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Ibex
Jun. 10, 2010, 06:42 PM
My old Boogaloos are slowly disintegrating. I shouldn't be sad. They've had a good life. :lol:

So what do you put on your lower level eventers? We're still at the "hopping over logs" stage. I love the boogaloos, but they're $$$ for neoprene brushing boots. Wading in the water complex is apparently a treat, so needs to be suitable for that.

Don't love the Eskadron ones - saw a friend lose one coming out of the water, and the horse pitched a fit. :eek:

subk
Jun. 10, 2010, 07:19 PM
Woofs. Bought them 40% off at Rolex. It was such a good deal I bought two sets of four just on principle...

Good leather ones for competition.

Highflyer
Jun. 10, 2010, 07:22 PM
I really like my Trizone Allsports. In the past I've used Woofs, but I love that the TZs are so breathable and dry really quickly. I think they run a tiny bit wider than the Woofs though--my guy is 16.1 with pretty good bone for a TB and the medium fits perfectly, but I wouldn't want it bigger.

Blugal
Jun. 10, 2010, 07:26 PM
On non-sensitive-skinned horses, the Davis boots (http://www.greenhawk.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/scstore/p-BOE2637.html?L+scstore+zjrr1865ff3a5e3a+1276234278 ) are pretty good, and only $35 per pair. They hold up for a long time, the velcro stays glued, there is no problem in the water jumps, and they don't pick up horrible spear grass 'stickers.'

I also like the Woofs, again for non-sensitive-skinned horses. I got them much cheaper than Boogaloos (I think they were on sale).

If you go to Greenhawk, avoid these (http://www.greenhawk.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/scstore/p-BOE0001.html?L+scstore+zjrr1865ff3a5e3a+1276234278 ). They are very stiff and easily rub horses' legs.

redears
Jun. 10, 2010, 08:23 PM
I got the ASBs from Dover and they are holding up extremely well. I use the fronts for every ride, flat or jump, and all arounds during XC and they are going on their 3rd year and still look fairly new. I would say they do run smallish or true to size, my 15.3 mare fits just right with medium front and large back, but my 14.3 but stocky boy has to wear large on his fronts.

hearthorse
Jun. 10, 2010, 10:56 PM
I really like my Trizone Allsports. In the past I've used Woofs, but I love that the TZs are so breathable and dry really quickly. I think they run a tiny bit wider than the Woofs though--my guy is 16.1 with pretty good bone for a TB and the medium fits perfectly, but I wouldn't want it bigger.

Sorry to high jack for a minute. Love the look and idea of the allsports but Im worried about getting a good fit. High Flyer do you happen to know the circumference of your horse's cannon bones? Everyone says the boots fit big and Im trying to figure out sizing for my reg. boned 16.3 boy. He has 8.5" circumference of the cannon bone. Can't find the site that had the actual measurements of the boots.

Eventer55
Jun. 11, 2010, 08:56 AM
FWIW: I was at a HT years ago and someone said to me "why do you have studs in the shoes, it's stupid at this level" Well, the reason was becasuse when I get to the upper levels, I'll know exactly what I'm doing and what I like!

I feel the same way about all equipment including boots. Having said that I like the Tri zone all sports, they're stiff at first, but now they're like a custom fit on my horse and they're also indestructible.

So, IMO find the equipment that will grow with you and besides, I've seen equipment come off at a low level water complex and the rider said to me "well, if I had your boots they would never have come off" So. . .

Lori T
Jun. 11, 2010, 09:28 AM
I have always preferred leather boots, both for Tucker at the lower levels (not to mention they are the only ones I have found that fit him) and for Imp at the upper level when she was competing.

Highflyer
Jun. 11, 2010, 10:32 AM
I don't, sorry. I'll try to find something to measure them with tonight, if I can remember (no promises!) but I doubt they're much bigger than 8.5. He's bigger than the average racebred TB, but not gigantic by any means.

ETA: I do have the boots here, so I can measure them, duh. I make it that they're exactly 9 in. long (measuring down the center of the strikeplate in back back--there's a cutout at the top) 10 on sides, and flattened out they are 11 1/2 in wide at the center and 12 in wide at the bottom. But when they're done up, there's an inch or so of overlap. They also aren't meant to fit as tightly as the Woofs--there are actually ridges inside which keep them off the horse's leg.

My ancient 4 strap Woofs are a bit over 9 1/2 down the back, and 10 down the center, and just over 11 wide at the center and 11 3/4 wide at the bottom--but they overlap a little less. So I think that if you had a horse that fits comfortably into the 4 strap Woofs, you're probably ok.

Note that the Allsports only come with the strikeplate down the back, so you may or may not want to use them as back boots. If your using them as an alternative to standard boots with no strikeplate, obviously it's not going to matter, but if you feel strongly about the strikeplate being on the front in back, they won't work. I'm still using the ancient Woofs in back, and when they die I'll probably just go with Allsports, but my horse isn't studded in front and is a very careful jumper.

hearthorse
Jun. 11, 2010, 10:41 AM
Thanks Highflyer. Just found the chart with the leg measurements on a UK site. Also, including shipping shipping to the US they are only $52!

http://www.performance-equestrian.co.uk/cat/catitem.asp?pc=ETASB&d=2&s=8

I was sold on the idea of these boots after the last event I was at. Pulled a pair of Woof boots off a novice horse and the heat was unreal. I wouldn't want a hot pair of neoprene boots on my legs in the summer while running, why would my horse. If my horse wasn't such a pansy and swelled up so much from little bumps I would go bootless. But if these boots do what they say than we can have the best of both.

GotSpots
Jun. 11, 2010, 10:41 AM
Woof boots for the lower levels. I'm not opposed to something like the Nunn Finer or Tri-Zone for XC, but I think woofs or another similar galloping boot is generally fine (and I actually think preferable - I'm not entirely opposed to having a youngster figure out that XC fences are solid).

LaraNSpeedy
Jun. 13, 2010, 11:31 PM
I am in the process of trying to find boots for a newbie eventer too. He will likely never take him to higher levels. I think Training level is a good level for him to aspire too.

I have a lot of boots in my tack room. My sporthorse guy is 16.2 and has been eventing - he goes in Woof boots and he has also a set of ASBs. He could probably get to Prelim if I can. But he fits in the Woofs...

But this new guy - he is petite - nothing I buy him seems to fit him except his open fronts and his SMBs. He has davis splint boots but they dont fit him right. I have been wondering - what is wrong with a horse going in the SMBs? They are neoprene and handle water fine. Is there something I should know about SMBs at the low levels?

AND does someone have a link to asite selling Boogaloos?

Ibex
Jun. 14, 2010, 12:41 AM
Greenhawk carries them! They're a one-size-fits-all thing tho...

Highflyer
Jun. 14, 2010, 07:23 AM
SMBs tend to really trap heat, and they don't shed water so they get very heavy--and both heavy and hot are very bad qualities in a boot. Personally, I don't like them for anything, but especially xc. Have you tried the smaller Woofs? The three strap size worked well on my old mare who had legs like a deer.

yellowbritches
Jun. 14, 2010, 08:24 AM
SMBs tend to really trap heat, and they don't shed water so they get very heavy--and both heavy and hot are very bad qualities in a boot. Personally, I don't like them for anything, but especially xc. Have you tried the smaller Woofs? The three strap size worked well on my old mare who had legs like a deer.
Agreed. These- http://www.smartpakequine.com/productclass.aspx?productClassid=4759
Fit our ponies well in Medium, and are pretty good on most fine boned, smaller TB types. I also like the Pelham Ascot/Bar F boots for smaller horses. I rode a handful of petite 15.1-15.3h horses for a few years and these went on all of them and fit really, really well. My old horse wore them all the way up through prelim and I used them on about 4 or 5 horses EVERYDAY for years. They also fit the bulkier of our ponies pretty well, too (the other one's cannons are a little short for them. The Woofs fit that one a little better length wise). They are still holding up for pony duty, so very good value. :yes:

As for the OT, I like Woofs or Woof knock offs (like the Nunn Finers or the hard to find Roma or WeatherBeeta knockoff) and, obviously, the Pelham Ascots if you can find them (our local tack shop carries them and I can usually get them from Somerset Saddlery, too). I do NOT like those Davis splint boots...that strap fastening set up makes me nervous for some reason.

EventingJ
Jun. 14, 2010, 10:30 AM
going to give a quick thumbs down for all sport boots. I never had a problem with them before until I took them xc schooling with water on a hot, hot day. Mare came back with hair missing on her hind legs :\

I currently have the ecogolds on her fronts, which are not giving her any rubs. I am looking into what to get for her back legs, I might stick with the ecogolds, while expensive, at least will not rub her hair off!