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GallopGal
Feb. 22, 2010, 10:00 PM
What kind of helmets do eventers wear? Can you wear the same helmet for dressage, stadium and xc? I will just be doing BN or Novice. Can you post some links for fairly cheap good helmet suggestions.

Thank you!

asterix
Feb. 22, 2010, 10:37 PM
yes, you can wear the same helmet for all three, provided it is certified (anything you wear jumping must be certified).

Generally, eventers are not fashion conscious and will not care WHAT you wear, so you should pick what works for you, as long as it is within the rules.

If you are concerned about "fitting in," most folks do wear a velvet-ish traditional type helmet for dressage. ANY brand that is certified and fits well will do. I have an international ATH that fits me well but you will see all sorts of brands.

Depending on schedule, folks either wear that same helmet for SJ, or wear their XC helmet for SJ (and of course you can wear one for all phases).

Typically for XC folks either go with something like skull cap or a vented helmet like a Tipperary. But some folks wear GPAs etc.

It really doesn't matter, as long as it fits well and is comfy and certified.

I'm sure one of our rules gurus will chime in about the specific dress rules, but I have done SJ in my Tipp through preliminary and had no issues.

Have fun!!!

GallopGal
Feb. 22, 2010, 11:41 PM
perfect thank you!

Auto Be A Storm
Feb. 23, 2010, 09:50 AM
I have 2 GPA helmets that I wear. For dressage I wear the velvet and for stadium I wear the suede one and for x-country I wear the suede with a helmet cover!!!

Personal Champ
Feb. 23, 2010, 09:52 AM
I am just starting to get into eventing with my new mare and am going to purchase the Ovation Protege. It is super lightweight and has a neat removable mesh liner, which is fantastic for how I sweat in the summer! :lol: I had it on at the AETA tradeshow.

The retail on it is around $40, which makes it a great choice for me, coming over from hunter-land. I didn't want to spend a ton on a skull cap or Tipp until I was sure if I liked eventing, and I didn't want to wear my velvet CO for fear it would get ruined. But for how nice it is, I might never "upgrade" to a more expensive model!

Catalina
Feb. 23, 2010, 10:32 AM
I ride Novice and am starting to dabble in Training and I have a CO GR8 that I wear for all three phases.

TheBrownHorse
Feb. 23, 2010, 10:37 AM
When I evented I had a basic velvet for Dressage and SJ, and a CO J3 for XC. I did that through Training level.

You'll see people wear the same one for all three, though, or one different for all three-- eventing is pretty lax on what is "acceptable", more than likely no one will judge you for whatever you choose.

If you can only buy one helmet, go with something traditional that is ok for dressage-- I think I had an international velvet helmet-- not too spendy.

Now if I were to go back to eventing after my H/J world I would have three different helmets-- but that's just me! I have a helmet fetish and own four haha.

scubed
Feb. 23, 2010, 11:15 AM
I do all three phases in my CO GR8, though will probably get a fancier velvetish one if I am ever doing prelim or above again

sch1star
Feb. 23, 2010, 12:00 PM
I agree, go with what you like that fits. A lot of people seem to prefer brimless helmets for XC, but as others have said, a skull cap is not required, just a certified helmet.

I am not even sure a certified helmet is required in D, the last time I looked, it was allowable to have no harness.

I love my J3 for xc, and my CO John Whittaker velvet for the other two phases. I am going to need to pick a new velvet one though (fell on my head yesterday -- shopping time!!!). The Wellington looks nice:

http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=4809

But the Hampton seems very similar, and is less expensive:

http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=4809

Anyone know the difference offhand?

Dumping documented in the blog for anyone who wants a giggle, misery loving company, etc!

IFG
Feb. 23, 2010, 02:05 PM
I agree, go with what you like that fits. A lot of people seem to prefer brimless helmets for XC, but as others have said, a skull cap is not required, just a certified helmet.

I am not even sure a certified helmet is required in D, the last time I looked, it was allowable to have no harness.

I love my J3 for xc, and my CO John Whittaker velvet for the other two phases. I am going to need to pick a new velvet one though (fell on my head yesterday -- shopping time!!!). The Wellington looks nice:

http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=4809

But the Hampton seems very similar, and is less expensive:

http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=4809

Anyone know the difference offhand?

Dumping documented in the blog for anyone who wants a giggle, misery loving company, etc!

I found that the Wellington and Hampton fit totally differently. I have a tall oval head, and only the Wellington fit. Figures, eh, the most expensive one out there.

wildlifer
Feb. 23, 2010, 04:57 PM
Wear what fits your head. We do not care what brand it is. Ok, I do still giggle at the skunk stripers, but it's not personal, LOL. I ride all three phases in the Tipperary and see many doing the same.

Wee Dee Trrr
Feb. 23, 2010, 05:06 PM
I usually ride dressage in a hunt cap... but I'm now feeling a little insecure in it lately... so I'll most likely be competing all three phases in a Charles Owens J3.

I'm even going to wear it this weekend to a hunter show! :eek:

flabbergasted
Feb. 23, 2010, 06:00 PM
I usually wear my Lamicell for all phases, because it fits the best. There are differences in the shapes of the various brands, so try a bunch and go with whatever is comfortable.

Some people don't want a hard brim for jumping because it can (theoretically) come down and break the bridge of your nose. I guess that's possible if it isn't sized correctly, secured well, or you have bad luck, but it hasn't (yet) happened to me.

spaceagevalkyrie
Mar. 14, 2010, 08:48 PM
Sorry to hijack, but can anyone tell me if a CO J3 is worth it/as comfy as it looks? I've heard rave reviews.. Also, what other CO helmet does it fit like? My local (hj only) tack shop only carries the pro II's and the more HJ styled CO's, but I'd like to try on the most similar fitting one before I shell out the $$ and order one :eek:

sarah88
Mar. 14, 2010, 10:06 PM
I have a J3 and a GR8 from Co.. and i LOVE them both. great fit, and for me they have both been worth the investment :)

Outyougo
Mar. 14, 2010, 10:08 PM
Pick a helmet that fits your head shape

Wear it EVERY RIDE EVERY TIME!

A CO or GP can look pricy--but a lot less spendy than a trip to the ER or a Tramatic Brain Injury

slp2
Mar. 14, 2010, 10:36 PM
I wear a CO JR8 for all 3 phases. For dressage, I take off the black nylon cover that I keep on it full-time (for my everyday riding). For x-c and stadium, the black cover goes back on. I tried on a bunch of helmets when I bought my CO. If I remember correctly, CO's fit "oval" heads better. The CO GR8 and JR8 are identical except for the harness (GR8's harness is admittedly, nicer). But I think it also costs about $100 more than the JR8. I like the IRH helmets (I think that's right) but they fit round heads better (and did not work for me).

My only complaint with my CO is that it is not at all ventilated. I am thinking about buying another, cheaper helmet for schooling that has more airflow.

Romany
Mar. 14, 2010, 10:55 PM
Are you going to Rolex, OP? Charles Owen have a tent there with plenty of competent staff who will help you find the perfect helmet FOR FREE.

Then you just head around the tack stores to find the best deal on the hat and size that works best. Many of them offered fairly decent incentives and promotions, too, I noticed.

spaceagevalkyrie
Mar. 14, 2010, 11:10 PM
I have a J3 and a GR8 from Co.. and i LOVE them both. great fit, and for me they have both been worth the investment :)

So those two fit the same then? Sweet, I can try on a GR8 at the tack shop then, since they don't carry the J3 and that just looks amazingly comfy. I obviously don't want to order a hat off the internet and have it not fit >.<

Kementari
Mar. 14, 2010, 11:22 PM
I ride lower levels, and I wear a velvet Troxel (Grand Prix Gold) for dressage and stadium, and a Troxel Dakota with a lycra cover (though that part is hardly necessary!) for xc. :yes: I school in the Dakota, because it's nice and cool and comfy.

eventingismylife
Mar. 15, 2010, 01:10 AM
I ride in a Tipperary for schooling, stadium (if xc is allowed or its unregonized) and xc. I have the velvet Troxel Grand Prix for dressage and stadium.

HER
Mar. 15, 2010, 01:24 PM
I wear a J3 for xc and just got a JR8 for xmas for dressage and stadium. I love the J3- very comfortable. I school daily in a tipp for comfort and to not ruin my other helmets :) I second the suggestion about Rolex- the CO people there are very helpful! In fact I don't think they even sell helmets there, so they send you to another retailer to purchase, so there is no "pressure".

mg
Mar. 15, 2010, 01:53 PM
So those two fit the same then? Sweet, I can try on a GR8 at the tack shop then, since they don't carry the J3 and that just looks amazingly comfy. I obviously don't want to order a hat off the internet and have it not fit >.<

I'm not sure if I would say the J3 and GR8 fit the same...I have a J3 and absolutely love it. The GR8, however, looks absolutely terrible on me. It sits on top of my head and I generally look stupid in it. On the other hand, the Wellington Pro fits me wonderfully. I also have an older (non-Pro) style GPA titium that fits me wonderfully but just because that and the J3 both fit me, doesn't mean they fit similarly.

I wasn't able to try on a J3 either. I tried on the Pro Racing II skull cap instead and it gave me good enough idea of the fit.

spaceagevalkyrie
Mar. 15, 2010, 03:14 PM
I'm not sure if I would say the J3 and GR8 fit the same...I have a J3 and absolutely love it. The GR8, however, looks absolutely terrible on me. It sits on top of my head and I generally look stupid in it. On the other hand, the Wellington Pro fits me wonderfully. I also have an older (non-Pro) style GPA titium that fits me wonderfully but just because that and the J3 both fit me, doesn't mean they fit similarly.

I wasn't able to try on a J3 either. I tried on the Pro Racing II skull cap instead and it gave me good enough idea of the fit.

Oh really? I've heard the pro II fit differently, but I could try it. Living in the middle of hunter land kinda sucks :lol:. I'm so far out in the sticks that the closest tack shop is over an hour away, so helmet buying is an exciting venture..

Thanks!

chestnutwithchrome
Mar. 15, 2010, 04:08 PM
Sorry to hijack, but can anyone tell me if a CO J3 is worth it/as comfy as it looks? I've heard rave reviews.. Also, what other CO helmet does it fit like? My local (hj only) tack shop only carries the pro II's and the more HJ styled CO's, but I'd like to try on the most similar fitting one before I shell out the $$ and order one :eek:

I bought a CO J3 3 years ago, and it was the best investment ever! It is super super comfortable, and half the time I forget to take it off when I am done riding. In my opinion the J3 and GR8 do not fit the same though. My friend went and tried both on, and ended up going with the J3 like mine because she felt it was more comfortable. When I bought mine, I bought it out of smartpak and never even tried one on in person, I just followed the measuring instructions given in the catalog and the resulting helmet fits perfect.
They are worth the money!

Go Fish
Mar. 15, 2010, 04:40 PM
Here's a question I've always wondered about...why do eventing folks put a helmet cover on? Is it so your helmet matches your outfit? To keep it clean? A flotation device? :winkgrin:

Jazzy Lady
Mar. 15, 2010, 04:48 PM
Here's a question I've always wondered about...why do eventing folks put a helmet cover on? Is it so your helmet matches your outfit? To keep it clean? A flotation device? :winkgrin:

Because the skull helmets without a cover are the most hideous things of life. Covers are fun and the skull caps are designed without visors as a safety precaution, thus our covers have soft visors on them to keep them safe and to make them look less dorky.

I wear a J3 as my everyday helmet and xc, a Gr8 for sj and an ascot *gasp* hunt cap for dressage.

My J3 and my GR8 fit equally as comfortable to my head. Both feel like I'm wearing a pillow.

spaceagevalkyrie
Mar. 15, 2010, 04:49 PM
I bought a CO J3 3 years ago, and it was the best investment ever! It is super super comfortable, and half the time I forget to take it off when I am done riding. In my opinion the J3 and GR8 do not fit the same though. My friend went and tried both on, and ended up going with the J3 like mine because she felt it was more comfortable. When I bought mine, I bought it out of smartpak and never even tried one on in person, I just followed the measuring instructions given in the catalog and the resulting helmet fits perfect.
They are worth the money!

Sweet! My old velvet international has a half working chinstrap and recently 'took one for the team' and got an honorary funeral escort to the trash can, so this'll be my first venture into 'non crappy helmets' :)

spaceagevalkyrie
Mar. 15, 2010, 04:50 PM
Here's a question I've always wondered about...why do eventing folks put a helmet cover on? Is it so your helmet matches your outfit? To keep it clean? A flotation device? :winkgrin:

So they can find your body in the bushes :lol:

Go Fish
Mar. 15, 2010, 05:29 PM
So they can find your body in the bushes :lol:

:lol: Great minds...I thought about adding that, too, but decided to zip my lips!

Yes, I guess the visor does make a helmet look more balanced on the head...

Bobthehorse
Mar. 15, 2010, 06:07 PM
A LOT of the riders at my barn show all 3 phases in the Tipperary sportage. They are mostly eternal low level riders and they value their cool heads over looks, plus the fit is generally unrivaled for many people. The are also reasonably priced.

You will see a lot of everything at the low levels, but really there are so many different looks it comes down to what fits you the best and what is the most comfortable.

spaceagevalkyrie
Mar. 15, 2010, 06:18 PM
:lol: Great minds...I thought about adding that, too, but decided to zip my lips!

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that :winkgrin:.

SaveTheOtters
Mar. 22, 2010, 12:18 PM
hmm i've been hearing good reviews of the j3 on this thread and i am buying a new helmet and considering it but i can't decide between it and the pro II. has anyone had both and can provide some insight. originally i was set on the pro II but have heard it feels looser and the ventilation holes aren't as helpful as they would seem... thoughts?

woodstock
Mar. 22, 2010, 12:26 PM
hmm i've been hearing good reviews of the j3 on this thread and i am buying a new helmet and considering it but i can't decide between it and the pro II. has anyone had both and can provide some insight. originally i was set on the pro II but have heard it feels looser and the ventilation holes aren't as helpful as they would seem... thoughts?

Try them both on- I found them to fit very, very differently. The Pro II happened to fit me best of the two, so I went with it. I would agree that the air holes don't do much- but with that silver liner technology stuff the helmet dries quickly and doesn't end up smelling funky.

HeyJealousy
Mar. 22, 2010, 01:22 PM
I feel like the Pro Skull comes down farther on the back of your head than the J3. I had a Pro Skull for galloping racehorses and hated it because I couldn't be in a galloping position and still look up without hurting my neck. The J3 doesn't bother me, though.

DeltaMike
Mar. 22, 2010, 02:04 PM
Any helmet (as long as it's certified) will do. I prefer the LAS helmets because they seem to fit my oval-shaped head better...

atouchofclass
Mar. 23, 2010, 12:44 PM
Here is a link to the site with the Ovation helmets

http://www.ovationriding.com/

Bobthehorse
Mar. 23, 2010, 01:10 PM
Try them both on- I found them to fit very, very differently. The Pro II happened to fit me best of the two, so I went with it. I would agree that the air holes don't do much- but with that silver liner technology stuff the helmet dries quickly and doesn't end up smelling funky.

Agreed. The J3 sat too high on my head, and not only looked ridiculous but felt bare. Also, I was in between sizes, either squeeze my skull into it or it fit too loose. I got the Pro II because it fit deeper and was snug but not headache snug.

sisu27
Mar. 23, 2010, 01:49 PM
Here is a link to the site with the Ovation helmets

http://www.ovationriding.com/

Cute? Those are some ugly hats. What is with the visor? They look really cheap to me. Given that all approved helmets are equal (or so we are told) I think I will avoid the really hideous incarnations. That protege looks an awful lot like the old Tipperary helmet.

LARGEBORE
Mar. 24, 2010, 08:28 AM
Gee what a difference in preference.I think the Ovations look really cool. I have seen them in person and they are a real nice helmet.. The brim is more euro, looks good to me.

SandraD
Mar. 24, 2010, 09:10 AM
I like the looks of the Ovation helmets & I have a studnet that likes hers, but I didn't realize they all have dial fit. Yuck, I'll never have a dial fit helmet again.

SandyUHC
Mar. 24, 2010, 11:50 AM
Are there any individually sized schooling helmets out there? Have to move up to the bigger size to avoid a headache but then they swim on my head. Or any schooling brand that is sized right for a 7 1/8 noggin?