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Coppers mom
Jan. 3, 2010, 01:01 AM
I ran across this gem on facebook today. Wow. I mean, really?

The horse sounds like he should have been put down when they found him (though the pictures don't look anything like the description), and he's still lame 3 years later. In the "extended version" video, she also claims that he'll "run away" if she doesn't beg him to put the halter on, but on her website she just slings the rope around his neck and drags him off :confused: It seems like she's just keeping him and parading him around for the money. He has "severely rotated coffin bones" and still limps, but she rides him and you can donate money for his care.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Benny-the-Autistic-Horse/228602404793#/pages/Benny-the-Autistic-Horse/228602404793?v=wall

I just couldn't even believe it. Her website (link is on the page) is just incredible. I thought PP was the biggest ninny around, but I guess I have to take that back now...

irkenequine
Jan. 3, 2010, 01:08 AM
As someone who does ABA (applied behavior analysis, autism therapy) for a living, I howled when I saw that outloud. Ludicrous! I do hope in the next 10 years we don't see a swell in 'autistic horses' because they don't come right away in the pasture, avoid the bit, what have you. The fact that he has 400 fans as well...how astounding. Of course he's featured on 'holistichorse.com'

Coppers mom
Jan. 3, 2010, 01:14 AM
I know. It's really insulting that she's making such a mockery out of the disease. The woman we get hay from has a severely autistic brother, and it really bothers me that this woman would say something like "Oh, the school teacher down the road says he's autistic because he doesn't like eye contact". I mean, what a load. What an absolute load.

She talks about how he doesn't like touch, rolls, paws, etc because he has some kind of "orphan syndrome", and it's like, No, he's just a spoiled brat because she's a nutter.

Tegan
Jan. 3, 2010, 01:26 AM
:eek:

Maybe it wouldn't be as bad if she didn't talk to him like he was a big dog. Or treat him like he was a big dog.

He looks normal to me. It sucks that he was abused and I'm sure even in regular training he wouldn't be 100%, but I don't think this is helping him. I don't see any behaviors that stand out as terribly unusual, he's just disrespectful because he knows he can be.

Selling a DVD series for $50 kills me though.

Grataan
Jan. 3, 2010, 10:34 AM
I highly encourage everyone to go to her youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsPhJ5sO5uA and rate it poor.

ETA: She deleted that vid but here is a link to the other one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXgfW3Tvx58 Rate it as you see it. I rated it 'poor' cause there isn't an option for "extremely poor"

ArthurGuinness
Jan. 3, 2010, 11:08 AM
This lady is a nut!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

spurgirl
Jan. 3, 2010, 11:36 AM
I watched the video, funny how about three minutes in, the "autistic" horse seemed pretty interested in meeting the other horse in sight (confined in the left hand side of the arena). "Trainer" chased him out of that corner several times.

About five minutes in, she's "asking" him if she can halter him...What a crock...This looks to be nothing more than a poorly socialized, spoiled brat, somewhat stiff or lame horse. I've seen a fair amount of them in 30+ years around horses, and if this trainer really cared about him, she'd find an easygoing pasture buddy for him, turn him out, LEAVE HIM ALONE, and let him learn to be a horse.

Also regarding him not wanting to be with other horses...
I have a few here myself that when turned out, they see me, and whinny "for me"...It's either A) Around feeding time, B) The weather is not great, and they want to be in the barn, C) maybe they're greeting me, or D) Gee, They are just vocalizing in my general direction...;)

Who said "There's a sucker born every minute?" ...That PT Barnum was a genius!!!!

HobbyHorse101
Jan. 3, 2010, 11:48 AM
He seems like a rescue that she is making money off just because he has no manners..huh so can I make $50 dvd's off my thoroughbred because he has blow up randomly issues?

forestergirl99
Jan. 3, 2010, 01:52 PM
This is so ridiculous. If he had been socialized and was taught some manners he wouldn't be "autistic". He would just be a normal horse. Plus almost all animals have what would be considered autistic qualities, but that doesn't mean they're autistic. She's just making money off a rude, bratty horse.

indygirl2560
Jan. 3, 2010, 02:16 PM
I can't believe this! That lady is crazy!

"He has a lot of neurotic behavior. I mean, he'll lay down and roll a lot when I'm around." Yeah that sounds like an autistic horse to me...

Ainsley688
Jan. 3, 2010, 03:07 PM
Yikes, this lady is a wackadoodle! That horse is laughing away at her...

ThatScaryChick
Jan. 3, 2010, 03:22 PM
Wow, you learn something new everyday. I didn't know horses could be autistic. :uhoh:

oldpony66
Jan. 3, 2010, 03:27 PM
wow, next thing you know she'll want special accomodations for him.

nuts4cowboybutts
Jan. 3, 2010, 03:38 PM
Munchausens by Proxy???

grandprixjump
Jan. 3, 2010, 03:50 PM
Delete comments they don't like...

ChelseaR
Jan. 3, 2010, 10:51 PM
Anyone take a look a the majical* bitless bridle?

Ouch - that thing is supposed to be 'painless'?

Thin twine and knots low over the cartilage on the nose and on sides of the jaw (pressure points).

That is not in anyway kinder than a snaffle unless the horse has some pretty bad mouth issues.

If that horse is autistic because he rolls, whinnies and doesn't like strange people touching him - my herd of weirdos has the whole DSM IV TR pretty much covered.

Ooh and I have one with stringhalt too... plus he opens gates, unties knots, has broken more than one waterer and is proficient in standing on his hind legs and hopping forward. (all totally normal horsie behaviour imho)

Think I can get donations?

superpony123
Jan. 3, 2010, 11:17 PM
poor horse.

why are people so incredibly ridiculous? how on earth do people who see this lady every day NOT see through such [bull]?

Beethoven
Jan. 3, 2010, 11:45 PM
WOW! What a load of BS!

Horse looks like a spoiled brat that can do whatever he wants when he wants.

When she was haltering him, it didn't look like he was going run off at any second.

Haha, she would die if she came to my barn and met some of the horses that live here. She would be scared out of her mind.:lol:

Jane Honda
Jan. 3, 2010, 11:59 PM
Heh... She's in Estacada.



We always make jokes about the nutz in 'Cader.

Grataan
Jan. 4, 2010, 12:06 AM
They also...
Delete comments they don't like...And videos about which we comment lol. But never fear! Here are others you can rate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXgfW3Tvx58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZctYSO06OM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVXxWTmiVug

Rate the vids as you see fit and if you comment please be polite (no cyber stalking) I rated them poor cause there was no option for 'extremely poor'
I didn't know horses could be autistic
They can't. She's wrong. Apparently the horse was diagnosed by a HUMAN psychologist lol.


Heh... She's in Estacada.



We always make jokes about the nutz in 'Cader.LOL.

Jane, is that anywhere near...Boring? I remember showing at an equestrian center in Boring when I was showing on the youth circuit before my parents moved the family from WA to "back east"

I'll never forget that town lol.


"He has a lot of neurotic behavior. I mean, he'll lay down and roll a lot when I'm around."That's not neurotic, that just means he's comfortable in her presence-enough to lay down and put himself in a vulnerable position

ETA, Orphan syndrome my butt! Mrs P (http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236890&highlight=piggleswerth) was weaned and did not see another horse for TWENTY FIVE YEARS and she doesn't act like that (she talks to herself, and she's REALLY SUPER HAPPY to be around other horses, but she doesn't try to dominate her human handlers) You can't tell me he's like that because he 'wasn't turned out with other horses'

doublesstable
Jan. 4, 2010, 02:31 AM
Well I like this horse better and would donate to these trainers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63oXGRyhycc&feature=related

I found this while watching the Orphan horse.

Sunflect
Jan. 4, 2010, 07:55 AM
The hoof picture that she shows under his pictures on facebook really doesn't look like his foot. If you look at the whole body picture, while his feet don't look wonderful certainly, they don't look that awful!

cajunbelle
Jan. 4, 2010, 09:16 AM
The woman in this video, seems to have her own issues..Coordination, timing & purpose of actions.
I wonder if she is seeking her own sensory/physical therapy.. while using this poor horse for an excuse!!!:yes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZctYSO06OM

Timex
Jan. 4, 2010, 10:15 AM
Wow. Just...wow.

VarsityHero4
Jan. 4, 2010, 10:34 AM
I watched one of her "training questions" videos in which somebody asks her why her horse is so mean and nasty when she's trying to catch her in the field. The woman tells her she needs to show her horse that she is the herd boss. Herd bosses don't ASK to have their space so why is she (I would assume that she considers herself the boss of her herd) asking the horse if she can halter it.

And re: the kisses with Benny video, she's teaching the thing to strike out!

AND in the psychologist's defense, she probably confused normal horse behavior with autistic behavior, you know, horses have speech problems and often have trouble relaying to humans what they're feeling. Honest mistake. ;)

Jane Honda
Jan. 4, 2010, 11:03 AM
And videos about which we comment lol. But never fear! Here are others you can rate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXgfW3Tvx58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZctYSO06OM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVXxWTmiVug

Rate the vids as you see fit and if you comment please be polite (no cyber stalking) I rated them poor cause there was no option for 'extremely poor'
They can't. She's wrong. Apparently the horse was diagnosed by a HUMAN psychologist lol.

LOL.

Jane, is that anywhere near...Boring? I remember showing at an equestrian center in Boring when I was showing on the youth circuit before my parents moved the family from WA to "back east"

I'll never forget that town lol.

That's not neurotic, that just means he's comfortable in her presence-enough to lay down and put himself in a vulnerable position

ETA, Orphan syndrome my butt! Mrs P (http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236890&highlight=piggleswerth) was weaned and did not see another horse for TWENTY FIVE YEARS and she doesn't act like that (she talks to herself, and she's REALLY SUPER HAPPY to be around other horses, but she doesn't try to dominate her human handlers) You can't tell me he's like that because he 'wasn't turned out with other horses'

It is just north of Estacada. We ride our sportbikes all through out the area...

Sku
Jan. 5, 2010, 10:01 PM
Yikes. I try to keep an open mind about alternative and holistic training methods, but this lady seems to be a bit of a whackadoodle. I watched a few of her training answers and started cringing. I can't believe she has clients. I found these gems "orphan syndrome autistic horse", "kicking dirt is very humiliating, that's what the lead mares do". There are a lot more, but I just couldn't stomach watching the whole video.

geldingsRgreat
Jan. 6, 2010, 01:35 PM
When the rider is nuts, the horse bolts....this lady is NUTTY!

scrbear11
Jan. 7, 2010, 10:08 AM
Is that a scam? She has a donation page for donating to Benny's health care... I'm pretty sure it is... The vet's make a good, humane solution for Benny's ongoing health needs...

AmandaandTuff
Jan. 7, 2010, 10:21 AM
What a load of crap!

If this horse is autistic, mine are brain dead. I don't want to be rude, but that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.