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tidy rabbit
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:17 PM
What did you all think of that little number? LOL

Pretty wild. At least he's being true to himself!

RomeosGirl
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:19 PM
I didn't see it, but if being true to himself means "I want to shock people & be talked about...", then yes is very true

Dazednconfused
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:20 PM
As I keep saying to the people who complain.

Madonna and Britney have been doing that and worse for years, long before Adam Lambert was even a glimmer in the eye of the American public yet there's really no outrage about them. Would this even be news if he were a woman?

It's a sad commentary on the double standard that's being promoted, I feel.

tidy rabbit
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:25 PM
I didn't say anything negative. I rather enjoyed the performance myself. LOL

I think it's great that he's not being put under the "THUMB" of american idol but rather expressing his true nature.

I watched the video on youtube of the performance. It's pretty good, especially the beginning where the two guys are on leashes!!!!

Has there been media fall out from it? I saw ridiculous posts on the link to the video about one woman who covered her child's eyes. Come on, it wasn't that bad.

I agree that women have been doing far more risque things for a long time.

RomeosGirl
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:30 PM
Oh, I didn't view it negatively. If he wants to kiss a guy on stage (& other things), he is entitled to do that. I do think that he did it on purpose to stir things up, knowing that it would get a reaction. I don't know enough about him as a person to know if he did it to make a statement that it is unfair, or he just wanted some publicity...

Coreene
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:30 PM
Another exceptionally successful publicity stunt thought up by Simon Fuller and company. I think Adam is fabulous.

Tazzie
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:32 PM
I wish I had seen it, I loff him!

tidy rabbit
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:33 PM
Based on some pictures we saw of him last year, he's a pretty kinky dude.

Super talented and weird enough to be fascinating!

PinkPonies
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:36 PM
I do agree with Tidy Rabbit - it's nice to see someone come out of American Idol that is not your stereotypical "good ole American boy or girl". I've always liked Adam because I thought he was creative and artistic - I would expect no less from him!

And he's gay, no reason to hide who he is. Like Dazednconfused said - if it was girl girl or girl guy nobody would be talking. He was the first to do guy guy and I think that is pretty awesome.

MHM
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:36 PM
I didn't see it, and I don't follow Idol at all, but....

What a publicity bonanza for him! If there were people who had never heard of him on Sunday morning, they've heard of him now. :lol:

I did catch part of his songs on CBS this morning, and he obviously was smart enough to tone it down for that audience.

I will say when I watched this morning, I was a little distracted by the guitarist's hairstyle. Buddy, that Flock of Seagulls look was barely cool decades ago! :lol:

relocatedTXjumpr
Nov. 25, 2009, 05:45 PM
I think, the difference with the Madonna/Brittany thing is that they had already produced albums, toured, etc and had more or less "built up" their career before getting ever more provacative. Whereas with Adam, no one had seen or heard from his since AI.

I like Adam and think he is talented and yes, what a way to get your name out there. There is such a thing as too much too soon.

Nomoreusernames
Nov. 25, 2009, 06:28 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERDjUB8uFF4

MargaretW
Nov. 25, 2009, 06:34 PM
Loved it. The most offensive part? I thought his voice was off.

sid
Nov. 25, 2009, 06:39 PM
Depends if you like looking at fully-clothed porn.

Now that it has gone mainstream, I guess it comes down to whether or not you mind your kids emulating a "star". ;)

MHM
Nov. 25, 2009, 06:46 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERDjUB8uFF4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERDjUB8uFF4)

Was that an edited version?

Because really, for all the furor over it, I expected it to be much more outrageous.

Meh.

Nomoreusernames
Nov. 25, 2009, 07:06 PM
No,that was it. I think it was the crotch thing more than the lip lock.

KateKat
Nov. 25, 2009, 07:24 PM
Ha, I never watch American Idol but I thought it was great. Definitely a performer. The best part though...where he fell LOL. At least you know hes not lip syncing, unlike J LO when she landed on her ass and the music just kept on keeping on without her...

Gray Horse H/J
Nov. 25, 2009, 07:49 PM
I didn't watch the AMAs, and honestly I only barely knew who Adam was because I haven't really watched Idol in a few years. I logged onto AOL to check my email the morning after the awards, and there was a big article about Adam's performance.

So I watched it online and, well...so? I just kept thinking, "This is what everyone's making a big deal out of?"

I found it pretty entertaining actually.

KBG Eventer
Nov. 25, 2009, 08:06 PM
I'm a big fan, and I admit that I was shocked when I saw it Sunday night. And I don't think it was his best performance vocally.

But I was happy to see that everyone who replied so far isn't making a "mountain out of a mole hill" like many people apparently have.

He seems like a really cool person in the interviews I have seen of him.

His album is very good too so check it out! :)

Horse with No Name
Nov. 25, 2009, 08:14 PM
I like Adam, I think he's a great entertainer :)

The youtube recording I watched wasn't so flash on the quality but I got the gist of it all :D I liked it although agree with MargaretW about his voice.

harvestmoon
Nov. 25, 2009, 08:16 PM
IMO, his voice was off and the song was terrible. I was never a big fan of his when he was on Idol, but I did like how he interpreted some of the songs he sang.

This was just...meh.

As to the antics on stage...*shrug*

Louise
Nov. 25, 2009, 09:13 PM
Blech. All glitz and distraction to cover up the fact that the song and the voice are mediocre.

LisaO
Nov. 25, 2009, 09:15 PM
I am still a big fan of [the old] Prince, but Adam may be taking his place! I'm fascinated by him, and boy can he sing...and perform!

annikak
Nov. 25, 2009, 10:13 PM
I could care less about the kiss- that was the least that offended me. I am a pretty...well, open person. Kiss? does not bother me.

But, simulating oral sex? Grabbing the womans crotch as she was above him? That- and that alone- offended me. Call me old, crotchety (Sorry...) whatever- it's not something I want on TV. Perhaps cable, but mainsteam TV? I don't think so.

It was edited for the west coast.

And I agree- that man has an amazing voice, but he was off, and screaming. Just not that amazing for me. I dunno dude...

MHM
Nov. 25, 2009, 10:36 PM
It was edited for the west coast.



That's what I wondered- is the Youtube clip the version from the west coast broadcast?

Kate66
Nov. 25, 2009, 10:45 PM
I didnt see it but read the media blast. The kiss would not have bothered me in the slightest but simulating oral sex seems a little off!

Kate66
Nov. 25, 2009, 10:48 PM
Actually here are some of the photos - not my scene.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/22/adam-lambert-falls-at-ama_n_367149.html

annikak
Nov. 25, 2009, 10:49 PM
i am trying to download the video- but my internet is...ahem...rather slow! I am on min 1.18- and they showed a snippet of it- but the camera seemed different, but then again, we have a huge TV and it was in HD (sadly...)

annikak
Nov. 25, 2009, 11:03 PM
Yeah- those sum it up. National TV? I think not.

Paragon
Nov. 26, 2009, 12:12 AM
His voice is quite outstanding, frankly... but it was not in this. This performance was all about the shock and glam.

All of that notwithstanding, it's about damned time a pop artist used their real voice while scampering around onstage. It's a given nowadays that artists will be dubbed, even in live concerts! :eek: It may not have been pretty, and it certainly wasn't something I'd listen to over and over again, but good on him for not taking the easy way out.

MHM
Nov. 26, 2009, 12:16 AM
Here's my other question- did he actually fall?

If so, he made a pretty darn slick recovery.

Liberty
Nov. 26, 2009, 12:59 AM
I watch AI, and, at first, I wasn't sure what to make of Lambert. He is definitely a performer, and while being on stage wasn't a new thing to him, AI was his gateway to the big time.

I wasn't a huge fan of his usual singing routines where he does that screaming, tongue-out stuff. But I was really impressed with his AI performance of "Mad World". Totally unexpected. Wow.

Here's the studio version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emh6ceA6zIg

OT on the Lambert thing, but get a load of this kid and his guitar - hubby and I spent a couple hours on YouTube after running across one of his videos. He is AMAZING:

Sungha Jung playing "Mad World":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdI0v4B8Vfg
and some U2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4CR3GoB3YY
and if you liked that, I bet you'll spend some time watching many more of his videos.

mswillie
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:21 AM
Blech. All glitz and distraction to cover up the fact that the song and the voice are mediocre.

Agreed. I keep hearing how great his voice is but I'm not hearing it. I've never been a big fan of screaming vocals. And he doesn't hold a candle to Gene Simmons in the sticking out the tongue thing.

As far as the show goes it takes a lot more than that to offend me. I didn't care for all the random unrelated stuff going on. Didn't make any sense to me.

dalpal
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:21 AM
First of all...I have always been a big fan of Adam's..especially on AI..with that said.....

I cannot believe people think that it is okay to do what he did on live network TV....HBO, fine...not network.

I'm wondering how many of you who seem to think "what's the big deal?? Have only seen the edited version that was shown on the west coast?

The performance was pretty much S and M....things such as men being driven across the stage with a pretend harness, a man's face shoved in Adam's crotch and Adam humped his head, Adam sticking his hand right up a woman's crotch and fondling her while she was swinging on some sort of contrapion. The lyrics were raunche and not acceptable for a Live, Network TV show...a show that kids might be watching.

Sorry, call me a prude (I'm not)...but this was in poor taste. Not to mention the vocals were horrible.

I thought it was self indulgent and disrespectful. He knew full well that what he was doing/that it wasn't acceptable for network TV. Then cries discrimination???? I'm sorry, but I don't care to see Brittany/Madonna or Adam Lambert humping some man's head.

I have several of Adam's AI songs downloaded...but I think this was pretty darn tacky. Flamesuit zipped.

Liberty
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:46 AM
...Sorry, call me a prude (I'm not)...but this was in poor taste. Not to mention the vocals were horrible...

Call me a prude too, because I agree with you, and I didn't even see his performance live (thank goodness!). Being on the East coast, I'd have seen the full raunch version...um...no thanks. Glad I missed it. The YouTube clip was more than enough.

Paragon
Nov. 26, 2009, 02:09 AM
Agreed. I keep hearing how great his voice is but I'm not hearing it. I've never been a big fan of screaming vocals.

If you haven't already, you should check out the link on this thread to his rendition of "Mad World".

MHM
Nov. 26, 2009, 02:47 AM
Now I'm more confused.

Out of curiosity, I just watched him on David Letterman. All the reports mentioned him kissing his male keyboardist, but the person playing keyboards looked like a woman to me.

Not that I care much, but it seems like a discrepancy in all the accounts of the big brouhaha.

RiddleMeThis
Nov. 26, 2009, 03:03 AM
As I keep saying to the people who complain.

Madonna and Britney have been doing that and worse for years, long before Adam Lambert was even a glimmer in the eye of the American public yet there's really no outrage about them. Would this even be news if he were a woman?

It's a sad commentary on the double standard that's being promoted, I feel.
Completely agree, and as to the part I bolded...

Ya, about how hot it was to see two women kissing.:lol::lol:

Koniucha
Nov. 26, 2009, 03:10 AM
The funny thing is that people are complaining that kids were watching but look at the stuff that is on tv during the day. Uh if you watch CSI or Law and Order you can see a horrifically disfigured body or limbs are missing and etc. I guess that stuff is okay on TV during the day (9:00 pm was it!) but not this. Geez!

Woodland
Nov. 26, 2009, 09:23 AM
If you look him up on You Tube pre Idol - that is how he "performs". He has never been a nice "boi".

I am a Glam fan - but he is not the real deal. I think he will end up a niche` performer and fade away.

Is it true that Lambert & GaGa are dating? Those two "boi's" are quite a pair! I think it would be a clever match for publicity.

dalpal
Nov. 26, 2009, 09:41 AM
The funny thing is that people are complaining that kids were watching but look at the stuff that is on tv during the day. Uh if you watch CSI or Law and Order you can see a horrifically disfigured body or limbs are missing and etc. I guess that stuff is okay on TV during the day (9:00 pm was it!) but not this. Geez!

I do not have children..so quite frankly, I don't care what kids watch....HOWEVER, MOST TV shows now come with a label for parents to decide if they want their child to watch or not....I doubt seriously that ABC had the awards show listed as a rated R show.

I'm also a little tired of the excuse of "Well, everyone else is doing it"....doesn't make it right.

There are probably parents out there who do not let their preteens/young teens watch things such as CSI, etc.

I will agree that most TV now is total trash..but parents should at least get the correct warning label and be able to decide for themselves.

annikak
Nov. 26, 2009, 10:53 AM
I have kids. And I want them to know that being sexual is a good, loving, respectful, kind thing. If they choose to go elsewhere later in life, that's fine (as it is for Lambert...) However, I want to do what ever I can to support that being the case for their moral beliefs. Prudish in this stance? I guess.

His voice IS amazing- well trained and very theatrical. But this, well, said it before, saying it now, too much for TV. His AI performances for the most part were really impressive.

(like the other poster- fondling a womans crotch, humping someones face, giving the finger?? Not TV stuff. Even those that say CSI and the other shows? Gross, but usually not that blatant.)

Lisa Cook
Nov. 26, 2009, 11:17 AM
I really like Adam and was not surprised by this type of performance from him. It's who he is...:) It was probably the worst performance from him, vocally, that I've ever heard, but also nice to know that he wasn't lip synching like everyone else these days.

And for anyone concerned by the children watching....he was on at about 11 pm on a night with school the next day. I would sincerely hope that any impressionable children would be long gone to bed by that point (my 16 year old is not up until 11 on a school night). And if kids were watching...there's always a remarkable little button on the tv that turns it OFF.

Woodland
Nov. 26, 2009, 11:26 AM
I have kids. And I want them to know that being sexual is a good, loving, respectful, kind thing. If they choose to go elsewhere later in life, that's fine (as it is for Lambert...) However, I want to do what ever I can to support that being the case for their moral beliefs. Prudish in this stance? I guess.

His voice IS amazing- well trained and very theatrical. But this, well, said it before, saying it now, too much for TV. His AI performances for the most part were really impressive.

(like the other poster- fondling a womans crotch, humping someones face, giving the finger?? Not TV stuff. Even those that say CSI and the other shows? Gross, but usually not that blatant.)

I am all for kids seeing love and affection but that performance did not project that!

I have seen many many many many concerts. Nope never seen that! I have seen Prince hump his guitar live. I have seen Mick Jagger, Ronnie wood, Rod Stewart and Steven Tyler hump the stage as they sang. I saw Freddie Mercury make wild innuendo(too classy on stage to go any further) but those concerts were all in the 70's/80's and all attended by adults.

I think Lambert pushed it too far for his first "real" TV performance. I respect the "artist", but it was very ala` Marilyn Manson to me. All show no real blow(meaning his vocal range is poor - therefore he screeches). He is a Bowie, Mercury wanttabe - but he does not have the talent - sadly! The world NEEDS another Freddie!!!!! I cried buckets when he died!

FancyFree
Nov. 26, 2009, 11:40 AM
I get that he kissed what appears to have been a man. I get that he may or may not be gay.

I didn't see it. I can't seem to find it on Youtube. I thought it was more that just a kiss though. Didn't he shove a guy's face into his crotch? Adam is gay. He came out awhile ago.

dalpal
Nov. 26, 2009, 12:44 PM
I really like Adam and was not surprised by this type of performance from him. It's who he is...:) It was probably the worst performance from him, vocally, that I've ever heard, but also nice to know that he wasn't lip synching like everyone else these days.

And for anyone concerned by the children watching....he was on at about 11 pm on a night with school the next day. I would sincerely hope that any impressionable children would be long gone to bed by that point (my 16 year old is not up until 11 on a school night). And if kids were watching...there's always a remarkable little button on the tv that turns it OFF.

It's NETWORK TV..not HBO. Doesn't matter if you feel everyone's kids should be in bed. Maybe we should just go ahead and okay soft porn on regular TV as long as it is after 10pm, eh?

dalpal
Nov. 26, 2009, 12:47 PM
OK, I finally looked up this Adam Lambert guy and saw this performance on YouTube.

Why is this such a big deal?

I get that he kissed what appears to have been a man. I get that he may or may not be gay.

Are we saying we have not seen a man kiss a man before? And this is shocking? Are we saying that Performers Boy George and George Michael were not shocking, not chocking enough, or we forgot them?

I'm not trying to be funny, sarcastic, witty, or anything, really - I seriously do not understand this thread. Somebody translate please.

Have you not read this entire thread? The kiss wasn't even the issue.....but humping someone's head on network TV, fondling a girl in her crotch, driving two half naked men across stage on a pretend harness while singing "It's about to get rough for you"....Uh, not appropriate.

You may have seen the edited edition....by the time the awards was aired on the West Coast, ABC had time to edit his performance...and that is probably the ediiton you saw.

FancyFree
Nov. 26, 2009, 12:55 PM
humping someone's head


:lol:

I was so pissed off that they edited the West Coast show. You know it was Jennifer Lopez who made that happen! :lol:

I saw Jenny from the Block's fall on her ass anyway. That clip was everywhere.

When people bring up Madonna kissing Britney, they should remember that was on MTV. Plus I didn't really want to see that either. :Gag:

EponaRoan
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:05 PM
humping someone's head Sounds like some of the dogs I've had. To which we always said the highly inappropriate, "Wine me, dine me, you-fill-in-the-blank."

Won't someone please think of the chiillldren!!!!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Parts of the song were catchy, but the set was way distracting, the camera shots far far away and the lighting was flarey.

Jazzy Lady
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:13 PM
My dog humped his blanket while we had a ugandan minister over last week... I thought that was inappropriate...

EponaRoan
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:14 PM
My dog humped his blanket while we had a ugandan minister over last week... I thought that was inappropriate...

Shame on your dog! I bet he got uninvited to any scheduled tv appearances. ;)

shea'smom
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:20 PM
I had to watch the youtube video twice, thinking I had missed something. Big whoop de do.
I think it was a stupid performance for Adam. He should capitalize on the AI thing a while longer and actually SING something people will enjoy to keep his name out there. I assume he wants to make a living doing this. He is a lovely singer, even if some of the music his AI fans like isn't his thing, he should cater to the fans some while he makes himself a name as a real artist.
This was a dumb move, but more annoying than offensive to me.
What surprises me on this thread, you people who don't have children, do you really not care what they watch on TV? Do you not morally think everyone should kinda care about children, they are the future and all that. I think every child should have a chance at a good upbringing, maybe it will help make them grow up into the kind of person that cares about others.
And this is the longest post I think I have ever written on here.

Coreene
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:33 PM
Congratulations to 19 Entertainment - this thead and all the other brouhaha caused by their well-planned publicity stunt is proof that it worked exactly as it was supposed to. Simon Fuller strikes again!

EponaRoan
Nov. 26, 2009, 01:52 PM
What surprises me on this thread, you people who don't have children, do you really not care what they watch on TV? Do you not morally think everyone should kinda care about children, they are the future and all that. I think every child should have a chance at a good upbringing, maybe it will help make them grow up into the kind of person that cares about others.


That would be up to their parents/guardians and not up to random adults and/or performers/producers on television shows. I'm sure that if those of us without children were to start telling parents what their kids would watch, there would be quite the snit fit, so I'm quite content to leave it to them to moderate their childen's television viewing by using that cool gadget, the OFF switch. Worked in my day when tvs were black and white and it still works today as far as I know.

Got a lot of other things more important to worry about than if some kid sees a guy shove another guy's face into his crotch.

Someone once said something to the effect that it's interesting that in America, you can get a PG rating for showing a breast being shot off, but show someone having sexual fun with said breast and you get an R.

It's publicity for the guy - I'm not sure that it's good publicity, but it certainly got his name mentioned and his video watched, right?

shea'smom
Nov. 26, 2009, 02:04 PM
There is a difference in thinking that random adults should be deciding what kids should watch and saying that you just don't care because you don't have kids.

Coreene
Nov. 26, 2009, 03:40 PM
His management company. Simon Fuller - who used to rent desk space from an old boyfriend in London (Simon had but a single artist he represented and had just launched 19 Entertainment) - also propelled the Spice Girls to fame, and countless others. Also manages David Beckham. Created American Idol. Sold 19 for zillions but is still helming parts.

dalpal
Nov. 26, 2009, 05:39 PM
OK, hon, let's break this down again. I have been able to accept that what I want to see and what is aired are two separate things. I also am aware that it is no longer appropriate to allow children to watch most shows that air on network television after 7:00 pm eastern standard time.

Lets clear something else up: I saw the unedited version on YouTube. I saw what was seen by folks that are outraged. You want me to be shocked and I keep telling you, I grew up on Madonna - I am so over being shocked. I am numb. You cannot shock me. Not going to work. If that's not enough, I work with children that try to kill themselves and others. And that's giving you the "clean" version.

First of all, I'm not your "HON" :lol: Secondly...I have to worry when people have actually seen this trash and see nothing wrong with it. I don't care if it's straight, gay..whatever....keep it in the privacy of your own home....don't need to see it on network TV. For the record, I didn't watch the AMAs...even as a professional musician, that show is the equivalant to watching paint dry. When people started talking about this on another board...my inital thought was..."Oh give me a break, it can't be that bad"....then I watched the link and thought it was pure trash. I have several of Adam's AI songs downloaded....voted for him several times.....I don't support him on his decision to do this. You don't burn your bridges when someone invites you to kick off your very first tour on a huge music award show that's being aired live.....just tacky to do this. I applaud ABC for canceling his GMA performance.

As for the "Not shocked anymore" comment. I remember a show called Twin Peaks. I didn't watch it, but my college boyfriend was a huge fan. Apparently in the last episode, they finally showed how Laura Palmer was killed..it was incrediably graphic...people complained. The director's response was..."Murder should shock you, it's a shame that our country has gotten so complacient to these things." As for Madonna....;yeah, I grew up with Madonna.....doesn't make what Adam did any better. If I remember correctly, Madonna was at least smart enough not to do that crazy, trashy shit until she had made a huge name for herself....not right out of the box, first tour appearance.

dalpal
Nov. 26, 2009, 05:45 PM
My dog humped his blanket while we had a ugandan minister over last week... I thought that was inappropriate...


Snort...at least he kept in in the privacy of your home. :lol:

tidy rabbit
Nov. 26, 2009, 05:47 PM
What surprises me on this thread, you people who don't have children, do you really not care what they watch on TV? Do you not morally think everyone should kinda care about children, they are the future and all that. I think every child should have a chance at a good upbringing, maybe it will help make them grow up into the kind of person that cares about others.
And this is the longest post I think I have ever written on here.

I don't have a kid. I don't have cable television. If I did have a child it wouldn't be watching TV at all. TV is not there to help raise children, although it works as a babysitter for lots of kids and helps those future consumers spend mom & dad's money on useless crap.

So, I completely disagree with your point. If you're worried about kids, start a campaign to stop children from droning out in front of a TV and get them to go outside and play or pick up a book and READ. That would actually mean something, as opposed to bashing a bunch of adults chatting about a MUSIC VIDEO.

dalpal
Nov. 26, 2009, 05:52 PM
Congratulations to 19 Entertainment - this thead and all the other brouhaha caused by their well-planned publicity stunt is proof that it worked exactly as it was supposed to. Simon Fuller strikes again!

YES...BUT, does it make you want to actually BUY this music???? I can just see singing along in my car to the lyrics of "It's about to get rough for you" :lol:

I will be interested to see if this helps his CD sales any....personally, I highly doubt it..but we'll see. Adam has marketed himself to a very small genre in my opinion....I'm not talking about gay/straight.

He's alway been a "you either love him or hate him" type of singer...I've always loved him, was prepared to defend him on the other board when this came out....but this was just over the top, self indulgent behavoir.

To coin Simon Cowell's famous line...

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT???

I wonder what Simon Cowell thought of that performance.

Shea...I hope I didn't come across as not caring about kids...I certainly do. My point was that the network does have a responsiblity and it's pretty damn pathetic for a guest to do this unannounced, unrehearsed on a live TV show.

Paragon
Nov. 26, 2009, 06:11 PM
I don't have a kid. I don't have cable television. If I did have a child it wouldn't be watching TV at all. TV is not there to help raise children, although it works as a babysitter for lots of kids and helps those future consumers spend mom & dad's money on useless crap.

THANK you. I do have a kid. He's thirteen and doesn't watch tv, because there is no tv subscription in the house. Instead, he participates in extra-curriculars, plays in music ensembles, rides horses, and spends time outdoors.

Not terribly concerned what fake publicity crap someone does on television - which we don't have - after bedtime.

Lisa Cook
Nov. 26, 2009, 07:56 PM
YES...BUT, does it make you want to actually BUY this music???? I can just see singing along in my car to the lyrics of "It's about to get rough for you" :lol:

I sang along to Katy Perry's "I kissed a girl and I liked it" several times because it is a catchy tune that would get stuck in my head. Doesn't mean that I actually wanted to kiss a girl.

And what if Adam Lambert sang a song about kissing a boy and liking it? Just pondering if it could ever reach the "played every 5 minutes on Sirius channel 1" status that Katy's song reached. I think he has a point about double standards.

And for anyone saying that Madonna waited until she was a star before doing anything really shocking...nope. She posed nude for Playboy before she really got rolling on the fame train.

FancyFree
Nov. 26, 2009, 08:10 PM
THANK you. I do have a kid. He's thirteen and doesn't watch tv, because there is no tv subscription in the house. Instead, he participates in extra-curriculars, plays in music ensembles, rides horses, and spends time outdoors.

Not terribly concerned what fake publicity crap someone does on television - which we don't have - after bedtime.

Hmmm curious as to why you would even bother post in this thread which happens to be about something that happened on television.


She posed nude for Playboy before she really got rolling on the fame train.

No she posed nude for some photographer who then sold the pictures to Playboy.

There's no double standards for me. I'm equally grossed out by Glamberace and Madge. Blech.

Woodland
Nov. 26, 2009, 08:54 PM
My dog humped his blanket while we had a ugandan minister over last week... I thought that was inappropriate...

My Pomeranian Toby, humps a cat we have named AJ Perzinski(after the baseball player) They are both boys - i don't have a problem with it. Except when they do it in front of the kids that come for lessons. Come to think of it they did it in front of our Priest when he was over for dinner a few weeks ago. :no:

Look the performance was tactless, talentless and tacky. It was an obvious attempt to drum up publicity for a fast fading starlet. Lamebert will be just a vague memory in the near future. DING his 15 mins is about up!

annikak
Nov. 26, 2009, 11:21 PM
The Youtube version and my TV version were different. As I said before, maybe because my TV is that much bigger,and in HD but, the few scenes that disturbed me were longer (no break to the audience when he was doing the shoving face trick)

I grew up with Madonna, and she was shocking at times- but not downright disrespectful to her audience. I guess I think that performance was. For those that think it was not all that bad, did you see the youtube or the East coast version?

My 16 yo son was not asleep when it aired, but not watching. He might have had less of a hard time with it then I. But then again, once he heard about Brokeback Mountain, that was it for him!:lol:

I respect artist freedom and expression. I like a certain amount of shock factor. But this surpassed that for me, given the venue. If I went to see him in concert, and knew what I was getting into, then, okay.

This (for me) is NOT a gay thing. I have many gay friends, and that has nor ever will bother me.

It's a G thing all right- Gross.

flshgordon
Nov. 26, 2009, 11:39 PM
The performance doesn't particularly bother me, I'm all for artistic expression but OMG, is his voice ALWAYS that bad? I don't think he hit a single note on key the entire performance.:eek::eek::eek:

This guy seriously needs a voice coach or he'll be just another sideshow.

Paragon
Nov. 26, 2009, 11:50 PM
Hmmm curious as to why you would even bother post in this thread which happens to be about something that happened on television.

What does that have to do with anything? I saw the segment, my child didn't, because his parents don't believe in letting him be glued to the television. :P

It's not a hard concept.

FancyFree
Nov. 27, 2009, 12:02 AM
Here's what you wrote:


Not terribly concerned what fake publicity crap someone does on television - which we don't have - after bedtime.

LOL. You're right, it's not a hard concept. I guess it is for you though. You don't have television. There's no chance of your kids watching television, or the show in question, in your home. Why come into a thread and write that you don't care about the subject because it doesn't pertain to you? Why bother? :lol:

Psst...I know why you really posted and it has more to do with the no television life your child is leading, so BRAVA! KUDOS! No shame in a parent's little brag hehehe, but really not relevant to the discussion. ;)

Coreene
Nov. 27, 2009, 12:58 AM
Adam's career is strongly and firmly guided by his management team and not by him, with everything thought out well in advance. This entire thing was an exceptionally successful publicity stunt, totally orchestrated and completely without spontaneity. There was a plan in place long before the AI season was over.

Paragon
Nov. 27, 2009, 01:02 AM
You don't have television. There's no chance of your kids watching television, or the show in question, in your home. Why come into a thread and write that you don't care about the subject because it doesn't pertain to you? Why bother? :lol:

I don't believe I said that I don't care about the subject. I do indeed care about it, which is why I chimed in. The point is that, in this instance, the idea that poor little children would have seen it is stretching. Late at night + something children are unlikely to watch anyway = ?

The principle of whether or not certain things belong in the public forum is a rather universal notion. If we're only allowed to speak on things that pertain immediately to us in this single, isolated situation, message boards such as this will suffer miserably.

FancyFree
Nov. 27, 2009, 01:10 AM
If we're only allowed to speak on things that pertain immediately to us in this single, isolated situation, message boards such as this will suffer miserably.

If people would post on subjects that they actually have experience with and/or have an actual interest in, rather than to toot their own horn, my gawd, how message boards would improve! :lol:

Again I remind you of your post:


Not terribly concerned what fake publicity crap someone does on television - which we don't have - after bedtime.

If you're not concerned and don't have television, why post about it? Oh don't bother replying. I know. ;)

Paragon
Nov. 27, 2009, 01:33 AM
I could go on, FancyFree, but I won't. It's not a post - or topic - worth causing a rift over. We don't have to agree.

dghunter
Nov. 27, 2009, 01:52 AM
Saw the unedited version and was a bit unimpressed with the whole thing. I did like the song but I can't tell someone sucks as a singer unless they sound like a screeching cat so I like most things :lol: Didn't find it all that offensive but perhaps it's just a generational thing? I feel like I've seen so much worse on movies and tv shows and such. However, at Thanksgiving today all the "adults" (I'm technically an adult but obviously a different generation) were freaking out about it. It would be interesting to see the age differences between those who found it offensive and those who don't really care to see if it really is a generational thing.

War Admiral
Nov. 27, 2009, 10:07 AM
The performance doesn't particularly bother me, I'm all for artistic expression but OMG, is his voice ALWAYS that bad? I don't think he hit a single note on key the entire performance.:eek::eek::eek:

This guy seriously needs a voice coach or he'll be just another sideshow.

This.

See, the whole problem is that if you're really only a performer and not a singer-songwriter, then you have to (a) have good choons, which this is not, and (b) be able to sing, which he cannot.

Anyone who grew up on 1970s glam rock thinks this performance was both tame AND lame; it's not like similar things never happened before (http://www.5years.com/mrcal9.jpg). As Coreene said - it's the publicity coup of the year; just a pity he doesn't really have the talent.

Know who he's gonna be when he grows up? Jobriath. :lol:

erinwillow
Nov. 27, 2009, 10:35 AM
Okay, that was *so* lame. What crap. But what I really found funny was that any shot that included the audience you could see that they were all just standing there, not a head bob in the place!!! not a sing along, not a clap. . dude, you suck!