Horse missing an owner . . .

[Thoroughbred1201]

We have an interesting story here in Western Washington State right now. A throughbred was found on the road in the Lake Stevens area wandering loose. An obviously well cared for horse, wearing what the news termed an expensive leather halter and nameplate, chain, and trailing a lead rope. Nobody has claimed him, and he will be auctioned off next week by the Marysville auction.

All the news media state that the horse is obviously quality, and they have tried for about three weeks to find an owner. He is about 5 years old, and is tattooed.

Anybody have any ideas?

[Thoroughbred1201]

We have an interesting story here in Western Washington State right now. A throughbred was found on the road in the Lake Stevens area wandering loose. An obviously well cared for horse, wearing what the news termed an expensive leather halter and nameplate, chain, and trailing a lead rope. Nobody has claimed him, and he will be auctioned off next week by the Marysville auction.

All the news media state that the horse is obviously quality, and they have tried for about three weeks to find an owner. He is about 5 years old, and is tattooed.

Anybody have any ideas?

[Treat Wench]

Can't they trace him through his tattoo? At least to find his track owner and find out who he was sold to...it would be the best place to start.



"Horse sense is what a horse has that keeps him from betting on people"
W.C. Fields
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[Thoroughbred1201]

Actually the news said that they couldn't. It was a deadend. And unlike warmbloods, or QHs, once a TB is off the track the papers usually get lost along the way. I've always had off the track TBs and I've only had the papers on one of them! Besides, there isn't really a transfer process; you just sign them over to the new owner.

[EponaRoan]

More info on the horse:

http://www.netposse.com/stolenmissing/whereisowner/foundWAdec03.htm

Pat
http://www.quarterpole.com

[N103]

Here are some of my thoughts and ramblings on the subject http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Not that I'm the first one to think of this, but I wonder if he was stolen and then got loose, and the thief is afraid to claim him again? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I would say much wider advertising is needed-if he was stolen he could be from anywhere in this country. But..the NetPosse has probably already tried matching them to their stolen horses, so it's very strange. Unless he was recently stolen and the owners are out of town?..

[MistyBlue]

Does sound odd. Hopefully not a case of owner having horse at home and living solo and the horse got loose when owner was hurt? Or owner home ill? Although I would think if the horse were found a while back the owner would have contacted someone.

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[lilblackhorse]

saw that last nite on nw cable news--nice looking horse. They also showed the barn which collapsed in oregon-it was a very rinky dink looking place, not a surprise really, but still very sad.

I hope someone nice claims the horse at auction-they said he was a good looking TB...wonder how old?

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[War Admiral]

Oh my gosh, and he is SUCH a beauty, too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Please, folks, crosspost this info everywhere you can think of. I hate to think of this loffly horse going to an auction. And the poor heartsick owner. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif My very first OTTB was stolen so this one really hits home for me.

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[War Admiral]

I wonder if they checked to see if the horse's name on the name plate matched anything with USEF??

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[June]

I subscribe to COTH, retrainingtbs on Yahoo and Bighorse2.

Admittedly, I delete most of the posts on the two Yahoo groups and I <know> that in the last 1 or 2 weeks I deleted a post that said someone had had a horse stolen in Washington state and gave description etc... Could this be the one and the same??

I'm so sorry! I haven't deleted the delete file and will try to go through several hundred emails but perhaps someone more knowledgable than I can find this post and see if it is one and the same horse!!

June

"The world's greatest achievements often happen on the edge of chaos"

[War Admiral]

Posts to retraintb's are archived. I'm running over there RIGHT NOW!!!

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[War Admiral]

Posts to retraintb's are archived. I'm running over there RIGHT NOW!!!

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[Two Toofs]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Throughbred:
Actually the news said that they couldn't. It was a deadend. And unlike warmbloods, or QHs, once a TB is off the track the papers usually get lost along the way. I've always had off the track TBs and I've only had the papers on one of them! Besides, there isn't really a transfer process; you just sign them over to the new owner.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

True enough, but if they have the horse's name (from the nameplate) a $3 report from equineline.com will tell the last track & owner the horse was at, and could lead to whomever they sold the horse to, if they are not the owners themselves.

Two Toofs
(formerly - but still - NDANO)

[dressager]

I REALLY wish I was still in WA, for this horse (if they are going to auction him off). Have they contacted barns in the area?

Dressager (http://www.geocities.com/lubenkafarm)
You don't throw a whole life away just because its a little banged up - Tom Smith

[War Admiral]

Sorry for duplicate posts - computer probs.

June, nothing shows up in the retraintb's archives other than a previous poster posting the link to Netposse.

I did contact the e-mail addy given on netposse and told them to check w/ USEF to see if the name on the name plate shows up in their records.

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--George Morris

[June]

Hey War Admiral, thank you! I have 2700 emails in the delete folder http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif but maybe that will work to our advantage &lt;this&gt; time! It may have been a ROAN email???? Don't know why but I receive those sometimes too. I'll be foraging and rummaging in the delete file and see if it floats to the surface...

June

"The world's greatest achievements often happen on the edge of chaos"

[War Admiral]

Just posted to UDBB and the carriage driving list. Can anyone crosspost on Eventers-L and the foxhunting list I always forget the name of?

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[armandh]

on outlook click at the top of the date column and it will arange from z to a click again for a to z same for the other columns. makes sorting and finding less of a chore

more hay, less grain

[June]

I found it but am sorry to say that is was a notice of a horse found, not lost, same horse as on this thread, dated Jan 14...I'm sorry.

June

"The world's greatest achievements often happen on the edge of chaos"

[War Admiral]

Worth a try, June! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I wonder... whether the UPF or ReRun Wash. could bid him in (if he does go to auction) if we could come up w/ the money... Anyone up for another COTH BB adoption? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Should I sound them out?

Truly guys, this horse is gorgeous and he's only a 5 y/o... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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[War Admiral]

Just crossposted to Exracers.

Look how neatly his mane is pulled. Somebody somewhere loffed him. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

If anyone can think of other places to crosspost, please PT me. I'll do the work if you'll tell me where to go!

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[Silk]

Surely somthing can be done! COTH people have done everything from tracked down an ebay scammer to savinf abused dogs. surely someone knows something if we keep this bumped up!

**&gt;&gt;It's not bragging if you can back it up!&lt;&lt;**

[OneonOne]

I posted it on the Tack Room - many there are COTHers, too, but there are some who don't read here.

[AJHorsey]

I'm sure they have done this, but what about checking in with the state health dept? You know, when they do the coggins bloodwork, the paper asks for a tatoo #, if any. (I always put my horses numbers down for IDing) Since This guy does have a tatoo, then maybe they would have the owners name. If not by #, then by description. Yeah- I know there are a lot of horses out there who get this done, but it's worth a shot if each vet office can take a peek into their clients.
I know if my horses were stolen, and they were to "escape" out of state, or farther away, then I would be a wreck to find out they had been auctioned off! There are also volunteer programs/ foster homes where people can care for him for a while longer, right?
Poor Fella!

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[lilblackhorse]

do we know when the auction will be? I wonder if Flying changes has/had time to get it in the magazine....I think their deadline is the 7of of the month unfortunately. They'd be a great source too. He does look well taken care of, doesn't he?

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[Eventer55]

Maybe I missed something in the posts, but yes you can trace a horse by it's tattoo!! I did just that and found the trainer, breeder and last owner when he was on the track. Find the last known owner and start there. Call the tattoo people and get the info on the horse.

This is all too strange and maybe sad.

"When Allah created the horse he said. . . Thou shalt fly without wings and conquer without sword."

[Sakura]

If the horse has a name plate you would think it might be as easy as calling all of the local vet offices to see if they have a record of this horse being a patient of theirs. My fear (and I am prone to thinking the worst) is that the owner of this horse may have been injured or killed while perhaps fetching him from the pasture... hunting accident, the horse may have spooked, you name it ... Have there been any missing persons reports filed at/around the same time this horse was found?

[afrikando]

i understand that the owner still has not been found and the horse is scheduled to go to auction in marysville, wa tomorrow. i'm steamed because i'm in atlanta and won't be back home until tomorrow night.

if you want to talk to someone about him, call katie at second chance ranch in maple valley. her email is katie@mybluedog.com. her phone number is posted on the barn's website at www.secondchanceranch.org (http://www.secondchanceranch.org)

[Lord Helpus]

Summit,

That scenario is all too possible, as I reminded myself the other day when one of the horses I was bringing in let fly with hooves and missed my head by inches. I live by myself and was thinking that I could have been laying out int he snow for several days before I was found.

But, with all the publicity that has been put out about this horse, I would think that a friend of the owner would recognize him and call to see if the owner was all right.

I am betting that this horse was stolen from another state, and only the Internet can spread the word wide enough to have a hope of finding the true owner.

I don't suppose anyone has ridden this horse to find out what his specialty might be and then hone in on trainers in that discipline?

If someone wants to bid on him for me, I would buy him. Anyone close enough to go to the auction?

[lilblackhorse]

but how big is the horse community there-I would assume pretty big, but close knit. Somebody by now would have known someone who knew someone kind of thing, wouldn't you think? someone would have been missed or noticed their horse missing.

It's just too weird that if the horse was local, that noone knows anything about him. Very sad....I am not in the seattle area, but how well has this been published up there?? Has it been all over the news and do the barns all know about it?

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[Xhltsalute]

To answer a couple of the above questions......it's my understanding that the horse is 5 years old and will not go to auction till February 3.

[M Martin]

I wonder if they checked to see if the horse is microchipped?

This time of year it is quite possible the owner could be on vaccation for three weeks and doesn't know the horse is missing. But then the caretaker of the horse would be trying to claim him. or atleast I hope so!

I'm betting he was stolen and got loose. Probably from another state, and his halter probably isn't even his. My dog doesn't even wear her own collar, it's from three dogs ago with the other dogs name on it. Any horse theif would not be dumb enough to leave the horses real name on the halter!
Another problem is that often people don't call their horse by their registered name and might have a halter plate with a name that doesn't match registration (reason that REALLY bugs me!-real names should be on halter plates for this very reason)
I think if the horse was from WA someone would have claimed him by now. This is to tight knit of a community where everyone knows everyones business.
I just hope he doesn't auction off for meat. That would be a real shame.

M

[EponaRoan]

I've posted info on him to the ROAN list and BB, Bighorse2 (TB breeding discussion group on yahoogroups) and the Pedigree Query BB.

I also dropped an email to the WA TB Breeders Association although I would think they'd already be aware of the situation.

Also just forwarded the info to Equine-L and Derby list.

Pat
http://www.quarterpole.com

[This message was edited by EponaRoan on Jan. 19, 2004 at 02:15 PM.]

[Kimberlee]

I guess I am wondering if during the bad weather that maybe a fence came down and he got loose? Can't beleive anyone not realizing that their horse is missing though. Man, I know the second that one of them is getting upset about something. I hope the owners find him, can you imagine how upset they probably are right now?

If wishes were horses... I would be sooooooo happy!!

[onetempies]

Kimberlee... that could be possible (fence) BUT the horse was trailing a lead rope with chain attached to his halter.

Hence the possiblities of owner either leading him in and got knocked a good one OR horse got away from a thief.

At any rate... it IS a nice horse and lookee that BUTT!!!!

Wonder if all the local vet offices have been contacted with info and flyers posted in there? Any large animal hospitals in the area? What about horse show associations that could put out a mass email to their members?

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[Eventer55]

Just another thought, as this is very upsetting. I keep thinking someone out there is desperate to find their horse, not knowing. . . . Anyway, how about Canada? Washington is close to Canada and he may have been trucked down from Canada.

"When Allah created the horse he said. . . Thou shalt fly without wings and conquer without sword."

[Thoroughbred1201]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This is EXACTLELY what I was hoping for when I posted this here. Lots and lots of cross posting and interest. This horse has been in lots of newspapers for the last couple of weeks in NW Washington, and I guess plastered all over TV last Saturday. He's been at a foster home for about three weeks, then just moved to the Marysville auction barn last week.

As for bidding on him, I think that there is going to be a BIG crowd. He is lovely, and obviously very well cared for. My understanding is that there has been a great deal of effort put into finding his owner, and, as a guess, the lastest influx of publicity is yet another attempt.

As for Canada, we are very close to the border, however it does take an effort to get a horse across. Everybody around here has their own particular horror story about it. I don't know how easily a theif could have smuggled a horse across.

Keep spreading the word! I keep an eye out for the auction as well, and try to post anything I hear.

[fernie fox]

Yea!!!got this from UDBB.


UPDATE - Horse is from Canada, raced for 3 years, is named Flying Algonquian. They have identified his owners but have not been able to contact them and he will not go to auction.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Xhltsalute]

WOW, FF............you sure got my post over here fast. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Just wanted to add that the horse is originally from Canada and his current owners live in Snohomish.

[Lord Helpus]

Where are his owners? Have they been away all this time? Who identified him? Is he a racehorse or a sport horse?

Inquiring minds want to know DETAILS!

[fernie fox]

Me too L.H.,

can't wait to hear the rest of the story.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[lilblackhorse]

oh wow! That is positively awesome news. I can't wait to hear how it all turns out. I am glad he will be going home, poor horse.

However-it sure makes you worried when you think how easy it is for horses to come back and forth over the border that way, eh?

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[Lord Helpus]

When I was living in Oregon, the horse that a girl was going to take to Spruce Meadows came up lame at the last minute. Another person offered her a horse to ride, and she thankfully accepted the loan. All went well and she got some ribbons on the loaner horse, and they went over the border in both directions with no trouble.

Only *trouble* was that her horse (which had the coggins and health certificate) was a gelding with a star, and the loaner horse was a mare with a blaze. Did the customs people notice? Nah....

[lilblackhorse]

those were probably the same border people who looked at our kids in the back seat last time we went to Canada and asked if they were our kids....the girl looks just like me, and the boy? Carbon copy of the husband...go figure.

I'd be the one who got stopped with the right horse and all the papers and would be hassled.

ps, where did you live in Oregon?

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[Cherry]

Well, that solves the mystery of how the horse got to the United States--he flew!!! ("Flying" Algonquin http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif ) Sorry, just could not resist that one!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

The Canadian Border Patrol??? You mean the guys that left the terrorists into the U.S.--that border patrol??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"Everything looks good until you start to examine it!!!", uttered by me on more than one occasion

[Thoroughbred1201]

We've gone through the border just fine several times, but have also been with a trainer who was turned back on return from a horse show because he wasn't the owner of the horses. Had the correct paperwork, etc.

Another time, a newly purchased horse was turned back. I've also heard of people who have had to unload and unwrap their horses for inspection. It can be easy; it can also be a complete nightmare.

[EponaRoan]

Here's an update from Debi Metcalfe of NetPosse on the situation with a few more details.

From: idahonc@aol.com
Subject: [netposse] WA TB FOUND horse's owner info has been located!!! Thanks to all who helped.

http://www.netposse.com/stolenmissing/whereisowner/foundWAdec03.htm Found Horse in Lake Stevens area of WA State. Do you know this horse?

I received this info tonight on the horse above who was found in the WA area. Thanks to all who were involved sending the info out to your friends, sending emails, making phone calls etc. This one is on the way to having a happy ending I hope! I talked to the man mentioned below and he gave me more info on the situation and noted that many people were involved in helping in Stretch's plight. He was also quick to say a thank you goes out to many.

This is an excerpt from an email: Hi Debi - at last, with the efforts of our President of the Washington Thoroughbred Breeders Association working in conjunction with the TRPB who does the actual tattooing and keeps the records for the horses; we have a name!

This from the President: The tattoo research yielded the breeders name, who when contacted told who Stretch was sold too. Contact with this couple has not been made as of this time but not because people are not trying. Maybe they are out of town or something. Anyway, once contact is made with them hopefully Stretch will be returned home. That is where Stretch's road home is at them present. At this time if the owner cannot be found Stretch is scheduled to be auctioned at the Marysville auction Feb. 3.

Again thank you all NetPosse volunteers. Keep these quotes in mind as you go about your day tomorrow. I live by them.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world...indeed, it is the only thing that ever has!" -- Margaret Mead
and
"Never underestimate the power of one."

Debi Metcalfe
Horse Theft Education Starts Here
Stolen Horse International
http://www.netposse.com/

Pat
http://www.quarterpole.com

[PaulaM]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cherry:
The Canadian Border Patrol??? You mean the guys that left the terrorists into the U.S.--_that_ border patrol??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, Cherry, in order to get across the border into the states, you only have to go through US Customs, not Canadian customs, border controls, etc. Only coming into Canada do you have to go through Canadian controls (ie customs officials, immigration, etc).

[War Admiral]

Wow, what GREAT news that they found the owner.

OTOH - I do not tolerate ANY dissing of the border patrol without kicking the traces over bigtime. Here is why:

When I was a kid, my old War Admiral gelding was stolen from me in Mass. Fortunately his cagey old race trainer thought to contact the U.S. Border Patrol - which would never have occurred to me as a frantic, desperate, tearful 18 y/o kid who had just lost her very best friend.

Long story short - THE U.S. BORDER PATROL FOUND HIM, on a vanload crossing into Canada via Detroit, indisputably headed toward slaughter.

I make it a point to tell this story to customs agents whenever I pass through. It's 30 years later and I still cannot begin to express my gratitude to these hard-working people. Unless you have actually HAD a horse stolen, you cannot imagine the overwhelming relief, joy and gratitude I felt when I got that phone call.

U.S. BORDER PATROL ROCKS. I will loff them forever. So if it takes you a little longer to get through at the border, TOUGH. Quit complaining. There is probably a really good reason.

So there.

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[Eventer55]

Wow, the horse WAS from Canada, maybe I can go on the psychic pet hotline. . . all kidding aside, I am so happy for the horse and owners. Please keep us up-dated when the horse is returned and what happened.

"When Allah created the horse he said. . . Thou shalt fly without wings and conquer without sword."

[fernie fox]

I see a lot of horse transporters going down I 95,with the centre doors open.

I often wonder if any of the horses ever get loose and jump out of those trucks.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[lilblackhorse]

war admiral, I am sorry if my post offended you-I was referring mainly to the post where the person said they hauled a mare in for a gelding which didn't look at all alike and it was allowed through. I have no idea how they check horses at the border, I have never taken my horse to Canada. Those that go up to event whom I know have a whole ton of ID and brand inspections. My querry was more how they inspect and how was a stolen horse allowed through? I am glad however in YOUR particular case that your horse was stopped-I would be not all horses are that lucky. Obviously this is an issue close to your heart-my point was more that it seems there are some problems at the Washington/BC border.(near my house)

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[onetempies]

Well, hopefully they can actually TALK to the owner soon and find out more details!

At any rate... so glad that things seem to be coming to a wonderful ending!

*Member of the bad shoulder clique* (open surgery was 1-6-03)
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Owned by LT Parfait 1985 Arab Mare, Valboa's Mercedes 1991 Holsteiner/TB cross, and L Chevelle 2003 Holsteiner colt.
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Chevy weaned at 4.5 months (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jan/2004191087185574605344.jpg)
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Chev 7 month butt shot & Parfait (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Dec/200312258180889950365790.jpg)
Chev 7.5 months, blurry, but acting studly (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Dec/200312254841657978703941.jpg)

[Glimmerglass]

Interest Kicks Up Around Homeless Horse

January 20, 2004 Associated Press

SNOHOMISH, Wash. (AP)- A well-groomed thoroughbred found wandering along a country road about a month ago has been identified as a retired racehorse from Canada.

Horse racing officials are trying to determine who owns Flying Algonquin, a 7-year-old dark bay gelding who could be sold at the Marysville Livestock Auction as early as Feb. 3 if he is not claimed.

The horse, nicknamed Stretch, may be getting more attention now than when it was running. In six races, all at Hastings Park in Vancouver, British Columbia, Flying Algonquin won once and finished second once for career earnings of $8,160.

In late 2002 or early 2003, a couple in British Columbia sold the thoroughbred to a couple in Snohomish as a non-racehorse, said Ralph Vacca, general manager of the Washington Thoroughbred Breeders Association.

Vacca said Monday that the purchasing couple had not returned his calls and he does not know if they still own the horse. The spot where the horse was found is about five miles from their home.

Vacca, who identified the horse through a tattoo in its mouth, said he talked to the Canadian couple Monday and described them as "very concerned" that Flying Algonquin could wind up at a rendering plant.

A wildfire of interest in horse circles has made that virtually impossible, he said.

"That horse is going to find somebody who is willing to pay a good sum of money and cherish and love (him), and the story of the horse that was found wandering will probably take on a life of its own," Vacca said.

"There's no chance that this horse will end up in any glue factory," he said. "If it does go to auction, everybody in the state is going to be there."

[galadazed]

Gee are they not worried about the owner???

And thanks Paula http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif It saved me a bunch of furious typing! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[BaldEagle]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cherry:
The Canadian Border Patrol??? You mean the guys that left the terrorists into the U.S.--_that_ border patrol??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cherry

Wich terrorists are you referring to ?

As PaulaM already posted, border services control incoming people, not those that leave the country. That's why in certain cases a visa is needed (to give time for background checks)

Your statement seems to ignore where the terrorists really came from, where they were and what they were doing prior to the attack.

I leave a link below so you can update your info about the incident. All of them were in the States, allowed by US, some with visas provided by your INS. Some of them are presumed to have used ID from other people but, in fact, the US "Immigration and Naturalization Services" issued an "extension" of a "study permit" to one of the hijackers, two months after his death in one of the planes that hit the towers...

Nobody was expecting anyone to be so stupid and do a thing like that. Everybody was caught of guard... including the masterminders !!!
Do you think that if they knew what was about to fall on their heads afterwords they dared to do it ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_Terrorist_Attack/Hijackers

Edited to add another link with related news, fresh from today, adding to how, when and from where they entered the US. This one is already paying the costs. Free room and board at Guantanamo Bay resort http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/20/terror/main594508.shtml


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[Xhltsalute]

Just out of curiosity..........who ever said the horse was STOLEN from Canada? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[War Admiral]

lilblackhorse - DEFINITELY no offense taken, I just can't help posting the opp. when I hear people bashing on customs/border patrol! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sounds to me as if the owners of the horse MUST be out of town (surely they must http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif) - hope they get back in time to "claim" their boy or they may be in for a wicked surprise come Feb. 3.

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[lilblackhorse]

it's surprising that noone where the horse lives has any way of contacting the owners. I too think they must be out of the country, or they would have heard about this. Pity they can't contact some barns inthe area so the owners numbers can be called so maybe they CAN be home by the 3rd. Sad....

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[risingstarfarm]

Can you imagine leaving your home/farm for a vacation and the person taking care of your horses NOT knowing how to contact you?????? Yikes.

Ronda
www.risingstarfarm.net (http://www.risingstarfarm.net)

[EponaRoan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by risingstarfarm:
Can you imagine leaving your home/farm for a vacation and the person taking care of your horses NOT knowing how to contact you?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which brings up the question - if the owners are away, why isn't the person in charge of the horse(s) contacting the authorities?

Tis a mystery indeed. The Case of Flying Algonquian.

Pat
http://www.quarterpole.com

[Jane]

Found a pic of Flying Algonquian's tatoo.

Flying Algonquin (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040120/483/waeve10201201919)

Definitely a very interesting story, can't wait to see what we might hear in the next two weeks. It would be truely bizarre if no one claims him soon....even if the owner's away, someone else would have to recognize the horse... barn workers, vet, farrier, etc?

[Eventer55]

Ok this is all too weird. If they know who the owners are, then why don't they contact the person taking care of the horse?? Or, stake out the farm and wait for someone to come home.
Someone has to know where the owners are.

"When Allah created the horse he said. . . Thou shalt fly without wings and conquer without sword."

[Thoroughbred1201]

To Baldeagle regarding you reply to Liliblackhorse regarding her comments on the border crossing: We have had more issues here on the Washington/Canadain border than just 9/11 - in December 1999 a terrorist was caught in Port Angeles with a carload of explosives, for one example. We've definately had a couple pretty major episodes!

I'm glad they have identified the horse. When this was all first breaking and the news was commenting about the quality horse being auctioned off, my trainer commented that he was probably going to be the most expensive 'lost property' auction in a long while! I have to agree with the article - most of Washington State will be there!

[Kellsboro Jack]

Daily Herald (Everett, WA) 1/20/04: "Thoroughbred identified but still homeless" (http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/04/1/20/18061893.cfm)

excerpt:

"So far, the Snohomish couple haven't returned calls or tried to claim the horse, so authorities don't know if they still own him or sold him to someone else.

They also did not return a call Monday from The Herald.

Snohomish police had no reports of missing horses that fit the well-groomed, shoeless horse, so he remains a ward of the state."

[Layne Farm]

ok my question is if they have found the owners but have not got in touch with them yet. Can't they hold the horse till they do? Who has the horse now and taking care of him? Cant a farm take him in 1st before they acution him?

Ashley
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[Eventer55]

Who was taking care of the horse? Why doesn't he/she take the horse home to the farm?
Inquiring minds want to know.

"When Allah created the horse he said. . . Thou shalt fly without wings and conquer without sword."

[Glimmerglass]

Published: Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Homeless horse might still be sold at auction

By Cathy Logg
Herald Writer

MARYSVILLE -- A retired racehorse remains without a pasture to claim as his own, and still could be sold at auction in two weeks.

Flying Algonquin, a 7-year-old thoroughbred gelding found about a month ago wandering on a road near Lake Stevens, remains unclaimed, although a recent owner has been located.

The horse, which was bred in Aldergrove, B.C., raced for three years in Vancouver, B.C., before his breeders sold him to a Snohomish couple. They were dealing with some family issues at the time and passed the horse on to a Sultan-area woman so he would have a good home. That woman likewise gave the horse to someone else.

Authorities haven't yet traced the horse to its most recent owner. No one claimed Flying Algonquin on Tuesday at the Marysville Livestock Auction, where he remains as a ward of the state and is still scheduled to be sold on Feb. 3, said auction manager Julie Edmondson.

The Snohomish couple kept the gelding's registration papers, and now must decide whether to let him be auctioned or try to reclaim him.

"There's been so many people who would love to take the horse and give it a good home," said Ralph Vacca, general manager of the Washington Thoroughbred Breeders Association.

Among those are at least two thoroughbred rescue associations that place retired racehorses with adoptive families or provide a farm where they can live out their later years.

Vacca has fielded calls from as far away as North Carolina and Texas from people interested in Flying Algonquin, and news agencies as far away as Ottawa, Ontario, the Canadian capital, are pursuing stories on "Stretch" -- the nickname on his halter.

"This is a young horse, this is not an old, broken-down horse. He probably has a good life ahead of him," Vacca said.

Horses at auction are sold for cash and as is, he said.

"You see what's in the ring, and what you see is what you get. You can't come back three weeks later and say, 'This horse was supposed to jump over the moon, and he didn't,'" Vacca said.

Reporter Cathy Logg: 425-339-3437 or logg@heraldnet.com.

[lilblackhorse]

Oh, that sheds a lot of light on the situation. Hmmm-it sounds like people have had a hard time wanting to keep him, especially the folks from Snohomish who have the papers and gave him up.

It almost sounds like he'd be better off being auctioned to someone who would really want and use him and love him instead of him having to change homes so often. Poor Stretch.

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[DarkerHorse]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thoroughbred1201:I've also heard of people who have had to unload and unwrap their horses for inspection. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL that isn't a dumb thing for them to make you do, though. Who knows WHAT you can hide in wraps..

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[Xhltsalute]

OK, so now we know he's had 3 "owners" in the last year. That still doesn't explain why he was found running down a road with a halter & lead line 5 miles from the original owners location. Very strange!

[SweatySaddlepad]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Xhltsalute:
OK, so now we know he's had 3 "owners" in the last year. That still doesn't explain why he was found running down a road with a halter & lead line 5 miles from the original owners location. Very strange!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It does sound very, very strange http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif. With all this coverage I'm sure he'll get a good home, at least that's a plus.

[Kimberlee]

I second the curiosity as to why he was found loose 5 miles from original owners home. Why was he loose that is the question I want answered. I think that if he does go to auction with all the people involved he will get a good home. Personally I prefer him to go to one of the rescue groups so that they could make sure that the horse went to a good home, but, ah well, that is the way life goes...

If wishes were horses... I would be sooooooo happy!!

[Estelle]

UPDATED....Check this link...
Lost Horse (http://wcco.com/water/watercooler_story_020093602.html)

I hope someone has gone to check on these people to make sure they are ok...I have to wonder..

Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves for we shall never cease to be amused.--Erin Mack

[Estelle]

Never mind my update..see it's been covered here already...sorry bout that.

Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves for we shall never cease to be amused.--Erin Mack

[Glimmerglass]

The Ottawa Citizen had an article from Wed (1/21) that shows a current full picture of Flying Algonquin.

The Ottawa Citizen: 1/21/04 "Mystery horse becomes celebrity" (http://www.canada.com/vancouver/news/story.asp?id=F8EEE2D8-986B-440E-9385-C3A7725871F6)

Excerpt:

"Stretch looked like a show horse. He didn't have a shaggy winter coat, which suggested he had been wearing a blanket, his muzzle and mane had been clipped and he appeared to have some training in dressage -- manoeuvres involving change of pace and gait."

[snip]

"Brandt and her husband Fred spent a few months retraining him as a show horse and sold him to a couple in the Snohomish area.

But the woman found Flying Algonquin was not an appropriate mount for her, said Ralph Vacca, general manager of the Washington Thoroughbred Breeders Association. After failing to find a buyer, the couple gave Stretch to a horse agent.

The Snohomish couple had been away and hadn't heard that Stretch had been wandering, said Vacca. So far, there has been no explanation for why the horse agent hadn't noticed the publicity about the horse."

[AJHorsey]

Hmmm... Not sure I kow what to think about this poor horses situations right now. Poor guy! He looks well cared for, and I am sure that through the auction he will find an awesome home- wish I were out that way!

Standardbred lover- owner of Studs Hooligan, aka Strider, ex- pacer, retrained for eventing
Proud member of the Riders of Rohan!
Strider's web site! http://home.woh.rr.com/thepetroskys/StriderWebPage.htm

[M Martin]

The article says he was passed on to a Sultan person. Sultan is 16 miles from Snohomish! Down a two lane busy hwy and the town of Monroe. This horse was most likely boarded in Snohomish.
Didn't the barn owner notice him missing???

[Thoroughbred1201]

Yes! As a friend of mine commented; if you go out with grain in hand, and the horse is missing - you think maybe you'd wonder where he went!

[hoopoe]

Boy I would really like to know the name of that "agent"

To say that there are a dozen people interested in this horse is a huge understatement. The auction yard wont know what hit it.

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The ancient Greeks did not write obituaries. They only wanted to know if you had a passion.

[Piper]

Does anyone have an update?

[Eventer55]

Ditto to Piper.

"When Allah created the horse he said. . . Thou shalt fly without wings and conquer without sword."

[AJHorsey]

*BUMP*
How's the pony doing?

Standardbred lover- owner of Studs Hooligan, aka Strider, ex- pacer, retrained for eventing
Proud member of the Riders of Rohan!
Strider's web site! http://home.woh.rr.com/thepetroskys/StriderWebPage.htm

[Glimmerglass]

Nothing news wise has been published recently, although today their local paper had a letter to the editor chastising the woman/persons who "own" the horse now:


Daily Herald (Everette, WA) 1/29: "Owner should come forward, claim horse" (http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/1/29/18076502.cfm)

[afrikando]

i wonder if an insurance claim as been filed on this horse. if that's the case, the owner will not come forward. happily, the marysville auction manager reports that she's been inundated with calls from people wanting to buy him.

are any local folks going up on the 3rd to attend the auction? i'm probably going to go---i'd love to meet some fellow COTHERS.

[hoopoe]

I still want to know the whole story.

This horse was sent to a sale agent where he escaped???

I want to know who was so irresponsible and who will not step forward.

The horse community here is huge, Snohomish County is one of the most horse populated counties in the USA.

The guilty person cannot hide forever. I myself would respect the truth, rather than lies and secrets.

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The ancient Greeks did not write obituaries. They only wanted to know if you had a passion.

[Horses4sport]

I am absolutely floored by this story. I can't believe that someone, anyone, doesn't know something!!! For goodness sake, a neighbor? Friend? of the perpetrator...would love to know who is the missing owner. Hope it comes to light sometime and they are fined like crazy.

That poor horse has been through a lot since he left the track. I hope he finds a good, lifetime home at last. He deserves it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

*Amy*

Proudly owned by Goldsboro (Ben), Wizard, Sagenhaft (Tyler), Ben's brother, Sedona; and the mighty mini, Mountain Meadows Alladdin!

***Wow! That list of horses is getting a little too long!***

[Horses4sport]

I also would like to say that IF the owner did come forward, they no longer should have a right to this animal!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

*Amy*

Proudly owned by Goldsboro (Ben), Wizard, Sagenhaft (Tyler), Ben's brother, Sedona; and the mighty mini, Mountain Meadows Alladdin!

***Wow! That list of horses is getting a little too long!***

[Xhltsalute]

Just got the following e-mail from nwriders_united (yahoo group):

"I spoke to the office at the Marysville auction, Stretch is going to be auctioned on Tues February 3, with the permission of the owners. So if you are concerned about this horse, go to the auction next Tues and bid on him."

I still want to know "the rest of the story" and wonder how people can allow something like this to happen to an innocent critter. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Maybe more info can be obtained by attending the auction.

[A Splash of Color]

Bump

Joan S.
Photo Albums, including early 1980s Grand Prix (http://community.webshots.com/user/jsflwr)

[Glimmerglass]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Xhltsalute:
I still want to know "the rest of the story" and wonder how people can allow something like this to happen to an innocent critter.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, to me it sounds like an auction is the best thing for him. Clearly, the legal owner who has abandoned the horse and claims of “title” is incapable of retaining ownership. The sooner the horse is away from that person/persons the better. What would be horrible is if they came forward said “sorry” and took him home without anyone legally being able to stop it.

So why is the horse's sale at dispersal such a horrible thing? There is such a level of interest that he will be priced well above the "meat market" level and almost guaranteed to be acquired by someone with a soft heart for him. I am missing the 'why' for any outrage associated with the auction.

[afrikando]

i agree, glimmerglass. i would be horrified if this horse went back to his "owner." i bet this boy will go for multi-thousands. maybe even to me...!

[hoopoe]

afrikando are you bidding???!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Best wishes to you. I too am hoping this horse goes to someone who wants to give it a forever home.

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-- * &gt; hoopoe
The ancient Greeks did not write obituaries. They only wanted to know if you had a passion.

[onetempies]

I agree, it sounds like the auction may be the best thing. Highly doubt that the horse will go for kill with how much interest has erupted since the story came out about this boy. Maybe he'll finally get a LOVING home for LIFE. Poor guy.

Whoever goes to the auction... PLEASE update us on what happens and where he will be going. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

*Member of the bad shoulder clique* (open surgery was 1-6-03)
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Trying to be Superman at 4 months (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jan/2004193796910058858134.jpg)
Chevy weaned at 4.5 months (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jan/2004191087185574605344.jpg)
Boy with an attitude at 7 months & arab with no ears (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Dec/200312258578373322938620.jpg)
Chev 7 month butt shot & Parfait (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Dec/200312258180889950365790.jpg)
Chev 7.5 months, blurry, but acting studly (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Dec/200312254841657978703941.jpg)

[Bumpkin]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by afrikando:
i agree, glimmerglass. i would be horrified if this horse went back to his "owner." i bet this boy will go for multi-thousands. maybe even to me...!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Remember: You're A Customer In A Service Industry."
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[Xhltsalute]

If you're speaking to my comment, Glimmer, my anger is directed at the owner, not the fact the horse is being auctioned. Hopefully, he will find a kind, knowledgeable, loving horseperson of his very own. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[War Admiral]

Ohhhh I hope some of us go and bid!! He really deserves an awesome home. And the owners... well... let's just say I hope they get what they deserve. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif

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--George Morris

[fernie fox]

I think he'll fetch between $1 and $2000.

Unless a huge crowd turns up and it ends up in a bidding war.

He doesnt have papers.

But of course we know who he is.

Maybe it will be possible to get his papers.

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[War Admiral]

You think???!!! Shoot, at the auctions around here he would go for that even if he were truly cr*p and had not had all the publicity this horse has had... My guess would be in the $3,000 range.

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[hoopoe]

I predict 3000 to 5000 on sentiment alone.

His identity is known and I suspect the Powers that be in the TB community will make sure duplicate papers are made available, for PR purposes alone. Perhaps the last registered owners will hand them over.

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-- * &gt; hoopoe
The ancient Greeks did not write obituaries. They only wanted to know if you had a passion.

[EponaRoan]

Bumping ... Hope some folks from the board can go and report on what happens. Here's hoping for a good home for Flying A with people who want him!

Pat
http://www.quarterpole.com

[afrikando]

i agree with hoopoe---i expect he'll go for around $5K. i'm sure there'll be a bidding war and lots and lots of interest. but i'm going to go JUST in case. now all i need is some tranquilizers so i can deal with being at a horse auction without having a breakdown.

bumpkin---check your PTs!

[Foxhound]

I hope some of the people who go to save this horse will take home another needy equine.

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[War Admiral]

Afrikando, good luck, and please DO keep us posted!!

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"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[Lord Helpus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horses4sport:

That poor horse has been through a lot since he left the track. I hope he finds a good, lifetime home at last. He deserves it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, the horse has had several owners. But maybe we should ask "WHY?" Could he be an incorrigible rear-er? A horse who bolts and runs away with his rider? There is something about this horse which makes people want to send him down the road. (Pun not intended...)

I do not think that he was just turned loose on the highway (if he was, they probably would not have left him there with a good leather halter and shank...) and there is something definitely fishy about this entire story.

But, it might also be interesting to know why several owners in a row had him for such a short time.

No flaming me here. I am NOT saying that he shouldn't have a good home. Every horse deserves a good home. What I am saying is that, just because he was found lose on the road (in good weight, with nicely pulled mane etc) does not mean that he is God's gift to horse-dom. Something he does has caused these people to want to get rid of him.

Before bidding $5,000 out of sentiment, I sure would want to know what it is.

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[amble molly]

Lord Helpus, I have had the same thoughts.... Sometimes you have to read between the lines.

[Horses4sport]

Got this in my email this morning. Stretch does have someone who loves and wants him. I hope she can get him back. I know Cheryl Mendenhall, and this is a legitimate request.

Tonight is the auction for Stretch or Flying Algonquin (previously known as the LOST LAKE STEVENS HORSE) from the Marysville Auction. We are currently collecting pledge money for Erin Porter, the woman who cared for Stretch for a month at her home in Lake Stevens. I just found out yesterday that Erin would really love to buy this horse - and is worried that with all the publicity she will not be lucky enough to have the highest bid. Unfortunately, this is one of the down sides of all the publicity this horse has received, although decidedly there is not enough publicity about horses going to auction.

Erin provided a great home for Stretch, however, Animal Control took the horse from them because the law states that the horse must be sold at auction, since the legal owner was not willing (or able) to come forward, pay impound fees and reclaim the horse. (Please see the note below from Jess Rogalla for more details).

Two hours ago, Bonnie Davis (Snohomish County 4-H leader) posted a note pledging money to further strengthen Erin's auction power tomorrow. Since that time we have collected $200 in pledges and are hoping to help Erin give Stretch the home he deserves, with Erin, the woman who has already shown she can give the horse a great home.

We are soliciting pledges at this time and suggesting that you pass the word as quickly as possible as the auction is tomorrow!!!! Please email or call me with your pledge IMMEDIATELY.

If Erin posts the winning bid tomorrow - YOU WILL NEED TO SEND ME YOUR CHECK IMMEDIATELY - as she will need to pay for the auction tomorrow.

I will be home tomorrow - please feel free to call - or email any questions, comments, suggestions!

Thank you in advance for your generosity and support on Stretch and Erin's behalf.

cheryl mendenhall
mcgee3@earthlink.net
360/568-9513 or 425/344-760
Horse Project Leader
(moderator 4-Hhorseleaders@yahoogroups.com)
(moderator WA4-Hhorseleaders@yahoogroups.com)
(moderator SnohomishCounty4-HHorses@yahoogroups.com)
(moderator Hippologers@yahoogroups.com)
Snohomish County, Washington State

note from Jess (2/1/04):
This is the latest on Stretch.

Most of you now know his history; how he was born in British Columbia, raced for 3 years and earned about $8,000 which wasn't enough to keep him racing. So the couple who bred and raced him sold him to a nice couple in Snohomish so the wife could turn him into a saddle horse. For whatever reasons, that didn't work out so they gave him to a lady for a good home (they
thought) well for whatever reason that lady also gave him away to a guy who no one has been able to find.

Fast forward to the night he was found, wandering with a chain wrapped all the way around his nose, bleeding from a gash on his nose and dragging a lead rope. Animal control officers catch him and after asking a local neighbor if they knew the horse, decided to leave him in Erin Porters pasture with anote
on her door since she wasn't home. Imagine Erin's suprise when she got home. If you know Erin you know she has a big heart and something in Stretch connected with her too. She lovingly cared for him for a month, bought a barn full of hay and grain, got him a blanket and its fun to hear her tell stories of gaining his trust enough to get him to put that blanket on, etc.

Fast forward again to her husband, resting on the sofa a month later after a root canal. Dogs barking bring him to the door in time to see Animal Control loading stretch into their trailer to haul him off to Marysville without so much as a "thanks alot" or "Mother may I?"

Well, some folks might be relived of the responsiblity. Obviously whoever localy lost Stretch that nite hasn't wanted to claim him either. But Erin is breaking her heart over this horse, worrying about where he will end up next and really really wants to keep him and give him that loving home that everyone thought he was getting several times, owners ago. The sad part is the city, and the law, says he has to go to auction! Too bad he wasn't a bag
of money or a diamond ring because after 30 days it would automatically belong to Erin. But the city and the auction house are the ones who will benefit on this go round. Too bad for Stretch who finally, after suffering the wisdom of humans, went and found his own person who loves him for what and who he is.

Tommorrow, when Erin bids what little they can afford after all they've already spent on Stretch, I will personally be very mad at whoever bids against her!!!!

Lets see if Erin can finally bring Stretch home. They both deserve a happy ending.

Best Wishes, Jess

*Amy*

Proudly owned by Goldsboro (Ben), Wizard, Sagenhaft (Tyler), Ben's brother, Sedona; and the mighty mini, Mountain Meadows Alladdin!

***Wow! That list of horses is getting a little too long!***

[OneonOne]

If anyone goes to the auction today, I'd love to hear an update!

[afrikando]

hey amy---can you confirm cheryl's 425 number (it's missing a digit)? i just called the home number and got a machine. if she'd set up a paypal account, interested folks could deposit a donation for erin. if she doesn't win, the deposits could be refunded very easily.

thanks!
lori

[Horses4sport]

Great idea, Lori! I copied straight from the message, so I don't have that #...did you leave a phone message at the home #?

She was very prompt to respond to my first email this morning. I pledged. I want this horse to go back to that woman! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

*Amy*

Proudly owned by Goldsboro (Ben), Wizard, Sagenhaft (Tyler), Ben's brother, Sedona; and the mighty mini, Mountain Meadows Alladdin!

***Wow! That list of horses is getting a little too long!***

[LoriO]

Definately let us know if they have or can set up a paypal account. I would be willing to kick in a couple of dollars to help Erin keep Stretch.

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**"You are under arrest for operating your mouth under the influence of
ignorance!" MPD Officer Beck
**"Member of the COTH Law Enforcement clique!"
**"Member of the Western clique"

[LisaB]

me too! Please! Get a PayPal account.

[Laurel&HollyFarm]

I am confused http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif (it happens a lot unfortunately http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif) is the auction today or tomorrow?

[Glimmerglass]

The acution would be Tuesday 2/3/04 (today)

Daily Herald (WA) 2/3/04: "Homeless racehorse goes on the auction block today" (http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/2/3/18131778.cfm)

snip: "After he was found, Stretch found a temporary home with a Snohomish County couple who provided the skittish dark bay with a barn, hay, grain and a blanket. Those folks reportedly are among the people who'd like to own him."

Marysville Livestock Auction - Tuesday Sales: Horses (etc) at 4 pm PST (http://www.marysvillelivestockauction.com/homepage1/)

[Lazy Palomino Hunter]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horses4sport:
Most of you now know his history; how he was born in British Columbia, raced for 3 years and earned about $8,000 which wasn't enough to keep him racing. So the couple who bred and raced him sold him to a nice couple in Snohomish so the wife could turn him into a saddle horse. For whatever reasons, that didn't work out so they gave him to a lady for a good home (they
thought) well for whatever reason that lady also gave him away to a guy who no one has been able to find.

Fast forward to the night he was found, wandering with a chain wrapped all the way around his nose, bleeding from a gash on his nose and dragging a lead rope. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Does this scare anyone else? It sounds... very suspicious... sounds like the horse killed him! or maimed him or something... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Alison

Farriers are like cats. They don't like to go out in the rain and they don't come when you call them.

[afrikando]

erin and steve (her husband) have a paypal account. i've requested permission to post the info... please stand by with your fingers crossed for these kind folks!

[afrikando]

ok, here's the post with their paypal info (cross posted w/permission). if you would like to donate, please email cheryl with your pledge amount. she will contact all pledgers as soon as she knows if the porters won stretch back and for how much (and how much is needed). the horse auction starts at 4pm PST. thanks everyone!
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Hello All -

I just got off the phone with Steve Porter, husband of Erin - hopefully soon to be Stretch's new owners. Steve was so grateful to hear of all the efforts and pledges that people have made on their behalf. They are soon to leave to go to the Marysville Auction.

Good News - They have an existing PayPal account, that money can be sent to. The email address for their account is portersworld@hotmail.com. Steve also assures me that they have enough credit to cover their bids this afternoon - however, they will be very grateful for fast payment on your pledges. If you have a PayPal account, you will know how to send payment, if not go to http://paypal.com and follow the directions - OR - you can send them a check (I will post the address in the next email). Current pledges are $1185. The Porters have some money available from family and friends in addition to your pledges.

They will call me from the sale with the results of their bid - and I will get it to all of you ASAP.

Again, thank you everyone - what a wonderful community we belong to.

Take care,
cheryl mendenhall
mcgee3@earthlink.net
Horse Project Leader
(moderator 4-Hhorseleaders@yahoogroups.com)
(moderator WA4-Hhorseleaders@yahoogroups.com)
(moderator SnohomishCounty4-HHorses@yahoogroups.com)
(moderator Hippologers@yahoogroups.com)
Snohomish County, Washington State

[Dancing Lawn]

Oh, I can't stand the suspense. What time is the auction?

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[afrikando]

it starts at 4 pacific time---less than two hours from now.

[Horses4sport]

Ya know, this is a great group of folks here. On another BB that I posted this info, there were a couple of people who wanted to pledge, but mostly there was a bunch of negativity about whether she could afford to care for him, or whether she was skilled enough to handle him. Heck!!! This is really a much more upbeat thread. When it comes to getting the job done, you COTH people ROCK!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

*Amy*

Proudly owned by Goldsboro (Ben), Wizard, Sagenhaft (Tyler), Ben's brother, Sedona; and the mighty mini, Mountain Meadows Alladdin!

***Wow! That list of horses is getting a little too long!***

[hoopoe]

Horse 4 sport, I saw that

happy to report I gave, and hope all goes as planned.

_\\]
-- * &gt; hoopoe
The ancient Greeks did not write obituaries. They only wanted to know if you had a passion.

[Bumpkin]

I will pledge also.
Will find out tomorrow if she is successful.

"Remember: You're A Customer In A Service Industry."
"Proud Member Of The I Love Dublin, Starman Babies,and SunnieFlax Cliques"

[RHdobes]

Personally, I think Erin and her husband should send a detailed bill for Stretch's "boarding" expenses to Animal Control--SUCH LACK OF CLASS, it showed, for taking Stretch as it did.

[BlackWatchLady]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thoroughbred1201:
We have an interesting story here in Western Washington State right now. A throughbred was found on the road in the Lake Stevens area wandering loose. An obviously well cared for horse, wearing what the news termed an expensive leather halter and nameplate, chain, and trailing a lead rope. Nobody has claimed him, and he will be auctioned off next week by the Marysville auction.

All the news media state that the horse is obviously quality, and they have tried for about three weeks to find an owner. He is about 5 years old, and is tattooed.

Anybody have any ideas?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, and he was pulled from the person who was caring for him without a by your leave, or reimbersment. She is going to try to buy him with luck, she will. I feel the horse should be given over to her as the humane society did not pay boarding or feed costs to her.

Tara owned by Boo the wonder pinto
formerly known as IrishGreen
founder of the most embarressing injuries due to falling off horse clique!

[fernie fox]

OH YES YES.

We need a lawyer to write up her bill.

Itemize EVERYTHING,make sure it is at least $25.00 per day

If the humane society or whomever,is getting the money,they must pay her for the time the horse was in her custody.

Boost up that bill. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[redopp]

The Ex-Racers BB says Erin and Steve got him for $1375!!!!!!!!!!

WooooHoooooo!

______________________________

Riding is simple. It just isn't easy.

[Xhltsalute]

I just heard the same news on Channel 5. YIPPPEEEEE! Have fun Erin!

[fernie fox]

I am so happy for stretch and his people. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

fernie fox
"I have lived my life-it is nearly done-.I have played the game all round;But I freely admit that the best of my fun I owe it to Horse and Hound".

[Horses4sport]

YAY!!!! Now everyone needs to just "pony up" with their pledges, I am so happy for Erin and Steve, and especially! STRETCH!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

*Amy*

Proudly owned by Goldsboro (Ben), Wizard, Sagenhaft (Tyler), Ben's brother, Sedona; and the mighty mini, Mountain Meadows Alladdin!

***Wow! That list of horses is getting a little too long!***

[hoopoe]

That is just tooo wonderful.

I wonder if friends and supporters passed the word to keep hands off.

I too wonder where this money is going to go.

Somebody needs to be given a bill for that month of TLC,

But too happy for this family to

_\\]
-- * &gt; hoopoe
The ancient Greeks did not write obituaries. They only wanted to know if you had a passion.

[Madison]

Glad to hear they were the ones who got him and that the bidding didn't get too inflated. If they are going to pursue $$$$ for that month of care, they should definitely wait until they have every last "i" dotted and "t" crossed on his ownership, papers in hand, etc . . . so that the horse doesn't get used as a pawn by the city/county if they fight over the bill. Hopefully this home will stick for Stretch!

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http://community.webshots.com/user/madisonav

[Kryswyn]

That's terrific that Erin & her husband got Stretch.

But I've always thought they should be looking for the body of the person who put that halter and lead on Stretch that day....

~Kryswyn~
"Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"

[Bumpkin]

Woohoo!!!

I am so happy for them.

"Remember: You're A Customer In A Service Industry."
"Proud Member Of The I Love Dublin, Starman Babies,and SunnieFlax Cliques"

[EponaRoan]

Great news! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here's a story on it:
http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/04/2/3/17874095.cfm

Pat
http://www.quarterpole.com

[Dancing Lawn]

I just love a happy ending. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

less hard work, more fine dining.
www.dancinglawnhorses.com (http://www.dancinglawnhorses.com) updated Dec. 29/03

If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[War Admiral]

Me too. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif Best of luck to Erin and Stretch!

______________

"Those who use horses just for the business are crass, classless horsemen."
--George Morris

[onetempies]

GREAT news!!!!

I, too, still wonder where that person is that haltered Stretch that day. So many unanswered questions.

Good news though that Stretch is going to people who know him and love him.

*Member of the bad shoulder clique* (open surgery was 1-6-03)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Owned by LT Parfait 1985 Arab Mare, Valboa's Mercedes 1991 Holsteiner/TB cross, and L Chevelle 2003 Holsteiner colt.
Par & Chev Jan 2004 (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2004225421867581560060.jpg)
Chevy Jolly Ball Wrestling Jan. 2004 (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2004222896107827019834.jpg)
Chevy holding jolly ball Jan. 2004 (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2004225710202742920588.jpg)
Chev trotting 1-27-04 (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2004228828334600501314.jpg)
Chev & Par 1-27-04, snow storm (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2004227573547420832200.jpg)

[Two Toofs]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kryswyn:

But I've always thought they should be looking for the _body_ of the person who put that halter and lead on Stretch that day....
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought I read somewhere, either on a forum or in a link to an article about this guy, that he was being auctioned "with the owner's blessing". I took that to mean that they did get in touch with them, but they didn't want him back.

Two Toofs
(formerly - but still - NDANO)

[afrikando]

here's a link to today's seattle times---it's front page local news and has two photos.

stretch goes home (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001850257_horse04m.html)

[A Splash of Color]

Stretch/Flying Algonquin has been getting lots of press coverage. So far a Google News search (http://news.google.com/news?q=%22flying+algonquin%22&num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&edition=us&filter=0) has 80 hits, including an article in The Thoroughbred Times.

Good luck to Stretch and the Porters!

Joan S.
Photo Albums, including early 1980s Grand Prix (http://community.webshots.com/user/jsflwr)

[Rye]

Did you see in one of the articles that another woman who bought a paint colt, gave the colt to the Porters so Stretch would have a buddy? That was nice of her!