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JB
Mar. 12, 2003, 08:17 AM
For those of you who know Sedgefield, you'll be interested in this. Apparently, from a very reliable source, the property has been, for the first time, listed with a realtor http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif The asking price is $1.8mil. Apparently there is a Christian group (as in some fundamentalist Christian Church in the area) who is willing to pay the price (and of course would like a $300k "donation" back from the Hunt http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) and want to put up a church, playground, library, and something else. I don't know if the Hunt will go for that or not. This all makes my quite ill to think of that happening to the grand old place! I have been there, taking lessons, showing, boarding, for almost 28 years. Some of you who know the place have been going to shows there even longer. I had hear rumours last summer that Martin and Johnny were trying to get the $$ together to buy the place and turn it into a full time show facility (for h/j and more), but haven't heard anything else about that. Doesn't SOMEONE out there want to donate $1.8mil? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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JB
Mar. 12, 2003, 08:17 AM
For those of you who know Sedgefield, you'll be interested in this. Apparently, from a very reliable source, the property has been, for the first time, listed with a realtor http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif The asking price is $1.8mil. Apparently there is a Christian group (as in some fundamentalist Christian Church in the area) who is willing to pay the price (and of course would like a $300k "donation" back from the Hunt http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) and want to put up a church, playground, library, and something else. I don't know if the Hunt will go for that or not. This all makes my quite ill to think of that happening to the grand old place! I have been there, taking lessons, showing, boarding, for almost 28 years. Some of you who know the place have been going to shows there even longer. I had hear rumours last summer that Martin and Johnny were trying to get the $$ together to buy the place and turn it into a full time show facility (for h/j and more), but haven't heard anything else about that. Doesn't SOMEONE out there want to donate $1.8mil? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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nelson
Mar. 12, 2003, 08:21 AM
I guess it's better that having it go to a developer . . . but, it's always sad to see a farm be dismantled.

Sleepy
Mar. 12, 2003, 08:28 AM
Very sad. Sedgefield was always one of my favorite places to show.

I haven't been out that way for some time despite many trips to Greensboro for other reasons. But surely that area has been developed to the point of being non-horse friendly. I wanted to cry when my old barn where I boarded for 20 years was put on the block. But it is in an area that makes it dangerous and difficult to get a car in and out of, much less a truck and trailer. Sometimes, you just have to let go, no matter how much you don't want to.

Should I come up for one of the spring shows or would it be better to remember the way it was 20 years ago. I did pay a last visit to White Oak and it would have been better to have stayed away.

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

M. O'Connor
Mar. 12, 2003, 08:28 AM
For those of us who do not know Sedgefield, please describe the property. $1.8M would be pretty CHEAP for any kind of farm property hereabouts.

MCL
'r' H/J/HEq

Ash
Mar. 12, 2003, 08:36 AM
I loved showing at Sedgefield and would be sorry to see it go. I remember watching the Kentucky Derby at the exhibitor party they used to have....

I guess a lot of us have had similar experiences. Where Nelson and I learned how to ride is now the Blue Route! (A highway from the burbs to Philadelphia) Very sad...

joliemom
Mar. 12, 2003, 09:01 AM
Sedgefield Stables, in the 1970s, was in what I'd consider a suburban part of Greensboro, NC. It's roughly 10-15 acres, 1 large, old fashioned barn with an enormous hayloft, and several rings. I was never sure how they organized turnout because the whole place was enclosed by a perimeter fence, that is, no paddocks nor separate pastures. At one time, the property had an outdoor course that included a long rock wall which, to this day, is still my most fondly remembered jump.

JB, we must have met at some point since I took lessons with various members of the Thurston/Thomas family from 1972-1979.

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

diKecnadnuS
Mar. 12, 2003, 09:02 AM
For some odd reason--I've always ridden the best at sedgefield. I LOVE THE ATMOSPHERE there. While the footing isn't perfect all the time, the barns could use improvement...those things can be over looked with all of the service and hospitality they give when you show there.

The ring the ponies go in is kinda spooky, but, its perfect to just get a strong canter and be bold to the jumps--use any spookiness to the advantage!! I really ***hope*** that it doesn't sell. I've only shown there the past few years (I went once about 10 yrs ago)...but, I'll be heart broken to see it go!!

NOJUMP2HI
Mar. 12, 2003, 09:05 AM
::sniff::
::sniff::

Lots of memories at Sedgefield... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

*-( Kit & Dante')-*
[ FOOLPOOF ]

buryinghill1
Mar. 12, 2003, 09:25 AM
I heard the A (May) show would be C, if it existed at all anymore http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

buryinghill1
Mar. 12, 2003, 09:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by M. O'Connor:
For those of us who do not know Sedgefield, please describe the property.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Big open lot about 2 miles from an interstate. The temp-stall barns all need a bulldozer (well, you could push some of them over yourself). The main barn is is sad shape. It's at an intersection of 2 two-lane roads, both very busy commuter paths. I'd guess it's 15 acres.
A perfect location for a couple of fast food joints or a restaurant or a mini mall. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Finzean
Mar. 12, 2003, 09:47 AM
About 100 years ago when I was a little girl Sedgefield was out in the country. There was also Little Bit Pony Farm (Claire Boyce's) near by. I don't know of the original acreage, but over the years it has gone through a major shrink - there used to be 2 big barns that I can remember, and sufficient turnout. Now....it's a postage stamp size place (maybe 6-8 acres), run down, in need of some major revamping. And urban sprawl has indeed created a non-horsey atmosphere. This was the case with a farm we used to lease on the opposite side of town. It sold for $60K an acre back in the late 80's. Sedgefield has such a history...I'm sad to see it finally go but it's just not the same since it hasn't been kept up over the years. I'd rather remember it the way it was long ago.

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

joliemom
Mar. 12, 2003, 09:59 AM
finzean, now you've pushed me into the Way Back Machine and set the timer for 1975. Lawd, lawd, do I remember Little Bit Pony Farm and its colorful owner. Or how about the ever genial Cam Bell who could stretch any one syllable word into at least 3. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If indeed Sedgefield is sold, the Hunt should organize an enormous wake so those of us who rode there can pay our last respects.

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

Meredith
Mar. 12, 2003, 10:06 AM
How sad...I too seemed to ride my best there. Plus I got to see all my old barn buds that had moved onto other facilities because everyone went to thos shows.

Wonder if they will still hold this year's shows there? My barn was planning on going to several of their shows.

Specks
Mar. 12, 2003, 10:27 AM
Another one of us with fond memories...both of the show grounds and the hunt its self. It's been about 17 years since i've been there (oh my god, i'm old!), but i remember it like it was yesterday.
i went off course in my very first medal class there (on my large pony, nonetheless!). Something about i was supposed to go over the brick wall, but we didn't realized that on the other side of the brick was a stone patten, so i had to circle the ring a few times before i finally found it, jumped it, and trotted out in shame. (walking the course back then wasn't done... clearly, it should have been!)
http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gifi'm glad it lasted as long as it did. i hope it stays even longer..

RodeoGirl
Mar. 12, 2003, 10:57 AM
What a shame. Like many others I spent lots of hours learning to ride there. I hope that it can be somehow saved!


I got my prize list today for the C shows in March, April, May and June. I'm quite positive that those shows are still on. I'll keep you posted as I have pretty good sources on this topic.

JB
Mar. 12, 2003, 10:59 AM
Sedgefield is still about 15 acres. There is a dirt road that runs around the inner perimeter that used to be quite nice to ride on, but not isn't http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Captain Jackson (yes, really!) used to train his pacers and trotters around that road for many years. His horses lived on the barn that isn't there any more http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif The main barn is close to 100 years old. There are 2 all-weather show rings and one smaller schooling ring. Permanent show stalls line the back 2 sides. The rest of the place is pasture - yep, 1 pasture. Turnout groups take turns. They used to turn out a group at night, but stopped that after most of one group was struck and killed by lightning http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

As far as I know, the May A show is still just that - it's listed on the NCHJA site as being such. It is always fun to watch the Derby under the tent with the food http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I think it's a fabulous low key place to show. Some of the original outside jumps are still there, but all grown over. I've never gotten to jump the stone wall, and keep saying I'm going to clear it out of all the grown up trees and do that before it's too late, but who knows...

For those of you who are around, I would love for you all to come to some of the shows this year. I don't have the shock of seeing it suddenly like it is, as I've been there so long, but it's still got such character. It's hard to believe after all these years of rumours that it's being sold might actually be coming to fruition http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

joliemom - maybe we did! Mrs. Thurston was so awesome! I just loved her. She died looking exactly like I'd always known her, which I thought was pretty cool. Mrs. Thomas isn't in the best of health now, but she's still a strong-willed woman!

rodeogirl - would you mind getting in touch with me? I'd love to know who your source is. I didn't list my source here for obvious reasons.

houndsears
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:20 AM
This is so sad...yet another farm in Greensboro gone. (Or soon to be.)
My sister and I learned to ride at Henson's and that land is now a subdivision. Not to mention all the other farms in that area that have been sold & developed.

RodeoGirl
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:25 AM
JB, Check your email.

nelson
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:31 AM
Yes Ash! Very true - our first barn is now the Blue Route! I remember being very distressed when it was torn down! Boy, was that a long time ago! I feel old . . .

JB
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:37 AM
Oh, and the Boyce farm down the road is now Journey Back Farm. They had a bay TB gelding named Journey Back - not sure which was named first http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif They called him JB. Yep, the very same horse! When he left Journey Back Farm though he wasn't allowed to keep that name, for obvious reasons. The woman who bought him, whom I helped, and I came up with his present name - Journey Bound - so she could still call him JB. A few months later I bought him from her. And the rest is history http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

joliemom
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JB:
There is a dirt road that runs around the inner perimeter that used to be quite nice to ride on, but not isn't http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Captain Jackson (yes, really!) used to train his pacers and trotters around that road for many years. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Was he the guy who used to come in during the winter months? I do remember someone driving a sulky out there 30 years ago.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>As far as I know, the May A show is still just that - it's listed on the NCHJA site as being such. It is always fun to watch the Derby under the tent with the food http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Does this sound like a NC COTH function, or what?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I've never gotten to jump the stone wall, and keep saying I'm going to clear it out of all the grown up trees and do that before it's too late, but who knows...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm good with a pair of loppers, just say when and I'll be there.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>joliemom - maybe we did! Mrs. Thurston was so awesome! I just loved her. She died looking exactly like I'd always known her, which I thought was pretty cool. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If you could survive her lessons, you were meant to ride. I can still hear her lamenting our dreadful form, and acknowledging that if we fell off, our horses would do everything equinely possible not to step on us and thus sully their hooves. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Mrs. Thomas isn't in the best of health now, but she's still a strong-willed woman!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's a shame, she's such a lovely woman, did you know she rode in the Good Hands class at the Garden in the olden days?

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

lauriep
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:53 AM
Little Bit/Journey Back

Claire is still at the farm, although I understand she teaches a lot from her car. I believe she turned 90 this year. There really was a pony called Little Bit, who was VERY ancient when I was there. Also Foxy, the pony who put Joanie on the map.

Joanie Boyce started Journey Back back in '74 or '75, when she came back from working out in CA - hence the "Journey Back" name. I worked for her, and indirectly for Claire, in 1977. Had a GREAT time. The barn is huge and nice to work in.

Joanie is back there again, after being away from the sport for many years. Doing well. I hear from her regularly and will go to see her as soon as spring really arrives!

Laurie

Holli
Mar. 12, 2003, 12:04 PM
SLEEPY-

White Oak Stables in Raleigh?

Email me, we might know each other. My sister and I had horses there many.....years ago.

Sleepy
Mar. 12, 2003, 12:04 PM
Laurie, see if you can come for the show. Maybe joliemom and I can drag Jeannette along with us so she can finally meet you. Don't forget the albums. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

Sleepy
Mar. 12, 2003, 12:30 PM
Holli, Check your email. I just figured out who you were. Senior moment here. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Would it have helped if my screen name was Dopey? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So are you riding these days? You must join our gatherings.

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

luckyduck
Mar. 12, 2003, 01:52 PM
Sorry to hear this...what a shame...we knew it was coming, but didn't want to admit it...very sad http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Hidden Hill Farm
Mar. 12, 2003, 03:22 PM
For any potential real estate investor, the property is located on the corner of relatively main roads. There's plenty of road frontage and it would be a great investment.

However, it would be so sad to see it developed. Perhaps there's a way to utilize some of the road frontage and still keep the facility running. I don't know, just grasping at straws to keep things going and make it affordable.

Canterbury
Mar. 12, 2003, 03:44 PM
It is sad to hear that. Sedgefield was the first horse show that I worked at in the south. I worked for Johnny and Parker Barker when the were married and at Lakeview Farm which was right down the road.

Parminch
Mar. 12, 2003, 04:03 PM
Canterbury.... email me .... I cannot figure out who you are but you probably can tell from my name who I am... PM now PB then.
As for the proprerty... I do not think the hunt owns it. It was owned by Claire Boyce and several other of the older members of the hunt. There were about three or four of them... unless the hunt bought it recently.

Parminch
Mar. 12, 2003, 04:08 PM
Canterbury.. Duh!!!!... I figured it out!

Canterbury
Mar. 12, 2003, 04:16 PM
PM, you only walked past me everyday on the way to the ring in Ocala! Glad you figured it out though.

blue52
Mar. 12, 2003, 04:18 PM
NOOO NOT SEDGFIELD!!!!!

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RodeoGirl
Mar. 12, 2003, 05:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Canterbury:
PM, you only walked past me everyday on the way to the ring in Ocala! Glad you figured it out though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hummmm, I haven't figured it out yet...Before my time maybe?

Finzean
Mar. 12, 2003, 05:45 PM
lauriep - or anyone else who might remember...wasn't the original Little Bit actually in what is now Phase (enter Roman numeral here) of the Sedgefield housing development? Not the barn Joanie has now...

Do you remember the Farnley Sesame pony? She was still around the last time I saw Claire...of course that was 6-7 years ago...talk about having senior moments, I have no concept of time this evening. And it wouldn't surprise me if Claire was giving lessons from the car. We leased half a dozen stalls and kept a few horses out at Journey Back the year before Joanie moved back. It is a great barn and we really enjoyed the nice facilities.

And now that I'm thinking about all of my conversations with Claire about the way things used to be...I remember her telling me something about the owners of the stable property (her being one of them) being at odds over maintaining the property, painting the barn in particular. Two of the other owners I know... I'm only surprised the property hasn't been sold sooner.

It's sad - does anybody (RodeoGirl?) have any idea what will become of the shows? Are they fini forever?

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

montegobay
Mar. 12, 2003, 05:51 PM
Though Sedgefield could use lots of renovating, it would be so sad to see it go. It's such a fun and friendly place to show! It's been such a fixture in this area for sooooooooooo long.

When you think about it, though, that entire area is seeing a whole new type of growth. The HUGE Grandover project is right down the road, and they just put in that new drug store across the street (hey, it's convenient http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif). I remember when your only choice around there was Circle K! However, I think that would be a great place to put a horse show complex. It's right by the highway for easy access, its pretty close to all the new hotels on Wendover, and it could probably attract some pretty big crowds. I guess we get to wait and see.

RodeoGirl
Mar. 12, 2003, 06:08 PM
I think Sesame finally passed away, she was very old. She was adorable!!!

As for the horse shows they are definitely still on.

The annual A show has not been downgraded to a C show.

Also, Johnny and Martin are looking at some different ways to keep the Greensboro shows going if Sedgefield is sold.

Baileybff
Mar. 12, 2003, 06:52 PM
I will be way sad if Sedgefield is no more http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif. We travel over 4 hours to get there and love it so much. Yes, it is a bit run down. However, they hold wonderful shows. I too tend to show my best there. I would really hate to see it turned into something else. It was sad enough to see the big huge grocery store and eckerds move in across the street. I hope somehow Martin figures out how to keep it!! (BTW~ we actually have tried to talk Martin into getting the C shows recognized by SCHJA. We think that would be great!!)
Fingers crossed that they can find a way to keep it going!!!
Nat http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

"A horse is a horse of course of course"...This person obviously never met MY horse!

Rapid Run
Mar. 12, 2003, 07:03 PM
i believe that the barn my parents took me to as a horse crazy child in a nonhorsy family was Little Bit - and the first pony I showed in Walk Trot wasittle Bit himself! I am searching for a picture - it was in '68 or '69. Can't believe that that barn is still around in some way!

wesierobb
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:14 PM
OK, Holli, if I say "L'il General", would I be getting close??

wesierobb
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:15 PM
OK, Holli, if I say "L'il General", would I be getting close??

wesierobb
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:16 PM
OK, Holli...if I said "L'il General" would I be getting close??

wesierobb
Mar. 12, 2003, 11:17 PM
Ok, Holli, if I said "L'il General" would I be getting close?

Sleepy
Mar. 13, 2003, 04:51 AM
Well no, Wesie. Big sis' horse was Tiperillo Teddy. Don't remember Holli's pony's name. I ran into Lil' General's owner a few years ago when she was in charge of a training session for one of our software packages.

Edited to say that Holli has reminded me that she DID ride General.

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

[This message was edited by Sleepy on Mar. 13, 2003 at 09:07 AM.]

lauriep
Mar. 13, 2003, 05:49 AM
Sleepy, I just might do that! I want to come down to visit Joanie and Bunny Bulluck anyhow. Was just waiting for the weather to be nice.

Keep me posted on dates and status of show and I will definitely try to be there!

Laurie

Holli
Mar. 13, 2003, 06:45 AM
Wesie and Sleepy!

You figured me out! Just getting around to cheking the boards, but already spoke with Sleepy via email! Guess I can't hide anymore!

My pony's name was For Pete's Sake (Pete). Also rode General. Actually, almost got him back about 9 months ago, when he was finally being retired at the ripe old age of 31. Unfortunately, was still boarding at the time and couldn't take on another horse.

Great to hear from you!

Sleepy
Mar. 13, 2003, 07:00 AM
OMG, General's still alive. Unbelievable!

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

almosta
Mar. 13, 2003, 08:16 AM
Hi, another White Oak person heard from - was there even before Sleepy. Like Sleepy I can't believe that Lil General is still alive - where is he now?

JB
Mar. 13, 2003, 11:36 AM
Is the Little Bit farm that used to be here any relation to Little Bit Farm in PA?

RodeoGirl
Mar. 13, 2003, 12:56 PM
Canterbury,

I figured it out...with a little help. How are you?! I haven't seen you in a dog's age!

My, this thread is North Carolina reunion. What fun!

Jen

Eureka!
Mar. 13, 2003, 05:41 PM
Wow...what a reunion this is!

I'm very sorry to hear about the Sedgefield situation. I showed there many years ago (1977-1982) and really enjoyed myself. Some of my best memories were at Sedgefield (and showing in the rain!).

Having grown up in the Charlotte area, I groaned when I saw the demise of the Mecklenburg Hounds horse show grounds. That place is now a subdivision with little houses on it. In its later years, the grounds became worn down, but again, there were lots of great times there.

I'm also sorry to hear about the demise of White Oak in Raleigh. White Oak and Sedgefield are similar in that they bot sit at the corner of fairly major intersections.

And I love the Li'l General. Suzanne Baker used to let me ride General in my equitation classes, and he was a great horse. Isn't he still at Ellen Welles' place?

"I get exhausted by trying to believe the unbelievable." - Stephen Wright

JB
Mar. 13, 2003, 05:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Future Pony Mom:
Some of my best memories were at Sedgefield (and showing in the rain!).
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Isn't that the truth! It is a requirement to rain for the A show there http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

RodeoGirl
Mar. 13, 2003, 06:22 PM
Yep, always the rain.

I loved it when the ice cream truck would come to the show grounds. Of course I'm not sure that all the horses were thrilled with that.

BustersMom
Mar. 13, 2003, 06:38 PM
Sleepy--- Bet I can talk White Oak lore with you. I hate to see the old Sedgefield go the way of development. I miss the old stone wall. I showed there in the late 60s/early 70s. Sigh

The A show sounds like a NC Coth Party??

Member of the Baby Greenie Support Group

Sleepy
Mar. 14, 2003, 04:46 AM
BustersMom, how did you miss the invitation? I bumped it for you.

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

7/8
Mar. 14, 2003, 07:39 AM
How sad to read this thread. My very earliest A show memories are of Sedgefield - showing in the grass ring - back in the fun days when there were one ring shows. My first medal win at a "big" show there, circa 1975.

For your old timers, thinking of that show makes me think of long ago Sedgefield/NC friends. Anyone know whereabouts or what they're doing?

Sue and Sally Coonrad
Sue Trout
Beth Goodrich (speaking of Little Bit Pony Farm)
The Finkels
Brooks Thomas
Bonnie Henson (did I understand someone to say their farm is GONE?)
Tony Albertson (still w/John French?)


Is the old Hunters Isle Farm (Pat Dodson's place) still in operation?

God I'm getting old. It used to be that no one would miss Sedgefield. Sedgefield, Keswick, then Devon.

Holli
Mar. 14, 2003, 08:06 AM
Almosta, Future Pony Mom, et al

General was (is) a wonderful horse. Saved my butt on many occasions and would "jump the moon" if you let him. He was with Ellen Welles and was being used for beginner lessons up until about a year ago (age 31!). She contacted me when they finally decided to retire him about 9 months ago. I have not seen him since about 1.5 years ago. I was not in a position to take him at the time and could not bring myself to go visit. His age was really showing the last time I saw him, but he was still the sweetest and most wonderful horse I've known.

I am told that he is now (or as of last fall)leisurely grazing a 50 acre pasture with several other retirees. Bless his sweet heart and may his remaining years be as wonderful as he was to everyone that knew him

[This message was edited by Holli on Mar. 14, 2003 at 11:16 AM.]

joliemom
Mar. 14, 2003, 08:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 7/8:
Brooks Thomas<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I saw Brooks about 10 years ago at a dressage show with his wife whose name escapes me, she used to ride a horse named Hello Jello. He said he no longer rode, but his wife did, still lived in the Greensboro area, and had a couple of kids.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Bonnie Henson (did I understand someone to say their farm is GONE?)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Not sure if she's part of Henson Farms in Summerfield or not, but I remember it as Cam Bell's place and yes it has been suburbanized.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Tony Albertson (still w/John French?)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I haven't seen Tony in year, last I heard he had a farm south of Greensboro.

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

buryinghill1
Mar. 14, 2003, 08:19 AM
I remember asking about the lower ring - I noticed there were bleachers or box seats around the ring. One of the old timers (I'm thinking LP!) said Sedgefield used to have Saddlebreds and Morgans and hackneys and stuff and they showed in the lower ring and people had box seats!!

And there used to be "ringside parking!"

I wish I had seen that...

Midge
Mar. 14, 2003, 08:28 AM
The last I heard, Tony was driving tourist carriages at a fancy shmancy place in CA.

Sue is a braider living in Wellington.

****
Just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

joliemom
Mar. 14, 2003, 08:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Midge:
The last I heard, Tony was driving tourist carriages at a fancy shmancy place in CA.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>GET OUT!!!! &lt;joliemom pushes Midge across the room in Elaine Bennis style&gt;

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

Meredith
Mar. 14, 2003, 09:30 AM
I realize that i'm showing my age (or lack there of!) but is the pat dodson that 7/8 is referring to the same one that has clouds harbor?

Sleepy
Mar. 14, 2003, 09:53 AM
Yes, Meredith, it is.

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

Midge
Mar. 14, 2003, 10:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by joliemom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Midge:
The last I heard, Tony was driving tourist carriages at a fancy shmancy place in CA.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>GET OUT!!!! &lt;joliemom pushes Midge across the room in Elaine Bennis style&gt;<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S'truth!!!! I swear! And be careful with that shove, I have a couple bruised ribs &lt;whine, whimper&gt;

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Just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Specks
Mar. 14, 2003, 10:37 AM
Henson Farms was one of the places Sedgefield Hunt did their hunter trials. i've got a great pictue of my pony and i there, right after we won the challenge trophy in '81 or '82. i had no idea it got developed, but it doesn't surprise me. After i stopped hunting, i heard that Adams Farm became a subdivision.
Is Southern Life Farms still around? They would sometimes hold the Hunter Trials as well. Or has every place in Greensboro become housing? (like everywhere else, i'm afraid).

JB
Mar. 14, 2003, 10:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by joliemom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Midge:
The last I heard, Tony was driving tourist carriages at a fancy shmancy place in CA.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>GET OUT!!!! &lt;joliemom pushes Midge across the room in Elaine Bennis style&gt;
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oops Midge, sorry we pushed you outta the room as I yelled "GET OUT!!" too! You're kidding about Tony! I took one lesson with him 8 or so years ago and really loved it.

Brooks Thomas and his wife, Susan, and their 2 kids live about 20-30 minutes from Sedgefield, as they have for the last bunch of years. Brooks has actually done some very good work at the barn the last month or two - he's cleaned up the pasture side of the barn, put up a fence and Leyland Cyprus against the barn, moved the sawdust pile to the road side, has filled in several of the gulley's that have formed over the years, has cleaned up a lot of the fallen trees/limbs from the winter's storms, and more. They have at least one youngster this year that he said they'd be bringing to Sedgefield fairly often. And yes, he does still ride! And I remember Hello Jello! He was in the defunct Hunt Barn for a while before they got their first place off 62. He's long since been sold though. CJ and Mike are so grown up now and CJ is such a nice rider.

Ben and Me
Mar. 14, 2003, 06:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>General was (is) a wonderful horse. Saved my butt on many occasions and would "jump the moon" if you let him. He was with Ellen Welles and was being used for beginner lessons up until about a year ago (age 31!). She contacted me when they finally decided to retire him about 9 months ago. I have not seen him since about 1.5 years ago. I was not in a position to take him at the time and could not bring myself to go visit. His age was really showing the last time I saw him, but he was still the sweetest and most wonderful horse I've known. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I rode General a few times back when I was at Triton! I was wondering if it was the same horse yall were talking about...He was so much fun!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif He was a good sport to clock me around! I was probably 7 or 8, and he was rather big, as I recall-Obviously he was clocking around out of kindness, not my great riding! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"Well it's a marvelous night for a moondance" ~Van Morrison

Eureka!
Mar. 14, 2003, 08:39 PM
Where in California is Tony Albertson? I'd love to find him now that I'm in California. We could have our own "misplaced North Carolinian" reunion during Sedgefield weekend...

I'm glad that the General is FINALLY enjoying his retirement. He's more than earned it.

Someone on "that other bb" asked about the whereabouts of Susan Edwards. I haven't seen her since she rode "Big Fun." She's from Greensboro, so I thought maybe y'all might know.

"I get exhausted by trying to believe the unbelievable." - Stephen Wright

Finzean
Mar. 15, 2003, 05:15 AM
To whomever asked about Adams Farm - talk to JB about the housing at Adams Farm!!! My best friend and I used to still haul in to the land on the south side of Mackay Rd. - Armstrong's we called it - about 10-12 years ago and go hacking. You could still weave your way through the power and sewer lines and finde some of the old coops on the more developed side of the property.

Last time I saw Susan Edwards (aside from on her front porch about 3 mos ago..) was in 1995. She broke her back I think in a fall at Groton House or somesuch eventing venue. Oh, and Big Fun...after riding the throwaways in eventing for so long, "Vern" was the first show hunter I ever rode! What a wonderful introduction to the discipline! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif And last I heard, Vern was at Richard Taylor's. Though we've lost touch over the years, Susan was a good friend to me. If you want to get in touch with her, email me.

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

7/8
Mar. 15, 2003, 06:22 AM
finzean,

Don't tell me Susan got into eventing?! I knew her from way, way back when - I mean when she and Tony A. were kids at the same barn in NC. Where does she live now? Do you have an e-mail for her? Big Fun is bound to be 100 years old, don't you think?

almosta
Mar. 15, 2003, 10:36 AM
Ben & Me, Yes that is the same Lil General we are talking about.

Parminch
Mar. 15, 2003, 01:06 PM
Susan was in Ocala! She looks great!!!!!! She seems very happy. I think she is still living in Greensboro but was in Florida visiting Sue Starling during Ocala. Even talked about showing again!
I am pretty sure that Gail Kneiriem keeps up with Tony and knows where in Calif. he is.

Finzean
Mar. 15, 2003, 06:55 PM
7/8, yes Susan got into eventing and had a really neat horse named Gonzo (aka Arsenio Hall) big, black and funny, she used to say. I'm pretty sure she was going preliminary on him. He was a blast to ride. Yes, she is still living in Greensboro and is listed in the book - don't have an email for her. We haven't kept in touch. And when I saw her a few months back, she did look great.

Vern's age, hmmmm, it's up there but I talked to Richard Taylor a couple years ago about the pony he was standing at the time and he said Vern was still there and out in the field munching away. I'm thinking he's around 25??

Did you ever happen to be at the barn on Stanley Huff Rd? Were you present at the pony cart incident?

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

JB
Mar. 18, 2003, 03:53 PM
Thursday, March 20, do or die day for Sedgefield. Keep your fingers crossed, jingle those curb chains, work that mojo, whatever it is you do. We need it. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

mickey
Mar. 18, 2003, 05:01 PM
Wow! G'boro old home week for sure!! All my most postitive thoughts with you at Sedgefield Stables, where I took my first lesson on Scout in 1978!! JB, I think I have a pretty good idea who you are,and would love news of Mrs Thomas and Kim. Sorry to hear that MT's health is not well and will send a card if you supply address. Parminch I know for sure and whould love to touch base with.......suffice it to say I spent MUCH time on your farm and with your kids and would love to hear how they are doing. I saw the eldest many times at IHSA shows before she graduated!

I am saddened but not surprised really to hear that the property is for sale, I was last there a year ago and stopped in, that barn still smelled the same and brought all the memories rushing back. I ride and teach lessons for a living, and think of Mrs. Thurston and Mrs Thomas almost daily in my work, reflecting on how I started. I still have a stuffed horse that Mrs. Thurston gave me after being run away with on "Sweet William" AKA Bill. I think she gave it to me because I did not cry when I hit the ground with great force. Also have on my wall a portrait done by Peggy McGuire of Sampson's dam, also given to me by Mrs Thurston, probably because Sampson dumped me and stomped on me more than once. My mother sent me to the 5th grade saying I had a riding accident and was NOT an abused child because I had so many bruises, but I loved it and went right back for more. Anyway, anyone who remembers Scout, Tommy, Cameo, Cricket, Overture, Rob Roy, Rider, Proxy, Counterpoint, Downbeat, Scarlet, Confetti, Sampson, Tony, Heather, Bill, and the wonderful fundamentals they learned at Sedgefield, I would love to hear from you at mmg13@psu.edu!

Finzean
Mar. 18, 2003, 05:27 PM
OMG, Mickey!! Peggy McGuire was my 5th grade teacher a million years ago! Does she still live in the same house in Guilford College? She's got to be up in years...

When I broke my arm in 5th grade (guess how) she drew a cute little horse head on it. I loved that little drawing and tried to keep the cast but those things smell once they're off and my Mom made me throw it out. This thread is starting to sound like 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

JB
Mar. 18, 2003, 05:39 PM
Mickey, omg, those memories you bring back with those names! I am sure we must know each other! Would you believe Downbeat is still around? And she was bred to Romantico twice and we have their 2 kids at the barn now. Oh, and Scout, that little big-maned saint of a Shetland! Oh the memories! I will e-mail you to find out who you are!

mickey
Mar. 18, 2003, 05:40 PM
I don't know about Peggy, I remember vaguely meeting her a time or two (Probably came to see me get stomped on by her pony, although I did win my first ever blue ribbon on him in the W/T!)I left G'boro in 89 for college and rarely returned, but I basically lived between Sedgefield and Lakeview (I could walk to both thank god or I wouldn't have ridden as much as I did!) It is mind boggling how the area has grown.....I remember my parents talking about "living in the county". I was at a show at Sedgefield in 97 and lost my dog, and was amazed at all the new neighborhoods as I searched for her! (She reappeared on her own 24 hrs later, and I am convinced she found her way back by the loudspeakers...she has been petrified of traffic ever since). Everyone keep posting, I am loving "old home week"!

RodeoGirl
Mar. 19, 2003, 04:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mickey:
I don't know about Peggy, I remember vaguely meeting her a time or two (Probably came to see me get stomped on by her pony, although I did win my first ever blue ribbon on him in the W/T!)I left G'boro in 89 for college and rarely returned, but I basically lived between Sedgefield and Lakeview (I could walk to both thank god or I wouldn't have ridden as much as I did!) It is mind boggling how the area has grown.....I remember my parents talking about "living in the county". I was at a show at Sedgefield in 97 and lost my dog, and was amazed at all the new neighborhoods as I searched for her! (She reappeared on her own 24 hrs later, and I am convinced she found her way back by the loudspeakers...she has been petrified of traffic ever since). Everyone keep posting, I am loving "old home week"!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Mickey, Its about time you showed up.
I miss seeing you at the ol' IHSA shows, how are things going?
(I'm pretty sure I know who you are)

Also, Finzean, I tried to write you an email and I guess it was lost http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I will recreate the masterpiece just as soon as I get a chance!

-Jen

Parminch
Mar. 19, 2003, 04:53 AM
Hey Mickey!!!! How are you? How are things at good ole PSU? Did you know that two of my husband's three children and both of their spouses are PSU Grads? I love to tell them about you being there now and what a small world it really is.
As for Sedgefield changing ....Yikes.. I only left going on 5 years ago and I can barely find my way around. Have not been back to the horse show yet... may try this year, but it has been too hard to go back.
I have some great memories from there however. How about when a young man who lived in the neighborhood and rode a spotted pony (before that was a cool thing) was told to jump a jump in the schooling ring that had a cooler on it and he yelled .... I will as soon as the dumb ... who put that blanket on the jump moves it. Thought Peter Doubleday was going to die laughing. Poor Andy had no clue it was on the jump for a reason.
Those were probably in your w/t days with Mrs. Thurston. Anyway it is fun to catch up on good ole Sedgefield.

mickey
Mar. 19, 2003, 07:41 AM
Ah, Rodeo Girl, you just keep resurfacing, I can't seem to escape you http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif So, where DO you live and what are you doing? If you are in the N VA area, I visit there occasionally, we could go out for a drink......how frightening that you are legal! Parminch, things are good here although my boss is sunning himself in Ocala and I have been dealing with the blizzards by myself! My horses have not been out in a month, which sure makes the lessons interesting. Our IHSA team is doing well, and we hope to be Nationals bound again if we survive Zones!The Spring gets pretty crazy because I finally have a bunch of little kids I am teaching who want to show, so I have to juggle the Walk-Trotters with the Team etc.

When I was in G'boro last year I had to drive from Friendly Ave to Sedgefield, and almost turned the wrong place because I did not recognize ANY landmarks! It's crazy. Is Lakeview still there? I thought I had heard that VN was using it? Also, saw SP and wife at wedding in Aiken in Aug, don't know if you ever see him but they have 2 kids now....WOW! And I am working on a head FULL of gray hair, when did we all grow up

joliemom
Mar. 19, 2003, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mickey:
I still have a stuffed horse that Mrs. Thurston gave me after being run away with on "Sweet William" AKA Bill. I think she gave it to me because I did not cry when I hit the ground with great force. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>She must have softened with age. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Also have on my wall a portrait done by Peggy McGuire of Sampson's dam, also given to me by Mrs Thurston, probably because Sampson dumped me and stomped on me more than once. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Lawdamercy, he was a gorgeous pony. Wicked but gorgeous. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My mother sent me to the 5th grade saying I had a riding accident and was NOT an abused child because I had so many bruises, but I loved it and went right back for more. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nothing stopped a kid from going to their lessons. We drove from Thomasville, about 20 miles south of G'boro, once a week for my lessons. I recall my mother pulling onto I-85 and stopping immediately while I threw up, then driving me on to lessons. I rode. Got back to the car, threw up some more. She swore, never again.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Anyway, anyone who remembers Scout, Tommy, Cameo, Cricket, Overture, Rob Roy, Rider, Proxy, Counterpoint, Downbeat, Scarlet, Confetti, Sampson<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't know whether I rode Scout, Tommy, Counterpoint, or Downbeat, but I rode the rest. Cameo jumped like a deer, straight up and straight down. Overture, heaven only knows how many times I showed her, and she's the reason I love dealing with opinionated mares. Rob Roy was the true gentleman, a sweet, sweet horse. Proxy had a fear of barrels. And I'm attaching a picture of me on Scarlett during a lesson, she was a fabulous little mare, too.

Did you ever ride Joy Farlow's horse Whiffenpoof? Or either of Overture's brothers, Maestro and Minstrel? They looked like her only much taller.

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

Parminch
Mar. 19, 2003, 08:43 AM
Yes, Lakeview is now Torihope and is owned and run by VN now Autry. It is still there although as someone said.. that used to be country.. we did used to trail ride around there and now it is the city.
Mickey, I saw your boss in Ocala and asked how he could leave you in all of that snow!
Rodeogirl lives in Columbia SC now!
Does anyone remember McFeast from Sedgefield? one of my favorite Greensboro memories was When Kendall went to Deep Run one year and he propped in the classic and her top hat bounced off and all of the toilet paper that was stuffing it came flowing out in a big long streamer behind her... and when she showed at Sedgefield a year after breaking her leg in Tryon and went to jog and it broke again... and as I was calling her dad to tell him to meet the ambulance and myself at the hospital ...she whispered... I told you a story... I did not tell him I was showing today! I really miss Kendall.
There are so many people who started riding at Sedgefield.. it will be sad when it finally does get sold even though they have been saying that since I first moved there in 1976!
Rodeogirl took lessons from Ms. Thurston too. We would put the pony on the trailer and go the 1/2 mile up the road so she could ride with other kids!

joliemom
Mar. 19, 2003, 08:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Parminch:
Does anyone remember McFeast from Sedgefield? one of my favorite Greensboro memories was When Kendall went to Deep Run one year and he propped in the classic and her top hat bounced off and all of the toilet paper that was stuffing it came flowing out in a big long streamer behind her... and when she showed at Sedgefield a year after breaking her leg in Tryon and went to jog and it broke again... and as I was calling her dad to tell him to meet the ambulance and myself at the hospital ...she whispered... I told you a story... I did not tell him I was showing today! I really miss Kendall.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I remember McFeast and the teeny Kendall, we both started at Sedgefield at roughly the same time, and were in the same class fo'ever. And yep, I can imagine her fibbing about the show to her Dad.

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

mickey
Mar. 19, 2003, 09:36 AM
Joleimom, What an awesome picture! Scarlett was my first ss mount at the SEdgefield Schooling shows, I have a memory of careening through a turn and jumping the in of a line at an angle, and Scarlett straightening herself out and going on down the line to the out! Maestro and Minstral were before my time, but I rode Overture for years and also Counterpoint. When I was there a year ago, Rob Roy was still alive and out to pasture! I can't figure out who you are but our paths must have crossed there!

PM, I am glad you are home and won't be seeing my boss to tell him I am compulsively BBing in the middle of the day! Although it is lunch time now! I vaguely remember Andy and being in total awe of him! I think I remember McFeast from a picture on your wall, Big flashy chestnut? I definitely remember Rodeogirl and WSB (the cutest pony ever) coming to Sedgefield for lessons! As for Sedgefield show memories, how about the year, probably 87 or 88, when there was a huge storm and we all jumped in the horse trailer because we thought it was a tornado!

Joliemom, do you remember Bart the Jack Russell that lived in the hayloft and dropped large rodents in to the aisleways?

Well, better get out there and back to work

joliemom
Mar. 19, 2003, 11:04 AM
Mickey - can't believe Rob Roy's still with us, but then again, Jazzbo (Jazzbeau?) lived to nearly 40 I think.

I don't remember Bart, I left in 79 when I started college, but I do remember the enormous German Shepherds, Teddy and Bear.

You know this means not only a COTH party in May, but also a Sedgefield Alumni gathering, too.

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

RodeoGirl
Mar. 19, 2003, 12:45 PM
Mickey, you should have known you'd never actually be able to get rid of me! How is SP? I heard through Jack's farrier that he was apprenticing? Where is he? And KIDS?? Yikes that makes me feel older than the hills. Wasn't it just last year that we were all driving to school together?

I am in Columbia as PM said. I'm actually passing myself off as a grownup. I've got a job, an office, the works! I've got 'em totally snowed.

Sounds like things are going well for you. Good luck at Zones! WHere are Nationals this year?

JB
Mar. 19, 2003, 04:24 PM
joliemom, OMG that picture of Scarlett is awesome!!!!! I didn't know her in those days, only a bit later. Wow!!! Do you have a print of that still? I know the folks at Sedgefield who remember her would LOVE to see it when you come in May (you ARE coming right??)

No, Rob Roy is no longer with us http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif He and Downbeat went to live in a pasture together. He died peacefully a couple of years ago at something like 35 :eek His best bud was Sam the donkey. Sam didn't like to be caught for much of any reason, unless he was absolutely sure it was for grooming or feeding http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But the morning Kim found Rob Roy lying out in the pasture, she went to stand over him, and Sam went and stood by her, letting her put her hand on his withers, and they just stood there http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Downbeat though is still alive and kickin' http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I never rode Minstrel or Maestro, but speaking of Overture, how's this! (from whenthe upper ring was still grass) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://www.equestriangardener.homestead.com/files/othercritters/overture1.jpg
http://www.equestriangardener.homestead.com/files/othercritters/overture2.jpg

And Bart the JRT - what a HOOT! He'd get into the hay loft and catch rats, then wait for the MOST opportune moment and drop them on people's heads below, it was hysterical!! (ok, so not the most sanitary thing, but oh so funny!)

Teddy and Bear, wow, what wonderful dogs. After the GSs all died, Mrs. Thomas didn't have a dog for a bit, then she got a Corgie - Skipper.

mickey
Mar. 19, 2003, 05:38 PM
Now Rodeogirl, you old bag, don't make me point out that SP and I were taking you to elementary school (2nd grade if I remember correctly) on our way to high school (with a stop at Hardee's for breakfast!)Ha Ha! Yeah, he and his wife have 2 kids a girl and a boy, and live in Camden (MN has a daughter too but is divorced I think). SP did mention learning to shoe when I saw him, I told him he was a fool as my boss shoes all our horses (33 of them), and then limps around for days!!It's a bad habit to start no matter how much you want to beat on things with a hammer!
IHSA Nationals are in Tenn this year, Middle Tenn State was given a ton of money to build a new facility, so it should be nice. We have four regions in our Zone now so Zones will be the big pressure cooker, but we were 3rd at the Holiday Invit. this year, which gives me hope. We are a little weak in the Int and the WTC but are pretty set in the other levels so we'll just keep our fingers crossed.

JB, maybe Kim told me Rob had just gone, or did she have some other oldster from back in the day? My archaic computer ($150 286) couldn't handle your pix unfortunately. HOw old is Downbeat? does anyone still have Proxy's baby (i forget the name), and are Danny and Mandy still at the barn? I too loved joliemom's picture, what great position, George Morris would love it!!!

Joliemom, Counterpoint was Overture's son, JB and I both rode him, JB is he still around?

And whoever mentioned Mrs Thomas in the Good Hands class, as I remember the story, she was 2nd to Bill Steinkraus, and I think it was one of the dusty trophies that sat above her desk in the office. What a piece of history! Someone should sit down with her and get all the stories of she and Mrs Thurston et al, it could probably read like "Seabiscuit". That's the history major in me talking, Boy do I use that history major daily in the barn http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifDoes Mrs Thomas have computer access? I'll start the manuscript in my spare time. Think of all the lives they have touched, just reflected on this BB. Well I'll go before I wax poetic

Parminch
Mar. 20, 2003, 03:46 AM
Someone should try writing a book about the history of the Sedgefield Stables and Hunt and area.
At the annual NCHJA meeting Claire Boyce was awarded the Sandy Minchin lifetime achievement award and told of riding the horses from Little Bit Pony Farm in Sedgefield to Blowing Rock to Camp!!!! They rode one and lead one or two and had several tied to a wagon that Claire's father drove.
A very well known and renown vet...Dr. Rick Mitchell also grew up riding in the Sedgefield area. There is some great history there!

joliemom
Mar. 20, 2003, 05:41 AM
JB - those pictures of Overture brought tears to my eyes, what a wonderful horse to have taught so many kids how to correctly ride a course.

I'll make sure to bring the Scarlett picture, it's framed in my office. Mickey, George would especially love my winter coat passed down from my brother, but thank you for the comment. I remember showing it to Sue Thomas who was my instructor at the time, I think she liked our form over all, but had concerns about my hands. Can you imagine that now? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

I remember the picture in the office of Mrs Thomas, too, it's mind blowing to know how riders crossed disciplines so easily 50 years ago. Anyway we could have Mrs. Thomas out for the show? Or could send her this thread?

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

7/8
Mar. 20, 2003, 05:44 AM
Parker,

A bit off subject, but do you what NRM is up to these days? (Touchstone)

Parminch
Mar. 20, 2003, 06:17 AM
7/8 last I heard she had bought a farm in Greensboro. Not sure where but I do not think on the Sedgefield side of town.

Midge
Mar. 20, 2003, 10:44 AM
I sold McFeast in 1987 to Keith Powell's sister or sister in law. ...still 'propping.' http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

****
Just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

lauriep
Mar. 20, 2003, 12:02 PM
Parminch

Are you Parker (formerly) Barker?

Laurie

Parminch
Mar. 20, 2003, 12:51 PM
Yes, fraid so!

MHM
Mar. 20, 2003, 02:44 PM
Ding!!
&lt;&lt;huge lightbulb goes on over MHM's head&gt;&gt;

Sounds like everyone has fond memories of this place!

Parminch
Mar. 20, 2003, 03:05 PM
Another crazy thing about Sedgefield is that I have family (from 100 years back) that are buried in the old cemetary next to the main barn. My mom and I went and asked Mrs Thomas if we could poke around after we found in some court documents that family was somewhere in that area. Most of the gravestone markers are old and have been vandalized and moved and fallen etc thru the years but that was quite a revelation to me when I moved there in my early 20's only to find family buried less than 1/2 mile down the road from the farm and in the Sedgefield Stables property. Wonder what impact that graveyard has on selling the property?

mickey
Mar. 20, 2003, 04:55 PM
Parmich, I remember the graveyard too, (the history major in me again), weren't they civil war era, wonder if it could be preserved as a historic site? The whole place really should be preserved for that reason, although I doubt the Guilford Co Historical Society has $1.8 mil! Anyone out there want to bankroll me for a couple of years of research? I'll move back to the South (which I miss terribly, I get the willies everytime I drive back across the Mason Dixon line, and these folks can't make iced tea or bbq http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif). I could spend a couple years pouring over ancient documents to get the whole scoop! JB, any news on the sale? I thought yesterday or today somthing was happening? Keep us "posted" http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RodeoGirl
Mar. 20, 2003, 07:09 PM
Mickey, I'm sure someone would love to sponsor your mission. And maybe you would need some help? I could, uhhhhhh, write stuff down.

Speaking of NRM, has anyone seen NB (the other N).

Boy I will miss Sedgefield. JB, you have to let us know what's going on! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

montegobay
Mar. 20, 2003, 07:27 PM
Rodeogirl-I was just asking a mutual friend about NB the other day. She's still in Greensboro, not riding from what I hear, and helping hubby with his new practice (branched out on his own). AB is at NCSU, and I don't think she's riding, either. Everyone is doing well, though. I plan on getting in touch with NB sometime soon...it's been years since I've seen her as well.

RodeoGirl
Mar. 21, 2003, 04:01 AM
Great, I'm glad to hear that everyone is doing well!

Sleepy
Mar. 21, 2003, 04:46 AM
Parker, graveyards must be either preserved or moved. Authorities must contact known descendants of those buried there beforehand.

''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
- Pablo Picasso

mickey
Mar. 21, 2003, 05:04 AM
OK Rodeogirl as soon as I win lottery or find old man with one foot in grave, you'll be the first to know. You must have joined the real world to be posting at 7 am! I am STUNNED http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Does someone still have to find your clothes for you or do you have that covered now? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Well, I am off to turn horses out in the indoor (mud city up here, which is the warmer version of snow city!)

joliemom
Mar. 21, 2003, 06:32 AM
Maybe we could claim it's of historic signicance via the graveyard, so Parker don't let them move your ancestors.

Wonder if we could get WFMY to do a story on the place?

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

Parminch
Mar. 21, 2003, 06:46 AM
I hear thru the grapevine that negotiations are going on as we speak! Keep your fingers crossed.

mickey
Mar. 21, 2003, 07:01 AM
Joliemom, I remember one of the local stations doing a story on Mrs Thurston for her 85 or maybe 90th b'day, so maybe a public interest type thing with old file tape, G'boro N&R also did a story on her probably late 70's early 80's, so maybe the media down there would want some kind of story if they can fit it between all the war stuff http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif time to switch horses in the indoor again, it sucks I can ride 3 or turn out 10 before lessons start, so spend my day operating the revolving door!!

lauriep
Mar. 21, 2003, 07:50 AM
Parker, it's me, Laurie Pitts! Long time, old friend!! How are you??

Bunny Bulluck told me that it was you that told her how to get in touch with me, but I couldn't figure out how YOU knew!

Email me when you have a chance - lpitts@hsc.edu

Laurie

Parminch
Mar. 21, 2003, 09:07 AM
Hi Laurie! sent you and email! You just never know who is going to turn up on these boards do you? Boy talk about OLD greesboro, Sedgefield memories...lol.

RodeoGirl
Mar. 21, 2003, 02:52 PM
Yep I'm definitely a member of the real world! Scary. But I still have trouble finding my clothes, keeping my clothes wrinkle free, picking my towels up off the floor, just to name a few.

Keeping my fingers crossed that negotiations over Sedgefield turn out in our favor!

mickey
Mar. 21, 2003, 03:05 PM
RodeoGirl, I have a feeling you manage to look fairly put together when the situation calls for it, anyone who can sprint from a still moving Chevette to the 2nd grade like you did must be reasonably motivated on some level http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Parminch or JB, any word here at the end of the day on the Sedgefield Situation?

JB
Mar. 21, 2003, 07:23 PM
I spoke to Brooks this afternoon and he had not heard anything, nor had anyone at the barn. The suspense is killing me!

JB
Mar. 23, 2003, 05:46 PM
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif still no news!

montegobay
Mar. 23, 2003, 05:50 PM
JB-I was just getting ready to give this thread a bump and see if anyone had any news. I think we are all not so patiently waiting. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif I take it next weekends show will still be on, though (?).

RodeoGirl
Mar. 23, 2003, 07:09 PM
Yes, Next weekends show is still on!

JB
Mar. 24, 2003, 12:23 PM
Found out today they are still debating. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif The really really bad thing is that if the church "wins", they want to break ground in August http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif Please oh please don't let that happen!

RodeoGirl
Mar. 24, 2003, 02:59 PM
Refresh my memory, what exactly is the church planning on doing with the land if they buy it??

JB
Mar. 24, 2003, 05:08 PM
Church, K-12 school, and some other stuff http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

montegobay
Mar. 24, 2003, 05:21 PM
And while we are at it...what is keeping the church from purchasing the land? Is it just negotiations on price and things of that nature?

mickey
Mar. 24, 2003, 05:48 PM
JB, if the church doesn't buy it is it still on the market? I can certainly remember uttering some quick prayers on that property, but would hate to see it become a "megachurch". There was a story on one of the prime time news mags about these churches that have thousands of members, their own starbucks and McDonalds etc (all the joys of the bible belt), schools, multiple services at the same time, mass "worship" in the technology age kind of deal... Yikes. What church is negotiating? I think I would rather see it be a housing development if it can not remain as is, at least maybe kids would ride their bikes, trees and gardens etc (Obviously I have an idyllic, not realistic idea of a housing development). I would also hope that the option is still there for someone to buy it and keep the horse shows, barn, etc. going. Is that the case?

JB
Mar. 25, 2003, 07:51 AM
The negotiations are between 2 parties, with the owning board voting on who to sell it to, as near as I know. So I suppose the board could decide to sell it to neither of them, in which case I presume it would still be on the market.

montegobay
Mar. 25, 2003, 02:45 PM
And would this other party happen to be horse related?

JB
Mar. 25, 2003, 05:12 PM
why yes, it would indeed! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

montegobay
Mar. 26, 2003, 03:22 PM
Bueller? Bueller?

Any word today?

JB
Mar. 26, 2003, 04:25 PM
Nada http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

mickey
Mar. 27, 2003, 05:32 PM
Still Nada? My fingers are crossed.....

Finzean
Mar. 27, 2003, 07:35 PM
Not that this is worth anything but when the blacksmith was here today I asked if he was going to be on the show grounds in May and had he heard about the negotiations/sell of the property. He says, yeah whatever, it's been for sale forever. There was even a contract on it once before and I can't remember what he said was the reason, but it didn't close. Seems to me this is maybe the real deal but he says he'll believe it's sold only when all the ink is dry!! Maybe there is hope the sale won't go through but he brought up a good point in mentioning that as he understood it, there could be no new construction on the property, only existing structures could be repaired. If this is the case I would assume the show stabling which could use some attention (a bulldozer as someone mentioned a few pages back) can never be replaced? And as to renovations, if the current negotiations crash & burn and the property stays with the current owners, I wouldn't be holding my breath for improvements to happen since it seems like they've been warranted for quite some time.

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

JB
Mar. 28, 2003, 06:57 AM
Yes, fin, this place has supposedly been for sale for a long time, but this is the first time it's ever been actually listed with a realtor (according to what I was told) and to my knowledge the first time (at least in a long time) it's been surveyed (the Church came and did that a few weeks ago). IF it is actually sold, and not for horse purposes, some of the contingencies include being able to get the place re-zoned accordingly, which I'm sure WOULD allow for new construction http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif I will be checking on things again this weekend, so maybe I'll know something more.

Finzean
Mar. 28, 2003, 10:05 AM
JB-
I was under the impression it was an issue of "grandfathering". It would be great if the facilities could be improved upon, etc. I'd love to see the old place be brought back "from the dead" so to speak.

Are you showing this weekend? We are going to try and make it by for a little spectating.

Please post if/when you hear anything new.

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

JB
Apr. 1, 2003, 11:05 AM
Oh dear, a co-worker who knows some folks in the Church says he was told the Church got it http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif We haven't officially heard anything yet, so I guess I can still hope it's true. This truly makes me sick...

morningglory
Apr. 1, 2003, 03:03 PM
$1.8M doesn't sound so bad in the scheme of things. Too bad there isn't a foundation that would gobble that up and make it an equestrian center/show grounds such as Conyers, GA. Maybe there is a developer with a heart somewhere that may be reading. After all, I believe there is money to be made (and tax deductions to be had) with turning it into an equestrian complex.

RodeoGirl
Apr. 1, 2003, 05:24 PM
I have heard that there is a good chance that the party with an equestrian interest is going to get the property.

I can't elaborate further than that right now, but I will let you know when I hear something for sure. I'm sure JB will do the same!

RodeoGirl
Apr. 1, 2003, 05:25 PM
Oh yeah...

From what I hear, its just going to come down to money, whoever makes the highest offer is going to get the property. Of course that seems like a given.

JB
Apr. 1, 2003, 06:06 PM
Oh God RodeoGirl, I hope you are right!!!!!

JB
Apr. 14, 2003, 06:14 PM
2 pieces of very interesting information today - each on its own would seem to warrant that each party feels confident, but put them together and it's major http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif The church was out today with DH Griffin (wrecking company). Hmmm.... Johnny/Martin seem to be making plans to put in a schooling ring where the current old lunge circle is. Hmmmm.....

joliemom
Apr. 15, 2003, 07:01 AM
JB - maybe the church members are planning potential costs for the property? And maybe Johnny and Martin are doing the same? I'd like to think the church is tire kicking.

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

RodeoGirl
Apr. 15, 2003, 09:54 AM
From what I have heard, nothing has been finalized....church doesn't have it for sure, other party doesn't have it for sure. Also, we probably won't know for a few more days, maybe weeks.

ccoronios
Apr. 15, 2003, 10:16 AM
I don't know anything about Sedgefield - BUT...if you're serious about getting funding for it - RUN DON'T WALK to your local State legislators. Find out from them/their offices what State authority or agency would have access to funds/grants/$$$$ to help build this. You will need to have your facts together - with an attractive 'press kit' to pitch your case.

To do this, talk to EVERY horse show person in your extended area - and yes, I mean - gasp - horror at the thought - QHs, saddlebreds, Arabians, Paso Finos, rodeo, cutting horses, eventers, dressage - EVERYONE who has a stake in maintaining what I assume is a lovely facility. Would they be interested in having a show facility available at that site? What would they require to hold shows/events there?

Get big name locals - politicians, businessmen - if their kids ride there, their grandmothers rode there - you need them behind you. Find an event planner (no, not 3-Day type) and have a huge, well-advertised fundraiser event - with the biggest of the biggest names in all imaginable disciplines. Music (local HS bands), vendors (crafters) - you're trying to attract EVERYONE - not just horse people. Invite representatives from all breeds you can find - and make a big-deal presentation/demonstration - what makes each one a separate entity...

You get the picture - if the horse people in your area WANT this place, they gotta get together and GET this place!
Good luck!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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montegobay
Apr. 15, 2003, 06:22 PM
ccoronios-It's not about the horse people getting the money together to buy (fund) it, but instead, about what the sellers decide to do. One of the "bidders" has the funding and the best interests of the horse community in mind. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lucky2day99
Apr. 15, 2003, 07:50 PM
Ugh-- I have only shown at Sedgefield about two years ago, but I just hate the idea that all of that land will just end up with either a housing development or a church and school.

I always thought it was so neat that in the middle of fast foods, houses, shopping areas-- that here was a barn and show grounds. *sigh* Such a shame.

JB
May. 3, 2003, 05:06 PM
Wellllllll http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif it would seem a done deal that the place is staying! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I thought I'd announce this but let those who actually spoke to Johnny today give the details, as I didn't quite catch them. Woohoo!!!

montegobay
May. 3, 2003, 05:29 PM
Great news! Now who has details???


P.S. JB, I still need to catch up with you! My plans got changed on me today!

JB
May. 4, 2003, 07:18 PM
Alrighty, Lauriep, Daydream, Sleepy, WHO has the details??!

Yes Montego, we sure do - missed getting to see you this weekend!

joliemom
May. 5, 2003, 06:33 AM
This is incredible news!

So, Saturday afternoon Sleepy Margaret walks up to me with a big grin on her face and asks me if I've heard the news. Just that smile alone told me Sedgefield would remain. I can't wait to hear what Johnny and Martin have planned.

JB, remember, advertise for a volunteer day and we'll be out there with our paintbrushes ready to go to work.

joliemom, still can't believe all the old friends I saw this weekend. Hey Linda!

"Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead." Tom Waits

lauriep
May. 5, 2003, 07:20 AM
Ok, I talked to Johnnie, and although I didn't get into real details, he said that it will be official upon closing at the end of May, and the site will be maintained as a show facility. He spoke of adding another ring, and a lunging area. Maintenance and clean-up/repair of the existing facility a priority.

He sounded excited! Oh, and the church has withdrawn their offer.

Now, let's talk about this management! How can a show with what, 100 entries (if that) not be over until AFTER 7 PM????????? I could not believe my eyes! Apparently, coddling the exhibitors has been taken to the extreme. I was told that they started 1-1/2 hours late one morning while waiting for an exhibitor WHO HADN'T EVEN LEFT HER HOME YET! This is nonsense! It isn't like there are 8 rings and 4000 horses going (even WEF winds up earlier than this!). Two rings are not a conflict and a jump order needs to be posted and adhered to!!!! What are they teaching the kids if they are allowed to mosey up to the ring anytime they feel like it to show? C'mon!

Rant over.

Now, the party! It did come off and we had fun. I've got pictures of the attendees...

This is finzean

Laurie

lauriep
May. 5, 2003, 07:21 AM
And this is Sleepy...

Laurie

lauriep
May. 5, 2003, 07:21 AM
Daydream Believer...

Laurie

lauriep
May. 5, 2003, 07:22 AM
JB, who has a very delightful TB that joined us at the party, and lives at SEdgefield...

Laurie

lauriep
May. 5, 2003, 07:23 AM
I didn't catch the screen name of this person, but she does post on this BB; can anyone help me out??

Laurie

lauriep
May. 5, 2003, 07:25 AM
And finally, my apologies to joliemom. I have a "real" picture of her, but must have neglected to put it on the disk I brought to work. So I cut this little picture out of another - I'll get your legit picture and post it tomorrow!

Joliemom, who rode at Sedgefield way back when, and gave us a tour of the barn, all the while exclaiming "And this hasn't changed a bit!"

Laurie

JB
May. 5, 2003, 07:32 AM
lauriep, yes, you are soooo right about the coddling http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif It's ridiculous at best. And are you SERIOUS they delayed 1.5 hours for someone who hadn't even left HOME? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

There is a new ring planned, and I think if we hadn't gotten rain at inappropriate times over the last coule of weeks it would have been built already. It's supposed to go (last I heard, and it was actually staked out with flags) basically where the old lunge circle is - to the left of the lower ring as you are looking up the hill. A bulldozer sat out there for several weeks. I wonder where they will put a lunging area? I hope they don't cut down tooo much on the available open riding space in the pasture area - I know a lot of people really like to get warmed up there, gives a better reason to go forward then in a ring.

It was SO much fun meeting you all!

Finzean
May. 5, 2003, 08:22 AM
Joliemom- We are still laughing about the T-Rex story!!!

The unknown picture is "Fivestride" who lurks a lot but never posts.

I so enjoyed meeting everyone even though we were late arriving and had to bail early due to family commitments. We must do this again! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif See the SP Memorial Day Trail Ride thread. JB, I will be in touch - briefly looked for everyone when I realized how late it was and had to scram.

Lauriep....let's NOT talk about show management! I don't know enough to talk about it really but I just want to get my 2 cents worth in to say that whatever Martin & Johnny have planned, I hope it will affect turnout...as in increase it and the number of shows that are produced. Maybe change the Sedgefield date so it doesn't conflict w/Lexington.

...For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Luke 6:38

RodeoGirl
May. 5, 2003, 09:39 AM
I'm glad the news got to everyone in a timely manner! I found out Wednesday but I wasn't near my computer.

WIsh I could have made it to the party, I hope everyone had a good time.

Bottom line on the coddling...It helps the management make money, and if the management wasn't making money, Sedgefield would be a mini-mall. So learn to live with it.

lauriep
May. 5, 2003, 11:56 AM
The management can still make money if they enforce a 2-3 minute rule. Sure, there will be complaints, but when the horse show gets over at 3, as it should, rather than 7, you won't hear any complaints.

The local people who enjoy this show won't boycott it. And they will be better prepared to attend a show that DOES try to run a prompt ring. If there are any left...

Laurie

RodeoGirl
May. 5, 2003, 04:42 PM
I would probably agree, but I've seen this particular situation from both (all) sides. In fact I've been the one to try to put an end to the coddling and it didn't work. But I can understand how you feel. Believe me its frustrating to all involved, the management doesn't like to work until 7 either.

swansong
May. 5, 2003, 05:17 PM
I agree ...when you try to appease a couple of people you annoy the majority. No excuse for the show to drag like it did. However in the rings the footing had never been better and they really tried to make it nice. They do desperately need a course designer though.

RodeoGirl
May. 5, 2003, 05:47 PM
Oh well, I'm definitely not going to make any headway here. My advice, take it up with the management, they are easy to get in touch with. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I'm glad the show grounds will be around for a little while longer!