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Texan By The Grace Of God
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:12 AM
please help me with a project...i am writing a paper on famous pony/horse hunters...could you list famous horses or ponies that have been successful in the hunters. some from a while ago and some from now. could you also list their major wins??? or even a picture would be great!! thanks a ton!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"It is the difficult horses that have the most to give you."

G.A. Barnes

Texan By The Grace Of God
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:12 AM
please help me with a project...i am writing a paper on famous pony/horse hunters...could you list famous horses or ponies that have been successful in the hunters. some from a while ago and some from now. could you also list their major wins??? or even a picture would be great!! thanks a ton!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"It is the difficult horses that have the most to give you."

G.A. Barnes

lauriep
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:25 AM
From awhile ago:
Ruxton
San Felipe
Riot Free
Touch the Sun
Terra Cotta
Henry the Hawk
Circuit Breaker

I have no pictures, or their winnings, but each was one of the top regular working hunters of their time.

Not so up on ponies, but some top winners were:
Dresden
Chantilly
Southern Gray
Snow Goose
Farnley Blue Chip


Laurie

Celebrity
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:27 AM
For ponies what about pony dot com?? And there are definitly pictures of him everywhere!!!

Holsteiner Clique!
http://home.cogeco.ca/~patm/NOVA2.htm

Lord Helpus
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:28 AM
I can chime in with some old timers.

Pikes Peak, Not Always, Cap and Gown, Old Dominion, Duke of Paeone (I have butchered the spelling. Perhaps some other old timers can help me out on this one -- He was my dream horse when I was a little kid), Vim, anything ridden by Dave Kelly -- Royal Reveler comes to mind but there are many more.

I have no old pictures, but if you find some, don't be surprised if these wonderful horses are not using their front ends like the hunters of today do. They galloped on and jumped much more across the jump, as opposed to getting deep and curling around it. So they look flat and their front ends are only marginal by today's criteria.

Then, more recently there were the wonderful horses like Stocking Stuffer, Weather Permitting, Super Flash, Sutton Place, Madison Avenue, Spindletop Showdown, Captain Flash and anything owned by Cismont Manor.

I will let the younger generation list the more modern ones.

There is at leat one old thread on ponies of the past which will list many, many names.

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When life gives you crap, make crapenade.

Nauset
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:32 AM
I can't believe no one mentioned Rox Dene or Strapless!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

..:*:..:*:..:*:.BAS.:*:..:*:..:*:..
No Jumps, No Glory
Know Jumps, Know Glory

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lauriep
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:37 AM
Sam, LHU and I were speaking of "yesteryear." I'm sure the young folks will bring those names up.

Pam, it is Duke of Paeonian! I knew you would come through with the ones from a few years before mine!

Also, I only listed working horses, not conformation. Another would be Balalaika.

Laurie

[This message was edited by lauriep on Oct. 10, 2003 at 10:10 AM.]

pony_hunter_rider
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:37 AM
fOR a pony i would definetly say Pony Dot Com, im in Canada so im not too sure about the ponys and horses there but Dot seems to be EVERYWHERE and also have heard alot about Strapless.

Janet
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:38 AM
(Spindletop) Showdown (was shown both with and without the Spindletop prefix), listed by LH, is the one that immediately came to my mind.

"Sign the Card" and "Valhalla" are two others that come to mind that have not yet been named.

LH- was Royal Reveler a Tanrakin horse? The name seems to ring THAT bell for me.

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

horseygurl182
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:41 AM
Rox Dene, Pony dot com, Strapless, Newsworthy, Red Panda (I love this horse), Skky

*Worthwhile*
*Believe In Me*
*Bolero*
*Look No Further*

catchy
Oct. 9, 2003, 11:45 AM
classy 80s gal...Centerfold

Ketch
Oct. 9, 2003, 12:02 PM
For ponies:
Chardonnay
Devil's River
Pillow Talk
Captain Hook

Impromptu
Oct. 9, 2003, 12:40 PM
If you decide to write about Snow Goose, I can get pictures for you or ask his owner questions for you if you would like.

Sara. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

*New pictures!*
http://community.webshots.com/user/stainlesssteal ~ My babys!
http://community.webshots.com/user/undersuspicion ~ Devon 2003

happy mouth
Oct. 9, 2003, 12:42 PM
how about Baby Seal

Chelsea
Oct. 9, 2003, 12:45 PM
Snowgoose, Heirloom, Rox Dene, Kiss Me Not, Hillcrest Better Than Blue...

----------------------------
.Boomerang.Major Trouble.Irish Echo.Irresistible.Rainman.Capitol Scene.

..No Guts, no glory. No brains, no headaches..

Charlotte
Oct. 9, 2003, 12:57 PM
Gabby- if you need pictures, I have a lot of pictures of older horses and ponies, including Pillow Talk, Captain Hook... ones like that.

Charlotte

Scarlet 1
Oct. 9, 2003, 01:00 PM
Shenandoah Opal for ponies and Murmansk and Gozzi for hunters.

Hexel
Oct. 9, 2003, 01:02 PM
Gozzi, January's Best, Ozcar, Hollywood, Celebrity, of course my all time favorite Rox Dene.

*Bounce*
Oct. 9, 2003, 01:03 PM
Chopard

Little Indian
Oct. 9, 2003, 01:13 PM
Osczar

Flashy Gray
Oct. 9, 2003, 01:19 PM
Sign the Card

Just My Style
Oct. 9, 2003, 01:34 PM
Yes I Can

GA Clique/Drafties Clique
Help control the pet population- Spay and Neuter your pets!

Lord Helpus
Oct. 9, 2003, 02:18 PM
LP, I'll see your Balalaika and raise you an Aldie Belle.

Edited to agree with LP's spelling, below. Of course it is Aldie Belle, AKA the Belle of Aldie.

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When life gives you crap, make crapenade.

[This message was edited by Lord Helpus on Oct. 09, 2003 at 07:09 PM.]

[This message was edited by Lord Helpus on Oct. 09, 2003 at 07:12 PM.]

Chldrnshntr07
Oct. 9, 2003, 02:41 PM
hmm...

Large Ponies
Newsworthy
Remember the Laughter
Dreamboat
Brighton Guiding Light

Medium Ponies
Under the Rainbeau
Captain Hook
Lucky Too
Kiss Me Not
Snowgoose
Blue Mist

Small Ponies
Yes I Can
Pony Dot Com

Horses
Walkabout
Rox Dene
Ruxton
Weather Permitting
Strapless
Chopard

theres so many! i would have to ask my trainer...

*Allison*

*>North Shore*Germantown<*

http://community.webshots.com/user/gtnsrider07

Janet
Oct. 9, 2003, 02:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lord Helpus:
LP, I'll see your Balalika and raise you an Aldie Bell

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When life gives you crap, make crapenade.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ah yes, I still remember when I moved to Virginia and discovered the village of Aldie. "So that's where the name came from!" But wasn't it Aldie Belle?

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

CBoylen
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lord Helpus:
anything ridden by Dave Kelly -- Royal Reveler comes to mind but there are many more.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, to whomever asked, he was a tanrackin horse.
Some would be: Early Star, Tourist Encore, Claridges, Midflight, Lansonette, Anitas Lad, Among the Stars, Up in Smoke, Sungirt http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
A pic of claridges can be found in Dave's SJHOF profile.

other good hunters: Shannondale, Waiting Home, Bronze Star, Thou Swell, Isgilde, Vital Victory, Little Sailer, Little Fiddle, Bold Mistral (a hunter AND a jumper)http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Vandy
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:20 PM
More Dave Kelley horses:
Gold Platter
Model Cadet
Flying Tiger

butkrustag
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:25 PM
I don't know if you are sticking to just hunters, but I think these two pony jumpers are very note worthy...

Little Squire a 13 hand connemara won the open jumping championship at Madison Square Garden in 1932.

Stroller, 14.1 ish, won the individual silver medal in the '68 olympics with Marion Coakes from the British team.

Shorty
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:26 PM
For Ponies - Keswick - champion at every major show, won pony competition
twice.
Hot Shot Kid - Terry Rudd's bay pony.
Prim'n'Proper - another great pony of that era.
For Hunters - Showdown - Champion for everyone who showed him.
Riot Free & Not Always - from the group of old run & jump boys, who could really jump the 4 - 4'6" working jumps.

Seems the horses should be split into The Pros, Juniors, Amateurs...Ponies by size or elso it is like comparing apples & oranges.
Also, are you looking for the horses who have great records because they went to a million shows or those which won consistently at the important shows ?

Parminch
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:30 PM
You all have named some great ones!
I have a stack of black and white pictures from Sedgefield of old with Dave and Judy Kelly, Joe Darby, Rodney Jenkins, Kats Leib, A and Bunny Cone, Nancy Bonham, etc that are really great.... no scanner however. C.Boylen remind me to show them to you next time you come to SP...(If we ever get you back here)
I also have to mention Protocol as one of the great working hunters!
I was lucky enough to have Protocol, Anchor Man, Chardonnay, Liseter Flying Day, Just A Star, Tennessee Waltz Dance on Ice , Woodland's First Ballot all in the barn..... they are all on the great list to me but I may be slightly predjudiced.

~Pine Meadow Farm~

[This message was edited by Parminch on Oct. 10, 2003 at 11:48 AM.]

thecowboyway
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:39 PM
What about; Protocol
Pathfinder
Hoodwinked
Whadyasay
Tindle
Dexter Dan
PLain Brown Wrapper

Pirateer
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:42 PM
Kimberling
Tiny's Thoughts
Rivet
Old Salt
Whadyasay
Sanman
Hot Soup
Excitress
Charge Account
French Leave
Ivory Coast

Rebecca and SNL (Stewie)
http://www.bluffparkfarm.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/pirateer

Silly Mommy
Oct. 9, 2003, 03:47 PM
Parminch -

You rode Twerp??? He was such a good egg!

tcw - wasn't it Master Dan??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Adding my boy Mandarin to the list.

Most people who go around fanning the flames of crises are themselves the problem.


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starlight
Oct. 9, 2003, 04:01 PM
Stroeller! I remember that one! Jet Run was my favorite jumper of all time!

On a side note, anyone remember Elfin Magic? Who rode that horse?

Protocol, reg. workings; Scot To Do, green conf.; Short Stop, sm. ponies; Dow Jones, lg. ponies; I.C. Blue shadow...was that a small??

erica http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thecowboyway
Oct. 9, 2003, 04:02 PM
Silly Mommy, you're right! My brain is like a sieve sometimes! LOL

Parminch
Oct. 9, 2003, 04:16 PM
No Silly Mommy .....I am much much too old to have ridden him..... I am even too old to have ridden Chardonnay when he was green....lol..... but I had them all in the barn back when I trained and rode them at home etc. (We called him Fly)

~Pine Meadow Farm~

Parminch
Oct. 9, 2003, 04:23 PM
Well .....DUH......How could I leave out hubby's great ones.....The Wizard and Zoom!

~Pine Meadow Farm~

Lord Helpus
Oct. 9, 2003, 04:26 PM
We cannot forget our own LaurieB's Pride and Joy, and her sister (?) Prim and Proper

Also the Tanracken ponies: Coed Coach Llewedrew (that is spelled phonetically, not the correct Welch way http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif), Welland Valley Early Bird to name two.

Also Snapshot (owned by the Kirby's), and Wizard of Oz, and Jellybean, and Sandy Lobel's Mischief

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When life gives you crap, make crapenade.

Madeline
Oct. 9, 2003, 05:46 PM
Workings:
Isgilde
Not Always
Child's Play

Conformations:
Duke of Paeonian
Cool Climate ( might have been Cold Climate)
Cap and Gown

Large Ponies:
Hot Shot Kid
Mousie


Juniors:
Marianna

madeline

Silly Mommy
Oct. 9, 2003, 06:03 PM
He'll always be Twerp to me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif! When he first came to me, he was a bit mischeivous, and also far smaller than Boren and the other horses http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I was showing at the time, thus the barn name Twerpie!

JSB took a pic of us in the outgate at Detroit watching the Grand Prix. I was on him bareback, halter, and one lead - he was sleeping - great way to spend the day off I think. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Most people who go around fanning the flames of crises are themselves the problem.


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lauriep
Oct. 9, 2003, 07:10 PM
Parker, if you would trust me with them, I'll scan them and put them on a disc for you, and add them to my growing collection too! I have most of Karen Golding's albums here even as we speak! I'm dead serious!

Laurie

SED
Oct. 9, 2003, 07:20 PM
Texan -- How's boarding school in Baltimore? We Texans have been wondering how you are doing. After the paper is written and you are caught up, let us all know how it is going.

lauriep
Oct. 9, 2003, 07:55 PM
OK, a treat for you! Some of the oldies, as promised.

Laurie

Emily Grayson
Oct. 9, 2003, 08:25 PM
What about Overdressed....I used to love that horse...his barn name was Ernie too (same as my baby!!) Also ponies, Unlock the Magic was one of my all time favorites (when she was being good!)

*Emily*

FLF
Oct. 9, 2003, 08:55 PM
Definitely Sign the Card, also just loved Sketiton (spelling?) - for ponies - how about Upland Puffin, Liseter Goldilocks, Listeter Gold Coin, Severn Eagle....love the past!

I love this country!!
www.foxlairponies.com (http://www.foxlairponies.com)

Parminch
Oct. 10, 2003, 03:47 AM
Lauriep......that would be great...send me your address and I will send them to you.
There are some great ones..... including Gozzi, Gamecock, San Felipe, etc.
Joey has sideburns down to his chin.....lol.
I will get Judy Kelly to tell us who the ones of she and Dave are.

~Pine Meadow Farm~

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 05:48 AM
Parker, I'll email you today!

Sorry, gys, my computer went ballistic; I didn't even think the one above came through. Here are some more!

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 05:52 AM
Next!

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 05:54 AM
Another...

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 05:55 AM
Aren't these great?

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 06:04 AM
Last but not least!

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 06:07 AM
Pam, you must have some pictures of the great ones! Share, share!!

Laurie

Ruby G. Weber
Oct. 10, 2003, 06:34 AM
Glad to see someone finally mentioned Tindle! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BTW LH--Snapshot, aka Highfield's Snapshot, was I believe owned by the Saunders family of which one son, Kerby, rode and showed him before he was passed down to Jackie.

Flashy Gray
Oct. 10, 2003, 07:12 AM
Laurie - those pics are fantastic. Cap and Gown was NOT TO BE BELIEVED, what a great pic with Gene C. up.

That Kimberling photo is in "The Hunter" by Margaret Cabell Self, also a good source of awesome old photos.

Am kicking myself for forgetting Whadyasay!

Anyone remember Lion in Winter - bright bay, blaze, early 80s I think?

Hexel
Oct. 10, 2003, 07:23 AM
Thank you for the pics. Wow are they bringing back memories. I'd love to know the breeding on these great hunters. Also I noticed many are using the automatic release, it makes for such a nice, smooth soft line between hand and bit.
Tindle was a super horse I had him in mind but could not come up with his name. Katie, Patty, Rodney, Joey, Danny, Carleton, Hap, Olin, Ray,
Louise, Peggy, Terry, Betty, Tommy, are just a few names that come to mind when I think of great hunters. I'm sure I've missed many, but these are the ones that came to my aged mind the most quickly. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

Janet
Oct. 10, 2003, 07:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Also I noticed many are using the automatic release, it makes for such a nice, smooth soft line between hand and bit.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And they are jumping solid fences (love that Aikin in the Upperville picture), probably out of a faster pace than today.

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

Dixie79
Oct. 10, 2003, 07:37 AM
From ponies when I was younger, I think

Nilla Wafer
Hillcrest Better than Blue
Tickled Pink
Cloth O'Gold
Magical Cloud
Silvertide
Dance on Ice
Dreamboat
For Kids Sake
Steel Breeze

Madeline
Oct. 10, 2003, 08:45 AM
Note on Photo of DUke of Paeonian, running martingale...

Solid fences, outside courses, pace, automatic releases, those were the days...

madeline

Windsor
Oct. 10, 2003, 09:11 AM
I don't have a fraction of the knowledge or experience of most of you on these boards, but I have leafed through enough books and studied enough photos that I can't help but wonder how today's hunter and today's hunter rider evolved. From purely an aesethetic point of view, I think many of the horses from the 50s, 60s, and 70s look so much more relaxed and natural--effortless--than the horses and riders I see in magazines today. It's weird--almost as though I can predict how the horse and rider are going to look by whether the photo is color (as in recent) or black-and-white (from the 50s, 60s, 70s). Looking at older photos I EXPECT to see even young riders with their legs under them, using automatic releases, jumping with the horse (not ahead), NOT collapsing on the horse's neck, whereas if I looked through the latest issue of COTH I'd expect more of the opposite.

I think it was Pam who mentioned that hunters then jumped much more across the fences than the hunters today who curl around them. If form is supposed to follow function, isn't it BETTER for a horse to jump across the fences, covering more ground with each jump (as long as he's not TOO flat) rather than exhibiting a really exaggerated bascule which seems more tiring and less efficient?

I hope I didn't totally hijack "Texan's" thread. I know I'd still love to see more photos and names of greats past and present.

Also, for those of you who love the "golden oldie" photos as much as I do, try to pick up a copy of the book A Field of Horses. It's devoted entirely to the photography of Marshall Hawkins, and inlcudes entire chapters of old photos of champion hunters in action, foxhunting scenes, steeplechasers, etc. GREAT book.

Reggie
Oct. 10, 2003, 09:35 AM
ponies..
Highfield's Town and Country
Hot Shot Kid
Rebel
Midget
Wizard of Oz

Horse..
Not Always
Showdown
Cap and Gown
Spindletop Jonapone
Please Note
Best Chance
Wee Ken
Take the Field

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 09:52 AM
Good eyes, Madeline! I've probably looked at that picture 1000 times over the years, and never noticed anything but the shine and dapples!

Laurie

adhunter
Oct. 10, 2003, 11:00 AM
Stocking Stuffer

Chldrnshntr07
Oct. 10, 2003, 01:29 PM
i have more!

Whiz Kid (Click for pic (http://www.jtfarm.com/whizkid.jpeg))
As We Speak
Clyde Barrow
Arrivederci
Out of the Blue
Season Ticket
Onyx
Repeat Performance
Up North
Pearl Gold (Click for a pic (http://www.jtfarm.com/ellentoonpearlgoa.jpeg))
Fade to Black (Click for a pic (http://www.jtfarm.com/fadetoblacka.jpeg))
Wise Disguise (Click for a pic (http://www.jtfarm.com/wisedisguise.jpeg))

those are some more recent (80's-90's) but still nice nontheless! i will ask my trainer tomorrow and list some more!

*Allison*

*&gt;North Shore*Germantown&lt;*

http://community.webshots.com/user/gtnsrider07

Stars
Oct. 10, 2003, 01:46 PM
chldrnshntr07 How do you know the pony, Under the Rainbeau? She has been dead for several years.

Chldrnshntr07
Oct. 10, 2003, 04:57 PM
stars- my trainer remembers her from when she was in her prime http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

*Allison*

*&gt;North Shore*Germantown&lt;*

http://community.webshots.com/user/gtnsrider07

Madeline
Oct. 10, 2003, 05:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lauriep:
Good eyes, Madeline! I've probably looked at that picture 1000 times over the years, and never noticed anything but the shine and dapples!

Laurie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm old enough to have seen him in the flesh. He was one of the most totally elegant horses I ever saw.

I noticed the RM because there was just a thread discussing whether they were legal for hunters.

madeline

madeline

o2binca
Oct. 10, 2003, 05:40 PM
I have a picture of Vim right after he came out to California. It is just over a little fence at a schooling show (LHU do you recognize the indoor at Santa Rosa?), but I think some of his presence still shows through. Sadly, he never made it to a big show on the West Coast as he died from a large growth in his intestine 6 weeks after arriving in CA.

I'll add Susie Hutchinson's Best Bet to the list.

mickey
Oct. 10, 2003, 06:25 PM
As a past OWF employee, how about Snap Decision and The News. Both fabulous jumpers who won a lot inthe regulars and also did the amatuers successfully. The News also brings up Domino, another DWB (both were paints) who was succesful in the regulars with Peter Pletcher.

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 06:32 PM
o2binca, I always wondered what became of Vim. Thanks for the picture and the info.

Laurie

Little Indian
Oct. 10, 2003, 07:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dixie79:
From ponies when I was younger, I think

Nilla Wafer
Hillcrest Better than Blue
Tickled Pink
Cloth O'Gold
Magical Cloud
Silvertide
Dance on Ice
Dreamboat
For Kids Sake
Steel Breeze<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cloth O'Gold is with the Applegates in CA. before they owned him/her, the pony was owned by my friend Allison.

Va2Ga
Oct. 10, 2003, 08:13 PM
Farnley Nimbel who was by Farnley Luster.

lauriep
Oct. 10, 2003, 08:45 PM
Good news and bad news, folks!

Good: Parminch has already sent me the pictures she was talking about! I'll post them when I get them.

Bad: I am leaving for FL on Tuesday, and won't return until the 22nd, so won't connect with the pics til then. So, keep watching for a new thread sometime after the 22nd with a snappy title like "pictures of famous hunters!"

I did find that I have the book THE HUNTER, mentioned above, with a lovely pic of Sign the Card, Li-Ke and Perfect Stranger. Will post tomorrow!

Laurie

rusti
Oct. 11, 2003, 05:41 AM
Most Wanted, gotta mention him because I knew him when he was a naughty little stallion. grew up to be very impressive and such a nice well behaved gelding!

frisbee32
Oct. 11, 2003, 04:58 PM
Sea Wasp, he was AHSA national champion 91', 92', 93' in the Regular Conformation hunters.

Charlotte
Oct. 11, 2003, 05:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by frisbee32:
Sea Wasp, he was AHSA national champion 91', 92', 93' in the Regular Conformation hunters.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This one I have pictures of too, Gabby.

Charlotte

frisbee32
Oct. 11, 2003, 06:58 PM
I would be very interested in seeing your pictures of Sea Wasp. I have his COTH, year end issues with those pictures but would really like to see yours!

Va2Ga
Oct. 12, 2003, 10:11 AM
my friend rode Sea Wasp in the Juniors. She rode him i think for a year she loved that horse.

khobstetter
Oct. 12, 2003, 10:17 AM
lauriep.......... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I just saw your original post....Riot Free !!!!! haven't heard that name is sooooooooooooooooooo many years.

I found the horse originally on the track and bought him with 2 fairly young girls...he was a real sh^&%$ in the beginning..BUT we won alot with him..

Such a beautiful mover and one of the best hunters in that time...but he was sure a smart alec!!!!!!!!

Did you know the horse..what ever became of him???

http://www.foxpointefarm.com
http://www.go-sho.org

Lord Helpus
Oct. 12, 2003, 01:14 PM
O2binca -- Do you know what year Lu rode Vim? I rode with Butch and Lu in 76 -76'ish. Wasn;t that about the time that Vim was famous? Yet I do not remember him being in California. Must have been before my time. And yes, I DO recognixze Lyttle Cow Palace......

And, yes, Ruby: I meant ighfields Snapshot, owned by the Saunders. He was ridden by Kerby before Kerby's untimely death from the shot gum accident. Jack then rode him.

[Kerby Saunders was the first boy I ever kissed.............. Ahhhhhh, memories.....................]

Isn't Duke of Paeonian the absolutely most gorgeous horse in the whole entire world? As a kid I had his picture taped to my wall, when other kids had movie starts taped to theirs.... I had not seen a picture of him in many, many decades. Thanks Laurie for the picture.

But, sadly, I have no old pictures of the greats from the past. I am luck to have memories of seeing them at MSG as a little kid, though.

buryinghill2
Oct. 12, 2003, 01:23 PM
Touch the Sun
Henry the Hawk
Russian Caviar
Dillon

o2binca
Oct. 12, 2003, 03:54 PM
Pam - Gary Ryman and Michelle McEvoy took Butch and Lu on quite the shopping trip through Virginia and New York in December of '75. I was fortunate enough to tag along (in awe) and show everyone how horses went with a junior ride. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif It was right when Charlie Weaver started riding for Cismont Manor and Gary was moving back to CA. Anyway, Vim (whom BTW I didn't get to ride) was one of Gary's favorite horses, so he was very excited that the horse was heading west also.

Vim arrived (along with Tap the Till) in January of '76. He went to two schooling shows, one at Santa Rosa and one at Pacific Horse Center. A week or two later, when we were getting ready to leave for the Arizona circuit, Vim started colicing. He was rushed to Davis and they found a large tumor in his intestine and were unable to save him. He was only in CA about 6 weeks before he died. We were all devasdated and no one talked about it much afterwards.

Tap the Till (who I'm sure you remember also) was never sick or lame a day in his life and died three years ago at age 32 after a long happy retirement. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lauriep
Oct. 12, 2003, 05:04 PM
Kathy, Edie Spruance owned Riot until he died (I can't remember how long ago, but I can find out). He was Betsy Mackenzie's special boy, and when I see her later this month, I'll scan a couple of pictures of him.

Yes I knew him! He was a spoiled brat (Betsy's fault! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) but could he run and jump. Gotta disagree about his movement, however. Like an egg-beater would be putting it mildly. Whenever he had to hack off for ch. or res, we always thought "why waste our time tacking him up???" It was almost a given that he would lose IF the judge was fair! Sometimes though, they "overlooked" his movment and gave it to him anyway.

Back in the good ole days. 95% of the emphasis was on the jumping style, not much attention given to movement, except for steadiness of pace, etc.

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 12, 2003, 05:07 PM
OK, I promised a few more pictures that I found. This is Sign the Card, who was virtually unbeatable. REally. If she isn't still, I think at the time she was the biggest winner EVER, and she only went to the nice shows. And Jane Womble was (still is?) one of the best hunter riders to ever grace the show ring.

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 12, 2003, 05:09 PM
Another of Jane's horses, Perfect Stranger, who was also a huge winner.

Laurie

lauriep
Oct. 12, 2003, 05:11 PM
Another that Jane rode for Jimmy Lee/Belcort Farm, Magic Parade. Don't know anything about him.

Laurie

frisbee32
Oct. 12, 2003, 05:13 PM
Va2Ga- check your private topics.

lauriep
Oct. 12, 2003, 05:14 PM
Finally, Li-Ke, who Patty Heuckeroth rode to GREAT success in the regulars, while his owner, Cornelia Guest (pictured) rode him in the juniors. Betty Oare rode him as a green conformation horse, too.

Laurie

Flashy Gray
Oct. 13, 2003, 09:13 AM
lauriep, you're my hero this morning for scanning the pic of Sign the Card from MCS's "The Hunter."

Spectacular. Always liked the Li-Ke photo too, he was the spittin' image of his sire Battlewick.

What an awesome book and amazing horses. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

lauriep
Oct. 13, 2003, 09:22 AM
Thanks, FG!

I can't wait to get the pics from Parminch! And I will be seeing Riot Free's "mom" this Thursday, so will get some pics of him, too. Do ya think the young 'uns appreciate these great old hunters? Too bad they can't see videos of the to really see how a bold, brilliant hunter round looks!

Does anyone remember what year video cameras became common at horse shows? Or when videographers came on the scene?

Laurie

b328
Oct. 13, 2003, 09:41 AM
Just curious, how do you pronounce Li-Ke? I am a big fan of Patty Heuckeroth after seeing her do clinics and ride horses at our barn, so I like to pick up information about her past successes. Also, the horse I currently lease came from her originally, so it makes me even more interested.I have seen some videos of her riding my lease horse, and I wish I could ride the way she does.

butkrustag
Oct. 13, 2003, 09:52 AM
lauriep where did you get all those great pictures??

I wish they still had huge outdoor courses and fenses like those!

brokenarrowdj
Oct. 13, 2003, 10:33 AM
Another couple of current/recent Hunters at the top of their game:

Fleetford (Patty Heuckroth) whose real registered name was Fleetford Gus-ug!

and

The Party's Over (Debbie Muhlig)

Kimba
Oct. 13, 2003, 11:00 AM
Kimberling was a really nice hunter - though i am not sure which years it showed with Raymond Burr

Cowboy wisdom: "Don't squat with your spurs on."

Kimba
Oct. 13, 2003, 11:09 AM
how about:

Russian Caviar
Rule the Blues
Front N Center
Indiscretion (who was shown for a while as Big Dime)

i'm biased though b/c they were my moms http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cowboy wisdom: "Don't squat with your spurs on."

Texan By The Grace Of God
Oct. 14, 2003, 06:02 AM
Ive decided to use

Pony Dot com
Yes i Can
Rox Dene
/hillcrest /better than Blue
Newsworthy
Snowgoose
Dresden
Strapless
Geste
In Disguise
Ozcar

Also who were the other horses that got 100s?? thanks a ton

Please email me specific wins/things aboutthese horses/ponies..i really need more horses! thanks

barnesg@oldfieldsschool.org

"It is the difficult horses that have the most to give you."

G.A. Barnes

[This message was edited by Texan By The Grace Of God on Oct. 14, 2003 at 09:13 AM.]

Ketch
Oct. 14, 2003, 07:20 AM
If you are going to use Osczar, you should probably spell his name right! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Texan By The Grace Of God
Oct. 14, 2003, 09:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Betty Ford:
If you are going to use Osczar, you should probably spell his name right! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
sorry

"It is the difficult horses that have the most to give you."

G.A. Barnes

buryinghill2
Oct. 14, 2003, 09:58 AM
Everytime I see that picture of Raymond, I am shocked at how much Bruce looks like him.
I like to think that Ray and Em are together again, picking the best young horses!

Calla
Oct. 15, 2003, 11:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Do ya think the young 'uns appreciate these great old hunters? Too bad they can't see videos of the to really see how a bold, brilliant hunter round looks! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lauriep! I'm 15 and you have no idea how much I admire the old hunters and their riders. They have so much presence and elegance!

Jane
Oct. 15, 2003, 12:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Texan By The Grace

Also who were the other horses that got 100s?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Justified got a 100 a few years ago, can't remember where though.......

Lauriep, thanks for sharing those pics of the "old" hunters! I often wish someone would put together a nice book on all the top hunters, with bios and interviews with their owner/rider.


"Sometimes it's hard to walk in a single woman's shoes. That's why we need really special ones now and then, to make the walk a little more fun" --- Carrie Bradshaw

KJoy
Oct. 15, 2003, 12:22 PM
Justified, In Sync, and In Disguise also got 100s.

Jane
Oct. 15, 2003, 12:31 PM
I heard about In Disguise's score at the CC, wish I was there to see it.... he looked pretty near perfect the other times I've seen him go too.

In Sync is one of my current favs....where and when did he receive the 100?



"Sometimes it's hard to walk in a single woman's shoes. That's why we need really special ones now and then, to make the walk a little more fun" --- Carrie Bradshaw

Texan By The Grace Of God
Oct. 15, 2003, 01:13 PM
a few weeks ago at kentucky i believe

"It is the difficult horses that have the most to give you."

G.A. Barnes

Kate&King
Oct. 15, 2003, 01:20 PM
What about Bali Core (I have NO idea if that's how you spell it).

K&K

Janet
Oct. 15, 2003, 01:41 PM
Do you mean Bally Cor? But she was an (olympic gold medal winning) eventer, not a show hunter.

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

abbytude83
Oct. 15, 2003, 03:41 PM
Remember the Laughter (pony), Diplomacy, Rox Dene, Osczar, Strapless, Dreamboat (pony)

Abby and Chuck/Angel/Prince
"The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the Lord."

HorseeHunter
Oct. 15, 2003, 05:09 PM
remember the laughter is my fav by far!

hmm if i remeber correctly, whatever happened to lands end happy times, wasnt that one wellknoown or am i just making this up hahaha http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif...

Kimba
Oct. 15, 2003, 05:42 PM
i second and third DREAMBOAT

Cowboy wisdom: "Don't squat with your spurs on."

crystalacresponies
Oct. 15, 2003, 08:02 PM
Night Life
Calling Card
Watership Down
Just For Fun
Two For One
Scot To Do
Private Collection
Wintarra Ring
Lestat
Embassy Row
Rain Forest
Nevertheless
Ashford Castle
Smoking Gun

OK- I think I'm done reliving my childhood now! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

"Crystal Acres"
www.crystalacresponies.com (http://www.crystalacresponies.com)

Jane
Oct. 15, 2003, 08:35 PM
Thanks, crystalacresponies!

Oh yes, how could we forget Ashford Castle and Nevertheless?

Some of the other great hunters from that period -- Monday Morning, Maestro, Nightscape, Geste....and my "personal" favorite, Spode. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Lestat....Allison Firestone's junior hunter, right?

crystalacresponies
Oct. 16, 2003, 08:24 PM
Yep http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif
Guess I just dated myself http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Ashford Castle could make one drool. What??!!??
No drooling Icon?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"Crystal Acres"
www.crystalacresponies.com (http://www.crystalacresponies.com)

IronMan
Oct. 17, 2003, 05:27 AM
Murmansk and Addington http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

amble
Oct. 17, 2003, 06:51 AM
ponies:
Shenandoah Flintstone
Shenandoah Firestone
Shenandoah Gemstone
Shenandoah Opal
Dresden
Midgit

Horses:
Wardress
Ruxton
Henry The Hawk
Sign the Card
Holy Smoke
Roxdene

www.amblesidefarm.com (http://www.amblesidefarm.com)
Home to Elite Earl Grey and
Pony Hunter Prospects

buryinghill1
Oct. 28, 2003, 12:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buryinghill2:
Touch the Sun
Henry the Hawk
Russian Caviar
Dillon<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Funny. I thought I would be the only one to post T.T.S. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif TTS was pretty flawless.
I confess, I liked only the horse though...
Henry The Hawk... another phenom, BH2.
And of course, Dilly... He could do the hunters (well) and the equitation. What an amazing guy.
Now of course back in those days there was an awful lot of bamboo in the schooling area, so that was a plus http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Whomever mentioned Murmansk - thanks. I loved that one too!!
Many of the hunters previously mentioned (especially Dave K's) wouldn't need scores. The judges these days would be speechless and scoreless after watching some of "the great ones..." http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Their cards would be stained with tears of joy. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif