank me just yet..all I got for now is "Bring your rain gear!"

and maybe a 2ton anchor to teather my horse too if NC is in the NE quadrant of the storm. sure glad I have offsite stabling lined up just in case.

Dale Area 1
Sep. 11, 2004, 02:55 PM
Boss Hoss,

I going to ask a favor of you. I leaving Sunday morning, 2 day drive, but if you hear if it is cancelled, can you please e-mail me. I have a blackberry for work, bringing it with me, so I can get e-mail on the road.

Instead getting there, I can turn around and heard back to New England if it is cancelled. Try to bet the storm.

E-mail address is Ann.Jensis-Dale@dcma.mil


Boss Hoss
Sep. 12, 2004, 08:37 PM
Where are you resting for day 1? You will be pretty close to me I bet if you do. I'm leaving Tuesday so if you get there first, then let me know http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 01:34 AM
We're heading off in a few minutes! It's hard to believe it is already that time. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I feel very relieved as we arranged a stall at Crosswinds in case the weather gets as bad as they are predicting.

Looking forward to meeting everyone! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Robby Johnson
Sep. 13, 2004, 04:11 AM
We arrived in So. Pines yesterday and it's fabulous and warm and great. Crossing our fingers that Ivan isn't an issue. Horses traveled beautifully, fabulous overnight in Knoxville. Of course, Rhodey couldn't figure out backing down the ramp of the trailer yesterday and promptly slipped to his knees coming off. Let's hope he's OK today!

Biggest bummer for me, having looked so foward to hacking in the Foundation - which is directly out the front of the barn where we're stabled - is that it's closed for bow-hunting (deer) today-Wednesday.


Sep. 13, 2004, 05:13 AM
Robbie, welcome to SP! Is the entire foundation closed on both sides of Youngs Road? I am not sure whether they close the entire foundation all at once for this annual event or not. There is plenty of land and trails and jumps etc. on the north side of Youngs Road if it is not all closed. Easily accessed off of Furr Road or from around Denny's. You might check.
Bad timing!
Hope you have a Great time here!

Sep. 13, 2004, 05:21 AM
Don't forget lots of extra warm dry socks !

Have fun guys !!!

Sep. 13, 2004, 11:37 AM
Does anyone know what's up with ride times? Or am I just too asleep to see them?

Sep. 13, 2004, 11:52 AM
I JUST got mine e-mailed to me. Hopefully you'll get yours soon! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif We're driving starting tonight. I'm getting loaded up on caffeine as I type. Double shot iced caramel cappaccino. That should keep me going until about 2 am! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

On another note . . . we just got a memo from our mortgage division. They have immediately cancelled ALL closings scheduled for properties in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina AND North Carolina because of the predicted path of Ivan. That was a little disconcerting! Hope everyone has safe travels--good luck!

Boss Hoss
Sep. 13, 2004, 11:56 AM


Sep. 13, 2004, 12:06 PM
we got the sleepyhead special:
2:45 dressage
1:35 xcountry

too bad we're morning people

Sep. 13, 2004, 12:13 PM
Not us! We have an 8:30 dressage time--ouch! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif That's fine with me, though--get out and get done before the wind starts blowing, LOL! And Gwen is a "morning person", as am I. We won't be getting in until late Wed. pm, so she won't have TIME to get stiff after a 2-day trip!

Just about everyone else I know is riding late morning/early afternoon, so hopefully I can watch and help and take pictures. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

And they're running stadium in reverse order of placing, so we'll get to go home early! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 12:20 PM
DW - a little positive thinking goes a looooong way! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


Sep. 13, 2004, 01:06 PM
Aw, I know that...I'm not really a pessimist, but I do find that self-deprecating humor is the best kind! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif If I laugh at myself, I don't hear the sound of other people laughing at me! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 02:10 PM
I ride Dressage at 2:18 on Thursday and XC at 4:53 on Thursday. So i have Friday off! I'll be able to go and see Rhodey and piddle around. I kinda wanted a ride a day, but having a whole day off will be pretty sweet too. It's too bad I'm unemployed and 100% Brizzoke or I could do some serious shopping http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DW, I'm with you on the theory on self deprecation. It's not a bad way to be! Good luck on your drive down, and you'll have to come and have a cocktail with us http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 02:21 PM
hey guys- i am leaving my home within the next hour (so i won't be able to see any responses after 6:30 or so), but it seems that due to our later-than-planned-departure, the place i was going to pick shavings up from is closed!!!! I figure i will get some when i get down there. are they really expensive at the CHP?? or is there a place near by that sells them for cheap? please let me know! if anyone responds soon, that would be super http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif if not, i'll manage.

o- and lynn, thanks for the response- i knew there had to be some logical reasoning http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 02:52 PM
I imagine shavings will not be cheap at the horse park, but there should be shavings available at Aberdeen Supply in Aberdeen (just off US-1 in Aberdeen)

Sep. 13, 2004, 02:59 PM
thanks a bunch brokenarrow http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif i know the KHP charges an arm and a leg, so i figured the CHP would too. It's nice having the BB to find out stuff from people that know the area! thanks http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 03:39 PM
Folks, I'm sorry for being such a pessimist, but isn't anyone concerned about the weather and the footing? I have always left whether or not Con competes up to his rider, but I msut admit that this time, I may very well pull him out regardless. Now, I've never been to Southern Pines, so I don't know how much rain the footing can take, but I'm really, really worried about this. By Saturday cross country, the rain will have been coming down for FOUR days, including two heavy rain days due to the hurricane.

Is no one discussing cancellation or withdrawl because the site has special footing or something? I know, I'm a worrywort, but it even looks like SP is going to be on that really bad edge of the storm, too. I mean, we know it will loose a lot of strength over land, but if it hits as a category five, how much loss can be expected? Isn't it possible it will still BE a hurricane by the time it reaches NC?

ARgh. I guess I need some reassurance about this.

Sep. 13, 2004, 03:49 PM
No, you aren't the only one worried! I have been watching the weather channel all week and thinking the same thing. The footing is very sandy in that area and can handle a fair amount of rain (although obviously nowhere can handle flooding!) My major concern is the winds that will be accompanying whatever is left of Ivan...and the tent stabling. I am not leaving until Thursday so I am just going to pay attention to the weather channel and talk to people who will be down there already before I make a decision. I am hoping that it will dissipate somewhate before it gets there but who knows? But don't worry you are not the only one who thinks rain gear won't be enough! I would hate to see all the work that the committee and volunteers have put in be for nothing so I am thinking positive thoughts and hoping for the best! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 04:32 PM
We made it! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif And I'm very grateful for my work laptop and Earthlink account as I feel I can stay in touch with the world. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The total trip including stops was about 11 hours. Traveler was very relaxed, but he did look tired by the last time we stopped to gas up (about 1.5 hours out from arrival). The grounds are very quiet as just a handful of people have arrived, but we are lucky to have very nice neighbors right next to us (from Connecticut) as well as across from us (from Utah). I put my COTH sign on my door - we're stall E3 if anyone wants to stop by.

I was a little disappointed that my dressage and xc are on the same day (Thursday - 9:00 am & 3:27 pm), but on the other hand, if this bad weather rolls in, it will be nice to be earlier rather than later.

Looking forward to all the arrivals - it's almost hard to believe that a big competition is going to take place, but I'm sure that within a day or two, it will be a whole 'nother story! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Sep. 13, 2004, 04:32 PM
Well, it's on my mind especially since my traveling partner has decided not to bring her horse. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif She's concerned about the tents, too, and the driving. She's still coming along, but her uneasiness is starting to be contagious! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I know there hasn't been much rain at all in SP for the past several days, and I'm hoping for a little good luck in that department. We go dressage EARLY Thursday and XC on Friday and I'm hoping the worst of it will be over by the time XC starts.

I guess my biggest concern is getting there and then having trouble traveling OUT because of worsening weather. I'm going to still go, though, because I'm an optimist and am hopeful that Ivan will fizzle a LOT by the time it gets past landfall in the US.

And DARN IT, they've scheduled the T-Ch* stadium jumping LAST instead of FIRST, which I was counting on. I want to hit the road with plenty of driving time left on Saturday. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif It's probably too late to switch divisions, yes?

Boss Hoss
Sep. 13, 2004, 04:43 PM
I'm concerned yes..but then I've also arranged offsite stabling for reasons other than the hurricane, but now I'm glad.

I think we're all in this together, organizers and competitors. This is the ROLEX for us LLRs and we need to support the USEA as they have given us this great opportunity.

Like any lesson or competition, you just have to go and see what happens and if they cancel that's life. I feel for everyone who is making this trek to mecca, the show just has to go on.

Sep. 13, 2004, 06:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boss Hoss:

I think we're all in this together, organizers and competitors. This is the ROLEX for us LLRs and we need to support the USEA as they have given us this great opportunity. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto, Boss Hoss, I think it's safe to say that me agreeing with you isn't exactly a daily occurance http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif , but that right there gets the big thumbs up http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ozzy and I are leaving Wednesday morning and we're just gonna take whatever is thrown at us. I have both my rides (D & XC) on Thursday and i'll just hope that Ivan will take my invitation to bugger off and leave us alone. It's the most I can do.

DW, don't let your travelling companion get ya down! I know you've got a long drive, but you can borrow some of my (possibly) blissful ignorance to get you here http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif We're gonna do just FINE!

Sep. 14, 2004, 05:46 AM
I'm not really that concerned about the weather. The path is supposed to hit western NC (more TN border). You can look at a detailed forecast for each day on weather.com, and the wind will be at about 5 mph.

Those of you worried about getting out, the forecast for Sat is light rain, and Sunday should be sunny and clear. The mountains push off the force of the winds, so if you are heading North/West, you'll be fine driving home. The biggest thing to worry about it that when it rains here, it rains HARD. So you'll get to learn the joys of driving really slow.

In non-weather related news, I had a great flat lesson with tuppysmom's husband last night! I wish they could have stayed longer!

Sep. 14, 2004, 06:34 AM
pwynnnorman, CHP should be fine. The soil is extremely sandy and the times I've been there when the weather was really bad, the course drained well and held up.

Also, it looks like the worst of Ivan will be to our west rather than on top of us. Expect rain, but that's about it.

Besides, I need to meet Cass's big brother.

Sep. 14, 2004, 07:03 AM
We haven't decided if we are leaving tomorrow or Thursday yet.

As far as weather, well, I'm worried because I'm going as ground crew, and I frickin' hate standing around in the rain getting soaked when i don't even get to ride. So I think from that aspect it's going to suck (thank god we decided to get a tack room, we never spring for that sort of thing, but we must have had a premonition).

But the footing there can take a tremendous amount of rain--it's deep seated sand with an excellent covering of turf. I've seen it pour there in the spring and be perfect. I'm not saying it's impossible that the footing could be bad, because it's, well, a hurricane, but I certainly wouldn't make that call until the morning of XC--because history would tell you the ground will be good.

See everybody there.

Boss Hoss
Sep. 14, 2004, 07:22 AM
Manny & I are leaving now..watch that stupid hurricane follow me. Its had a line drawn on curving up to MD. Only concern is the leftovers will between CHP and home driving back.

So are we going to have "I survived the AEC" tshirts with hurricane flags blowing when its all over?

Don't start the party without me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sep. 14, 2004, 08:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boss Hoss:
Don't start the party without me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, since Maria and I are on the Party Committee, stick with us and you'll be right on time.

Sep. 14, 2004, 09:52 AM
OK, OK. I'll TRY to stop worrying! Thank goodness for sand, I guess.

But it WILL be interesting to see who forecast this thing the most accurately. For example, I heard that the worse winds will be on the east side of whatever is left of the eye--so if it passes to the west of SP...?

Oh, well. Back to the Weather Channel!

(SO, how IS Cass doin' anyway, joliemom? Y'know, I'm finally riding his little sister now, too...actually, she's bigger than he is.)

Dale Area 1
Sep. 14, 2004, 10:39 AM
Hi Everyone!

We are finally here! Over a 1000 mile, 2 day hour days. I hate arriving at night and trying to find stuff.

Boss Hoss -- sorry I did not get back to you, been on the road, but we stopped in Martiansburg WV, has a friend there. Stayed at the wrong holiday inn express so I might get charged for two rooms. Try to fight that later.

Sign is on my stall -- Barn F

KellyS, I think I am parked next to your trailer, I have the kingston B & W 2 horse tag along.

Staying at the Hilton Home Suites -- FABULOUS! Free breakfast, wine, beer and a light dinner with salad bar. Free internet connections. Room is a suite, with kitchen living room and bedroom. I lovin it!

Also found the Walmart -- very important, since we bought tarps and stakes for the rain.

Come by and say hi!

Dale Area 1
Sep. 14, 2004, 10:42 AM
Just read my post, please excuse the missing words, typos. For the past 3 days, think I had a total of 10 hours sleep. Drinking expresso as we chat.

Sep. 14, 2004, 11:41 AM
Count yourselves lucky! I'm supposed to leave Sunday for New Orleans.... IF it's still there!

Sep. 14, 2004, 11:54 AM
I wanted to 'cheer' for the Michiganders and in general for all the COTHers.
I'm so jealous, I would like to go.

I will jingle for you for the weather.

I also wanted to ask you a big favor.
I sold my mare last year and she is entered in the Training division. It would be great if somebody could go to give her a pat for me. Her Name is Idole de Besse, she is a bay mare with a big blaze and a big French pink nose. I lost the e-mail of her current owner when my computer died a few months ago.

And for all of you who are feeling a little bored with the long drive, think about Idole, she is coming all the way from Washington State. When I owned her, she was not a very good traveller http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif, I guess she is better in trailers now http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Have fun everybody and keep us updated http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Sep. 14, 2004, 12:08 PM
Just to let you know - Cross Winds Horse Center still has plenty of dry, cozy, indoor stalls if anyone gets too soggy. Just 5 miles from the CHP. 100x200 covered arena for turn out, hand walking or riding. Michigan people have already arrived. Boss Hoss next to come in.
Jackie @ CW 910-281-5220

Light rain still falling. Everyone think SUN!!!!

Sep. 14, 2004, 01:53 PM
Hi DA1! If you're parked next to the white sundowner gooseneck that says "Harvest Moon Farm" on the back, then that's me! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I'll come over and say hi tonight.

I met Ishi today - she is stabled right across from me. Her boy Aberdeen is beautiful!

I rode first thing this morning and I'm glad as it has rained from about mid-morning on. The sandy footing is so nice and we had a good time hacking around. Traveler is settling in well and the only hiccup has been that he decided he hated his Equine Senior. However, we stocked up on molasses from the store, and he thinks that makes it much more appetizing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

This afternoon, my mom and I ate lunch at Squire's Pub in Aberdeen (very good!). We also visited Cabin Branch Tack Store in Southern Pines and of course, we're parted with our money. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I was very practical and just got an extra stall guard, tack sponges, and braiding thread.

I hardly know what to do with myself as I'm not used to having so much time before an event, but it is pretty relaxing. I think I'm going to sign up to jump judge on Friday since I have the day off.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the hurricane stays away and the sun comes out!

Dale Area 1
Sep. 14, 2004, 07:00 PM
Hi KellyS,

I think I am parked next to you. Was also out early in the am, finished everything by 9:30am

I be out in the afternoon and all day Thursday, Friday, Saturday & Sunday. I look for you.

Sep. 15, 2004, 10:43 AM
Ok, so for those of you that have allready arrived what is the word on the weather. I am scheduled to drive over Thurs morning from TN. Yesterday I was optimistic that we might be far enough east at the CHP to only feel a small effect of Ivan, but fron watching the weather channel this morning I am getting more and more concerned. I am worried mostly about the potential for tornadoes (and horse living under tents!!). The weather forecast for Aberdeen was changed overnight from a chance (30%) of showers Thurs and Fri to now rain and thunderstorms. Of course we are expecting a foot of rain here in upper East TN, so do I stay and flood or go and risk rain and tornadoes!!

Sep. 15, 2004, 10:48 AM

for a Thursday drive - I would look for the most northern route you can find.

we're driving from about 50 mi east of Atlanta - on Thursday we're expecting 30-40 MPH winds at home, but by Augusta (about further 70 mi east) it should only 8-10 mph. If you believe the weather channel!

so we're keeping our fingers crossed for the loadout, but planning to out-run the winds.

I would not want to be driving from Chattanooga through Atlanta on Thursday...

Sep. 15, 2004, 12:24 PM
Right now it's not too bad in Charlotte. Gloomy, and there's a little chill to the air. Bring a sweater and a sheet for the pony, there's a hint of chill in the air!

I'm heading over after I ride the pony tonight.

Sep. 15, 2004, 06:40 PM
Well, I am jealous of all of you! I am down here in Auburn (southish alabama) and have to sleep on the floor at the vet school tonight. we are supposed to have sustained winds around 80mph all night and most of the day tomorrow. Ofcoarse, I live in a student trailer park right off campus, so I probably won't even have a house next week (fingers crossed)...

GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!! Hope it stays dry enough for you! Keep us all posted. Give me something to read while I'm hulled up in here!

Boss Hoss
Sep. 15, 2004, 08:40 PM
uggh...finally back online, had to change hotels to get internet connection. the WiFi was not up at the horse park today, ahem.

its been fun so far, just meeting different people some know me from COTH some know of me etc. Meeting people all over, even in the bar tonight.

Now I haven't run across Robby yet.

Manny is offsite, so I'll have to run into folks at the competitors dinner etc. Manny could use some company too..if you'all get tired of the rain and tents there's still room. Imagine its like competing from the comfort of home http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now..we should post some photos of the course, if you aren't here you are missing something for sure.

What hurricane?

Sep. 16, 2004, 05:49 AM
Well, I spoke with Christan this morning and she's worried about those tents, too. AND in spite of what others have said, she mentioned that while the tracks' footing is usually fine, regardless of the rain, the take-off and landings on certain jumps can get extremely cuppy. Con's x-c is around 10:30, that's after two hours of rides over those jumps. Anyone know if they're planning to add/improve the footing if things get bad?

Y'know, I have to admit I really, really wish there were some way to understand the organizer's thoughts. Bulletins or something from them would be very reassuring at this point. Is anything posted on site?

Sep. 16, 2004, 07:44 AM
Wynn - they have "course groomers" stationed near the jumps who have all kinds of yard implements to tamp down the footing. My fingers are crossed for you.

BTW, is he running tomorrow or Saturday?

Luvz 2 Jump
Sep. 16, 2004, 09:09 AM
good luck everyone!!! although your all probably there already! haha...
i'll be there saturday volunteering! i'll cheer ya on! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 16, 2004, 09:53 AM
10:30 Saturday. Christan decided NOT to bring him down today, given that the weather is supposed to take a turn for the worse tonight. He's used to the trip, so she'll ship him tomorrow morning, which will give him four or so hours to settle in before his dressage. We're kind of joking about it probably being just a dressage outing for him anyway.

Miss Maddie
Sep. 16, 2004, 10:06 AM
Does anyone know if they'll be posting the scores online as soon as they are available? I think they usually post them after the event is finished.

*In Your Dreams*
Sep. 16, 2004, 01:58 PM
I believe they post them after each day of the competition.

Sep. 16, 2004, 02:21 PM
That's great, but exactly where will they be posting?

*In Your Dreams*
Sep. 17, 2004, 04:45 AM
Here are the results for yesterday.


Sep. 17, 2004, 11:51 AM
How's the weather doing out there? Looks like what's left of Ivan is still passing through.

Sep. 17, 2004, 12:11 PM
My trainer's wife said they had to put a hold on XC this afternoon and evacuate all the horses from the temporary stabling due to the high winds.

Sep. 17, 2004, 12:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Flycatcher:
My trainer's wife said they had to put a hold on XC this afternoon and evacuate all the horses from the temporary stabling due to the high winds. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmm, I expect the high winds had an effect (and not a good one) on Sportscar's dressage test today.

Sep. 17, 2004, 12:21 PM
Yep.....just talked to a friend who is competing and she said it was getting pretty nasty down there. She was getting ready to go xc - had boots and studs in - when they evacuated to the trailers. Wonder if they'll bump some xc rides till Sat or Sunday?

Sep. 17, 2004, 12:42 PM
This shows what Ivan is up to now:

Looks like a yellow and red blob just passed over the horse park!

*In Your Dreams*
Sep. 17, 2004, 01:50 PM
It has been pretty nasty here(20 minutes from 5 points) for 2 hours. It is just now clearing up. Im sure the heavy rain, wind, and tornado warnings didn't help any cross country rounds today. Hope everyone is safe and warm. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Boss Hoss
Sep. 17, 2004, 02:31 PM
The weather holds were NOT that severe. The first one was for lightning that was more towards Bragg and not over the XC course. This hold was right before I went out on course.

When we started back up again, by the time I got back to the tents, we had another hold for terrential downpours, but the winds weren't so bad and there was NOT an evacuation, only a suggestion that we may need to do this.

So after this they started back up again and its been fine since.

Miss Maddie
Sep. 17, 2004, 02:33 PM
Soooooo......how did it go??? What were the courses like? Who is winning?

We have been hearing basically nothing from this high-tech wireless competition.... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

We want news!

Sep. 17, 2004, 02:49 PM
I'm tired and lazy so I'll cut and paste from my TTR post...with the expletives erased of course http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> So, yeah, I should still be at the championships...well, I'm not.

Let me tell you a little story about the way and the where I choose to **** up http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It's a short story... I flew off my trusted steed in mid air over fence three. Yup, that's right. Ozzy was a little spooky coming up to the BIG table and I leaned back and gave him a pop with my crop about 1 stride out...which is when he decided to take off http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif . I Hit the ground going at a good clip and maybe even bounced a little (I'll let you know when I get the video http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif ) That wasn't what did it though, I got back on in record time.

In the water at fence #4, out over the brush, then on to fence #5...Where, obviously a little rattled from my non-emergency dismount, I jumped the training level fence. We jumped it beautifully, however, regardless of form or function, jumping the wrong fence and not fixing it before you jump your next fence get's you invited to leave. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So I'm home, I left this morning to miss the storm. The only really upsetting this is not getting to meet Joliemom and Maria...this saddens me, but the rest of it I'm 100% OK with.

I also realized why I’m not anymore upset about my monumental **** up than I am...I couldn't figure out why until I explained it in an e-mail. It was me, alllllll me. Ozzy was perfect and did everything right and I was riding like a spaz. Spaz is the perfect word too.

They wheeled the course really tight and in order to make the time you had to HOOF it. So Hoof it I did…When I headed out of the start box I felt like I did after my Mt.Dew, Redbull, Double Shot festival. I just let myself get too worked up over making the time and forgot about the important stuff like staying on in mid-air over fences and not jumping the HUGE jump right next to mine. So, lesson well learned, and anytime I can learn a lesson like that without killing myself it’s a good day http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Oh, and Loopy (VTRider), this should make you happy, from what I vaguely remember the announcer said something like this:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Lisa DeHart has had a spill over fence 3, she's getting up, and it seems that she has a huge smile on her face...no wait, I think she's laughing <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll give you the transcript when I get the video. I went up to Palmer and asked if they had a bust your ass special, that I didn't need the whole ride, just about 30 seconds of it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I did get to meet midge which was fun. She walked the BEAUTIFUL course with us. A large time was had by all.

When I left Canterlope was in first in the Novice Am division, with Suzanne lacy tailgating and she was 16t in the championship division. There were so many entries I don't remember anyone else’s standings. I was fortunate enough to be stabled with my love Canterlope, so that made my weekend all worth while. I also got so much quality Robby time that nothing else matters, I assure you http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Y'all do well tomorrow; I'll be cheering for you in my dreams as I sleep in till 9:00 and dream of flying thru the air with the greatest of ease. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sleepy.gif Hitting the ground doing 20mph hurts more than it used to. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Boss Hoss
Sep. 17, 2004, 02:53 PM

I WAS leading (ok, 3 way tie) after dressage with 93 in the divison, but the 2nd water complex bit us bad. Its a shame too, because Manny was going so well and it was such a great ride until then. We were going to make time too, he had a really good canter in warmup and was galloping away.

The 2nd water was on a TIGHT bending line going by the roped off tent with 4 strides to a white inverted boat with 2 strides to a drop into water over a small log. This got a lot of folks, and if this one didn't get them then the first water (steep downhill approach to a brush fence on bank of water) or the Trakehner (very wide open ditch) or Scottish road did. We did these very good.

Ignoring this question, it was the best run he's given me. He was a real pig at the water, maybe it was because of last year's debacle at the same complex..I feel like Dan Jansen?. I was really pleased with him everywhere else on course. Still much improved from this time last year when we would just get over most fences, now most fences are ridden well.

The pace for T-Ch was 470 mpm and you'll see many time penalties. The course was very "influential" in the results.

The course was definitely a championship course. If you rode this clean and under time you deserve to be "crowned" the American Champion. If you weren't here to contend tough, it wasn't a cake walk for sure.

As for Novice..the "SmartPak" fence got a lot of them..it was a simple box coup on a slightly downhill approach. Novice riders seemed to just come hauling ass in and missing the spot and the horses back peddling saying WTF. Many rider falls it seemed.

Oh look..happy hour! Time to go be happy (hiccup)!!

Miss Maddie
Sep. 17, 2004, 03:08 PM
Oh, noooooooo LisaLou! Very sorry to hear that! I have been there, so worried about making time and/or so concerned about difficult fences later on course that I forget to ride what's in front of me. Glad to hear that Ozzy was so good!

Oh, boss hoss, tough break! That really sucks. I can't wait to come see the courses tomorrow...so long as the weather isn't too onerous.

So who all's leading in the T divisions now?

Miss Maddie
Sep. 17, 2004, 03:09 PM
ps I really wish they would post the results online faster, what with it being such an important event....and they're even connected!

Sep. 17, 2004, 03:16 PM
Does anyone know how Gillian's dressage went?

Sep. 17, 2004, 03:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boss Hoss:
As for Novice..the "SmartPak" fence got a lot of them..it was a simple box coup on a slightly downhill approach. Novice riders seemed to just come hauling ass in and missing the spot and the horses back peddling saying WTF. Many rider falls it seemed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup, what he said. and <span class="ev_code_RED">I </span>KNOW better! I'm such a monkey! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sep. 17, 2004, 03:31 PM
I just got a report from my mom and she told me that a lot of people were having problems with the cross country, including my cousin who rode in the jr/yr training division and had two falls at the water complexes. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif she and horse are ok though....i guess thats the way the game goes!!

Sep. 17, 2004, 04:04 PM
Does anyone know how Ishi is doing? She is in N-CH and her horse is Aberdeen. I saw that she was tied for 24th after Dressage, but I was wondering how they did on XC. I'm assuming everything was great, but just curious if she was able to move up any.

Dry Clean Only
Sep. 17, 2004, 04:11 PM
My friend Gabby got around with only time penalties today in the T-CH division. She was tenth or so after dressage and from the sounds of it a no jumping penalty x-c round can move you way up!

I heard that the second water on the Training course got a lot of people.

Robby Johnson
Sep. 17, 2004, 06:14 PM
Lisa, I'm so glad you got home OK. It was crazy here this afternoon with weather, etc. We took Nick back to the private farm and it flooded for 20 minutes. Then the sun came out and I got to ride Rhodey! Crazy!

Mark, I'm sorry I didn't get to see you go. Joliemom, Maria and I watched a little bit of Training, including the 2nd water, and that was definitely Training Olympics! (As was Novice.)

Lisa and I had so much fun. I freakin' love her.

AEC has been fabulous. I cannot wait to watch Big Boys XC tomorrow!


Painted Wings
Sep. 17, 2004, 06:44 PM
Two horses I am interested in:

The wonderful Woodbine and the lovely Canterlope, does anyone know how they did? They were first after XC.

The other I am wondering about is Jill Wagenknecht and Lord Yak aka "Petey". Anyone know how they fared on XC today in the Training championship?

Boss Hoss
Sep. 17, 2004, 08:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Mark, I'm sorry I didn't get to see you go. Joliemom, Maria and I watched a little bit of Training, including the 2nd water, and that was definitely Training Olympics! (As was Novice.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well yes maybe, but the Olympic XC was no where as "influental" as this course was. Training did have the crappiest approach to that water complex. Manny should still have done it, we had the striding right and the canter was compacted, he just said "no".

Toadie's mom
Sep. 17, 2004, 09:40 PM
Darn, I got so excited yesterday with the results on the website, I assumed they would be posting today. Hoping for results of my friend Roxanne Booth, with my ex-horse Marrakech Express. They're in Prelim.

Sep. 18, 2004, 02:48 PM
any updates? Looks like Deltawave had a good x-c go! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Sep. 18, 2004, 03:18 PM
Hey Michigan folks, or anyone else who might know:

1)Sue Moessner (Novice division riding Satin Dust) withdrew after Dressage. Why? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

2)Jeff Kibbie (supposedly Prelim riding Make It Happen) is listed in the ride times but nowhere in the placings. Again...why?

Sep. 18, 2004, 05:28 PM
Just got home from the AEC, whow what a great time (besides a little weather tension yesterday!!) Of course I had to go after the downpoor in the T-Ch. so I felt fortunate to get around with only time faults!

Great weekend though, the courses were so beautiful and well done. Definitely asked many questions for the levels.

Hope everyone else makes it home well and had as good a time!

Sep. 18, 2004, 06:30 PM
I'm a bit confused about the number of Prelim divisions, but the one Con is in didn't seem to have much trouble with the cross country. The top 20 rides are all clustered within two rails of each other with lots of ties, too. Scanning the results, I saw maybe half a dozen or so jumping penalties in the top 35 or so (biiig guestimate, though). Christan said something about a second Prelim division that seems to have a lot more trouble, but I didn't see the score sheet for it.

*In Your Dreams*
Sep. 18, 2004, 07:29 PM
I will be there tommorow as ring crew all day. Hope to see you all there. I will being a white shirt that says all american 10k run. Please come by and say hello.

Toadie's mom
Sep. 18, 2004, 08:07 PM
Don't want to jinx them, but my homebred ex-horse Marrakech Express moved up to 2nd after CC in Prelim. Whooo Hooooo!!!!!!!! Once again I give all the credit to his present owner/jockey Roxanne Booth, but I can't help swelling a little.

Sep. 19, 2004, 06:05 AM
I was SOO proud of my student there this weekend! She had an okay dressage ride in the TCH division, then an awesome double clear go XC! Her stadium ride couldn't have been better... and she moved from 41st after dressage to 15th at the end of the event. I expect you'll see a lot of them in the future... as she is 15 and OTTB is 6. Good job Punk(both COTH name and horse)! Pictures will be posted soon at website below...

www.bankersrunfarm.com (http://www.bankersrunfarm.com)

Sep. 19, 2004, 09:20 AM
well- home finally after the 16 hour drive! That was the longest haul my mare has done, and she handeled it quite well!

first off i want to congratulate everyone and anyone envolved in this event! It was such a superbly run show and to get there is quite an accomplishment in itself!

our weekend, inspite of all that did go wrong, was very fun, very educational and just a great time! Our dressage typical- an awesome warm up and then the test was worse than one would like, giving us a 46.75 and landing us in 25th (i think) in the T-Jr/Yr division. I was all pumped for XC knowing that a fast clean round could really turn things around- and i knew my mare could handle it all- she was so "on" at KY classic and our lessons since have gone wonderfully. I knew I could turn on the speed early in the course to get up on the clock so that was slowing down for the technical questions wouldn't be a problem later. Our warm up for XC was awesome, and we headed out on course in good form- jumping everything quickly and cutting corners wherever we could. She was dead honest today http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif such a nice feeling! Before fence 10- the sunken road- i checked my watch and realized i was 15 seconds up on the time- right where i wanted to be. I brought her back to her "coffin canter" and over the first element of the sunken road she stuck on the landing and nearly stopped dead in her tracks looking at the drop- it jolted me forward and then she ducked left and i went right... onto the ground. *sigh*. pony takes off, i jump up and start running after her- a friend catches her, i get back on, head back to the sunken road- wait til the next rider passes that continue on my merry little way and have the rest of what was the ride of my life. I opted to circle between b and c at the hobbits bank simply because she landed a bit iffy and i saw no need to drag her right when i really had no chance of anything but completling the event now. We finished the course in 10:36. Uh oh, over the time limit! It was very disappointing when I saw the big fat E on the scoreboard after having an awesome round with a little blip of rider error in the middle. Then i remembered (ah ha!) when i waited to restart- they told me i had to wait 30 seconds for the next rider to pass and clear out of the way... that would but be 8 seconds under the time limit if they deducted that. I had been at the jump and ready to go but had to wait my turn to go, and it was a fairly gray area in the rule book. So i went and presented the situation to the TD and she told me she'd let me know by the end of the day what they would do about it.
Well, come 6pm they decided to un-eliminate me, and i get to complete! YAY!
So we rode stadium the next day, and although it was nothing to be admired we made it around with only one rail to top off our score at 275.75 and 22nd place. I was happy to complete though, it was a very good experience. And i can bet you the next time i come to a sunken road i will be leaning as far back as i can!

anyone hear anything about how Kim Severson is doing after her fall?

hope everyone had a good week!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 19, 2004, 09:39 AM
Does anyone know what happened to Gillian? She got 120+ penalties on cross country, which makes me suspect a fall. Unable to reach her on her cell phone.

Sep. 19, 2004, 12:00 PM
She's OK, though, Janet. I ran into her walking the Intermediate course. Got some of her product, too. Sounds like an excellent idea!

Sep. 19, 2004, 01:58 PM
Hey all--we're still here--decided nopt to head out until tomorrow as we had to hang out till the bitter end.

Janet--Gillian had the only double clear in show jumping today! So I'd say she and the mare are fine.

Briefly, we had a pretty good time, though the weather did seriously suck. In general the folks here di the best they could, but I'll admit to being a bit annoyed that they sent everyone back from dressage warmup for a breif spit and gust, but when the heavans litterally opened opened up 30 minutes later we were SOL. I was helping Mr. Heather wrm up and it was seriously raining sidways. I looked as though I had jumped in a lake fully clothed, and poor Mr. heather and his horse were drowning. At every halt the horse tried to wheel and put his butt in to the rain, so it was not exactly a stellar test. But he had two good jumping phases and finished 4th among the amatuers in prelim. So were were psyched (no prizes or money though, LOL). But the footing here was absolutely AMAZING, and all in all we had a pretty good time.

Kims S is bruised but OK. Sorry I missed so many people.

See you tomorrow!

Sep. 19, 2004, 02:16 PM
Say, what happened in stadium in the advanced championships? Gillian was the only one to go clean. What was the course like? How come there were so many difficulties? Four horses in the top six had what looks like THREE rails down (could be some time faults in there, can't tell--they had 12+ penalties, though!). Six in the top ten had 11+ penalties. Same with x-c. Wow, I've rarely seen such results in the jumping phases. Is there someone around who can provide an armchair (or actual) analysis?

And what happened to Kim S?

Robby Johnson
Sep. 19, 2004, 03:29 PM

We are still in So. Pines Sunday night. Call me on my cell if you want to go out for dinner!

In a nutshell, we were packed and on the way home at 10 a.m., got a mile off the farm and the truck died. It's been doing this all week and we had it checked at the shop on Friday. Tested fine. So, we got it re-cranked and decided to go back and stay another day.

Things could be worse folks. The most gorgeous day in NC, and we finally got to go hacking in the Foundation! Things happen for reasons but, quite frankly, I am not fond of the idea of not having the truck thoroughly looked after as breaking down with the horses freaks me out greatly!


Muck r us
Sep. 19, 2004, 04:13 PM
pwynnnorman - Kim S. was injured Saturday in the stable area of all things. She was riding past the end of our barn at a slow walk on the way to stadium. A gray horse was being bathed next to the standpipe at the end of the barn. As Kim passed the gray, Kim's horse reared and Kim fell between her own horse and the rear of the gray. The gray spooked and kicked Kim in the head. It all happened in the blink of an eye. It's hard to say why Kim's horse reared -- I was going about my own business and only saw it out of the corner of my eye. We called the medics, they zipped over from XC and took Kim away in the mini-ambulance. She was wearing a helmet which may have helped. I did hear that someone saw her later in the day walking on the XC course, but that is just second hand info.

Sep. 19, 2004, 04:25 PM
Well, we're home too...17 hours and 930 miles "barn to barn" and I'm WHIPPED! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sleepy.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

We got VERY VERY lucky with the weather...one very strong rain deluge on Friday (about 20 minutes) and an hour of light but steady rain yesterday. It was VERY windy driving up through canterlope country yesterday, but by then it was clear, sunny and blessedly COOL. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gwen had a tough time at the overnight stabling in WV, where their pet llama stuck its head in her stall door and scared her literally witless and she basically stood cowering in the corner of her stall all night. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Poor girl! On the way back they left the llama in but I still don't think she rested much last night. She was so eager to get out of there this morning she about dislocated my shoulder, too. She was ONE HAPPY MARE to see her own pasture again! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Our weekend was a "6"--meaning "satisfactory" if I were a dressage judge. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif She traveled well post-llama and wasn't stiff at all, but was a little keyed up so we galloped Wednesday evening. It was hot and humid, but breezy enough to be tolerable. Dressage warmup early Thursday was initially really good...I was thinking "oh boy, maybe we'll have a test like Richland"...and then some crazy sound behind the trees startled Gwen badly and she is NOT a horse to forgive and forget in dressage warmup, LOL! She was reminded of the Blackhawk helicopters and what I believe were F-111 jets that had swooped overhead the day before, and immediately blew up into a lather. Sigh. We had 5 minutes to go and it takes about 15 to get her back after a "CMM" (chestnut mare moment) so our dressage was simply AWFUL. She was trying, but she couldn't relax and it was just ugly. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug...I was kind of hoping we'd be in last place just to have SOME distinction, but no, only second to last after dressage. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

As Jimmy Wofford says, you're only as good as your last ride, so the 1st at Richland was LONG GONE as we trudged shamefacedly back to the barn. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif My buddies all had decent tests, though, and we had a good day walking the T and P courses (repeatedly) and they were fairly stiff. Training jumps didn't look terribly hard except for a bank combination and the water BH mentioned, but the speed was going to be TOUGH since the course wheeled 100 meters longer than the official distance, and that was AFTER they lengthened it! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif At first it was 180 meters long, and that was 4 or 5 different people wheeling it. Plan? Pedal to the metal, baby! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I actually wanted to ride fast AND accurately, kind of a "test" over this course. Gwen warmed up very bold, the flapping of the paper pinny in the 20 mph wind adding to her "up"ness. What's up with PAPER pinnies, for Pete's sake? She went out bold and fast, and galloped right on down to the first water in great shape. She got a little flat after that and I think I described that part of the course as a "dead runaway" http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif but I did manage to get her back before she left a stride out at 6 and 7. She whacked #8 kind of hard with her feet and that kind of cooled her off--she was much more "listening" as we came to the technical part of the course: skinny, sunken road, trakehner, up-bank, log, turn (12ABC) and then the water Mark described.

She was PERFECT, but I let her down at 12ABC by missing my line and not using my eye to the bending "C" element, so she almost ran past it (good girl that she is, she was looking to keep on galloping STRAIGHT) but she listened when I turned her hard and handily popped over "C". She did the water jump PERFECT...we came past the tent (mercifully not flapping too much) on a counter-canter, but actually I think that helped keep her straight and she saw the question and nailed it...our finest moment on that course! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We galloped to the end and were 12 seconds fast so about 505mpm, which I'm happy about. I wish I'd ridden the middle part of the course better--she was a little too fast--so I know I still have LOTS AND LOTS to work on to be "legitimate" at that speed, but nevertheless I'm proud--we were one of only 12 clean/fast XC trips out of 90+ starters! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif She was hot but cooled off well and felt great yesterday for stadium.

In the interest of brevity I will say she was fine in stadium--she'd pulled so hard at Richland that I insisted she be more in a "package" this time, which resulted in one rail, but all in all I was happier with that round than the clean one at Richland. We had moved up an amazing 48 places after XC, LOL, but weren't anywhere near contention, so it was a nice schooling experience. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My goal was to finish in the top half, and I believe we did manage that. I wish I had done many things better in all 3 phases, but Gwen's a star on XC and my job is to learn to RIDE her. Dressage is and always will be a combination of me learning and her being hot and nervy. So like I said...a "6" overall. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The venue was super, the weather was pretty darn good, considering, and it was great seeing SO MANY COTH faces. Canterlope looked super winning her division, BTW!

Gotta go...my little boy is home and I haven't seen him in 6 days!!! More later...

Sep. 19, 2004, 05:08 PM
Painted Wings&gt; Woody and Canterlope finished first in the Novice Amateur division.

Sep. 19, 2004, 07:06 PM
Here's a nice pic of JDuFort! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Sep. 19, 2004, 07:51 PM
thanks for the link!

we're just getting settled in at home - it was a good weekend, but a disappointing day.

stadium was a bit too influential for our taste http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

Jo and Diamond had an awesome cross country round! After a weird year (broken rider, then broken horse) its good to be back on track...

on to Poplar next weekend.

thanks to the AEC team for a fantastic weekend - we'll be back next year - hopefully with 2 horses.

Sep. 19, 2004, 08:25 PM
Just home after our 15 hour drive! Whew! Should be unpacking but I just had to check in on the BB! We had a fabulous time. We completely lucked out with the weather. There was *some* rain, but it was only torrential for a few hours and it didn't effect the footing at all. And today was lovely without a cloud in the sky for our drive home.

When Mickey87 and I walked the x-c course all we could think was "WOW"!! It was a beautiful course--kind've like a mini-Rolex for us lower level folks. I have only done novice with my girl--but I was thinking of moving up soon. This course was definitely "move up" quality. The trackaner (sp?) alone for novice was impressive--big, deep, ditch with water running through it--and I *knew* my mare had never seen anything like THAT before. There were 2 water jumps and several complexes involving 2-3 jumps/banks, etc. You just don't see enough of that on novice courses. Also--the jumps were big and but consistent throughout--again, a great course design. Anyway--despite my "mental gymnastics" previous to riding the course--my mare was fabulous on x-c. She came out of the start box on fire and just ate up that course. It flowed so well and just built our confidence all the way around. That trackaner? She just flew over it. The x-c course footing was awesome, and it was the most enjoyable and challenging novice course I've ever ridden. What a blast. I was in 4th after x-c in the Novice Ammy division. Anyway--our stadium is always our weak phase, and this weekend was no exception. After 2 rails, we moved down to 7th--but that was ok. We had such a great x-c go it didn't matter. I was very pleased.

Let's see--someone asked about Sue Moessner and Jeff Kibbee. Jeff never brought his horse because he was lame earlier in the week. Sue did dressage and felt that during x-c warm up her horse "wasn't right" behind--so she pulled out before x-c. What a bummer to have to do that--but I give her credit for putting her horse first!

Everything was well run and well organized. Loved Nigel with his color commentary on x-c. He muttered something about my horse (Acapella) "taking a really strong hold to the Duck Pond" and "jumped the table very nicely" and it made me smile while I jumped around my course. I spend WAY too much money at Bit of Britain and with the photographer. Hope everyone had a safe trip home!

Sep. 19, 2004, 09:57 PM
Jeanne...I think that Johanna did wonderful! After what you posted I was afraid to look, but I would be ecstatic with a 6th overall amongst that competition!

Sep. 20, 2004, 04:08 AM
Wow awesome Pic jdufort!! A Skinny Mushroom! Yikes!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Congrats to everyone! sounds like a good time was had by all. Hope you all are going to post more pics!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sep. 20, 2004, 04:36 AM

not only a skinny mushroom - a pair of skinny mushrooms (bounce). If you look, you can just see the first one peeking out on the left.

what they can do amazes me!

Sep. 20, 2004, 06:02 AM
Whew! What a blast! Here are some of my highlights:

--Getting to meet Maria and Joliemom
--Hanging out with Robbie Johnson (and getting to smell him!)
--Running into tons of people I hadn't seen forever
--Cheering on friends from home (including tuppysmom's husband and daughter)
--Meeting Sinead O'Connor's mom (cause I can say I met a celebrity parent)
--Meeting lots of great new people
--Not having enough to do on Friday, and drinking a whole lot, which resulted in being dragged off to Applebees, where Jack LeGoff was blowing his dressage whistle every time someone walked by their table
--Getting fried yesterday while on jump crew
--Getting to see world class competition at every turn
--Coming home with lots of great stories!

Sep. 20, 2004, 08:25 AM
There are pictures on the AEC site- one of Stayner and one of SLP2's horse checking out a golf cart!

Sep. 20, 2004, 08:42 AM
why did Kim Severson withdraw all her horses from the competition?

Sep. 20, 2004, 08:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oskaar:
Whew! What a blast! Here are some of my highlights:

--Getting to meet Maria and Joliemom
--Hanging out with Robbie Johnson (and getting to smell him!)
--Not having enough to do on Friday, and drinking a whole lot, which resulted in being dragged off to Applebees, where Jack LeGoff was blowing his dressage whistle every time someone walked by their table
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Didn't we have a big time or what!

If anyone needs a one woman Outkast imitator ("I'm sorry Miss Jackson...WOOOO...I am for reaaaal!") I'm your woman. Robby's my agent.

And that Mon. Le Goff, he is my new best friend after telling me stories of the Tokyo Olympics. Lawsa, that was a fun night!

Oh and it was great to meet you and your fabulous Carolina Blue pointer boots!

Sep. 20, 2004, 09:16 AM
Kim had a barn accident Saturday morning. She was heading past the wash area on her way to XC, and her horse spooked and reared. She went off, and the horse int he wash area kicked out at her horse, missed, and got her.

Kim went to the hospital by ambulance, had xrays and a CT, and is VERY sore. She was dressed for the Olympic part yesterday, but unmounted. She was a good sport about watching through the day, but she looked miserable.

We did have a ball--and thanks to RObby, I have Beyonce in my head! We left right after Darren and Mark did the tent pole climb--that tells you how early we turned in!

Boss Hoss
Sep. 20, 2004, 09:25 AM
I saw Kim's barn accident, it was a really bad fall. The horse she was on was spooking at something, maybe everything, and he reared straight up and then on his way down made an effort to unseat the rider. She went down onto the ground hard and rolled under the horse being bathed. I didn't see that horse kick, it looked more like impact caused by rolling and hitting the horses legs. They were supporting her head and neck and she left on a stretcher. It was very scary to say the least. Glad she's not seriously hurt.

The natural
Sep. 20, 2004, 09:46 AM
As a North Carolinian, I am glad to hear the positive comments about the Championships. But I have been disappointed to find that as far as I know, there has been absolutely no mention of this event, either before or afterwards in any of the local media. It seems to me that it would do the horse industry in NC some good to have it more widely known that they are hosting an event of this kind.

Sep. 20, 2004, 09:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The natural:
As a North Carolinian, I am glad to hear the positive comments about the Championships. But I have been disappointed to find that as far as I know, there has been absolutely no mention of this event, either before or afterwards in any of the local media. It seems to me that it would do the horse industry in NC some good to have it more widely known that they are hosting an event of this kind. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>FWIW, I saw two news trucks, WRAL and whatever channel 14 is, at the AECs over the weekend. Didn't get a chance to see their coverage, though, but they were there.

Sep. 20, 2004, 09:53 AM
WRAL was down there on Friday.

Hi oskaar!!!!

I also heard the announcer say something about Karen O having on fall on course as I was leaving on Sat. Anyone know what happened and if Karen is ok?

Sep. 20, 2004, 10:01 AM
I don't know why I'm uncomfortable about reporting on my own horse, but since I got a few private emails asking, here's Con's experience.

I, too, had a blast, in spite of my misgivings initially. The course's footing was great. Con flew around effortlessly--Christan says she was the second fastest time on course. It basically confirmed our recognition that he's done with Prelim (he's already placed at Intermediate, but we'd dropped back for the Championships).

We were a little disappointed by the dressage because of some judging inconsistencies. Christan would have had a 35.25 (6th place at the end) if she hadn't gotten 2 penalty points for an error in course. Partly her fault, admittedly, because the previous rider did the same thing, but didn't get penalized so she thought she was wrong and copied him instead of going with what she knew. Then, to add to that, one judge gave her an 8 (with the comment "perfectly square" and one a 4 (commenting "not square") on the halt, while they reversed their scoring on the extended trot: 4 and 8. Now, that's really pretty weird.

We're beginning to think that some folks just won't take a pony seriously in dressage. Something similar happened at Menfelt where the judge wrote something like "excellent" or "extremely well done" but gave him a 5 or something. Nevertheless, they are consistently in the mid-thirties, so that's OK...but it ends up being the difference between a top placing and a just a top 10 (like the championships--he was 10th). Oh, well.

I must also croon a bit about stadium since Con's was only one of five double clears in the division.

And I got to meet Mark Phillips, too! Indeed, I do not believe that anyone with a sense of humor, which he appears to have, could possibly be the ogre some of you guys make him out to be.

Sep. 20, 2004, 10:08 AM

regarding the dressage judges scoring variance - there was a lot of that going around. We though ours was a bit extreme with a 12 point total scoring difference between judges, until we saw a friend's that was much more - basically one judge saw a 30 and one saw a 39 - for net score of 34.5!

Sep. 20, 2004, 10:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Then, to add to that, one judge gave her an 8 (with the comment "perfectly square" and one a 4 (commenting "not square") on the halt, while they reversed their scoring on the extended trot: 4 and 8. Now, that's really pretty weird. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Not surprising a all. What looks "perfectly square" form the front may look "not square" from the side.

And different angles can change the impression of the extended trot.

Sep. 20, 2004, 11:09 AM
Wynne - Maria and I saw Con run xc like he had wings. Lots of people were having trouble at the big table (jump 4 or 5, before the first water), but he sailed over it.

We stayed in that area, but did see him repeat the "fly through" over the sunken road and the trakehner, then up to the water complex. He was amazing!

Sep. 20, 2004, 11:14 AM
Anyone know if any of the photographers that were at AEC have websites? I never did get a chance to look for a picture to get for a souvenir.

Sep. 20, 2004, 11:19 AM

that would be a great explanation except... at least in the I division... both judges were side by side in vans parked about 4 meters apart... neither one had a straight up center line view! It was the strangest placing I've seen.

Sep. 20, 2004, 11:48 AM
Then it IS wierd.

Sep. 20, 2004, 11:53 AM
JDufort: I am only a LLLR (Lowly Lower Level Rider), but I also experienced the same point spread from my two dressage judges (on the same movement) I got an 8 on my halt from one judge, and a 5 from the other. One said, "square" in the comments and the other saw that the hind legs were not perfectly square (the fronts were) I had a few other "8" and "6" moments (one judge gave an 8 and the other a 6 on the same movement). I did think the placement of the two judges was odd also--neither did have a straight on view of the centerline. But overall, it was interesting to get feedback from two separate judges on the same test.

Sep. 20, 2004, 12:01 PM
I had a spread on my collective marks of
6-5-5-6 from one judge and 8-7-7-8 from the other. I have to say it felt more like the 2 sixes and fives, but I am not going to look a gift horse in the mouth!!!

Boss Hoss
Sep. 20, 2004, 01:29 PM
The judging was not done from C-E-B, it was done from C and from each side of the truck at C. Just be gladt they had 3 to balance out any wild hairs they may have had.

"excellent" is like a "9" by word equivalency. I've gotten "wow" next to a "9" before..not sure what a 10 is, maybe "impossible" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dale Area 1
Sep. 20, 2004, 04:44 PM
Hi Everyone,

Still recovering from the 18 hour drive http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sleepy.gif

The AEC was a roller coaster for my friend who competed and I. We had a good trip down, Bugzy (horse) traveled great, was also going great.

Thursday morning, dressage day, we get to the barn to feed, he front left leg is twice it's size, stall trashed, etc. It appears he rolled, cast himself, got caught in the buckets (bent), etc. We were horrified. He jogged out sound, but an hour later, he was dead lame. Had the vet do x-rays, we thought he might have fractured a splint bone (no-thank god), he is out of the AEC. Go to the secretary to scratch, Bonnie Mosser is there and suggest we wait till Friday, maybe he will be sound and we can fill a scratch. We iced and walked him every hour from 7am to 11 that night, and told him no more rolling! The next morning, we get to the barn, he busted out his stall and galloped around the parking lot http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif, He was not lame, still some swelling and heat, but not that bad. Had the vet check again, said he should do dressage, he will watch and make a decision for XC.

We gave it a shot, he was fine for dressage, got 39, so my friend decided to see how he warm up for XC and make that decision. Next to XC during the torando warnings, downpours, if you where at the AEC you know what it was like. He warmed up fine for XC so she ran him, but was not going to use a watch, just go and have fun. He was good, a little tentative, but fine. We called it quits after that.

I wish I would have meet other COTH folks, but it was a crazy week for us. I did see Robby J, KellyS, Lisamarie8. I think I saw Boss Hoss in xc warm up, but I was running from the torando warning http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif We don't have tornados in Boston, only blizzards http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Overall I though it was a great event from what we experienced. Looking forward to going again next year.

Sep. 20, 2004, 05:38 PM
Is there a website where you can submit an on-line event evaluation for the AEC? I used the paper one in my packet for poulticing after XC... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

Sep. 20, 2004, 05:41 PM
OOOO, who were the photographers there? I ordered the "Bust your ass" special from palmer video (just the camera on fence #3) but i would LOVE to see some stills! I know Sport Horse was there, but they don't post stuff online unless you prepay http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sleepy.gif

Was there anyone else who maybe caught my impersonation of a human tiddly-wink?

Boss Hoss
Sep. 20, 2004, 06:11 PM
Isn't the AEC in Area II? Area II website has an online form, and a link to a printable PDF form as well.

Does Palmer Video have a website?

Sep. 21, 2004, 05:17 AM
So, for those of you who DID get to go...I'd like to hear more critiques, good and bad - such as...

*stabling* - was it safe and convenient? How was the parking?

*amenities* - were there permanent bathrooms or port a potties? Did they keep them clean?

*officials/volunteers* - did they help "get you where you needed to be" in a friendly manner?

*programs* - was the information packaged so that you could find what you needed?

*hotels/hookups* - distance from event, were the hookups good or did then (ahem!!) blow fuses like some of them do?

*obviously, dressage rings, stadium, and xc reviews* : footing, decorations, warm up areas, etc.?

Sep. 21, 2004, 06:01 AM
stabling was normal - tents covering temporary stalls - would have liked a bigger overhang with the rain http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Trailer parking was not very far away, considering the number of entrants and that we arrived Thursday night (we had expected to need a shuttle!)

amenities were average - a port a pot at the end of each barn - lines were rare and they were kept clean and stocked with TP. We found only 2 showers (underneath the steeplechase tower) and they were fairly dirty and disheveled.

officials/volunteers - were all friendly and helpful. We had a heart-stopper moment after they posted the dressage scores and noted Jo as riding HC! Of course, they were not posted before we went on our course walk and then we headed straight to the competitors party, so it was after 8pm before we noticed. Rick in the office asked us to come back first thing, and the next morning they allowed that it was just a data entry glitch and re-posted her standing.

footing help up amazingly well considering the rain - the intermediate division ran last in both XC and stadium, so we had the worst of it.

overall, I found it a very appealing event. we have been at events with 1/2 the entries and found ourselves walking greater distances to trailer, rings, bathrooms, office, trade fair, etc. The layout was well thought out to accomodate the number of entrants, the staffing was appropriate, and the hospitality was very good.

Sep. 21, 2004, 06:10 AM
Stabling was OK...I would've liked more overhangs on the tents but they were perfectly adequate for tent stabling. We were in the farthest barn away from the dressage/SJ/trade fair, so it was a little bit of a hike, but not bad. We could park right next to our barn (tent), which was the trade-off of being in the last barn. The walk to the XC course was not bad.

All the toilets that I saw were porta-johns, which were clean and stocked with TP. (unlike the KHP, which always runs out by dressage day, LOL!)

We stayed in Southern Pines, which was about a 25 minute drive. By the time we left we had the directions down, but the first couple of days we were all befuddled! There was NOTHING in the vicinity of the horse park as far as convenience stores, etc.

Footing was fabulous in dressage/SJ...it got a little mucky by the end of Saturday, and you could see where horses had "punched through" in spots in the warmup, but it wasn't slick at all. Maybe a little deep in the clay spots, but that was only in the warmup, which was VAST. The rings themselves were perfect, wet or dry. XC footing for us was great, but we got to go before the one heavy rainstorm.

The XC and stadium jumps were GORGEOUS. I thought the Novice ring was a little plain compared with the other ring; they only had a couple of little walls and mostly rails and gates. The other ring had gargoyles, palms, lots to look at! Very inviting, though, and nothing to freak the horses out.

Sep. 21, 2004, 06:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The natural:
As a North Carolinian, I am glad to hear the positive comments about the Championships. But I have been disappointed to find that as far as I know, there has been absolutely no mention of this event, either before or afterwards in any of the local media. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There was about a 1/4 page article with some good pix in the Sports section of the Sunday edition of the "local" paper at the hotel. I don't recall the name of the paper but I stuck the section in my truck so I'll check it tonight. There was even a small photo on the front page as a teaser to lead you to the article.

Sep. 21, 2004, 06:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deltawave:
Anyone know if any of the photographers that were at AEC have websites? I never did get a chance to look for a picture to get for a souvenir. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

RANT: well unfortunately the AEC used Sport Horse Studio as one of their main still photographers. They never post pictures online and the only way even competitors can see proofs of their final day is to pay $50 for a package. As best I could tell they only had one camera. They have been left behind in the technology world, why do organizers still use them?

Palmer video was also taking stills and I hope they will be up on their website soon: Palmer (http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?storefront?b=1&c=08JQ)

By the way DW congrats again on a great looking XC ride!

Sep. 21, 2004, 06:42 AM
Well, when we first drove into the CHP--our first reaction was, "Oh, it's not exactly Kentucky Horse Park". I think because it was just not as "permanent" looking as KHP. The tent stabling, the dressage judges in vehicles with little tents over them, etc., basically, there was a general look of "temporary" and "moveable" to all the structures. However, once we were riding and competing, I must say that all the necessary amenities were there. The footing for dressage/sj was terrific--including a huge warm up area. The x-c course was beautiful and well designed. The footing for the majority of the course was great. All staff/volunteers did a terrific job. My two biggest criticisms: 1) Lack of horse washstalls (had to wash your horse next to the porta potties--we always worried about giving someone an unexpected "shower" when they exited the porta potty) Plus, those areas started to get very wet by the end of the weekend. 2) No access to rent turnout space for horses for a long competition. We went over to Crosswinds Farm to turn out horses out (which was great) but it would've been convenient on the grounds. One other small criticism would be that you could hear the x-c announcer through the stabling (which was great) but not the sj announcements. That made it hard to figure out when to head over to stadium. Again, I'm not sure how to address that since x-c was running at the same time as stadium.

Let's see, the program--I must say I'm guilty of having not gone through all the papers that I got in my Cosequin bucket yet! The program was fine, but I used my stapled handout which listed the schedule more. The rest of it looked like ad flyers to me. I didn't really go through it all--just found the course map and the schedule.

Sep. 21, 2004, 07:20 AM
ARRRRGH!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif I just spent over an hour typing up my AEC report and my computer ate the whole thing when I hit Post Now. It was a literary masterpiece and I'm just too distraught to write it all again.

However, I would like to say how great it was to meet so many COTH BB members and spend bunches of time with my beloved Lisamarie, Shannon, Robert, and Robby (who shall henceforth be known as R.B.).

Deltawave, I am so sorry I didn't have more time to chat with you. I was a bit distracted due to my upcoming run on cross country and I hope I didn't come off as rude and uncaring as I now feel like I did.

Heather, you looked fabulous, girlfriend, and if you lose any more weight, you are going to blow away.

Ishi, it was an honor and a privilege to stand next to you in the final line-up for ribbons in the Open Novice Championship. Your pony is just too cute for words.

And, to the organizers and all of the volunteers at the AEC, thank you so much for a wonderful event!!! We are already making plans to come back next year with our sights set on Training level.

Miss Maddie
Sep. 21, 2004, 07:23 AM
In the past when I've hit "post now" and somehow the connection to the server gets lost, if I hit Alt + back arrow it will go back to my post and I can submit again. Might be something to try next time. I know I lost a bunch before I figured that out!

Dale Area 1
Sep. 21, 2004, 07:47 AM
We arrived on Monday night, so the horsepark was not realy set up and finished, so it was a little confusing for us.

Stabling - typical tent stalls. What I noticed they stabled everyone by USEA Area. I was stabled in Barn F, so I never really wandered to the other tents.

Footing - held up very well. Warm-up and places to hack in the field was good also. XC was before the heavy downpour, but I did hear from another rider that going after the downpour was rough, she skied to the jumps and WD.

Amenities - OK, port a pot, appeared to be clean everyday. Wished they had a food vendor or a coffee near the barns. They only were set up by Thursday in the Pavillion and Trade Fair, so we made sure we had food and drink everyday.

Trailer Parking - great, right near the barn, but we arrived on Monday, so we got one of the first spots.

Officials/Volunteers -- friendly and did their best. Hard to find the stabling on Monday night, went to the house with hounds chasing us away. Would have greatly appreciated having a set of directions at the board when you check in to stabling, i.e. directions to Walmart, food, hotels, etc. As stated on this post, nothing near the horseepark, the nearest gas station was 20 minutes away. I know, went to get ice often for the pony.

Hotel -- GREAT! stayed at Hilton Homesuites in Pinehurst, about 30 minutes away, found a shortcut a few days later. It would be great if they had something closer to the horsepark, but it seemed in the middle of nothing?

In the beginning it was very confusing for us. The first time we ask for directions to hotel/food, we almost died! "Go down the road a way, for a while, to the jig by the apple tree, make a left, you see a store, make a left, etc." What is a while, 10-20, 30 minutes? It a while. How long, miles? A way. Do you know the names of the road? No I don't know any names, just follow the road a while to the jig.

That was the running joke for us last week, but the directions were good http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif We even found it in the dark.

Overall, they did a good job, there is always going to be little things, but you can't make everyone happy.

Sep. 21, 2004, 10:27 AM
Not at all, canterlope...I totally understand the pre-XC mindset, and even hesitated to say anything for that very reason, but I figured you were still hacking over so I'd say a quick "hi". I definitely leave people alone once they're jumping or whatever, and am never offended by people acting focused. I'm very happy for you, too! Once I dig up my POS-disposable camera and get the pix developed I should have a nice one of you after stadium. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Wish I'd brought the nice 35mm, but was too afraid of rain.

Sep. 21, 2004, 11:23 AM
Checking back in! The rest of last week went by so fast that I didn't even have a chance to post updates from my laptop and of course, it crashed yesterday as I was just downloading email at the office. But, I'm back online again. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I had a wonderful time and I just have to say that it was truly an honor to compete at the AECs! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I had a lot of highs as well as some lows...Traveler and I put in the ride of our life in dressage to score a 26.75 and put us in 2nd in the Novice-CH division. However, amateur me truly screwed up in the xc and I managed to acrue 7.2 time faults. It was so frustrating as we are used to doing 420 m/m at Training and I felt like we were moving at that pace throughout the whole course. I just about had heart failure when we reached the last water and we were almost at the opt. time with three more jumps to go!

Traveler, though, was fabulous and ate up everything like the true xc horse he is! It is truly a pleasure to ride him! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I literally felt like we could have been doing Prelim instead of Novice! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif As I came off xc and headed back to the barns, I tried to keep on a brave face as I knew I had just nixed any chances of having a top placing with the time faults. However, I have to admit that that night at the hotel, the tears just started trickling down as I kept thinking about what an idiot I had been to let that happen. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

We ended up in 11th after xc, and I went into stadium just hoping to leave everything up. We had a great round, and we would have been 9th, but once again, we had a time fault. Just sitting here typing, I am still trying to figure out how I let that happen, but hindsight is 20/20. It is a frustrating feeling to know that everything was so close, yet so far away. For someone who normally always finishes on their dressage score, the nagging feeling of knowing that finishing on our dressage would have won the division is tough to take. I felt like I didn't hold up to my side of the bargain - Traveler was fabulous and well, his rider made enough mistakes to keep him from earning his ribbon. But, as my mom says, he doesn't know that he had time - heck, he's walking around the barn like he won the whole thing anyway! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So, we're off to another Training event in three weeks and were shooting for the Training 3-Day at Mayfest next spring!

What really made the trip special was meeting so many great people - the group around me in stabling was fantastic and we were all best of friends by the end of the week! The parties at night were the best - and I will have to say that I was a little star struck as we rubbed elbows with the Olympic riders! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif My mom and I jump judged on Friday afternoon and we quickly decided we were the luckiest people in the world as we had the Training jump next to the "Distillary" (Int/Adv jump inside a barn)which provided a great cover fro the rain as the skies let lose.

I couldn't believe how fast the week went by, and thankfully we have eight rolls of film to chronicle our journey. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Gosh, there is so much more to talk about, but everyone's got most of it covered. I'll post back if I think of anything else!

Sep. 21, 2004, 02:22 PM
For anyone with facility issues, have a look here: http://www.fivepointshorsepark.com/chp_capital_requirements.html
Theya er planning better stalls and turnouts, so next year we will have some primo accomodations for our horses http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Boss Hoss
Sep. 21, 2004, 03:21 PM
Well the items you are looking for are not yet donated. I was thinking with CoverAll as a sponsor we'd see some of their products donated and we'd be using them, marvelling at this great product of theirs?

I felt sorry for the SubWay vendors..they were the last of the food vendors in line and it seemed most people didn't make it past the first two.

I did have some grape ice cream, yummy!

Sep. 21, 2004, 04:04 PM
Me? I am not looking for anything. I am subtley hinting to donate to the CHP, and to be a lil less upset over the accomodations http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Boss Hoss
Sep. 21, 2004, 04:30 PM
well so was I..CoverAll was a sponsor so I was looking forward to walking into one of their products down there. Maybe they will donate a product for next year?

B Street Tango
Sep. 21, 2004, 07:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by canterlope:
Ishi, it was an honor and a privilege to stand next to you in the final line-up for ribbons in the Open Novice Championship. Your pony is just too cute for words.

Canterlope, I'm Ishi's friend (the one with the black and white Great Dane). I didn't realize who you were when we were talking. I thought it was so nice of you to come over and route with Ishi!

I agree the whole event was fabulous and it was so much fun to cheer everyone on. Maybe with a little luck and a lot of hard work, I can qualify for Novice next year.

Sep. 22, 2004, 07:30 AM
Ellington? My mother would not shut up about him the whole weekend. She thinks he's adorable!

B Street Tango
Sep. 22, 2004, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oskaar:
Ellington? My mother would not shut up about him the whole weekend. She thinks he's adorable! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep! He made quite a few friends. I think half the people there knew his name by the end of the event. Tell your mom, Thanks. I think he's pretty adorable, too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sep. 22, 2004, 11:38 AM
Canterlope is FAMOUS!! Here she is on the USEA site:

Canterlope (http://www.eventingusa.com/news/2004/aec2004/dcmcbroom.htm)

Sep. 22, 2004, 12:59 PM
Wood-y Wood-y Wood-y
He's my hero(and on my team for the ATC's). Can you have a bigger smile Canterlope? aka Farrah Fawcett? I can't call you the Martha Stewart of Eventing anymore because you haven't been to jail.
Or, have you???
Or, yet??? We are the Girls Behaving Badly Team ya know.
From all of these posts, it sounds like a very entertaining and interesting time folks had.
But all looked like it went well and everyone came home with a good experience.

Sep. 22, 2004, 01:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChiVee:
why did Kim Severson withdraw all her horses from the competition? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Finally! I have read this whole thread backwards trying to find out if Kim is OK and it took till page 9, Monday, to find any mention of her accident. Poor girl. She seems to get hurt like I do-stoopit freak accidents unrelated to the actual competition!! Does anyone have a recent update? What a drag. I hope she's mending well.

Sep. 22, 2004, 03:07 PM
Welllll, I finally have access to the COTH again. We had a great time at the AEC. Really enjoyed meeting everyone! We are now at BCHP and what a great place it is to lay over. It will take a few days to get everything dried out, but that's OK. Our first experience with tornadic weather! Hi to Robby and Oskaar.

Sep. 22, 2004, 04:41 PM
Congrats to all who competed over the weekend - I had a chance to watch most of the Novice stadium and it was fabulous. Also, I got a chance to walk the course and was VERY impressed with the size and scope of some of the questions asked - you guys are my heros for completing the XC!

Anyway, I have a small question - was this course average for Novice around here in Area II? I'm looking to move up to Novice next spring, and was totally terrified by the bank-drop-bending line to table combination towards the end of the course - is that typical on a Novice course? How 'bout that trakehner - last time I saw this course, that was simply a ditch? Is the course level of difficulty because it's a championship course, or am I just a weenie? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif If this is typical for Novice, then I've got a loooong ways to go before I'm ready!

Congrats again - what a great job done by all.

Boss Hoss
Sep. 22, 2004, 05:20 PM
You might be a weenie, but...no, the N & T courses at the AEC were NOT the average course you'll see in Area II. SOME of the elements you'll see on different courses, but this was a championship course for these levels. As for the T course, you could consider that a move up to prelim type course for sure. Heck I schooled the prelim course at Difficult Run the weekend before the AEC and it didn't give me any troubles. I thought fairhill's Training course was pretty aggressive as well.

But it only takes one question you aren't prepared for to make any course your worst nightmare. I was so close $5000 i could taste it. oh well..

Sep. 22, 2004, 05:23 PM
I'm probably late on this thread but I have a few comments about the judges that might help. 1st - the placement of the judges is mandated by the eventing rules. When there are more than one judge the placement shall be at the end of the arena, C, M, and/or F. 2nd - The horse park has judges booths, but opted for the tent over the vehicle because of the unpredictable path of Ivan. They didn't want the judges to be sitting out in wind and rain - all wet and miserable and trying to judge as fairly as possible for some of the large divisions. 3rd - Judges have different opinions about the strengths and weaknesses of a dressage performance. They also observe and evaluate the performance from different viewpoints. Both of these lead to differences in scores. It is sometimes amazing that many, many of the scores are very similiar or within 5 or 6 points of each other when totaled.

I once scribed for two "I" judges who were judging the same arena all day. Their scores were similiar for the steady, mostly correct tests. BUT they were 10 or more points apart on the horses who lacked steady engagement carriage. The reason - one judge preferred a horse to be on or slightly in front of the vertical as the rule book used to state; the other thought it was better to be on the vertical or slightly behind as it was apt to be more supple.

Lifelong Horse Lover

Sep. 22, 2004, 05:47 PM
I agree that the Training course was "Preliminary like" in the questions it asked, if not in actual jump dimensions. Added to the questions was the speed at which you had to go to be clean--in this case just about 500mpm given the optimum stated speed of 470mpm plus the fact that the course was really 100m longer than the official distance.

We can do 470 easily, but making time at the AEC was tough--it felt exactly like a Prelim course as a result, which we also seem to do at just over 500mpm since I'm still not 100% comfortable doing jumps at 520 for a whole course.

One thing the "T" course didn't have very much of was long, open stretches where you could make up a ton of time. There were a couple, but they weren't terribly long and they all ended with either a downhill jump, a turning question, etc. so you never could really "let it rip". Combine that with the pace you had to go to make the fences WORK (a crawling 420 mpm on that course would probably have caused a lot of stops) and it was indeed a challenging "T" course. As evidenced by the numer of penalties! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I think a lot of people went pretty fast but still had time because they didn't realize how long the course really was, but there were a whole bunch of REALLY slow rides, stops and "E"s, too, which surprised me given the requisite qualifying that had to be done.

Sep. 23, 2004, 07:04 AM
I know this is a little late but I am just getting back into the sport. Where do I find the info on qualifying for next year?

Boss Hoss
Sep. 23, 2004, 07:43 AM
We may have to wait and see if any changes are made for 2005, but I can also see them remaining the same. Having 80-100 riders in the championship division maybe be "ideal".

2004: 1-5th in your Area Championships, or a 1-3rd finish in a horse trial during the qualifying period.

This could change to be say 2 top 3 placings in a horse trial in 2005. There were many more qualified than actually showed up, so its all a game of statistics.

What % of those qualified for 2004 actually showed up to contend?

Sep. 23, 2004, 11:19 AM
Okay! I finally put together my AEC photo album on Webshots. It is kind of like a virtual course walk of the Novice course and it also has pictures of many of the Training jumps. I had a lot of fun putting this together!

You can click on the link below and go to the "AEC 2004" album. Palmer also has many of the professional proofs posted on their website at Palmer Photos (http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?storefront?b=1&c=08JQ).

This is my favorite picture of Traveler:

Traveler in Show Jumping (http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=08JQ0011000148&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1)

Dale Area 1
Sep. 23, 2004, 11:40 AM

Great photos! Please tell you Mom I said Hi! Had a great time talking to her at the trailer. Traveler looks great -- nice big jump. Dale

Robby Johnson
Sep. 23, 2004, 01:19 PM
Kelly, your pics are fantastic! I hate that I missed you but, as my friend was also in the Novice, I kept looking for myself in the background of your warmup fences! It's amazing how many people were there and how easy it was NOT to see someone!


Sep. 23, 2004, 02:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by canterlope:
Ishi, it was an honor and a privilege to stand next to you in the final line-up for ribbons in the Open Novice Championship. Your pony is just too cute for words. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wowe canterlope, I had no idea that was you!!! That was fun huh? Canterlope and I were tied throughout the whole stinking HT only she was WAY closer to the optimum time XC then me! What a blast that was! I wish we had met yp sooner though!

I got to meet KellyS the first full day we were there and her and her mom were absolutely wonderful! Dale, were you stabled close to Kelly?

Let's see, it took me 36 hours out there and only 33 to get home (got wicked lost in Charlotte after driving already for 12 hours!), we got wet, my wooden tack truck flooded too many times to count, I ate like a piggy at that Rooster place, I spent crazy money at Bit Of Britian, I met soooo many new people, and I had the time of my life!

We had a good dressage test, not our best, but moved up with each phase ending up in 10th in the Novice Ch and right behind caterlope! I have about 101 pics, but here are a few, man, I hope I quailfy next year, plus the 6 of us from Colorado had so much fun, I think many more from out here will go if they quailify!

Here we are in thevictory gallop (http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=08JQ000W000217&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1&d=0) and a stadium picture, (http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=08JQ000W000145&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1&d=0) dressage (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/FlyACK/AEC/NatetrotdressageAEC.jpg) and then the fun stuff, galloping on XC (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/FlyACK/AEC/NateGallopAEC.jpg) and in the second water (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/FlyACK/AEC/NateGallopWaterAEC.jpg) over the boat house (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/FlyACK/AEC/NateBoatHouseAEC.jpg) and my favorite picture happy to be done!!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/two2tango/Michelle/HappyTeam.jpg)

My friend took most of those, I have so many more, I can't wait to get the video, I almost got bucked off in the start box, wouldn't that have sucked?!

Sep. 23, 2004, 02:20 PM
Thanks Robby & Dale!

Dale & Ishi, it was such a pleasure to meet you both!

Robby, it was so easy to miss people down there! I really thought I would meet more COTHers, but the days just seemed to get away from me and before I knew it, we were headed home. I looked around for you, and I swear I saw you walking stadium on Saturday morning, but when I finished walking and looked around, that person was gone. Oh well! I'm sure we'll get a chance to meet one of these days!

I'm really shooting for the Training 3-Day in Kentucky next May, so I'm hoping we can have another COTH gathering there!

Robby Johnson
Sep. 24, 2004, 03:54 AM
Kelly, I did walk the s/j with my friend on Saturday morning, rather early (they were still finishing up the course decorating when we walked).

We will likely compete at Mayfest next year too so, if that plan develops, we'll definitely do a COTH stabling block.

Ishi, what lead you to Charlotte? We did the Asheville I-26 to I-81 detour around I-40 washout. Everyone had indicated this would add 2 hours to the six hour trip but it only added about 20 minutes by our calculations. That I-40 stretch at the TN/NC border is intense pulling a horse trailer. I much preferred the alternate route and would consider it again even if 40 was operational.

Did y'all stay in Knoxville on the way back, at Hillary Combs place? We got delayed in So. Pines two day when the truck broke down (fully loaded and 1/2 mile off the farm Sunday morning) and Hillary said she'd had 7 on Sunday night and a few were from Colorado. I didn't know if it was you or not. If so, I thought it was the best place in the world to overnight! I highly recommend her and thank Dave for sending me her information via private topic.

It's funny, now that I've done a trip East - and drove most of the miles - I would do another. It's actually a smidge closer for me to go to VA Horse Center, and I could do that rather easily as it's just I-40 to I-81 and I could overnight again in Knoxville. Plus, as I understand it, 81 isn't quite as treacherous as 40 in Asheville.


Sep. 24, 2004, 05:43 AM
GREAT pics!!! Thanks for the course walk! Looks like a great course! That bank a-b-c bending line combo makes me ITCH to get out there! FUN FUN! You have a beautiful horse, too! Congrats!

Dale Area 1
Sep. 24, 2004, 05:52 AM

I was stabled in barn F. I agree with everyone, that I thought I was going to see everyone from COTH, but I only meet Robby and KellyS.

Agree with Robby, next event we should have a COTH barn. Even though it was a long drive, and I did not compete, I am ready to go again next year.

Hear that Robby! Sign me up to volunteer on the PR team. Hubby said he will go next year also. Next time I will not groom as much and do what Robby instructed me to do, "Tilt back the head Ann" http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Robby Johnson
Sep. 24, 2004, 06:25 AM
Ann, you are the best! Thank you so much and always "tilt your head back!" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Sep. 24, 2004, 06:45 AM
Robby, that must have been you I saw then! We were walking the course at that time too...just before 8:00, and yes, they were still putting flowers out. Well, that was an "almost" COTH meeting! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Dale, my mom says "Hi!" back! She really enjoyed meeting you and seeing all the pictures of your beautiful farm.

Foxygrl, I'm glad you enjoyed the pics! I thought everyone would like to see the Novice (and Training) jumps - gives everyone a feel for the course and level of difficulty. And, yes, that bank combo just makes you want to get on and ride it!

Sep. 24, 2004, 11:02 AM
Robbie, that is what Mapquest told me to do (go through Charlotte), but coming home I went a different way from CHP up to Ashville so I could spend the day there and turn out the horses for 24 hours at my aunt's farm. I have no idea why I didn't just ask her for directions in the first place going out there! Charlotte was horrible with a trailer, way worse the St Louis or Kansas City, even with rush hour traffic in St Louis. I actually took 40 out of Ashville Tuesday AM and it was fine, about 180 feet were washed away on the other side but they had one lane open already, I was impressed! Because I wanted to go to my aunt's before coming home and give everyone a much needed break, I did Reaford to Ashville to Midway MO to Denver. Ashville to Midway was TOUGH! It was very long and boring! Coming down 40 from TN to NC was way harder then going back up it except Black Mountian is a little scarey hauling a trailer!

Next year I would deffinately plan doing Denver to Midway MO to Nashville to Reaford, that is IF I quailify again. I hope I do, that was more fun then I could have ever imagined! AEC was only my 6th HT, my horse and I started in March, so I had no idea what to expect, but I can honestly say, AEC went above and beyond anything I had thought it would be!

Robby Johnson
Sep. 24, 2004, 12:21 PM
That was definitely a big day for you. We went from the farm in So. Pines to Asheville in 6 hours but, I agree, Asheville is beautiful and worth stopping for! I'd love to go to Biltmore during the big shows there.

I'm hoping to be qualified next year as well.

Best luck to you!


Sep. 25, 2004, 08:07 AM
Is Kim OK??