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farmgirl88
Jun. 1, 2010, 01:50 PM
So i went throught the finger lakes and the CANTER listings this afternoon and picked out the ones i liked the most. figured i would post them here in hopes that someone might be looking for a fancy new project

Check out this looker:

http://fltrainerlist.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1253

this grey is very nice too:

http://fltrainerlist.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1255

big, impresive (almost black) geld:

http://fltrainerlist.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1240

gorgeous chest mare in PA

http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2181:subtle-cue&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings&directory=279

stunning gelding:

http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2073:qmr-nedq&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings&directory=279

this guy is really well balanced too with great bone:

http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1963:update-32210-price-reduced-mo-mo-mojave&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings&directory=279

love the bone/coloring on this filly:

http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1963:update-32210-price-reduced-mo-mo-mojave&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings&directory=279

warmblood-type mare:

http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2139:littlebitofstorm&catid=258:ky-trainer-listings&directory=342

HUNTER anyone????

http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2202:yankee-frankie&catid=41:n-cal-trainer-listings&directory=61


surely more beauties to be posted in the next few weeks as trainers get settled into tracks after moving around for the winter...

Beam Me Up
Jun. 1, 2010, 02:07 PM
I want Euromaker!!

danceronice
Jun. 1, 2010, 02:33 PM
I want Euromaker!!

Someone needs to buy him. I don't have time for two.

(I admit I'm tempted by Quiet Jet--Fappiano granddaughter for $300--but then I don't care about the knee as I'd be buying a mare to breed, not ride.)

http://fltrainerlist.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1243

MyGiantPony
Jun. 1, 2010, 02:41 PM
I want Euromaker!!

Love him - he reminds me of my first OTTB. Can anyone check to see if there's any O'Hara blood there?

caffeinated
Jun. 1, 2010, 02:44 PM
I really like these (but I'm biased, I love Charles Town nags!):

Post Play (http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2189:4-yo-filly-pretty-and-lightly-raced&catid=49:charlestown-trainer-listings&directory=282) (she'll fill out nice I think - seems sweet like she'll let down very well and be an in your pocket type)

Proverbs Dancer (http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2190:gorgeous-4-yo-gelding-loaded-with-chrome&catid=49:charlestown-trainer-listings&directory=282) (flashy flashy! And in great weight/condition)

Brutus (http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2193:wow-beautiful-big-dark-bay-gelding&catid=49:charlestown-trainer-listings&directory=282) (some bumps and dings on this guy but just so quiet while we were there. neat horse)

This horse (http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1201:flashy-6-yr-old-163-hh-gelding&catid=49:charlestown-trainer-listings&directory=282)I really like - not sure he's still available but if I was shopping I'd go look :)

FSU Girl
Jun. 1, 2010, 03:26 PM
LOVE Mr. Ned! All of these threads on OTTB have made me decide that once I graduate college and have a real job I will be buying one :winkgrin:

danceronice
Jun. 1, 2010, 07:09 PM
Love him - he reminds me of my first OTTB. Can anyone check to see if there's any O'Hara blood there?

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/fc_display.cgi?userfile=P41541342207531

He's by a son of Unbridled's Song (which kind of makes me hem and haw about his ankles but he at least hasn't been working them hard so far), his damsire is a son of Storm Cat, and his dam is out of a Risen Star mare who herself is out of a Clever Trick mare. He has inbreeding to Secretariat and Northern Dancer. So he may have bombed at the track, but he's very much a blue blood.

mojo7777
Jun. 1, 2010, 08:42 PM
Subtle Cue rings my bell. I just need to make LOTS more money! :)

jewll27
Jun. 1, 2010, 08:47 PM
nevermind lol I actually opened my eyes this time!! I <3 Euromaker!

KBEquine
Jun. 1, 2010, 08:59 PM
nevermind lol I actually opened my eyes this time!! I <3 Euromaker!

http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm?page_state=ORDER_AND_CONFIRM&reference_number=8064734

Euromaker - 2007 model, just 6 starts. Very nice, but between Unbridled's Song's ankles & Storm Cat's knees . . . maybe will never hurt him after he's off the track, though.

Mojo777 - make the money fast. We're probably closer & already have an appointment to see her!

Linny
Jun. 1, 2010, 09:22 PM
The last one posted by the OP, Yakee Frankie is amazing looking. Good thing he's literally a continent away.

EqTrainer
Jun. 1, 2010, 10:25 PM
Live Action

http://fltrainerlist.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1255

I want to kiss his little face.. Oh my!!!

leilatigress
Jun. 1, 2010, 10:56 PM
Love me some grey and totally in love with Euromaker. I'd name him handsome and just let the compliments roll in. Grey's a little fine in the legs for my tastes but he'd look stunning in a western saddle. Speaking of western Dancer boy indeed looks more QH than TB but I LOVE his legs.

farmgirl88
Jun. 2, 2010, 08:55 AM
you can't really base bloodlines that are several generations back on the soundness of the horse. If storm cat or unbridled song are not the sire of the horse; i wouldn't worry about it too much. have a ppe done on the horse and go from there.

The wort thing about people analyzing OTTB's is that they look at the pedigree and base judgment from there. My OTTB is by Gulch and out of a mare by Storm Bird and out of cadette stevens. He has both native dancer and northern dancer in his pedigree (northern dancer being a grandsire). this horse raced successfully until he was 8 yrs and retired completely sound and clean legged...the vet who did his PPE was amazed.

I think its great to analyze pedigrees for soundness but i just cant stand it when people will look at a horsae from a photo, look up the pedigree next and then base soundness off of that. if you're seriously considering buying one contact the trainer, ask some questions then contact a local vet or the track vet to do a PPE on the horse. You'd be surprised at how easy it is....

Pedigrees can tell us a lot about a horse but you can't base any conclusions off of anything until you've actually seen the horse or a vet has looked the horse over for soundness. Don't let a horse's pedigree, especially what is a few generations back, determine whether or not you want to consider a horse for purchase.

NE_Rider
Jun. 2, 2010, 08:55 AM
Oh, good, you guys haven't found the one I love, yet.....:sadsmile: She'll be grabbed quickly, I am sure...but I can still dream, right???

To the MAX
Jun. 2, 2010, 09:03 AM
WHY has no one put this guy up??
http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2130:jokers-win&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings&directory=279

danceronice
Jun. 2, 2010, 10:33 AM
:rolleyes: No one on here is saying "Ooh, he has Storm Cat, he MUST have bad knees." But Raise A Native hasn't sired anything for a VERY long time (what with being dead and all) and inbreeding to him still puts crap ankles on horses. Seeing a lot of certain names clustered in the first five is a good way to know what to look out for, ESPECIALLY in younger horses who've been unsuccessful. If only the sire and dam matter at all, then looking for sport-horse names like Fappiano and Turn-to is also silly as they haven't put anything on the ground lately, either.

Likewise, while it doesn't seem to do much for their RACING skills, I personally now give an extra long look to horses with Crafty Admiral near up on top (generally through Crafty Prospector's dam these days) and a dam with a lot of the Hooper Farms horses (Tri Jet, Greek Game, Olympia, Copelan, Susan's Girl, etc.) I've had two horses with that (broadly-defined) nick and seen another, and while they aren't the most stunning lookers in the world, they've all had incredibly good minds.

There are a lot of very good reasons to look at a pedigree past the sire and dam. Soundness is one. Given most people on this board have been buying horses at least as long as I've been, in most cases more, I wouldn't assume anyone on here would automatically dismiss a horse solely because he has two popular stallions whose close descendants tend to have problems. But it might make them x-ray those knees and ankles in a lot more detail, especially when the racing record is very light.

TrotTrotPumpkn
Jun. 2, 2010, 11:00 AM
WHY has no one put this guy up??
http://canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2130:jokers-win&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings&directory=279

I like him too.

To answer your probably rhetorical question, I'm guessing the price is why he's still available...

see u at x
Jun. 2, 2010, 11:28 AM
I like him too.

To answer your probably rhetorical question, I'm guessing the price is why he's still available...

I'm curious as to why a few of these horses get priced so high. That isn't to say that many of the ones who ARE priced higher than average aren't very nice horses, but I just don't get it. (Another good example is that pretty, chromed out mare mentioned on an earlier thread that was selling for $5k.) The market is still pretty bad right now, so I guess I find it kind of surprising that someone would go out and spend that kind of money for an ex-racehorse without any off-track training, any sort of show record, etc. Am I crazy for wondering that? If there's good justification for it that I'm not grasping, I'd love for someone to explain.

caffeinated
Jun. 2, 2010, 11:36 AM
Horses are priced the way they are because that's what the trainer wants for them. :) Just because they're TBs on the track doesn't mean they're worthless - some trainers have experience outside of racing and know when they have a nice horse. Additionally many of these horses are still racing and have a claiming value higher than the asking price ($3000 may seem like a lot to some people, but that same horse might get claimed for $4000 or $5000 - his value on the track might be higher than what they're asking for).

Personally if the horse is nice enough and passes a PPE I wouldn't balk at most of the pricing. Some people are certainly unrealistic (like, say, listing a horse with two bowed front legs for $2500), but I tend to think 2-3K isn't really a lot to spend on a horse, but that's just me. Different people have different opinions on that.

see u at x
Jun. 2, 2010, 11:44 AM
Horses are priced the way they are because that's what the trainer wants for them. :) Just because they're TBs on the track doesn't mean they're worthless - some trainers have experience outside of racing and know when they have a nice horse. Additionally many of these horses are still racing and have a claiming value higher than the asking price ($3000 may seem like a lot to some people, but that same horse might get claimed for $4000 or $5000 - his value on the track might be higher than what they're asking for).

Personally if the horse is nice enough and passes a PPE I wouldn't balk at most of the pricing. Some people are certainly unrealistic (like, say, listing a horse with two bowed front legs for $2500), but I tend to think 2-3K isn't really a lot to spend on a horse, but that's just me. Different people have different opinions on that.

Thank you! :)

MyGiantPony
Jun. 2, 2010, 11:57 AM
I'm curious as to why a few of these horses get priced so high. That isn't to say that many of the ones who ARE priced higher than average aren't very nice horses, but I just don't get it. (Another good example is that pretty, chromed out mare mentioned on an earlier thread that was selling for $5k.) The market is still pretty bad right now, so I guess I find it kind of surprising that someone would go out and spend that kind of money for an ex-racehorse without any off-track training, any sort of show record, etc. Am I crazy for wondering that? If there's good justification for it that I'm not grasping, I'd love for someone to explain.

What caffeinatted said.

Plus, most of them are broke to death for every day stuff like trailering, mane pulling, baths, clippers, machinery, noisy crowds, fluttering flags and a million other things.

That's worth a lot to me.

EAY
Jun. 2, 2010, 12:05 PM
What caffeinatted said.

Plus, most of them are broke to death for every day stuff like trailering, mane pulling, baths, clippers, machinery, noisy crowds, fluttering flags and a million other things.

That's worth a lot to me.

And the listing for Joker's Win says that he's got hunter movement and a big stride, has a great temperament, and has already been turned out, so I don't see where $2499 is so much for a horse who's also sound, athletic, and good looking.

mortebella
Jun. 2, 2010, 02:21 PM
Hey, hey, I'll take Joker's Win if I get my farm bought in time. He's just serious gorgeous, ain't he? :cool:

KBEquine
Jun. 3, 2010, 12:22 AM
:rolleyes: No one on here is saying "Ooh, he has Storm Cat, he MUST have bad knees." But Raise A Native hasn't sired anything for a VERY long time (what with being dead and all) and inbreeding to him still puts crap ankles on horses. Seeing a lot of certain names clustered in the first five is a good way to know what to look out for, ESPECIALLY in younger horses who've been unsuccessful. If only the sire and dam matter at all, then looking for sport-horse names like Fappiano and Turn-to is also silly as they haven't put anything on the ground lately, either.

You're making me giggle in agreement.


Likewise, while it doesn't seem to do much for their RACING skills, I personally now give an extra long look to horses with Crafty Admiral near up on top (generally through Crafty Prospector's dam these days) and a dam with a lot of the Hooper Farms horses (Tri Jet, Greek Game, Olympia, Copelan, Susan's Girl, etc.) I've had two horses with that (broadly-defined) nick and seen another, and while they aren't the most stunning lookers in the world, they've all had incredibly good minds.

There are a lot of very good reasons to look at a pedigree past the sire and dam. Soundness is one. Given most people on this board have been buying horses at least as long as I've been, in most cases more, I wouldn't assume anyone on here would automatically dismiss a horse solely because he has two popular stallions whose close descendants tend to have problems. But it might make them x-ray those knees and ankles in a lot more detail, especially when the racing record is very light.

Now you're just plain scaring me because until now, I thought I was the only one looking for Tri Jet, Olympia, etc., etc.


Subtle Cue rings my bell. I just need to make LOTS more money! :)

Yeah, can you believe she's actually about 16.1 & they'd advertised her at 15.3? (We measured her after we'd brought her home.)