All of you with 1 to 3 year olds...how about updates?

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I figured there had to be a few of us with babies...I can't be the only one going through the terrable twos!

So, how are they all doing? What have they learned? What have they learned and forgotton? What are the plans for this year?


A question I am also wondering...What do your "lessons" consist of at ages 2 and 3?


It was nice and warm today, so Taylor got a much needed bath...it seems she has forgotton that the water hose is not a giant snake that will eat her, so I think I got the bath instead of her.
She will be 2 in March and is testing me every step of the way. I'm hoping to get a saddle on her this year, if only to have her longing in it.

Lets here your stories!

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Dont put the cart before the horse, unless he knows how to push it of course. ~~ Pat Green

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I figured there had to be a few of us with babies...I can't be the only one going through the terrable twos!

So, how are they all doing? What have they learned? What have they learned and forgotton? What are the plans for this year?


A question I am also wondering...What do your "lessons" consist of at ages 2 and 3?


It was nice and warm today, so Taylor got a much needed bath...it seems she has forgotton that the water hose is not a giant snake that will eat her, so I think I got the bath instead of her.
She will be 2 in March and is testing me every step of the way. I'm hoping to get a saddle on her this year, if only to have her longing in it.

Lets here your stories!

B & B Sport Horses
Albums updated! New pictures or Rudy and Taylor!

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Dont put the cart before the horse, unless he knows how to push it of course. ~~ Pat Green

[rosijet]

I like the idea! Sort of like a support group! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I currently have a coming two year old and a soon to be three year old (I AM a glutton for punishment!)

The two year old just recently went through trailer training. THAT was fun! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif The first two times he hauled went relatively well. The first time was when I picked him up in August and the second was a trip to the vets on Dec 23 for stitches. That trip made me think how I really needed to start working with him more on those things. So I picked a beautiful day and loaded him in and out once without too much trouble but the next time he just planted those feet like he just didn't get the point of it. Oh brother! So we started "marching" again (I call leading him w/the dressage whip in my left hand to encourage him to step up when he lags "marching") We marched back up to the trailer and he basically flipped me off. So we did a little work lunging (at the walk) and up again. This repeated until he finally hopped in and out twice and we called it a day. Yeesh!

And I'm open to suggestions from those that have worked through this issue...

I've left the trailer hooked up to continue this lesson. I can't even begin to tell you the frustrations my three year old causes! Thank God I have a 12 year old for sanity relief! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"Crazy is just another point of view" Sonia Dada

[Raven's Wing]

Raven will be 2 in May. She lunges, baths, will let me clipper her ears and bridle bath but you can forget the whiskers (and since she is turned out all the time I really don't want them off anyway), she leads, loads and trailors like a trooper, has had a saddle on her back (which she thought was a bore and waste of time), stands for the farrier, etc. etc.

My plans are to back her this July. Just get on, sit and walk around. Then she will have next winter to chill and we will go further the next summer when she is a solid 3 year old.

All sounds hunky dorrey. Ha! She is a big bruiser and has to be reminded on a regular basis that she can't throw her weight around and be in charge. She is around 15.2 now (in front) but has some bulk to go with it. She also is very oral -- we are working on it. She isn't allowed treats out of people's hands (never really has been) but boy is she mouthy.

Babies -- gotta love them -- well sometimes. LOL

[Rift]

My baby is a "Dog" (she thinks). Her mother had surgery when she was 10 hours old so she grew up on formula since the mare was sick and didn't make any milk. Sonow she thinks I'm mom. I got on her the first time with tack when she was 1 1/2, she didn't care. I have been sitting on her in the stall when she was laying down since she was big enough to let me. I thought it only fair since she always liked to flop over and lay in my lap in the stall. She shows on the line so nothing rattles her. In fact she would rather "kill it" than "run away". I ride her in fits and spurts ( she'll be three in april). She already canters and circles and bends but she was so easy its like she was born that was. I think her mom did a good job of educating her even if she couldn't nourish her. I'm just going to keep riding her once and awhile until she's about three and a half before we do anything serious. It's sooooooo hard to be patient when they are easy. Hence not ridinfg her often!

Proud keeper of http://littlebayfarm.com/

[HrsArtist]

My baby is two, she'll be three in May, and today we went on our first trail ride. I am so happy I could cry! She was an old soul, just like her dam. We went with two older Arab geldings and they weren't nearly as level minded as my girl. We rode on roads with cars, over ditches, over streams...no problems. I was on a loose rein most of the way. She's a blessing!http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I've never started a horse before, I hope they are all this good.

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[Riven]

I have a few. Thor is amazinghttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif He will be 3 in May and is now long-lining and trotting under saddle. He is still a colt but he is led around with just a plain shank. He works with or without other horses in the arena. He is just so mellow. He is getting ready for the IHF this year and the ATA stallion inspection in the fall.
Piper is still a brat. He will be two in April and he is just brushed and handled every day. He will probably do some line shows this year and maybe the IHF.
Sophie is rising 1. She is Piper's much better behaved paternal sister and a 3/4 sister to Thor. She is groomed daily and has been taught to trot on the line. She will probably do some line shows this summer. She spends all her days outside with Harry, Piper, and Muffin (the 30 year old pony babysitter).
Harry is just the best. He is rising 1 and is the quietest baby around. He loves to be groomed and eat apples (only Macs since he won't touch any other type). He will be going to some line shows this summer and probably to the IHF too.
If we get really ambitious we may take our herd to Devon and Upperville too

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[caryledee]

My colt will be 2 in June. Currently he is about 16.2 hands, and 1100 lbs. Up until December, he had the most mature, calm attitude. We did a bunch of little exercises (wearing a surcingle, being ponied, going over tarps, etc) all without a hitch. If I had to discipline him for something, it usually stuck the first or second time. Then he went on stall rest for 4 weeks and his attitude has changed a bit now. He is acting more stubborn and a bit studdish. I hope to change that Tuesday morning with a vet visit http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[munchkin]

Wow I thought I would get flamed for riding our two year old last year (he was born broke and never needed more than 10 min per ride). He even showed last year in a trail class. BTW he is only 14.2 and is completely done growing (All quarter horse). He has had the winter off so far and I will start riding him when I get the okay from my doctor. He hasnt lost anything he knows but he is exceptional. My appendix just turned a calendar two and has been line driven and had weight on her back but my husband does all that with her as she and I dont get along very well. Hopefully every one will remember everything until we start up in the spring again.

[Riven]

That was Harry and Sophie in the previous picture and this is Piper.

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[OnyxThePony]

Onyx is about 14.2 and will be 4 in April.
She came to me in June, and immediatly she had some time off for horrible hooves and sore back(yoyo 250# guy halter bareback riding her http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )
She has learned ground manners, stand, saddle and bridle, blanket, pickup and have hooves trimmed, all her lunge (lovely wonderful balance, w/t/c, transitions, flying changes, 2'6" single fence), and her long and short lining, has been backed and ridden a few times.

She still needs to learn 'forward now immediatly' under tack, lots of (ie all) milage under tack, stand totally immobile for hooves (I rececon it's stil hard for her as her feet must have hurt something awful!), and hasn't yet seen the clippers as it's too much hassle for me to get them out to her (bad trainer, bad!).

So this spring is all about riding forward http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Yay!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Neither Fear Nor Anger

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Sounds like everyone is doing a great job!!

I really think we need a support group!

Taylor will be 2 in March...and is going through the terrable two's. She has "forgotten" many things and is testing me everyday!

She is a solid paint, and hardley 15 hands. I'm hoping she'll top out just over 15.

She wore her saddle for the first time today...and all I can say is I think shes part Lippazaner! She bucked and reared...Rearing on the longe is her new favorite thing. She did quiet down and trotted around once or twice each way very calmly. We called it a day after that.

I'm wanting to back her but I'm worried that she is not ready. I have not cantered her on the longe at all and our lessons are only 15 minutes or so. Any longer than that and she starts to loose it.

She stands for the farrier, clips, loads, and bathes. She is mouthy, but has improved A LOT! She has forgotten how to lead without walking ON ME, and what "WHOA" and "WALK" on the longe mean. WE are working on it.

Rudy, who is 13 has helped out a lot. I pony her off of him and he teaches her respect.

Glad to hear all is well...and lets not let this thread fade away...or maybe start a PT with all of us. This is my first baby and I have tons of questions...and if its happening to me it has to have happened to someone else!

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[Perfect Pony]

Dan will be 3 on April 6, but is technically 3 now as he is a TB http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I just got him the week before Christmas and have been lunging him 3-4 times a week, and riding him 1-2 of those times a week. He is learning voice commands on the lunge, and learning not to be a brat (he 'tests' me 1-2 times every longing session with some bucking and spinning), and under saddle he is learning WTC and a little bending, transitions, etc. He will be in training with a dressage tainer for Jan while I get Lasik surgery, then the plan is to move into the big outside ring, and hopefully start some hacking out too.

Our biggest issue is how mouthy he is! He was just gelded a few months ago and is all mouth. He is also starting to 'test' me a bit hand walking, resisting going back into his stall, wanting to eat everything, balking and then charging forward. He is just an overgrown child and every day I wonder what he's going to try to pull today http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Daydream Believer]

My filly will be two at the end of February. She's about 15 hands at the butt and 14:3 in front. I can only guess at her adult height since she's a mystery foal out of a 14:3 Conn/TB mare, but I'm guessing 15:2 at least. She's still a bit leggy. Gosh has she started to move too! Wowwee!

Here's a pic from September. I would love comments on her or speculation as to her sire. Our best guess was a quarter horse stallion (Zan Parr Barr/Joe Reed bred) but she's not very quarter horsey looking to me.

http://forum.nchorsenews.com/uploads/Daydream%20Believer/Misty.19mo.conf2a.jpg

I haven't done a lot with her except ground manners, loading, and minor stuff like that...not even lunged yet. I hope to get her started under saddle this Spring or summer and just play with her a little going on trail rides and stuff.

"No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle..." Winston Churchill

[ladydoctor]

I have a coming 3 yr old. She had a suspensory injury and was stall bound with limited exercise for 5+ months. That was fun http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif
I broke her to ride in September so I could walk her while mounted and she did fine until the weather turned cold. Her injury healed so now she's turned out until at least this spring. She is by a Trakehner out of a Percheron cross mare so I would like to take it slowly with her. She looks like a slow maturing type.

Here's a pic (I love to look at pics so I assume everyone else does too http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Diva (http://community.webshots.com/photo/67865781/105753010bGndrh)

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the ability to learn from the experience of
others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
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[Lianne]

I just bought my first youngster as a yearling in May 2003, so she'll be 2 this May. When I got her, she knew how to tie, pick up her feet and be groomed, but that was it. She was very headstrong and excitable, and didn't lead very well. First time I tried to bathe her, she went ballistic. First time I tried to put boots on her, she almost clocked me with her front leg.

This is what I accomplished with her in four months, leading up to our first line show in September: She walked/trotted in hand like an angel. Backed up willingly. Stood still quietly. She has worn boots, blankets, a bridle and a saddle (with girth tightened up) without flinching. Tolerates flyspray and bathing without a fuss. Has walked over a bright yellow tarp (on a windy day! *lol*). She also lets me clip her muzzle and fetlocks without a problem. She strongly objected to her ears being clipped, though.. I don't blame her, that's got to tickle!!

At her first line show in September, this formerly antsy, tense filly was as cool as a cucumber. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I was bursting with pride, she was so well-behaved. All my work paid off BIG time.

This desensitization training plus the bond we've formed has made a big difference in being able to treat her scratches. Picking at scabs, scrubbing with betadine, towelling her leg off and rubbing cream on is so much easier when you have a filly that stands still. Although it drives me nuts that she still likes to chew on the crossties, but hey.. you can't win 'em all.

I can't wait to start ground-driving her in the spring, and I will put her through the jump chute over some small fences to see her form and scope!! She's gonna be a big girl, at 20 months she is a little over 15.2hh at the withers and just under 16hh at the butt! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Tadaa!! http://community.webshots.com/photo/73953184/92581104qOPULQ

[PaintedCash]

Cash is almost 3.. Our main issue right now is backing up. He's great under saddle.. He clips, ties, hauls, stands for the farrier (didn't make a bad move, and I was really surprised about that one)... I'm lucky, he's one of those horses thats just like "OK, whatever.. just do it and get it over with." .. although he is still a baby and sure can act like it! He's been out on the trails and is such a good boy. Really not worried about anything, and he's almost more sane than my (almost) 22 y/o Fox Trotter!
Good luck with all your babies!!

~*Beth

Don't fear failure so much that you refuse to try new things.
The saddest summary of a life contains three descriptions: could have, might have, and should have.

[jilltx]

Love the pictures everyone has posted! I'm so jealous...all pretty and shiny!! We've been under water for the past month, and my three are just grubby grubby grubby. I have been rinsing legs every night, and brushing, but that's about it. My filly will be 2 in April, and we just handle her every day. Guess I need to start doing more with her, huh? We do "bounce" at her side and in front of her. It's pretty funny to see my hubby "bouncing" her out to the pasture (I've been told they get freaked out when you "bounce" to mount...so I'm trying to prepare her for that). Other than that it's mostly just ground manners every day...and lots of love and scritches.

~Jilltx
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[dressager]

I guess I'm the slow one here.

I have a coming two year old Lipizzan/Arab cross. I'm not even THINKING about getting on her until AT LEAST four- probably later. I have bathed her, she lunges, leads, and some "other stuff"-- I have her with a baby trainer right now who works with her a few times a week. Next week (my barn is closing) my horses are moving to a green pasture (a vet's place), and I'm not sure what trainer I will use then. This summer she'll wear a blanket, have a bridle put on, and a bareback pad.

My coming four year old bathes, ties, leads, and lunges- all much better than the younger one. I MAY have her started under saddle this summer, IF she seems mature enough when I visit her in two months. She has worn a bareback pad with the girth done up (something I'll do with the younger one this summer), had a bridle on, blankets, books, and handles sprays and such.

Dressager (http://www.geocities.com/lubenkafarm)
You don't throw a whole life away just because its a little banged up - Tom Smith

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I think it all depends on how mature they are for their age.
I wasnt sure that Taylor was ready to be exposed to a saddle yet, but over the past few weeks she has shown me otherwise. I want her to learn to go FORWARD under saddle before she is backed. And while I know it will be different with an actual person on her, I think it will help out a lot when that time comes if she's already used to the way a saddle feels on her.

Everyday we are re-learning something she already knows. Everyday is a challange and a everyday new challanges arrise. She tests my patients EVERY day.


I was really suprised at how she calmed down on the longe yesterday. She really slowed her speed down yet opened up her stride and mellowed out...VERY nice trot! We will see how it goes...keep up the hard work everyone!


Taylors pictures are in my signature line.

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[Dancing Lawn]

Henry (aka Risk) will be three on the 15 of June. He's still a colt, but you'ld never know it from his attitude. He leads just with a plain shank, has never needed to be disciplined, and when I backed him the first time, he thought that was pretty dull. The second time I got on, I rode him up and down the driveway. We met a huge tractor at the end, and he acted like he'd lived with huge machinery all of his life. He's a sweetheart. I just updated my website with a jumping shot of him, that was taken in the fall. It was his first time being free-jumped, and he thought that was fun. when we finished, he went calmly back to grazing. He has the best attitude!
I've backed off working him, for the winter, plus he's having a growth spurt, so I'll be doing more as spring approaches.

less hard work, more fine dining.
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If guys can do it, how hard can it be?

[Mayhem]

my boy will be 2 in June, he does just about anything you want him to do and I took him to Devon in September he was great we got 9th in our yearling class even. I have just started the bridle/bit stuff with him he just can't figure out how to get it out of his mouth but he doesn't seem to mind it much he just chews and chews. I do have a question though how often and how long do you leave it in for and how long does it take before he stops trying to spit it out!!

[Paddys Mom]

My coming 2 year old is being an angel so far. She is a QH and she is currently 14.1 in the front and 14.3 in the back.

She loads in the trailer, ties, clips (not so great on ears though), stands for bathing, vet, and blacksmith. She longes and long-lines great at walk/trot/whoa and working on getting a steady canter. Wears a bridle during work without complaint. Wears a saddle without complaint (never even bucked). I have also been on her back once last week. She didn't even flinch. She went to one show in November and placed first in a 2 & under Halter class.

Yes, I am a proud mommy!

My plan is to continue giving her the winter off and then do more long-line work in the spring with some occasional mountings.

I don't have a current picture - but if I did you would see one furry beast!

[Catalina]

I have a coming 3 yo Holsteiner X filly that I have had since she was four months old. She has had a blanket, saddle with the girth tightened, and a bridle on, all with no problem. She will usually stand for the farrier, is good about hosing and fly spray, leads from either the left or the right side like a pro, and comes when called.

Now for the bad side: she has taken up a nasty habit of kicking when asked to do something she does not want to (like leave her buddies stall when I am trying to clean it). She can be incredibly stubborn and when she plants her feet, I almost have to literally pick her up and move her. And she is super mouthy and will use teeth (gently, but still http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/no.gif) if you ignore her for too long.

I don't plan on riding her until she is four, because at almost three, she is still a shrimpette and I am hoping she has more growing to do.

This is the most recent picture I have (although not the best). She is on the far right.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Iwould love to try the long lines...can you guys explain it to me...how does it work and such? I think that would really help the "WHOA" part of longing.

Mayhem...Taylor hasnt learned that she CAN swollow with a bit in her mouth...she drools and drools then takes one big gulp. She wears hers for about 10 to 15 mintues once or twice a week. If I longe her in it I put a hlater oer her bridle, in case she pulls her airs above the ground stunt...so I dont yank on her baby mouth.

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[Nikki^]

My 10 month old has a horrible attention span lately. I use to be able to groom her fully and she would stand just fine. Now since, she is with other youngsters, she only stand long enough for me to groom only one side. I can pick all four feet perfectly, but then after I get done with one side of grooming, she starts to neigh and pull on the lead rope. She also responds to pressure and back off.

She use to stand fine and not move around, but I think she is becoming heard bound. It really sucks because I'm afraid she is going to flip out being tied and hurt herself.

She leads fine and turns fine to the left, I have to stick my elbow into her neck to turn right.

Any suggestions? Is this normal for a 10 month old? She's going to be a year on Feb 23rd. Anything I can do with her? Thanks!

Kioko (http://www.geocities.com/area51/crater/5267/HeartofGold.html)

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

That sounds normal. Taylor used to lead and turn fine..now she walks ON me and is still on turning. I think they all "forget" things as they get older nad want to test you. Kepp working at her and be persistant..dont give in to her.

AS for the herd bound thing...you need to really work on this. Can you keep her in a day or two...or put her in a pasture by herself a day or so a week? This will only get worse as time goes by...she needs to learn she will be fine if shes alone and not with her friends 24/7.

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Dont put the cart before the horse, unless he knows how to push it of course. ~~ Pat Green

[Calvincrowe]

Well, my Rennie is 3 (she'll be 4 in April) and is going nicely undersaddle. She has had a successful career in the in-hand shows, which taught her to listen, behave in public and generally travel and settle in, in new places. She was super easy to start, quiet and accepting of most things, only offered to buck once, and she quickly decided that would take too much energy. She trots poles (got first place in a trot-a-pole class at her first "hunter show"!), and works in company, too. She won't let me clip her whiskers, and ears are an issue. After two leg injuries, she is not fond of me tampering with them, but gets over it pretty quickly. Trailering is our new issue...she has decided it is not her thing any more. This will be our spring project, reintroducing the concept of "trailer good, home bad, you must leave and be good". Actually, she will let my non-horsey fiance load her every time, so I'll just let him handle that (ha ha). She will be started over fences late in the summer, hopefully, but right now she is just hanging out, having the winter off, tormenting my Calvin.

Learn from my mistake. Get a brand inspection card and photos of your horse--just in case you lose your friend!

[royal militron]

My guys is 21 months and he's is in his terrible two's right now. He is just being naughty. Very mouthy, which we've been working on and just FULL of himself ALL the time. He has his moments where he's good and some where he's terrible, but right now he's just staying pretty consistant at just being abnoxious. He is my first baby so some of the things he does just make me laugh and some make me frustrated. He was such a good little boy, I don't know what happened!!

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I feel you Royal Miltron!!!! I think we had invasion of the baby snatchers...they took our perfect little babies and replaced them with imposters!! I swear Taylor acts just like a teenager!

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[royal militron]

Yes, that's what he is! He tests me every single day. And by reading this thread I realize I am not alone in that aspect. the only thing that I know I am doing right is being consistant in what I want from him and I think eventually he will figure that out.

What do all of you do with mouthy babies? I mean I get after him for him. Treats are aways to be put in his grain bucket if he is to get them and I try to pat him and give him his attention closer to his neck and shoulder so he doesn't even get the urge to play with his mouth. That's the hardest thing!!!

Do you guys lunge your babies? Sometimes I want to lunge him just to make his brain work, butI haven't yet. Ihave ground driven him and done alot of in hand work. Any suggestions?

[relocatedTXjumpr]

When Taylor is mouthy I rub HARD on her nose, up and down...sometimes she thinks this is fun, so I grab her top lip and twist. Sounds bad I know, But it works. I learned about that over on the Joh Lyons boards. I keep at it until she pulls away. When she pulls away I stop and go back to whatever I was doing. Repeat when nessacary. Sometimes it seems like this is all I am EVER doing. She is 21 months too...and didnt really do this until she hit her 20 month or so.

As for longing, I long Taylor. Maybe 10 to 15 minutes a session. Walk...(when she walks) and trotting...no cantering yet. Walking is really hard for her..so we focus on that. We go both directions. She gets "pissy" or thinks shes done and turns in a faces me....or she will buck, rear, then turn in and face me....this has been a huge problem recently. She likes to see how far off the ground she can get. Once all 4 feet are on the ground, I pull in on the line, just short enough to where she cant evade me...I walk around toward her rear and push her off in the same direction. Its an on-going battle and Im not sure whos winning. Ilonge her maybe once a week...if it would stop raining anyway.

I have read posts on the breeding forum and here...some people start backing at 1 1/2, some dont start until 4 or 5. Some dont even work with babaies until 2 1/2...its all relative to the horse I think.

Taylor is a paint, shes small and wont be huge, but shes built like a tank. Her attitude is well...like a teenager. I figure as long as she can protest and deciede that she doesnt WANT to do something, that she can do it. I cant tell when she gets frustrated or confused, and her load is lightened.

I worry that I dont do enough or that I do too much...you hear so many different things from different people. Bottom line is I know my horse...I live with her, if I think Im asking too much I re-think my session.

I dont know how to drive or long line..so I work with the knowledge I do have.

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[Nickelodian]

Kendall is officially a 2yo since she's a TB, but her birthdate is May 4.

She stands for the farrier, ties, trailers (first time last week!), lunges in the roundpen, has had a bridle and a saddle on.

I have a question though. I thought she was "on track" to growing to about 16 hands but now I"m worried that she's small! Right now she is 14.3 1/2" at the withers, and 15.2hh at the butt. She has a big body, but compared to the other heights I think she may not end up being that big?!?!

Here she is last July:

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And last week standing around with her 18hh pasture mate:

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[RioTex]

I have a pair of three year old fillies and a pair of two year olds (one colt and one filly).

Nick, I will go put the stick on the colt tonight and let you know where we are. Don't panic, they all grow differently. All four of mine are at ugly, growthy stages right now. All are butt high and one is a yak in the truest sense of the word. She will be small and big-headed although her parents were both large (16.2).

The three year olds have been ridden in the round pen 3-4 times. They both load, clip, tie, etc. Have been worked, but not ridden away from home.

The two year olds have done almost nothing. Both cross tie and lead, but that's about all I have done with them. One I can handle all over and the over one wants to take my head off. The filly is an early June baby and the colt was mid-May. I will start him this summer.

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[ladydoctor]

Here's how I do long-lining (correct me if necessary http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif). I bought a surcingle and took 2 lunge lines and attached one to each side of the bit and then ran them thru the rings on either side of the surcinglem (actually I did that vice versa). Then I tried to carry a whip but was not coordinated enough so I just stood behind my horse and clucked. Initially we walked all over the ring (with the gate closed, just in case). Once she got the hang of "whoa" and turning, I took her out into the pastures. I never did much more than a walk when behind her because I was afraid of losing control but I used the 2 lunge line technique to lunge her and it worked great to keep her on the circle. I did all that last March and then when I went to get on her in September she remembered how to turn and stop. In fact, getting her to go forward was the hardest part of riding her! She's the first one I've long-lined and it made it a lot easier to break her since she already knew how to turn and to accept the bit. I even did a little trotting before turning her back out and she was able to do circles at the ends of the ring fairly easily. I'm a convert!

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Thanks ladydoctor...I can understand that. I will try it...if it EVER stops raining and my pastures dry out!

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[Paddys Mom]

ladydoctor's explanation fits what I do to long-line except that I start with the lines connected to the halter. That way, I am not yanking on her mouth. I also add a saddle pad under the surcingle and eventually a saddle.

Once you get good with the lines, you can lunge them around you and then change directions while moving - takes practice!

I know everyone has differing opinions on backing, but I am just going with my gut and my knowledgebase. My filly is solid but not big. She is a QH so she is not a slow-growing WB. Plus, I am less than 100 pounds and I am using my lightweight synthetic saddle. If she couldn't physically handle me sitting on her back for a few minutes, then I'd worry that she has problems!

royal miltron - As far as lunging - I do it for about 15 minutes at a time, maybe 2-3 times a week. We mostly walk and whoa, walk and whoa. Then we walk and trot and walk. I am interested in getting her to 1) pay attention, 2) understand forward, and 3) understand whoa. I don't use lunging for fitness at this point. I use long-lining to ger her to understand steering.

I must be blessed because Lucy hasn't been mouthy or opinionated...yet! My old gelding helps to keep her in line. Ponying her off of him helped a lot. If she tried to bite, he would push his hip into her. If she tried to go too fast or too slow, he would make her fix her pace. If she tried to leap into the air he kept her on the ground. And since I was there, she associated that with me, I guess. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[Roisin]

This is a fun topic!

My IDSH filly will be 2 in March. Now that it is so cold, they mostly stand around during their turnout time. That means she is pretty fresh when I work with her, so I've taken that into consideration. Mostly it's some play time in the indoor...I wouldn't even call it free longeing...it's a lot of (as someone mentioned earlier) "airs above the ground"! Fun to watch, but I always put the boots on first. I've become a little supersticious about it! I'm sure that the first time I skipped the boots she would probably cream herself. And, if there are jumps set up, she will often pop over them.

She learned Longeing 101 in the fall, but there is too much traffic in the indoor now so Lungeing 102 will wait 'til spring. Now we are doing a lot of refresher work in-hand (after baby rodeo is done for the day).

Next up...work with clippers around the ears. She sooo does not care for that! Other than that, her ground manners are pretty darn good and she's had quite a few trailer trips. She actually seems to like going for a ride since our trailer has windows side and front for her to watch the scenery go by!

Count me in for the "Baby Support Group"!

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I think Taylor is clasterphobic (sp?) She loads really well into a slant load trailer, but if I ask her to go in a straight load with a divider in the middle she throws a fit!

I had a TB that did the same thing.

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[caffeinated]

Yoda will be two at the end of May http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think he's unlearned some of the stuff we had worked on in terms of leading, so will need some refresher courses when the weather gets better. Just needs to remember to move with me- he's gotten lazy and all "no way, not trotting... pffft" which makes me crazy. We;ve been working over the winter on trailer loading- whenever it's hooked up we just ask for help and get on and off a few times. He's getting pretty good http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif He clips just fine, been doing that since he was a little baby...

He's recently started getting snotty about having his feet handled though- he was fine up until he got an abscess in his left front, and something about standing and having his foot handled all the time made him cranky, now he pulls this thing where if you hold his foot up for more than ten seconds he starts bowing back like he's about to fall over. So we have to work on that.

He's worn a bridle and saddle (limited) and understands being led with the bit. Holds it nicely. Hoping to start with long lining in the spring (or when the weather improves) after we brush up on the leading, and also will get back to ponying, except out on actual trails instead of just around the field. (woooooo! there are ghosts out there!!!!)

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[Janet]

Mr Brain is 3 1/2 (will turn 4 in May), but he is a TB, so legally 4. Does he count?

Took him to a VHSA Associate show on Saturday, just for the training benefit. I took him in the three "Adult Pleasure Horse" classes, and he got 5th out of 8 in each of them. But at the end he said "boy, I'm tired". (They spit the pleasure division 3 ways, ponies, juniors on horses, adults on horses.)

After the pleasure division, they had a schooling break, with the fences set at 2 feet, so I popped him over a bunch of them. There must have been 20 horses in the ring, going every which way, passing him, and coming at him, but it didn't bother him. Had a couple of stops until he figured out what I wanted, then he just hopped over everything- his first time with gates, brush, flower boxes, walls, etc.

Good Boy.

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

[Paddys Mom]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by caffeinated:
now he pulls this thing where if you hold his foot up for more than ten seconds he starts bowing back like he's about to fall over. So we have to work on that.
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I let my filly fall to her knees when she tried this and she hasn't done it since!

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I agree with PAddys mom. I did the same thing with Taylor. She thinks about doing it now but then straightens up when I dont let go.

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[caffeinated]

I guess I'll try that- I've been scared about that because I'm afraid of hurting him. Dumb, I know... intensely dumb... I just have a nightmare about him coming on his knee too hard and being lame forever

We'll see what this week brings, I haven't seen him since before christmas... (eep)

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Dont be afraid. he wont kill himself...it will be just enough of a shock to make him realize you are not going to let go.

When Taylor even attempts to bow down I growl at he and she stops. She has assoctaited the different growling with being bad or doing something she shouldnt. Makes life easier.

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[Mchoss1]

I bought Paige in Febuary, she was just over a year old. For some bizarre reason I decided I wanted to show halter. She doesn't have the "bloodlines" but to my eye she was gorgeous and built like a brick outhouse. It's been an interesting 11 months so far. Four months after I bought her I had major financial setbacks and we didn't make any APHA shows as planned. We did hit 4 local open shows where she placed 3rd out of 12 (Mare class w/ no age divisions), 1st out of 5 (no age division), 3rd out of 5 (same series, different judge but same mares as the last show), 6th out of 16 (mixed sexes and ages.) Except for the 3rd place showing where the judge said she couldn't place her above adult mares (which she did, since 4th and 5th were grown mares) and that her legs were crooked... I don't think it was a bad year. The goal this year is to hit one or two APHA shows to see how she compares in the big leagues. She learned voice commands on the lunge, been exposed to show atmospheres, she's been saddled twice, and laid across. At nearly 2 she's still quite small, standing about 14'1 up front and 15 in back. I see a growth spurt coming on as she's begun to slim up. Fingers crossed she makes the 15'2 she measures for adult height. I also think her first heat is upon us since I never saw her wink until the other day. What a coinkydink, since I had been boyfriend shopping for her in the latest Paint Journal the other day. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I don't have any intention of breeding her this year, but it is fun to window shop.
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[Perfect Pony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by relocatedTXjumpr:
Glad to hear all is well...and lets not let this thread fade away...or maybe start a PT with all of us. This is my first baby and I have tons of questions...and if its happening to me it has to have happened to someone else!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well my horse was a monster on the ground when I got him, then turned into an angel for a few weeks. Yesterday I went out there and lunged him, he was pretty good, I groomed him in the crossties and he was great, and he completely and totally turned into a wild animal walking him back to his stall. Nothing like having a 16.1 hand 2 yo TB rearing and striking and bucking on the end of a 10 ft leadrope throwing a temper tantrum.

Do any of your young horses just act like maniacs on the ground sometimes? I try to keep my cool and make him mind, but the be honest it scares the crap out of me when he acts like that, he has absolutely no problem running me over. I don't have problems with much, but horses rearing and striking and trying to run me over on the ground is the worst.

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[LuvTheDutch]

I have a 3 coming 4 yr old that is taking the winter easy. Infact, my friend's horse got stuck in his fence and tore his leg all up. She is now horseless and can only ride on weekends. He hadn't been ridden in over 2 months (like I said, he went on vacation) and she came over to see if they clicked so she could at least have something to ride until her boy comes back. We did a lot of stretching and circles and it was amazing how quick he came back to the form Elizabeth had him in at the end of the summer. It occured to me that, even though he'll be back in training with Elizabeth (Solter) this spring/summer and showing with her, that he will be marketed as a children or young junior's mount. Why can't all my 2 & 3 year olds be more like him?

[sbp]

I have a 3yo warmblood filly that is "homebred"..I just love this filly! She is has had her growthy stages, and at the end of last summer she looked soooo good (you can see her photo on the first page of my website, address below) I did some simple roundpen work with her in mid-late fall, and she did beautifully! I plan to resume roundpenning when the weather improves, and I will back her lightly, maybe in the late spring or summer--if she seems ready.
Susan

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[Nikki^]

Do any of your young horses just act like maniacs on the ground sometimes? I try to keep my cool and make him mind, but the be honest it scares the crap out of me when he acts like that, he has absolutely no problem running me over. I don't have problems with much, but horses rearing and striking and trying to run me over on the ground is the worst.

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My filly has an annoying habit of wanting to go to her Friends when I lead her. She'll try to get away, but what I do is stick my elbow on her neck and turn her around. I do many circles and she responds nicely. Then I make her stand. When she's good, I praise her and continue walking. Is she starts to neigh and act up, I walk away around the farm, away from her pasture buddies. I keep her out of sight of her buddies until she leads like a good girl. It has worked nicely and after the session I turn her back out.

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Taylor saves her airs above the ground for the longe line. I hate it. I guess its a normal thing. Its getting better though.

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[rfath]

Beorn (Belgian WB) will be 3 at the end of July. He's so small and slow to grow (just sticked him last night at 14.3 and a half in the front and 15.1 behind) that we're taking things pretty slowly with him, hoping that he'll grow :/

So far he's still working on bridling, though he's gotten pretty good about it. He's been long-lined once and seems to be under the impression that he already knew all that. We've had surcingles and saddles on him, but no weight....

Can't wait for warmer weather to start on the trailering stuff - he'll get on the trailer eventually, once he realizes that he really does have to lift his legs. He just..doesn't understand that and stands there looking wistfully into the trailer until someone grabs a leg and puts it up for him.

'oh!'

*sigh* he's just not an exciteable baby, which is good, but sometimes... I wonder if he got dropped on his head.

[lotsospots]

My filly will be two in March. She baths, clips, trailers etc...has always been very easy to deal with....until now!! Yesterday my friend and I took our babies up to the ring to have a little leading lesson - all dressed up with bridle/surcingle/boots etc. All started out well at the walk - a little pushy so we worked on turning away from me, staying out of my space...then we decided to do a little trot..apparently to a two year old that means unleash the demon and all frustration from standing around in the rain for the past few weeks! Leaping, bucking, rearing, and especially precious was the repeated attempts to kick me in the head! After trying to discipline her on the lead but really having no effect, decided it was time to get out the longe line. So we stumbled upon our first longe lesson, which actually went not too bad despite all the bucking. I think she just needed to vent, cuz after that she lead like an angel! Boy, the terrible twos are no myth! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun.

[Perfect Pony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lotsospots:
Leaping, bucking, rearing, and especially precious was the repeated attempts to kick me in the head! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure am glad it's not just me, although I don't wish that behavior on ANYBODY. I ended up leaving the barn so depressed I can't tell you.

I am just really glad he is in training this month. I know part of it was my fault since I am still in the 'new toy' phase and just want to be friends with him (hello, he's a horse, lol!). When he started being good I made the big mistake of hand grazing him with the other owners and their older horses since the pastures are closed right now. After his first fit he tried to drag me over to the grass and graze, and when I wouldn't let him he freaked even worse, like a little kid throwing a temper trantrum in Toys R Us when they can't have a toy.

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[caffeinated]

no new updates with my guy- since I complained about the bowing down/leg thing, he hasn't tried it once, although he's taken to itching his nose on my butt while I'm working with the front feet.

goober.

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Welcome to my world lotsospots!

We have been bambarded with rain the past few weeks. It seems just as the pasture is drying up we get another down pour, so I havent had any big "training" sessions. Just the repeated grooming and leading.
Taylor has had a growth spurt and looking very tall and wide, although she still is just at 15 hands in the rear and just under at the wither..im thinking she will max out at 15...im praying for 15.2 or so.
She is still very pushy latley, testing me every step of the way. Whats with the looking at me while I groom her?!?! COME ON...stop with the head wiggling and bending around to see what I'm doing!!

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[sbock]

I have a colt that turns 2 this May. He's an Indoctro x Adith x Galoubet baby. You guys are so lucky to have your babies nearby. My barn isn't set up for babies -- so my guy is out running around in an irrigated pasture w/a bunch of other colts -- though his pals are all thoroughbreds headed for the track. They all leave this spring so I'll have to find new friends for him. He lets me touch him, lead him etc, but I've not done anything else w/ bhim. What tips do you all have that you can pass on about what I should be doing with him. Hearing how much your babies are doing makes me feel like I'm totally dropping the ball on my guy. My thought was to just let him hang out and play till he's 3 and then send hin off to someone awesome to break him (hate that word) and get him ready for my trainer who hopes to ride him in the big jumpers. He has the bloodlines for it but it remains to be seen if he has any talent.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

No worries sbock!

I havent seen Taylor since Monday, I work late 2 nights a week so I go home and crash. She is in a growth spurt I think, looking a little like a yack....a fuzzy yack! Man can she grow a winter coat!

If the weather holds out and doesnt rain this weekend I am going to work with her.

I cant wait for warmer, dryer weather!

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[Paddys Mom]

Lucy is having a growth spurt too! I looked at her and said, "Man, she has definitely gotten taller!" So I got out my Christmas present (fancy measuring stick with level), and sure enough, she is now 14.3 h at the withers and 15.1 h at the rump. The funny thing is that my old gelding is the opposite - 15.1 h at the withers and 14.3 h at the rump.

She hasn't been having the "Terrible Two's" fits that some of your horses have been, but she has started becoming obnoxious at feeding time. They are allowed in/out of their stalls 24/7 and they come in when they see me coming to feed them. She will come in and bang her body into the stall divider. She is not trying to scare my gelding away, I think she is just really anxious now at feeding time. I have been just waiting until she stands quiety to give her the grain.

We are in the middle of a long snow storm. Unfortunately, my sacrifice paddock was wet, then frozen, so now it is just ice. The horses walk around as little as possible. So, a couple of times now when my husband wasn't home, I let them into the pasture to stretch their legs. You should've seen them go nuts! Lucy stood in the center of the pasture, leaping straight up in the air with all 4 legs and then bucking with her hind end even higher. My old gelding showed me his beautiful extended trot and even galloped a bit. Then, I think because of my praying, it snowed tons to cover the divots they had made in the pasture, so my husband will never know.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I got in trouble for riding Rusy in the front yard last week.

Of course he found the one little divit in the ground.

Dont they understand?!?!

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[Paddys Mom]

One day my husband left a section of the pasture fence down while he was doing some maintenance. I came down from upstairs and saw my horses on my back patio looking in through the sliding glass door! They had gotten the gate open between the paddock and the pasture and immediately found that gap in the fence. They had trotted around to the front yard before I could convince them that I was going to feed them the grain I was desperately rattling around in the coffee can. Talk about divots! But it was his fault so he couldn't say anything to me! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Well, any time he brings it up I say..."THERE ARE 4 CARS IN MY BASEMENT, A POOL TABLE THATS SO COVERED IN CAR PARTS YOU CAN'T SEE IT, AND 2 MORE TRUCKS IN MY BARN!"

He shuts up and "forgives" me of what ever wrong doing I mighthave done on behalf of the horses.

I cant wait to get more land so this crap can go in his building!

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[wanderlust]

Kali, Torie was just like that when I first got her. And it is very scary when they rear/lunge/spook into you. She would turn into a leaping fire-breathing dragon. After the first episode, she always wore a stud-chain when being walked and I usually carried a dressage whip. She learned *very* quickly that behavior is unacceptable. A few "come to Jesus" moments is probably the best thing you can do for both of your sakes. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

The aforementioned coming 4-year old (April 6), who I bought as a 2-year old, is fantastic. Walking, trotting and cantering forward, straight and round; starting to learn leg-yield; and will go to her first dressage show at training level in April.

~formerly Master Tally~

[relocatedTXjumpr]

What about when they do it on the longe? Taylor is fine while leading...we have to have a few reminders about not walking on me, but she only practices her airs above the ground on the longe...it go just as quickly as it comes...she rears, cow kicks, jumps straight up them stops, turns towards me and stairs at me.

How can I stop this?

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[wanderlust]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by relocatedTXjumpr:
What about when they do it on the longe? &lt;snip&gt;...she rears, cow kicks, jumps straight up them stops, turns towards me and stairs at me.
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First, I would lunge only in a bridle or lungeing cavesson. Then, and it is a little counter-intuitive, keep them close to you and keep the lunge-line fairly short. You can still make large circles by walking a bit. Be sure you are positioned a little bit more towards their butt than their shoulder, and have the lunge whip pointing at their hocks. You want to feel a bit like you are "driving" them around the circle rather than pulling their head around. As soon as you think they are going to start the silliness (and you can usually tell- there will be the same corner where they tend to bulge or pull), use the lunge whip judiciously on their haunches. Some only need a single crack, some a little more. But you want to keep them going forward from their butt/haunces/hocks.

The trick, of course, is positioning yourself in a way that you have control and are driving their hind-end, but that you aren't so close that you are in range of flying hind feet. It usually involves lots of re-positioning and some quick footwork on your part... and with some of the more difficult horses, I'll wear my helmet while lungeing.

~formerly Master Tally~

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Thanks. I always wera my helmet, you never know when they might forget you are there!

I try to keep the line short...too long and shes all over the place and realizes that I cant reach her, thats fun! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif
I longe her in a halter over her bridle, so I dont tear on her mouth. It seems to happen more so when she starts trotting to fast, she gets really quick and then explodes. Or when she bulges out and hits the line...that seems to cause her to whip around and explode.

We are re-learning "WALK" and "WHOA" on the longe. I think thats the root of the problem.

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[Paddys Mom]

Ya know, relocatedTXjumpr, I think we are long-lost twins. My husband is also into restoring old cars. In fact, when we agreed that horse #2 for me meant old car #2 for him, he become most supportive in my search. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You and I also both have our older gelding and our two-year-old filly. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Let me tell ya...Brad builds race motors, thats his job. But he also does stuff on his own. theres the 55 chevy...all orginal that hasnt seen sunlight in I could tell ya how long...and the 97 s-10 ss, that he had when we were in high school, that has 12,000 orginal miles on it and two inches of dust! Add that to the 13, YES 13, other cars and Im out numbered! To name a few..theres the 68 VW beetle with a v8 in it, and the 93 blazer with a HUGE v8 in it...he only built that one because people told him he couldnt! AND he just bought another truck..he says it to haul a horse trailer....this thing sounds like its going to fall apart at any moment! SO, make that 14, and there are 5 that are actually tagged and drivable! Lets not even get into the endless supply of tires!
He does amazing work on wrecks, hes a body man too...but this is getting out of hand! You buy two to fix one...so what do you do with the other two?!?! I can't wait until we get more land and he can put his shop up so all of this stuff can get out of my barn and stop taking up valuable pasture space!

I need to add more horses to my collection!

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[Perfect Pony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wanderlust:
Kali, Torie was just like that when I first got her. And it is very scary when they rear/lunge/spook into you. She would turn into a leaping fire-breathing dragon. After the first episode, she always wore a stud-chain when being walked and I usually carried a dressage whip. She learned *very* quickly that behavior is unacceptable. A few "come to Jesus" moments is probably the best thing you can do for both of your sakes. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

The aforementioned coming 4-year old (April 6), who I bought as a 2-year old, is fantastic. Walking, trotting and cantering forward, straight and round; starting to learn leg-yield; and will go to her first dressage show at training level in April.

~_formerly Master Tally_~<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the advice, I talked to Shirley last night and she said the same thing. Luckily he's only done it a few times in the last month, and only this once since his first week at the barn. I am going to try the stud chain for a whiel just in case he pulls it again, so I'll be ready.

BTW, our horse have something else in common, Dan's birthday is April 6, 2001 http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[wanderlust]

Yep, nip that monkey business in the bud. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif I had to do the same thing with Behr a few weeks ago, and he is a like a new, well-behaved horse to handle on the ground.

My trainer's philosophy is to "be the alpha mare." Think of what the alpha mare in a herd does if another horse gets in her face... she bites, she kicks, she's threatening and she means business. And it doesn't take more than a couple of times of that for the other horse to figure out that they had better stay in line or they'll get their ass kicked. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

btw- is Dan a Smokester baby?

~formerly Master Tally~

[Perfect Pony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wanderlust:
btw- is Dan a Smokester baby?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Naw, I meant he has the attitude and the same b-day http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I actually found out he is a Seattle Slew grandson (by Seattle Sleet), and he has a lot of great Euro horses on his dam's side (his maternal grandfather was Trempolino, his dam's grandad was Green Dancer). Like your boy, he was another CA horse bred in KY for greatness who didn't want to run, LOL. Lucky for us, eh? His registered name is Went a Dancin'.

BTW, Shirley says that Behr is doing awesome. Let me know when you and Susan head to your first show so I can check out his progress. I told Shirley if you wouldn't have given her a check that day I would have! He is so lovely, just goes to show what you can find out there if you look.

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[Colours932]

My mom and got a 2 year old filly last sepember. It is so much fun having her around! She'll be 3 in May, and she's 15.2h now. She's a registered halfbred Hungarian Warmblood (1/2 QH), which we had never heard of until we got her. There are only around 200 of them in the U.S. She's such a sweetie! And she's smart too. She knows how to untie herself, and she gets into anything and everything. She had been started under saddle when we got her (had been ridden ~15 times) and walk/trot/cantered(on the correct lead) under saddle quietly. We have only been walking and some trotting, but haven't ridden her much at all. In the spring I plan to start riding her lightly maybe 2-3 days a week. She is impatient and sometimes wants to play with people! She also likes to rear and lunge forward with the farrier, but she's starting to realize that we're not giving in! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[wanderlust]

Hee hee... I love Shirley. I actually just got off the phone with her, and she's got a few more rejects coming up tomorrow. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

I sent Behr down to my trainer's last week for a month or two of boot camp. He learned how to lunge in side-reins in a single day- no fighting or fussing. But he's been a little confused under saddle, so I'll let Carrie get him a good start. In mid-March, he'll go to Shirley for a couple of weeks to get started over fences.

I'd like to get him out at novice in June or July, depending on what events are happening that month. Susan will probably be headed out about the same time. And thanks for the compliment- guess it is a good thing I acted fast, huh? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

How is Dan liking his training thus far?

~formerly Master Tally~

[Mchoss1]

Well I couldn't stand it anymore...
I bought a loose ring bit for Paige while out of town last weekend and ended up having to punch an extra hole on each side of her bridle so that it would fit her teeny head. Each night while she's getting groomed she wears her bridle and mouths the bit. Tonight she actually dropped her head when I went to put it on and played with it only briefly while I cleaned her up. I got out my step stool, laid across her back, tickling her sides, and bumping her with my leg as I swung it over her back. She couldn't have cared less so I got out a borrowed Abetta saddle and finished tacking her up. Bounced up and down on each side with a foot in the stirrups and then stood up in the stirrups above her. She was completely nonchalant so I went ahead and swung my leg on over and sat down. I took my foot back out of the stirrup so I could bail quickly if needed and just rubbed her all over from the saddle. Wheeeeeeee! My first sit on my little gal. Warning:
I stupidly did all this tonight alone in the barn. No one to call 911 or scoop up my brains if things went bad. And to top it all off, done while she was tied to the tack post in the barn. BO read me the riot act when I called her later to tell how wonderfully accepting Paige had been. I agreed, I did do a dumb thing. Yet... I DID IT and she was soooo very good. Over the next few weeks we'll go back to the round pen to work on carrying her head lower and the basics of line driving. She'll be 2 on Monday.
Melanie

[Leena]

Well Leena will turn 4 in late april. I have her since she is 1 and 1/2 yo.

I start her under saddle around 2.5 yo and she was amazing. The biggest problem I have face so far is those growing phase and everytime I had to let her free in the pasture. The last one was this fall when she went from 15.1 hands in august to almost 16 hands right now.

Her gaits are much much better now than ever, probably du to a better shoulder.
The last time I ride her she was really good and this fall I start trail with great success.
Dealing with cold weather, I will wait to february. Too cold right now.

On the training side, I don't ask much to a filly; going everywhere I want in the ring, stop, walk freely, a little bit of trot, some lead changes. 15-20 minutes. I want her to stand quiet while I get on her. This is it. Understanding of the leg, transfer of voice to leg. Little thing like that.

I put a big emphasis on attitude and respect.

Everytime I find horse goes through major mental change in the first years; probably like kid, they can be angel at 2 yo, devil at 3, nice sweety at 4, etc.

Patience and tolerance are so important.

[Paddys Mom]

Don't worry, Mchoss1, I did my first backing almost the same way, loose in the stall alone. I called my mom to brag about how wonderfully Lucy behaved about it and she freaked out. She made me promise that next time I would at least tell my husband what I was planning to do so that he would come look for me if I didn't come back into the house after a while. Of course, when I told my husband this, he said he would like to go watch in case it got "interesting". http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif I don't want it to be "interesting"! Then again, my non-horsey hubby's attitude is, "Of course she was good, you mess with her all the time and you don't let her get away with anything." He just doesn't understand that this doesn't always logically follow with horses, just like with kids! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

[Mchoss1]

I really wish I had my hands on Lestat at Paige's age. Granted I got him at four with great ground manners but not clue one about tack and being sat on. At 16 hands and nearly 1200 lbs he was well aware of his size and how to throw his weight around. Starting him under saddle wasn't that huge of a deal, but he still doesn't (now at 9yrs) believe I do know what is best for the both of us and challenges my "authoritah" often under saddle. Over the years he's mellowed but he won't ever be an easy ride, which is ok... but sometimes it gets old when you just want to have fun and putter around. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Paige shows all the signs of becoming my "whatever floats your boat" type of horse. She is something to look foward to, since I don't bounce like I used to do.
Melanie

[Perfect Pony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wanderlust:
And thanks for the compliment- guess it is a good thing I acted fast, huh? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, if I wouldn't have bought him, I have no doubt he would have been gone in a second as soon as someone else came out. I went to see Dan on a whim actually (cause I wanted a mare) and Shirley said "well I have someone else coming tomorrow, so I wrote a check after seeing him longe for 10 minutes! I DID ride him the next day though. I knew around Shirley's place they seem to go fast.

So when are you going to post some pictures for everyone to see? You haven't even shown him off yet http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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[wanderlust]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kali:
Yes, if I wouldn't have bought him, I have no doubt he would have been gone in a second as soon as someone else came out. I went to see Dan on a whim actually (cause I wanted a mare) and Shirley said "well I have someone else coming tomorrow, so I wrote a check after seeing him longe for 10 minutes! I DID ride him the next day though. I knew around Shirley's place they seem to go fast.

So when are you going to post some pictures for everyone to see? You haven't even shown him off yet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's how I bought the filly. Didn't even get on her, just saw her on the longe. And I pretty much knew I was going to buy her the second I saw her, before I even saw her go. Talk about love at first sight. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif She was going to keep her for herself, so I had to do a little bit of pleading, and I refused to leave the property until she got Leigh to agree to sell her to me. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Behr, OTOH, was love at first trot. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif He was a little plain-looking for my taste until I saw him move. I don't have any pictures of him yet, as he's a shaggy, hairy, dirty beast. I'll get some this weekend, hopefully after I get him clipped.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Well, Taylor has turned into Little Miss Witch! It has been raining like cats and dogs here since Sunday, so the last time I got to work with her was Friday.
I went out to feed last night and got right up in my face, literaly standing on me. I shoved her back and she pinned her ears and cranked her neck to try and bit my leg. I started the 3 second rule when she spun around and cow kicked. I grabbed a rock and chunked it at her. I went back in the barn and grabbed the longe whip to tote with me. Of course as soon as she saw it she turned into a little angel.

Im begining to figure out why people dont like mares! She wont think about doing anything with the SO...he hit her with her feed bucket when she tried it with him. Its like she tests me all the time to see how far she can oush me before I snap....AAAAAHHHHHHHH!

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[rosijet]

RTXJ - I feel your pain! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I took on a coming two yr old foster filly who has a huge chip on her shoulder and a hot temper. She has kicked, bit and postured since day one. BUT! I think we're over the alpha hump. I never enter her pen without my trusty, small diameter pvc pole. The first time she kicked at me (I'm talking full force, aiming for the kill, kicking), I gave her the three second smack across the rump and hocks. She spun around to face me with WIDE open eyes and once she started the lick/chew, she approached me quietly with nice little forward ears. I did the same with the ears pinned/biting stuff and for the last two days, she's been an absolute angel!

What I like about the pole is it won't actually hurt them, it's lightweight and long for ease of use, and they then don't associate the whip with "bad" things since I use a whip as an aid in training rather than for punishment.

But it has reinforced the mare thing we hear so much about! I've given my geldings lots more pats of appreciation lately! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Might have to try that pvc pole idea! How long is it?

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[rosijet]

I would guess it's about 5 1/2 feet long? Long enough to not get me hurt! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif And I should clarify the type of pole - it's a material used in plumbing water lines (hubby has a hot tub business) so it's not the typical white pvc. This stuff is more durable and less apt to crack in the cold. The color is grey and it's about 1 1/2 inches in diameter so lightweight. I store it right outside her pen so I don't forget to take it in with me.

I think my next horse will be a 20 year old draft cross! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"Crazy is just another point of view" Sonia Dada

[middy]

Hannah is comming 2 in April (knock on wood)and Lucky for me I haven't seen any of the terrible two's. She is still very laid back and wonderful to work with. I did get on her this fall and walked around with no problem. Now I am waiting until spring to get back on. She still gets groomed daily and you can do anything to this girl. I am praying she stays this way. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

I have a feeling this is going to be a LONG winter..and an even longer year for me when it comes to Taylor. Oh to be able to look into her little witchy brain and see whats going on!

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[ClipClop]

My 3 y/o Haffie is three months under saddle, and we just got him back from the trainers last Monday. Thank goodness he came back with a much better attitude and lost his enjoyment of bulldozing people. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Basically our lessons focus on maintaining "whoa" and lots and lots of downward transitions. Of course, any thing going on outside the arena offers plenty of distractions... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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[camohn]

I have ones that are 1,2 and 3. 1 and 2 are sadly underhandled as the now 3 year old knew zero when we bought him last year and we needed to show him as he is Mr. Studly: so all free time spent with him. Now that we are frozen in would be a good time to work with the yearling since he IS actually for sale and need to make him look better in case someone ventures out to look at him. The 2 year old is not for sale....so will likely remain at the bottom of the training heap until she is 3. If I magically get some extra time I'd like to get her whippped into shape to show at DAD in the fall. I can hope.........!!!!

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[Lexus]

My two year old Hann/Th gelding(soon to be 3 in April) has done nothing since I backed him lightly this fall (walk/trot). He'll be started back up in May. Right now he's enjoying his cold winter of leisure.

[seal]

I have a Dutch gelding who will be 3 in April. He didn't know much when I bought him at 2 1/2, but since then he has been trailered twice, he bathes, clips, stands like a gentlemen in the cross ties most days, and picks up his feet.

I taught him to pick up his feet when I bend over, grab a foot and say "Up". It really works. You just have to be both patient and consistent.

The first time I tried getting him to pick up his front feet, he tried to put it back down by bowing. I just held on and went with his movement. I think he was shocked that I didn't back down by dropping his foot, and now he doesn't do it anymore. Oh, the joys of owning a young horse. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Actually, having a 2 year old has really helped me develop patience. There are days when he has a cow and gets freaked about about birds flying out of a tree, or the wind, or kids playing nearby. I just ignore it and do my best to comfort him. Eventually, he will calm down when he sees that I am not upset and then I tell him "Good Boy!" He really seems to respond to verbal praise.

It has also given me an ENORMOUS amount of confidence, which I find really counter-intuitive as most people say that only a schoolmaster can help you develop confidence. I have never worked with a horse this young or green.

Has anyone else had the same positive experinence or am I just exceedingly lucky?

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Well, Friday I longed her and she was VERY well behaved. She didnt really try any of her airs above the ground. But since then, just walking around,not really messing with her,shes a witch.

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Ok, so now Taylor has decieded that she doesnt want her feet trimmed! I have never seen her be so bad! She bounced around like her feet were on fire! It took two hours to get all four feet trimmed! It was awful, I felt so bad for my farrier, he must think I am the worlds worst horse mom!
She has never done this before, and I picked out her feet not 10 minutes before he got there!

This is so frustrating, one day shes a perfect little angel, the next shes a witch on hooves!

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[Nikki^]

Ok update! Thank you RTXH for telling me to get into the action about my filly. I went to pick my filly's feet and when I got to the back one she tried to take it away. Jennifer said "Hold on to it" and I did. Kiki tried to sit on her butt, but the halter put pressure on her poll and she couldn't sit down. I held it until she stop struggling and then she was perfect! I groomed her from head to toe and she stood still as a statue! What a good girl!

Well just as I thought it was going to be fine and dandy I took her to her stall (it was feeding time). She lead like a champ, stopping at my shoulder when I stopped without any pressure at all! I put her in her stall, gave hay and then she decides to jump out of the stall! Didn't make it and knock the door down. It was a light metal small gate do she didn't hurt herself. She wanted to be with her buds who were still outside. On the bright side, her knees were to her eyeballs and they were square and even.http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Anna saw the whole thing too and she was cool about it. She even told me a story about how her baby tried to jump out if his stall. Ed fixed the stall door (it broke at the hinges) without any problems.

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Taylor has jumped out of her stall too. She can barely see over it, but she made it with out a scratch!

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[Anticipation]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Raven's Wing:
Raven will be 2 in May. She lunges, baths, will let me clipper her ears and bridle bath but you can forget the whiskers (and since she is turned out all the time I really don't want them off anyway), she leads, loads and trailors like a trooper, has had a saddle on her back (which she thought was a bore and waste of time), stands for the farrier,

My plans are to back her this July. Just get on, sit and walk around. Then she will have next winter to chill and we will go further the next summer when she is a solid 3 year old.

All sounds hunky dorrey. Ha! She is a big bruiser and has to be reminded on a regular basis that she can't throw her weight around and be in charge. She is around 15.2 now (in front) but has some bulk to go with it. She also is very oral -- we are working on it. She isn't allowed treats out of people's hands (never really has been) but boy is she mouthy.

Babies -- gotta love them -- well sometimes. LOL<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your mare sounds like my stallion! He will be 2 in May, 16.1, I imported him from Holland. and he is a dream to work with. He free lunges, knows voice commands, stands like a dream for mane pulling and clipping, wears a surcingle, bathes like a pro etc. He is fearless. Nothing phases him. He is SOOOO smart (maybe too smart). I can't put a blanket on him because he tears it off. He jumped out of the 5' round pen, he dumps his water bucket for fun and screams for more water. But he likes to test his limits. He bites....A LOT. With everything else, I smack him on the butt or neck and yell "NO" and he'll stop (ie: pawing, lifting his hind leg like he is going to kick).....but he WILL NOT STOP BITING. I try to make him respect my space, but sometimes he is just awful. He is being sent to a BNT on March 1st to be shown on the line and trained so that my baby boy will have some good manners! Hopefully he will turn out like his daddy, Voltaire!

When does everyone start free jumping their stallion prospects?

here he is....The picture is a little dark. you may have to lighten it on your computer!
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[This message was edited by Anticipation on Feb. 03, 2004 at 11:50 PM.]

[This message was edited by Anticipation on Feb. 03, 2004 at 11:50 PM.]

[sbock]

Anticipation: How and when did you decide to send your guy to a BNT? My boy will be 2 in May as well and has just been logging time in a pasture with other boys. I have high hopes for my boy (hoping he'll be a good jumper like his mommy and daddy)(Adith and Indoctro). But, I don't know when to send him off to the working world?? Don't want to start before his bones fuse and his mind is ready. He's a warmblood, I think they do better starting later. Sadly, his pasture mates are all thoroughbreds and they get started at 2, so he'll need to find a new home. We are in Northern Calif. Love this thread. Any thoughts?

[Leena]

Hello SBock,

My mare is warmblood too and while I have tried to give her pasture from one place to another, I also spent 1 hour everyday, grooming, teaching her all the basics. Then at 2.5 yo I start her under saddle 15 minutes at the time. Then I let her in the pasture for the winter and I did some works last summer.
If you are looking for BNT, then make sure your boy knows the basics (lunging, give legs, walk under leach, load, clip, etc) and is nice to handle. Starting a horse under saddle and working a horse are two different things for me. I personnaly like to take my time and make sure my mare has been through all the basics before going to another step.

Good luck your your boy !!!

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I worked Taylor on Sunday. We longed for about 15 minutes total. she was REALLY good to the left, she nailed "WALK" and "WHOA" like she never has before. We did a little "TROT" and she was great. Switched to the right and everything fell apart. She started leaning in, getting close, tossing her head up and tipping her nose in. "WHOA" seemed to have been forgotten and of course that led to a faster walk and her working herself up. I attached another line to her outside and ran it over her back. Our circle turned into a larger one, as I walked with her. She got better, but we just did a time or two a nice walk around then stopped. She would get to one spot and start to do her "airs above the ground" I really hate this. I pushed her through this spot and really had to make sure I was ready for her when we got to it.

Could it just be one sidedness or maybe something else? Her teeth? I work her in her bridle, but with a halter over it, which is what the lines are attached to, so I dont hold onto her mouth if she starts acting up.

Any suggestions?

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[Paddys Mom]

I'd bet she is unbalanced in that direction. We all tend to make our horses one-sided. I'd start out in that direction and spend twice as much time on that side as on the left. I think you're doing the right thing by moving her forward when she acts up. I would continue to use two lines so she can't cut in and continue connecting the lines to the halter since she will be hitting the ends of the lines hard while she has her fits.

It definitely sounds like she is improving though, so don't get discouraged! Our weather is so terrible that Lucy hasn't seen a lunge line in months.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

It poured the other day, and is supposed to start again tomorrow. there goes any hopes of riding this weekend and working more with her!

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[Perfect Pony]

RTXJ,
I think all horses have their little 'things'. Dan is so good for grooming in the crossties and the farrier loves him, he just stands and soaks everything up....UNTIL...the clippers! He hates having his whiskers clipped (he is fine everywhere else on his body but his whiskers). And it's not the clippers themself, he goes bonkers even if you cut just one whisker with scissors. He scrunches up his whole face and just freaks out, throwing his head everywhere and just being a menace. I have rubbed clippers and scissors all over his face, cut his bridle path, he's fine. But cut ONE whisker.

He can also be a big PITA on the lunge too, and is also really one sided. Lunging in an arena is the biggest pain, as at least once a session he does a bolt - throw the head - bolt out of the circle - pull you accross the arena. He could be going around a complete angel, then WHAM! It's turned into such a game with him he is back in the round pen in a halter with a chain over his nose. Both my trainer and I feel it's just his late-gelding, intimidation tactics. He hasn't a mean bone in his body, but boy does he want to test (and test and test and test).

Anyway, just wanted to post the negatives so you wouldn't feel alone. There are a million postives as well. He is dead quite while riding, already is totally unphased by anything, goes round naturally, and is so well balanced that he has cantered a less than 10 meter circle around my on the lunge (non intentionally, I wanted him to stop!).

I just think this is the joy of a greenie!

"Dan the Man" (http://community.webshots.com/user/kalitude)

[Leena]

I notice when those beautiful babies are in growing phase, they inbalanced and all of the sudden, would buck on everything.
Just have to be patient....they are babies for a long time. Just building confidence should be in fact the most important thing.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Well, I think with all the rain, she wont be backed until this summer. I want to reinforce "WHOA" abd get her used to the feel of pressure on her mouth, which I am afriad to do now by the way she is acting on the longe. Would side reins help at all? Or just make it worse?

What about a western side pull for when she is backed?

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[Fred]

all I have right now are 4 babies, rising yearlings.. 3 fillies and one colt. They all lead nicely, pick up their feet, tie.. the colt got a cut, so he has had to be treated, and he is just a sweetie - I can clean, dress and wrap it without tying him up.
3 of them are full TBs, by A Fine Romance (2 fillies, and the colt) and the other filly is TB/Hol out of my full sister to AFR. All they are doing right now is going outside and eating! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif They are all really nice babies, I'm happy to say. Look like wooly caterpillars right now, so NO PICTURES! LOL

[Paddys Mom]

RTXJ I say just take your time. Trust your gut to make it right and solid.

Anyone else have their baby's teeth checked yet? The vet checked Lucy today and found 2 razor sharp wolf teeth which she pulled. She had to sedate her first and Lucy tried to chew the vet's hands off the whole time and she was GROWLING. I had never heard of horses growling before but she was making this low throaty sound and I asked the vet if she was ok. The vet laughed and explained that she was growling and said that usually indicates a temper. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

Meanwhile, I nearly passed out watching her try to get these teeth out. She gave them to me to keep. Yuck! They have really long roots. The vet said we should pull them now since I already regularly bridle Lucy.

Poor Lucy laid flat out on her side after we finished. I was a little worried since I have never had to get a horse sedated before. But about 1 hour later, she jumped up and asked for her dinner. I made it all nioce and mushy with hot water and I could tell she wasn't crazy about it.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

So...HOW ARE THEY DOING?!?!?!

Taylor has two wolf teeth that need to be pulled. She had her yearly check up last week and has been cleared to be backed. She has grown to just over 15 hands at teh wither and 15 at the butt...and man is she shedding out to the most beautiful bay!!!

She jumped out of herstall AGAIN last weekend...leaving some nice skined up scratches on her hind legs. Never touched her front legs or her belly!

I backed her for the first time on Sunday. She was great! We have been working hard at ground driving and its really helped with the voice commands!!

So...how are ya'lls doing?

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Anyone?

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[Lianne]

My coming 2-year-old (May) is doing great. Shedding like nobody's business (anyone want a 5' x 5' horse hair throw rug???), and getting sooo big (16hh at last measure!). Still well-behaved and sweet, but I can see the terrible twos a' comin'. In the last few months she's gotten a bit mouthier and pushier, but nothing dramatic.
She still listens very well and when I took her out for a handwalk down the road last week, there was lots of snorting and blowing, but no spooks, no spins or pulling back. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Can't wait to take her back out to the line shows this year! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[PaulaM]

well, I have to share the news about my rising 3 year old who I had lots of problems with last year (in July she was diagnosed with OCD and the beginnings of arthritis in the first joint of her pastern and was really lame),

Anyway, she has been sound since December and my vet was out on Saturday to look at her teeth and gave the OK to start doing lots of ground work with her. I don't plan on backing her until next year (when she's almost 4, as the bloodlines she is from are notoriously slow in growth)

[Perfect Pony]

I have huge updates

Dan was moved from his barn back to Petaluma the first of the month (next door to the woman I bought him from). Within 12 hours all his hives were gone! I spent 3 months and close to $1000 in vet bills battling hives, and it turns out he was allergic to the barn! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

He was *supposed* to live in a pasture for a while. 2 days out to pasture and he gives me a little present View the carnage! (http://community.webshots.com/album/124522029ranALl)

So...I spent 10 days treating his nice little boo boo. He now lives in a stall at night, and is being turned out during the day. He also has a new barn nickname "the porcelain pony!"

I did get to ride him last week and he was awesome. He is so forward and light to the aids he is just a joy. He was a bit animated as he really wants to go back out into the pasture and fight some more, but he was listening, his transitions are naturally balanced, he goes in such a nice, balanced, uphill way, and has such a natural round "frame" I just love him when he's being good. I will be having the women who sold him to me ride him 1-2 times a week, and will start lessons with her this weekend.

Oh, and in typical 3yo style, he has decided the pulling back in the crossties is fun ever since he was spooked and the halter broke (after having been crosstied about a million times in his life). Last week I think we made progress though, as he didn't break the halter, and just sat there on his rear pulling on the crossties, looking at me with this confused look on his face. I grabbed the lead, pulled him forward, sighed a few times, and gave him a bath, him standing perfectly for 20-30 minutes in the crossties a bit bummed he wasn't able to make his escape that time.

Gotta love these TB teenagers http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-Kali-
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[Mayhem]

Mine is coming 2 in June. He is getting very big, they grow so fast.
We are getting ready for our first inhand show of the year in June. I think the terrible twos are coming also if there is such a thing, he has decided he hates the vet and he was just fine last year. He has also decided that pulling mane is no good either. He still loves walking and trotting along the fields with me though so I am thankful for that!!!

[middy]

My comming two year old filly is doing well. She is 15.1hh at the sholder and 16hh at the hip. She has been backed and has been on her first trail ride.see us in the middle (http://community.webshots.com/photo/123975441/123976290IsHXwZ)
She hasn't really ever given me any trouble(I hope it lasts)

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[relocatedTXjumpr]

Well. Taylro seems to be over the terrible twos for now. WE will see. She gets her wolf teeth pulled next thursday and then we will start more training the next week.

Thanks for the updates!!

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[Erin Pittman]

Rosie will be 2 in May. She's the sweetest thing EVER - just like her mom! I had planned on starting her lightly under saddle this summer, but unless she starts looking less baby-ish, I'll hold off. I do plan on starting her with long-lines, though. We work now mostly on PATIENCE - standing tied without pawing and dancing around. I have no problem clipping the bridle path or ears, but she tries to eat the clippers when I do her schnoz. Stands nicely for the farrier. I gave her her spring shots this morning without a halter or leadrope - again, stands nicely. She's very cute - will follow me around the pasture, stop when I stop, back up when I back up, etc. Her biggest issue that is causing me endless exasperation is mouthiness - she's ALWAYS been mouthy - has to taste everything. I was wearing a rather large jacket the other day and was putting hay out in the pasture. Rosie was being her usual self following me, but I didn't notice until I stopped that she had the back of my jacket in her mouth the whole time!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Baaaad horse. I love her to death! I posted my favorite photo of her from last year below. Have to wait for her to do some more shedding and for the mud to dry up before I take more for this year! Don't mind my bad fashion...I always wear sweats to do barn chores...don't know why.

Erin

[Mchoss1]

Since I last checked in Paige has been getting ready for the first open show of the year. Mostly halter training and exercise but I'm contemplating entering her in showmanship so we've been working on learning to pivot et al. One day I saddled her up and headed out to the round pen. It was too tempting. I ended up getting up on her again and asking her to walk. It involved a lot of tap tap tap tap with the rein ends. But she couldn't have cared less and I kept it short and sweet. Because I was alone at that time, when more people showed up at the barn I asked a friend to take some pictures for her album. So for your viewing pleasure. Paige's first ride part II (http://community.webshots.com/photo/97148530/126138575sXsBQM)
It rained 4 inches Sunday night so she's stall bound until the water recedes. More practice on pivoting I guess...
Melanie

[Mchoss1]

Oh and about dental work. I had Paige's wolf teeth pulled and the remainder floated in anticipation of bridling her just prior to her turning two. She had roots to her eyeballs. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I kept them.
Though she couldn't care less about the whole riding thing I won't be doing much until she's a bit more mature because of her size. Last time I checked she was 14 hands up front. She's big and broad, but she's still a midget.
M-

[Sparky22]

I have a 3 y/o TB colt that I have to break when I get home in May. I also have another who is coming on 3 (gelded the other day http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) who needs to be broke as well. They won't be doing much - but it's time for them to be big boys.

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[rosijet]

Simon, my coming three year old, is learning the basics of lunging (just walk/trot/whoa), carries a saddle and bridle, moves his hindquarters with a single tap and accepts my leaning across his back. No problems yet at all. He figured out whoa REALLY quickly and is just a sweet ol' sponge to work with!

Then there's Jett. Ugh! Turning two next month and going through his terrible two's. He has suddenly forgotten how to lead, tries to posture with me and has a cocky attitude. And to add insult, I spotted my non-horsey hubby messing with him the other day! Led him, tied him, brushed him - no problem! Ignorance IS bliss!

"Crazy is just another point of view" Sonia Dada

[relocatedTXjumpr]

rosijett, I feel your pain!! Taylor thinks my SO is a GOD and I am the wicked witch. She is so good for him and pulls crap with me. She is a daddys girl I guess.

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[caffeinated]

Not much of note to report, except that he's gotten much much much better about his feet and was perfect for the farrier last weekend.

And we've been working on getting him used to stuff- been taking him out by the road to see the scary cars and take a look at the construction work being done on the house... When the weather gets nice again (consistently) we'll be cleaning him up more and clipping him to look purty.

He now has his very own bridle and bit, and looks adorable (well, duh...)

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[Leena]

Well Leena is looking for her 4th birthday, late april. She is still growing !!!! Which I am very please of it. In mid may she should give birth and then after weaning, I going to start the real working.
I am amazed to see how a shoulders has developped and her gaits are more loose and big.
Finally I got the twist how to stop her from playing on the lunge but frankly I have not been doing a lot.
I let her enjoying the last 3 pregnancy's months.

My Canadian mare is doing great after I found a couple of month she might need supplements. The results are amazing; bright eyes, smooth coat, better energy.

[Roisin]

My girl's 2yo birthday is tomorrow!

It was a pretty uneventful winter. Had her wolf teeth knocked out a couple of months ago. That went fine...vet said she was very good, and she didn't have any problems afterward.

Been doing some free longeing in the arena so she won't get too blimpy. It's great to have an indoor to play in...between the ice and the mud they do an awful lot of standing around in the pasture! The blimping-out seemed to be a precursor to another growth spurt. All of a sudden she's 15.2!

Last week we had wrestlemania night to get her legs and face clipped and her mane pulled. She was actually pretty good. Not in love with the clippers, especially around her ears, but getting better! Knocked the mud off her on Sunday and went to her first sporthorse in-hand class at a local schooling show. She won the first blue ribbon of the year for our barn!! And she was a pretty good girl, too, which made us very proud. We needed an outing because next month she is representing her breed (IDSH) at the Minnesota Horse Expo. I think she will love it being the social butterfly that she is!

Anxiously waiting to see if the "terrible twos" kicks in!

[Nikki^]

Kioko is going great! She loves her grooming sessions and she just loves it when I curry her belly. She falls asleep when I groom her legs and she picks her feet up without any problems; Even the farrier commented on how well she behaves.

She is almost shed out and she has the shinest coat I have ever seen. I haven't bathed her yet but she is so clean. She playes with me in the pasture and nickers at me. AWWWWW!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifShe is so sweet!!!! She always wants you to groom her face and play with her.

She also had a growth spurt and she is looking so lovely! After she has her mane pulled I'll take some pictures.

I'm so proud of her!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kioko (http://www.geocities.com/area51/crater/5267/HeartofGold.html)

Look up your TB's bloodlines (http://www.dmtc.com/dmtc98/Pedigree/)

What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAP!!!!

[PaintedCash]

Well, though Cash is 3 according to APHA, his birthday is in early May. So he's just about 3 now. he was being so so bad for a while. He hasn't been on trail for about a month. We've just been doing arena work because he's been a snot about backing and bending. Last night we did a few rollbacks and he's actually learning really fast. We'll work more on that today. He wasn't so great for his third pair of shoes, but it had been raining and he hadn't been out for 2 days, so I don't blame him for it.
Other than that, he's a good baby. A few issues, but I feel very lucky.
Good luck with all your youngsters!

~*Beth

Don't fear failure so much that you refuse to try new things.
The saddest summary of a life contains three descriptions: could have, might have, and should have.