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eventingismylife
Dec. 2, 2009, 12:34 AM
I was wondering if anyone has an Irish Draught they they successfully event at at least training level. I am not talking about Irish Draught Sport horses, because I know they are great, look at McKinlaigh- Gina Miles wonderful eventer. What is everyone's general opinion of the breed as far as in this discipline, and compared to other draft breeds and draft crosses.
Thanks in advanced!

AdAblurr02
Dec. 2, 2009, 12:44 AM
my good buddy Debbie Fullilove rides her purebred Irish Draught stallion Braveheart for everything from hacking around the neighborhood to foxhunting, AND she and he have moved up to Training this year as eventers.
http://www.deanfieldfarm.com/

The purebred ID horse is generally a great all-rounder, that is, they will do anything they are put to with good humor and ability. As they are not a Thoroughbred, they do require a bit more care as to conditioning for hard galloping in hot weather, but most are very capable of eventing up to and including Training if kept fit and healthy.

Oh, and the Irish Draught is NOT a draft horse. They are the native horse of Ireland, and while they historically were used for EVERYTHING from farm work to hunting, they are a riding horse, with a real saddle back and real riding horse gaits.

AKB
Dec. 2, 2009, 12:46 AM
My daughter evented my Irish Draught through Training level. Then, he did polocrosse with another daughter. Then, he resumed being my trail horse, except when pony clubbers would borrow him for ratings that their horses could not do. Unfortunately, at age 12 he succumbed to an undiagnosed illness with prolonged fevers, low platelets, generalized swelling, then laminitis, which I now believe may have been caused by contaminated hay cubes.

My current ID certainly has the ability to event at Training level. He is my trail horse, but is a very capable jumper. The daughters have not had time to compete him.

dainty do
Dec. 2, 2009, 01:09 AM
I went to Ireland last summer and rode an Irish draught. Just an amazing horse cross country. It did not matter what the footing was like, he just went. Loved it. If I ever want to go to my happy place, I just remember jumping this horse.

eventingismylife
Dec. 2, 2009, 02:29 AM
Thanks everyone. Now tell me what you think of this up and coming 5yr old RID gelding:
http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/horse-ad-900341.html?sr=1&state_ids=26&region_ids=26&disc_ids=8&ltid=0&min_price=00&max_price=10000
pedigree:
http://www.dandelionfarm.com/owen.html
Sire:
http://www.dandelionfarm.com/huntingfield-proud-tim.html
Thanks again!

EmmyTheHemi
Dec. 2, 2009, 06:45 AM
pedigree:
http://www.dandelionfarm.com/owen.html
Sire:
http://www.dandelionfarm.com/huntingfield-proud-tim.html


Another HPT boy, Dandelion Mountain Heather (also on that web site) completed a Training 3-Day in Vermont this past August. Quite handily, I might add -- finished 3rd. He and his amateur owner have evented around Area I for the past couple years.

deltawave
Dec. 2, 2009, 08:22 AM
He looks like a perfect representative of his breed, and a terrific lower level prospect. I'm a big fan of ID/IDx. :)

Catalina
Dec. 2, 2009, 10:41 AM
My ISH's sire, It's The Luck Of The Irish RID (http://www.tullycrossfarm.com/lucky.html) has competed successfully at Training.

a_quick_one
Dec. 2, 2009, 12:22 PM
Another HPT boy, Dandelion Mountain Heather (also on that web site) completed a Training 3-Day in Vermont this past August. Quite handily, I might add -- finished 3rd. He and his amateur owner have evented around Area I for the past couple years.

I'm hoping to do one with my RID mare. Trainer thinks I can probably go prelim on her. She's not the fastest, but she'll go and go. At a hunter pace two weeks ago, we had the fastest time by six minutes, despite getting lost twice, and after one lap around the field we parked in, she was breathing normally, totally fine, and could have gone more.

I think the horse in question is cute, and looks to be not a heavy type, so he'd probably make a very nice horse through the lower levels.

Waterwitch
Dec. 2, 2009, 09:49 PM
There is one example of a light framed purebred (Grange Bouncer) completing a CCI** in Europe, but as other posters have noted, the vast majority of purebred Irish Draughts will not compete successfully/safely above Training level because of their body mass and metabolic type.

The jumping and dressage are usually not the limiting factors, but the conditioning is. Purebred Irish Draughts can be a lot of work to get fit (and to cool efficiently) and they are a lot of horse to be pounding on training gallops and cross country at prelim and above. IMHO, at prelim and above you want to be mounted on an a full Thoroughbred, or an Irish Draught Sport Horse or other crossbred with a lot of Thoroughbred blood.

That said, purebred Irish Draughts are the PERFECT mount at the lower levels. Frequently they are quite successful - many have very good movement and are more than capable jumpers. Their game personalities and versatility make them loads of fun to take hunting or team penning or to a dressage show when you're not at an event too :winkgrin:

Good luck whatever you decide. He looks like a nice boy - I've bred to the sire of this gelding twice and both foals had the BEST temperaments - and they definitely liked to jump from an early age!

Ishi
Dec. 2, 2009, 09:59 PM
Hey, there's Big Tim!
http://www.dandelionfarm.com/hunting...proud-tim.html

My DH evented Tim through Training, we have the most amazing picture of the two of them dropping into the big water at Rebecca Farms Training in our tack room. I sat on him a few times, he is one very cool stallion! Both of us would take a Tim babie any day, he is just da bomb!

Coppers mom
Dec. 2, 2009, 10:16 PM
I like him, but not particularly his jumping style in the video. He seems to be lazy with his front end, but it may just be that he's done this exercise a million times and the small fence height. If you go see him, see if you can set up something more than an itty bitty oxer and see if he's more impressed with a bigger fence. If he improves, great! But if not, I'd worry that he may be too slow with his front end.

Waterwitch
Dec. 2, 2009, 10:23 PM
Hey, there's Big Tim!
http://www.dandelionfarm.com/hunting...proud-tim.html

My DH evented Tim through Training, we have the most amazing picture of the two of them dropping into the big water at Rebecca Farms Training in our tack room. I sat on him a few times, he is one very cool stallion! Both of us would take a Tim babie any day, he is just da bomb!

I know exactly the pic you are talking about - I love that photo!!

Perfect Pony
Dec. 2, 2009, 11:03 PM
http://lonetreefarm.net/stallions.htm

As for the horse you are looking at, I am not a fan of his jump either, I'd like to see him use himself better over that large an oxer.

Bobthehorse
Dec. 3, 2009, 01:20 AM
What is everyone's general opinion of the breed as far as in this discipline, and compared to other draft breeds and draft crosses.


I actually dont think they are comparable to draft breeds, as they are not technically a draft breed, despite the name. RIDs have a long history as riding horses, unlike common draft breeds. I would probably consider them more heavy riding horses, or heavy hunters.

horsetales
Dec. 3, 2009, 09:07 AM
One of my favorite stallions that evented with his previous owner is Dandelion Diamond Rebel. He know leads the Potomac hunt. This is him with his previous owner http://www.breezyhollow.com/html/dandelion.html

I saw 2 purebred foals by him this year that were very nice. I don't know of older purebreds, but I just sold my IDSH by him to a dressage home. He definitely gives both movement and jump and I forgot the most amazing temperment

atleventer
Dec. 5, 2009, 09:25 AM
My first event horse was an Irish Draught mare. She was amazing. I only ran her novice (i was quite the youngster :) ) but the coach ran her in 1 prelim before we sold her (way too much horse for me). They are phenomenal in all 3 phases, but can be a bit "Irish" and cheeky ;)

eventingismylife
Dec. 5, 2009, 05:02 PM
Thanks guys. I try him out tomorrow and will post pics! Anyone else have any experience with these big guys (and gals)?

Chic Hunter
Dec. 5, 2009, 05:17 PM
:DMy ISH is out of Shauna's Diamond who is out of King of Diamonds. He got the best of all! I want to clone him. He is 17 years old and just keeps on keepin' on like a pony. No sighn of slowing down and there is nothing he does not excel at. Well maybe x rails and low jumps no respect for small stuff.

Flipper
Dec. 5, 2009, 05:38 PM
My big guy (17.1) is 7/8 draught,1/8 TB. We've gone (successfully) Training for 1 1/2 seasons so far, but had to sit this season out due to a nagging lameness issue.... When he wants to work, he's anything but a 'draft'. When he doesn't want to work, he's a total slug. In general, he's a big puppydog & very easy to work with.Yes, it's alot of work to get these big guys conditioned, but if you have access to dirt roads and/or open fields (which I don't have readily available - so it's nice that he likes to go for rides in the trailer...) & the time & motivation to condition & keep him fit, you'll be well rewarded! He looks very sweet ~ hope it works out!