horse psychics [Archive] - Page 3

nightsong

Dec. 17, 2003, 03:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by alabama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
He's nervous SOMETIMES. Like when a strange something-or-other-from-the-sky shows up and asks him something that to him is ????? and he's trying desperately to give the right answer(because it's coming from YOU and he LOVES you). Really, there's something that he THINKS you want from him (I get that it's a training issue, gaits perhaps? he doesn't know. Maybe you punished him for something and he didn't know what it was and *guessed* wrong, but he's pretty worried about it. You know, it's a really rare instance for him. He's proud of that, of being your GOOD riding horse. That may be why this takes such importance for him. Whatever, he's worried, and I don't know that this is something humans can even figure out; he's made such a, frankly, ludicrous connection between your punishment and what he thinks he may have done. And a "punishment" is just something like a leg on him) that he's completely baffled and it's consuming his brain.

Edited to add: I asked again about his new barn, and he says that it's nice, he likes his friends. He's showing me the metal bar gate where he goes out, that's the single most importantt thing in his life.
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How big is that metal bar gate?

And it's funny that you say he's worried about some punishment. I can't remember the last time that I actually had to correct him about anything. He's terribly well behaved. Pawed a little tied to my trailer when I hauled him to meet the farrier yesterday at a strange barn. I growled at him and he quit. Hmm...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It was when you were riding and you put your leg on him and told him to stop. Stop what? is the question.

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alabama

Dec. 17, 2003, 04:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
It was when you were riding and you put your leg on him and told him to stop. Stop what? is the question.
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Can't imagine. He doesn't need leg to go forward - mostly just use the for turning. Can't remember ever trying to tell him to stop something by using a leg. It'd be counterproductive. He's a very forward guy. Leg just adds to that.

Really was hoping to learn if he missed his old home and if one of the horses at the new place talked smack at him over the fence.

nightsong

Dec. 17, 2003, 04:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by alabama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
It was when you were riding and you put your leg on him and told him to stop. Stop what? is the question.
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Can't imagine. He doesn't need leg to go forward - mostly just use the for turning. Can't remember ever trying to tell him to stop something by using a leg. It'd be counterproductive. He's a very forward guy. Leg just adds to that.

Really was hoping to learn if he missed his old home and if one of the horses at the new place talked smack at him over the fence.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I told you he misinterpreted. But it really bothers him.

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Carolinela

Dec. 17, 2003, 04:41 PM

Noralhee, Sigfried is jet black with a white snippet. Can you try again?

nightsong

Dec. 17, 2003, 04:46 PM

sorry, I'm tired, so I gave you that color information to make sure. I'm very glad I did. I'll be back.

alabama

Dec. 17, 2003, 04:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by alabama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
It was when you were riding and you put your leg on him and told him to stop. Stop what? is the question.
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Can't imagine. He doesn't need leg to go forward - mostly just use the for turning. Can't remember ever trying to tell him to stop something by using a leg. It'd be counterproductive. He's a very forward guy. Leg just adds to that.

Really was hoping to learn if he missed his old home and if one of the horses at the new place talked smack at him over the fence.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I told you he misinterpreted. But it really bothers him.
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Well, if you get anything more concrete let me know.

So he doesn't have anything to say about the old place or his new pasture buddies

nightsong

Dec. 17, 2003, 05:18 PM

May I ask later, alabama? I'm pretty burned out now. I didn't ask specifically about the pasture buddies or the old place; I can do that. Sorry it's taking longer than you want to get the specific answers. I've found that horses do really well with the specific questions, but often get lost with the general ones. And being unfamiliar with your situation, I never know quite what to ask.

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Lianne

Dec. 17, 2003, 05:58 PM

*lol* verve, re-LAX. I think most of us are just doing this for fun, it doesn't do any harm (or at least it shouldn't). I was just curious, and she could just as easily have told me "no, your mare is content just grazing and being with other horses, she doesn't miss the jumping", would it have been THAT farfetched an answer??

propspony

Dec. 17, 2003, 06:06 PM

hey Norahlee, I was wondering if whenever you weren't tired if you could ask my girl Annie a question for me....

When I bought my girl Annie for some reason deep down I knew that while she was my "special" horse, she wasn't going to be my "riding" horse... but she would have a baby someday, and he would be. There was nothing physically wrong with her to warrant such a thought, it just came http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I've had her for over 6 years now and while she has always been willing... I just get the feeling that she doesn't want to be a riding horse. For me she is one of the happiest most willing horses in the world, but under saddle she just seems so unhappy. With a saddle, without... it doesn't matter. Now being ponied along on a trail ride is a whole 'nother story http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif That's fun!

I knew the second I saw the stallion that *he* was the one, in fact it was one of the most bizarre feelings I've ever had...

So I guess I'm just wondering what Annie thinks of this whole thing, she herself was an orphan would this affect anything? She also makes it very very clear that I am HER person, and she isn't very fond of sharing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif What would happen if another horse (even one she produced) got thrown into the equation?

thank you so much for doing this, you're a saint =)

propspony

"They may offer you fortune and fame, love and money and instant acclaim. But whatever they offer you... Don't feed the plants"

alabama

Dec. 17, 2003, 06:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
May I ask later, alabama? I'm pretty burned out now. I didn't ask specifically about the pasture buddies or the old place; I can do that. Sorry it's taking longer than you want to get the specific answers. I've found that horses do really well with the specific questions, but often get lost with the general ones. And being unfamiliar with your situation, I never know quite what to ask.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, ask whenever you want. I never said anything about a timeline, though. I'm not looking for anything in a particular time. I just asked a specific question about how he liked his new home. I don't think that's a general question.
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WHS

Dec. 17, 2003, 06:41 PM

Norahlee, when your feeling better,if you get a chance,could you ask my mare Tara what is bothering her? I get the feeling it is mental anguish not physical.I tried on several occasions to talk to her "face to face" but she turns away.Maybe she's disgusted with me because I don't hear what she's saying?

Cisco's_Mom

Dec. 17, 2003, 06:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Cisco's_Mom:
Hi norahlee,

This is SO interesting! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif I wanted to contact an AC with my previous horse. I loved him so much (still do) and tried SO HARD to make our working relationship a success.... but I just couldn't seem to get it right. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif We were very happy working together on the ground (lots of love and affection), but when I rode him we had many problems. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif I still believe he has a LOT of potential, and can be a very competitive horse someday. So, I've sold him to a new rider, hoping they will "click", and he will have his chance to shine.

Can you tell me what was wrong? Why did he behave so badly when I was trying so hard? Or was he NOT behaving badly, but reacting to something I was doing wrong? Was he in pain? Did he dislike something I was doing? Did I mis-intrepret his reactions? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Anything you can tell me is greatly appreciated! Thank you so much!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He says you two were never very happy, it's just that horses are much harder to read on the ground than when you have so much of your body in contact with him. He didn't match you. End of story
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Can you tell me if he's happy at his new home?

Also, is my new horse a better match for me?

Monique

Dec. 17, 2003, 07:48 PM

Hi norahlee I'm really intrigued by your gift. Could you ask my horse Shadow a few questions?

Does he like his eggbar shoes? Do they hurt his feet?
Does the new saddle fit properly? The tackstore said it did, but I think it might be too big.

I don't expect you to answer right away, you've been so busy today, you must be worn out!!! When you feel up to it, I'd really appreciate you talking with Shadow.

Thanks!!
-Monique-

Painted Joe

Dec. 17, 2003, 08:52 PM

Norahlee - I have just one quick question and it my seem rather strange but.....

Did Annie and Imagine try to communicate to me today? Images came to mind when I groomed them both today and they seemed rather " different" in an almost too good to be true way. I felt it more with Annie than with Imagine.

Member of the Western Clique, Quarter Horse Clique and Stallion Clique

Owner of and slave to a small herd - Indio Joe (Paint Stallion), Im A Skip (AppY Gelding), You Cant Imagine (QH mare), and Miss Orphanannie Two (QH mare)

http://community.webshots.com/user/katomcree

Added pics of my other three horses I had - Pahrump Playpoy, Cree's Tom Boy and Shuggy's Graceful Lady

DarkerHorse

Dec. 17, 2003, 09:06 PM

Erin, can you please save this thread in the favorite's forum when it's done?

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It's all over now baby blue..

Ishi

Dec. 17, 2003, 10:28 PM

Norahlee, when you get a chance could you ask my horse a question for me? This is my first horse and all I want is for him to be happy! He just switched jobs and I want to know if he's enjoying his new job or if it hurts him (physically I guess) or if he'd like to go back to the way things were last year. Cool, thanks. BTW, I had an A/C talk to my dog, and it was really neat to hear what my dog had to say about me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

One more, this is silly, but does he wish he had less white on him? I am a grooming fanatic and I wonder if I annoy him brushing his legs all the time keeping them white?

maggiemae

Dec. 18, 2003, 04:55 AM

I would like to just make a few comments about the reading that Norahlee did with my mare. I was floored by her response. Dalriada, I have had horses that I knew I didn't match with -- I found them a new home and moved on. I have had my mare for almost 3 years, and this is the first one that I have had that I felt that we matched. I was curious to see what the response would be.

When I went to the barn last night, my mare was rather aloff with me (normally she comes right over to the gate and greats me). I went into her stall and asked her if it was true, she didn't think we were a match. She walked over to me, blew into my ear and then put her head on my chest (and she stood like that for several minutes). I'm not really sure how to interpret this response -- except to think that she is trying to tell me that she is happy with me. Maybe this is just me trying to convince myself that I've found that one horse for my life.

My other questions, that were not answered, where because I have concerns about whether she is happy with her surroundings. When I got her, she looked like she had been neglected some (ribby, out of shape, long mane, feet needed to be done desperately). I have worked very hard to make her happy and comfortable. The last thing I want is to be doing something that is hurting her or not making her happy. This mare has given me her heart and soul (or so I thought) over the years.

I find this whole topic to be interesting, and yet, I'm not sure that I truly believe it. I just don't know what to think.....

LMH

Dec. 18, 2003, 05:56 AM

maggiemae-the power of suggestion-it was suggested to you that you are not a match so now all these things will jump out at you to prove it true.

You horse doesn't speak-she never spoke with someone yesterday, she never "told" anyone she wasn't happy...please don't take something like this to heart and let it affect how you view your horse.

It sounds like you did a wonderful thing by getting this mare and I am sure she is a world better by coming into your life.

Just don't let the power of suggestion take over and ruin this for you.

Dalriada

Dec. 18, 2003, 06:14 AM

Interesting that the 'disbelievers' are still faithfully reading this thread (every last page of it). Are they truely disbeliever or are they 'believers' who must see scientific proof before they become converted?

I have a scientific background and didn't 'believe' in many alternative/ complimentary therapies but I have seen enough to know that we don't all view things the same. Who knew that magnetic therapy (last resort before putting horse down) would turn one of my horse's lives around - horse didn't have preconceived notions (unlike most humans) - would I still say it is hogwash! No, I just say I don't understand it or how it works but it did make an improvement so who and I to comment.

I have never seen electricity working but I have seen the results of someone's theory that it would work. Do I 'believe' 100% in electricity? - no, but I certainly am dependent upon it.

Maybe our disbelievers should not tune in to this thread and leave those of us who are:
a) asking questions because of a desire to learn and improve
b) learning how to better communicate with out 4 legged friends
c) finding some good/bad out of someone's free efforts
d) having fun

Most humans try and put human thoughts and reactions onto horse's behaviour. If we weren't trying to communicate better or better understand them then why are the 'natural horsemanship' clincians doing so well. Is an A/C any different then their 'herd' instinct spiel?

"I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do something I can do." - Helen Keller

equinelaundry

Dec. 18, 2003, 06:33 AM

Well put D.

There are skeptics everywhere. You have your brain surgeon who will claim that a person is "dead" but 8 months later is walking, talking, etc. You have your people who will not believe anything if it's not in a book or proven by science. The wonders of the world get lost and so do some people.

We shouldn't argue with these people - we should feel sorry for them. Miracles happen every moment of every day - some just don't want to see them
and they lose out on so much of the little things in life.

Rocky XVI

Dec. 18, 2003, 07:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by elsa:
I don't know how you keep this up, Norahlee, but as long as you are willing.....

There is a mare in my care, but she is not mine. I would like to make her more comfortable?

Could you please ask her this question: What are you looking for?

~posting my way from working hunter to grand prix~<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What a nice mare. She is so mature, calm, comfortable AND comforting. I love her. She would like to be with you for life. That's what she's been BEGGING you for.

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Love is all there is<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wrong horse, norahlee. Please try again. BTW is the mature mare you connected to above in foal?

~posting my way from working hunter to grand prix~

katarine

Dec. 18, 2003, 07:16 AM

I'm reading b/c I'm curious.

I was told the horse needed professional attention paid to his feet. 'Wow' was her comment on how desperately he needs professional attention to his feet.

Well, I unprofessionally longed him for about 5 min. in both directions last night after his supper- sound as a dollar, even stride, soft eye. Cleaned those feet, no stink, no sore spots, no heat or tenderness. This AM, he was trotting that fence again, happy eyed, hungry, and not the least bothered by his feet.

Oh, and my farrier is my vet's husband. I'm thinking he knows what he's doing, and that horse has NEVER EVER had any vet, any farrier, comment on the trouble his feet are in. Over the years I've used probably 6 or 7 farriers. Did you hear that? NO vet, no farrier, has ever expressed any concern ABOUT HIS FEET. EVER. I've owned him for coming up on 7 years.

Chew on that. I'm thinking Nora's an alias of someone here with no ill intent, no desire to hurt anyone, but someone who reads COTH enough to peg plenty of people, and guess well on the others.

"Shoot me now! Shoot me now!"
Bugs Bunny

verve

Dec. 18, 2003, 07:25 AM

Carolinela - thanks for letting me know how sad I am:-)
I just think that someone who is not qualified to make or give over-the-internet veterinary and horse health advice is and everyone is actually believing and possible using this information. This woman has never even seen your horse- get real- this is a dangerous situation! You can say that I am a definite non-believer of over the Internet physic advice. Of course I listen to my horses, but this woman and her statements are very dangerous. My horses always get alternative treatments that have real results. This thread does nothing but indicate how silly horse people look to the rest of the world, and stupid if we all believe that someone over the Internet can see a bone chip that a vet can't with an x-ray. I hope no one is sending money for this ludicrous advice.

Oh and how would a young horse know what a “father figure is”. That is a human phrase. I could go on but I am wasting too much time. Be careful everyone. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 07:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by katarine:
I'm reading b/c I'm curious.

I was told the horse needed professional attention paid to his feet. 'Wow' was her comment on how desperately he needs professional attention to his feet.

Well, I unprofessionally longed him for about 5 min. in both directions last night after his supper- sound as a dollar, even stride, soft eye. Cleaned those feet, no stink, no sore spots, no heat or tenderness. This AM, he was trotting that fence again, happy eyed, hungry, and not the least bothered by his feet.

Oh, and my farrier is my vet's husband. I'm thinking he knows what he's doing, and that horse has NEVER EVER had any vet, any farrier, comment on the trouble his feet are in. Over the years I've used probably 6 or 7 farriers. Did you hear that? NO vet, no farrier, has ever expressed any concern ABOUT HIS FEET. EVER. I've owned him for coming up on 7 years.

Chew on that. I'm thinking Nora's an alias of someone here with no ill intent, no desire to hurt anyone, but someone who reads COTH enough to peg plenty of people, and guess well on the others.

_"Shoot me now! Shoot me now!"
Bugs Bunny_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Pardon me. My "wow" had nothing to do with that. It was simply my raction at being presented with a subject of which I have no comprehension -- tha anatomy of a hoof.

roxyrider

Dec. 18, 2003, 07:51 AM

Norahlee - I just sent you a PT.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:10 AM

Katarine -- What about this: "And his feet. Wow. You need more help than I am qualified to give." says that your horse "desperately needs professional attention to his feet" as you last posted? I have told you repeatedly that I am not qualified to comment on feet at all.

Whenever anyone has any question about ANYTHING that I have written, PLEASE ask for clarification, more information, etc. We are really limited here by using only words, not vocal inflections, facial expressions, body language, or, the best thing of all, back-and-forth communication.

fullmoon fever

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:17 AM

Perhaps those who don't have anything constructive to add to this thread could start their own about how A/Cs suck or something and we, that are interested, wouldn't have our posts lost in their morass of "dire warnings" and sarcastic comments?

norahlee - When you have time and aren't too tired, could you please answer my previous questions? (They got lost a couple pages back). http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

As well, I have a grulla mare who has been lame for quite some time. Vet took x-rays and said it was "x"; treatment was done - still lame. Farrier disagreed with vet and said it was "y" and adjusted shoes - still lame. Any ideas what it is? I'm not asking for veterinary advice, just what the mare thinks it could be and/or how it happened (she was on a 30-day trial at the time "it" happened and was fine when she left). Thank you so much for your patience.

Founder of the Olde Farte Clique; Member of the Dented Thigh Clique http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
If it ain't tack shopping, it's a waste of time and money.

verve

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:

Whenever anyone has any question about ANYTHING that I have written, PLEASE ask for clarification, more information, etc. We are really limited here by using only words, not vocal inflections, facial expressions, body language, or, the best thing of all, back-and-forth communication.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow norahlee...you can see all that? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Go solve some crimes with your gift frig, Or are only horse people gullible http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif .

katarine

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:26 AM

Fullmoon, all you have to do is skip my posts. Or, CTRL+F and find your name mentioned then you won't be troubled.

Don't bother trying to kick my skeptical ass out. It's fun reading if nothing else.

I had and have (edited to add NO)desire to ask any more than I have, Norahlee. Your first reply was alarmist, and your second, heavily edited post was full of changing information.

Did no one else bother to see she said it was just the boots I mentioned? THEN she took that out when I pointed out I'd mentioned them?

Man, the floor is really slick in here. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"Shoot me now! Shoot me now!"
Bugs Bunny

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:27 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Carolinela:
Noralhee, can you tell me if Sigfried (Sigi) is happy and can I do anything for him and if Corona is feeling better? In CA.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Siegfried is somewhat unsettled. I see him pacing in front of a gate. He wants his other person (equine person, that's a horse, but to horses another horse is a person, thet's why I use "human"). I ask him if he'd like treats and he completely ignores them. Only one thing on his mind. Corona is at the moment feeling neigher good nor bad, nothing in particular. That's in response to is she happy. More sleepy. But the leg is much better, although she still worries about it.

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Love is all there is

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:28 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by verve:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:

Whenever anyone has any question about ANYTHING that I have written, PLEASE ask for clarification, more information, etc. We are really limited here by using only words, not vocal inflections, facial expressions, body language, or, the best thing of all, back-and-forth communication.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow norahlee...you can see all that? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Go solve some crimes with your gift frig, Or are only horse people gullible http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I do solve crimes. Ask the local sheriff's department.

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Love is all there is

Lianne

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:29 AM

roxyrider

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:41 AM

Norahlee - feel better. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:59 AM

Thanks roxyrider. I am pretty worn out, it may well take a long time before I can do this reliably again. Based on the number of posts on this thread, I've probably done 500 readings. Or more. I think I've responded to all the e-mails and PTs, I'll check.
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Love is all there is

[This message was edited by norahlee on Dec. 18, 2003 at 12:09 PM.]

MdLib

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by katarine:

Chew on that. I'm thinking Nora's an alias of someone here with no ill intent, no desire to hurt anyone, but someone who reads COTH enough to peg plenty of people, and guess well on the others.

_"Shoot me now! Shoot me now!"
Bugs Bunny_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't have time to read this entire thread, but I can vouch that Norah is a real and good person. Of course, now you'll say I have to justify my own identity. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Painted Joe

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:09 AM

Believer and non-belivers contemplate on this - how many of you have in some way "sensed something before it happened" so to speak, but have just passed it off to a freak thing. Those of you who are Doubting Thomas' remember what he was told?

I do believe that some people do have a "connection" to other animals or people that goes beyond 'normal' communication.

Also norahlee had no way of knowing what Skips turnout situation is, either by seeing my pictures or my posts. I have never discussed turnout issues with any of my horses on this board.

Member of the Western Clique, Quarter Horse Clique and Stallion Clique

Owner of and slave to a small herd - Indio Joe (Paint Stallion), Im A Skip (AppY Gelding), You Cant Imagine (QH mare), and Miss Orphanannie Two (QH mare)

http://community.webshots.com/user/katomcree

Added pics of my other three horses I had - Pahrump Playpoy, Cree's Tom Boy and Shuggy's Graceful Lady

JDufort

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:11 AM

Norahlee - from way back on pg 25...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JDufort:
Hi Norahlee

back after a busy day... and cannot believe you're up to 25 pages! are you okay? this must be exhausting.

regarding my other two guys - they are the "working guys", and are away from me quite a bit. I want to be sure that both are aware how much we love them, and how much we enjoy watching them learn and excell. Are they having fun, too?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you're not too tired today...

Jeanne
eventing - what a great sport!

JDufort

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:15 AM

by the way...

I was a skeptic/agnostic regarding the world of psychics, until about 8 years ago when I met up with a guru in India. His "method" of verifying the connection was to describe in detail my home, my neighborhood, and my route to work. The accuracy was stunning. I have no idea HOW it works, but I do believe that some people can "access select knowledge in the universe" without physically encountering space and communication in the way we traditionalists know it.

hats off to you Norahlee.

Jeanne
eventing - what a great sport!

LMH

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> He wants his other person (equine person, that's a horse, but to horses another horse is a person, thet's why I use "human"). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

that was hysterical...so my question is what language do they speak in-I mean if a horse asks for a person, not a horse and not a human, but a person---is this in English?

How do they learn different languages?
How many languages does the average horse speak?
What do you do if you try to communicate in English and the horse doesn't speak English?

Is it frustrating for the imports when we speak in English? How long does it take for them to learn our language?

What language do they speak to each other in?

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LMH

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:27 AM

Also what could possibly be so horrible that you skipped JB's horses?

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:28 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JDufort:
Norahlee - from way back on pg 25...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JDufort:
Hi Norahlee

back after a busy day... and cannot believe you're up to 25 pages! are you okay? this must be exhausting.

regarding my other two guys - they are the "working guys", and are away from me quite a bit. I want to be sure that both are aware how much we love them, and how much we enjoy watching them learn and excell. Are they having fun, too?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you're not too tired today...

Jeanne
eventing - what a great sport!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>JDufort -- I can do this. Your "guys" are such EXCELLENT communicators (and you are, too, they are jumping all over themselves to add -- they (in unison!!!) say, together (they're having fun with this talking out loud exactlytogether thing horse hahahahahahahahahahhahahhhahaha!) that the PERSON is the ONLY VARIABLE in this communication. (they're correcting my punctuation here!!!!!!!!!!!) Horses ALWAY:S communicate to the very best of their ability. It's in their best interest, isn't it? How are we going to know when they need food, blankets, shelter, and ALL the horsey things that we WANT if their horses don't tell them? Huh????? They want ALL the horsey people on this board to know that their horses are crying every day that their people don't care for them properly because they don't know!!! They don't LISTEN to their speaking elders (horses KNOW tht they know muchmuchmuchmuchmuchmuchmuch.....etc. more tha humans do. Ptuiii (spitting) on people's knowledge of horsey kind wants. The End. By the way, JDufort, (again in unison) WE'RE FINE!!!!!

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by LMH:
Also what could possibly be so horrible that you skipped JB's horses?

_ _ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>JB asked for the past, present, and future, and more; I wasn't sure I was fresh enough to do justice to ALL of that. Plus, I didn't see how any horse could possibly be compromised by bumping it back a bit in the schedule, it seemed to be just be for the purpose of attacking me personally, not for any helpful purpose at all. And I just politely asked JB if it was okay to do a few others first, not SKIPPED or ignored. I never got an answer.

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LMH

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:55 AM

Would you please answer my language questions as well...bottom pg 27

verve

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:58 AM

OK ok I give...why is yo-yo not herself these days?

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:21 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by LMH:
Would you please answer my language questions as well...bottom pg 27

_ _ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I didn't realize you were serious. As I said earlier, horses don't speak English. I interpret their thoughts and emotions when they project them to me.

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alabama

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:21 AM

Ishi

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:36 AM

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Baileybff:
I've got a couple more for you...if you have the time and the energy.

Tony~ The pony I bought for my son over a year ago is now for sale (son lost interest). Is he happy with the idea of leaving or does he intend to stay HERE forever, lol.

Austin~ Can you find out what is hurting him? How long does he think it will take before "it" will get better?

and last but not least~

Newbie~ What does he think about his owner? Does he like all this time off, or would he prefer to be back in the ring?

Curious minds want to know.

I "talked" with Abby this afternoon. She def. seems unhappy and I'm trying to figure out how to deal with that, since her owner does not want her.

Nat http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

"Show with C.L.A.S.S."
http://classcircuit.0catch.com/Index.htm
"A horse is a horse of course of course"...This person obviously never met MY horse!
*Who Knew*
*Frosted Flakes*
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I was too tired when I did this before. Let's try again, to get you answers tht better relate to your questions. the pony is eager to teach another young rider. Fun, he says, the most fun in his life. End of story.

Austin is bafled by the question, what is hurting him. There are multitudes of things, from gnats to fence boards. I think you could get a better answer if you are more specific. The horses take the questin from you, I, as a mere interpreter, am listened to (in terms of asking other questions) by SOME horses, but not by Austin. He says I'm not authorized and he doesn't CARe what I think He only cares what YOU (loving, drooling face) think.

Newbie does not come in.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by alabama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by fullmoon fever:
Perhaps those who don't have anything constructive to add to this thread could start their own about how A/Cs suck or something and we, that are interested, wouldn't have our posts lost in their morass of "dire warnings" and sarcastic comments?
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So we all have to agree or we can't post on a topic?

I'm not saying that I don't believe that there are good ACs out there. Not saying that I don't believe Nora is a good one. But I DID ask a specific question and wasn't answered. Just got a vague "He's nervous." When I followed that up with a "really, ya think so?", I got a "he's nervous sometimes." Hell, I'm nervous sometimes - everything is nervous sometimes.

I was intrigued by the gate thing but I haven't gotten an answer about that (specific) question either.

I have used an communicator in the past - with very good results for my cat and interesting/good results for me. I don't consider myself to necessarily be a skeptic. I think it's human nature to question these kinds of things. If the things that I hear about animals I know, and I know both Katarine's horses and my own, don't match up right, I see nothing wrong with asking for clarification or just saying, "nope, that doesn't match up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I thought you were either kidding or sarcastic aboaut the gate. Sentences that brief can be ambiguous. And I thought that the original answer was quite specific. It said tht the horse was nervous worrying about something he thinks you want him to do, but doesn't know what the heck it is, and that the subject you asked about was unimportant. I have told many other posters that horses do not have opinions on that subject.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:52 AM

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:58 AM

People, I'm too burned out now. I think I'm up to the middle of page 26, and I intend to finish. And I intend to redo the last several I did yesterday, obviously at least some were off.

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verve

Dec. 18, 2003, 10:59 AM

norahlee- what about yo-yo? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:11 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
May I ask later, alabama? I'm pretty burned out now. I didn't ask specifically about the pasture buddies or the old place; I can do that. Sorry it's taking longer than you want to get the specific answers. I've found that horses do really well with the specific questions, but often get lost with the general ones. And being unfamiliar with your situation, I never know quite what to ask.

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Love is all there is<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Your horse is concerned about the time you put your leg on him and he didn't know why. He says it was while you were turning left, in the MIDDLE of the turn, and he thinks you wanted something from him by doing it, and he can't imagine what that would be. And that is the ONLY subject he will talk about. Really worried about it, and nervous that he's being bad.

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verve

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:14 AM

norahlee- what about yo-yo? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by propspony:
hey Norahlee, I was wondering if whenever you weren't tired if you could ask my girl Annie a question for me....

When I bought my girl Annie for some reason deep down I knew that while she was my "special" horse, she wasn't going to be my "riding" horse... but she would have a baby someday, and he would be. There was nothing physically wrong with her to warrant such a thought, it just came http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I've had her for over 6 years now and while she has always been willing... I just get the feeling that she doesn't want to be a riding horse. For me she is one of the happiest most willing horses in the world, but under saddle she just seems so unhappy. With a saddle, without... it doesn't matter. Now being ponied along on a trail ride is a whole 'nother story http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif That's fun!

I knew the second I saw the stallion that *he* was the one, in fact it was one of the most bizarre feelings I've ever had...

So I guess I'm just wondering what Annie thinks of this whole thing, she herself was an orphan would this affect anything? She also makes it very very clear that I am HER person, and she isn't very fond of sharing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif What would happen if another horse (even one she produced) got thrown into the equation?

thank you so much for doing this, you're a saint =)

propspony

"They may offer you fortune and fame, love and money and instant acclaim. But whatever they offer you... Don't feed the plants"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, Annie was projecting to you pretty hard, wouldn't you if new buyers were looking at y ou? You and she had a "conversation," in which you shared your wishes for the future and made some decisions about how to make them co me true. She says that her past (mother or not) has NOTHING to do with this, iti s the future End of story (that mans she feels she's said all she was asked and that it's not appropriate to speak further. She did what yu asked) The stallion is your mate. You said "another horse" what?

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:20 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by WHS:
Norahlee, when your feeling better,if you get a chance,could you ask my mare Tara what is bothering her? I get the feeling it is mental anguish not physical.I tried on several occasions to talk to her "face to face" but she turns away.Maybe she's disgusted with me because I don't hear what she's saying?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, she is not disgusted by you. She is aghast that you could *think* that of her. Isn't she a good horse for you (worried)? She TRIES!! She's occupied mentally by other people (horses, but to her they're people) who aren't there any more and she talks to them in the "sky" like I'm talking to her. You're interrupting her conversations, that's all.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Cisco's_Mom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Cisco's_Mom:
Hi norahlee,

This is SO interesting! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif I wanted to contact an AC with my previous horse. I loved him so much (still do) and tried SO HARD to make our working relationship a success.... but I just couldn't seem to get it right. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif We were very happy working together on the ground (lots of love and affection), but when I rode him we had many problems. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif I still believe he has a LOT of potential, and can be a very competitive horse someday. So, I've sold him to a new rider, hoping they will "click", and he will have his chance to shine.

Can you tell me what was wrong? Why did he behave so badly when I was trying so hard? Or was he NOT behaving badly, but reacting to something I was doing wrong? Was he in pain? Did he dislike something I was doing? Did I mis-intrepret his reactions? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Anything you can tell me is greatly appreciated! Thank you so much!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He says you two were never very happy, it's just that horses are much harder to read on the ground than when you have so much of your body in contact with him. He didn't match you. End of story
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Can you tell me if he's happy at his new home?

Also, is my new horse a better match for me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He's found another basic un-match. (sigh) They're good to him, of course; not NEARLY as good as you were to him. He REALLY misses that. You LOVED him, but it was as love to a baby, not as an equal. That's all. You, however, have a better match now. He's jealous.

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fullmoon fever

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:25 AM

norahlee - When you have time and are feeling up to it, my questions seem to have been lost in Alabama's posts on page 25. Thanks.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Monique:
Hi norahlee I'm really intrigued by your gift. Could you ask my horse Shadow a few questions?

Does he like his eggbar shoes? Do they hurt his feet?
Does the new saddle fit properly? The tackstore said it did, but I think it might be too big.

I don't expect you to answer right away, you've been so busy today, you must be worn out!!! When you feel up to it, I'd really appreciate you talking with Shadow.

Thanks!!
-Monique-<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He likes his eggbar shoes, almost entirely because you showed such love and caring in getting them for him. They put pressure in some new places, which is partly strange and partly (he's apologetic here, becasue you spent SUCH time on getting him NEW SHOES (joy at getting NEW SHOES) kind of uncomfortable. The saddle (and he is SO relieved you ask him this, DOES have fit problems. He is quite specific about this -- the points of the tr ee almost poke him, and the saddle sits flat on his back. Not the muscle pads, but more like the bony part. That is all

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WHS

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:42 AM

Thank you! Very good! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

alabama

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by fullmoon fever:
norahlee - When you have time and are feeling up to it, my questions seem to have been lost in Alabama's posts on page 25. Thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Excuse me? There were 12 other posters, not counting Norah or me on page 25. How did *I* redirect all the attention away from you to me??? Some of the other posters on that page posted multiple times (I posted twice as well), but somehow I somehow obscured your question? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

And Norah, if he's misunderstood something, what is it that I'm supposed to do to fix it? And what about the gate

Castlegate

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:55 AM

Hey this goes out to the NON Believers...I was once one of you....my story would take days but here are the highlights: I asked AC to just tell me what my pony Paisley wanted to tell me....NOTHING MORE.....she said..."she wants you to know that her skin feels much better now and that it was because of the pain in her stomach...probably from worms.....but that she was almost all better now...." AGAIN, all she was asked and all I told her was name...NOTHING else.....the pony arrived upon purchase with a skin condition that was awful....deep, open, itching sores all over her....for a year we had numerous vets and hospitals try everything they could to figure it out! Two days BEFORE I called the AC she was diagnosed as having an allergy to the onchocerca worm which casues excessive skin itching and digestive upset.....AND they had started her on a new course of medicine and she WAS feeling better! Hmmmmmm???????

Another thing that stood out was that I asked if my TB Gelding wanted me to know anything....AGAIN, that was ALL I said....other than his name....AC told me, "yes....he said he is much happier in his new home and that it is much more relaxed here.....but he does want to know why he can't go back out to shows again, he really likes shows and all of the other horses get to go?"......A few months before I called, I moved my TB home from my trainers due to a serious stifle injury, he was no longer being ridden and the youngsters had been leaving a lot to breed shows, inspections etc. She did also tell me that my TB kept interrupting her while she was trying to talk to the other horses....that is how I would imagine his personality to be......

The other thing I found VERY interesting was that I asked her who my TB's favorite horse friend was (at this point she didn't know how many horses I had - she read him first) and she laughed...she said he was showing her a picture of a small horse that was unusual looking...she said she was light in color with a BIG full mane and tail.....she told me it was his girlfriend......ok, so for those of you that know what Haflingers look like...does this freak you out!!!??? And yes, my Tb is head over heels in love with my Haffie!

So, as a previously HUGE skeptic.....please take my word for it....some of these AC's are not just stating the obvious!

Castlegate

Dec. 18, 2003, 12:01 PM

Oh, and Norahlee.....if you have a free minute (LOL!) and want to ask my Trak mare if she is having trouble breathing under saddle or if there is another issue I should know about, I would be MOST appreciative!!!!!!! Everyone is baffled at her discomfort!

Nitro's Mommy

Dec. 18, 2003, 12:14 PM

If you ever have time for me/energy, I'd be interested, if not, thats cool as well.

I bought my horse Nitro in August, after he was one of my camp horses I got attached to, he was a trail horse--could lead or follow. Now when I try to ride him he bucks. I used to think it was just cause he wasn't used to arenas, but then one of the grooms got on him (who has only about 6 month riding experience) and he only bucked once when he got on then he quit. The groom is about 20 lbs lighter than me--is it possible I am hurting his back or is it because he is picking up on my nervousness (I had a bad concussion from a jumping accident a year and a half ago) and clam up usually when I get on.

Thanks!

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Won2Keep

Dec. 18, 2003, 12:19 PM

Norahlee, I know you are trying to wind this down and after some of the replies, I cannot imagine how you have kept it up this long. I am exhausted after reading all 29 pages (and will probably be fired!).

I don't have any questions, but I would like you to pass something on to my horse, Cody. We have only been together 1 1/2 years and I feel like after 35 years of riding, I have found my soulmate. There is nothing in this world I would not do for him. I just want him to know how much he means to me and how he basically saved me from quitting riding. Let him know he will never go back to where he came from and he will always be by my side.
Thanks! I try to tell him every day, but I don't always feel like I get through.

Dec. 18, 2003, 12:28 PM

Patiently waiting http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If it helps, I can narrow my questions like Castlegate did - is there anything they (JB and Rio) want/need to tell me? I AM most interested in anything health-related, current living conditions, and, because I have told them about it, future living conditions.

verve

Dec. 18, 2003, 01:15 PM

alabama - stop it. There you go again and now norahlee is not going to be able to answer my question about Yo-yo and why she is not her self. You keep barging in http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Tin

Dec. 18, 2003, 01:28 PM

verve> Yo-yo is not herself because she want's to come live at my house http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

~ they tease you cause they like you ~

verve

Dec. 18, 2003, 01:43 PM

Tin- that's Miss Battlecat that wants to live with you but will you take the mighty Yobags too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

katarine

Dec. 18, 2003, 01:55 PM

Verve's just jealous that fullmoonfeversomethingorother didn't blame her!
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Bugs Bunny

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:22 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by fullmoon fever:
norahlee - Hi again. Sorry for all the questions; too many horses and not enough work at the office. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Can you ask Freddie why he is such a brat. Also, does Sparky want to be separated from Freddie?

Is Magyk ready, mentally, to start working? Does he feel more connected to myself or my husband?

Thank you again for your time and efforts.

To those of you who don't "believe", find another thread to read. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

_Founder of the Olde Farte Clique; Member of the Dented Thigh Clique_ http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
_If it ain't tack shopping, it's a waste of time and money._<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sorry, I missed you. Didn't mean to. I guess I need to get a bit more organized. I don't want to miss ANYONE. I posted that I would answer all questions, and I mean it. Freddie says th at he MEANS to be a brat, it gets him much attention. He doesn't do it to be mean or bad, that's not his nature. It just gets him petting that he would not ordinarily get (after any scoldings, which he says are fond, anyway). Good idea, from his point of view, although he's a little worried from communicating with me that it's generally not approved of. He's a good-at-heart guy, who gets attention by, unpleasant means. He could talk forever, maybe PT me. (he wouldn't let go, until I typed that. He says that I can tell him how to be trained (proud of that) S[arky Does want to be separated from Freddie, it's related to th e brat thing. Freddie gets so much more attention, he feels eclipsed. Magyk has a really short attention span. I couldn't keep his attention long enough to finish that thought, he jumped ahead to tell me that he feels much more connected to your husband (apology here, he's a good guy!) but that you are a nice lady My opinion of ready to work? No. I think you (or whoever) would be really frustrated

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fullmoon fever

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:32 PM

Thanks norahlee; nail on the head with them all. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I will PT you.

Founder of the Olde Farte Clique; Member of the Dented Thigh Clique http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:37 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by maggiemae:
I would like to just make a few comments about the reading that Norahlee did with my mare. I was floored by her response. Dalriada, I have had horses that I knew I didn't match with -- I found them a new home and moved on. I have had my mare for almost 3 years, and this is the first one that I have had that I felt that we matched. I was curious to see what the response would be.

When I went to the barn last night, my mare was rather aloff with me (normally she comes right over to the gate and greats me). I went into her stall and asked her if it was true, she didn't think we were a match. She walked over to me, blew into my ear and then put her head on my chest (and she stood like that for several minutes). I'm not really sure how to interpret this response -- except to think that she is trying to tell me that she is happy with me. Maybe this is just me trying to convince myself that I've found that one horse for my life.

My other questions, that were not answered, where because I have concerns about whether she is happy with her surroundings. When I got her, she looked like she had been neglected some (ribby, out of shape, long mane, feet needed to be done desperately). I have worked very hard to make her happy and comfortable. The last thing I want is to be doing something that is hurting her or not making her happy. This mare has given me her heart and soul (or so I thought) over the years.
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It's like the difference between a comfortable boyfriend (like what you two have) and knowing the split second you look a man in the eye that he's the one for you. When you asked the question, she expressed extreme fondness for you and sorrow that your great friendship is not the one match that is made in heaven. That is all. And the answer that she didn't think that you two were a match was intended to be an answer to whether she was happy in her surroundings. How can anyone be truly happy when they're away from their soul mate? You say you have doubts. Of course. When we don't know what is going on, we can't know what is matching reality or not. Be able to communicate with the horse. Learn to sit quietly in front of her and NOT THINK. This is the key. We Americans think all of the time. It's like a CB radio; you cannot transmit and receive at the same time. You are thinking; that is transmitting. You need to leave space for the horse's thoughts in your mind.

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Carolinela

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:39 PM

Hey verve, there is little harm in Noralhee. She is not asking for money, and if anything she pushes owners to see vets or shoers so she is not doing much damage. I am open to the concept of ACs because of the following experience: I saw a psychic when I was 18 (22 years ago) and was moving to Australia ( for what I thought was life) she told me I would move to the USA within 18 months, to San Francisco, work in advertising, and that there would be a war with the middle east, that I would be spared by the bombs and the bullets. I have the tape to prove it. Same lady years later told me that she thought my boyfriend was married. She was in Paris, I was in San Francisco, it was out of the blue and I kept insisting the blond woman she was seing was his mother---I found out it was true 2 years later. So, yes, I believe some have a gift. For fun, same lady told my brother he would marry his childhood sweetheart,he did, have 3 children, he did, and that she saw him carrying african artifacts in his suit case. He did! Working in Africa and bringing back gifts from his clients including several tribal bronze sculptures. How is that for detail?

LEP Enterprises, LLC

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:39 PM

Thank you Noralee! You told me this:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> LEPE (I'm your NEIGHBOR, by the way): I get plenty. Always have, as a matter of fact. Your gray says that her back is so stiff that she can't TELL about that saddle thing. Eagerly awaiting the masseuse.

Kirshe says that tendon is fine. It hurts, but all ridden horse's legs hurt (from the concussion (EAGER to explain stuff here. You've got a real TALKER!!!! I recommend taking some lessons yourself on animal communication (you can take it mail-order -- I did) and getting some way-out stuff!!!!!)) and that's why horse's legs always hurt. And backs always hurt because they're a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG unsupported stretch, and people sitting on t hem stretches them downward, which strains the muscles. That's hurt!!! You have kind of a vet here, in horse body!!!!! Ask me anything, please!!!
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My two mares are very different. London failed her vet check for me, yet she's hardly ever been off in her life. She is a total stoic. I'm going to schedule a massage for her as soon as her person can get back out. Tell her please to not bite her when she gets to the tight spots. I did some rubbing on her back monday night and it did seem tight but not ouchy in any particular spot. I hope that is a good sign.

Kirsche is a pampered princess and seems to overreact a bit to ouchies. (my trainer, her co-owner will not even ride her at shows if the ring is wet!!) Kirsche has talked to animal communicators for a long time, I bet she does have a lot to say. London, on the other hand, hates strangers so she's probably less chatty.

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I have a couple of other monsters - maybe they are chatty also.

Hannah - my 3 and a half year old chestnut mare. How is she liking her training?

Belle, my broodmare out in CAlifornia. She's a bay TB mare, retired from the track. She makes wonderful babies. How is this pregnancy going for her? Any signals from baby yet?

Gryphon Bay, my weanling out in Califoria. He probably has nothing to say, he's got a great life out in the baby pasture where he is the king!

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*Gryphon Bay & foal on the WAY!!!*

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ishi:
Norahlee, when you get a chance could you ask my horse a question for me? This is my first horse and all I want is for him to be happy! He just switched jobs and I want to know if he's enjoying his new job or if it hurts him (physically I guess) or if he'd like to go back to the way things were last year. Cool, thanks. BTW, I had an A/C talk to my dog, and it was really neat to hear what my dog had to say about me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

One more, this is silly, but does he wish he had less white on him? I am a grooming fanatic and I wonder if I annoy him brushing his legs all the time keeping them white?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You have a GOOD horse. He loves you and wants you to know that he doesn't think about what he does job-wise, that's your business. He doesn't feel qualified to decide. He's just a horse, after all. Some sadness here, if he weren't a horse (brightens) maybe he could go with you more? Like to the "grocery store"? (that's just a phrase that he picked up from you without having any idea what it is. You just think about going there a LOT when you're with him) He has "no comment" on your "does it hurt" question. Not meaning he said nothing, he said that (in different horsey "words", of course.)

About the legs, he doesn't like white meaning scratching at his legs all the time. Rather annoying. Maybe yuo could get a softer brush? Those leg bones are AWFULLY close to the skin, and there's not much padding between the skin and them.

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mbp

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:50 PM

Well this is fun.

Norahlee

I have a yearling with no name still. I have been given excellent suggestions, but they don't take. So I am game for some input - what name does this girl want?

I have a young mare, CG, who is ready to start in work. An earlier attempt was made with bad consequences. So - what was the problem? What can we do differently to make it more fun for her this time.

And I have a lot of horses. Do they not like that?

Having fun and the world won't start or end based on what you say.

Pocket Pony

Dec. 18, 2003, 02:57 PM

I've read this entire thread and find it very interesting. In the past I have used a few different animal communicators to talk with Mickey.

I'm interested to know about Miles and if he has anything to say. What does he think of his new place? Is he sore anywhere? Does he like his job? Why does he eat so fast? What does he want me to know?

Norahlee, you are very kind to answer everyone's questions. I'd be interested to hear what you hear from Miles.

"Both rider and horse must enjoy the work. This is the essence of success" - Reiner Klimke

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:06 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by elsa:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by elsa:
I don't know how you keep this up, Norahlee, but as long as you are willing.....

There is a mare in my care, but she is not mine. I would like to make her more comfortable?

Could you please ask her this question: What are you looking for?

~posting my way from working hunter to grand prix~<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What a nice mare. She is so mature, calm, comfortable AND comforting. I love her. She would like to be with you for life. That's what she's been BEGGING you for.

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Wrong horse, norahlee. Please try again. BTW is the mature mare you connected to above in foal?

~posting my way from working hunter to grand prix~<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You're right, off the direct line from you to the mare you asked me about is this horse. Sorry. I was awfully tired, and part of me wanted to stop, but the part that won out said to keep going. She is in foal. I see another one, young, chestnut, white on her face. She has feet discomfort, I think they need to be trimmed. There are other things, too. She's not digesting well. Look at your fiber ratio. She's a good horse. There are other things, too. Something about the skin. Scabies? And her oil will help immensely with impactions. That means adding it to her food. And more, feet and legs. Some absorbine rubdown will help. She's helpless, she needs you. I'm having real trouble connecting here, perhaps because it's not your horse. She's working hard to connect with me, but it's not a direct connection.

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dressagegirl

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:08 PM

norahlee
i have a t.b horse that i have owned for 6years and will forever. can you tell me if he is happy at his present home? and if anything is botheing him? thanks

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by verve:
OK ok I give...why is yo-yo not herself these days?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>How can I answer this????

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:14 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by fullmoon fever:
Perhaps those who don't have anything constructive to add to this thread could start their own about how A/Cs suck or something and we, that are interested, wouldn't have our posts lost in their morass of "dire warnings" and sarcastic comments?

norahlee - When you have time and aren't too tired, could you please answer my previous questions? (They got lost a couple pages back). http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

As well, I have a grulla mare who has been lame for quite some time. Vet took x-rays and said it was "x"; treatment was done - still lame. Farrier disagreed with vet and said it was "y" and adjusted shoes - still lame. Any ideas what it is? I'm not asking for veterinary advice, just what the mare thinks it could be and/or how it happened (she was on a 30-day trial at the time "it" happened and was fine when she left). Thank you so much for your patience.

_Founder of the Olde Farte Clique; Member of the Dented Thigh Clique_ http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
_If it ain't tack shopping, it's a waste of time and money._<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There's something in the interior of the foot, about halfway up, on the left-ish side (meaning close to center, on the left) that has an abnormally large size. Names of the inside of the foot are not in my vocabulary. I think it's fairly soft tissue, which may be why the X-rays did not apparently diagnose it. I see pictures of things and describe them to the best of my ability; this was not a case of having to communicate with any animal When I talk about an animal, I am connecting to it through you. You have a knowledge of anatomy, you literally know your horse inside and out (haven't your little "intuitions" about what is wrong with a horse borne that out?) and I draw upon that. Your psychicness, not the horse's communication.

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Cisco's_Mom

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:16 PM

Thanks Norahlee! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Very interesting...

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Poncha:
I don't see my horse, Jake, as being "terribly uphappy" as you replied several pages back. My, you've been awfully busy on here! I mentioned he was the lowest in the pecking order, but all this seems to amount to is that he comes through the gate last! He's not coming in with bites or anything. He and the TW in his pasture are so playful together. I often see them grooming each other and eating from the same hay pile. When I asked how he felt about the situation, I only wondered if he misses his old pasture mate, who is on our same farm, but in a different pasture now. Oh, and when he had goats in his pasture, he and his buddy were definately not nice to them! So, no more goats for them!

I really love Jake and am feeling we are reaching new ground in our partnership. Could you ask him how he likes the bareback work we have been doing lately? I'm enjoying the heck out of it, and feel like I'm learning to stay with him better. What does he think?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He likes the bareback work becasue you two connect more. SAddles are awafully limiting, they keep him from feeling you. But your balance is upsetting to him in that you put all your weight on one of his legs in a way that, he doesn't think, is completely healthy for his joints.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by verve:
norahlee- what about yo-yo? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If there was a previous post that I missed, I apologize. There is not enough to go on here. I ask horses questions.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by verve:
OK ok I give...why is yo-yo not herself these days?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Okay, she is missing somebody. HOrse, I believe.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by alabama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by fullmoon fever:
norahlee - When you have time and are feeling up to it, my questions seem to have been lost in Alabama's posts on page 25. Thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Excuse me? There were 12 other posters, not counting Norah or me on page 25. How did *I* redirect all the attention away from you to me??? Some of the other posters on that page posted multiple times (I posted twice as well), but somehow I somehow obscured your question? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

And Norah, if he's misunderstood something, what is it that I'm supposed to do to fix it? And what about the gate<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Good question. I was hoping for your help in directing me to what questions to ask to figure this out. You've helped somewhat in telling me some of what your riding was like, but I just kept asking him more specific questions on when it happened and what "it" was in the first place. I've gotten as far as "it" was putting your left leg on him when you were making a fairly wide turn to the left, and that he is SURE you meant for him to do something different by putting the leg on him (and in his world, "punishment" IS putting a leg on, because it means he was bad to have done what he did). My guess, from what I've gotten from him, is that you were leaning left for some reason, and your leg accidentally was against him in an unusual (to him) way. He says YES YES!!! I NEVER felt a leg like that before! WHAT IN HE11 DID IT MEAN? Gate -- 4

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Sue from Auckland

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:34 PM

norahlee - if you are willing and able, could you ask my horse Millie what I can do to make her happy and comfortable - is anything hurting or bothering her at present? Many thanks

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Castlegate:
Oh, and Norahlee.....if you have a free minute (LOL!) and want to ask my Trak mare if she is having trouble breathing under saddle or if there is another issue I should know about, I would be MOST appreciative!!!!!!! Everyone is baffled at her discomfort!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, because the saddle (she would not let me put "her" for saddle) pokes her in the accupressure breathing places. There are spots near the withers that, in the energy world (think accupuncture and accupressure) are very strongly associated with breathing. Many saddles, when placed too far forward, put pressure on these places (not a good thing). And, cg, this, apparently because of a combination of saddle and placement, compromise her breathing.

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dbtoo

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:40 PM

Can I sneak in here while its quiet. Can you ask my horse Daphne what she thinks about having me as her owner and what she thinks about the other woman that rides her?

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:45 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nitro's Mommy:
If you ever have time for me/energy, I'd be interested, if not, thats cool as well.

I bought my horse Nitro in August, after he was one of my camp horses I got attached to, he was a trail horse--could lead or follow. Now when I try to ride him he bucks. I used to think it was just cause he wasn't used to arenas, but then one of the grooms got on him (who has only about 6 month riding experience) and he only bucked once when he got on then he quit. The groom is about 20 lbs lighter than me--is it possible I am hurting his back or is it because he is picking up on my nervousness (I had a bad concussion from a jumping accident a year and a half ago) and clam up usually when I get on.

Thanks!

"We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces, singing Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses." --some country song http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No srious problems with his back or with weight, it's just that he's expressing his displeasure because he's not where he's meant to be. It's not a match made in heaven, you and him, and he wants his heaven-sent mate. Not that you're not good to him, you are. He just misses his real mama.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by dressagegirl:
norahlee
i have a t.b horse that i have owned for 6years and will forever. can you tell me if he is happy at his present home? and if anything is botheing him? thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Do you really think that this is the horse you are meant to be with forever? Look into his eyes and listen to him about it.

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dressagegirl

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:54 PM

norahlee... wow! he is now 19 and i could never think of selling him. he loves to go out and be ridden,is he not happy with me?

nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sue from Auckland:
norahlee - if you are willing and able, could you ask my horse Millie what I can do to make her happy and comfortable - is anything hurting or bothering her at present? Many thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There's a lot going on with Millie. Her digestion is not too good, try more corn oil and fiber. Let her know what she's doing that's good, that's why you're getting strange responses. She doesn't know what she TRIES is good and what is bad.

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 03:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Won2Keep:
Norahlee, I know you are trying to wind this down and after some of the replies, I cannot imagine how you have kept it up this long. I am exhausted after reading all 29 pages (and will probably be fired!).

I don't have any questions, but I would like you to pass something on to my horse, Cody. We have only been together 1 1/2 years and I feel like after 35 years of riding, I have found my soulmate. There is nothing in this world I would not do for him. I just want him to know how much he means to me and how he basically saved me from quitting riding. Let him know he will never go back to where he came from and he will always be by my side.
Thanks! I try to tell him every day, but I don't always feel like I get through.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He says that your unspoken request is that we communicate. He says that Norah is right, you only have to listen. He talks plenty for both of us!!

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nightsong

Dec. 18, 2003, 04:17 PM

I'm going off-line for a while, people. I'm working at my technique, but I still get somewhat tired, although your animals are sending me energy. They HATE it when I go away (from this board). I'l be back.
and if any of you havve more private questions, concerns, problems, or all you want is to talk with me privately, my e-mail is norahleeb @ excite. I will NEVER charge because it's against my personal philosophy. However, I AM unemployed, and several of you have VERY KINDLY have asked for a PayPal address for donations. It's norahleeb @ excite.com. I DO want to continue. It may look like I was trying to wrap this up, it was more explaining that there will be a delay. I can't turn down an animal.

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Tin

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by verve:
Tin- that's Miss Battlecat that wants to live with you but will you take the mighty Yobags too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure! Why not? Rock and Verve should come too! Heck, ship them all over! And uproot the indoor while your at it http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm going to have to go visit soon, I want to see Verve!

~ they tease you cause they like you ~

alabama

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
Good question. I was hoping for your help in directing me to what questions to ask to figure this out. You've helped somewhat in telling me some of what your riding was like, but I just kept asking him more specific questions on when it happened and what "it" was in the first place. I've gotten as far as "it" was putting your left leg on him when you were making a fairly wide turn to the left, and that he is SURE you meant for him to do something different by putting the leg on him (and in his world, "punishment" IS putting a leg on, because it means he was bad to have done what he did). My guess, from what I've gotten from him, is that you were leaning left for some reason, and your leg accidentally was against him in an unusual (to him) way. He says YES YES!!! I NEVER felt a leg like that before! WHAT IN HE11 DID IT MEAN? Gate -- 4<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry but that's just not ringing any bells. I never put much leg at all on him because he thinks it's a "GO" signal. A tiny (and I mean tiny) bit of heel or calf is all I ever need.

I don't know what "Gate -- 4" means.

Castlegate

Dec. 18, 2003, 08:31 PM

Thanks Norahlee: Interesting about the saddle...I guess I should have mentioned that she has had tie back surgery for roaring....is she having issues with THAT as well?

Also, will you ask my youngster if she is ready to start her work career?

And could you possibly find time to ask my recently one eyed pony if she is doing ok with her new eyesight?

THis is great that you are doing this for us!

GreyGhost

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:13 PM

Hi Norah, i've been following this topic with great interest since recently becoming a member and decided to finally ask a few questions.

First of all, my older gelding, why is he afraid sometimes? why does he seem to have 'crazy' spells? what does he think of me after all this time?

Second , my new gelding, is he happy?

Thank you so much.

lilblackhorse

Dec. 18, 2003, 09:45 PM

Jeez louise, I left this thread on like page 4 and never noticed it had gotten so long. I had wanted to ask you a question or two about my horse Norahlee, but didn't want to burden you-now that I see everyone else has http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif and that you are happy to do it, then I will jump on the bandwagon. (I had wanted to pt you so I could pay you for this)

I was wondering if you could ask Will about his leg. How does he feel it's healed, and is he happy to be back at work? Is anything else hurting him now? Please let him know how VERY proud of him I am for his manners and attitude during this stall rest period.

I know he misses his friends and his routine. Is there anything else I should know about? What's the deal with his waterer? I love this horse to pieces, and have had another AC speak with him with mixed results. I have also tried to open the communication lines with him, and feel like I have had "sparks" or recognition.

I knew he was going to spend the rest of his life with me the day I went to see him for the first time. He tucked his nose in my chest and said very clearly "please take me away from this man". I have never forgotten.

Is there anything else I can do to make him happy? I know he wants to be turned out, I just can risk him hurting himself again. I will make it a point to tell him that it will be an option soon-almost a reward for being so good. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thank you so much, aimee

Elippses Users Clique........"I hate stall rest" and Grammar Nazi Cliques

"What the fuh?" Robby Johnson

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Miller

Dec. 18, 2003, 11:09 PM

Alabama, I'm not sure what the problem is for you. But could you please tone it down.

I've enjoyed reading this thread and all of the feed back that it has received, as I'm sure others have.

If this thread is bothersome to you and your horse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif then I'd suggest riding over to Off Course. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

alabama

Dec. 19, 2003, 05:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lostin alabama:
Alabama, I'm not sure what the problem is for you. But could you please tone it down.

I've enjoyed reading this thread and all of the feed back that it has received, as I'm sure others have.

If this thread is bothersome to you and your horse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif then I'd suggest riding over to Off Course. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm asking for clarification on some stuff Norah has told me. What exactly should I tone down? I haven't been rude and haven't posted anymore than some of the other posters. Why do you say this thread is bothersome to me? Why do you imply I haven't enjoyed reading it? I clearly stated that I don't consider myself a skeptic - but apparently, I'm not allowed to ask followup questions??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif (And to be clear, this last sentence is not directed at Norah who *has* been answering my followup questions.

verve

Dec. 19, 2003, 06:58 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by alabama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lostin alabama:
Alabama, I'm not sure what the problem is for you. But could you please tone it down.

I've enjoyed reading this thread and all of the feed back that it has received, as I'm sure others have.

If this thread is bothersome to you and your horse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif then I'd suggest riding over to Off Course. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm asking for clarification on some stuff Norah has told me. What exactly should I tone down? I haven't been rude and haven't posted anymore than some of the other posters. Why do you say this thread is bothersome to me? Why do you imply I haven't enjoyed reading it? I clearly stated that I don't consider myself a skeptic - but apparently, I'm not allowed to ask followup questions??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif (And to be clear, this last sentence is not directed at Norah who *has* been answering my followup questions.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dont worry alabama- lostin alabama is just grumpy at you because you took her first choice as a login name http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

verve

Dec. 19, 2003, 07:07 AM

norahlee-but Yo-yo only gets upset if she is away from Battlecat. They live together, sharing food, water, and thoughts (like should we run away, spook, or trounce on the cat) Yo does not mingle with any other horses- who would she miss? Could she be missing something else?

alabama

Dec. 19, 2003, 07:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Dont worry alabama- lostin alabama is just grumpy at you because you took her first choice as a login name http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Pocket Pony

Dec. 19, 2003, 11:15 AM

Guess I didn't get my question in in time...

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"Both rider and horse must enjoy the work. This is the essence of success" - Reiner Klimke

nightsong

Dec. 19, 2003, 11:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by verve:
norahlee-but Yo-yo only gets upset if she is away from Battlecat. They live together, sharing food, water, and thoughts (like should we run away, spook, or trounce on the cat) Yo does not mingle with any other horses- who would she miss? Could she be missing something else?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's what I said. She's upset at being (for whatever length of time) separated from her friend. She thinks that you should NEVER do that to her.

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Kit

Dec. 19, 2003, 12:31 PM

Norah, it's interesting to note that we are often confused by what our horses are saying to you. I suppose they are like people in that they are only saying what's on their minds and like people, can make a big issue out of something quite minor? What's an issue to some is of no bother to another? They all think and react differently, often live in quite different environments i.e. mine are in a paddock in the country (as they mostly are in this country) and yet overseas many live indoors most of their lives but they are all happy because that's the life they know. However their early education must and does have quite an impact on them, so does this come across to you alot? i.e. horses that have been mistreated or unfairly dealt to never forget and it has a huge influence over their future life. How does this come through to you? The reason I ask is that many horses have difficulties because of these old fears which is perfectly understandable but unfortunately it shapes their lives. e.g. a mare I used to own used to panic when out riding in a group and would stop still. When pushed forward, she would back up - into and over anything! Very scary for me but probably for her too. One day she went straight up in the air and then fell on top of me. So something affected her badly. do they tell you where these sorts of problems come from?

[This message was edited by Kit on Dec. 19, 2003 at 03:45 PM.]

Dec. 19, 2003, 02:10 PM

Still patiently waiting http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

nightsong

Dec. 19, 2003, 02:15 PM

Excellent, Kit. Most of the baffled replies from people about what their horses say are either misinterpreting what the words are (we are SO limited here by not having a back-and-forth) or not knowing what the horse's perspective was when they said that. We really do expect our horses to think just like us. They really don't. It's partly a response to their life. We are aware of bunches of different places that horses could live. They are aware of only one. They could not possibly compare it with anything else. It's to them like the sky is to us. It's there, we don't think it could be any different. And they're aware of the past, don't think of it like we do. A horse has terrors in his past (you know how scared they can get) and REALLY doesn't want to relive it. And also, they don't see the point. If it's not now, what's the point? It's over and done with. They want to talk to you, but not through me. They want you to know that this is a one-time thing, they can see how tired I am when I interact with them. They KNOW they are not going to be able to come back and do it again. "what's an issue to some is of no bother to another", as you said, Kit, is SO right. We don't remember that our horses have such LIMITED lives. They don't do anything but sit in their paddock, eat grain, and get ridden sometimes. What goes on in their lives is of HUGE importance because that's all there is. They don't have the luxury of comparing their paddock, type of riding, or ANYTHING else with something else because they don't KNOW anything else. Stop and look at what your horse's experience has been. Then you'll know how to interpret his answer. We don't look at things from their perspective, which is SO limited. Think of the cat who concluded that people couldn ot control their hands, because she had no knowledge that would tell her otherwise. She knew that people hurt her, she knew that they didn't mean to (this is a psychic connection that all animals have, but what they don't have is the EXPERIENCE) so she concluded that people could not control their hands. That's pretty bright. They do remember what happens to them. If they were frightened on a trail (and remember how EASILY frightened these creatures are), they will always suspect that it could happen again and, quite reasonably, expect it and go to GREAT lengths to avoid it. So many things that happen to them are of such magnitude (to them) that theynever want to take the chance of it ever happening again. That is why they refuse to do certain things, go certain places, etc. And that thing that scared them may well (because of our very different perspective) be something that we, if we even notice it at all, it is so insignificant to us, see as stupid. But it's not to the horse. They are timid by nature, they survive in the wild by being alert for dangers and then either staying away from them or getting away from them. They talk to you (when they communicate with their owners) about dangers, you say, that's silly, and go on. A horse has to stay away from any possible danger because, unlike humans, cats, dogs, etc. they can't fight. They have to avoid ANYTHING that is the merest hint of danger. Kit, you ask how old fears and things come across to me. I often have to ask. To them, that is just the way things are. They are eager to tell me of problems, though. They will tell me where these sorts of problems come from if I understand and can ask the correct question. That's the key. Just asking what's wrong will get you the horse responding ????? I've gotten that with frankly, most of your horse's responses. I have to take a while to have a conversation about their entire life, so I can elicit SOMETHING that might be of concern to an owner/rider/caretaker.

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nightsong

Dec. 19, 2003, 02:22 PM

You folks may have noticed that I haven't been doing many actual readings for a while, just answering mostly-non-reading questions and clarifying/expanding on previous readings, and doing some particularly talkative horses who have jumped into my mind anyway. I intend to get everybody, including you, JB. Thank you for waiting. I'll be doing it soon.

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LEP Enterprises, LLC

Dec. 19, 2003, 02:30 PM

HUG Noralee

I think its awesome how much people want to talk to their horses. I was telling my trainer today what Kirsche said and he was asking lots of questions. Then he says "so Lauren...how much do you REALLY believe in this?!?!"

Was funny. Because he himself had so many questions!

But I spoke to one AC who knew something very specific about Kirsche - and I had not mentioned *anything* about it to her previously. So I was like "wow - that is very interesting" So I think that some people have a talent.

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PeriwinkleBlue

Dec. 19, 2003, 02:49 PM

I asked a couple of questions back on page 26, I believe...they haven't been answered yet. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
I'll go back and see if I can dig them up again.

PeriwinkleBlue

Dec. 19, 2003, 02:51 PM

Found them - on page 20.

I used to own a lovely bright chestnut Arabian mare with lots of chrome and a blaze. Her name was China and she was an absolute doll.
I sold her to some wonderful people in Texas, but I've moved to Virginia since and haven't heard from them in about a year.
Can you ask her if she's happy? Also if she's enjoying the work they give her to do? Does she miss me or think about me or even remember me at all?

Also, I have a cat named Pixel. Is she happy with us or would she rather live with our friend (she's been boarded with him while we were out of town). How does she feel about my daughter?

Thank you!

Kit

Dec. 19, 2003, 03:06 PM

Yes, you see I was at first quite upset to hear that my horse was "crying" for missing my attention, but that's a human interpretation and I already KNOW that he wants more of my time because of his body language. I always describe him as my snag - sensitive, new age guy. So really, this was nothing new which to me is great. But I want his ear, nose throat problem to improve before I ride him too much again. So, thanks to you, I have put him out with the girls and he looks pretty happy to me now! - although he is bossing them around - especially my lovely old mare. He's protecting the young mare he thinks! Thanks Norah I've really enjoyed trying to understand all this. I guess we all just have to simplify things and try to think as a horse would - not as complicated as a human thinks. As for my young mare - goodness only knows about her thoughts!! She's fairly isolated but who knows what horses she's passed thoughts with. I didn't think horses knew about meat works as they don't go there and then come back - and surely they don't know where they're going - and they don't know what's going to happen till it does i.e. the other horses don't see anything. I think - I hope! And plus I don't know of any horses that have gone on "the" truck around her. Never had anything to do with it. We're pretty protective of our horses. Over here if they are rescued, they come off the truck and never get to the factory - but I've only heard that. Don't think they do very well around here!! We'd rather get the vet if a horse has a serious injury! My old mare never knew she was going to be "retired" because I just said I would take her for a paddock mate. But I have told my mare's breeder and it has certainly got her thinking too. And isn't that what this is all about? Trouble is it makes us wanting to ask our horses more questions!! Thanks Norah - I've found this all very interesting. Merry Christmas!!

[This message was edited by Kit on Dec. 19, 2003 at 06:17 PM.]

nightsong

Dec. 19, 2003, 03:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JB:
Ok, norahlee, I'll play - what can you tell me about JB and Rio? Do you need pictures? I would like to know about past, current, and future living situations, and current health status. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What you want to know is easy for me to tell you. The length of it, however, has kept me from doing it before now. You really want every tiny detail of everything that has happened to each horse in the past lives? I cannot do that, in fairness to other people. But, you are next. So I ask you to put modifiers in your original sentences.

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nightsong

Dec. 19, 2003, 04:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PeriwinkleBlue:
Found them - on page 20.

I used to own a lovely bright chestnut Arabian mare with lots of chrome and a blaze. Her name was China and she was an absolute doll.
I sold her to some wonderful people in Texas, but I've moved to Virginia since and haven't heard from them in about a year.
Can you ask her if she's happy? Also if she's enjoying the work they give her to do? Does she miss me or think about me or even remember me at all?

Also, I have a cat named Pixel. Is she happy with us or would she rather live with our friend (she's been boarded with him while we were out of town). How does she feel about my daughter?

Thank you!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>China has a lot to tell you. You know, I've been having trouble with readings for quite a while now, there was some sort of interference. It was China saying It's time. You havae to do me first. And I apologize to all the people after China (on page 20, P says), the original postings, I mean, not any "answers" or follow-up, because you've had interference, and, except those of you whose horses had strong enough presentations to me to overcome this, I possibly connected with another animal from what you had intended. You, however, who were done up to China's posting. You got accurate readings.

On to China. I'm Way too tired to get into this. But you are getting the next reading (satisfied mare). I only did what was right, she says. And she is absolutely correct. Mares have a STRONG sense of justice.

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[This message was edited by norahlee on Dec. 19, 2003 at 08:06 PM.]

[This message was edited by norahlee on Dec. 19, 2003 at 08:08 PM.]

lovemyhorse

Dec. 19, 2003, 04:38 PM

norahlee, what or who does my horse miss? does he have anything to say?

PeriwinkleBlue

Dec. 19, 2003, 05:24 PM

VERY interested in hearing what China has to say. Thanks so much!

Equine Geek

Dec. 19, 2003, 07:07 PM

Double hugs Norahlee- You're doing everyone here a great service. Even if only five people try to "be still and listen" to their horses, its a great thing. Earl and I will be patient...
EG

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Meegan

Dec. 19, 2003, 07:29 PM

Hi
Just stumbled across this post and have been reading through and found it interesting. I was wondering if you could pick up anything from my horse, Amigo. I feel we are pretty connected and he is one of my "soul-mate" animals. I'd like to know if he needs anything more from me and if he is content.

I'd like to know how he feels (likes or dislikes) about Tory and Merriweather.

Thank you!
Megan

nappingonthejob

Dec. 19, 2003, 07:53 PM

joining this party kinda late...

norahlee, if you have a chance, could you ask my horse Leah about why she gets panicky, and what I can do to help her?

if you have time/energy, of course. it's really great that you're taking so much time to do this...thanks!

signatures are lame.

Meegan

Dec. 19, 2003, 07:56 PM

Noralee, I also forgot, I wanted to ask if you had ever worked with animals on helping them heal with herbals or homeopathics, or other alternative methods of healing? If so, how do they come across with the answers for what they need? I'm just curious to know how this process works for you if you do ask them.

Thanks!

ALF

Dec. 20, 2003, 07:32 AM

Can you ask my horse why he's always lame after I jump him 10 feet?

nightsong

Dec. 20, 2003, 01:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PeriwinkleBlue:
Found them - on page 20.

I used to own a lovely bright chestnut Arabian mare with lots of chrome and a blaze. Her name was China and she was an absolute doll.
I sold her to some wonderful people in Texas, but I've moved to Virginia since and haven't heard from them in about a year.
Can you ask her if she's happy? Also if she's enjoying the work they give her to do? Does she miss me or think about me or even remember me at all?

Also, I have a cat named Pixel. Is she happy with us or would she rather live with our friend (she's been boarded with him while we were out of town). How does she feel about my daughter?

Thank you!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>China has a lot to tell you. You know, I've been having trouble with readings for quite a while now, there was some sort of interference. It was China saying It's time. You havae to do me first. And I apologize to all the people after China (on page 20, P says), the original postings, I mean, not any "answers" or follow-up, because you've had interference, and, except those of you whose horses had strong enough presentations to me to overcome this, I possibly connected with another animal from what you had intended. You, however, who were done up to China's posting. You got accurate readings.

On to China. I'm Way too tired to get into this. But you are getting the next reading (satisfied mare). I only did what was right, she says. And she is absolutely correct. Mares have a STRONG sense of justice.

Edited to add something from Pixel, whom I listened to this time, Pixel -- She has something to say, you have brought her to the person she loves above all else, the person she's been "boarding" with. If she could stay, there, perhaps? And your daughter is fine (baffled you should ask, she is just "one of the people")

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[This message was edited by norahlee on Dec. 19, 2003 at 08:06 PM.]

[This message was edited by norahlee on Dec. 19, 2003 at 08:08 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>China is worried about something. It's that you havaen't been contacting her and she MISSES YOU. . She loves you, although, she has to say, THANK YOU FOR SELLING ME TO THE *RIGHT PEOPLE*!!!!!!! She is so happy now. But you haven't contacted her, and you were her baby momma. She misses you, with you in her life, too, her life will be complete!!! (and this "contacting" her is just thinking about her. As long as the thoughts are about her, she will receive them.

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[This message was edited by norahlee on Dec. 21, 2003 at 03:35 PM.]

nightsong

Dec. 20, 2003, 01:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Meegan:
Noralee, I also forgot, I wanted to ask if you had ever worked with animals on helping them heal with herbals or homeopathics, or other alternative methods of healing? If so, how do they come across with the answers for what they need? I'm just curious to know how this process works for you if you do ask them.

Thanks!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I don't believe in homeopathics, and have ONLY used herbal in the form of flower essences, specifically only Rescue Remedy (not the imitation, but the real Bach). It works AMAZINGLY. It was the only way I could work with a WILD foal; I got close enough to smear some on his nose, and he calmed down enough to get all I wanted done.

I do an awful lot of vet-related stuff. Energy healings (a lot of people call it "spiritual" healings; same thing, you are manipulating the energy field, same thing that is used in accupuncture and accupressure), long-range healings and diagnoses like internal tumors and what's wrong, I diagnosed the nerve damage of a Chihuahua that had gotten a little too much anesthesia (it was really creepy touching him, like a dead body), etc. etc. I'm pretty darn useful. You question as to how? I work with energy. It shows me where the blocks are, I just tune in on that.

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Love is all there is

[This message was edited by norahlee on Dec. 21, 2003 at 04:18 PM.]

nightsong

Dec. 20, 2003, 01:47 PM

Well, people, I have to stop for now, for two reasons: I'm TIRED, and I have to use public computers, being WAY too poor to buy my own, and the computers I've been using are at a local university, which has shut down for the holiday break. I'm at the public library, which has VERY NICE computers (donated by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation), but there are *quite short* time limits (half of them are only 15 minutes). I can get blocks of computer time on Monday.

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Kit

Dec. 20, 2003, 03:41 PM

Thanks Norahlee, we appreciate your time. Very interesting. And even if some us take more time to be aware of our horses' body language and try to understand, the world will be a better place. there are some pretty sad horses out there.

nightsong

Dec. 21, 2003, 01:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Unspecified:
Can you ask my horse why he's always lame after I jump him 10 feet?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Horse says, puzzled, but you haven't EVER jumped him ten feet.

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SoNotaDQ

Dec. 21, 2003, 02:08 PM

you know, everyone who has had a reading, ought to anty up $25 or so For Norahlee. Maybe Nora has a paypal account that money could be transferred to.

$25 wouldn't hurt any of our pocketbooks, but probably would help hers. It is Christmas, she has given, let her receive. She has given us alot, even if it is only being able to read what she sees.

Norahleeb@excite.com is the address to send donations to.

[This message was edited by SoNotaDQ on Dec. 21, 2003 at 05:33 PM.]

LMH

Dec. 21, 2003, 05:47 PM

Is this really appropriate to offer these services and now use this forum to ask for money? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

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Let's put the FUN back in dysFUNctional!

Lookout

Dec. 21, 2003, 06:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Unspecified:
Can you ask my horse why he's always lame after I jump him 10 feet?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Horse says, puzzled, but you haven't EVER jumped him ten feet.

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norahlee thanks for addressing that one, I was wondering what you would do about that troll. When you are again available I would like to ask you a question about my horse, and I will be happy to contribute. Do you have to know his name (if so I will PT) or just his description?

TotalBliss

Dec. 21, 2003, 07:32 PM

hi norahlee quick questions:
lately flashy hasn't been wanting treats that much (apples,carrots etc.) and usually he loves them. he is perfect health wise. is he just sad?

nightsong

Dec. 22, 2003, 05:46 AM

Good reading, TotalBliss. He is sad, almost depressed. I am too tired to get, really, anything but the surface condition, but just LOOKING at your post that jumped out at me. I don't get that he's missing any horse, but maybe there's someting in his environment that he's missing. Any big changes, stall surface, for instance?

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nightsong

Dec. 22, 2003, 05:50 AM

I have to take a break from this, folks, but will be back. In the meantime, will be happy to answer questions that I don't have to do a reading for, if they're easy, that is, and to follow up on any readings done to date. There may well be another like the previous one where an answer (possibly incomplete) jumps out at me, and I'll share it. Hint: this is much more likely to happen with a simple question like TotalBliss's than a complete lifestyle description. That doesn't mean I'm skipping anyone. I'll get to you. And I don't need anything (picture, name, description) besides your intent to have that animal done.

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CHJoker

Dec. 22, 2003, 06:00 AM

"you know, everyone who has had a reading, ought to anty up $25 or so For Norahlee. Maybe Nora has a paypal account that money could be transferred to.

$25 wouldn't hurt any of our pocketbooks, but probably would help hers. It is Christmas, she has given, let her receive. She has given us alot, even if it is only being able to read what she sees.

Norahleeb@excite.com is the address to send donations to."

"Well, people, I have to stop for now, for two reasons: I'm TIRED, and I have to use public computers, being WAY too poor to buy my own, and the computers I've been using are at a local university, which has shut down for the holiday break. I'm at the public library, which has VERY NICE computers (donated by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation), but there are *quite short* time limits (half of them are only 15 minutes). I can get blocks of computer time on Monday. " [/QUOTE]

JUST AMAZING. These are only 2 samples of many thinly veiled requests for money that I have read as I browse through these 30!!! pages of nonsense. At first, honestly, I though this was a joke, but some of you are dead serious. Talk about a sucker born every minute. Personally, I think this thread should have been shut down a long time ago, as it is just unbelievable how gullible some of these people are. I suppose if they are stupid enough to give money, then they deserve to lose it, but this is a public forum, and noralee, with all due respect, if you are so poor, why don't you go find a JOB? If your only skill is "Animal Communicator", then please, set up a website and advertise appropriately...Don't keep crying about how poor you are, hoping people will feel guilty or sorry for you or whatever, and give you money. What you are doing is one step away from panhandling on the street...and at least they say up front what they want.

Beth

LouLove

Dec. 22, 2003, 06:21 AM

Hi. I am joining this late as well. Is Pat happy with me? We have been through so many incidents together. I really try hard to listen to what she has to say. She used to always be the alpha but now she lets the others be the leaders. Do you know why?

Chingy Bling

Carol Ames

Dec. 22, 2003, 03:03 PM

I wouldurge everyone to attend a training seminar, with someone as professional, and proven as http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifawn hayman, PenelopeSmith;, GeriRyan, or ,Marlene Sandler. it is rather mind boggling ie. mind expanding , akaconsciousnessss raising what we can hear when we focus, and open ourselves to other beings; in fact, I know several people who, have been so jostled out of their customary understanding of where we,and, other beings, connect.that they "lost it" ,; I know that, after a seminar I hear not only animals but other people more distinctly, http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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remember to enjoy the moment, and take a momento enjoy!, and give thanks for thesewonderful horses in our lives.

Steve

Dec. 22, 2003, 03:25 PM

Heyy,
I was wondering if my old horse, Major, was okay. I haven't heard from his owners in a while and am concerned about his health.
I also just bought a new horse and was wondering if you could channel him, his name is Eddie, and i was wondering if he is happy going back to work.

lilblackhorse

Dec. 22, 2003, 03:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by bethkrois:
"you know, everyone who has had a reading, ought to anty up $25 or so For Norahlee. Maybe Nora has a paypal account that money could be transferred to.

$25 wouldn't hurt any of our pocketbooks, but probably would help hers. It is Christmas, she has given, let her receive. She has given us alot, even if it is only being able to read what she sees.

Norahleeb@excite.com is the address to send donations to."

"Well, people, I have to stop for now, for two reasons: I'm TIRED, and I have to use public computers, being WAY too poor to buy my own, and the computers I've been using are at a local university, which has shut down for the holiday break. I'm at the public library, which has VERY NICE computers (donated by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation), but there are *quite short* time limits (half of them are only 15 minutes). I can get blocks of computer time on Monday. " <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

JUST AMAZING. These are only 2 samples of many thinly veiled requests for money that I have read as I browse through these 30!!! pages of nonsense. At first, honestly, I though this was a joke, but some of you are dead serious. Talk about a sucker born every minute. Personally, I think this thread should have been shut down a long time ago, as it is just unbelievable how gullible some of these people are. I suppose if they are stupid enough to give money, then they deserve to lose it, but this is a public forum, and noralee, with all due respect, if you are so poor, why don't you go find a JOB? If your only skill is "Animal Communicator", then please, set up a website and advertise appropriately...Don't keep crying about how poor you are, hoping people will feel guilty or sorry for you or whatever, and give you money. What you are doing is one step away from panhandling on the street...and at least they say up front what they want.

Beth[/QUOTE]

Beth-I saw your thread knocking this on the Off Course bb. Hey, if you don't like it, then don't participate. However, you coming over here and saying that Norahlee has asked for money is a load of crap. She has not asked for money, and if you read the person you quoted, SonotaDQ is the person who mentioned paying her. Nowhere on these many pages has she mentioned money to my knowledge, and I am sure that Erin would have known about it-hell, I'm sure that you would have been the first to turn her in. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Some of us are interested-why not? What does it hurt? So what if you think it's all bullshit....many of us don't, according to how many people have posted and looked in on this thread. If you don't like it, stay away, but don't be so nasty. It was pretty childish to spread your vitriole on the other board about this. Happy Holidays indeed. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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overoxers001

Dec. 22, 2003, 05:48 PM

hi norahlee, i started this thread awhile ago and had no idea that it would escalate! anyways i hope you are having a wonderful holiday so far and if you have just a piece of spare time if you could ask my horse, beamer, what happened to his right hind leg. i have been leasing him for about a year and he is getting a little old and always has problems with this leg. my trainer (who bought him with his owner a few years ago and knew his previous owner) has no idea what could have happened. also could you ask him how his back has been feeling lately and if there is anything i can do to make it feel better? anywho, this whole psychic thing is pretty cool, i never knew it worked and i still dont know how it does! happy holidays!

~*liz*~

Hunter88

Dec. 22, 2003, 06:02 PM

I have always wanted to "test out" a/c's,but been sort of skeptical I really want to know if my horse is missing her old pasture mate. If you are too tired and can't answer I understand! and it is x-mas season, enjoy your holiday but if my horses have anything to say at all... let them know I would love to hear from them http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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deltawave

Dec. 22, 2003, 06:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
I will NEVER charge because it's against my personal philosophy. However, I AM unemployed, and several of you have VERY KINDLY have asked for a PayPal address for donations. It's norahleeb @ excite.com. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahem.

Somewhere there was a mention of how "if there would ever be a charge" it would be "something like $35" but I can't find it. There's been a lot of editing of norahlee's posts, or maybe I'm just lost in the thread!

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JulieMontgomery

Dec. 22, 2003, 06:35 PM

Ahem, indeed delta. You're not lost...

There has been a lot of editing of late. I remember the "$35" number also. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

What a crock! But it does liven up an otherwise dull evening.......

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katarine

Dec. 22, 2003, 07:05 PM

I can't see ponying up cash money after being told my horse had feet in need of professional attention. Attention she wasn't qualified to give. "Wow" was the word.

Now the crooked legged, chronically troubled JJ had nothing to say. But Jakehorse, who's still somewhat newly barefoot but 100% pasture sound, carried me soundly, happily, in a lovely forward walk/trot/canter in his old macs on a 8 mile ride Sunday. Go figure.

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ALF

Dec. 22, 2003, 07:32 PM

this thread is akin to panhandling on private property

Zaboobafoo

Dec. 22, 2003, 09:24 PM

Some people do definitely have talent...the one that always gets me is a brillant woman named Elizabeth who I asked some questions about my jumper..

The one that won me over was when I asked her what he likes to eat. She told me he really likes his grain, and carrots, and he LOVES apples(I'm rolling my eyes at this point). But then she says how much he loves sweets, and she is quiet for a moment...and then asks, do you feed him DONUTS??

I used to bring him a box of krispy kreme glazed donuts every time I went to the barn. HOW she knew such a random thing was one of his favorite treats...I was a believer!!

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vxf111

Dec. 22, 2003, 09:26 PM

Zaboobafoo, I occassionally feed my horse doughtnuts too. And I've seen people at the early AM at shows giving horses munchkin doughnut holes. I don't think it's SO uncommon!

~Veronica

P.S.-He's a perfect example of how a psychic CANNOT do wrong...

Psychic: Do you feed him doughnuts?
You: Yes, I do
Psychic: See I am amazing

OR

Psychic: Do you feed him doughnuts?
You: No I don't
Psychic: Well, he's begging me for them. Communicating to me that he loves sweets and would like to try them

THEY *CAN'T* BE WRONG http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif There are no "wrong" answers. Which makes it awfuly easy to seem amazing http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Zaboobafoo

Dec. 22, 2003, 09:33 PM

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif way to make me look gullible vx http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Its just like horoscopes, you know?? I am a Leo, and when I read Leo, I see a LOT that describes me. But if I read all the other signs, I see ways I could be those signs as well....

But I DO like the fact I am a Lion http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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vxf111

Dec. 22, 2003, 09:46 PM

I never meant to imply you were gullible Zaboobafoo. What I was pointing out is that it's easy for any 1 fact in iscolation to look pretty amazing. If someone flat out told me my horse loved doughnuts best-- I'd be as floored as you are. In a vacuum, that one "reading" is pretty amazing.

What makes it less amazing are adding other factors to the equation...

-Doughtnuts are pretty popular in general
-Horses usually like anything sweet
-Other people feed their horse doughnuts
-Doughnuts are often readily available around show horses, so are likely to be fed to them
-Other common foods are less horse friendly (coffee and bagels w/ cream cheese, for example)
-That was a question the AC couldn't get wrong!

That 1 question and answer alone look amazing. You're NOT gullible and NOT a fool. But in totality, LOOK at the readings on this thread. There are too many pieces to the equation that don't add up.

~Veronica

P.S.- Although what is AMAZING is how this thread has a life of its own. THAT I find to be a real "phenomenon."

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Baileybff

Dec. 22, 2003, 10:04 PM

Hmmmm...well, I personally thought that this thread was more along the lines of entertaining rather than take true to heart anyway?!. I will admit that I have NOT read 33 pages of it. I probably have missed out on a great deal of 'fun', lol.
Do I believe in psycics? Sometimes... Would I pay one? Probably not.
Do I believe in ghosts? Sometimes... Would I call ghost busters? Probably not.
Do I believe in aliens? HELL YEA~ oops, sorry...getting off track.

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DoubleTwistedWire

Dec. 23, 2003, 12:45 AM

OK, I'm going to ask this as an admitted skeptic, but consider myself pretty open-minded. I like evidence, but once I have it, I'm willing to believe, because I have experienced things I can't explain.

We've been doing a lot of different things with a greenie, trying to find the right niche. Can you tell me, Norah, what this horse has enjoyed the most?

I won't say any more than that, but I'm eagerly awaiting your answer. Thanks in advance for your time and effort, though http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BelladonnaLily

Dec. 23, 2003, 06:04 AM

Two questions...how does my mare feel about me and being ridden? And does my husbands mare enjoy her life with us? We almost didn't buy her and I'm wondering if she's happy.

Thanks in advance.

Badger

Dec. 23, 2003, 06:17 AM

I would be very, very interested in hearing what an eventer at my barn has to say. He is very talented but "complicated" and inconsistent. We don't know what the issue is and why he sometimes suddenly resists his job. Is he in pain, and if so where should we look?
Or is he unhappy? If so, what does he want/need and what things does he like to do?
Does he lack confidence? If so how can he be helped?

I have been intrigued and curious about this horse for several years and would really appreciate hearing what he is thinking/feeling and how he can be helped.

Thank you.

lucky2day99

Dec. 23, 2003, 06:55 AM

Wow... I have been reading this thread and to me some of the "communication" seems exactly the same for each horse. Nothing specific nothing that would say... WOW!!!

I find one part humorous... about the whole horses not wanting to think about the past. Could that be because talking about the presence an AC could probably deduce from presence and the type of person that is obviously calling them what the horse is "thinking?" The past.. you just open yourself to less of a probability of making a
"hit."

EDITED---Ugh... I can read and write.. PRESENT.. not presence. *LOL*

[This message was edited by lucky2day99 on Dec. 23, 2003 at 11:41 AM.]

nightsong

Dec. 23, 2003, 07:08 AM

Whatever you think about it, people, I'm done. While I *DID* promise to try to answer ALL comers, I just have to give up. It's just beyond me. Truly. However, I strongly suggest you (all of you) take Carol Ames' advice and learn to do it yourselves.
It's a GREAT thing to do both for YOU and for your equines. GOod luck to you all... And for those of you who asked about the "manual" I *intended* to write, I found that it's ALL HERE on t his thread, and if I TRIED to write one, it wouldn't be NEARLY as good, becasue I could NEVER get permission to include ALL THESE examples... Animals are wonderful things, aren't they???
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Dec. 23, 2003, 07:46 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JB:
Ok, norahlee, I'll play - what can you tell me about JB and Rio? Do you need pictures? I would like to know about past, current, and future living situations, and current health status. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What you want to know is easy for me to tell you. The length of it, however, has kept me from doing it before now. You really want every tiny detail of everything that has happened to each horse in the past lives? I cannot do that, in fairness to other people. But, you are next. So I ask you to put modifiers in your original sentences.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I actually did modify this a few pages ago http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Don't worry about the past. And I'm not actually talking about past lives - current lives, but in relation to current living conditions, and since hubby and I have told them about the near future living conditions, wonder what they think about that, if they can even fathom the future. I'm also interested in anything health-related for JB and Rio that they think I need to know - they each have specific issues that I could help more with if they could only talk http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Silk

Dec. 23, 2003, 10:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Pol:
Velvet, it is a horse care topic because Animal Communicators help you care for your horse. When your horse has a conversation with a communicator, you will learn many things as to why your horse behaves in certain ways. Perhaps he is painful, maybe that blue sheet you keep putting on him has prickly stitching on the inside that makes him cranky, etc etc.
Before you guys all jump on this subject and say it is a bunch of hooey, you maybe should give it a try.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gave it a try...now I truly believe its a bunch of BS. This "psychic" had almost everything wrong about my pony except to say "he thinks he is very handsome". Come to think of it, thats wrong too, because everyone who knows Smokey knows he thinks he is PRETTY, not "Handsome". Sheesh!!! I was trying so hard to give her hints, but she was just way off the boat on this animal.

She finally said he "didnt like to comminucate" and was "very hard to read because he had a wall around him". Funny...he is probably the EASIEST horse to read that I have ever met...

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JulieMontgomery

Dec. 23, 2003, 10:46 AM

Well, our resident AC is now done with us... just like she(?) was done with exracers.com before us, and I think some other place before that.

Does that mean the paypal account will be closed? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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BelladonnaLily

Dec. 23, 2003, 06:43 PM

Oh shoot. I was REALLY looking forward to having a complete stranger communicate with my horse. I figured she'd tell me that my mare LOVES treats, hates to be ridden and doesn't want to live with me anymore. Oh, and that she gets hormonal every few weeks. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

ALF

Dec. 23, 2003, 07:10 PM

I think PayPal and the FBI should be notified of 'Noralee'.

Daventry

Dec. 24, 2003, 08:23 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Originally posted by Norahlee:

then a friend showed me a book, "Animal Talk," about interspecies telepathic communication, as the author called it. It had some exercises to do. I did the exercises, and, voila!!! I can do it!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

God, I think I've seen everything now!

I do believe that there are a very few naturally gifted group of people in the world but none of them come by it lightly and I certainly don't think it can be achieved by reading some book like it was a cracker jack correspondence course!

Man, I wish I had the balls and lack of morals to con people as I could be really rich by now.

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SaddleFitterVA

Dec. 27, 2003, 07:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by vxf111:
Norahle. I posted right up front that I was a skeptic. And I still am! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Not trying to disparage you in particular, it's just that the entire idea of animal communication through vibrations in the air doesn't make sense. Nothing personal to you! Really! AND if you KNOW its true and you KNOW you can do it, why would you let me questioning of the field in general upset you??? If you can really communicate with animals, I suggests you sign up for James Randi's $1 million prize for demonstrating paranormal activity. Who couldn't use extra holiday cash??

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I talked to James Randi on Dec. 20th (I see him once or twice a year in a social setting) and he mentioned that nobody has signed up for his $1M prize.

He is excellent at debunking frauds and charletans.

Obviously I'm barely catching up on this thread as it is now Dec. 27 and I'm on page 9, but I have to say, the ability to stay composed and apparently have total faith in his/her abilities to have a psychic with horses around the globe is an excellent acting job. Except that those who believe don't think it is acting, including the so-called psychics.

I DO like to wish that I could talk to my animals and I have a few dear friends who can, and truly believe in their own ability, and since I cannot disprove them, I do not even scoff at them, but, at the same time, I'm not going to part with any of my money.

I once had a book on seeing auras. And, you know what? If I unfocus my eyes enough, I will see an "aura" around most anything. I can look at someone and "see" that aura, mine aren't in color though, just yellow/white light. Do I believe that I'm seeing something special? No, because a ROCK has an aura if you unfocus your eyes "just so".

I've also been to one of the barns of a local Animal Communicator, her web page has been mentioned in this thread, and I have to say, the "energy" there is anything but positive. But, this person has managed to build her dream farm, so more power to her.

I have a borrowed copy of Penelope Smith's "Animal Talk" and perhaps I'll try to finish it. It is a small book.

Mel

KT+SPIN=<34ever

Dec. 27, 2003, 08:34 PM

I heard this one story from a good friend of mine who has a friend that had someone come to look at their horse and they said that he is depressed because he doesn't like the color of his pink blanket!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif I'm sorry but I find that hilarious. They also said that he doesn't like the nicknames that they made up for him that he likes his orignial name which I don't remember. I have always wanted to try one though after I saw that lady on Animal Planet. Did anyone see that one where she told the lady that she had a gay parrot? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

dressager

Dec. 28, 2003, 03:56 AM

I have ONE more question if Norah is still even reading this-

Why doesn't my horse here like sugar cubes? What is it about them?

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dressager

Jan. 2, 2004, 04:49 AM

bump.

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deltawave

Jan. 2, 2004, 06:08 AM

I think Norahlee has gone on to another plane. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Dressager, your horse is telling me he/she (sorry, that part is fuzzy) would eat sugar if it were 100% organic, natural, unrefined and harvested from a renewable source AND served mixed with a bran mash with lots and lots of oats and julienned carrots. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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oldfogy

Jan. 2, 2004, 04:37 PM

have had my horse done amazing. he was right on the money.

diffuse01

Jan. 3, 2004, 05:51 PM

i recently did a session with chris stakes (from va).. it was amazing to say the least. and she didn't just state obvious things, she said stuff that you would've either had to have been there, or a vet to know. i wrote it all down on my online journal (what she said), so i'll copy it into here..:

-she said that he's sorry for rushing sometimes, or being too quick when i'm jumping, he just gets excited, but he'll try to stop since he knows i get worried.
-she said that he wants me to stop worrying about him doing anything stupid, or falling off, and that he'll never intentionally let me fall. (and i am one of those riders that is CONSTANTLY worrying)
-she said he's a real comic, and that he likes to double team with the 'light chestnut horse' (which would be tappy, who he goes out with) and pick on the others.. and that they like to pick on rikki because he always tries to join their little group and they only want to have a 2 horse group lol.
-she was talking about a show i took him to, and said that he cut this one horse off on purpose because he thought it'd be funny (which he really did do!).
-she said that he thinks it's funny to sneeze on people (which he does all the time), especially at shows because it gets their nice clothes all dirty (which he has done every show i've taken him to).
-she said that when catherine rode him he didn't like it when she hit him with the crop, that she needed to bring her stirrups a notch, and stop leaning foward so much.. and he thinks that she doesn't look too big on him (the day she rode him she was asking me if she looked ok on him.. and she smacked him with the crop because he wouldn't canter).
-she said that something happened at princess anne involving a big boom, and that he was about to jump out of his skin when it was happening. so immediately everyone standing there listening was like 'the fireworks!', go read back in my entries around july 4th or somewhere around there if you don't know the story.
she said the reason for that was that when he was younger he was in a field and something happened involving alot of fire and that all the horses ran, some right through the fence, and some got hurt. so now whenever he hears loud noises he remembers that night.
-she was like 'were you planning on dressing him up for some show?', and i was like 'yeah', so she said that gunner wanted to know what the costume was and that he wanted to do it, and that he wanted to see pictures haha.
-she said that his favorite color is blue and he wants to get serious about showing because he wants to win all the blue ribbons.
-she said anyone that doesn't like his unique coloring can kiss his ass (she didn't say that, but i forgot how she phrased it.. that's what he meant though lol), and that he knows that he is handsome and a cute jumper.
-he said that he used to be on a ranch, and they tried to get him to be a 'cow pony', but he didn't like that, and he didn't like the people riding him.. he just wanted to jump.
-he told her to tell me that he's not bending for me when i ride him because i'm not asking in the right spot. the way he was trained there were certain areas for certain things, and i need to ask 2in. higher than i normally do to get him to bend.
-she said he loves all of his vitamins except 1 of them because it's bitter.
-she said he doesn't get on trailers nicely all of the time because he thinks that i'm going to go drop him off somewhere.. because he knows i'm stressed and he thinks it's because i'm upset because i'm getting rid of him. so i have to let him know that i'm not going to before i put him on the trailer now lol.
-he told her that he wants me to chill out at shows and not get so stressed (i'm stressed constantly at shows..).
-she said that he normally takes 15-20min. to start moving nicely, and that normally he starts off at a really short strided, choppy trot, which was right on the money.
-she said he kicks out randomly in his stall because he used to have some mean mare behind him at b-ridge and he thought it was funny to adgitate her.
-he said that he heard my trainer say something about low level eventing and that he thinks its a good idea and he wants to do it. and he said he'd like to do some dressage too. (which all of this my trainer had said)
-he said he likes my trainer (steph) but that she can be a little tough sometimes. (which she is.. alot http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
-she said that he knows carol (the owner of the barn, who always has said she likes him) loves him.
-she said that he ran into something and scratched his eye, which he did do b/c it's on his vet records.
-she said that he thinks i've been riding too many crazy horses in the past. and he knew that i had broken my arm, and gotten hurt on a 'bigger bay horse'.. which would be tim (my old horse).. freaky ay?

now after all of that.. i can't NOT believe it.. yeah maybe some aren't real, but this lady was.. it was so neat.

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JusJumpIt

Jan. 3, 2004, 08:19 PM

Well shucks, I started reading this right after all the fun stuff went away, just my luck. I had a "run-in" with a vet that used a lot of accu-puncture/pressure (NOTHING wrong with that) had a psycic that she would consult (for a mere $75.00), and could often tell where a horse was sore by running her hand over an area and feeling the vibes through her arm when she got close to the sore spot. I had a boarder that was just a super good person, but a little of a "retro-hippie" (went on a trip in the 70's and did not get completely back), into a lot of alternative treatments. She was given an older horse that had bad hocks and did not want to jump anymore. All she wanted to do was light pleasure riding, she was a very excellent lawyer, worked very, very hard and just enjoyed getting to unwind with her horse. The boarder met this vet through a friend, and the vet convinced her that she could help her horse, with some massage, accu-puncture ect. So she set up an appt. for the horse, I made sure it was not when my "regular" vet was due. The vet went over the horse and thought she felt some vibrations at his shoulder. Did not do flexions, lunge, jog, just thought that his shoulder was the main problem. Well the vet did some very nice massage, brought out a few magnets, set a few accu-puncture needles on fire, and as far as I could see was hurting nothing. That was until she thought a few X-rays could help. She just marched out her portable unit, and had a helper position the horse so she could get better films, she did let me know the shoulder was a tough place to X-ray, DUH... She had the nerve to call and want to set up a new time to come out, said the films were not very good. VERY GOOD??? Must have looked like a white bunny, eating marshmallows in a blizzard. OK so the point is, it was all good harmless treatment, in fact the massage look very good to me, but when it involved taking money from one of my best boarders I had to draw the line and put on the brakes. This forum has been really great, a lot of very good, usefull information. Even some really funny amusing stories for enjoyment. But the last few posts I read reminded me of a quote "there is one born every minute" I forget who said it, but keep in mind there are always some people that will try to take advantage others. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to know that all horses just LOVE to sneeze all over us, they like it best when we are dressed in out clean work clothes. And they really do wait for you to finish cleaning and bedding their stalls before they "go" again. The really psycic ones wait untill I have lugged the muck buckets to the opposite end of the barn and have locked the closet with all the manure forks in it. Have a happy, horsey day

deltawave

Jan. 4, 2004, 07:24 AM

JusJumpIt, it was P.T. Barnum, and it was SUCKERS who he said were born every minute, no need to sugar-coat it! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Wow, I worry about my position, get stressed at shows, think my horse needs a warmup, and my horse sneezes on my dressage coat all the time, too--and I never needed an AC to point it out to me! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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diffuse01

Jan. 4, 2004, 08:26 AM

yeah yeah, i get all that stuff, like how everyone knows horses love to sneeze on us, etc. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif BUT how was she supposed to know about the fireworks on the 4th? or when my friend rode him (all that happened)? yeah, some of the things were a given, but some of them she couldn't have just guessed.

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vxf111

Jan. 4, 2004, 09:35 AM

<<yeah yeah, i get all that stuff, like how everyone knows horses love to sneeze on us, etc. BUT how was she supposed to know about the fireworks on the 4th? or when my friend rode him (all that happened)? yeah, some of the things were a given, but some of them she couldn't have just guessed.>>

Many horses are startles by the 4th of July and its fireworks. I'd hardly say it was a shot in the dark for her to guess about that. I looked at the list of her predictions and they're ALL things I could have guessed based upon knowing you, what your horse looked like (he's a pinto/ paint right?), and knowing what discipline you do. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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deltawave

Jan. 4, 2004, 12:19 PM

Diffuse, look up "cold reading". If your horse had never had a reaction to fireworks that particular part of the reading would have, for you, gone in one ear and out the other: a "miss". As it is, since your horse once had a reaction to fireworks or loud noises, (as have probably all horses at one time or another) the AC scored a "hit" with you. It's an educated guess--if it strikes a chord, you tend to remember it (*gasp!* how did he/she know that??!!??) and if it doesn't, you figure well, that particular "vibe" wasn't coming through.

If I said "your horse really doesn't like plastic bags because one blew by and really scared him when he was young" I daresay about 50-75% of people would say yes to the first part: their horse doesn't like plastic bags. Only the "believers" would say "oh my God, it's amazing!" to the second part, which would have been a fair GUESS by anybody. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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diffuse01

Jan. 4, 2004, 01:44 PM

vxf: no he's a buckskin http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
yeah i know all of that.. but we didn't react to anything as she said it, we made it a point not to because the whole point of this session with her was to see if she really was real or not. so all we did was nod and stuff.. we never directly asked her questions, and when she did say things she didn't ask us, she used 'he said he didn't like it when your friend catherine hit him with that crop when she rode him.. and he thinks she looks fine on him'. and the time my friend rode him he was being a butt so she smacked him, and the whole time she was on him she kept asking if she looked ok on him or not. the AC hadn't seen catherine, so she wouldn't have known anything about her.. i duno.. i believe, no ones gonna change that http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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rosijet

Jan. 4, 2004, 03:05 PM

Diffuse - this will always be a topic where the naysayers won't budge (unless they someday get a true reading by a REAL AC) and the believers can't be convinced that they were bamboozled. I WAS a naysayer until I had an incredible reading with specific and personal information told to me.

If I were you, I would just enjoy the experience and forget trying to sway others. Congrats on a good reading! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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deltawave

Jan. 4, 2004, 03:45 PM

Well, I'd sure be impressed if the AC said verbatim "the horse said he didn't like it when your friend Catherine hit him with the crop", but only if the AC had never heard of or seen Catherine, at all. Otherwise if you introduced her to or mentioned your friend Catherine, or the AC knew about her and it looked like she was a rider I'd wager she made another pretty good guess. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

To me it's much, MUCH easier to believe in the cleverness and ingenuity of people looking to make a buck and/or the deep desire humans have to understand things than it is to believe in mystical, magical "powers". http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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diffuse01

Jan. 4, 2004, 04:39 PM

yeah i'm gonna give up on the swaying note haha. but yes delta, she had never seen or met catherine, and had never heard of her either. she also made a statement that gunner thought i had been riding/around too many crazy horses, and that he knows i fell off a big bay horse, and broke my arm from a 'smaller spotted horse'.. which i did, i had a 13.2hh appy gelding launch out of a stall at me when i was in 5th grade (and only 47lbs.), grab me by my neck, and throw me across the barn and i broke my wrist.. soo.. yeah http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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deltawave

Jan. 4, 2004, 06:25 PM

And she named her "Catherine"? If that's the case, I'm impressed.

(the following is a random free association)

I think it's interesting that your horse's personality seems to be fairly "young", as I am assuming you are. For instance, thinking things are funny, doing things to irritate other horses on purpose, saying other horses can "kiss his ass", wanting to win "all the blue ribbons", wondering about being dressed up, etc...I've gotta say this sounds straight from a teenager's psyche! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Have any of the older folks who have had what they consider "valid" readings gotten anything like this, or were the reactions of your horses more age appropriate? I hear a lot of older adults saying things like the horse was focused on pain issues, anxiety, etc...not the type of stuff that is in the forefront of the typical adolescent mind! I don't know where to go with this thought, just wondering!

*I* believe it's a sign that the "communications" we get are straight from our subconscious, not from the horses, and are therefore subtle representations of our own temperaments. Plus I think a "good" AC is going to tell a given person what they want to hear.

Another question, did the AC get anything wrong at all, or was every statement completely true and valid. If not, I must remain skeptical that this is all a lot of good guessing (but as I said, if she got the name Catherine "cold" instead of saying "your friend" or something, I stand amazed and awed!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

(not a flame--just trying to discuss this with people)

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diffuse01

Jan. 4, 2004, 06:49 PM

yup, named her catherine without asking anything, in fact that was the first thing that came out of her mouth when she saw gunner.. 'gunner didn't like it when catherine hit him with that crop, and he thinks she looks fine on him'. yeah i guess alot of those things were 'teenager' oriented.. although she did mention his back was hurting (which was true, and she never did touch him, and he had his blanket on the whole time she saw him so she couldn't see any symptoms of pain, etc.). when i look back on everything.. everything she said was right on the money.. i can't remember anything where i was like 'what..?' so stand amazed http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Gravie

Jan. 4, 2004, 07:34 PM

It's obviously a very personal thing. And your answers will vary with the individual. There will be people who things this is a pile of horsecrap, and others who are wholehearted believers.

I don't have any experience with it -- no one at my barn uses pet psychics -- though there was a chapter in Horse Heaven with a psychic. Kind of interesting, though I don't have a very developed opinion of them yet.

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deltawave

Jan. 5, 2004, 04:22 AM

Impressive! She's got a million dollars with her name on it if she can pull off that kind of feat--have her contact Randi, the guy who has the standing offer for anyone with provable abilitis of this sort.

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War Admiral

Jan. 5, 2004, 05:02 AM

I have to say I think Diffuse01's reading sounds legit. I can differentiate between good and bad readings at this point and I think she's got a keeper. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And Deltawave, it does reflect each horse's personality. Mine was an interesting experience b/c on the other forum where my A/C found me I had always gone WAY out of my way to "sugar coat" Avery and paint him as this sweet kindly snuggly old horse... He isn't - AT ALL - and in this time frame he was actually borderline dangerous - but if she had been "cold reading" that's what she would have said. Instead I got "This horse is the most mistrustful horse I have ever met. He doesn't care for humans, not one little bit, and he's a complete control freak who will hurt people if he's not handled properly...." and so on...

On the name thing - remember my A/C was really really NEW at the game when she first did Avery, and in fact had not even "hung out her shingle" so to speak and was just practicing - but I got a name too - she said "There's a tall thin gray-haired man w/ a moustache who stands at the gate watching the horses gallop up the hill at feeding time [how did she know about the hill?], and Avery absolutely adores him - his name is something like David or Davis"... It was Davis. And he was exactly as described, and he did stand at the gate watching the horses gallop up. I knew Avery liked him, but he wasn't significant enough in MY life that I ever would have mentioned him or even thought about him much!

I still don't *rely* on animal communication, but however my A/C pulls out what she pulls out, it sure is interesting!

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deltawave

Jan. 5, 2004, 05:41 AM

WA, I know you sent me the name of yours but she seems very busy...I would love to try a "reputable" one for myself. Diffuse, does yours accept new clients and can you PT me her contact info? Thanks.

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ESG

Jan. 5, 2004, 06:06 AM

PT me and I'll give you one, as well. I'd been a skeptic for as long as I could remember, and felt pretty much like you, that the AC "read" the owner rather than the horse. However, I was at the end of my rope with my Irish horse and was open to anything.

Boy, was I impressed! I purposely didn't give her any information at all, just his name. The first thing she said "Wow, this guy has an attitude!". I'd told her nothing about him, that I was having problems or anything else. She also told me that he was a little ouchy in his neck, and one hindleg when I asked her if he felt okay, and she was bang on. He also identified riders that he really liked and the ones he was lukewarm about (I fell into the former category, thank god!), and that he understood if we really needed to sell him. We didn't, as it happened, and that communication helped me so much with him that I ended up keeping him, and he's turned into a sometime school horse! Who knew................... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Starz

Jan. 13, 2004, 10:25 AM

can someone send me a message with the name of an a/c please

BostonBanker

Jan. 13, 2004, 11:45 AM

Well, I finally got up the nerve and called an A/C this week for Tristan. It's something I've always wanted to do (mostly for fun). I've got to say, I was impressed several times.

Stuff I got out of it -

When asked how he felt physically: His left hock used to bother him, but it doesn't anymore (he was very mildly off this spring, and after a round of Legend, has been fine since). He also complained of pain in his girth area, by his chest (he's had a sore between his front legs that is slow to heal).

When asked if he liked his work and was comfortable with it: Yes, he likes the dressage a lot and really gets into it sometimes (I'd said he was a Hanoverian, so not a huge strech to assume he does dressage), and he wanted to know if I was ever going to jump him myself (I have a friend who jumps him once a week or so).

When asked if he is comfortable with the horses he goes out with: Yes, he's fine and can take care of himself. I then said that a lot of horses were coming in with injuries, but we didn't know who the "problem" horse is: It's Tristan http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Which I had assumed. But he claimed that he never started it, he just always made sure to finish it. He especially doesn't like the skinny bay horse in the field, because he's a pest (the skinny bay horse always follows Tristan around, biting at his blanket).

When asked if there was anything that would make him happier: He said that the footing had changed, and it was a big improvement, but would take some getting used to. THAT is the one that impresses me the most. I called the first day of the cold snap, so one would assume that if the footing had changed, it would have gotten worse. But, the day before I called, our barn owner had added rubber chips to the sand in the indoor. I had ridden Tristan on it the night before I called.

The only thing that seemed "off" to me was that I asked how he felt about going to horse shows, and he said that there was a lot going on, and it could be overwhelming, but he was a big show off and likes being admired. He rarely, if ever, seems upset or overwhelmed at horse shows. If anything, he's less spooky there. But, it's kind of hard to say the read on that question was right or wrong. Just didn't seem like him.

Everything else sounded very much like him. His attitude towards the other horses in the field (He doesn't start it, but always finishes it), and the response when I asked how he liked the people who handle him (If he gets scared, he just makes himself really big and uses his size to get his way)...those seem right on. And the soundness issues and the footing...pretty interesting.

Anyway, it was a very fun $20. I'd do it again!

Carol Ames

Jan. 13, 2004, 06:38 PM

right on, one on one!i do not think I ever had an ac telll my horses or cats what to do, but, they did help ME see the "issue" from another perspecttive; Find a good one, and give it atry!What ilearned required ME to change a great deal! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

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Carol Ames

Jan. 13, 2004, 06:38 PM

right on, one on one!i do not think I ever had an a/c tell my horses or cats what to do, but, they did help ME see the "issue" from another perspective; Find a good one, and give it a try!What i learned required ME to change a great deal! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

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remember to enjoy the moment, and take a momento enjoy!, and give thanks for thesewonderful horses in our lives.

[This message was edited by carol Ames on Jan. 14, 2004 at 12:13 AM.]

Carol Ames

Jan. 13, 2004, 09:30 PM

Deltawave, I would notsay tthattheAcs tell youwhat youwant to hear, infact, I have experiencedjust he oppposite! My horse, "Sweet dreams"did Not wanto carry me around event courses, but ,wanted to be a show jumper, and wanted to be riddden by a 13 yogirl weighing c. 85 pounds, withan unusual name , I thought, oh sure, where do I find this person?So, I advertised roised her inthe"eventing" issue of COTH, and, got only ONEcall, but, itwasTHE right call!People from California, looking for a daughter, grandaughter, when the girl hreself flew East to try her,i was floored! She was built like a pencil!, weighed maybe 65 pounds,and, the two fit one anotherperfectly!the girls' name? "Boo", She showed Little Bit inthe childrens' jumper divsion, where they were champion at their first show! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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dressager

Jan. 17, 2004, 08:59 AM

Bumpity bump- looking to see if Norah sees this. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Jaime

Jan. 31, 2004, 11:03 PM

I saw a previous thread on a guy named Bill Northern...whom people seemed to praise.

I am looking to do a readong on a horse of mine. I used a wonderful lady spoken of by Zaboobafoo -- and aside from the donut thing - she was AMAZING....I had a very sick horse and without even telling her the horse was sick, she picked up on it AND was able to diagnose it before the vets even could - which it was something completely out of the ordinary. Pretty freaky,,,. Anyways, I would like to try someone different just to see what else is out there. Does anyone have Bills number? Thanks in advance!
Jaime

aspi

Feb. 1, 2004, 03:25 AM

horse_poor

Feb. 1, 2004, 06:52 AM

i swear by my AC and she has made a HUGE difference in aeros life. she told me things no one could have known---even me.....not gonna go into the whole sotry unless someone wants to hear it.....but i swear by her

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Jaime

Feb. 1, 2004, 11:33 AM

horse_poor: Who is your AC? Can you post a few stories? I for one, would love to hear them! I really want to try someone new and am "shopping around." Neither of my horses are in my possession right now (both leased out) so I am looking for someone who can do it over the phone. I just want to see how they are doing. Thanks in advance http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Jaime

seal

Feb. 1, 2004, 01:54 PM

Norahlee,

I have a wonderful young gelding who will be 3 in April. I want to make sure he is happy and healthy, and I would like to know when he would be ready physically/mentally to be started under saddle. Should I start him in May, or wait until fall when he is 3 1/2?

Also, is he happy in his new home and with me?

Thanks so much! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

horse_poor

Feb. 1, 2004, 03:39 PM

ok jaime since you asked.....

my A/C is robin williamson from WI and we do everything over the phone....

Aero told her he was hurt his leg when the golden horse chased him into the pond (aero was chased thru the pond and bowed his tendon by my roommates horse, a buckskin)

aero said the "man in the hat" is kind and gentle but can be cranky (our barn gut---only guy who wears a hat and he is GREAT with the horses but kinda cranky with people)

she said aero felt very tippy, like a chair with a leg that was shorter than the rest---spoke with vet a farrier--yep, his front left leg/foot is almost half an inch shorter

aero ear hurt at the very tip-went to look after hearing this and underneath the hair there was a small sore

Aero likes it when i wrap his front legs in pink wraps (yes he specifaclly said pink and who in their right mind would wrap a chestnut gelding in pink besidess me)

Aeros back left leg was tender-he wasnt lame but it was kinda ouchy and if i ran my hand down it i would find a warm spot in the middle of the outside of his leg (i went out the next day and there it was-a warm spot on his outside cannon) he requested that i wrap it with a blue wrap and if it wouldnt be too much trouble could he have a blue blanket to match because just because he is retired doesnt mean he cant still look good

aero likes his hay in the haynet AND one flake in the hayrack (how would she know about the haybag or hayrack?)

aero doesnt like my other horse brown-brown is a scaredy cat and reminds him of a dull stdebaker (brown is has some self esteem issues-now i think i know why-aero makes fun of him!)

aero doesnt like the bay stud in the other aisle in the last stall to the right and to mock him aero refers to him as suzy because bosco thinks he is all that but aero says he is not(how would she know there is a stud in the last stall)

when asked if he would like to show and work again he said "yes very gently, and maybe the pretty girl with the long hair that my mom teaches can ride me" he was very worried that he would hurt a rider since he didnt trust his own body and felt if i was on the ground and someone else was on him then he would feel better.

aero doesnt like to watch other horses be worked when he cant be worked-it makes his heart hurt. ( i used to let him watch other work in the indoor as we were handwalking)

aero thought his time to "go" would be in 2-3 months and is feeling very betrayed by his body and doesnt under stand why he cannot do what he used to and this makes him angry. (this was on our first talk-since then aer has decided it will not be his time to "go" for a while and is feeling better about his body since he is now being worked lightly)

people used to be very cruel to him and he was beaten with a riding crop, arounf the time when a man was training him and a woman was riding him-he liked the woman but not the man and didnt like men in general (i know who these 2 people are btw) he has had some kind owners and some horrible owners

he would like to win another 6 foot trophy and misses people applauding for him.

one day after i had laid down in his stall and fed him treats i had a session with my AC and when asked if he liked me being in his stall he said "next time bring a couch"

when he lived at home he did not understand why he couldnt sleep in the house (he tried to come in on many occassions)

what brown said:

brown is laid back, no big deals, no he comes from great bloodlines but so what-they made him go on the track but he just didnt want to go fast

his back hurt on the left side (confirmed the next day by vet/chiro)

thought aero talked to much and was bossy

misses his old owner very very much and wished she would visit more and tickle his lips

he needs his rider to have confidence as he is very unsure of himself and he is afraid if he does something wrong then he will be beaten like he was before his last owner had him.

he really wants to please me but he gets confused sometimes and then feels like he has to "jump out of his skin" like that day he reared-he didnt mean to but he didnt know what else to do-he wants someone to explain tings before they make him do it

he sees me as stubborn which is how i see him (i just cannot connect with this horse)

there is more but this is all i can come up with off the top of my head

molly
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oldfogy

Feb. 1, 2004, 04:09 PM

bill northern has a web site he explains every thing www.billnorthern.com (http://www.billnorthern.com)

Jaime

Feb. 4, 2004, 06:48 AM

Horse_poor: Thanks for the info! I loved hearing your stories.
oldfogy: thanks for the website too http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif That person reminds me of a horse whiperer more than an AC?
There are sooo many out there and Im having such a hard time deciding who to use! I really love mine but have called her 3 times about my horse already - and would like to hear what someone else has to say http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
A friend recomended Marlene Sanders - anyone know anything else on that one?>

Pocket Pony

Feb. 4, 2004, 10:15 AM

I used Bill Northern for my new horse, Miles. The first thing he said (and he was laughing at the time) is that Miles wants to be a barrel racer, that he likes to go FAST!

Some other things he said weren't really "on". I had him do a reading for Mickey before that was ok.

I basically do it for fun and entertainment value. I enjoy hearing what they have to say.

Oh, also - Norahlee contacted me in a PT after I posted on here a looong time ago. She actually had some pretty accurate things to say.

"Both rider and horse must enjoy the work. This is the essence of success" - Reiner Klimke

Schoolmarm

Feb. 4, 2004, 10:46 AM

I'm glad to see this thread is still running!

I just had a reading last week with my favorite A/C, and I was interested to see that she repeated some information from last year's reading (almost exactly a year earlier) pretty much verbatim. Now, I suppose it's possible she taped my reading last year and referred to it this year. I only had her overlap readings on two horses. The others were ones she hadn't read before.

So, my question is, has anyone had repeat readings done and found that the A/C reiterated information from an earlier reading? Is that a good thing in your opinion, or does it throw a shadow on the reading? She has always been right on the money with everything she's told me, even down to things I hadn't known before about my horses but later found out were true. Part of me wants to throw myself into this belief system whole-heartedly, but part is holding back, wondering if the whole thing is just a parlor trick.

I also had her read my ancient (19-yo) cat, who has had a huge personality change in the past few months from terrified of everything and living in the linen closet (hence the nickname "Closet Kitty") to Mr. Happy, wandering around the scary outdoors (never, EVER left the house before!) and beating the crud out of the two younger cats despite being declawed. She told me he's going deaf! My daughter had suggested that to me, but we hadn't been able to prove it. He never was very responsive to noise. Ginny told me that "It's gotten considerably quieter lately". When she asked him what he could hear, the things he showed her were all at the high end of the register. She reported that the world wasn't so scary now that it was quiet, and that "life is short; I've missed a lot, and nothing bad has ever happened" so he's decided to see what's out there while he still has his health. She mentioned that he "likes the affection". I didn't tell her anything, so she had no way of knowing that he's been glued to my lap for weeks now, just sleeping and hanging out. He doesn't purr or meow, which might be a reflection of his deafness.

So, the endless quest for information and affirmation continues, and questions remain.

PS: This was a telephone reading. She's never seen me or any of my animals in any way or shape, so I have eliminated body language and keen observation as intervening factors here.

**If you're lucky enough to own a horse, you're lucky enough.**

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MissusIsMyAp

Feb. 8, 2004, 12:08 AM

[QUOTE] I'll be putting together a person-to-animal communication manual. It'll be done in about two weeks. I'm currently half-absorbed with getting another job and a place to live, but that doesn't occupy my entire self. I'll GIVE THEM AWAY to anyone who sends me (or has sent me already) a request.

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I am very interested in this topic.. This is the first time I've visited this forum, so I;m not sure how to even post or how I could send this request to you directly.. but please add me to your list!!! hippiecx44@aol.com

horse_poor

Feb. 8, 2004, 08:39 AM

schoolmarm-during my readings my a/c has brought up things from the past, but kind of to touch base, as in how that particular issue is...like aeros legs feels better or he is feeling more confident about his issues with his body

i like when these things are brought up because they were issues i pondered about and wanted to know how they were doing.

i dont think it throws a shadow on the reading at all

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Perfect Pony

Feb. 8, 2004, 08:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by batgirl:
I used Bill Northern for my new horse, Miles. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Susan, did you do this over the phone? I just can't get my head around how someone would "communicate" without actually seeing and touching the animal. I don't know how I feel about this, but it would be more believable if they did it in person.

After a particularly bad day at the barn yesterday (Dan not only did his rearing while I walked him, but it continued over into the lunge line, and then while riding a girl got run away with while I was in the ring and he started to go up with me on his back!) I picked up the new issue of RIDE and read an article on Ann Kursinski that said she regularly uses an animal communicator. I would just love to figure out why my docile, friendly, wonderful horse just blows a fuse every once in a while and turns into a fire breathing monster. I found myself yesterday just wishing I could get indie his head somehow and ask him what it's about.

Is this AC thing too good to be true?

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