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Minerva Louise
Jan. 23, 2010, 11:09 AM
Ok- lots of questions because I am new to Western Saddles and Gaited Horses.

I sold my nutty TB and now am trying to satisfy my horse addiction by renting horses at a local gaited-horse-rental-trail-riding facility. The only problem is that the rental saddles are AWFUL!!!! My poor arse is seriously :eek: bruised (seatbones areas) - from a 1-hour lesson in the arena!!!

Sooooo - what I am looking for is something that will work for a gaited horse, be comfortable for hours in the saddle, be of a "Western" type but prefer no saddle horn so I can scrunch low on the horse's neck to climb a steep place with low tree branches without being gutted.

I believe Katarine likes the Steele saddles (I think, am I right Kat?) I like the looks of this onehttp://www.steelesaddle.com/mountaineer.htm
and this one
http://www.steelesaddle.com/frontier.htm
Would one or the other be "better" in some way?

Specialized is a possibility due to the adjustable fit- however I don't think I am usually going to have a lot of time to sit around the barn with my rentahorse fiddling with shims, plus I have heard they have a rather hard seat which I need to avoid.

Any other suggestions? I will pretty much only entertain ones that I can test ride as I don't want to get stuck with something that doesn't work for me, and there really aren't many places locally (or even not so locally) to go sit on saddles in a store.

Money isn't a big issue, but if a saddle is big money I do want it to be worth big money.

Petstorejunkie
Jan. 23, 2010, 12:32 PM
google: BH805 Big Horn Flex Tree Trail Saddle
they run for $1000 and have a memory foam seat and flocking.
For a western saddle they have a VERY narrow twist (it sits with a balance point like my passier, but WAY squishier)
The stirrups have lots of swing to them so your knees dont get tired, there's a gazillion ways to rig the girth so it stays in place no matter what bizarre conformation you are dealing with.

This saddle rules!

howardh
Jan. 23, 2010, 02:48 PM
go to Hillview Farms or Evolutionary Saddles. I got mine there.

After years of packing different saddles for every horse, or buying a new saddle every time I changed horses, I bought a couple of her saddles and could not be happier. It fits my whole herd and I have a high withered slab sided Walker, a mule, an old appy losing flesh, fat arabs a lean off the track horse AND a quarter horse.

These saddles are not cheap, but to buy one that will fit whatever you ride is worth the money. We ride for 6-8 hours so I have heavily tested these saddles.

Everyone's definition of high withered, fat backed etc is personal. A saddle that fits one will not fit another and even if it fits the horse it may not fit you! Spend a little more to save thousands in the future. Wish I would have bought one of these 30 years ago! (of course they were not around then but you get the drift)!

Leather
Jan. 23, 2010, 04:12 PM
Ditto the Evolutionary Saddles from Hillview Farms.

http://www.american-flex.com/A-f%20Easy%20Slide%20Saddles.htm

SouthernTrailsGA
Jan. 23, 2010, 05:12 PM
Here are a few choices :)

http://www.southerntrailssaddle.com/images/E-1402-1.jpg

http://www.southerntrailssaddle.com/images/Plantation3.jpg

They come in Light Oil, Mahogany, Black, Chocolate and many choices of Trees, Rigging, etc.

.

Leather
Jan. 23, 2010, 07:58 PM
I know many folks rave about their Tennesseean Saddles:

http://www.nationalbridle.com/Tennessean-Saddles-s/232.htm

Countryclips
Jan. 23, 2010, 08:40 PM
I would not recommend buying a saddle for a rental gaited horse if it is not a Treeless or a tree that you can shim to fit or like the Ortho-Flex. Gaited horses need a good fitting saddle to be able to freely move their shoulders to gait. I own 8 gaited horses and use a Sensation and a Torsion Treeless with different saddle pads to get the right fit. I had the Bighorn endurance but found it to be too heavy, very comfy but they come in wide or regular trees and if you get the wrong one it will be uncomfortable for the horse. My saddles have western fenders and very secure seats.

SEPowell
Jan. 23, 2010, 09:41 PM
David Stackhouse is coming to PA. He could make you one for not much more than a high end off the rack saddle. But you'd need to come up with a horse for him to measure.

JollyBadger
Jan. 24, 2010, 10:14 AM
I've heard mixed reviews on the Tennessean saddles, both in terms of their comfort to horse and rider AND that they're not nearly as "pretty" in person as they look in the catalog.

Another name that gets tossed around for gaited horses is the Brenda Imus saddle. Personally, I wouldn't touch any of her products with a ten foot pole after the bit I bought was experiencing serious dysfunction only two years after I bought it. Her "customer service" was anything but. Some people do rave about her stuff. . .but I kind of put them in the same category as the Parellites. . .'nuff said.

Both my boyfriend and I ride our (gaited) horses in Tucker saddles. He has the plantation style, I have an older Cheyenne trail (western, with a horn. . .which I now realize was a mistake after riding English for so many years). Other than the horn, it is a REALLY comfortable saddle. Sadly, it no longer fits my own TWH but it does fit one of the horses that my boyfriend owns. . .so it's not for sale, yet.:winkgrin: I found a very similar-to-a-Tucker saddle on eBay last summer and bought it for $250 (shipping included!). Best of all, it fits my horse and doesn't have a horn. I just have no idea who the maker is. . .can't find a stamp or plate anywhere. For that price, though, I don't care as long as it works for my horse.

Steele makes an excellent trail saddle. . .Another would be the Robert or Eli Miller saddles, though they may be harder to come by these days. There is also Montana Mountain Horse. I bought a pulling breastcollar from them a couple of years ago and they were fantastic. Good service, and I LOVE the breastcollar. They do make their own saddles, including ones for gaited horses, and they do custom makes.

To me, the jury is still kind of out on the treeless thing. SOme people rave about them, others have had bad experiences of their own and told me not to bother. I think, with a treeless, you would want to be especially sure it would work okay when you ride the barn's horses.

In the meantime. . .you could always buy one of those sheepskin bum-cushions that straps onto the saddle. Just don't ride through deep water or get stuck in the rain, because you'll end up with a VERY wet tush for the rest of the ride.:lol:

Guilherme
Jan. 24, 2010, 10:58 AM
Not being a fan of the "treeless" variety I'd strike them from consideration immediately.

I have my doubts about the "adjustable variety" and the "one kind fits all" variety. I've got a Stubben Scout that really does seem to fit a wider range of conformations than I'd have thought, but it's not a "universal" fit.

How similar in conformation are the horses you ride? If they are similar and you like it and it's likely you'll buy a horse with that conformation then it makes sense to spend some real money on a good saddle.

But if the above is not true in any particular then you're likely not going to be able to use one saddle over the long haul.

Possible solution: multiple saddles for multiple horses. Right now everything in the horse industry is "on sale." You can buy really good quality, used saddles for very reasonable prices. So instead of one new or nearly new saddle get two or three older, good condition, good quality saddles. It's a good compromise for the horse's back and your butt! :)

As to brand, Tucker and Steele have good names. We've owned a Steele and were very satisfied. I've seen many Tuckers and they were uniformly well made. There are other good brands out there. It certainly pays to "shop around."

And, given the poor overall condition of the equine economy don't be afraid to negotiate with a "sharp pencil."

Good luck in your search.

G.

tollertwins
Jan. 24, 2010, 11:27 AM
I agree w/ the 'get a tush cush' suggestion.

Even the hideously expensive ones are MUCH cheaper than a new saddle.

Memory foam types: Skito makes one, Heather moffet makes one

Closed cell types: Cashel

Merino wool: bunches and bunches

Even supracor makes one!

And there are probably some gel ones out there, too!

Minerva Louise
Jan. 24, 2010, 11:56 AM
Wow- I am thrilled to see so many responses! I really appreciate the help; there are so many choices out there and it is wonderful to at least have some directions to look towards.

One thing I should probably point out is that I don't think poor rentahorse was much more comfortable than I was; the gait I got from him was almost pure pace though in his defense he is only 3 and gets ridden strictly by tourists. I thought he was a saint for trucking along as well as he did. It's not like I was doing a fabulous job riding as well, because by two minutes into the ride my butt was toast.

Either they have several of this same saddle that they automatically put on every horse they have regardless of fit or I have been really unlucky- I have ridden there several times, always get a different horse, and always get a black saddle with teal cordura stirrups and it always bruises my seatbones. I think they just throw a thick pad on under these saddles and call it good enough. I wish they'd throw a thick pad OVER the saddle, as well as under it! :lol:

Sooo, that leads me to think that if I just bought a decent saddle, as long as it fits the horse kinda ok then the horse is at the very least no worse off than if I was riding in the rentasaddle, and hopefully the horse is better off. Of course, I might be able to find one or two horses that fit my saddle best and request them specifically when I phone in my ride reservation.

Really though, I am going to have to have a different saddle because elsewise I just can't ride. I just cannot take this bruising. It's severe. There is much swelling. There is much discoloration. DH (who is a nurse practitioner) saw it and was all :eek:

Anyway- I have been reading up on all these saddles mentioned so far. Thank you all for taking the time to give me leads! If anybody else has more, throw it at me- I am really enjoying looking at all the ideas!

Minerva Louise
Jan. 24, 2010, 12:00 PM
Wanted to add:

I know a tush cushion would be a cheaper alternative.

However.....

There are other issues with the rental saddles, like stirrup placement and lack of flexibility. And all the rental saddles of course have horns. Which leads me to think that my own saddle would be nicer....

tollertwins
Jan. 24, 2010, 12:52 PM
Really though, I am going to have to have a different saddle because elsewise I just can't ride. I just cannot take this bruising. It's severe. There is much swelling. There is much discoloration. DH (who is a nurse practitioner) saw it and was all



!!!!! That sounds like a bigger issue than just a hard saddle!!!! Like maybe it doesn't even CLOSE to fit the horse!

Curiously
Jan. 24, 2010, 01:49 PM
Hard to believe that riding a gaited horse left you uncomfortable and bruised! :eek: Yikes.

For comfort and still a fairly secure seat, what about a deep dressage saddle? It would free up the horse's shoulders better than a western saddle, plus might be more balanced and comfortable for you. Most western saddles do seem to put the stirrup too far forward for a gaited horse. Put a grab strap on a dressage saddle and no worries about a horn jabbing into your midriff. :yes:

When you read up on treeless saddles, you'll see a lot of recommendations that they are *not* good for riders who weigh more than 150lbs since there's no tree to spread out the weight and alleviate pressure.

Regardless of the saddle you end up with (yours or a different saddle borrowed from the rental stable), why don't you try a Thinline saddle pad first? Cheaper than buying a saddle and makes a world of difference. ;)

dreamswept
Jan. 24, 2010, 02:17 PM
When you read up on treeless saddles, you'll see a lot of recommendations that they are *not* good for riders who weigh more than 150lbs since there's no tree to spread out the weight and alleviate pressure.


I thought 200 lbs was the recommended limit.

Curiously
Jan. 24, 2010, 03:17 PM
I thought 200 lbs was the recommended limit.

Perhaps that's *including* the saddle itself, plus possibly other accessories like saddle bags, maybe water bottles, what-have-you, so that the combined weight of rider with all tack is not to exceed 200lbs? I've generally heard that the rider should not be more than 150lbs.

Get down to it, if the rider is 200lbs, plus tack, etc., you're starting to approach the weight limit for any horse with any saddle, not just a treeless saddle. Depending on the individual circumstances, of course.

PRS
Jan. 25, 2010, 09:55 AM
A treeless saddle is a good option if you want one to fit several horses and riders. Sensation makes a quality line of treeless saddles that work very well for gaited horses. I have a Sensation Hybrid http://www.freedomtreeless.com/G3Hybrid.html which I absolutely LOVE. It has enough twist for me so it doesn't pull my hips out of socket. I just rode 3 days in a row while horse camping in Florida this weekend and have absolutely no pain in my seat bones, hips or knees. All the treed saddle riders that were with me are complaining of pain, not me though! Sensation also makes a western model: http://www.freedomtreeless.com/G4Western.html. You can demo any saddle for free (just pay shipping). I highly recommend checking them out. BTW I weigh 175 pounds and my horse has never had any soreness or pressure issues. Proper padding is the key. I demoed and purchased mine from Melissa at Freedom Treeless http://www.freedomtreeless.com/

I have to say this....most people who are adamantly against treeless saddles have either never tried one, have tried one that wasn't right for them or their horse or are just regurgitating things they've heard from others who have a predjudice against treeless saddles. Just like treed saddles a treeless saddle has to fit your horse, it has to be properly padded to create a spine channel and no one saddle is going to fit every horse. That being said any given treeless saddle is going to fit a wider range of horses than any given treed saddle.

EDIT: My saddle, including everything probably doesn't weigh much over 10 or 15 pounds so it is much lighter than any treed saddle out there too.

jeano
Jan. 25, 2010, 11:07 AM
Perhaps that's *including* the saddle itself, plus possibly other accessories like saddle bags, maybe water bottles, what-have-you, so that the combined weight of rider with all tack is not to exceed 200lbs? I've generally heard that the rider should not be more than 150lbs.

Get down to it, if the rider is 200lbs, plus tack, etc., you're starting to approach the weight limit for any horse with any saddle, not just a treeless saddle. Depending on the individual circumstances, of course.

On behalf of myself and all 200 pound or over riders everywhere I respectfully submit: hogwash. Plenty of horses can tote heavyweight riders and tack just fine.

SouthernTrailsGA
Jan. 25, 2010, 11:38 AM
On behalf of myself and all 200 pound or over riders everywhere I respectfully submit: hogwash. Plenty of horses can tote heavyweight riders and tack just fine.

LOL..... I agree...

I have a friend who rides in a Bob Marshal and is over that magic number, she is very knowledgeable about Horses, Saddles, Training, Teaching, Etc.

The key to using a Treeless is to have the Correct Pad under the Saddle to help in weight distribution, I think she uses a Skito Pad, even the 125lbs riders need a proper fitting Saddle and the Correct Saddle pad, in any type of Saddle!

It is the same thing with a Treed Saddle, you must make sure the bars have the correct rock in them, correct gullet width, correct bar spread and the correct fit for the back of the saddle bars too.

.

dreamswept
Jan. 25, 2010, 12:07 PM
Sensation also makes a western model: http://www.freedomtreeless.com/G4Western.html.

This is the one I demoed. Also from Melissa. It was a nice saddle.

Guilherme
Jan. 25, 2010, 05:48 PM
I have to say this....most people who are adamantly against treeless saddles have either never tried one, have tried one that wasn't right for them or their horse or are just regurgitating things they've heard from others who have a predjudice against treeless saddles. Just like treed saddles a treeless saddle has to fit your horse, it has to be properly padded to create a spine channel and no one saddle is going to fit every horse. That being said any given treeless saddle is going to fit a wider range of horses than any given treed saddle.

EDIT: My saddle, including everything probably doesn't weigh much over 10 or 15 pounds so it is much lighter than any treed saddle out there too.

Or they've researched them, tried them, found them seriously wanting, and wonder about those who claim otherwise. ;)

G.

katarine
Jan. 25, 2010, 06:12 PM
Ditto to what G. said about Treeless.

If you want comfortable and fairly cheap I like Fabtrons.

Steele's are pricey but NICE.

Eli Millers are nice, too. If you can find one.

Bighorn went out of business. There are saddles out there but they are out of business. Just FYI.

Tuckers are well made and pricey. I had a River Plantation model I loved but it promoted a chair seat.

FWIW not all gaited horses gait, anymore than every QH has a perfect pitty pat jog or pretty, head down, slow lope. And ain't no way any rental gaited horse gaits- If they do it's a rack or a step pace- they are more likely to try to save themselves in a hard pace.

Minerva Louise
Jan. 25, 2010, 07:09 PM
Once again I want to thank everyone who has posted here trying to literally help me save my butt! :lol:

I'm still a little ouchy here, several days after the ride. :(

All your posts have given me information to google and search the forums here (hard to search if you don't have a search term...) I have spent lots of time reading up on old threads and reading various websites selling many kinds of saddles.

I DO like that Steele will send you a demo saddle that they warn you beforehand that "our demo saddles have seen many miles on the trail." Boy- that would be a perfect demo to have, not brand spanking new so if you scratch it or a drip of something drips on it there is a spot, or whatever- no worries, it isn't brand new. I also found a tack shop that isn't too terribly far from here that carries Tuckers. So that is one I can go see in person. The shop doesn't have a site so I don't know yet if they do demos on the Tuckers but found another shop that does relatively nearby so shipping wouldn't eat me alive.

My weight varies but I will admitt I am often a bit heavy for the treeless varieties. I'd like to blend in more than stand out, so if I ride something treed I will be less of a stand out.

I guess I have to go Google Fabtrons now, haven't looked at them yet...

The quality of the rental horse's gaits are what I am going to be stuck with at least for now as the boarding possibilities here are abysmal at best. So until I can find a place to keep a beastie of my own, I am going to have to make do. They are good natured at least... I cannot say that about my former beastie. At least I get to ride! :)

2Jakes
Jan. 25, 2010, 07:25 PM
Ouch! I feel your pain regarding the seatbone issue. I have the same problem with any treed saddle. A fellow board member recommended the Supracor seat saver and it *IS* an amazing difference! I've tried the others (fleece, gel, etc), nothing compares to the Supracor!

Get yourself a Supracor and take your time finding a saddle you love. You may want to use it on the new saddle too.

Honestly, I think riding gaited horses is harder on our pointy seatbones than riding a trotting horse where you are posting and in two-point at least some of the time. If you are on a smooth gaited horse (mine is a very glide-ride Foxtrotter) there is still movement (and friction) in your seat, just no bounce.

FWIW I have been searching for a treed saddle that I am comfy in because my horse gets sore from my seatbones through a Bob Marshall, thinline and a Skito pad. (I am 5'5" and about 140 lbs but apparently my butt is not well-padded.) I got a synthetic english to tide us over until I find what I really want, and the Supracor made it so I didn't get bruised from the tree. With that I thought maybe if I couldn't feel the tree on my seatbones, maybe Jakey wouldn't feel my seatbones thru the Supracor with the treeless saddle. Yesterday I tested the theory...we rode 15.5 miles in the treeless...at all gaits, including a 14 minute canter stretch...and he never complained :). This morning, no tenderness :). I think we might be onto something! Supracor rules!

Sacred_Petra
Jan. 27, 2010, 01:38 AM
I know you're looking for one without a horn, but I saw the Tennesseans mentioned, and had to add in my 2 cents. I just bought a Tennessean for my horse (he's a Paint who hasn't figured out he's not a gaited horse yet) and I LOVE it. Its comfortable, beautiful in person, and sat me in a really good position. My horse obviously thinks its more comfortable too, because he completely changed how he moved, so much so that I had several people ask me which horse I was riding. The seat is also much better designed for a woman's shape than many other western saddles I've tried. Mine has the double c plate rigging, which is also very nice, since I can position it differently depending on the horse without the girth intefereing with movement.

Anyways, thats just my experience. Good luck on the saddle search!

rmh_rider
Feb. 1, 2010, 09:43 AM
I stopped riding endurance after many years over the past year or so, but I didn't sell my competition arab. But I did buy a rocky mt horse, gaited. I am using the same saddle for both horses. Both horses are a wide width. I have a crosby med width but it doesn't fit either horse. Love that saddle too.

I am riding in an Arabian Saddle Company Solstice. Not a gaited saddle. I will never ride with a horn. Hate horns.

You have to find a saddle to fit you, and your horse. Just because a saddle says "gaited" doesn't mean it only fits a gaited horse. No you need a gaited saddle because you have a gaited horse.

It is all about the fit. The fit of you. The fit of your horse. The fit of you both together.

The solstice is an english saddle. My filly gaits really well in this saddle. I have tried with NO success many other saddles. I was looking and thinking oh need gaited saddle. Nope. They do not fit my horse, and they were horribly uncomfortable for me too. This saddle fits us both, so we will stay with this one for now. It is a deep saddle but not too deep. Very cushy feeling. Also I can have it custom stuffed if need be. Gaited, endurance, or western saddles you can not. No horn on english either YEAH. I don't like the rise of the fronts of western/endurance/gaited either.

I have ridden many endurance miles on all kinds of terrain with this saddle. Now I have ridden many miles on my gaited horse in this saddle.

Gaited horses come in all conformational sizes, widths, and movements. Not all fit in the same saddle. Just because it fits one horse doesn't mean it fits another one. Keep your eyes open, you will find the right one.

Good Luck

Minerva Louise
Feb. 1, 2010, 02:37 PM
Some good news-

My daughter took another lesson and I skipped - I still needed to heal, and it was good for her to have to pilot her own horse rather than fall in line and follow. She had to work a little harder...

This gave me the opportunity to talk to the Wrangler that was doing the lesson and when I told him that the saddle had damaged my seatbones he laughed and said he could get a different saddle for me to try, to let them know when I make my next ride reservation to tell him it was me coming and he'd get something better out for me. I might mention here that I tip the Wrangler when we ride and I am thinking maybe it is about to pay off! I am thinking that the wranglers that spend hours leading trail rides probably know which saddles are the best, and I am really hoping he is going to pull out one of the "special reserve" saddles.

Part of my daughter's lesson included grooming and tacking up this time, and my suspicions about how well the tack is (not) fitting the rental horses was confirmed by the white patches (indicating bridging) on her lesson horse. I used them as a teaching opportunity for my daughter, pointed out the difference in back shape between her lesson horse and the horse we had previously, explained how different backs need different saddle fits. And I told her it was hard to keep a rental stable with perfect saddles for all the horses all the time. But even so, I feel bad for the rental horses now...

whitesage
Feb. 2, 2010, 04:02 PM
And I wouldn't recommend them for anyone who isn't a pretty secure and in-shape rider.

Honestly, if you did get a treeless, from what I've heard the Sensation saddles are pretty good, but I've never tried one in person.

It worries me that you're riding at a barn that is regularly letting tourists ride a 3 yo horse. My concern (aside from for that horse's wellbeing) is that this sounds like an environment where you might end up having more experiences that are scary/unsafe/disastrous. If you sold your nutty TB to focus on trail riding, it sounds like the *best* solution might be to find another place to ride--where the saddles are a bit nicer and the horses are over 3.

I know that sometimes though, we just don't have a choice; it might be the only place you feel is affordable (although buying a new saddle ain't cheap) or the only place within driving distance. If, for whatever reason, you really feel this is where you can ride and it's your only choice, I would maybe try out an Abetta Trinity endurance saddle. There's no horn on them, the seat is a special gel cushion, you can put your own stirrups (english or western) on it, and I believe they run about $499. If these horses are using such horrible tack you could get a full Q/H tree and call it good I think? Not really a western rider here, but from what I remember gaited horses run wide? I think?

Riding shouldn't = bruises! Hope in the future it's a little more pain free--for you and the horse.

Malda
Feb. 2, 2010, 10:57 PM
Have you told the wrangler/owner that you want to use your own saddle? They might not want that. I could see some liability issues (what if something happens to *your* saddle while you ride and you get injured?). I agree with Tollertwins, get your self a sheepskin seat cover, or something like that. Much cheaper, and it will fit all saddles.

I've never heard of a place that rents 3 year olds.

Erin

PRS
Feb. 3, 2010, 12:39 PM
And I wouldn't recommend them for anyone who isn't a pretty secure and in-shape rider.

Honestly, if you did get a treeless, from what I've heard the Sensation saddles are pretty good, but I've never tried one in person.



Why wouldn't you recommend them for anyone who isn't a secure rider? My treeless saddle, (a Sensation Hybrid) is hands down the MOST secure saddle I've ever ridden in. I'm 49 years old, have ridden most of my life and owned my own horses for the last 18 years. I've almost always ridden in western type saddles thinking they offered the most security until my horses started having issues with it. In my quest to make my horse more comfortable I started to investigate treeless saddles, demoed and purchased my hybrid and will never go back to a treed saddle. My horse is happier and my butt, legs, knees and hips are happier. I weigh 175 lbs use a mounting block when I can but I can and have mounted from the ground in this saddle.

Just as with treed saddle there are many, many different treeless saddles of varying quality utilizing different technology and styles. Some offer spine relief on their own but most should be padded with a pad made specifically for treeless saddles. Some offer closer contact than others (all Sensation models offer close contact). Some offer a better twist for the rider than others do. The Sensations have a good twist but should someone need more they offer bolsters to apply under the seat in that area. They offer excellent, secure balanced, seats in all of their models.

I understand that everybody is different and to each his own but I'll never put a stiff treed saddle between me and my horse again when there is such a nice comfortable alternative.

BTW, I've never heard of a 3 year old in a rental string either...poor baby.

Minerva Louise
Feb. 3, 2010, 01:21 PM
Riding at this place is a driving distance thing added in to having tried everywhere else I could and meeting some exceedingly STRANGE people:eek: and one place that was nicer (though still rather odd) but they don't ride if it is below 50 degrees.:confused: So if I pick my daughter up after school and she is looking forward to riding, we haul a$$ to get there in time only to find that, nope, not riding today, temp has just dropped to 49. :no: So we have burned lots of gas and put many miles on the car for NOTHING and a disappointed kid to boot. :mad:

Add that to the fact that I am allowed to co-teach in the lessons and it is a very low stress environment which is reeeeeally good for my DD at this point in her riding, well, it is where we have ended up.

I'm trying to make the best of it, because - at least I get to ride. My kiddo gets to ride. It's not perfect. It is what I have to work with. Darling 3 yo does not buck, so he's got the 12 yo TB beat. The little guy is a doll....

Malda
Feb. 3, 2010, 10:53 PM
I understand your situation completely. The things I would put up with just to ride when I didn't have a horse! There's some weird people out there. One couple was happy to have me ride, but didn't want me to use the horse's saddle, bridle or grooming supplies, since they didn't want anyone messing up their stuff (but putting a stranger on their horse was okay). Another lady didn't tell me her 16 year old had *never* been on a trail (he was an ex-show horse). Ten minutes off the property he dumped me. She was surprised, because he behaved so well at the shows, so why would he have a problem on the trail?? I still suggest using some sort of a saddle cushion, that's what I did when I rode different horses.

50 degrees? Heck, I still wash my horse's tail in that weather. :)



Riding at this place is a driving distance thing added in to having tried everywhere else I could and meeting some exceedingly STRANGE people:eek: and one place that was nicer (though still rather odd) but they don't ride if it is below 50 degrees.:confused: So if I pick my daughter up after school and she is looking forward to riding, we haul a$$ to get there in time only to find that, nope, not riding today, temp has just dropped to 49. :no: So we have burned lots of gas and put many miles on the car for NOTHING and a disappointed kid to boot. :mad:

Add that to the fact that I am allowed to co-teach in the lessons and it is a very low stress environment which is reeeeeally good for my DD at this point in her riding, well, it is where we have ended up.

I'm trying to make the best of it, because - at least I get to ride. My kiddo gets to ride. It's not perfect. It is what I have to work with. Darling 3 yo does not buck, so he's got the 12 yo TB beat. The little guy is a doll....

katarine
Feb. 3, 2010, 11:44 PM
There are not any riderless horses in your neck of the woods? Have you checked that thread?

Minerva Louise
Feb. 4, 2010, 11:17 AM
Kat, have checked the thread. There isn't a one.