Jingles for my Twin please, 6/6 RIP little Pooh and Piglet 6/13

[pintofoal]

I had a feeling this was going to happen, thank God I didn't sleep through it--I have been so sleep deprived. My poor mare Lauren has been HUGE and keeping me on foal watch for the past two weeks (making me totally miss Decoupages foaling!) I swear if your mare is BIG and looks like she's going to foal every night for days on end be ready for twins. This is the third set I've had born here over the years and it was the same scenario each time.

I have two lovely colts by Blonder Hans born between 2:30 and 3:00 am this morning, one is a bay the other smaller/weaker one a buckskin. They are both well conformed, pretty good size and can get up on their own. I am worried about the buckskin so jingles that we will beat the odds and have two healthy babies. Will keep you all updated!

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

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[pintofoal]

I had a feeling this was going to happen, thank God I didn't sleep through it--I have been so sleep deprived. My poor mare Lauren has been HUGE and keeping me on foal watch for the past two weeks (making me totally miss Decoupages foaling!) I swear if your mare is BIG and looks like she's going to foal every night for days on end be ready for twins. This is the third set I've had born here over the years and it was the same scenario each time.

I have two lovely colts by Blonder Hans born between 2:30 and 3:00 am this morning, one is a bay the other smaller/weaker one a buckskin. They are both well conformed, pretty good size and can get up on their own. I am worried about the buckskin so jingles that we will beat the odds and have two healthy babies. Will keep you all updated!

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

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[Rockin']

Our best wishes and thoughts are sent to you from here in NZ.Hope your babies and Mum pull through alright! <<<<<Jingles>>>

[aurum]

Good luck Liz, they just MUST make it after all these desasters on this forum!!!

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Top class and exceptional colored German Warmblood Sporthorses

[HFSH]

Good luck Liz! Jingling for you. I'd love to see photos of the little cuties.

In Memory of Remarkable (http://www.hopefulfarm.com/Indy.html)

[dray]

Liz,

Jingles on the way!!!

[Sandbarhorse]

Jingling and jangling! Come on boys!!

[Draygonfyne]

Jingling away in Ontario Liz....keep us updated!

My kingdom for a horse
CHECK OUT MY WEBSITE:
www.draygonfynedesign.ca (http://www.draygonfynedesign.ca)

[carosello]

Jingling like mad for your boys!

[FairWeather]

Liz--positive thoughts coming your way. I really hope they pull through this.

__________________________
A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men...
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[flshgordon]

jingling like mad and saying lots of prayers for your boys. We could really use some happy news around here!!!

[atom]

Hi Liz,

we wish good luck for you and your boys !!!

Mandy
home of "Atom"
www.kinsky.de (http://www.kinsky.de)

[crestline]

Thinking happy thoughts for having two fantasic and healthy foals!!! Just keep on that thought that you are already beating the odds with both of them alive and at term....Jingles....

Andrea Clibborn-Anderson
www.crestlinefarm.com (http://www.crestlinefarm.com)
Home of Pinto Dutch Warmblood Palladio and Oldenburg stallion Grand Memory

[Silly Mommy]

Oh my!

Having lost a few sets of twins, I understand your angst. Everything up north is crossed for the wee one! It is good that they can both stand by themselves though...

Reality is a subset of life and can be disregarded as an insignificant bit of trivia.

http://groups.msn.com/WolfdenFarm/shoebox.msnw

[LEP Enterprises, LLC]

Good luck Liz!
/jingle jingle

________________________
*London*
*Hannah Bay*
*Tatabra Kirsche*
*Gryphon Bay*

[Sonesta]

Hang in there, Liz. Jingling away, here.

Sonesta Farms (http://www.sonestafarms.com) Hanoverian, Knabstrupper & Arabian Sport Horses

"Find something you love and call it work."

[pintofoal]

So far so good, they have both nursed, though the buckskin or maybe he's a smokey black--can't tell haven't had any of either before is having a harder time. He will probably have to be tubed. Vet due here any minute to check IGG levels. Here is a photo of my boys...

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[pintofoal]

and another nursing--the buckskin is not latching on well but I have heard him swallow a few times.

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[LEP Enterprises, LLC]

oh LIZ - they are SO CUTE!

I hope they pull through for you! I think its a good sign that they are standing and at least trying to nurse.

________________________
*London*
*Hannah Bay*
*Tatabra Kirsche*
*Gryphon Bay*

[Quinn]

They actually look exceptional considering they are twins. Keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for all the best. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"If you are going through hell, keep going." ~Churchill~

[Esprit]

Liz, they are so beautiful. Bless these little ones. We're all pulling for them - oh I hope this is will be the good news turnaround that we all need this breeding season. Jingles!

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[pintofoal]

Also did I mention that this mare was a maiden mare, FIRST FOALS, I guess lucky for her that she probably thinks this in the norm! poor girl! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I also did have this mare sonogrammed

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Saddith]

They are soooo cute - they were both in there???? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Your mare must have been HUGE!! But they look strong and lovely, and the mare seems very unconcerned, which is a good thing.

Best of luck with them - double trouble! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ladybug Hill]

Aren't they PRECIOUS!

It is amazing to me that both of these guys came out of this mare. How in the world is there room for all those legs!

I hope that they both do well. Hopefully, with a little assistance they will do fine. Won't you have a pretty picture out in the pasture in a couple of weeks. I hope that you will post pictures frequently.

AND absolutely good luck to you and the boys!

Chris

Ladybug Hill--Hunters and Ponies
Specializing in Palomino TBs

ladybughillfarm.vaix.net (http://ladybughillfarm.vaix.net)

[arnika]

Liz, I just checked on the board and saw your post. Jingling curb chains like mad for both of them! They really DO look very good considering they're twins. So stressful but worth it in the end I think http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif.

[ise@ssl]

hey Liz - congratulations. Himalaya's dam - the late Party Doll had full term twins before he was born. Both about the same difference in size as yours (one filly,one colt) They both survived and went to be 16H+. Though the mare ended up with a HUGE udder after that and we always laughed that the three foals produced after that were all HUGE boys!! Including Himalaya (by your Art Deco) and his full brother Kilimanjaro who was 11.3H at birth!

[Iron Gate Farm]

Oh Liz!! They are too cute!! Jingles here for them to make a full recovery! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hard Scrabble Farm, Home Of:
~*Kiss From A Rose*~ (AKA Rosey)
~*Bailey's Irish Mist*~ (AKA Bailey)

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[Louise]

They are both just adorable. Jingles coming from my direction too!!

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[talloaks]

Liz, you have the CUTEST little boys!!! Jingling like crazy for them....and .....sleep deprived you!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man." Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

www.talloaksfarm.net (http://www.talloaksfarm.net)

[Rhonda]

Jingling like mad! They are both adorable!

[Silly Mommy]

Those pics gave me that warm-fuzzy feeling! They are precious!!!

Reality is a subset of life and can be disregarded as an insignificant bit of trivia.

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[Hexel]

Wow they are gorgeous, I'm amazed they both fit in Mommy. Jingling like crazy here.

[Redmare]

Whow, you have had quite the foaling season with all of these supprises. They both look good to me....heres hoping it stays that way.

Good luck!!!!!

I'll get you my pretty....and your little dog too...ehheheheheheh

[Nikita]

Well that is the healthiest looking set of twins I've ever seen! They are just gorgeous. Jingling like crazy that the vet agrees with me about how healthy they are. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I've almost stopped reading this board because of all the sad news every day. Please let this be some wonderful news for a change.

In dog years I'd be dead.

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Liz, Jingles to your new boys! I can't believe the mare had twins! I hope they are ok, keep us posted. Congrats!

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[can't re-]

Wow, Liz!!!
Lots of good thoughts and jingles for the Dynamic Duo.

[onetempies]

Jingling here too for you & the boys! They look really good though for being twins! Will keep everything crossed for you!

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It's a bay COLT! 5-6-03 by Lacoste.

[Gayla]

They are so beautiful. What a trooper of a mare!! To carry all of that and deliver it healthy!! WOW. I am going to go ahead and celebrate because I think things are gonna turn out good. Hurray for double delight!!

[Jeni]

They both look good! You and your mare are lucky! I am jingling hard for all of you.

Proud To Be A Canadian Sport Horse Owner

[Policy of Truth]

Liz, they are so cute!

The color on the small one is exactly what my horse Solo looked like at birth...he ended up as a sooty smutty buckskin....which is a really cool color, just very long!

I'll keep the boys, mare and you in my prayers. We seriously need some happy endings over here http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

"You smell like dead bunnies"
~ Ralph, The Simpsons

[fullmoon fever]

*jingling* for you all.

The twins look absolutely wonderful. The "odd" coloured one could turn out to be grulla, which is a very nice colour.

Hope everything turns out well for you. As others have mentioned, just the fact that they can stand and nurse on their own gives you a fabulous head start.

Founder of the Olde Farte Clique

[square halt]

Oh, Liz, they are so endearing. Your mare is so wonderful, too. It is way past time for some miracles around this board. I have agonized with everyone, and hope that these beautiful boys pull through.

[Faiths CremelloWB]

Wow http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif ... They are precious & so very cute... Jingling for the boys and momma. Waiting for an update as to what the vet thought..

Was it the same vet that missed HH pregnancy http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif that checked her??

Jingle Jingle Jingle Jingle !!!

<<Breeder of Coloured Warmblood Sporthorses>>

http://www.blazingcoloursfarm.com

[HFSH]

My mare would pass out and die if she had TWO babies to take care of! Wow, how do you feed a mare that has two foals nursing? free choice everything?!

In Memory of Remarkable (http://www.hopefulfarm.com/Indy.html)

[spirit]

Jingle, jingle, jingle!!!

The are darlings. I can't imagine those two little bodies tucked up inside that mare! They look strong in the photos, so hopefully everything works out!

[JB]

Liz they look so GOOD for twins! I cannot fathom them both fitting in that poor mare! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Fingers and toes crossed for them both!

The "buckskin" couldn't be grulla since Blonder Hans isn't a dun.

[flshgordon]

WOW you are so blessed!!! They are beautiful and so healthy looking! We will definitely need regular updates on their condition---WITH PICTURES of course http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Maiden mare---that would explain the confused look on her face--you mean I have to keep BOTH of these things under control?????? HELP!!!

[pintofoal]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif things are not looking good for the buckskin--going downhill quickly. His IGG looked great, but he is becoming more and more listliss and I think he is starting to have small seizers. I have to get back down to the barn came up to get some food and use bathroom

Please Jingle extra hard so the little guy.

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[talloaks]

Oh Liz!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Jingling as hard as I can for your litle guy!! Lots of prayers too!!

"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man." Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

www.talloaksfarm.net (http://www.talloaksfarm.net)

[wanderlust]

Jingling for the adorable little buckskin...

[Lisamarie8]

Oh no!

Liz fingers crossed and good thoughts coming your way!

--- My most endearing quality lies in my willingness to humiliate myself

[Arabbreeder]

Jingles, many thoughts and prayers for your twin foals and for you to get sleep and rest and HELP with all of this!

www.blackvistaarabians.com (http://www.blackvistaarabians.com)

[onetempies]

OH NO! Praying, jingling, crossing... doing everything possible here! Positive vibes for that boy! Sure hope he pulls through! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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It's a bay COLT! 5-6-03 by Lacoste..

[Carlin]

Prayers and jingles for your little guy Liz. I hope everything works out!

[dray]

Liz,
Prayin hard for that little guy and for you.
Much love,
Donna

[Peveril]

Lots of jingles for you, Mom and the boys.

[CentralCoast]

Oh nooooo... not the little guy! Jingles and prayers for all of you.

[baycollie]

Lot's of jingles coming your way from me and my menagerie. They are both very adorable in the pictures. I hope everything works out for them.

[Dolce Vita]

Congrats on the boys, they're both adorable.

I'm jingling for the buckskin, good luck!

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Chelsea (http://community.webshots.com/user/tothestars)

Just ease your mind, have a banana or two
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[domino]

jingle, jingle, they are very cute!!!!!!!!

[Sublime]

Jingle, jingle! Good luck they are both adorable and I hope all goes well.

~*~Sublime~*~

http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/connemara/Main.html

"One good thing about music: when it hits you, you feel no pain."-Bob Marley

[Sambucca]

Jingling for both the boys but a few extra for the little buckskin. And throwing in a few prayers as well.

[Home Again Farm]

I hope your pretty little buckskin makes it! Jingling like mad here for you!

Mary Lou

http://www.homeagainfarm.com

[Hidden Treasure]

Extra jingles for the little guy. Can you bottle feed him to get his strength up?

[Portia]

Jingling and prayers for both babies, with extras for the little guy!

[sketcher]

Boy, you've had a few suprises this year! Good luck with the twins, I hope the buckskin is doing better.

[sprucie]

Jingle jingle jingle. Poor mare! I can't believe that BOTH of those babies were inside her. I hope the buckskin colt makes it, that's one of my favorite colors.

Jodie LaForge
Spruce Hill Farm
http://www.sprucehillfarm.net

[Little Indian]

jingles!!

[Fred]

jingling from Canada for your little babies!!
and sending all my best wishes and hopes.

[Daydream Believer]

Wow, just got on the board for the first time today and such excitement. Jingling for your little guy here too. Hang in there!

"Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you. Give me a pig. He just looks you in the eye and treats you as an equal" Winston Churchill
"No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle..." Winston Churchill

[Spot]

Oh Liz - jingling as hard as I can for the little guy!
How is he doing now? Hopefully better?

They are both adorable!

"Spot"

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Liz, i am still jingling for the Buckskin! I have my fingers and toes crossed for him. I pray that things work out. They are too cute! Please keep us up to date.

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[crestline]

Liz-
Love the pics....I agree with everyone else...those are some pretty amazing looking twins! Can't believe the size of them!

Andrea Clibborn-Anderson
www.crestlinefarm.com (http://www.crestlinefarm.com)
Home of Pinto Dutch Warmblood Palladio and Oldenburg stallion Grand Memory

[sonata]

Good luck. They are just beautiful. Keep us posted and pictures please.

[YoungFilly]

Man I sure hope they both do well, the really are very cute! Expecially the smokey one!

[pintofoal]

We are off to the horse hospital http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[JB]

Oh Liz!!! I will send all my best vibes your way!

[onetempies]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Still jingling here! Praying that the little guy makes it!

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It's a bay COLT! 5-6-03 by Lacoste.

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

<----Fingers crossed

Liz, we are all pulling for him and jingling for him. Good luck, I honestly hope he pulls through, I really do. I have gotten kind of attached to the little fella!

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[talloaks]

Oh My!! Jingling and praying for the little one and you too!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man." Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

www.talloaksfarm.net (http://www.talloaksfarm.net)

[Cinda]

Jingle Jingle. Hopes and Prays with you. I hope they will all be ok!

Good Luck
Cinda

[Palomino Leopard WB]

EXTRA JINGLES
Keeping my fingers crossed as well that all will be okay.

[Draygonfyne]

jingling away for the buckskin......

My kingdom for a horse
CHECK OUT MY WEBSITE:
www.draygonfynedesign.ca (http://www.draygonfynedesign.ca)

[Little Indian]

more jingles!!!

[BarnBrat]

Jingling and praying for your guys here!

Mares Rule!

[crystalacresponies]

Jingling like crazy in Pine Bush!!!

Come on...after all the heartache this year we all deserve some good news!

"Crystal Acres"
Home of Major Fox, Tribute In Light, All Dressed Up, and Foxen the Pony Princess!
www.underthepinesfarm.com (http://www.underthepinesfarm.com)

[arnika]

Oh Liz, I'm so sorry.......will keep jingling and praying through tonight for him. It's so hard when they are new and small. I'll check back in the morning in the hopes of a happier update.

[mwalshe]

Oh no! He looked so perfect in the pictures like a totally normal foal, I hope he pulls through..

[Tin]

sending my love to this new little guy! They both look great so I hope he hangs in there http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

~ Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once ~

[lotsospots]

jingle jingle jingle - hope the little guy makes it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Big hugs from BC.

If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun.

[sid]

Liz, sending all my good thoughts and prayers. They really look remarkable and I'll keep my fingers crossed that they'll all pull through in good shape.

Susan Doner, Little Bull Run Farm. Standing Boleem, Argosy and King's Camelot. www.littlebullrun.com (http://www.littlebullrun.com)

[ticofuzzy]

Liz, I pray that your buckskin foal made it through the night! You and your foals are in my thoughts.

www.foxwoodhanoverians.com (http://www.foxwoodhanoverians.com)

[Louise]

Jingling, jingling and hoping, hoping that the little buckskin made it through the night.

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This too, shall pass.

[pintofoal]

Well, as far as I know he made it through the night--no news is good news right? His prognosis at Marion DuPont seems pretty good, though they didn't make any promises and these little guy can have big problems FAST. He went down hill so quickly yesterday, from being able to stand nurse, nicker and sort of running around the stall to being unable to move and being practically comatose. His mother and brother are here at home and doing well though we did have some scares with them as well and are still keeping close watch on them. If the coltie pulls through he has a good chance of being totally "normal" and healthy, if this had not been the case I would have made the choice to put him down. His hocks (which they x-rayed to see how "mature" they where) are fully developed, if they had not been his prognosis would have been poor.

We have nick named the little fellow "Pooh" for Winne the Pooh, since is mothers nick name is "Tigger" and his brother is "Piglet" (very fitting, since he pigged up the placenta and is a milk hog)

A cute side note, everyone at the horse hospital was oohing and ahhhing over his coloring, he is cute as a button and looks like a stuffed toy.

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

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[Esprit]

Hoping for good news this morning, I wish you the best Liz and saying a prayer for Tigger, Piglet and of course our little Pooh...oh I hope he pulls through.

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[pintofoal]

humm was trying to add another photo of the boys, wouldn't let me above so will try on this post

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[renee]

Liz
Jingles from michigan for your foal, and hoping he can come home soon. they are soooo adorable.

[shea'smom]

So glad to hear somewhat good news this morning! They are both adorable. I'll be hoping for the best!
Kathi

[Fairview Horse Center]

Come on little Pooh! We need something special after the last few months.

Darlyn
http://www.fairviewhorsecenter.com

Are We Having Fun Yet?

[treasmare]

Oh Liz....oh my....been offline for a few days and returned to yet more sad news. He is absolutly beautiful!!! I hope all is well this morning and will continue to be good. I add my jingles to the chorus and my prayers too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Liz, Pooh is adorable! I hope he pulls through, I have been keeping an eye on your posts for updates! He is too cute!

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[pintofoal]

No matter how this turns out I really want to thank some SUPER friends, horsemen and of course all of you for your good thoughts and jingles.

Lauren Dearlove, whom many probably know in this area--she's an excellent handler, horsewoman, breeder, etc. Is the owner of "Tigger" and she and her family have been a tremendous help. Yesterday after Lauren had what I'm sure is a long hard day showing at Morven park breed show, came zooming right over here and took over, which I REALLY needed, I was dead at that point. Not only did she help out tremendously but did it with a smile on her face. Then both she and her father trailered the little guy over to the hospital for me, Lauren stayed in the back with the foal and let me take a break up front! We didn't get back here until way after 11PM and Lauren is off at the show again today. There are so few people nowadays that are SO generous of time, energy and spirit. I also want to thank Helen my "barn girl" she too was off at the show helping some other clients and came over several times yesterday to help and then spent the night to help me monitor Tigger and Piglet, she too had to wake at dawn to return to the show. There where/are many others who help out through at the past few days, too many to mention. I really love these guys--they are so great THANKS!!!!!!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

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[Faiths CremelloWB]

Still jingling here for poor pooh!!!!http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Really hope all goes well and he gets to come home to be with Piglet and Tiger!!

<<Breeder of Coloured Warmblood Sporthorses>>

http://www.blazingcoloursfarm.com

[Arabbreeder]

Liz, I am so thankful that there is so much support for people and their foals and mares in times of need such as this! It sounds like you are getting some help, now I am jingling not only for little Pooh but that you can get some relief and rest and I desperately hope little Pooh beats all the odds and makes a quick and full recovery from his latest set back! It will give everyone much hope and relief to have a happy ending!!

www.blackvistaarabians.com (http://www.blackvistaarabians.com)

[Little Indian]

some more jingles for another day.

"Cricket"
Rest In Peace
1977-May 30, 2003

[Sublime]

More jingles!!!

~*~Sublime~*~

http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/connemara/Main.html

"One good thing about music: when it hits you, you feel no pain."-Bob Marley

[2Dogs]

Jingling crazy here in NC for Pooh!! Hang tough little one!

From Mudsville, USA

[onetempies]

That's wonderful that you're getting the help that you need so much! What a wonderful group you've got there! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Still jingling for Pooh as well as Tigger & Piglet! Thanks for keeping us updated!

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It's a bay COLT! 5-6-03 by Lacoste.

[Galileo1998]

Jingles for the beautiful boy!!

[Jeni]

I am jingling hard for all of you, Pooh, Tigger, and Piglet. I have a good feeling for you all.

My brood mare Claudia is jingling for all of you too! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Proud To Be A Canadian Sport Horse Owner

[MsRidiculous]

Liz, I have a "Piglet" too! Jingles for Pooh. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Piglet, meet Piglet!

-Amanda

www.risingstarfarm.net (http://www.risingstarfarm.net)

[luckyduck]

Oh Liz,
I remember being here with Bel-Air's Twins two years ago about the same time.
Please remember that both Belle and Beau grew up to be heathly NOMRAL warmblood babies (even though Beau died a few months ago from something unrealted to his "twin" issue.
Keep your chin up and rest up!

[jilltx]

My thoughts are with ALL of you! They are both lovely foals and I am still in awe that you could get TWO fine young men out of one mare (what a trooped she must be!!). Try to get some rest (ha ha ha).

:-)

[fullmoon fever]

I've been afraid to check this thread, but I'm still jingling. Never lose hope.

Founder of the Olde Farte Clique

[JB]

Liz, I desperately hope this hour still brings good news!

[Esprit]

Any news Liz? I can only imagine how exhausted you are, but we're hoping for the best for all of you.

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[pintofoal]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Unfortunately the news is getting worse--we are off to the horse hospital again, this time taking piglet he is starting to go down hill and has raging projectile diarrhea. We want to get him there before he gets bad. Pooh is taking a turn for the worse his blood pressure is down. Tigger is doing well she is a saint and the sweetest mare ever, I hope she doesn't lose both her foals. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Esprit]

All we can do is pray, hope and jingle. Poor Tigger having her foals taken away too. You've been a trooper Liz - hang in there...

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[onetempies]

Continued jingles, prayers, and positive vibes that both of the boys make it through this!

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Draygonfyne]

Still jingling like mad......hugs to you and Tigger Liz.

My kingdom for a horse
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[pintofoal]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Poor Tigger having her foals taken away too <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tigger is coming along this time to stay with Piglet--I doubt however that she will be put anywhere near Pooh, he is pretty much out of it anyway and it would just upset the mare.

I'm out of here, wish us luck and thanks for the prays and jingles.

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Louise]

Oh Liz!
(((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))]
and many, many

jingles

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This too, shall pass.

[Policy of Truth]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

"You smell like dead bunnies"
~ Ralph, The Simpsons

Member of Hot TB Mare Clique

[All points]

lots of jingles and hugs, for you, your beautiful babies, and your mare. {{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}

[Fred]

and from me too.......sweet little babies.

[Spot]

Oh God Liz - it isnt fair - they are such sweet looking little guys.

{{HUGS}} to you and to Miss Tigger and please let us all know how you make out

"Spot"

[Lesley Feakins]

Oh gosh Liz...I do hope they pull through. My thoughts are with you, Tiger, piglet & pooh.
Jingles..

Lesley Feakins
www.trevelyanfarm.com (http://www.trevelyanfarm.com)
Breeders of New Forest Sport Ponies

[LEP Enterprises, LLC]

oh that is such heartbreaking news...I really hope they pull through. Now that I've seen pictures of them I just think they are too precious to lose.

________________________
*London*
*Hannah Bay*
*Tatabra Kirsche*
*Gryphon Bay*

[Little Indian]

more jingles from the west coast

[Dolce Vita]

More jingles from me...

- - - - - -
Chelsea (http://community.webshots.com/user/tothestars)

Just ease your mind, have a banana or two
- - - - - -

[Nikita]

They just have to be ok. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Tigger, Piglet and Pooh, stay strong and get healthy. We all loff you guys.

{{{{{jingles}}}}}

[talloaks]

Lots of jingles and prayers for good health and strength for all of you, Liz, Pooh, Piglet and Tigger. Leave them all with the good medical staff and get some rest Liz, you need it so much!! Think Sleep, sleep, sleep and let your worries fly away for the night!! Better news in the morning!!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man." Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

www.talloaksfarm.net (http://www.talloaksfarm.net)

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Oh gosh, I dearly hope they hang in there. I am praying for all of you and jingling away! I am so sorry, you must be emotionally and physically exhausted. Fingers are still crossed!

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[Cinda]

More jingles!!!
I hope they pull though!
Best of luck

[milynda milam]

Liz, we are really thinking of you and the little ones down here...just hard to know what to say with the steady stream of bad news on this board...

[YoungFilly]

oooohhh This is horrible. They are both so beautiful. Good luck, my best thoughts are with you....

[race_run_jump]

Best wishes, Liz - hope they do ok! I'm finally out of school - yay no more teaching this summer! and could help out if you need it - send me an email - have pitchfork, will travel!!

[near miss]

jingles for pooh, piglet and mom!!! Big hugs too!!!

www.equinewellnessmassage.com (http://www.equinewellnessmassage.com)

[Adelita]

Jingles and prayers for your babies....

&gt;^.,.^&lt;
~~Linda

*~Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake.*~

[dray]

Liz,

God keep you through all of this.

Donna

[*In Your Dreams*]

Praying and Jingling for your babies.

Andrea
*Funny Cide Clique*
Destruction leads to a very rough road But it also breeds creation -Red Hot Chili Peppers

[pintofoal]

Well, no news on either as of this morning. We arrived with Piglet and tigger yesterday evening, they immediately put them in isolation, which is freaking me out. They are very concerned about somesort of contagious something or other because of the diarrhea. Now yesterday I was swapping stalls, messing with Piglet and Tigger messing with my other horses!!! They told us to totally strip down the trailer, and bleach out/disifect everything in it and at the farm. The trailer we took care of but everything else...well a little too late, I wish I was thinking more clearly yesterday, I would have been more careful. At first they wanted us to bring Tigger home--I said NO WAY, I am not separating this mare from another foal, so they did take her too.

I wish I had better news but of yet I don't. The only good news is I did sleep last night actually it was more like a coma...ahhhh it was good, two or three more nights like that and I might feel semi normal again.

Will call hospital in a few, hopefully will get to talk to someone who will tell me something, usually that's not the case http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

Again thanks for all the good thoughts it does help to know that you all are pulling for them

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[baycollie]

Thanks for updating at such a horrible time for you. I am sending extra jingles and positive thoughts your way.

[frugalannie]

Liz, we have every finger crossed, and are sending you every good thought we can. Glad to hear you got some rest. Hang in there and take care of yourself.

[ise@ssl]

Liz - get one of those bottles that hooks on a hose for putting fertilizer around the grass, plants, etc. Put bleach in it and just cover all the surfaces in your barn. It will come out in a nice mist. We've done this just as a general cleaning and it works great and is fast and easy to do. Plus you don't have to haul buckets, brushes, etc.

[Esprit]

Liz it might not be too late to disinfect the barn - with a pressure washer you could hose it down with bleach and a blast from the washer in no time. Your horses at home will have a higher tolerance (more developed immune system) so it's not too late. Good thing that you got some much needed sleep even though you need more of it I'm sure.

Hang in there the best you can, knowing that you've done absolutely everything you can - it's now in the hospital's and fates hands.

We're all still jingling and praying - that won't stop. All the very best.

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[MeanderCreek]

We've gone through the isolation for diarrhea/contagious panic attack before with foals that went to the hospital.

Knock on wood, its never been THAT serious - the hospitals just take it VERY seriously because it could shut them down if they don't.

Best wishes for the little guys and Mama to come home soon safe and sound.

www.meandercreekstable.com (http://www.meandercreekstable.com)

[treasmare]

Stay strong and get rested when ever you can. My thoughts are with you and I'm jingling like mad for your sweet little babies. Got a vet call in myself for the diarrhea thing with my 3 week old orphan. Its such a big worry. Hope it all goes well Liz.

[suecoo]

Oh Liz I'm so sorry. Jingling madly for you all! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Life without horses is possible, but pointless......

[artisticgold]

Oh, Liz,

I'm sitting here jingling, praying and hoping like mad that those little guys will be ok. Try to take care of yourself throughout this, too...Hope to hear some good news soon!

[Nikita]

Thanks for the update and so glad you got some rest. Nobody to worry about the kiddies if you make yourself sick. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hope today is a complete turnaround and both babies are healthy. Still jingling and saying a few prayers for the Tigger clan.

[Sonesta]

You keep hanging in there, Liz. It's good news that the boys are still hanging in, too.!

Sonesta Farms (http://www.sonestafarms.com) Hanoverian, Knabstrupper & Arabian Sport Horses

"Find something you love and call it work."

[lorik]

Oh Liz, I hope that all three of them make it home from the horsey hospital soon and that you can watch them all running in the paddock. Jingle, Jingle...

[pintofoal]

OK the latest is good news on Piglet he is doing great and is pissed he can't nurse (no surprise--he is a piglet after all) He will have to stay in the hospital at lest over the weekend.

Pooh on the other hand is not doing well, I think I may have him put down. On top of everything else he is now septic which will up the already astronomical bill to twice the estimate, I just don't think I can financially swing keeping him going (I am going to throw in a shameless plug, I'm desperate...moderators can remove if they want.) I have drastically dropped stud fee prices on my website to help generate funds fast for this hospital bill. I will make the decision tonight when the culture comes back on what we are battling. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[JB]

Oh Liz, how wonderful that Piglet is doing well, but how heartbreaking that Pooh isn't! I do not envy you at all having to make that decision. God that stinks... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gifhttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Tin]

I'm so sorry, Pooh is precious and hope he can hang in there http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I iwsh I had a mare to breed for you....

~ Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once ~

[Esprit]

Good news for little Piglet. You'll make the right decision for little Pooh. Thinking of you - and if I had any more mares to breed I'd be in there! I'm already battling with my mare's Art Deco twins...one of them's got to give... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[Portia]

Oh Liz, still jingling for both of them, but you'll do the right thing, whatever it is.

[caryledee]

So sorry about Pooh Liz...I've been lurking, hoping to read good news on both of them. I can't imagine how heartbreaking it must be http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Liz, if I could afford to do it, I'd breed my mare again to one of your guys. I am sorry. Is there a possibility to start a fund for Pooh? Maybe people could donate some money for his treatment if there is a possiblity he could make it. I would be will to donate money, I don't have a lot to donate but maybe people would join in...

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[hansiska]

Liz, if he's at a research/teaching university, you may be able to sign him over to them and avoid putting him down. Basically, they take over ownership and medical decisions and take the case over as a teaching case. If the foal lives, he would be put up for adoption (there is generally a waiting list). My sister adopted a foal this way, and now he's a very happy horse!

Best of luck to you.

[pintofoal]

Thanks for the suggestions guys...I don't want to do a donation thing, I'd rather give folks a great deal on a stud fee and earn the money for their care, it's a very nice thought, but just doesn't seem right to me to even consider. Also the colt is currently at a university/vet school, that's what Marion DuPont is, but they have a lot of horses donated to them and usually they are used for disecting http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif + right now they are so filled up with horses and foals that I doubt they need any to teach on http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif seems like its a bad year not just for the board/forum but lots of folks. If Pooh truly has a fair to good chance of making it I will do what ever to see he has that chance, but if his diagnosis is fair to poor then I can't see doing it, not just because of the exspense but the poor little guy, how much can one foal take?

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[murph]

Liz, I will email you re your stallions. As you know from my other post our mare lost her baby this morning. We were going to breed her back to our stallion but if there is any way I can swing the finances perhaps we could rebreed to one of your lovely guys instead.

VERY sorry for the trouble you are having. Such tragedy and then the huge bills on top of that...been there, done that. As an aside, I had a full term foal a few years ago that was an odd presentation and very large, had to have the vet pull him out with chains. He looked OK for the first few hours and then went downhill in a hurrry. Was so out of it that we actually picked him up and put him in the back of my Jeep Cherokee and drove off to the local Vet College with him just laying in the back with a blanket on him. He too became septic and despite a huge effort and a huge bill, around 5K as I remember, he did die after about 5 days. It's such a very hard thing but septicaemia in a newborn I think is pretty tough to fight. I feel so badly for you and I guess I have a soft spot for your little buckskin guy since we just lost our little palomino girl...I am new to the dilute breeding so they just seem a little extra special to me!

Best wishes and check your email!

[dray]

Liz,

I hope everything is okay with all the ohter horses at your farm and that you continue to get some rest. Jingling for your entire tribe.
Much love,
Donna
Carson Farm
www.sportequine.com (http://www.sportequine.com)

[Esprit]

Liz, I've got a few friends that are sport horse breeders up here that are still looking for suitable stallions for this years breeding, and I've directed them to your website to take advantage of the weekend breeding deal. I'll also post a "weekend special" on the CSHA website for you". I hope this helps you out.

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[flshgordon]

Liz,

There is a tiny paint foal with a septic hock that has been at the vet hospital since the day I brought my mare in (almost 2 weeks ago). It has been up and down for the poor little guy but I keep praying he will make it and the ladies there are positive on his outlook. I'll be thinking of you this weekend when I visit my girls at the clinic and hope things will turn out in your favor.

[HFSH]

Still jingling for your foals Liz.

And I told my gelding Eeyore that he needs to jingle as well for Pooh and Piglet.

In Memory of Remarkable (http://www.hopefulfarm.com/Indy.html)

[Fred]

thinking of you, and your little guy. I wish there was something more I could do.
xo
Gail

www.afineromance.ca (http://www.afineromance.ca)

[GotSpots]

So sorry Liz. Ick.

I'll send your website to a group of friends and other riders and let them know about your special.

[rmj]

Liz--

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif
Jingles from Splash and me. I would like to help out, but I too don't have any mares open to breed to this year.

Shelli

http://groups.msn.com/ShelliandVern

[pintofoal]

First let me say before this next update the generosity of folks here and in the horse community is simply amazing. I have had offers from complete strangers to come help me on the farm, donate money, etc. As I have said before even if everything goes to hell in a handbag, this whole situation has warmed my heart to know that there are so many kind, generous and helpful people out there. Just as I was getting cynical in my old age, you all have renewed my faith, sometimes bad things happen for good reasons.

OK here is the latest, Pooh is still not making positive progress, I'm going to give him another 24 hours to show some sort of improvement and not go any further down hill. If there are no changes or things get worse--then vets are advising me to put him down and I will follow that advice. We could go to heroic measures, which has also been suggested but I don't think that is fair to the colt, nor can my business afford it. Financially we are well into the $5000 mark with both colts, if Pooh makes a recovery I am looking at over $11,000 which come hell or high water (which we seem to have both right now, with all this rain and the way I feel right now--OK a little cynicism is still lurking) I will swing it somehow, but I could also rackup a bill into the tens of thousands by trying to save a foal that will not make it, so I have to draw the line somewhere and make this painful decision, I think the 24 hour mark is the only way I can do it otherwise I will just keep hoping and hoping and days will go by and the bill will mount and the colt will suffer. I thought that after all these years of breeding I'd be a bit more hardened to these type of things, but I'm not. I hope this is the right way to do it, but I can't think of anything else. I'm sorry I don't have better news, I wish this could turn out as a positive post on this forum, when they where first born I thought maybe it would be, the miracle of healthy twins, but that usually is a true miracle, very rare indeed.

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Fred]

there is something more I can do!
I just decided to book my mare Cricket ( A Fine Romance's full sister) to Sempatico for 2004 - (she is already booked for this year).
Little Pooh just tugs at my heart! hang in there little guy. Jingling for you here in Canada.

xo Gail

www.afineromance.ca (http://www.afineromance.ca)

[Draygonfyne]

Liz, you are doing the right thing. You have gone far beyond what most are able and willing to do to try to save the life of your dear foals. I don't think anyone will judge you for having the love in your heart to know when enough is enough. That being said, we will continue jingling away in the hopes that this is the miracle we all need to hear about this year.......

My kingdom for a horse
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[DARKHORSE]

Jingles and prayers from AZ. We are thinking of you and keeping positive thoughts for Pooh. I hope the next 24 hours brings better news but I will add my opinion that you have to draw a line and you are doing the right thing. I have been in this or at least a similar situation. It is tough. I think most of us on this board have gone through a loss and know how much it hurts and how hard you have tried to make this work. As to being hardned after all the years of breeding...NO, I think it hurts just as much each time. Each time we try our best and hope for the best and then do what we know we have to do. And that is for the best. Please know we are thinking and praying with you and for you.
Camille Greer
Darkhorse Farm

[onetempies]

Poor guy... and many hugs to you, Liz for all that you're going through. Unfortunately sometimes we need to make these rough decisions for our animals. We all know you will do what is right and not put Pooh through anymore than he can handle. It's always so hard with the babies... but in our hearts we know when they have had enough when on this fine line as you are. Sure hope he pulls through though... he's such a cutie! I'm very glad to hear that Piglet is making progress though!

Still jingling here for you guys! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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It's a bay COLT! 5-6-03 by Lacoste.

[Daydream Believer]

Jingling like crazy for the little guys! Hang in there! I hope everything works out for you.

"Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you. Give me a pig. He just looks you in the eye and treats you as an equal" Winston Churchill
"No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle..." Winston Churchill

[pintofoal]

Little Pooh made the hard decision for me, he passed away this evening. His kidneys then heart gave out. Rest in peace little one http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[PaulaM]

I am so sorry to hear of your loss. He looked to be a truly special colt. Hopefully Piglet will be OK.

[Policy of Truth]

I'm so sorry for your loss, Liz http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

"You smell like dead bunnies"
~ Ralph, The Simpsons

Member of Hot TB Mare Clique

[Spot]

I am so sorry Liz

May the little fellow rest in peace after his short and hard struggle on earth http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

How is little piglet doing?

"Spot"

[mbp]

I am so sorry to hear about this - but almost relieved you didn't have to make the choice - that can be so difficult. I will keep jingling for Piglet.

[Daydream Believer]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Sorry about Pooh...I hope Piglet makes it...Jingling for Piglet...

"Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you. Give me a pig. He just looks you in the eye and treats you as an equal" Winston Churchill
"No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle..." Winston Churchill

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Liz, I am sooo very sorry to hear this news about Pooh. I have been following his story from the begining and I know how hard you have been working to try to help this little guy. I hope Piglet is doing well and give Tigger a hug for me. She is a trooper, just like you. I have been giving my mare and colt extra special big hugs and kisses since I started following this story. I live not to far from you and if I though I could help in anyway, I would.

I know you have atleast one more mare due, keep us posted on her.

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[Nikita]

I'm so sorry Liz. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif Little Pooh has lots of babies to play with and mares to protect him. What a horribly sad year all over.

{{{{{hugs}}}}}} to you for trying so darn hard to save him.

[onetempies]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

Oh I'm so sorry Liz... it's never easy but I'm glad that he made the decision rather than you. This way you don't have to second guess yourself.

Rest in peace little one. Please keep us updated on Piglet and Tigger.

(((Hugs)))

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It's a bay COLT! 5-6-03 by Lacoste.

[rmj]

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

I am SOOOO sorry!! We at Sonesta feel your pain! {{{{HUGS}}}} for you, for Tigger and for Piglet.

Shelli

[All points]

So sorry for you loss Liz http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. I am jingling for little Piglet now. Its been a bad year for so many, including me. 2004 has go to be better.

[JB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pintofoal:
I thought that after all these years of breeding I'd be a bit more hardened to these type of things, but I'm not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Liz, that is exactly the reason that YOU keep breeding, because of your tender heart and love for these strong, yet so fragile creatures! It breaks my heart that Pooh is gone, but I hope you can rest at least a teensy bit easier that youo didn't have to make that decision for him. Happy Frolicking little Pooh!

[Rubs Not Pats]

Liz, I have to give you a lot of credit. Most people would not have done what you did here. Pooh had ever oppertunity. I am very sorry for your loss. As breeders, we have so much time and money wrapped up in these little guys, but more than that, hopes and dreams that they will be happy, healthy and successful. Sometimes, despite our best efforts, it is not meant to be. Know that my thoughts are with you and little Piglet.

It is our choices that show what we truely are, far more than our abilities. A. Dumbledore

[Silly Mommy]

I'm so sorry Liz. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

I will email you later, but I did have plans on using one of the boys for next year (foal of 2005) as well.

Hakuna Matata!!!

http://groups.msn.com/WolfdenFarm/shoebox.msnw

[carosello]

Liz Im so sorry for your loss. Words just dont seem like enough these days http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[Adelita]

Oh Liz,

I am so sorry. It was his time to go, bless you for doing everything you did....

((((((((hugs))))))) and continued prayers for Piglet and Tigger....

&gt;^.,.^&lt;
~~Linda

*~Inside some of us is a thin person struggling to get out, but they can usually be sedated with a few pieces of chocolate cake.*~

[jilltx]

I am so sorry for your loss. How horrible. I will concentrate all my good thoughts and energy to little Piglet!!

[Hidden Treasure]

Ohh I am so sorry. It really is easier when they make the decision for you. Don't feel bad, you did everything you could for him, and you had his best interests at heart.

[Esprit]

Bless him. In his brief moments here on earth, he was fortunate to bond with a caring and loving mom, see his sibling, and was gifted with the care that you provided so lovingly. He's at peace now with no more suffering. Get some sleep Liz.

We're still jingling for Tigger and Piglet.

I do wish there was more I could do. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

http://www.fieldstone-farm.com

[YoungFilly]

this is the saddest news. I am so sorry, he was so beautiful. This is so sad, so tough. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

[fullmoon fever]

Liz - I'm so sorry to hear about little Pooh. I'll think of him whenever I think of my buckskin filly, Topaz. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

As others have said, it may have been a bit easier for you to not have to make the decision, but it really doesn't hurt any less I know. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

Founder of the Olde Farte Clique

[talloaks]

Liz I'm SO sorry that your little Pooh decided on his own to cross the Rainbow Bridge, perhaps he knew there were so many other foals to play with and mothers waiting for him. You gave him your best and that is ALL that you could have done. Get some sleep for yourself!! Tomorrow has to be better!! Keep the faith!!!
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"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man." Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

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[HFSH]

Oh I'm sorry Liz. My condolences for Pooh. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

In Memory of Remarkable (http://www.hopefulfarm.com/Indy.html)

[Dolce Vita]

oh pintofoal, I am so so sorry. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

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Just ease your mind, have a banana or two
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[Little Indian]

It's been almost officially a week (at 11:45 or so PM) since we had to put Crick down. Cricket always had a thing for babies (calfs, puppys etc.) maybe she's taking care of him up there. jingling for Piglet and Tigger.

"Cricket"
Rest In Peace
1977-May 30, 2003

[This message was edited by Little Indian on Jun. 07, 2003 at 01:27 AM.]

[mwalshe]

Awww.. crap. I'm sorry pintofoal. I always look forward to your posts about your beautiful boys and I'm sorry that you lost this the little guy after all that you tried to do to save him.

Glad to hear your other little guy is doing better. Sometimes I don't know how you guys do this- financially or otherwise http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Rockin']

Have been following your post since you first posted it and am very sorry to see that your foal did not make it.Here is hoping that all goes well for Piglet and his Mum and that you are able to get some rest... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

[LawnOrnamentLuvr]

Dear Liz, My sincerest sympathy on the loss of little Pooh. He looked so good in the pictures you posted. What a lousy year this has been. There are no words to comfort you .. so I send hugs. Jingles for Piglet.

Lawny

Houston, where hell rarely freezes over.

[Hexel]

Oh Liz So So sorry for your loss and all the anguish you have been dealing with these last few days. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif. What a champ Pooh was to take a little of the burden away and you, not have to make the awful choice.
It has been a relentless year form the bad winter, to now all this depressing rain.
Hopefuly the sun will soon shine. Best wishes for Piglet and your brave mare and better days ahead.

[BVF]

Oh, Liz, I am SOOO sorry you had to go through this. I've been away, so just learned of your tragedy. Jingling for Piglet. You're all in my prayers. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[square halt]

Oh, Liz. Feeling just deflated over the news, but relieved for you, as well. It was best that Pooh made the decision for you. I am sure your gut and your heart were having quite a discussion. Hoping that at least the rain gives you a break soon. We are having the same weather here, and it certainly makes a gloomy day a bit more difficult to bear. Sending thoughts of sunshine and healthy foals, broodmares, and stallions.

[shea'smom]

I want to add my condolences. I have been checking on the babies. What a year.
Kathi

[Louise]

I'm so sorry Liz, but I have faith that you would have made the right decision, if Pooh hadn't decided for you.

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This too, shall pass.

[enavant]

I have been following your sad story from the beginning and decided that I should actually register with the forum so I could reply and add my deepest sympathies. I have never posted here before but what you have just gone through brings up memories of all the foaling agonies that I have gone through and you sound like a true homewoman who has the best interest of her horses at heart. Just remember...this too shall pass.

[ise@ssl]

Breeding is a rough business and only those of us who have had to face the inexplicable losses know how heart wrenching it can be. I've come to believe that we really don't own these wonderful creatures - God does and he entrusts them to us. Sometimes he calls them back and we can't understand why but we must believe they are all in a better place for a better reason.

Pooh isn't suffering and I'm sure he will be a guardian angel for this "bubba" Piglet!

[frugalannie]

Liz: we're so sorry to hear of your loss. But my heart is truly warmed by your commitment to do the right thing for your foal. Your beautifully articulate post about having to make the hard decision and drawing a line serves as a real role model. I know you'll be rewarded in the future for all of your caring and effort. Best wishes for Piglet and the mare.

[pintofoal]

Can't say it enough, but again thanks for all the good thoughts, help, etc. I am still mentally exhasted from this whole ordeal, so if I'm babbling please forgive me, I've had folks call about other things here at the farm and I think they are thinking they are talking to a mental case or the village idiot.

The good news is Piglet continues to improve and I hope to have him and Tigger home by the begining of the week,again will keep you all posted and I think from here on out it will be good news. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Liz, if anyone needs some good news, it is you. I am glad to hear things are well with Tiger and Piglet. I can't wait to see more pics of them.

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[canadian eh?]

Somehow I missed this enitre thread and now I'm just sobbing after reading the whole thing... Liz you did all you could and gave poor Pooh more of a chance than most could have... god bless you for that. Jingling for Piglet and hoping for a busy breeding season for your stallions to re-coup for all you efforts. I have a lovely big clyde cross mare who is a pinto that I'd love to breed, but it's financially not in the cards this year. I hope for the best for you, you are a special person.

*~* Not the sharpest crayon in the tool shed, are we? oh wait... *~*

[Tawna24]

Liz, I am SSSSOOOO Sorry. Believe me- I KNOW how you feel. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I am still exausted from my ordeal at Leesburg. Everything happened at once for me too- all very fast, not alot of time to think, and many hard decisions. Now I am trying to pay off over 12K in vet bills. Luckily mare & foal are home, but there have been 2 bouts since they came back, and they are still on 24 hour watch basically. I just got laid off a month ago so, I am here all the time and can watch them.
I tried to push for discounted breedings & also tried to get some jobs doing website design- no monetary or additional "help" with my barn routine either. A few pick me up letters from some kind COTH members, but now I am in VERY bad financial shape. I may have to sell all of my guys because I can not afford to feed them. My husband is having a fit. I just sold one to a nice family at a price that makes me SICK- just to buy some hay. It was either that, or sell at the auction- which is the point I am getting to. I can only pray to GOD they bring a high enough price NOT to go for meat. It makes me sick. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif If I knew I was going to be laid off would it have made a difference to try & save my mare? I don't know. I would have had a 10k buffer, but now, I have nothing, and still am trying to find $2,500 to pay off the remaining vet balance.

Please know Pooh is in a better place now, and be so thankful for the friends you have that are there for you in your time of need. Things could be alot worse...

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
"Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinano ASHA/Dutch WB.

[MyShadeOfPink]

So sorry liz... you did al you can for him...

::Jennie::
"Nothing of me is original. I am the combined effort of everybody I've ever known."-Invisible Monsters

[Jaguar]

I have been lurking and have just read all 11 pages of this heartbreaking story.....
Pooh was sooo adorable but just not ready for this world,....he will be on the other side of the rainbow bridge waiting for his brother to come over one day (hopefully not for a good 25-30 years.. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif).

Best of luck with piglet, and hopefully only good news from here on in!

"I hope you will grow up to be gentle and good, and never learn bad ways, do your work with good will, lift your feet up well when you trot, and never bite or kick even in play."
-Duchess, Black Beauty, Anna Sewell

[Leah A]

After reading this whole thread, I felt compelled to offer my condolences on the loss of your beautiful little one and best wishes for the continued improvement of Piglet.

[4_beatin_it]

Oh Liz....how tragic

I just came accross this thread, and was rooting for the little guy through 10 pages of this thread.

I am so sorry for you!

Got my fingers crossed for Piglet and Tigger, hope they come home safe and sound!

happy horsin!

[Bentley]

I haven't been on in a bit and the last I heard the poor little guy was up an nursing.... How fragile life is. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

I'm so sorry this happened to you,and hope that piglet and tigger are doing better today,

Take care
Alixe

[mountain girl]

Poor little Pooh is in a better place and you have done your best by the foals. Good luck from here on out!

from coastal Maine, where boatlovers rule, and horselovers ride.

[crestline]

Just got back in town and saw your news...so sorry that the little guy didn't pull through. I"m keeping the other two in my thoughts....

Andrea Clibborn-Anderson
www.crestlinefarm.com (http://www.crestlinefarm.com)
Home of Pinto Dutch Warmblood Palladio and Oldenburg stallion Grand Memory

[Portia]

I'm so sorry Liz. Rest in peace little one. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Tiki]

Liz, somehow I missed this thread. So sorry for your loss. I think we've all had far more than we can take this year. Don't know what's going on. Hope we all somehow make it through.

Tranquility Farm (http://www.tranquilityfarm.com)
We don't have many, but the ones we have are nice

[Kovy]

I am so very sorry to read of the loss of Pooh. I hope Piglet will be fine. What a lot of sadness on this board this year. I hope things will get better for everyone. Stay strong!

[OhioColleen]

Oh, I just found this thread. I'm so sorry Liz! :::jingling for piglet:::

Just remember, if the world didn't suck, we would all fall off.
~Colleen

[treasmare]

Poor little Pooh....I like to think that my sweet little mare who left her own baby behind will take little Pooh under her wing. So many losses....I send my wishes to you. I too am wrestling with how to cover the vet bills...a very real reminder of our losses. Hope Piglet is doing well.

[Quinn]

Liz, so very sorry about Pooh baby. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

"If you are going through hell, keep going." ~Churchill~

[flshgordon]

oh I came in this morning so hoping to hear that little Pooh was doing well. It's so hard to understand why they are taken away from us but especially when they are so young. Still jingling for Tigger & piglet to come home soon!

[BarnBrat]

I am so sorry for your loss. I am glad your other baby and your mare are doing well, and I pray that they will come home soon.

Mares Rule!

[breezymeadow]

PayPal'd you last night Liz. My lovely "Ruffian grand-niece" (& yes I know that that's probably not the biologically correct terminology, you horsey grammar gurus, you!) now has a date with State of the Art!

Bless you Liz, & hope you're getting some well-earned rest. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer-upper".

[pintofoal]

I again cannot say it enough...THANKS everyone!

Piglet and Tigger remain in the hospital, piglet still has the diarrhea, I am really hoping to get them home soon--this is killing me! I do think and so do the vets that Piglet will be a healthy boy and be fine, it is just taking a bit of doing to get him there. Jingles are still appreciate and so are all your good thoughts, wonderful emails, etc. Sorry I have not been able to get back with everyone in a timely manner. Things here are still hectic and of course we are in the mists of breeding season to boot, but don't think I don't appreciate every gesture--YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Jingle jingle for Piglet! Keep us posted, I have been watching for an update, I understand you are busy!

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[Silly Mommy]

Please keep us updated Liz.

I made up my mind and Paypal'd you as well. Boy what a tough decision - you have such lovely boys it's hard to choose! Providing all goes well with my last mare bred, I have a backup plan for the stallion I didn't choose! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hakuna Matata!!!

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[Irelandais]

YAY, good news!

OT here, but WOW do you have some nice stallions! I wish i had a mare to breed to one of them.

http://community.webshots.com/user/irelandais

[Nikita]

Still jingling for Piglet. I hope he and Tigger are home really soon.

My mind not only wanders, it sometime leaves completely.

[pintofoal]

Unfortunately it's not good news http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Now Piglet has a swollen hock, most likely he is getting septic in his joints. He still has diarrhea and there is no end in site to this hospital stay........uaahhhhhhhhhhhh I just want to cry http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif Not sure what I am going to do at this point, I guess all I can do is wait for the results of the fluids drawn from the joint again I wish it was better news, I thought there was light at the end of the tunnel, but it's not looking that way now.

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Spot]

Oh Liz - I am SO sorry to hear the bad news about little Piglet ...
Its not fair with Pooh gone that Piglet isnt pulling through.

Big jingles - hoping for a better update from you!

"Spot"

[Draygonfyne]

Liz...thanks for the updates but so sorry to hear the news isn't any better yet. Hang in there.....continued jingles from Ontario.

My kingdom for a horse
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[Bugs-n-Frodo]

Liz, this really sucks. I am still jingling, I REALLY hope Piglet pulls through.

~Amy, Bugs and Frodo~

[Galileo1998]

More Ontario jingles for Piglet!

[artisticgold]

Ohhhhhh! So sorry to hear this latest development! Hope he makes it...jingling twice as hard!

[~*CookiE*~]

http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Jingles for Piglet. I hope he pulls through. this is such a tear jerker! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

~*persistence pays off! hehe!*~

[luckyduck]

Jingles from Atlanta.....

[onetempies]

Still jingling here as well! Hope Piglet pulls through!

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It's a bay COLT! 5-6-03 by Lacoste.

[talloaks]

Jingling for Piglet!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif And hope the pot bellied pig finds a home fast---not sure they make good bacon???? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man." Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

www.talloaksfarm.net (http://www.talloaksfarm.net)

[Erin]

Oh, Liz, I just saw this thread. So sorry you lost little Pooh, and jingling like crazy for Piglet.

[baycollie]

Liz, I was so optimistic for your twins when they were first born. I am so sorry for your loss of Pooh and now Piglet's troubles. I am jingling like crazy for you. My heart goes out to you and poor Tigger.

[sketcher]

My thoughts are with you Liz, I hope Piglet pulls through and I'm awfully sorry about Pooh.