State of the Art/ Art Deco babies?

[irkenequine]

Hello all-- I recently purchased a dutch warmblood cross filly who because of some belgian on her mother's side, is unregisterable, so I did not fuss too much over her pedigree when I bought her (though I did look it over.) I purchased her for conformation and temperament as I don't plan on going Grand Prix anytime soon, I just wanted a SOLIDLY built pleasure mount I can take up through the dressage world at my lazy leisure. Having said that, she is grandsired by State of the Art, out of Art Deco (not easily noticeable considering she's a liver chestnut, with only high stockings, a star and a snip)

Though I know of Art Deco's performance record, I can find little on State of the Art...I was just curious on a personal level if anyone has known or owned any of these babies, thoughts, etc. I feel as a 15-16 year old I was enamored with these horses and knew of them purely for color, but as I look at them now performance records don't lie.

What a long winded post! I suppose all I'm saying is, does anyone have any personal experience with any of these stallion's progeny, thoughts, opinions, etc.

[Daventry]

You'll be able to find State of the Art on the owners website....who also owns Art Deco:
http://www.silverwoodfarm.com/stateoftheart.html

She posts on the Chronicle BB so would be able to give you more information. A simple Google search will easily bring up information on the stallion and where to find it.

[irkenequine]

Thanks for the reply, Daventry. Yes I've visited that website a few times, which lists Art Deco's lengthy accomplishments, but little about State of the Art....I guess he never showed too extensively. I planned on shooting them an email actually when my paperwork was in order about the filly, to ask a few questions. I was just curious if anyone had personally owned a baby or had personal experience with them. I've always been guilty of playing through pedigrees and paperwork for fun when I used to own more OTTB's, brings out the kid in me!

[YankeeLawyer]

Here is a short thread:

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225413&highlight=sota

Also, if you search here under SOTA, you will get some hits.

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/search.php?searchid=6790348

I have only heard positive things about his babies. And he is reputed to be a kind and laid back stallion.

[chemteach]

Sounds like your filly has some excellent bloodlines! Florida Foxhunter has a SOTA gelding she loves and he is her hunt horse.

[NorthHillFarm]

I had a State of the Art gelding, out of a Hanoverian/TB ex-eventer. I got the mare in foal (I don't care much for pintos so probably would not have bred to SOTA myself)...the resulting colt was so laid back easy. He was my first foal and I broke him myself as a 3 yo. (and I'm not a professional by any stretch of the imagination!). He was always the same if he was ridden 3 times a week or 3 times a month.
As a 4 y.o. I did a few local hunter shows with him at 2'-2'3" and he cleaned up (Champion each time and he hadn't even learned his changes yet!).
When I got pregnant a few years ago I put him up for sale as I knew I would have time to take him to his potential. At 7 months pregnant I was jumping this 4 y.o. (coming 5 y.o.) 3'-3'6" (not on a regular basis but to learn his scope as there was a lot of interest for him as a jumper) but that's how easy going he was. My doctor didn't even want me riding but I knew he wouldn't be bad.
He was bred to event and probably would be excellent at it. As far as a hunter, he was not your hands down hack winner but a decent enough mover he usually got a piece of the hack (though I never did anything rated with him before he sold). He was a very honest and brave jumper (only once did he stop-the first time I asked him to go through a gymnastic). He was a little herd bound in the barn but never undersaddle...as long as he had people he was happy. He just LOVED to be loved (and to prove it he rolled in his manure every night and he was 90% white!).
If I had a thing for pintos I would certainly breed to SOTA for that temperament...but if I remember correctly, he produced color 100% of the time.
My guy sold to a dressage barn but I think has since been resold (again due to pregnancy) as a jumper.

[classicsporthorses]

I have a SOTA daugther and she was "made" before Silverwood farms owned SOTA-his first name was State of the Heart.

Eerste is a tri colored Pinto, built like a brick house. While not tall, she's about 15.1 BUT she easily takes and 80 inch blanket and when pregnant last winter took at 84 with the chest let all the way out. She was never broke out-had an injury as a yearling but scored for the main mare book with the ISR/OLD NA in her inspection-but could only get in the Pre-mare book b/c SOTA was not approved with them.

She is a wonderful mover, and her babies, from my Dutch stallion are, well, simply amazing! She had a couple of other foals before I got her and all of them were very nice foals, great movers and easy to deal with/train. I think her filly, just before I got her scored premium at the same inspection Eerste was presented at. Don't quote me on that one.


Interestingly enough she has, we own, a now 3 year old by my stallion who is a black and white Tobiano WB filly, which was about a 2-4% chance of getting and we were not breeding for it! Surprise stands 16.2+ and is stunning. My stallion is 17 Hands and a blood bay.

Her 08 filly, well is one of the most amazing fillies I have put on the ground. She was born big, correct, amazing movement and temperament. At 7 months old she is nearly 14 hands tall and takes a 62 inch blanket! Finally however is a bay.

Eerste is a wonderful mare and 99% of the time is good to handle etc. But if she gets a bug up her butt, well suffice it to say, a bull elephant does not stand a chance with her! She can be a real butt head. I have had to walk that mare with a chain over her nose and her nose to my chest b/c she wants to "bull" her way to something-mostly food! Her daughters are nothing like that.

[irkenequine]

These are all wonderful things to hear! Thanks very much to all replies--and thanks for those links, they are both very helpful. Happy to hear people enjoying their babies. Sounds like what I suspected...hearing nothing but good things.

Her breeding is actually somewhat of a mystery to me, because I can find NO information on her sire or dam. She was sired by Mosaic--there is one listed on Silverwood's main page but that is not him. Mosaic is out of State of the Art by Frances--who I am TOLD is a successful hunter in Canada by Eastern Ruler out of Matsu Jo, though I can find nothing on her--only on her full sister. I know grandparents don't count for as much, but since her father isn't proven yet in any discipline (remember, I didn't commission this breeding :P) I was trying to learn a little more about her makeup.

I'm having a hard time deciding if I should pursue registering her AWB or not; the old school rider in me feels that discrepancy between American and European (plus between AWS and AWR) but part of me also thinks hey, how could it hurt? But thats another thread ENTIRELY.

I was just curious to find her family links about if you will. Thanks again everyone :)

[shawneeAcres]

We had an ADORABLE State of the Art gelding a few years back, at the time he was either 4 or 5 and jsut the cutest moving and jumping guy. Was rather small, around 15.3 I believe. Sold him to someone in Vriginia as a hunter prospect. GReat disposiiton. only thing was he had a turned out front leg, think it was left front, that basically turned out the entire way down, not REALLY bad, but it was there. However, he passed vetting with no issues.