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Gold Dust
Mar. 30, 2004, 03:37 PM
Well, I guess some of you did not read Snowbirds thread about taking this board for granted. This is 13 pages of mostly ridiculous drivel. What does anyone here think these 13 pages are going to do??

"Disaster is the only thing that I can depend on"-
Stevie Nicks

bigbay
Mar. 30, 2004, 03:39 PM
Well, I think the general point was education and awareness, and a few of us were going for world peace, but we must've fallen short of that mark. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"It is good to be fine."

jumper11
Mar. 30, 2004, 03:40 PM
I wasn't questioning your comments sannois, I just wondered the protocal on this board specifically in closing threads?? (in my last post) I was, however questioning seahorsefarms because she did make a lot of questionable statements, and regardless of what she now says, I think she wanted a response. She was stating her opinion, as was I, and blatantly referenced (a few times) how people who use different training methods than hers (inflicting ANY type of pain) on their horses were abusive. Im sorry but there is no way I can keep my mouth shut after reading that garbage.She did actually insinuate that people who use whips and spurs were abusive, not just people who abused them, as well as any poling techniques, etc. ANyways, Janet pretty much summed it up. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gold Dust
Mar. 30, 2004, 03:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbay:
Well, I think the general point was education and awareness, and a few of us were going for world peace, but we must've fallen short of that mark. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

_ "It is good to be fine."_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

World peace, that's gone but I'm sure the COTH poling police will be at the next show running out of the woods!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

"Disaster is the only thing that I can depend on"-
Stevie Nicks

lil devil
Mar. 30, 2004, 03:51 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by bigbay:
Well, I think the general point was education and awareness, and a few of us were going for world peace, but we must've fallen short of that mark.

_ "It is good to be fine."_
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Yep, instead all we got was whirrled peas.

Sannois
Mar. 30, 2004, 03:59 PM
Cool Then we were basically on the same page I guess! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif So many darn posts I cant keep them straight. Someone mentioned snowbirds post. Anyone know the title??

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Benjamin Franklin, 1755
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Janet
Mar. 30, 2004, 04:00 PM
generally, it seems to me that the criteria for closing a thread are
1) if people persist in posting allegations (not supported by print, or court documents) that could be the cause of a legal action against COTH
2) if people persist in posting NOTHING BUT ad hominem attacks, without discussing issues.

In either case, Erin almost always posts a warning "if you don't stop doing X I'll close the thread". Since she hasn't issued such a warning, I assume she considers the "signal to noise ratio" to still be acceptable.

Personally, I haven't seen anybody "tearing to threads" anybody else. Just strongly stating their opinions, and explaining why they think someone else's opinion is misguided. I haven't really seen any ad hominem attacks. Not a tea party, but pretty mild by Internet standards.

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

[This message was edited by Janet on Mar. 30, 2004 at 06:30 PM.]

Flash44
Mar. 30, 2004, 04:15 PM
Some people do this for recreation, and others do it for a living, and for those that do it for a living, it's excusable to do "what it takes to win?" Some owner with several horses took them from a trainer because they weren't winning enough, so now the trainer feels obligated to use questionable practices to ensure the win?

Most of us are held to certain standards as far as productivity and quality are concerned in our occupations. Hell, I got fired from a telemarketing job cuz I sucked! I didn't get a new telemarketing job and engage in questionable practices to keep the job, I went into a new line of work.

Training show horses may look glamorous, but it seems that very few are honestly getting rich doing it, and those that are, usually work really looooong hard hours. Just because someone wants to trainer horses for a living and make good money doing it does not mean they should be given carte blanc as far as training "methods" go.

It's a very gray area, but I think it's pathetic that people use the excuse that the trainer needs to win.

Erin
Mar. 30, 2004, 04:15 PM
Yup, Janet's got it...

I often get emails or posts alerts asking me to close a thread where people are arguing... and really, unless you're debating approved vs. unapproved helmets for the TEN MILLIONTH time, or unless people are just slinging mud at each other, I'm usually just going to let these things die out on their own.

It IS possible to have strong opinions and defend them in a discussion with people who may disagree with you completely. It's even possible to be gently critical of another poster without it becoming a "personal attack," which is prohibited under the rules.

For example, if I say "Jane Doe, I respect your opinion, but I really don't think you're as informed as you could be about this topic, and your hostility toward people who don't agree with you isn't constructive..." blah blah blah, that's part of having a grown up discussion.

Now, saying "Oh yeah, I'll bet you're fat and can't ride!"... that, not so much a part of grownup dialog. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You're welcome to disagree, as long as you do so politely and respectfully. And as long as you don't spill your beer while flipping your horse. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sannois
Mar. 30, 2004, 04:22 PM
LMAO Erin Does it have to be Beer??? How about Some wine! LOL! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Although the wine glass may be a bit tricky! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Benjamin Franklin, 1755
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GatoGordo
Mar. 30, 2004, 04:45 PM
Sannois, I see many people in the eventing world trying to move up the levels too quickly. Are you able to do all or most wine movements easily? Are you utterly disgusted and bored with beer? Are you sure your horse is capable of the move up, too? Are you getting around without any beer penalties? If so, we will let you move up to the 'wine' division. No boxed wine unless jackets are excused, though, and never in recognized competition. Save that for the schooling ring. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Janet
Mar. 30, 2004, 05:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Some people do this for recreation, and others do it for a living, and for those that do it for a living, it's excusable to do "what it takes to win?" Some owner with several horses took them from a trainer because they weren't winning enough, so now the trainer feels obligated to use questionable practices to ensure the win?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If that is aimed at me, that is not what I said, and not what I meant.

What I am willing to do with MY horses is different from what I think is acceptable for someone else to do with their horses. But that doesn't mean that EVERYTHING that someone else does is acceptable. Simply that you have to take the reality of each particular situation into consideration when making your judgement.

For instance, how long do you persist in trying to make a horse suceed at a particular discipline? If you have a horse that has developed a stopping problem, how do you address it (go back to poles on the ground, or ride more aggressively)? And for how long?

If a horse has learned that "the striped poles fall down pretty easily", and has got sloppy in stadium (while still jumping well cross country, so you KNOW it isn't an ability problem or a physical problem), what do you do? Do nothing and hope the horse figures it out before it gets so sloppy it is dangerous? Gymnastics? Solid obstacles? Ride in weakly? Use a heavier pole? Use a plastic tack pole? Turn it into a dressage horse?

IMHO, none of those are, in themselves, "questionable". Each is appropriate in some circumstances, for some horse. Which one is most appropriate depends on the totality of the situation. One aspect of that reality includes the trainer. If someone is paying you to train the horse as an eventer, and it is the horse's ONLY weakness, you might work at it harder, and longer, than if it is your private horse, and you are having problems with cross country too, and you really like dressage, anyway.

"Doing it for a living" doesn't excuse "questionable practices", but it DOES influence which (amonst the acceptable practices) is the most appropriate choice.

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

Lord Helpus
Mar. 30, 2004, 05:06 PM
I just checked back in this thread at p 13 to see what could possibly still need saying that had not already been said 10 times.

And I found it!!!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erin:
Now, saying "Oh yeah, I'll bet you're fat and can't ride!"... that, not so much a part of grownup dialog. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erin, you have made my day.

I had been looking for a new signature line, and I think I have just found it. Of course, I will give you proper credit for your quote. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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"Oh yeah, I'll bet you're fat and can't ride!" --- Erin, Chief Cathearder. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sannois
Mar. 30, 2004, 05:12 PM
Thank you Gordo I needed that!!! LMAO!! And to be honest we have no beer penaltys,I am quite Bored with it however! Are there restrictions on years or Vinyards??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Benjamin Franklin, 1755
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Gold Dust
Mar. 30, 2004, 05:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GatoGordo:
No boxed wine unless jackets are excused, though, and never in recognized competition. Save that for the schooling ring. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually myself, I am more outraged at the use of alcohol in the schooling rings! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

"Disaster is the only thing that I can depend on"-
Stevie Nicks

Erin
Mar. 30, 2004, 05:16 PM
LOL... uh, glad to have been of assistance, LHU! I guess... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Now, who wants to take bets as to how long it takes someone to take that quote completely out of context and claim that I'm showing favoritism and not closing OT threads by skinny people who can't ride? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Flash44
Mar. 30, 2004, 05:27 PM
Nothing was aimed at you, Janet, and I was not trying to paraphrase what you said. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sannois
Mar. 30, 2004, 06:11 PM
LOL Give it time Erin!!! What do you mean no Alcohol in the warm up area??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gifHow else can I get myself on to cross country and get on with the horse flipping!! I supposethe next thing you'll be telling me is that there is a restriction on Colored pantyhose!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Benjamin Franklin, 1755
Founding member of The Fossils over Fences Clique!

ALF
Mar. 30, 2004, 06:17 PM
I think you mean "...and can't ride good"

bigbay
Mar. 30, 2004, 06:29 PM
No worries, horse flipping is a sport for everyone. We just make the people with big heads wear control top pantyhose. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

"It is good to be fine."

Jane
Mar. 30, 2004, 06:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

Now, who wants to take bets as to how long it takes someone to take that quote completely out of context and claim that I'm showing favoritism and not closing OT threads by skinny people who can't ride? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What do you mean "how long it takes"? I've been hearing that about you for sometime now. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Hey, can someone fill me in on the colored panyhose reference? I've seen it made a few times....by eventers I think, but where did it come from?

Sannois
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:10 PM
LOL Jane its from a thread quite some time ago on the eventing board, If I recall someone came on and flamed us about our sport and accused us of flipping horses on Cross Country. I know Erin and TLE will remember! it became a lot of fun Laughed so hard reading the replys!!! Some one help me out! Oh and it involved beer drinking while flipping and wearing pantyhose, LMAO Too fun! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Benjamin Franklin, 1755
Founding member of The Fossils over Fences Clique!

Erin
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:11 PM
Well, I'm not sure where the colored pantyhose reference comes from... although since we're talking about eventers, who yahoo around wearing orange and green and hot pink, I suppose it's appropriate http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ... but the pantyhose reference comes from this thread (http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=6656094911&f=2096094911&m=66160248).

As I recall, Duramax donned pantyhose over head to knock off a liquor store because we were out of beer, and got stuck... Phaxxton pulled the pantyhose off, thus consummating their lesbian relationship and leading to a lovely wedding ceremony around page 24 or so. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

I really must get that thread moved into the favorites section... and yes, it is all VERY tongue-in-cheek, so please don't anyone send me email demanding that the thread be deleted. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

GatoGordo
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:17 PM
Jane, that refers to one of the longest threads in the history of the Eventing Board, other than those about a) Rolex b) debates over whether eventing is safe, sparked by the death of High Scope and others and c) The Amateur Debate. Some poor, (not really), stupid (more likely), mean-spirited troll attempted to get our panties in a wad, but we went right back in his face and gave him the biggest virtual wedgie of all time (he should listen to Robby Johnson's advice). http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Several momentous things happened on this thread, such as the engagement of Mrs. and Mrs. Duramaxxton (in response to a crack at homosexuals). http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

It went on for many pages, solidifying the identity of the drinking, flipping, horse-abusing, troll-hating eventers. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif Here's the link to the first pantyhose reference:
Infamous "none" thread on Eventing (http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=6656094911&f=2096094911&m=66160248&r=18960248#18960248)

Erin, I really, really think this thread should go in "Favorites". http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

"If you hadn't nailed him to the perch, he'd be pushing up the daisies!
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GatoGordo
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:18 PM
Duh, that's what I get for not reading. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

GatoGordo
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:19 PM
P.S. It's harder to drink with tongue in cheek, but we eventers are a hardy, resourceful people.

dogchushu
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:28 PM
So many questions raised by this thread:

Should I flip my horse over a spike pole? tack pole? 2 x 4? Could poling increase my odds of flipping?

I'm fat, but I do ride. Does that help my flipping potential? Or can only skinny riders flip horses?

Panty hose over the head would disturb my perfect hunter hair. Can I flip without panty hose or is that something best left to the pros?

If I can't bring alcohol into the schooling ring, can my trainer? She needs it to watch me ride!



"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison

Jane
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:33 PM
Thanks guys. It will be tough for me to not think Duramax looks like Nicolas Cage and Phaxxton Holly Hunter after this. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I shall check out the thread you guys linked...I don't venture over there often, maybe I will aquire a taste for beer after I'm done. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

bigbay
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dogchushu:
Panty hose over the head would disturb my perfect hunter hair. Can I flip without panty hose or is that something best left to the pros?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, a lot of perfect hunter hair is created with panty hose! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"It is good to be fine."

Jane
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbay:

Actually, a lot of perfect hunter hair is created with panty hose! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

No no, bigbay! You can pile on as many hairnets as you want, but NEVER pantyhose! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Black Market Radio
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:49 PM
That's what I was thinking bb!

That thread has got to be one of the best threads ever.

Actually, I think fat riders have more leverage for horse flipping, while skinny riders excel at the rider fling, you know, when the horse stops at the fence and the rider goes flying? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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bigbay
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by devildog87:
Actually, I think fat riders have more leverage for horse flipping, while skinny riders excel at the rider fling, you know, when the horse stops at the fence and the rider goes flying? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Except at the water jump... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Bigger splashes count for more.

"It is good to be fine."

Black Market Radio
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:54 PM
Ah yes, and there are cannon ball and belly-flop contests as well!

I wonder when they will break down and just fill the water hazards with beer...

Devilpups (http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/angelgregory87)
You have got to be the WORST Pirate I have ever heard of.
Ah, but you HAVE heard of me!

Calico
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:54 PM
the pantyhose/horse-flipping/liquor store robbing thread was the best! It's the only thread I think where the f-bomb was dropped and not deleted, which I find particularly charming http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

bigbay
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erin:
As I recall, Duramax donned pantyhose over head to knock off a liquor store because we were out of beer... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think this should be my new sig line, appropriately credited to Erin, of course. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

"It is good to be fine."

bigbay
Mar. 30, 2004, 07:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by devildog87:
I wonder when they will break down and just fill the water hazards with beer...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


LMAO! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"It is good to be fine."

Duramax
Mar. 30, 2004, 08:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jane:
Thanks guys. It will be tough for me to not think Duramax looks like Nicolas Cage and Phaxxton Holly Hunter after this. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I shall check out the thread you guys linked...I don't venture over there often, maybe I will aquire a taste for beer after I'm done. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmfph!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I got the short end of that deal... why does Phaxxton get to look like Holly Hunter? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

DMK
Mar. 30, 2004, 08:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sannois:
LMAO Erin Does it have to be Beer??? How about Some wine! LOL! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Although the wine glass may be a bit tricky! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If y'all want to dabble in wine, you may have to come over to the REALLY dark side and embrace Pocket Trainer. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The good news is that Pocket Junior handles the holding of the wine glasses and keeping that glass topped off in between your 3 brief show ring appearances in any given day. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I've reached the conclusion that some folks keep it black & white in order to avoid engaging the gray matter...

Erin
Mar. 30, 2004, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbay:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erin:
As I recall, Duramax donned pantyhose over head to knock off a liquor store because we were out of beer... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think this should be my new sig line, appropriately credited to Erin, of course. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

_ "It is good to be fine."_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

All right, surely there must be more interesting people than ME to quote in a sig line! Y'all are going to give me a complex. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Yes yes yes, the infamous "none" thread will have to go into the Favorites section. I still LOL at the "beginner novice of cruelty" post. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

bigbay
Mar. 30, 2004, 09:03 PM
You must already be getting a complex. I'm only going to use it because it mentions Duramax, of course. Sheesh. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"It is good to be fine."

Erin
Mar. 30, 2004, 09:14 PM
dogchushu, I think the appropriate method by which a hunter should execute the flipping maneuver is slightly different. I'm thinking some combination of draw reins, a hunter "perch" and a big ol' dose of reserpine should do the trick nicely! Surely that will be plenty to send your daisy-cutter ass over teakettle! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Jane
Mar. 30, 2004, 09:32 PM
More questions for you eventers: http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Do you think this rider wore the appropriate brand of pantyhose?

And how many beers do you think he/she had?

Lastly, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate that flip?

Flip (http://community.webshots.com/photo/90678477/90678668vWGDoF)

[This message was edited by Jane on Mar. 30, 2004 at 11:43 PM.]

Black Market Radio
Mar. 30, 2004, 09:33 PM
Ah yes, it is the hunters that do the rider fling, since they are all anorexic they get launched pretty darn far! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Devilpups (http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/angelgregory87)
You have got to be the WORST Pirate I have ever heard of.
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LimoWrek
Mar. 30, 2004, 11:47 PM
I'm nuking this one http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Life in the fast lane, rock and roll, and all that good stuff.

Cheers yea thanksalot http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[This message was edited by LimoWrek on Mar. 31, 2004 at 02:47 PM.]

xegeba
Mar. 30, 2004, 11:54 PM
Gosh Limo... those sound like pretty good Irish Car Bombs...

Midge
Mar. 31, 2004, 07:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erin: I'm thinking some combination of draw reins, a hunter "perch" and a big ol' dose of reserpine should do the trick nicely! Surely that will be plenty to send your daisy-cutter ass over teakettle! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, Erin, sweetie, you overestimate me, at least! Rudy would never lower himself to flip, but since I damn near did the hunter fling yesterday at a two foot trot jump, I think just giving the daisy cutter the winter off will produce lots of interesting activity. Of course, all I was utilizing was the hunter perch. I skipped the draw reins and resurpine. Oh, well, tomorrow is another day.

(Don't tell, but I obviously do not have Pocket Trainer as she would have made sure Rudy was LTD before jumping after the winter off.)

*****
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bigbay
Mar. 31, 2004, 11:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jane:
More questions for you eventers: http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Do you think this rider wore the appropriate brand of pantyhose?

And how many beers do you think he/she had?

Lastly, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate that flip?

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[This message was edited by Jane on Mar. 30, 2004 at 11:43 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is truly a great example of a textbook flip. Note how the rider has already ditched his stirrups and is preparing, crop still in hand, for a lovely dive, hands together in the classic knife (or prayer?) form, right into the water. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Erin
Mar. 31, 2004, 12:16 PM
I would score that flip a 9. If the rider had a beer in hand, it'd be a 10. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Black Market Radio
Mar. 31, 2004, 12:27 PM
That has got to be a great flip. Too bad she lost her beer in the beginning. I don't know though, she would get higher points from me if she were to execute a belly-flop! Looks like she could be headed for one though!

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Sannois
Mar. 31, 2004, 12:27 PM
Look How funloving this thread has turned!! Oh and someone asked about the Color Pantyhose reference?? I threw in the color cause I wanted to make sure they didn't ad any new rules! I'm terrible about keeping up with the rule book! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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jumper11
Mar. 31, 2004, 12:34 PM
you guys are too funny.... I'd say though, after enough beer, just about any flip would look good. But that one's ^^ got to be a 10+

Judi
Mar. 31, 2004, 12:43 PM
I for one believe both horse and rider deserve a perfect 10. Rider is excuting a very nice swan dive and horses toes are pointed nicely in a perfect verticle postion. Excellent body position I'd say... 10+.

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PiedPiper
Mar. 31, 2004, 02:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C.Boylen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I can tell you my old eventer only ever brought one rail down at a horse trial. May have gotten eliminated cross country but got jumping in the ring!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well OBVIOUSLY your horse wasn't cut out to be an event horse. Sorry, just kidding, couldn't resist after all the comments about "unsuited" horses in this thread http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.

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You know I was thinking I was opening myself up for that when I wrote it! I am not even touching what is abuse and what isn't. To be honest I was starting to realze that with my guy but now with his injury, completely uncompetition and not human related, the point is now moot. Oh well, bought a CANTER horse to start flipping, crashing and plain out abusing! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Black Market Radio
Mar. 31, 2004, 06:26 PM
Alright PP, FRESH MEAT!!!

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dogchushu
Mar. 31, 2004, 06:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Judi:
I for one believe both horse and rider deserve a perfect 10. Rider is excuting a very nice swan dive and horses toes are pointed nicely in a perfect verticle postion. Excellent body position I'd say... 10+.

http://community.webshots.com/user/stewartjudi&lt;HR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; (http://community.webshots.com/user/stewartjudi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>)

I disagree. I would give the horse a 10, but the rider gets more of a 6. He's severely under-rotated and his hands are in no way going to get a clean break into the water. Plus, look at how bent his legs are--those legs need to be straight! You're going to see a big splash--a definite diving no-no!

But the horse's position is flawless!



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PiedPiper
Mar. 31, 2004, 07:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by devildog87:
Alright PP, FRESH MEAT!!!

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jumperpony_Blaze
Apr. 1, 2004, 04:41 PM
horse flipping? how about a horse flipping multiple people at the same time???

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