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vineyridge
Jan. 6, 2010, 04:17 PM
I don't know if this is the right forum to ask in, but since I seem to spend so much time here, and since it's for a horse that I hope will be event horse, I'm here to ask where to find either a Dewsbury Waterford or Waterford Baucher, or a Neue Schule Waterford Baucher.

I think Dewsbury may be out of business, because I've only been able to find a US website offering their Waterford Baucher in 5 1/2, and that may be large for my horse. I know with a loose ring Waterford, you want to size it larger than a "stiff" bit so it can drape some in the mouth.

The Neue Schule bits are still made in multiple sizes, but I've only been able to find British sources for them.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

RacetrackReject
Jan. 6, 2010, 05:58 PM
http://www.horseoncourse.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=200_202&zenid=80iq8ldrkv58lv138p8dqes4r0

Woops.. it's the 5 1/2.

jn4jenny
Jan. 6, 2010, 07:07 PM
The Neue Schule bits are still made in multiple sizes, but I've only been able to find British sources for them.

Is that so bad? My former trainer has ordered dozens of bits from NS in England, and I orderd my last NS bit from them. It was a better customer service experience, both in terms of shipping time and communication, than when I ordered a NS bit stateside. And it was cheaper than getting it stateside.

But if you really want it from the USA, Hastilow is the exclusive US distributor for Neue Schule:
http://www.hastilowusa.com/shop/index.php?action=item&id=266&prevaction=category&previd=19&prevstart=0

BTW, I really dig how Neue Schule builds its waterford mouthpiece. It's slightly different from the other waterfords you see on the market in terms of the link shape and arrangement. My horse's cross-country bit is a Neue Schule Waterford Universal and I really like it. His everyday/flatwork bit is a Neue Schule Training Lozenge Baucher. Both very nice bits, a little on the pricey side, but they last forever.

My former trainer trainer owns a non-Neue Schule waterford baucher in stainless steel. She got it in Ocala, probably from Tack Shack but I never asked her specifically.

Ltc4h
Jan. 6, 2010, 08:24 PM
I'd call John @ Bit of Britain.
He doesn't have the baucher waterford listed on the webpage, but I would think he would be your best bet.
888-442-5015
http://www.bitofbritain.com/SearchResults.asp

vineyridge
Jan. 6, 2010, 08:31 PM
I'm interested in the Neue Schule because it seems to be as close to the Dewsbury in material (tasty?) as I'm likely to find these days. I did notice the difference in the links and was going to ask if this bit would be as kind to a just starting horse as the one with ball links--in the right hands, of course.

What I'm looking for is a bit that is as kind to a young horse as a Happy Mouth double joint bit with a roller in the middle. Something that tastes good, is flexible and forgiving, and lets the tongue play with the bit. Unfortunately my girl seems to chew the Happy Mouth plastic into sharp shards when she is working.

Any suggestions on a nice starter bit? She's been working for two months now. Did not like the Nathe and destroys the Happy Mouth plastic. I'd prefer not to use a loose ring just yet, and the one Herm Sprenger with a rubber roller ball in the middle only comes in a loose ring. :(

subk
Jan. 6, 2010, 08:32 PM
When I was on my great Waterford Search Adventure last summer I was unable to find one in 1/4 sizes--i.e 5 or 5 1/2 but no 5 1/4--and that included a source known for "finding stuff" being unable to find one. I think that is because of the way it is made and the links being 1/2 each. No worries though the 5 1/2 was great even though it would be to big in a normal bit...

IFG
Jan. 6, 2010, 10:03 PM
You could try the Stubben E control bit. It is a french link that does not collapse, so it is like a mullen.

Rabbit351w
Jan. 6, 2010, 10:25 PM
I looked and looked for a waterford boucher about 2 years ago. The only one I could find was this one:

http://www.shop4bits.com/item--Filet-Baucher-Waterford--Filet-Baucher-Waterford.html

I am really happy with it, glad to have it in my bit box. They do seem to only have 1/2" sizes though. They also do have the Neue Schule one which does come in 1/4" increments:

http://www.shop4bits.com/item--Waterford-Baucher-15mm--8029b.html

It is a British company, but I had the bit rather quickly and was overall happy with the service.