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Toadie's mom
Nov. 21, 2009, 09:07 PM
I was just perusing the Fasig-Tipton Tx Dec. mixed sale catalog and there is a mare for sale that is in foal to The Green Monkey. Send me some money up front and I'll bid on her for you:winkgrin:

nightmoves
Nov. 22, 2009, 08:01 AM
I'll start the bid at $1.00 Oh wait, I forgot minimum is $1000 sorry NO SALE

Ajierene
Nov. 22, 2009, 09:44 AM
Has he had any foals race yet? Is he still standing stud?

I was wondering about that because my belief is no matter the breeding, if the horse is that big of a dud, then he will not produce anything of substance so I was wondering if there is any evidence to prove or disprove my theory.

Laurierace
Nov. 22, 2009, 11:31 AM
Yes he is still standing at stud and no he hasn't had any race as he hasn't had any born yet. These things take time.

tbracer65
Nov. 22, 2009, 01:19 PM
Has he had any foals race yet? Is he still standing stud?

I was wondering about that because my belief is no matter the breeding, if the horse is that big of a dud, then he will not produce anything of substance so I was wondering if there is any evidence to prove or disprove my theory.

.....I'll have to think on this a bit -- but there are mares that had unsuccessful careers on the track (or never made it to a race) but produced decent runners.

harvestmoon
Nov. 22, 2009, 01:45 PM
Am I the only one who thinks he wasn't *THAT* big of a dud? Yeesh, he raced three times (in three consecutive months), had two 4th place finishes and a 3rd. Then they retired him.

If they had given him some time, who knows, he may have improved.

His foals haven't even hit the ground yet. Maybe they will all be super duds, but maybe not. Let's wait and see, shall we? ;)

harvestmoon
Nov. 22, 2009, 01:50 PM
.....I'll have to think on this a bit -- but there are mares that had unsuccessful careers on the track (or never made it to a race) but produced decent runners.

Alibhai comes to mind. He was unraced.

Ajierene
Nov. 22, 2009, 03:18 PM
Yes he is still standing at stud and no he hasn't had any race as he hasn't had any born yet. These things take time.

HA! I was thinking it was in 07 or 06 that he was retired...it was late in 2008...probably should have looked that up first.

JER
Nov. 22, 2009, 03:19 PM
I was wondering about that because my belief is no matter the breeding, if the horse is that big of a dud, then he will not produce anything of substance so I was wondering if there is any evidence to prove or disprove my theory.

I'm curious why you don't do your own research before coming up with your theory.

:)

Ajierene
Nov. 22, 2009, 03:20 PM
I'm curious why you don't do your own research before coming up with your theory.

:)

If you follow the scientific method, you come up with a theory or hypothesis, then prove or disprove it.....

And I'm not very good on google. Not my area of expertise.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 22, 2009, 04:45 PM
As much as we all may laugh at the circumstances for which a group overpaid for the horse he isn't exactly chop liver as the would say. His race career was fully compromised by an injury with a pulled hind muscle which never went away. Also he didn't ask to be at the center of a bidding war.

Accordingly its not like he was a dud on the track without any excuses and further while his fee is perhaps too high (many other solid $10k choices abound) there are certainly far worse stud fees to pay for.

Laurierace
Nov. 22, 2009, 04:47 PM
You mean 5k right Glimmer? And that is probably highly negotiable.

JER
Nov. 22, 2009, 05:20 PM
And don't forget: he's a sabino!

(he's actually a handsome horse, looks like he'd produce some nice hacks for the show ring in the UK)

Glimmerglass
Jan. 15, 2010, 11:48 PM
Note: I cited $10k above and yes his fee published is $5k

TB Times Jan 15, 2010 - "First reported foal for The Green Monkey" (http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/breeding-news/2010/January/15/First-reported-foal-for-The-Green-Monkey.aspx)


The first reported foal by world-record priced juvenile The Green Monkey was born on Wednesday [Jan 13, 2010] in Ocala.

The foal, a bay filly out of I’m Angela, by Kayrawan, was described by owner-breeder Jacqueline Fleck as “big, beautiful, and very correct.” The filly is the third foal out of I’m Angela, a six-time winner and earner of $112,816.

Glimmerglass
Jan. 3, 2013, 07:06 PM
Digging up another thread from the grave as a daughter of The Green Monkey was in the winner's circle today at Gulfstream Park :D

Your Lovely (FL) broke her maiden with her 3-yr old debut (http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=8813468&registry=T) - Race 10. She was wheeled back in 10-days from her last effort (8th place). Her record is now 4 starts 1-1-1

She was in for a $12.5k tag

Is she the first winner by The Green Monkey? Nope. His first crop reached the track this past summer and at DelMar his daughter - Kinz Funky Monkey (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/72534/the-green-monkey-sires-first-winner) took victory on Sep 2, 2012.

She is now 3 lifetime starts 1-1-1 with $64,400 in the bank.

Per the BloodHorse in September they indicated that has 24 registered [at the time 2-year-olds] in his initial crop. He's standing for $5k in Florida.

summerhorse
Jan. 3, 2013, 07:34 PM
Lets hope they are pretty enough to make hunters or sweet enough to make trail horses!!

ravenclaw
Jan. 5, 2013, 11:15 AM
I just read on bloodhorse.com (Maiden Watch column) that half of The Green Monkey's runners have won.

I don't know what the average is or how many runners he has had, but that sounds pretty good. Especially since the mares that were bred to him probably weren't great.

LaurieB
Jan. 5, 2013, 11:42 AM
According to the stats compiled by the Blood Horse, The Green Monkey currently has 5 winners from 14 runners. His crop's earnings of $208,256, while not particularly noteworthy, place him on the First Crop Sire List above such horses as Brother Derek, Notional, and Red Giant.

Glimmerglass
Jan. 5, 2013, 03:57 PM
... place him on the First Crop Sire List above such horses as Brother Derek, Notional, and Red Giant.

The Green Monkey fee: $5k
Brother Derek: $7,500 (http://www.airdriestud.com/brother_derek.asp?header=stallions)
Notional: $7,500 ( http://www.spendthriftfarm.com/horses/notional-516.html)

(Today Red Giant garners $3k for live/standing foal (http://www.threechimneys.com/red-giant/))

While the purchase of TGM was obscene he was unfortunately maligned for it and at $5k he is more of a value proposition then a lot of others. Smarty Jones at a fiscal cliff fall of just $7,500 today still makes little sense IMHO.

halo
Jan. 5, 2013, 04:07 PM
He is absolutely no value at $5,000. Take a zero off, maybe for sport horses.

He's so highly thought of that he bred 8 mares this year.

jenarby
Jan. 5, 2013, 11:20 PM
I had one in my barn this winter. Her name is Moonshot Monkey. The guys who gallop
for my at PID own her and she came to my farm for a while. Tiny tiny little bitty filly. Not much to
look at but she did win.

danceronice
Jan. 6, 2013, 01:28 PM
Your Lovely (FL) broke her maiden with her 3-yr old debut (http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=8813468®istry=T) - Race 10. She was wheeled back in 10-days from her last effort (8th place). Her record is now 4 starts 1-1-1

....My first thought was "Your lovely what?"

I hope the owners meant her name as a noun, not an adjective without/with an implied object.

Lord Helpus
Jan. 6, 2013, 04:23 PM
....My first thought was "Your lovely what?"

I hope the owners meant her name as a noun, not an adjective without/with an implied object.

OMG. Now people are misspelling Your/ You're when registering horses??? So sad..

Other horses have had their names misspelled, though:
Reputed Testamony
Commanche Trail

But these are not at the level of not knowing the difference between Your and You're.

If I owned Your Lovely I might have to name her foal: Their You Go. :D

Gestalt
Jan. 6, 2013, 04:47 PM
OMG. Now people are misspelling Your/ You're when registering horses??? So sad..

If I owned Your Lovely I might have to name her foal: Their You Go. :D

Bwahahahahaha, priceless!

LaurieB
Jan. 6, 2013, 05:07 PM
Other horses have had their names misspelled, though:
Reputed Testamony
Commanche Trail

Reputed Testamony's name was misspelled on purpose. I met the owners many many years ago and they told me the reason. I just can't remember what it was. But the spelling wasn't a mistake.

omare
Jan. 7, 2013, 12:03 PM
FWIW Smarty Jones was one of the the top PA sires in 2012--so maybe he has found the right market.

Regarding spellings--sometimes it is the jockey club that misreads the name requested especially if handwritten as in the old days--and a pain to get changed afterwards.