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Merry
Oct. 27, 2003, 10:23 AM
Sorry this is a little long. Hopefully it's entertaining.

Barbie, my Hanoverian Cow Beast, seems to have recovered from her near fatal surgery. She had "minor" oral surgery to remove a stone in her salivary gland, but it turned out to be a four-hour ordeal under general anesthesia which left her horribly infected and with pain/spasms in her hind end so that I couldn't ride her for 6 weeks! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Needless to say, her training schedule suffered.

Her first show back, about a month ago, she was Queen of Cows. She was a C-O-W. She just detested going back to the routine.

Went home. Pulled out Linda Allen's book. Did tons more flatwork and jumping basics.

Went to Showpark this weekend to tune up for the San Diego County year-end show in November. On warm-up day Barbie jumped like a million $. First round on Saturday, she pinned in a big low kids/ammy hunter round. I was thrilled! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But by the 2nd and 3rd rounds, Barbie had figured out she went left after landing out of one line, and right after landing out of the other line. So, of course, being the lazy COW that she is, she begin her old habit of drifting and being evasive going into the lines.

When I'd get her straight, she has such a huge step that I run out of room in the lines so my last stride is a "blip" of a chip. I so hate when I'm doing a 6-stride line and at stride 3 I can say to myself, "Oh hell. This is going to be really ugly." http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

So now, the year-end wingding show is not looking like it's going to be the fantastic whoop-tee-do that I had hoped for. It does indeed get frustrating when I'm so used to winning on my other horses. And plus, a lot of people recognize me and know me because of my writing, so I feel like I want to wear a sign that says, "Disclaimer: I am aboard a horse that's a Baby Greenie."

My husband took pity upon me and told me he'd buy me a nice horse that I could win on and idiot that I am, I said no! I raised Barbie. I broke her. I refuse to give in to the Baby Greenie Demon! I just need some moral support.

So now I guess I have about two weeks to concentrate on getting Barbie to collect/shorten up a tidge in her lines. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

Merry
Oct. 27, 2003, 10:23 AM
Sorry this is a little long. Hopefully it's entertaining.

Barbie, my Hanoverian Cow Beast, seems to have recovered from her near fatal surgery. She had "minor" oral surgery to remove a stone in her salivary gland, but it turned out to be a four-hour ordeal under general anesthesia which left her horribly infected and with pain/spasms in her hind end so that I couldn't ride her for 6 weeks! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Needless to say, her training schedule suffered.

Her first show back, about a month ago, she was Queen of Cows. She was a C-O-W. She just detested going back to the routine.

Went home. Pulled out Linda Allen's book. Did tons more flatwork and jumping basics.

Went to Showpark this weekend to tune up for the San Diego County year-end show in November. On warm-up day Barbie jumped like a million $. First round on Saturday, she pinned in a big low kids/ammy hunter round. I was thrilled! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But by the 2nd and 3rd rounds, Barbie had figured out she went left after landing out of one line, and right after landing out of the other line. So, of course, being the lazy COW that she is, she begin her old habit of drifting and being evasive going into the lines.

When I'd get her straight, she has such a huge step that I run out of room in the lines so my last stride is a "blip" of a chip. I so hate when I'm doing a 6-stride line and at stride 3 I can say to myself, "Oh hell. This is going to be really ugly." http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

So now, the year-end wingding show is not looking like it's going to be the fantastic whoop-tee-do that I had hoped for. It does indeed get frustrating when I'm so used to winning on my other horses. And plus, a lot of people recognize me and know me because of my writing, so I feel like I want to wear a sign that says, "Disclaimer: I am aboard a horse that's a Baby Greenie."

My husband took pity upon me and told me he'd buy me a nice horse that I could win on and idiot that I am, I said no! I raised Barbie. I broke her. I refuse to give in to the Baby Greenie Demon! I just need some moral support.

So now I guess I have about two weeks to concentrate on getting Barbie to collect/shorten up a tidge in her lines. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

Hopeful Hunter
Oct. 27, 2003, 10:43 AM
Two weeks in the life of a Baby Greenie is an eternity. Just work as you know how to -- quietly and consistently, with much creative language to describe the process <grin>. And then.....see what you have.

She CAN do it. YOU can certainly do it. Whether you both do it on the same day, together is the question. I think you can!

suecoo
Oct. 27, 2003, 10:49 AM
All I can say is, "i feel ya"!! Believe me, I feel your pain...... I own a AlphaHanoBarbie COW myself, and in the last three weeks has made me want to shoot her at least twice a day. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

SueCoo & the Redhead (a/k/a "Atlanta")
Life without horses is possible, but pointless......

RugBug
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:04 AM
Sorry to hear the Cow Beast is being a pig. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But, what I am quickly learning with my baby greenie, you cannot prepare for tomorrow by evaluating what happened today. Consistency, whether good things or bad, is not part of the BG's vocabulary. Maybe Barbie will decided to be fantastic at the year-end and you won't even entertain the thought of screaming, "she's green," at the top of your lungs, just so everyone knows you're not a horrible rider. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif They should have arm bands for those of us on greenies. We could all be up for the "Best Example of a Green Horse" prize and then our egos wouldn't have to take the beating that inevitably comes with piloting the young ones.

Good luck, relax and have fun...and when you get that collected/shortened canter stride, pass it on my way...I could use it too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[This message was edited by RugBug on Oct. 27, 2003 at 04:46 PM.]

Midge
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:14 AM
Merry, be happy you are at least still heading to the show ring. Midge and I are back on the drawing board, also with Linda Allen's book. (And yes I had to spray paint my circles on the field. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif)

Midge also had to learn to stay quiet in the lines and not bulge on the (especially right) approach. We did a lot of canter in, trot out for the in line adjustments and counter bending for the bulge.

Not that this has changed things at the show. She can now counterbend with the bulge and, let's face it, just because she can trot out, doesn't mean after the first line she doesn't know we are cantering out.

My husband also offered to buy the horse I showed at the State fair. Of course, he's not for sale...http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

RRB
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:32 AM
I am right there with you. The show season started out quite well, improving at each show, and then I didn't go to any shows for 3 months because of 3 weeks of vacation, and bad calendar management. I foolishly thought we'd pick up where we left off. Foolishly.

I would happily wear a green armband as a partial explanation of my drunk rider impersonation. And carry an empty bottle of Stoli for the rest of the explanation. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

--R

BustersMom
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:33 AM
Ooohhh, Merry. How discouraging!!
I can share a similar story. RSG was doing great. We have been doing a rated show a month and doing really nicely. Moved to a barn closer to home so BustersGirl could ride after school. He has a great stall and turnout complete with peacocks and pigmey goats. I figured GREAT...this will give us a chance to get used another potential challenge. I didn't anticipate one thing. Last Thurs, I was dropping supplies off at the barn. Well, there was BustersGirl tromping across the lawn saddle in her arms. Apparently RSG caught sight of a small pony pulling a gasp...cart. He went bonkers. Fortunately, BG was still leading him at the time. He did his Black Stallion imitation rearing up and pawing the air high above her head. Apparently she was a little intimidated. Managed to get him in the round pen and lunged him and was totally disgusted with the whole 3 year effort.

She says she is just tired of dealing with all his issues. I offered to put him on the market right then....she waffled and now they are best friends again. Go Figure.

It is so frustrating to have a greenie and a teenager.

Member of the Baby Greenie Support Group

Duffy
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:42 AM
Oye, I'm about ready to give into Gramento's urge to drift left. It does make it easier to fit his humungous strides into the lines. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

No - no - no - I will not give in! We WILL learn to still have some motor while shortening our stride - we will not crawl out of the lines...We will not crawl INTO the lines, knowing we'll have to whoa in them...

Not that I've been showing or plan on showing in the immediate future. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif This is just practicing at HOME! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

"B***h in training"

Merry
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RugBug:
They should have arm bands for those of us on greenies. We could all be up for the "Best Example of a Green Horse" prize and then our egos wouldn't have to take the beating that inevitably comes with piloting the young ones.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, now that's an idea! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thank you all so much. It's rather disheartening to watch this novice adult rider-- whom I really like, personally-- riding my old horse that's now about 25 just pack her around. She couldn't see a spot to save her life so I called out to our coach, "Hey. Draw a box in the dirt in front of the fence." Sure enough, the gal suddenly can ride to a distance. Fortunately, I still beat her in eq. o/fences on Barbie. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

But it's so discouraging to know you have it "mentally" but you can't always get your green Cow of a Horse to cooperate.

Oh. And dearest Buster's Mom, you should've seen me borrowing a bat from another barn so I could whack Barbie's ass to get her down the scary barn aisle and out to the schooling ring. I feel your pain.

Duffster, anytime you wanna show Barbie...

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Baroni
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:51 AM
Cheer up - you may have a naught cow-beast - but your husband sounds like a keeper.

Velvet
Oct. 27, 2003, 11:52 AM
Here's a sample of my greenie issues. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

At a jump he's seen before:

"Yeah, yeah, yeah, mom, just let me do this jump. I've seen it a million times. I'll meet you on the other side if you decide to stay on my back."

Or he does this:

"Yep. *sigh* I've already been here and done that, lets just go over it. *yawn* I need a challenge, can you make the next one harder?"

A jump he's never seen and has fun colors:

"Um, mom, I've NEVER seen that before! It's not a jump, is it? Maybe it is....maybe it isn't...yep, it definitely isn't!" (This said before a last minute duck out and near crash into the standard.)

The same jump the second time he sees it:

"Are you SURE you want me to jump THAT, mom?? Okay, but I'm going to make sure it doesn't come anywhere near me or my feet!!!!!"

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I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated rate.

SAS
Oct. 27, 2003, 12:20 PM
Duffy - I hear you on being tempted to give in to the drift to fit the steps in. In my case, it is a right drift. I work so hard at home to be very good about not letting him drift right. However, if we are showing and I know the line is going to be tight (due to an unadjustable step) and he wants to drift right, it's like - go right ahead, then hopefully we won't have a hideous chip. Must work on making horse more adjustable in the lines though it is so much easier to crawl in and lope out. No one can see that I am picking to that first fence - can they???? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JB
Oct. 27, 2003, 12:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RugBug:
They should have arm bands for those of us on greenies. We could all be up for the "Best Example of a Green Horse" prize and then our egos wouldn't have to take the beating that inevitably comes with piloting the young ones.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I LOVE it! If Rio ever makes it back into the show ring I'll have mine all prepared and proudly displayed http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Rosie
Oct. 27, 2003, 12:42 PM
Ok, so I move myself, my greenie, my daughter and her made hunter to a new barn. After weeks and weeks of lessons on my greenie (being observed by the new barnmates) I take my daughter's hunter to a show - EVERYONE was coming up telling me they had no idea I was such an "accomplished" rider. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif
He--ll--o, my greenie may be cute as a button but he is definitely difficult. We haven't made it to a show yet, although my trainer says it's time. I'm kinda dreading it -- http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Bumpkin
Oct. 27, 2003, 12:46 PM
Merry I was wondering how you are doing.
Perhaps next year, Elliot will be showing in the Pre Green's and Children's Hunters with his new trainer and the Bumpkinette.
In the meantime, to get him to remember he has a hindend, his Hunter Trainer, Nancy Green, has him going with a Dressage Trainer, Molly Martin.
Learning all this lower level Dressage stuff should work out.
Els is really learning what leg means, and to respond accordingly http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Pocket Pony
Oct. 27, 2003, 01:28 PM
Oh Bumpkin! Are you with Nancy Green now? I went to visit her when the soon-to-be-ex Mr. Batgirl and I were thinking of moving up there. She has such a nice operation!

"Both rider and horse must enjoy the work. This is the essence of success" - Reiner Klimke

Justice
Oct. 27, 2003, 01:41 PM
I hear you sister! Following my entertaining first show with Johnny, I sent him to the Jumping Festival and had Mark show him. 85 in the first round, thirds for the rest of the show... wow. I'm feeling pretty good about my project! So good that I show him at Del Mar, and on our one good day, I'm third and third in the AAs, which is quite a feat since he and Barbie have similar issues with going straight. Low and behold, Johnny finds himself a buyer... and then proceeds to not pass the vet. Goodbye brilliant prospect, hello money pit. If one more person tells me, "that's horses!" I may have use a bat on them!

Madison
Oct. 27, 2003, 01:41 PM
Oh, Merry what a road you are travelling. I must say the green armband is a smashing idea -- a show of solidarity, AND an explanation you don't have to explain.

What is it with the greenie's and resisting the concept of compressing that stride so that you aren't running over the last jump in the line??? This weekend Madison very nearly left out a stride in a 5-stride UPHILL line, and you can imagine how I had to ride the downhill lines http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif And then I saw someone on an older packer go in and actually do the adds!! didn't know that was physically possible after the way my trips felt . . . lol.

And then there was the weekend before where, after doing 2 near-perfect trips, we go in for a third trip, and canter into the outside line only to have Madison land from fence one and go "OMG there are PEOPLE outside the ring" and proceed to draw a triangle in the sand between fence one and fence two - three strides bulging out right, then three strides left to jump out (which , by the way, is the one time you are really glad for that open stride -- we made it out without doing the adds!).

So, you are not alone in the greenie moments, though it is sounding like you have had to endure more than your share lately, particularly given the trauma Barbie went through. So, clearly it is sounding like she will inexplicably decide to be perfect at the finals show since that is what you will least expect.

Good luck!

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Lord Helpus
Oct. 27, 2003, 01:46 PM
Merry, Merry, Merry. Don't give up. You are an inspiration to us all! So far you have inspired me to give up on both Warren AND his evil twin, and to Send G off to the trainer for a little respect (of my leg) training. You have also inspired me to stop showing, since I, like you, HATE making a fool of myself in public.

You should become an Evangelical Preacher, what with all this inspirin' you do.

Merry
Oct. 27, 2003, 03:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lord Helpus:
I, like you, HATE making a fool of myself in public.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh, you wanna know how I made a FOOL of myself this weekend with Barbie? Uh, that would've been on Friday, warm-up day. As soon as I put her on the lunge line she erupted with the hi-ho Silver thing. Then, as she's loping around on the line, another trainer's horse that was bitted up got tangled up in its side reins and started running backwards towards Barbie, threatening to flip over. Barbie takes off, in my tack, dragging my new, bright white rope lunge line behind her... all the way from one end of Showpark to the other, past three arenas of people warming up. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Truly, Madison, it comforts me that I am not the only one who doesn't yet comprehend why it's a "good thing" to have a horse that canters with a 14 ft. stride. Pick into a line, jump in fine to a line, jump in moving up, it doesn't matter. That last stride always seems to come with the realization that, "Gee. I could easily leave out a stride."

Justice, I feel your pain. Let us pray. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

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My state's governor can beat up your state's governor.

Peggy
Oct. 27, 2003, 03:11 PM
Really like the green armband thing. It could be really useful in the warmup ring when BG fails to steer and crashes into BNT or develops a sudden magnetic attraction for another horse. All you'd have to do is point to your armband and do one of those dismissive L.A. "sorry I just cut you off handwave things."

And I'm not even jumping mine myself; just setting (and resetting) jumps while alternately empathizing and apologizing.

RugBug
Oct. 27, 2003, 03:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Peggy:
Really like the green armband thing. It could be really useful in the warmup ring when BG fails to steer and crashes into BNT or develops a sudden magnetic attraction for another horse. All you'd have to do is point to your armband and do one of those dismissive L.A. "sorry I just cut you off handwave things."

And I'm not even jumping mine myself; just setting (and resetting) jumps while alternately empathizing and apologizing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I was left on the rail watching as my greenie negotiated his first warm-up ring with my trainer. I don't know how many times I muttered "He's really, really green," to people standing on the rail, gasping at them, because his steering disappeared because, oh, I don't know, a little yippy dog with a scary bandana happened by or the sand in the ring changed color in one spot, etc.

That armband would be good for everyone involved. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Rosie
Oct. 27, 2003, 03:27 PM
Or how about the lesson Sat. where after successfully navigating down a line (correct no. of strides, fairly even, etc) we get ready to do the hop, hop, hop like a bunny lead change BUT amazingly....I ask, he changes LIKE A NORMAL HORSE ! !!! It immediately registers that we have crossed over into new terrain.....an effortless lead change! I whoop in celebration, startle him - he trips and nearly falls down. The spectators are nearly falling down themselves from laughing so hard and my trainer....well, he just shakes his head. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

LaurieB
Oct. 27, 2003, 03:44 PM
Merry, I would like to say that I feel your pain, but I don't. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

My pain is entirely different. I have the "until we relax and open up that stride, don't those lines look loooooong" kind of pain. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Tess and I never have to worry about the lines coming up too short. It's those sudden, unexpected adds (or worse, half-adds http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif) that mess us up.

The moral of all our stories is: baby greenies give you days when you want to give anyone with a packer a good slap upside the head. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[This message was edited by LaurieB on Oct. 27, 2003 at 07:29 PM.]

DMK
Oct. 27, 2003, 04:19 PM
I'm telling you, the key to your sanity is to keep your packer handy whenever you venture in to greenie land. That way you have a fighting chance to remember what it feels like to ride correctly... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Mind you my "packer" has been barefoot and loping around in my old Circle Y saddle and a snazzy little S hack for almost 6 months, but we can still fake a hunter trot when the moment calls for it. Little does he know he is going back to work soon!

Call your village. Their idiot is missing...

Duffy
Oct. 27, 2003, 04:51 PM
Go Robbie! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"B***h in training"

Merry
Oct. 27, 2003, 06:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DMK:
I'm telling you, the key to your sanity is to keep your packer handy whenever you venture in to greenie land. That way you have a fighting chance to remember what it feels like to ride correctly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fortunately, I go over to my trainer's and jump my girlfriend's horse pretty frequently. He does a nice 3'6" course. And occasionally I hop on and tune-up my old horse for his current novice rider. But you're right. It's like supping on a sliver of chocolate mousse pie when you're on a diet of celery and carrot sticks.

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Beezer
Oct. 27, 2003, 06:52 PM
Merry whines unduly. The Cow is light years ahead of where she was last spring. Even our coach, who is very selective with praise, says she is making great improvement. She WILL get there. Merry has a selective memory ... she forgets how, just last April, Barbie did her Incredible Kneeling Cow Beast routine in a class not once, not twice but three times. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Eh. So Barbie has strong opinions. So she thinks she should have life easier. So she thinks she should have everything her way. At this point, I'd say that she takes after someone very near and dear to Beezer, but that would be harmful to Beezer's health! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Silly Mommy
Oct. 27, 2003, 07:28 PM
I have felt the pain. Not recently - still gloating over the Yak's first show. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I once had an EX-COWhorse BG who was trucking around like no tomorrow. The last turn coming toward home he started picking up a little too much, and I uttered w --- he SLAMMED on the brakes 10 strides out and I almost went over his head! I then incorporated "eeeeasy" into my vocal communications. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Stupid horse won the next class and was fourth in the hack, but missed out on Reserve Champion by 1 point. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Hmmmmm, my old sig line read:

"You have to be smarter than the horse (cow), and since that will never happen, pretend you are!" http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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LMH
Oct. 28, 2003, 05:40 AM
I think they should be flashing neon green arm bands http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif...so for example, when greenie suddenly decides he CAN'T simply CAN'T ride in arena with other horses, flies across said arena, into the cross fire of trainers schooling made horses (ahem http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif), and the refuses to MOVE, the neon green would be like a flashing red light in an intersection. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

EVEN better it could have a sound system so when greenie refuses to move forward past the flowers and such and starts going backwards, it could make that irritating "beepbeepbeep" noise like trucks and golf carts do!!!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

AND it could have the emergency warning button, so if greenie, heavan forbid STOPS, it could make some equally offensive noise, like a firing squad encouraging the greenie to jump rather than stop 11 times in one day! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif


Ummm...sorry..my coffee must have been a little strong this morning. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

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Marimee
Oct. 28, 2003, 07:14 AM
You guys can tack comfort in knowing that you are light years ahead of me right now! I broke my BG in July and had him boarded at my trainers barn for the first month. He was great, went straight, walk/trotted well, we even started to canter! So, I brought him home and have been working him in my small, grass "riding ring".....it's going OK, he trips over the divits, swipes me on the bushes (yes, there are bushes planted in the corners of my 'ring') and can't trot a straight line to save himself! One one hand, I CAN get him to canter, on the other hand it feels like we are flying around the tiny ring! Leads are still questionable! I'm working against the clock as we just lost an hour at night with daylight savings time, so riding during the week is now out of the questions. That leaves me Sat and Sunday, providing that it doesn't rain! It's also getting cold here in PA, which means that I only have another month (at best) to work him before the ground freezes and we have to take the winter off. I was hoping to show him in the hopeful hunters in the spring - do you think I'll have enough time to teach him how to jump before May??? And how the heck am I going to teach him how to jump when I haven't jumped anything in over a year?It's been fun to see his progress though!

LaurieB - I feel your pain! My last BG was a 16.1h TB that could do 8 strides in a 4 stride line!!! If you rode her well and rode like He** through the corners you could do the steps but it was WORK! I'm getting a kick out of watching the kids ride her, they are perfectly content cantering down the lines doing 8 foot strides!!!

My current BG is a 13.3 1/2 hand pony and I think he has a bigger stride than my TB did!!!

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Remi and me
Oct. 28, 2003, 07:31 AM
In the midnight hurs - I dream of graduating out of the greenie support group - then I wake up and go to the barn. Remi the adorable is doing wonderful flat work - then he runs right through me hands over fences. Back to doing grids this winter.
Cruiser is also some what of a cow beast. My legs are so sore from trying to get him to move FORWARD to the bit - but he is trying and I do see some improvement. He is not in "giraffe" mode as much as he has been.
My condolances to all who feel as though they are on the slow boat in greeni-dom. I think we all need to look for the improvements - even the little ones- and be grateful! I am. Both boys now stand still when I get on. I'll take it! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Vermont - where winter riders are real riders.

Merry
Oct. 28, 2003, 08:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Beezer:
Merry has a selective memory ... she forgets how, just last April, Barbie did her Incredible Kneeling Cow Beast routine in a class not once, not twice but three times.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah yes, I remember it well. That would've been the show at Rainbow Canyon Ranch, where no less than Anne Ammerman came up and said how gloriously darling Barbie was and asked if she was for sale. Ha! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Then Barbie goes into her first class, canters up to the first fence, all la-tee-dah-dee-dah, and then gets to the base, realizes it's an actual JUMP constructed of logs and flowers, abruptly comes to an investigative halt, teeters on her front feet, then, due to the Law of Inertia, topples forward onto her face, into the flowers.

Hence, the "incredible kneeling cow" position. I was so humiliated. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Gee, no one from Mary Gatti's barn offered to buy her after that performance. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

So yes, I suppose Barbie has come a long ways. It's just there's so much more "way" to go. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

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Lord Helpus
Oct. 28, 2003, 09:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marimee:
It's also getting cold here in PA, which means that I only have another month (at best) to work him before the ground freezes and we have to take the winter off. I was hoping to show him in the hopeful hunters in the spring - <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yanno, I was just talking out loud this morning on this topic. But my question was: "If I start teaching Stevie to lunge starting now, can I get him walk, trot and cantering before the weather turns bad on me?"

In retrospect, I think I know for a dead bang certainty the answer to my question.... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif

Halfhalting
Oct. 28, 2003, 09:46 AM
Well, believe it or not you will look back at all of this and smile http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

I had a 3yo, took him to a dressage show for his first outing... Warm up was stressful, he rared at a Friesan EVERY lap, he was totally terrified of it! The first class we went in and got a 78% (intro), yeah!. The second class we went in, halted at X, and he proceeded to reach his back hoof to his outstretched face and scratch his ear! I didn't move for fear of us both falling over! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Then he preceded to crowhop with his head between his front legs through the ENTIRE test because it started drizzling and god help the 17 hand monster that doesn't like rain on his pretty little face!

But... the judge mentioned his excellent balance and "impulsion", though we were nailed on resistance. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Well, now he is a top 3'6 hunter (with a different rider) and nobody could ever imagine how he started off! It makes me proud to think of the progress we made... So just remember, these things will most likely pass, and you will be so proud to have raised and trained your own baby!

I say kudos and good luck!!!!

OnyxThePony
Oct. 28, 2003, 10:13 AM
I get to go back to Ammy next year. I am going to NEED it. Why the heck do I not insist on getting some made packer who can cart my butt??

LMAO at/with everyone, B/C you know I will be there next year. I laugh now, but you can't know how I'm dreading the day...

LMH you and I must have the same sense of humour!! Not only a I ROTFL, I am actually picturing it as a viable practice!!!!!!!


Uhhh... I think I'll call it Bob.
BOB?? You can't call a Planet Bob!!
Why not. PlanetBob..has a nice ring to it..

Midge
Oct. 28, 2003, 10:30 AM
I take a lesson on a made one once a week. It has allowed me to say, 'Well, at least I'm not a complete idiot.'

We are going to age out of BGSG way before we graduate.

When I really feel down, I say to myself, 'Self, you bought a chestnut TB mare with 65 starts. It's not like you didn't know what you were getting into.' http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

RugBug
Oct. 28, 2003, 10:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lord Helpus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marimee:
It's also getting cold here in PA, which means that I only have another month (at best) to work him before the ground freezes and we have to take the winter off. I was hoping to show him in the hopeful hunters in the spring - <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yanno, I was just talking out loud this morning on this topic. But my question was: "If I start teaching Stevie to lunge starting now, can I get him walk, trot and cantering before the weather turns bad on me?"

In retrospect, I think I know for a dead bang certainty the answer to my question.... http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/uhoh.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ugh! the bad weather...or more importantly for those of use with greenies in CA...the lack of light. I just realized last night the full extent of what the time change would mean to me and the greenie. Our first trip into the indoor together was, how to say it politely, sucky. I have to say adios to those wide sweeping turns that I can do in the outdoor ring. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif (Am I allowed to ask my Secret Santa for steering for Christmas? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif) Put one or two other horses in there with us and it's going to be a gamble who gets out alive. Eesh!

EStieg12
Oct. 28, 2003, 11:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rosie:
It immediately registers that we have crossed over into new terrain.....an effortless lead change! I whoop in celebration, startle him - he trips and nearly falls down. The spectators are nearly falling down themselves from laughing so hard and my trainer....well, he just shakes his head. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I feel your pain! Went though it all with my junior hunter (at least then I had a great pro to help me!). I am getting ready to purchase a 2 1/2 year old Dutch Warmblood and oh-my! I am anticipating (and maybe dreading!?!) the months and years of work ahead of me. But then when they are six figure horses you can smile and say - yeah, I did that! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

P.S. Love LOVE L-O-V-E the green armband idea! When can we implement it? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

[This message was edited by EStieg12 on Oct. 28, 2003 at 02:19 PM.]

OnyxThePony
Oct. 28, 2003, 02:23 PM
I did NOT become a lawn dart today, in spite of the pony's threatening to make me one http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

A year from now I will be grumbling about chips and inconsistant steering and striding, and today's memory will just fade away, fade away...

Ah, it does get better, only in different ways.


Uhhh... I think I'll call it Bob.
BOB?? You can't call a Planet Bob!!
Why not. PlanetBob..has a nice ring to it..

BeastieSlave
Oct. 28, 2003, 02:32 PM
Oh please!! I've only got a BG wannabe...
My hefer is at the trainer's now (again). She had to come home because she was too stressed out and banged up. All that training was really messing wih her and she had her big HAN inspection coming up. I had to get hair back on her boo boos and some weight back on her bones. But she's back with the trainer now and I'm hoping this time he'll be able to get her to tie http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Seriously! My baby is a 3 y.o. 17hh Baby Huie that won't tie. I'm hoping she'll get over this soon and be under saddle, but right now she holds the distinction of being the only horse that has ever BROKEN a rope halter at my trainer's (the other broken halters and leadropes aren't really that important).
So, maybe next year I'll be able to apply for a flashing neon green armband. I'm sure we'll need one if things continue like this http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Kitti's Karisma
Oct. 28, 2003, 06:15 PM
I have a 4 year old 3/4 TB 1/4 Clydesdale mare, 16 hands. She is an ANGEL! A lot of people don't realize that she's so young and green because she is normally so obediant and unspookable (?). She does have her BG moments though..take today for example. I went out to ride tonight, thinking, "Oh boy, she's gonna be a SPAZ!" Because it was 40F out, and I hadn't ridden her since Saturday AM. Well, she definitely wasn't a spaz, more like a COW! She was downright pokey! She was really heavy @ the trot, and FORGET about the canter, she wouldn't do it! I have been riding for 7 years, on all types of horses, and my mare was being an absolute weirdo! No matter what I did, she just didn't have any..whats the word...OOMPH. No propulsion whatsoever. I checked her all over for ouchies, soreness, no lameness...Gotta love a BG mare.

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FrittSkritt
Oct. 28, 2003, 06:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DMK:
I'm telling you, the key to your sanity is to keep your packer handy whenever you venture in to greenie land. That way you have a fighting chance to remember what it feels like to ride correctly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


When I first read that, the circuits in my brain didn't line up right and though, "Hmm... a packer must mean a flask of some alcoholic beverage of some sort." http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif


Then my blonde moment ended and realized that packer = made horse. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Although a flask wouldn't be such a bad idea some days!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

-KC

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Midge
Oct. 29, 2003, 05:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PoloPony257:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DMK:
I'm telling you, the key to your sanity is to keep your packer handy whenever you venture in to greenie land. That way you have a fighting chance to remember what it feels like to ride correctly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


When I first read that, the circuits in my brain didn't line up right and though, "Hmm... a packer must mean a flask of some alcoholic beverage of some sort." http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Polopony, your idea is even better than DMK's!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Rosie
Oct. 29, 2003, 07:02 AM
Rugbug -Last night I had my first lesson indoors in a long time. OMG! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
After our stunningly good lesson on Sat. (outdoors in the big arena) where I actually felt like things were coming together - I expected to continue that progress last night. WRONG.
He rushed, he stopped, he ran out, he cantered when he was supposed to be trotting and trotted when he was supposed to canter - at one point he was actually going down a line sideways crowhopping. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
(ok, Merry, I have to admit he DID NOT fall down onto the jump -but I swear he pulled every other trick I've ever come across)

Trainer just had me keep going as she said it was all a temper tantrum - after 45 min, both of us sweating, panting, cursing (me), etc. he FINALLY remembered his manners, and did one line in semi-acceptable form. ( I was willing to end the lesson on pretty much anything better than completely sucky ) http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

I fed his treats to my daughters horse.

Merry
Oct. 29, 2003, 08:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Halfhalting:
I had a 3yo, took him to a dressage show for his first outing... The second class we went in, halted at X, and he proceeded to reach his back hoof to his outstretched face and scratch his ear!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Okay. You win. That out-humiliates me. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So. We're now considering "adult beverages" to strengthen our resolve? So when spectators watch us ride (haplessly) and ponder if we're slightly looped, the answer would truthfully be, "Why, yes. Yes we are."

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jumpsalot
Oct. 29, 2003, 05:07 PM
I will be handing out BG arm bands at the next Kaylor Field show. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Midge- PLEASE tell me you can't actually age out of Baby Green!!! Oh the horror....

Ignorance is bliss...
and I am VERY,VERY happy!

Catwoman
Oct. 29, 2003, 05:27 PM
DMK, you are 100% right about keeping the packer. Now that I am off the packer and on the green horse, I don't think I can do anything right. I thought I was developing an eye---wrong, the packer had the good eye.

My funny "first time" story was the first day he met a water jump. A BNT was schooling some students and one of his students graciously offered to give the BG a lead in. They went back to their own lesson, but had to come back to lead him OUT of the water. I guess once in he couldn't figure his way out. He really is a smart horse, too.

OLD A/O
Oct. 29, 2003, 07:06 PM
Today I realized I have Cross-tie burn out. While grooming my old guy today, I just loved him for standing still and enjoying the groom. With the OTTB's right from the track, somtimes I get tired of the cross-tie dance we do together.
I like the green arm band idea too. It reminds me of the red ribbon in the tail thing when I was a little kid. Our trainer told us to make sure we stayed away from the red ribbon horses.

Policy of Truth
Oct. 29, 2003, 07:20 PM
I'm right there with ya, Merry, et al!

I love my mare...no, really, I do...it's just, sometimes I want to kill her http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Some days she is angelic...floating along, trying to do her best...then, other days, she acts as if all this training stuff is foreign to her, and she wants no part in it http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Like I said, I really do love her...and I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt...myself as well (really low confidence), but sometimes it takes all I've got to just say it'll be better tomorrow.

I'm finding that m greatest challenge with my greenie is consistency. She can do everything I'm asking...and theoretically, so can I http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif. BUT...what she and I cannot seem to do, is make what happend yesterday, happen today using the same approach http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif It's as if this training thing were a game to her...almost like a bratty teenager who just wants to be difficult.

Some days I adore her, and others, I abhore her...but she's mine http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Justice
Oct. 29, 2003, 07:51 PM
Quote:
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So. We're now considering "adult beverages" to strengthen our resolve? So when spectators watch us ride (haplessly) and ponder if we're slightly looped, the answer would truthfully be, "Why, yes. Yes we are."
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Considering? My dear Merry, some of us are well past the point of considering. Mimosa's in the summer, hot chocolate and Bailey's in the winter. The greenies still act like greenies, but instead of being embarrassed, you'll think it's hilarious!

Merry
Oct. 29, 2003, 08:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Justice:
My dear Merry... Mimosa's in the summer, hot chocolate and Bailey's in the winter. The greenies still act like greenies, but instead of being embarrassed, you'll think it's hilarious!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah, but if you're me, chances are I'm already:

A) exhausted from not sleeping all night in the hotel, trying to figure out how to re-school my mare the next day

B) intestinally uncomfortable from consuming tainted horse show food

C) hungover from ingesting Valium and medication to compensate for both A & B

Hence, I do not need alcohol. I am already a foggy-headed zombie. This means I may not be giddy with my greenie's foibles, but at least I am far too oblivious to care! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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DMK
Oct. 30, 2003, 07:24 AM
This afternoon's ride should be interesting...

About 10-14 days ago, I sort of finally had it with the "I think I'll get distracted at everything" game. You know, the one that goes like this: ooh, look a horse - head goes up, rider fights to regain greenie's focus then 10 steps later oooh, look a person! - head goes up, battle is repeated until 25 steps later when we reverse direction and play the same game all over again, only this time you add the dog as an excuse to lose focus...

But this BG is not so baby greenie anymore, and I finally got tired of treating it like an OTTB greenie thing and decided this horse is just a little dense and not very bright. OK, I have known that for some time, but I tend to forget it when I am riding him, since he is a very agreeable, willing sort. Think sloppy, happy drunk... More than happy to do whatever you ask, but just as likely to forget what you asked 10 seconds after being asked. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So I went for the "unsubtle" approach to handle this. Lose focus after we have subtly reminded him that it is NOT an option and we stop, back up with nose cranked in between knees, then go forward with nose still cranked, gradually let it out and circle around and give him another opportunity to succeed. Generally repeat a few times before light bulb flicks on and horse thinks, damn, I better pay attention! After about 5 rides he is really getting the idea and managing to stay focused, soft, round and forward for the whole ride. So much so that on Saturday I really start asking him for some more extended work in a frame. And I get some very nice stuff. Tracking up so well that he yanks his shoe off... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif So he has Sunday off... and Monday (shoe put on late in the day)... then on Tuesday he has a previously scheduled appointment with the vet to get his teeth done. They really needed work, so I took pity on him and gave him Wednesday off to get used to the new chompers. In the meantime the cold front swept through...

So what do you think the odds are that when I get on him tonight it will be like our breakthrough never happened? I could have just saved myself the work last week and hacked him instead! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yup, packing alcohol would be a better plan!

It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others...

Merry
Oct. 30, 2003, 07:57 AM
You pretty much describe what happens when I think I'm being "nice" and give Barbie the Cow Beast a day off after a jumping school. The next time I climb aboard she's not only high, she's resentful that I'm actually asking her to work again.


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DMK
Oct. 30, 2003, 08:27 AM
Maybe not so much a sloppy, happy drunk as a mean, resentful drunk? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

(both come standard with weaving their way down the lines!)

It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others...

RugBug
Oct. 30, 2003, 08:52 AM
ah, and then there are days like last night when I felt like I could wave good-bye to the green armband. We had to venture into the indoor for the third time, with some not so happy results the other two. And wouldn't you know he was a trooper? At one point there were 4 other horses being ridden and one being lunged in a ring only slightly larger than a small dressage court. Utter chaos and he handled it like an old pro.

Wanna guess what he's going to be like tonight? I'm thinking I should wear some body armor. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And DMK, I may have to use your approach to the short attention span. Seriously, is the giraffe neck really necessary because the pony in the adjoining pasture took two steps forward and is now in a different spot? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I'm tired of being intimately acquainted with the backs of my horse's ears...but I did find three or four white hairs back there...hrmmm wonder how he got those?

EStieg12
Oct. 30, 2003, 08:59 AM
Ahhh... The giant giraffe neck - so much fun! But on the flip side - has anyone had the greenie with the hard-as-cement mouth that feels like he is going to rip your arms out of the sockets while towing you around the ring? And stopping? Ha! What's that? My previous horse Levi and I prefered to run head on into the walls of the indoor arena. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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Cassiopeia
Oct. 30, 2003, 09:30 AM
Not so much the hard-as-cement mouth as the ability to pull on the left rein until my left bicep aches and I want to scream. I don't even understand the physiology of how she can put that much pressure on the left rein and not the right. And don't knock the walls of the arena - in our world, they're a valuable training tool! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

This is my first FOTT (fresh-off-the-track) TB and I thought I would be using the knowledge and abilities I have gained over the years to teach her. But no, instead she constantly reveals the flaws in my balance and aids that the more broke horses just ignored or compensated for, and she (with my trainer) has taught me way more than I ever would have thought. I just have to keep reminding myself that the learning is a good thing on those days when I think to myself, "I don't even deserve to be riding this horse, I'm going to ruin her!"

On the plus side, it's fun to have so many things that weren't all that interesting before become new again - when my trainer rode her in her first crossrails class at a local schooling show I was beaming like a proud mother and snapping tons of pictures. People probably thought I was nuts, but who cares!

"It is not possible to conquer a horse by force. How then a nation?" (White Horse Fei Fei)
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Merry
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EStieg12:
And stopping? Ha! What's that? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You've just explained why it's absolutely foolhardy to ride a baby greenie in a medal class. Can you envision the work-off?

Judge: "Please trot fence 2, canter fence 5, halt, then trot fence 6."

Rider: "Uh, excuse me, sir. But did you not notice the faint scent of alcohol on my breath and my green armband? We do not halt. Period."

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Delighted
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:12 AM
Whoo!! Mine can finally be considered part of the Baby Green group!! Before, he was more of the "Well, I've ridden him a few times.." group - with two trained horses sitting in the barn, horses who actually listen and respond and know how to go so I don't have to actually ride, William the Wonder Greenie wasn't always on the top of the list.

He's done two over fences shows now - one of which, we actually managed to NOT jump out of the ring. Whoo!! He has this huge monster stride, but if I sit up and ride, and not do my ever-so-wonderful stealth picking to the fence, he figures himself out and gets out nicely. I'm TOLD that we maybe left a stride out in a course, but we did it consistantly so I didn't notice (I have issues with counting.. bad, I know).

He does so well at home, nice and focused and doing this MASSIVE trot (that really, really hurts my back) and staying nice and calm. But, when we go anywhere, he starts getting a little distracted - he'll kind of forget that I do, in fact, want a specific lead, not just a random canter. But, he's a baby, so he gets major credit for all he can do - and I'm really, really glad he's slowly outgrowing his screaming phase. He only squealed two or three times during last week's lesson.

And, a shameless brag, but pictures of the wonder brat are here (http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=6656094911&f=7076024331&m=89460949) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Note to self: don't leg yeild into the electric fence.

EStieg12
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Merry:

Rider: "Uh, excuse me, sir. But did you not notice the faint scent of alcohol on my breath and my green armband? We do not halt. Period."

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_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha ha! I love it!

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Madison
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Delighted:
I'm TOLD that we maybe left a stride out in a course, but we did it consistantly so I didn't notice (I have issues with counting.. bad, I know). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Speaking as someone who managed to do the leave-out going AWAY from the gate a time or two in our first couple of shows (and nearly did one at a recent show going UPHILL), I can assure you there is an easy solution (provided your horse is like mine and managed to open up the stride enough to still get a perfect spot). First, you make sure no one who actually rode that course is around. Second, you show JUST that trip to people who weren't there. Third, just swear up and down that line was a long four, not a five, and then NEVER, NEVER let them see the other trips in which you actually got the five http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Should they start to get suspicious, just tell them you'd had enough mimosas that it really didn't matter, and point to your green armband!

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Delighted
Oct. 30, 2003, 11:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Madison:
First, you make sure no one who actually rode that course is around. Second, you show JUST that trip to people who weren't there. Third, just swear up and down that line was a long four, not a five, and then NEVER, NEVER let them see the other trips in which you actually got the five http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Should they start to get suspicious, just tell them you'd had enough mimosas that it really didn't matter, and point to your green armband!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL - Awesome!! Yeah, William has the stride to make it look like it was intentional, so I'll be sure to use those quick, easy steps to making it work http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Do I lose points if the judge doesn't notice our somewhat wonky striding, too? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Heyyyy, since William is now among the showing, maybe we'll be at the same show one of these days. If so, be sure to cooly mention to anyone who will listen that the outside line was in fact a four, and the other riders must have read it wrong. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Hey, if nothing else, William and I are always good for a laugh..

Note to self: don't leg yeild into the electric fence.

BeastieSlave
Oct. 30, 2003, 12:57 PM
Delighted - William is darling! He looks like he's putting so much into those little jumps. What a good boy!
I was thinking about you yesterday, and I'm glad to see the pix. I know you're loving being able to 'really' ride him - and show http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif What's the status of the rest of your herd?

OnyxThePony
Oct. 30, 2003, 01:41 PM
Forward?
WHY would I want to do that?
Look you stupid human, get off my back and leave me alone.

Ahhhh I feel so much better after reading through this thread. My pony (see unedited comments above she insisted on channeling through to my puter) and I are feeling the burn. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Oh yeah..and add that this year I decided to tough it out without an indoor (what..why..I..oh..nevermind http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) and we're currently experiencing -20s.. well my chances for sanity are obviously around -5% this winter http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

Uhhh... I think I'll call it Bob.
BOB?? You can't call a Planet Bob!!
Why not. PlanetBob..has a nice ring to it..

2487lyf
Oct. 30, 2003, 02:28 PM
Hang in there!! I got Nattie as a just broke 3 year old (when I was coming off a pretty much made medium pony) and he has come so far. We have had moments of brilliance and many moments of awfulness, but all in all, it has been incredibly rewarding being able to take all the credit for his training! Nattie is 6 now and he's recovering from WNV and was laid up for about 3 weeks, so Nattie lost a lot of his training as well and has reverted back to "Just say NO" as he hears on TV all the time... (haha). Needless to say, in September (3 days before he got WNV), he was finally starting to get it and be consistant enough to canter around a course fairly quietly at a show and get 7 out of 8 jumps good... and now, we're back to small gymnastics and flatwork... his quality of canter has back tracked it seems like an entire year after just one month!! ahhh I feel your pain... My goal is to go to our first horse show back on the first weekend of December (the December Hunter Classic if anyone is planning on going and wants to watch me humiliate myself... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

Anyways, good luck, be strong, and just try to forget that there is every anyone snickering behind your back b/c they will never understand your accomplishment and pride you feel just having your horse where she is!!

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Madison
Oct. 30, 2003, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nattie:
Anyways, good luck, be strong, and just try to forget that there is every anyone snickering behind your back b/c they will never understand your accomplishment and pride you feel just having your horse where she is!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And actually, there will be plenty of people who watch and WILL recognize your progress - I've actually started to have people come up to me and compliment me on how far we've come in this show year and how much my horse has matured, which is always much appreciated. So there are people out there who sympathize instead of snickering!!

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Merry
Oct. 30, 2003, 05:26 PM
Delighted, William is very cute. What sort of liquor do you consume with him? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I followed some of the advice here and today schooled Barbie Cow at my trainers. I purposely shortened the 4-stride line so I could get a feel for compressing her stride inside. I used two square oxers so I could circle, jump the line, circle, then go back again. Also, I jumped in and halted in the middle several times. Truly, it made a difference!

Good God, what if I actually get her schooled to the point where I win something next week?!? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Drinks for everyone! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

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Policy of Truth
Oct. 30, 2003, 06:36 PM
I think I need to train with Jim Beam from now on http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Madison
Oct. 30, 2003, 07:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Merry:
Good God, what if I actually get her schooled to the point where I win something next week?!? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We'll drink to that http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

We make Madison do the adds all the way around on our course at home before a local show with shorter lines - she hates that, but she gets the point that you don't have to open up that stride to get there, lol!

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malarkey
Oct. 30, 2003, 08:57 PM
oh my god, this thread is speaking my language. almost 2 yrs ago I took on a baby greenie pony mare, ALPHA mare, who had been under saddle for, um, a couple of months.

But, she's a connemara! so, she'll be EASY to bring along, WON'T SHE?!?

heh, famous last words.

ALPHA means we say "NO" to everything, doesn't it? It means coming up with 1000 evasions, it means that what worked yesterday won't work today!

Baby-Greenie alpha mare means we can NOT stand still in the cross-ties. It means we must try to pull our foot away everytime you pick out. It means we must spook at the mounting block even if is the 200th time we've seen it. It means we will NOT work in the large sand ring, EVER.

To be fair, she has made some really good progress this summer. But ;-) I've not taken her into the indoor yet this fall... haven't been in it since last spring...Tomorrow evening will be the first indoor schooling...

I thought for sure I'd be able to take her in the walk-trot classes this summer. No fekkin' way. (see rule #9, we will NOT work in the sand ring EVER). So, maybe next summer. At least she's fighting me less and less these days.

*member of the connemara clique and the adults riding ponies clique*

Peggy
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:54 PM
So, my problem is too much Diet Coke and not enough ethanol?

Ours have been hand walking all week b/c of the smoke and now the temperature has dropped about 30°. Could make for some interesting rides. Think I'll put off that body clipping.

Merry
Oct. 30, 2003, 11:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pacificsolo:
I think I need to train with Jim Beam from now on.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif Yup, our new "Big Named Trainer". He's a smooth, southern gent...

Peggy, I body clipped Barbie yesterday. Seems to have added a spring to her step, what with the sudden chill in the air.

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Bumpkin
Oct. 31, 2003, 07:37 AM
Malarkey.....too funny.
Don't tell me little, sweetie, cute Lark is getting away with things??? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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OnyxThePony
Oct. 31, 2003, 08:57 AM
ohhhhhh Malarky, we simply MUST talk.
My butter-wouldn't-melt, people-loving, soft as a lamb ABG Paint (Alpha Baby Green http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), solid black rabicano even (isn't that the easiest colour??), 3 yr old had been backed pony is trying to send pyschic communication to your conney pony. They want to get together to foil the stupid humans.
Mine does everything great but throws in the "must come to full stop now" rule.. rule #2 I believe. She's so very good at enforcing it.
She would like to learn more evasions re: everything else. Because one more 'Come to Jesus' moment like one of the dressage riders had written (an american dressage phrase I'd managed to forget about till last monday) and I'll have her on that one too. (yes! yes I will!!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


Uhhh... I think I'll call it Bob.
BOB?? You can't call a Planet Bob!!
Why not. PlanetBob..has a nice ring to it..

Rosie
Oct. 31, 2003, 09:21 AM
Merry - congrats on the good school. That little exercise does seem to work wonders on the big striding, "bold" ones huh?

Delighted, your William is a cutie. Looks like he'll be able to power over some big stuff in the future.

Lesson tomorrow - think I'll try Jim Beam in my water bottle. If things go badly I either won't care or won't know.
Since the last lesson, I've been mentally composing the "for sale" ad, didn't mail the THJC or USAE memberships for next year and upped the coverage on my disability insurance. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Rosie
Oct. 31, 2003, 09:21 AM
Merry - congrats on the good school. That little exercise does seem to work wonders on the big striding, "bold" ones huh?

Delighted, your William is a cutie. Looks like he'll be able to power over some big stuff in the future.

Lesson tomorrow - think I'll try Jim Beam in my water bottle. If things go badly I either won't care or won't know.
Since the last lesson, I've been mentally composing the "for sale" ad, didn't mail the THJC or USAE memberships for next year and upped the coverage on my disability insurance. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

malarkey
Oct. 31, 2003, 10:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PlanetBob:
ohhhhhh Malarky, we simply MUST talk.
She would like to learn more evasions re: everything else. Because one more 'Come to Jesus' moment ...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh I'm sure Ms Larkey could provide a list of evasions as long as her tail to your darling ABG Paint mare. She'll start working on that communication right away http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So, I must know: what is a "come to Jesus" moment???

Ms. M, hapless owner of Wild Acres Malarkey: "...if only you'd be good"

*Wild Acres Malarkey: "define 'good' I am good"

*barn nickname: Wise-Acre

*member of the connemara clique and the adults riding ponies clique*

OnyxThePony
Oct. 31, 2003, 11:00 AM
Ahh.. the 'Come To Jesus moment". A term I actually totally forgot about untill I read the words somewhere on this board this morning. I always associate it with American dressage riders LOL
It's that time when things get very, very real during those fun little disagreements over the rules.. ie, "I'm a conne-mare. I don't go in sand". VS. "Oh YES YOU DO"..
Or "I'm an alpha cute pony and everybody loffs me so I don't have to do what you say" vs. "You are going to walk forward with me on your back or else geddimit"
The light is going to go on either way. Ahh come to Jesus, baby http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Uhhh... I think I'll call it Bob.
BOB?? You can't call a Planet Bob!!
Why not. PlanetBob..has a nice ring to it..

DMK
Oct. 31, 2003, 11:45 AM
Yup, Bob, that about perfectly describes a "come to jesus" experience. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But I'm not so sure it is an American dressage phase as much as an Americanism - most likely a southern one. I heard it used loooong before I had horses. Of course another southern phrase is "I'm going to knock you from an amazing grace to a floating opportunity!"

Other variations are "time to get religion" and "are you going to do this like I asked, or are we going to have to find God?" All are appropriate training techniques for Baby Greenies (and older horses who suffer delusions of green-ness!)

It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others...

RugBug
Oct. 31, 2003, 03:25 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DMK:

suffer delusions of green-ness!)

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Delusions of green-ness...LOVE IT! ahahahahaaaaaaaa. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Pigglet
Oct. 31, 2003, 03:44 PM
Hmm... can I join? My new boy is 4. He's really a sweetheart with a good head, but I can tell its gonna take a lot of work, time, and patience to get to the ring. Or even close to it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I've ridden 10 year olds that acted like they were 4 and a just started baby, and 5 year olds that acted like seasoned competitors, but I haven't really worked with any that are young AND green. Luckily trainer (who HAS worked with many babies) is right by my side.

Wish me luck - I got him 2 weeks ago and he's been on stall rest since the day he got here. The first time I get on him should be lots of fun. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

-Nicole-

LittleWitch
Oct. 31, 2003, 04:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PlanetBob:
"I'm an alpha cute pony and everybody loffs me so I don't have to do what you say"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha! That is exactly my pony's attitude. He thinks he is so cute and funny that he can get away with anything (and he is usually right).

He is really not a baby greenie anymore but even when he was really green he rarely acted so obnoxious that it was obvious that he was green. Everyone thought he was a 30 year old school pony and they must have thought I was completely incompetent. Why can't that girl steer that poor old pony in a straight line? I could have definitely used a green armband.

Check out my barn's website: Hillbilly Farms (http://students.washington.edu/zeon/hillbilly/index.html)!

Merry
Oct. 31, 2003, 05:06 PM
For me, the "Come to Jesus" moments require a tidge of insight on the part of the rider, especially when one is mounted on a greenie. First, one must make sure the greenie comprehends what is being asked of them. Then the greenie must have any actual fears reassured. Then, and only then, can a greenie rider take a swig from the flask of Jim Beam and administer a "Come to Jesus" moment. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I believe the most recent call to religion came last weekend when Barbie decided she would not go down the barn aisle to the warm up arena. My, you could hear the church choir singing "Hallejuah" as I borrowed a jumper bat from Mary Beth Molt and whacked Barbie's fat brown ass down that aisle. Oddly, she never tried that again for the rest of the show!

Praise God. Amen.

Chef Jade
Nov. 1, 2003, 05:30 PM
Merry - its been so long since we last had a meeting od the BGSG! Glad to hear that the more things change, the more they stay the same. If it makes you feel any better, Dekster had some weird lameness issues beginning lat July. We finally got him all sorted out and he feels great. However, he has completely regressed. I feel like we lost the last full year of training. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

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Merry
Nov. 1, 2003, 05:50 PM
I feel your pain re: Dekster's regression. Barbie was absolutely certain she had been accepted into the Broodmare Program. I had to explain that no, that was not the case.

She is still not pleased.

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BeastieSlave
Nov. 1, 2003, 06:05 PM
I do believe that "Come to Jesus meeting" is very much a southern phrase. If it didn't originate here it sure has naturalized http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
A CTJM is the most serious kind of meeting of the minds down here, and one that definitely involves an adjusted attitude on someone's part http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Bless your heart!!

Baileybff
Nov. 2, 2003, 02:22 PM
Well, when this topic started...I felt I had no need to post. *sigh* After the last two days...I'M HERE!!!!
My green bean has been doing SO well lately. I thought we had moved on. After a few days off because of rain, I got on her yesterday only to have return of PSYCHO MARE. She absolutely was CRAZY! So after a good "come to jesus metting" I called it quits for the day.
Got back on her today and even though she had a "little" bit of a reason to be looky, she took it to a new extreem. Of course, I think she mostly was having fun at my expense. We changed the furniture around a little bit, which caused her to think the world MUST be coming to an end. By the end of the ride, she had gotten over it for the most part. Isn't it funny how they can go away from home, see new things and everything seems fairly o.k. Yet, you change one or two little things at home and all H*ll breaks loose, lmao~
*sigh* again, life with the green beans~
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Instant Karma
Nov. 2, 2003, 06:38 PM
Well, I was going to start a thread about my BG and his first 3'6 jump today... but posting in this thread is much more applicable.

I guess this whine is more about my bad judgement than SuperGreenie, but oh well. We were working on gymnastics in our lesson today. He was being a sloth due to this very warm weather we are having. So getting him through this gymnastic was tough, lots of leg, I shall be sore tomorrowhttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif He's being lazy and sticky off the ground. Yes, you could definately say he was being a C-O-W.

So after having worked through this grid beautifully at 2'6, we worked up to a 2'9 vertical in, one stride to a 2'6 swedish, two strides to a 3'6 vertical out. First jump he decides to be sticky, chip and we exit the combo after the first fence, stage left- mutual decision on that onehttp://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Second attempt, he exits stage left, BG forgot that this is a democracy and made the decision for himself, maybe thinking that's what he was "supposed" to do, since I had asked for it the first time? Who knows. Well he goes through this grid twice thereafter, very, very nicely. We go to quit on that, but NO! I decide, in my infinite wisdom, why not give it a go one more time and try to get it perfect. Well I ask BG to move forward, BG decides to add a quarter of a stride, which puts us in a hairy position getting out of this triple. Scrambles over the swedish, and we just don't recover and he slams on the brakes at the 3'6 fence. Ugh.

He's a pretty honest guy when we aren't finding ourselves at Ungodly distances.

So realizing that BG seems to be losing steam (but not tired enough to not spook at a leaf blowing in the breeze), we lower the last fence to 3' and go through the line again, ending on a positive note. The height doesn't phase him, but it would surely help if I could get him to a relatively fair distance. Bleh.

And don't even get me started on that left drift!!

Erin and Instant Karma
"Sweet freedom whispered in my ear
You're a butterfly
And butterflies are free to fly
Fly away, high away, bye bye..."
~EJ
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Merry
Nov. 2, 2003, 07:23 PM
What? You mean you have a C-O-W(and that spells "cow"), too? Welcome to the club. In honor of our cows, I suggest bypassing the Jim Beam whiskey and sipping a Kahlua and cream. Or some Baileys. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Madison
Nov. 2, 2003, 08:10 PM
And just when I think we are close to BGSG graduation day, I get a little reminder that we are CLOSE, but not out of the woods entirely yet http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Started with being SO proud of her yesterday for trailering in and going almost straight to the show ring without batting an eyelash. Jumped around like a champ having only jumped in the 2-jump round pen of a warmup ring. We usually go on Friday to school and have a stall for the weekend, so this was new and I was really proud of her.

So of course I think today will be fine . . . and it was o/f . . . but then there were the hacks. Seems that someone in the parking lot decided to fire up the radio/remote-controlled car and play with it, and the whine of that motor was enough to cause Madison to come completely unglued. We bolted straight sideways at the canter, and were just lucky there was nothing in our path. So much for focusing on the job at hand http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Of course, had I been wearing my armband everyone would have understood . . .

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Quinn
Nov. 3, 2003, 05:24 AM
Very pleased to say Quinn (Tubitha) is out of her girth extender and can now squeeze into her 52" girth. Baby green fatty pants.

Weather forced us back into the arena and unfortunately she feels she is far too precious to compress herself into any vague description of collection.

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"If you are going through hell, keep going." ~Churchill~

Merry
Nov. 3, 2003, 08:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Quinn:
Very pleased to say Quinn (Tubitha) is out of her girth extender... Baby green fatty pants.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Note to Madison: I am sewing my green armband for the show this weekend as we speak. I'm thinking a nice kelly green.

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Madison
Nov. 3, 2003, 08:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Merry:
_Note to Madison: _I am sewing my green armband for the show this weekend as we speak. I'm thinking a nice kelly green.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very good idea . . . perhaps you will be spared the remarks like I got yesterday afternoon . . . like "I've never seen her like that" or "she was feeling a bit . . . .uh . . . fresh . . ." Fresh of course was not the word I would have chosen . . .

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RugBug
Nov. 3, 2003, 08:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Instant Karma:

We go to quit on that, but NO! I decide, in my infinite wisdom, why not give it a go one more time and try to get it perfect.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh! That's the kiss of death with the BG's. And how come I fall prey to it all the time? "Just one more circle to the left to prove he really has it." I think I should have something hooked to my body that emits and electric shock every time I think "Just one more..."

Would help with the diet, too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Merry:

I am sewing my green armband for the show this weekend as we speak. I'm thinking a nice kelly green.

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Good idea! The color green correlates directly with actually green-ness and signals others to how much of a "radius of safety" should be permitted...and how much alcohol has been consumed. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

malarkey
Nov. 7, 2003, 09:02 AM
so if I have a green armband AND a red tail ribbon... surely I can show next summer and the judges and other competitors will look on me with pity and compassion.

*sigh* just don't have time for the baby greenie cow this month. After schools done... when its cold and dark and raining and everybody hates life, we'll return to working in the ring LOL

so, if you have a baby green gelding, you can't call it a COW can you? you must call it a steer, no? And actually if I were being technically correct, I would have to call my BG a heifer ;-)

*member of the connemara clique and the adults riding ponies clique*

Delighted
Nov. 7, 2003, 09:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by malarkey:
so, if you have a baby green gelding, you can't call it a COW can you? you must call it a steer, no? And actually if I were being technically correct, I would have to call my BG a heifer ;-)
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Heck, I call mine a cow all the time. Cow, or Pig, or something else much nastier if no one is around http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I was going to post a thread about how wonderful Pig Himself was today, but hey, here's as good as anywhere http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif He hasn't been ridden in a little while, since we did a big lesson and he was a little grumpy for a few days afterward. So, PigWilliam got a week off. I needed a big equine hug today, after dealing with Toga's many, many issues, so who do I head to? The mare, who has been perfect since the day she was born, and just KNOWS how to act? Nooo.. for some odd reason, I head out for the piglet. I've never been normal, though.

So, he comes flat galloping up to me when I call him, and shoves his big dumb head into me, lets me kiss on him and scratch his ears and everything. This is very, very weird. I wondered for a second if I could still flag down the vet, since my horse is Not Nice, but she'd already pulled out of the driveway http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

He was nice to tack up - only had one AHHHHHH!! moment in the crossties. He was decent enough to get on. He went on a hack around the farm, even though it was overcast and windy and they were pulling the trailer apart with a towtruck next door http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif We did a short little flatwork school - he actually remembered everything we'd been working on. He stopped square and calmly from shoulder movement alone. He got his leads. He adjusted his stride. The horse must be drugged http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

He did keep spooking at a gate that was on the ground, so, being the SuperGenius that I am, I decided to point him at it and get him over this issue, literally. Like he'd been doing it his whole life. Baby greenie is - dare I say it? - growing up (and, if not, I've now jinxed him and will have my normal, Yehaw!William back tomorrow).

Now, how is it that he can sit in his field and get fat and filthy and remember little picky details from weeks ago, but if twenty seconds pass, he has to be reassured that the barn cats are NOT, in fact, going to suck his soul, eat him alive, and make his big pink butt into a lovely dinner jacket?

Note to self: don't leg yeild into the electric fence.

RugBug
Nov. 7, 2003, 09:43 AM
I threatened Show with being given away yesterday. The doofus has been unbearable this week...at least for me.

Tuesday was lesson day and he was high as a kite (this is the horse that was sooooo quiet at the vet check I was concerned...unfoundedly) and nothing was bringing him down. My trainer walked in the ring and the first thing she said was, "Do you want me to ride him first?" Not encouraging! Took close to an hour to get through it, but we did.

Wednesday is trainer day...and he was wonderful! I was a very proud mama. My trainer kept saying how I fixed him and did all the hard work...talk about an ego that needed deflating on Thursday.

Nightmare horse was back. and I even took the day off so I could ride in the sunshine (i couldn't bare the thought of having to ride in the indoor all weekend with the rain that's predicted). He was monstrous. He's always been good in the wind, but yesterday's light breeze sent him over the edge. The rose bush gently blowing in the breeze almost got me a one way ticket to dirtville, not to mention the spot where a weed is growing into the arena....

I'm trying not to take it personally, but I really hate that he was good for my trainer and has been horrible for me. Will my sweet little horse come back? This is just green-ness, right?

On a happier note: Merry, keep us up-dated with how the year-end show goes. I'm sending good thoughts in your general direction. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

2ndyrgal
Nov. 7, 2003, 03:01 PM
My baby greenie and I aren't ready for prime time yet. He is the size of a large dump truck and and while heavy equipment does not bother him (he just tries to bite the tires as it goes by) the sight of a 3 year old child in a yellow rain coat with a hood is well nigh terrifying!And lets not talk about the cows,we are dealing with that little phobia one airs above the ground at a time. We can gallop downhill, have a trot to die for and can trot a 3'6" coop with ease. We cannot canter a 20 meter circle yet. Sigh, maybe next year.

RugBug
Nov. 7, 2003, 03:09 PM
okay...I just found the 68 page monster BGSG thread in the Favorites. It is making me feel so much better. My horse is apparently very typical. I haven't ridden a greenie since those bygone days of "I'll-ride-anything" youth and I seem to have misplaced those memories.

I will now repeat to myself 100 times a night: "Show is a normal greenie, Show is a normal greenie."

For some reason, though, even with all this craziness, I am feeling drawn to the idea of wanting to ride him bareback. I have clearly leapt off the cliffs of insanity, haven't I?

Horsaholic
Nov. 7, 2003, 03:18 PM
Can I play!! Merry, I took my greenie for his first time out to that same show at show park just to school and let him sleep there.. I thought he was going to combust in the schooling ring-especially going along the rail next to the center section (sandwhiched between horses going the opposite direction!) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif He wanted to buck and flip out so bad but I just kept him forward and tried to stay out of everyones way! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
We actually were pretty pleased with his overall behavior though.. He was nice and light to ride.. Now at home he is trying the ol trick of not using his hind end again http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Bulging and avoiding my leg, then over flexing, etc to get out of it.. Ah the joys! I love the armband idea for the show though!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Delighted
Nov. 8, 2003, 04:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RugBug:
For some reason, though, even with all this craziness, I am feeling drawn to the idea of wanting to ride him bareback. I have clearly leapt off the cliffs of insanity, haven't I?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do it! Do it! Do it!!

I ride Burr bareback pretty frequently. He gave me the "do wha huh?" look the first time, but is happy enough to tote my large behind around. We're up to trotting bareback, but that's because I am fat and squishy, not because of his issues. I'd like to canter him, but he's still doing the whole, "Mach 20 into canter" thing occasionally. He's really nice to ride bareback, really flexy and soft, and listens nicely. I can't really sit his giant WB trot, so we usually just loaf around.

Oh, and there was ONE other problem we had with riding bareback, but uhm.. just see below, and understand that it was totally my fault. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Note to self: don't leg yeild into the electric fence.

Royal Blue
Nov. 8, 2003, 05:05 PM
My baby greenie is up at his first away show this weekend. He schooled perfect on Friday & kicked butt in all his classes today. So why do I need pity you ask - how about refusing to come out of the trailer for over 2 hours. He hoped on the trailer like an old pro, rode there like a pro, & rufused to move a muscle to get out. I have bruises all over my arms from trying to push him to unstick him so that he would get off the trailer. By the end (I closed the front door cause he kept thinking he could just jump the chest bar & leave by the tiny door) I was loosing my mind from the heat & people kept walking by starring. I kept hearing my trainer say over & over to everyone " he's a baby " to which about a dozen ahhh's could be heard.

Finally we let him turn around (some how my 16.1 Hann compacted himself to the size of a pony) & then it took another 20 minutes to convince him to walk out - opps mean leap 80ft into the air off the ramp. The entire time I was computing how much the new Sundowner I was gonna own my trainer was going to set me back.

But can't get to worked up because as I've said he was better than our made horses about everything & was so relaxed in the tents that he didn't let anything interupt his 2hr sleep time which left the night watch cracking up.

Now we just have to get him off the trailer again tomorrow http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Horsaholic
Nov. 8, 2003, 06:00 PM
Royal blue, My Han greenie boy did the same sort of thing.. Got in just fine but looked like a deer in the headlights when it was time to get out. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif My trailer has a ramp and the last time he jumped the entire ramp portion while exiting the trailer http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif The last session went much better I didn't pressure him at all.. I think he is slowly figuring it out http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/yes.gif

Madison
Nov. 10, 2003, 03:39 PM
So Merry, was this the Cow's big show weekend??? If so, were armbands called for???

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gf
Nov. 11, 2003, 01:13 PM
I have to say that I'm really happy with my greenie. Although I have to be away for a month for work my friends at the barn are giving me updates and my girl is doing so well. She started showing this summer and was progressing with each show until the last one in August - the day before my birthday. She kicked a pony in the hunter pleasure class (she actually made contact with a little girl's leg -ugh). It took over an hour of working to calm her down to the point where she could go into the ring - not normal for her- anyway. The day she comes home she has a slight colic and her general condition declines over the next couple weeks. She had lost weight and was totally listless. Turned out she had ulcers, back pain - maybe pain from the splint injury we thought was not causing her pain and maybe a virus- poor girl!!!!! So now a couple months later she is coming back to work for real. She was kept in light work the whole time but we couldn't do much with her. Anyway I just got an update and she's doing so well. She even started jumping again and she was an angel! Hurray for great mares!

RugBug
Nov. 13, 2003, 12:58 PM
bump....

Merry
Nov. 13, 2003, 03:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Madison:
So Merry, was this the Cow's big show weekend??? If so, were armbands called for???

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I believe I shall have to start a whole new thread about this... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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Peggy
Nov. 13, 2003, 03:34 PM
And off we go to our (dressage) show tomorrow, with the baby greenie that got longed briefly yesterday and did who knows what (maybe nothing?) today due to the rain/mud. It seems that Chino Hills is not only quite effective at collecting smoke from brush fires (missed riding time = 1 week), but also at collecting rain.

Maybe that fresh body clipping job wasn't such a great idea after all?

The good news is that the show site supposedly got little to no rain and they were riding there today. I felt like asking the show manager if we could come early.

inmotion
Nov. 13, 2003, 04:01 PM
I feel for ya all! I'm gonna ask my trainer if we can clinic with Jim Beam.
My perfect little angel...aka 4 yr old Canter baby....who has won everything he can at 2'9 and who was always the hack winner, has decided about a month ago to go male harmonal on all the horses in hacks. He pins his ears, threaten to kick, canters in place and squeels at the top of his lungs....WEEEEEEEEE. And if that isn't enough he bolts into corners and trys to buck me off. He still wins the O/F, but I've been taking to hiding after the hacks....at least the ones I don't excuse myself out of.

I've been putting him in every large group lesson I can find. We are making progress, but slowly making progress. Last night he cornered a grey mare in the lesson and did his best impression of I AM A STALLION! She was unimpressed (he is not a stallion). He jumped great under the lights with shadows everwhere, a first and easy uneventful lesson. Fear and nerves are not his problem. I was so proud of him that I forgot the reason we were in that lesson until we danced left ears pinned at a poor chestnut horse. When do they grow up?

Oh one other bad thing he did. He bolted with me when I was mounting and I ended up beaking my ankle last summer....so someone stands at his head when he's being silly...he knows not to move forward if someone is there. My trainer got on him Wed. between a block and fence with me in front. He turned when she sat on him and jumped the fence from a stand still. We were both shocked. She couldn't believe he did it from a stand still and I couldn't believe he did it at all. Quiet like it was no big deal and walked away on the other side. I wasn't holding him and had turned to walk away. Is he an official teenager now? When will the trying to shock me stop?

Merry
Nov. 13, 2003, 05:59 PM
Gee, inmotion, maybe we should tag team at the shows: My horse always wins the hacks, even when she's naughty. Well, okay, if she rears I'm usually out of the ribbons. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif But we're just now "getting it" o/fences.

As for dearest Peggy: Ah, don't ya' love how the rain seems to come just when you do not need it in your training program? http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

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Madison
Nov. 13, 2003, 06:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Merry:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Madison:
So Merry, was this the Cow's big show weekend??? If so, were armbands called for???

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I believe I shall have to start a whole new thread about this... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh no . . . never a good sign . . . http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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horse addict
Nov. 13, 2003, 08:00 PM
Ugh, I have a love hate relationship with my greenie... shes SUCH a cow and i feel like selling her like every couple of weeks...shes such a nimrod sometimes and grrr...i've been told i could get 15-20 grand for her and then i could buy myself a made horse but noooo i have to love the green cow deeply...and shes making me extremely broke with all these darn injurys... she jumped out of the feild the other week which was a 4ft fence and scraped her back legs, at least the fence was rotten or her legs would be broken... and now everyone keeps telling me over and over that i have a jumper on my hands but i already knew that... and then her hind muscle is like scrunched up and making her stiff so i need like a chiro or something http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

This should definitly be an exciting up coming year...

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Royal Blue
Nov. 13, 2003, 08:14 PM
Little late update on my guys 2nd day showing @ his 1st away from home show. I managed to foil all his plots to escape from his stall & run free thoughout the grounds & only had to pull the sharps container out of his mouth 3 times. Our class went good except that I knew I wasn't going to get the lead since he was busy watching the people on the outside buying ice cream.

After 3 margaritas (which were made with 3/4 taquila, 2 ice cubes, & a drop of mix - darn bartender) trailer loading became quite humerous & the trip home was a blurr. Unloading was no fun as I was now just tired & sick so we pulled out the partition & turned him around.

So skip to today & it looks like my baby has licked the trailer issues (after our trailer lessons & the advice from fellow BB's) but we have to miss the biggest spectacular of our local circuit. Darn boss won't give me off Wednesday & Thursday next week, see if dad gets a good present for Christmas this year http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. But all is ok & I put the show money into our "what the heck let's show the goofball in some U/S classes @ WEF fund". It also works out because Gunnar (king of the hack) would have ended up showing against his girlfriend (Cindy the princess of the hack) & as Cindy's mom has said (since Gunnar is undefeated in his limited experience) it's best that they don't compete against one another http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Ok I'm done rambling on about my greenie.

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Peggy
Nov. 13, 2003, 10:30 PM
Royal Blue - You're making me feel better about my greenie. While he has escaped from his stall on several occasions, he usually announces his triumph by whinnying at us and then stands forlornly in the aisle, waiting for someone to catch him. And, no sharps container for this boy. But, don't give him the stall within reach of the faucet, because he will turn it on. He's even been known to drench unsuspecting people this way.

malarkey
Nov. 13, 2003, 11:11 PM
My baby greenie went on a trail ride OFF the property last weekend!! A friend came over and got me, she hesitated just a bit but grain convinced her to load, and she rode like a dream, no stomping or restlessness.

At the trail head, she was cool as a cucumber (since I shoved hay under her nose while tacking her up) and once I mounted up she was still cool and calm and collected. Damn! My pony is growing up! So, 3 of us head out. 1 horse had mega show miles but little to no trail experience, my girl has lots of trail experience but its all in one park so the scenery is all new this time, and the other is a green bean, greener than my green bean.

All three horses were collectively a bit scared of the vicious dogs that wanted to bite their legs off, luckily they were behind a fence, and I had to get off and lead her (and the others) over the bridge (which was over a deep, deep ravine they could see down into). We went up some steep trails, we crossed a busy road, we hacked in a public arena, and we cantered almost all the way home, my greenie in the lead. very brave!

I'm very proud of my green bean. she only had one very brief spastic moment and the rest she handled very, very well. She was a bit sticky loading to go home. I think she's always been loaded in stock trailers or trailers where she's alone and there's no divider. so the narrow opening she was skeptical about, but once again, grain convinced her it was a good idea.

*member of the connemara clique and the adults riding ponies clique*

Remi and me
Nov. 14, 2003, 08:57 AM
Remi the adorable has got a boo-boo and I didn't believe him so I called the vet. Remi's back legs stocked up and he doesn't ever stock up so out comes the vet. It seems that he injured his stifle a little. He can be worked lightly - no tight circles and no collection work. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif I feel really bad about not believing Remi so he got like 25 pounds of carrots. The funny thing is the vet said to work him like 20 minutes every other day. That has been Remi's own schedule! After 20 minutes he gets really pissy and says "That's it! Time's up! I'm done!" and if you try to ride him without a day off in between he gets really pissy about things and it's one big arguement for 20 minutes. I'll never be able to go to a week long show unless I only ride in classes every other day!
We are also now indoors - he hates indoors. Should be so much fun until May! http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sadsmile.gif

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OnyxThePony
Nov. 14, 2003, 09:07 AM
I need perking up http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
My bay-be is honestly awesome with everything, but is so slow in getting the whole 'yes you can go forward when I'm sitting on your back" thing. I know she'll come around in tie and training.
However.... sometimes I just want a horse (now) that knows what it's doing. Poor bay-be must sense this at times http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
I am getting sick of riding the greenies! Hubby and I actually talked yesterday of going out and just buying a made winner http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Formerly known as PlanetBob.

RugBug
Nov. 14, 2003, 09:45 AM
New thing to add to the list of horse eating monsters...a field of lettuce. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Thankfully I was only leading the giraffe when he spotted the expanse of green before him. You think he would've felt some sort of kinship with the lettuce, seeing how it's as green as he is. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Instead, the giraffe turned into the dragon who then proceed to break out his "watch how well I can spin around you," dance. My 16 3/4h guy turned into an 18h crazy.

But, he does get kudos because I haven't seen Mr. Twisty Head lately and Mr. Duck and Spook must be taking some sick days because they've been pathetic attempts to say the least.

Now if only he would turn when tracking left. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Policy of Truth
Nov. 14, 2003, 11:46 AM
UGH!!!
I'm so frustrated with my greenie weenie! It took a few bops on the poll to get her to pay attention today, and I HATE hitting a horse anywhere at any time. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/sigh.gif

But, once we faught a few rounds, she eventually became the nice, even paced TB mare I have ridden on her good days http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I have heard you should never discipline a TB, because they're so sensitive, but for whatever reason, a good few bopps between the ears seemed to have caught her attention...I HATE doing this, though http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif

Duffy
Nov. 14, 2003, 02:41 PM
Maybe she's in a dazed state after you pop her, pacificsolo. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WHEN IS CHEESE???

"B***h in training"

Merry
Nov. 14, 2003, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Duffy:
WHEN IS CHEESE???

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Oh. You mean to go along with our "whine"? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Just when I see that Barbie is becoming less and less of a greenie, I start to get back to working with my mother's 3-year-old. She's just coming off a short lay-up. She's well started under saddle but she's just so green. It's like looking at a shiny Porsche, and then comparing it to a pile of German car parts. I just don't have the motivation to pick up the wrench and get to work. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif

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OnyxThePony
Nov. 14, 2003, 03:20 PM
YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

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Well she finally got it. Today was the very first time I got on her back ans she said "Oh, OK, I know what to do. Let's go.." JUST LIKE THAT. No nonsense, no fussing, no major giving over, she just DID IT.
Whee oh boy. On cloud nine b/c my horse can WALK!!!!!!!!!

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Duffy
Nov. 14, 2003, 03:20 PM
Nope, Merry - the cheese meant that pacificsolo and I are overdue for harrassing our favorite bartender at our local fondue joint. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"B***h in training"

Dry Clean Only
Nov. 14, 2003, 09:01 PM
I have to jump in on this thread, as my current string of horses consists of:

A four year old who is W-T-C and jumping about 2'6" , ready to go novice this spring

A 6 year old who W-T-C and jumps whatevery you point him at, but has no idea about what your weight or contact with his mouth means - a hunter barn school pony flunkout http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And the biggest beast of the bunch, an 17 hand 4 year old TB who we just saddle broke 3 months ago (he sat around in a field doing nothing until then http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif).

Yesterday during winds that were gusting up to about 40mph, I climbed on the least broke one in the round pen for a little session of walking a steering. The second my tush hit the saddle a tarp from a nearby lawnmower flew up into the air, spun aroudn above his head, and landed 10 feet in front of us http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/dead.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Good times http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

Policy of Truth
Nov. 14, 2003, 09:17 PM
"Maybe she's in a dazed state after you pop her, pacificsolo."

http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif I never thought of it like that! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

"WHEN IS CHEESE???"

We simply must have cheese soon....and some wine!! Maybe we could do it next week...I'll have to double-check my schedule....I'll call you, k? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Must harrass Tom...he needs it, and we know how much he likes being tortured in public! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And Elizabeth has said I can ride her sweet app! I'm so excited! I haven't ridden a normal horse in SOOOO long!! I can't imagine what it will be like to say "whoa" and actually stop! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/winkgrin.gif

The HR group and this Southside gal all need to get together for drinks and laughs soon!

Policy of Truth
Nov. 14, 2003, 09:19 PM
"Yesterday during winds that were gusting up to about 40mph, I climbed on the least broke one in the round pen for a little session of walking a steering. The second my tush hit the saddle a tarp from a nearby lawnmower flew up into the air, spun aroudn above his head, and landed 10 feet in front of us"

You DO understand this makes you certifiable, right? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

Duffy
Nov. 15, 2003, 06:52 AM
pacificsolo - I'm kidless this weekend - what about a ride and then cheese? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"B***h in training"

Dry Clean Only
Nov. 15, 2003, 09:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pacificsolo:
You DO understand this makes you certifiable, right? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course I am certifiable - my least green horse is a four year old http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/lol.gif

TracyA
Nov. 15, 2003, 02:56 PM
You're braver than I am, Dry Clean Only. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm having lots of fun with my four year old quarter horse gelding. Last time I checked, Damascus stood an even 17.1Hh. Silly boy thinks he's a warmblood. He outgrew one saddle and I fear he may outgrow my current saddle also. Expensive bugger!

We showed in the two foot hunter and equitation divisions at the local unrated shows here in northeast Kansas with some success. I'm hoping to get to St. Loius once or twice next year for a larger show.

I don't get the baby green blues too often. I waited too long to get my first not to enjoy having a horse. And if we sometimes do goofy things at shows, well neither of us is particularly experienced showing. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I have the satisfaction of knowing that most of what he's accomplished so far is my doing. I take lessons on him twice a week, and he's had maybe five professional rides in his young life. I wish I could take credit for that, but Damascus is four going on eight. Relatively quiet, level headed, smart, and willing. I often have to remind myself of just how young he is.

Tracy

-Bailey-
Nov. 15, 2003, 03:31 PM
yeah, i know what you mean

Love you all-

"Just because something is a little banged up doesen't mean you throw it away" -Tom Smith

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LuckyMe
Nov. 15, 2003, 06:11 PM
Hello all... nice to see the Baby Greenie thread up and running again!

Well I had hoped that by this point, my baby greenie would be a little less....GREEN. She's four and a half now and while she is much quieter on the ground and is solid on the flat, she still has major NEON GREEN moments.

Now that winter is here we're back in the indoor ring, and she is TERRIFIED of one corner of the ring. She will go into the corner fine but when we come out, she BOLTS down the long side as if a tiger is behind her ready to chomp on her big fat QH butt.

I have found a temporary solution, thanks to a memory of a previous Baby Greenie thread where someone said that whenever their greenie decided a certain part of the ring was scary, they'd park a ground person on the fence there and suddenly it was all ok.

So now my poor hubby has been conned into standing at the fence in that corner. She's perfect, as long as he's there. As soon as he moves, she sees the non-existant tiger.

So alas, we have clearly NOT grown out of our spooking phase. Perhaps its not a phase... *sigh*. And really, she is a Quarter Horse...whoever said they were bombproof???

RugBug
Nov. 15, 2003, 09:25 PM
Sadness...Show's been going to Baby Greenie detention. He had an extra trainer ride today after rearing with me and just being a freak for the past two weeks. We've had moments of good, but he just seems to be getting hotter and hotter as the weeks progress, so....

He's on a diet. Well, not really a diet, but it's back to hay...lots of it, but basically just hay...and 1 cup of sunnies. Hopefully it will rid him of some excess energy and the spooking/bolting/rearing that comes with it. (See also my thread on turn out issues if you have any suggestions.)

So sad today. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

TracyA
Nov. 16, 2003, 07:15 AM
Sorry to hear that, RugBug. Hopefully this is just a short phase your youngster is going through. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Good luck getting him settled down.

Tracy

Tucked_Away
Nov. 17, 2003, 10:23 PM
Just got an e-mail from KV Vet with the subject:

"Adv. GREENIES make great stocking stuffers!"

Apparently "GREENIES" are some kind of dog treat. But maybe I can get the boy into a stocking, even so... He's not always evil, so that makes him an advanced greenie, right?

RugBug
Nov. 19, 2003, 10:00 AM
Because I can't help but shares my BG woes and successes with y'all:

Show was fantabulous last night! Yippee. After detention on Sat he was muchas better on Sunday for me. I had to ride him in the indoor, but there were no major BG moments (other than almost running over some of the lesson kids with our wonderfully steering and their slightly oblivious nature http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif)

Then we get around to my lesson last night, in the indoor (really just covered), with pitch blackness outside, and tons of commotion...and he was wonderful. We actually got to work at all three gaits, go all the way around the arena, trot some poles and then the best...canter some poles. We even cantered the poles while the soda machine was being fiddled with...major improvement. This is leaps and bounds better than last week when we spent 45 minutes trotting and working on going past the spooky parts of the arena. I told my trainer to beware of tonight. He's usually bad for me and good for her the next night. Wonder if the roles will be reversed? &lt;VEG&gt;

I'm starting to feel like a manic depressive. One day I'm elated, the next I'm bummed. Is drug therapy really the best way to deal with the greenies? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Peggy
Nov. 19, 2003, 08:10 PM
Well, despite some six days of riding in the not-quite three weeks leading to the show, Star was quite well behaved. His version of wild is to try to drag you all over the place under saddle. Finally, in desperation on the pre-show day, I yelled "whoa" and slammed him on his behind. Keep in mind that this was a dressage show and such behavior is not normal. The other trainer with a rider in the ring looked a bit shocked, but mine shouted out "good move!" He was actually the best behaved of the horses from the barn.

Basically, other than that and looking like he was auditioning for the rodeo when I longed him the second day, he was quite the star. He only tipped his water bucket over once. Of course, after the first incident, I put a rather large rock in it and lashed it to the tent stake that was holding up the portable barn. He didn't manage to escape from his stall even once. He was relatively quiet to braid.

We had four nice tests and got some decent scores. He was a bit tired by the last one and I wasn't sure if the walk diagonal was EVER going to end--I probably could have sent out for pizza and had it delivered by the time I got to the end.

Oh, and I got to meet Paula from the COTH BB who was the show photographer.

The other good news from the weekend is that I manged to sell my mom's saddle and my concoction of fly spray and insect ointment kept the notorious Paddock/LAEC gnats at bay, even with late afternoon rides.