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Auventera Two
May. 26, 2010, 11:20 AM
He's a little thin from 3 1/2 days on a trailer but does not seem the least bit stressed. He has a GREAT personality - goofy, loveable, and seems to be a real ham. He's settling in really well.

The very first thing he did was plant his forehead in my chest and start scrubbing. A little later in the evening, he stuck his foot in his water bucket, flipped it over, then rolled in the mud pie. The seller said he LOVES water and swims in the water tanks. Lovely. :lol:

He is very small but a little weight and proper muscling will be a big improvement. He's a little homely just standing there but when he gets moving, he sure is fancy. He should make a real cute little trail horse.

http://www.hphoofcare.com/SDC11212.jpg

http://www.hphoofcare.com/SDC11201.jpg

tkhawk
May. 26, 2010, 11:48 AM
Cute!! Is he a Peruvian? Looks very much like a Peruvian I used to know.

Auventera Two
May. 26, 2010, 11:51 AM
He's Paso Fino. This is him: http://www.pasofinodata.com/Details.aspx?HorseID=54795

tkhawk
May. 26, 2010, 11:54 AM
He is cute though. He just reminded me of a Peruvian I knew a while ago . But he is cute and have fun with your horse-it is real fun gaiting along!

citydog
May. 26, 2010, 02:01 PM
A2, how big is he?

Auventera Two
May. 26, 2010, 02:14 PM
14 h. Didn't put a weight tape on him yet.

Leather
May. 26, 2010, 02:23 PM
Give the El Pastor and double Brillante Negro I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a good largo in him.

I've heard El Pastor horses are total sweethearts.

Congratulations!

mp
May. 26, 2010, 02:27 PM
He's a cute little guy. Is he the color you wanted?

Auventera Two
May. 26, 2010, 03:15 PM
Thanks Leather for the information, I don't know a thing about Pasos :) He is sure a honey! He seems to just love getting his head scratched and hugged. The seller said that she has not seen him largo but he was in a smaller sized acreage that was very rocky, so I wonder if he didn't have the right footing to give it a try? He's very quick, that's for sure. The mares were getting him hyper and his legs were going like pistons.

mp - Well, the color is similar but much lighter than Libbey. He is definitely the sooty buckskin but more faded and brown colored. She was more black. I hope that the diet I feed will darken his color a bit. The higher omega 3 content seems to darken coats up a little bit.

If I read the paperwork right, he started out in Florida, went to New York, then Masachussettes, now to Wisconsin. I'd like to find out more about his history.

egontoast
May. 26, 2010, 03:36 PM
He's a little thin from 3 1/2 days on a trailer ....

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He is very small but a little weight and proper muscling will be a big improvement. ...

http://www.hphoofcare.com/SDC11212.jpg


Seriously? You think he is thin? :confused:

Leather
May. 26, 2010, 03:41 PM
Lots of good Paso info here:

http://americanpasofinos.com/forum/

hitchinmygetalong
May. 26, 2010, 03:48 PM
He's very cute.

I don't think he is thin - he's fine-boned (which I think is typical for Paso Fino's) and I wouldn't want to see him gain too much weight. It's always better to keep a horse on the light side, I think. Once you are working with him and he has a chance to build up some muscle tone, he will look much better, as I am sure you know.

Have fun!

Huntertwo
May. 26, 2010, 03:48 PM
He's cute. Just my size...:yes:

What are you going to call him?

mp
May. 26, 2010, 03:53 PM
mp - Well, the color is similar but much lighter than Libbey. He is definitely the sooty buckskin but more faded and brown colored. She was more black. I hope that the diet I feed will improve his color a bit.

Not like you could ask for a color swatch, huh? ;)

If he's a good horse, he's a good color. Have fun with him.

citydog
May. 26, 2010, 04:06 PM
He's very cute.

I don't think he is thin - he's fine-boned

:yes:

I think his weight looks pretty good; he just needs muscle.

That really is a pretty color. Have fun with him.

Auventera Two
May. 26, 2010, 04:53 PM
Lots of good Paso info here:

http://americanpasofinos.com/forum/

Very cool, thank you!! :)

Leather
May. 26, 2010, 05:42 PM
I'm pretty sure the barn swallows have bigger chests than he does.

The joke is that some Pasos are so narrow they have both front legs coming out of one socket. :lol:

Auventera Two
May. 26, 2010, 05:59 PM
Hey, I believe it! His chest is probably about 3 hairs wide. I'll have to practice riding a clothes line before I get on him so I have the balancing right! LOL

sublimequine
May. 26, 2010, 06:09 PM
Pleassse tell me you're going to buy him all that fabulous Paso tack.. oh that stuff makes me drool, and wonder just HOW silly my tank QH would look in Paso regalia.. :lol::lol::lol:

Thomas_1
May. 26, 2010, 07:49 PM
I wouldn't say he's "little" if he's 14 hands. That's where he should be.

Neither would I judge him to be thin. He's not got much substance but that's to do with his lack of bone not any significant lack of cover.

goeslikestink
May. 26, 2010, 08:11 PM
he probably looks tucked up due to the journey as no doubt he was rationed with his water

hitchinmygetalong
May. 26, 2010, 10:01 PM
Because my curiosity has been piqued, I have done a little bit of you tube "research" :lol: and came across this pretty cool Paso Fino:

(skip ahead to 1:45 for under saddle work)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-woQ8aJRVQ

sparky6
May. 26, 2010, 11:00 PM
He's cute! I got to trail ride on a Paso a few times several years ago. The first day we went we pulled up to a friend's house and they had all their big, tall QH's and TB's saddled (I grew up as a hunter rider and I'm tall-that combo=major weakness for big, tall horses) and they lead me up to this tiny little black pony. Not going to lie-I totally judged him on his size and was a more than a little bummed that I got stuck on the little one. Man oh man! Never again will I do that-he was one of the coolest horses I've ever ridden. I wouldn't let them put me on the big guys for the other visits :D What an introduction to a great breed! I'm sure you'll enjoy him-sounds like he's already enjoying you and his new home :):yes:

pnalley
May. 26, 2010, 11:44 PM
He is from Greener Pastures (FL) breeding, they have the Sin Par suffix. El Pastor was still breeding at 30 and was deemed to be a foundation horse. Your boy has him really close up (that is rare these days) I'm sure you can google Greener Pastures and get loads of info. Robin Ratliff is part owner (with her Mom) and trainer. She has been the president of the PFHA. I would imagine she would be happy to talk to you about his breeding in depth.
I'm pretty sure the WIndsong suffix is from a lady that posts as Russel on APF, she is now breeding Tiger horses I think.
I would warn you on a few things with Paso's.
1) typically they are easy keepers (like ponies)
2) they do NOT know they are little.
3) they are like potato chips, you can't have just one.:D

Congratulations! I am sure you will enjoy him!

Check out the APF forum. There are a lot of good folks there. Including Leather & myself!

Here is a cool video of a Paso competing in the Wind Rider Challenge. I'm pretty sure I would hurt myself if I tried it.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVg3rb_6IWo

Congratulations to Camilla and Mercy...the only Paso Fino, the only gaited horse....and they WON!!!!

(of course, after you watch the video you'll see why!!)

chaltagor
May. 27, 2010, 12:19 AM
If I read the paperwork right, he started out in Florida, went to New York, then Masachussettes, now to Wisconsin. I'd like to find out more about his history.

Your seller says the person they got him from in turn got him from Tenn. so that's another state to add. So you're at least the fourth owner and no one's ever done much with him at all?

edit: of course, that could have been one owner moving, forgot about that.

Leather
May. 27, 2010, 12:37 AM
I'm pretty sure the WIndsong suffix is from a lady that posts as Russel on APF, she is now breeding Tiger horses I think.


I didn't even notice the Wind Song horses.

Wind Song was a farm up here in MN. Primera Wind Song is my mare's great grand dam!

(I believe Rusel used Windsong, no space.)

pnalley
May. 27, 2010, 09:38 AM
every Windsong horse I have seen was really nice. Did they have the Hilaches lines?

It looks like your boy is a mix of Colombian & Puerto Rican Lines. (I don't see any Cuban). Mine that are mixed like that are the better gaited and just all around better horses (though others might not agree)

Auventera Two
May. 27, 2010, 09:39 AM
Thanks everyone for so much good information!!!!! This is awesome :D Thank you pnalley for the insight - I will definitely look them up.

And yep, definitely going to keep a close eye on his weight. I trim a few Pasos that are foundered and Cushings/overweight/mismanaged. It's not a good deal. And yep, I'm already thinking I should probably get a another half dozen or so. LOL :D

He is just a doll. A real sweetie with the most lovely disposition. The person that I got him from did him a world of good. He was in a bad situation before she got him.

He's even neat as a pin in his stall and paddock. All the mess is in one neat little pile each day. I love this little guy more by the minute :) His gaits are lovely and boy can he strut when he thinks the girls are looking.

The little bit of thinness seems to have filled out. He was undoubtedly a bit dehydrated from the long trip. His previous owner had his coat in beautiful condition, very soft and healthy. He's been drinking and eating really well and he looked great this morning. He didn't bat an eye for the aerosol fly spray. Just a great little horse!

Zu Zu
May. 27, 2010, 09:41 AM
Congratulations !!! He is a doll !!! Enjoy !!!

Auventera Two
May. 27, 2010, 09:49 AM
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVg3rb_6IWo

Congratulations to Camilla and Mercy...the only Paso Fino, the only gaited horse....and they WON!!!!

(of course, after you watch the video you'll see why!!)

I watched Camilla in person at the horse fair and WOW! :eek: What a classy, lovely pair. They are real professionals and ambassadors for the breed. They did a beautiful job and it was an absolute joy to watch them perform. Merci was a gentlemen and really stood out among all the others.

Auventera Two
May. 27, 2010, 10:24 AM
Pleassse tell me you're going to buy him all that fabulous Paso tack.. oh that stuff makes me drool, and wonder just HOW silly my tank QH would look in Paso regalia.. :lol::lol::lol:

Whoahhhhh I hadn't considered that. :eek: You just made my day :D Quick, somebody give me some tack store links. LOL

spookhorse
May. 27, 2010, 10:41 AM
He actually looks to be in pretty good weight for what he is- a lightboned little Paso :)

As for muscling up, gaited horses of any flavor don't tend to visibly muscle up quite like trotting horses. They always have a smoother/rounder appearance.

I sent my Paso Fino mare off to "boot camp" with a trainer for 30 days and while he certainly worked the weight off her (she was sooo fat), she did not develop much more visible muscling than she had when she she was in good weight and not much work. Just the way they are...

Leather
May. 27, 2010, 11:17 AM
every Windsong horse I have seen was really nice. Did they have the Hilaches lines?

Yes, Wind Song had Hilachas. I think a lot of their stock came from Meridian Meadows. AFAIK they didn't get into the Resorte lines (nothing against Resorte).


Quick, somebody give me some tack store links. LOL
Paso Fino tack stores:
http://www.trpasos.com/tack.html

http://casadosa.com/Scripts/default.asp

http://www.kudastore.com/store/

While Paso Fino tack can be neat, the really cool stuff is Peruvian Paso tack. That stuff is $$$$!!!

http://www.peruviantack.com/headgear.html

Leather
May. 27, 2010, 11:21 AM
2) they do NOT know they are little.


Nor do they ride like a little horse!

Last summer I was giving test rides to people at our annual camping trip with my 14 h finely built mare.

Everybody that tried her remarked how deceiving her size on the ground is compared to in the saddle.

Even my 6' friend who only rides 17+ hand horses felt fine on her.

pnalley
May. 27, 2010, 01:59 PM
Leather since you gave all those tack links I'm thinking you are an enabler. I like that in a person!

Auventera Two
May. 27, 2010, 05:49 PM
I talked to someone at Greener Pastures. She said his name does not sound familiar to her, and they never owned the dam. They owned the sire so it had to have been just an outside breeding. I'll have to do some more digging to find out who owned/owns the dam at the time he was foaled.

ambar
May. 27, 2010, 08:27 PM
You found an El Pastor grandson?

*swoon*

(My heart horse, long gone never forgotten: http://www.pasofinodata.com/Details.aspx?HorseID=1039 ) -- he was the image of El Pastor.

El Pastor was the model for the first Breyer Paso Fino model, which has been released in several other colors since --

Auventera Two
May. 27, 2010, 08:35 PM
You found an El Pastor grandson?

LOL :lol: Sure, I guess! :winkgrin: I just wanted the color!

*swoon*


(My heart horse, long gone never forgotten: http://www.pasofinodata.com/Details.aspx?HorseID=1039 )I've been noticing a good number of Pasos have incomplete pedigrees. Even my horse's registration papers has 2 empty holes. Is this common in the breed? I wouldn't think a horse could be registered if a complete pedigree cannot be generated? Can anyone explain?

Oh oops, earlier someone asked what I was going to call him. I've started a tradition of giving every new horse here an "A" name (Auventera, Andre) so I've settled on Amadeus. That has nothing to do with his registered name, but I like it.

ambar
May. 27, 2010, 08:37 PM
I've been noticing a good number of Pasos have incomplete pedigrees. Even my horse's registration papers has 2 empty holes. Is this common in the breed? I wouldn't think a horse could be registered if a complete pedigree cannot be generated? Can anyone explain?

They go back to registries in the countries of origin (Puerto Rico, Colombia, etc). I'm not an expert on those registries, but short pedigrees are quite common in American-bred Pasos.

ambar
May. 27, 2010, 08:43 PM
This might give you some feel for the Puerto Rican side of the history. http://purepuertoricanpasofino.org/heinz.htm

pnalley
May. 28, 2010, 09:46 AM
You are more likey to see holes inthe pedigree when they are older, or hav ethe old lines close up.

I have a gelding with El Pastor on his papers. He's is a nice gaited horse. and big at 15 hands

His dam is 1/2 n 1/2, she has old lines close up too.

Leather
May. 28, 2010, 02:46 PM
Leather since you gave all those tack links I'm thinking you are an enabler. I like that in a person!

Absolutely I'm an enabler!

Why do you think my friend with 2 horses has 7 saddles? :lol:

pnalley
May. 31, 2010, 03:23 PM
I have a total of 8 horses and I have 5 saddles. Plus we have 3 others I call my husbands saddles. Looks like I need to go shopping. I don't have the right saddle:horse ratio:D

Koniucha
May. 31, 2010, 06:20 PM
He is cute! I wanted to also share about the Paso Fino I am working with. He is a three year old that we are training in hunter/dressage. Here is a picture of us at his first show (an arab show!)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4726983&l=6f498175c2&id=516697273

We will be doing a dressage show in August. He is awesome! His name is Bourbon and he is very smart! I am not sure about his pedigree, I think the owners told me his sire is Don Julio, but he is from Costa Rica.

Auventera Two
May. 31, 2010, 06:47 PM
Oh wow, he sure looks great!!! He looks like a fancy ride :D

pnalley
May. 31, 2010, 06:49 PM
He is cute. Are you doing gaited dressage with him?

We are doig ranch sorting with ours, big fun!

movo
May. 31, 2010, 08:40 PM
Congratulations on your Paso Fino. He is very, very, cute. I love my two paso finos. They are both 14.2h. I only trail ride with them, but they are so much fun and fearless.

I like the barn name you picked. My gelding's daddy was Amadeus http://www.winningcolorspasos.com/AmadeusdeResorteCuartoSite.htm

This is my gelding:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v320/movo/Mateo%20and%20Friends/?action=view&current=mateowhatsup.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v320/movo/Mateo%20and%20Friends/?action=view&current=FILE0099.jpg&#!oZZ8QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fsmg.photobucket.com% 2Falbums%2Fv320%2Fmovo%2FMateo%2520and%2520Friends %2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dmateograzes.jpg%26

This is my mare (Christine) a friend is aboard in this picture:
http://www.dropshots.com/movo#date/2009-11-27/17:42:47

You are going to have so much fun, other than the fact that quarter horse folks aren't really crazy about going out on trail with Paso people. They do not want to trot the entire way and my Pasos aren't very happy about walking slowly with the quarter horses. LOL!!

LuvMyNSH
May. 31, 2010, 10:35 PM
He is cute! I wanted to also share about the Paso Fino I am working with. He is a three year old that we are training in hunter/dressage. Here is a picture of us at his first show (an arab show!)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4726983&l=6f498175c2&id=516697273

Is that Ingalls? I had heard there was an arab club that stages a dressage show up there, but can never find any real info or a class list of any kind. I'm really, really interested in it. Even more so if they've got classes that are suitable for (or judges that are open to) a gaited entry.

Auventera Two
Jun. 1, 2010, 11:35 AM
movo - wow lovely!! Thanks for sharing the photos :)

Even leading this guy in and out of the barn - he is a FAST walker with a long stride. When he gets in boogie gear, he really moves!

I put the weight tape on him finally and got 747 lbs. And his halter is a yearling size. :eek: :sadsmile: Too cute!

Koniucha
Jun. 1, 2010, 11:50 AM
He is cute. Are you doing gaited dressage with him?

We are doig ranch sorting with ours, big fun!

We are doing just regular dressage. He does not really have much of a paso gait anymore, the only thing left is an easy to sit trot.

I reallyu do not know much about Paso's as this is my first experience. Is that normal that he does not gait? I plan to see if the little guy will jump too!

Koniucha
Jun. 1, 2010, 11:52 AM
Is that Ingalls? I had heard there was an arab club that stages a dressage show up there, but can never find any real info or a class list of any kind. I'm really, really interested in it. Even more so if they've got classes that are suitable for (or judges that are open to) a gaited entry.

This is in Queen Creek, AZ at a schooling show. The show was halter, driving (no entries), western, and hunter. People were very intrigued about him and kept asking what breed he was. He did very good and improved 100% in just that day.

Koniucha
Jun. 1, 2010, 07:09 PM
Just wanted to show off one more picture of us trotting.

http://www.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=0ONH00960M0000&po=0&pc=20

It has been such a pleasure working with this horse!

E.T.A. I thought it would go right to the picture but it is the third one.