PA - 14 yr old TB gelding looking for retirement home

[filly78]

My husband and I have a 14 yr old TB gelding that we have owned for 6 years. He is currently living at home with us. He has been diagnosed with Lyme disease. He has been rearing/bolting under saddle when being dismounted. We're not sure if the issue is due to the pain from Lyme or otherwise. Either way, we unfortunately are not going to be able to trust this guy to ride again.

Looking to find a good home for him where he can be retired.

[SMF11]

I'm sorry, I'll bite -- why do you think there's someone out there who wants to retire your horse when YOU don't want to??

Also, Lyme is very treatable, have you tried?

[filly78]

We have tried 4 weeks of antibiotics so far. The rearing/bolting still exists. My husband and I feel that we will not ever feel totally secure on this guy again after the rearing/bolting issues. We know he needs some more time off, etc to feel better, but our trust issues aren't going to get better...

[magicteetango]

Hate to bite again... but why don't you treat him, rest him for the winter, and send him off for 90 days to give him a good start on his new life? I totally understand not wanting to ride him ever again.

Sitting in my pasture is a horse I only rode a dozen of times. I've had him for six years now. It started as a mental unsoundness, but now his body has caught up to that. I've retired him myself, no pressure to anyone to do that but at the least rest him.

Has he seen a chiropractor? Was he always this way?

[DieBlaueReiterin]

how much are you looking to pay per month? i know a couple places (in PA) bc i too have been sort of looking for a retirement for one, or at least a short lay up place. i'm in NE PA.

[gettingbettereveryday]

Have you considered euthanizing him? If he is as uncomfortable and dangerous as you suggest, it might be a good option. Obviously, no one wants to put a six-year-old horse to sleep, but sometimes it can be the kinder option if the problem remains intractable.

[talloaks]

Have you considered euthanizing him? If he is as uncomfortable and dangerous as you suggest, it might be a good option. Obviously, no one wants to put a six-year-old horse to sleep, but sometimes it can be the kinder option if the problem remains intractable.

The OP says he is 14 years old.

[gettingbettereveryday]

The OP says he is 14 years old.

Hmm...not sure where I got six then? I guess it was a reading failure there. In any case, euthing may be the kinder option.

[Susan P]

4 weeks of treatment isn't nearly enough time to allow the treatment to effect his behavior and he will probably never be 100% if he is behaving that badly. I have a friend who didn't understand why her wonderful pony was just walking right out of the show ring, refusing jumps etc. and the trainer smacked him around believing he was being a brat while he was actually suffering. He recovered and caught Lyme's again and this poor horse tries his heart out but he will never be the horse he once was. You sure can't blame the horse for contracting this disease, we put him in his environment. I think the owners owe the horse a chance and as was stated, why would anyone want to take on a problem, that's not a free horse, that's a nightmare that keeps on costing.

Your horse may be of value to you at some point, maybe next year as was stated, rest, continuing the treatment and in at least a year from now (since in one year it will be going into winter) your horse may be a pleasant trail horse and you should really keep those ticks off of him or figure out how he got Lyme's so whether it's ticks or another insect you can keep him protected. Freedom Spot does a pretty good job of protecting them and I don't think this horse can afford to get Lyme's again, it's a dreadful disease. The longer you have it the more damage it does, even neurologically.

[Susan P]

He's 14 years old and she's owned him for 6 years, you didn't imagine the number but put it in the wrong place.

It sounds like he might be ok in a retirement facility, perhaps but they aren't free.


Hmm...not sure where I got six then? I guess it was a reading failure there. In any case, euthing may be the kinder option.

[Riva]

It sounds like you have your own place if he is living at home. Why don't YOU retire him rather than try to pawn him off somewhere?

[pinky107]

Riva - yes we do have our own place. Unfortunately keeping a horse on our property costs a lot of $$. Just because you have your own place does not mean you have the $ to retire a horse there. I was hoping maybe someone would be looking for a companion buddy and would have a good retirement home for him...

[JanWeber]

If you can spend some time (and yes, $$$) to get a better handle on his issues and hopefully resolve them so he can be at least lightly ridden, you'd be better off. Even folks that want a "companion buddy" generally want them to be somewhat rideable. His size, his age, his history of rearing/bolting all make him not too desirable as a companion. I'd rather have an older quiet pony any day - less to feed, shoe, clean up after...

[chaltagor]

Riva - yes we do have our own place. Unfortunately keeping a horse on our property costs a lot of $$. Just because you have your own place does not mean you have the $ to retire a horse there. I was hoping maybe someone would be looking for a companion buddy and would have a good retirement home for him...

You did it again "filly78." Now you'll need another alter. :sigh:

[cloudyandcallie]

It sounds like you have your own place if he is living at home. Why don't YOU retire him rather than try to pawn him off somewhere?

It is OP's RESPONSIBILITY, whatever happened to that, to take care of the horse. If it's such an inconvenience, put the poor guy down and bury him.

Too many people want to give away the old and the sick and the lame rather than caring for them or putting them down. Man up, horseowners!

[justdandy]

Riva - yes we do have our own place. Unfortunately keeping a horse on our property costs a lot of $$. Just because you have your own place does not mean you have the $ to retire a horse there. I was hoping maybe someone would be looking for a companion buddy and would have a good retirement home for him...

Huh? How is keeping a horse on your property more expensive than on someone else's property? If you don't have the $$ to keep the horse as a companion, why do you think someone else will? It sounds to me like you don't want to spend the $$ on this poor boy's treatment.

[Riva]

um... I have my own place and it is much cheaper than boarding horses out. In fact, there is no way I could have all the horses I currently have without my own place, so I'm as confused as justdandy on that point.

You have had this horse for 6 years. Now that something is wrong with him, you have a responsibility to care for him. Just trying passing him off is not the right thing to do.

[JanWeber]

I'm starting to think we should encourage the owner to euthanise the horse rather than try to re-home him. She may be financially stressed and willing to take the first option the presents itself. That, as many of us know, is the guy who promises a great home and loads-and-goes to the auction or straight to the kill buyer... Better a peaceful end (I know, I know - there's probably nothing wrong with this horse that merits euthanasia) - than the alternatives...

[ToN Farm]

I'm starting to think we should encourage the owner to euthanise the horse rather than try to re-home him. That's going to cost her a few hundred bucks that she probably doesn't want to spend.

I know that Lyme's gets blamed for a lot of horse issues and maybe they are valid most of the time, but rearing during dismounting doesn't sound like a Lyme problem. It sounds more like a problem with the back or ribs, like maybe a kissing spine thing.

What's the horse like to ride before you dismount?

[ksetrider]

If your not willing to treat him, don't pawn him off on someone else- even if your intentions are good. Four weeks is way not long enough. It can take months for anyone with Lyme's to come around again. My boss just had a stint put in her heart- a repercussion of Lyme's she had 10 years ago. I sold a cute little TB a few years back. Two years with new owner and he developed lymes. The owners treated him, but he was left with a bum leg and they didn't want him anymore. I was lucky enough to be in a good place and was able to take him back. He lived a good happy life for 2 years as a w/t mount and then just a companion before Lyme's came back with a vengeance and I put him down. He was 11. Its time people started taking responsibility for their animals. My cat has had bowel problems for months now. She makes a gosh darn mess of my house. I have to vacuum every day. And lets not discuss vet bills so far. Sure, I've thought of dumping her at the shelter. But how fair is that?
Sorry for my little rant :eek:

[Thomas_1]

Riva - yes we do have our own place. Unfortunately keeping a horse on our property costs a lot of $$. Just because you have your own place does not mean you have the $ to retire a horse there. I was hoping maybe someone would be looking for a companion buddy and would have a good retirement home for him...

How many alters do you have?

Do you just change your username and reinvent yourself so you can fob off your old, injured and unwell horses?

[filly78]

For all of you out there knocking me, please get off my as$. I'm sick and tired of people on this board jumping all over me. The horse mentioned in the OP is safe and sound. Enough said.

[Knothead]

, like maybe a kissing spine thing.



Just a casual reader, but this was one of the first things I thought of for some reason. Maybe it's just on the forefront of my mind as I knows someone dealing with a kissing spines problem.

[blaeberry001]

How many alters do you have?

Do you just change your username and reinvent yourself so you can fob off your old, injured and unwell horses?


I have been out to the OP farm her horses are well taken care of, live in excellent conditions. Please make sure you know the full circumstances before you start chastising people -Enough said.:eek:

[blaeberry001]

Just a casual reader, but this was one of the first things I thought of for some reason. Maybe it's just on the forefront of my mind as I knows someone dealing with a kissing spines problem.


That was a condition she was looking into Chiropractor/licensed vet is coming out to see horse. She wants whats best for her horses.:)

[chaltagor]

I have been out to the OP farm her horses are well taken care of, live in excellent conditions. Please make sure you know the full circumstances before you start chastising people -Enough said.:eek:

I'd love to know the circumstances of using two usernames on CoTH. Is this the third?

[chaltagor]

For all of you out there knocking me, please get off my as$. I'm sick and tired of people on this board jumping all over me. The horse mentioned in the OP is safe and sound. Enough said.

You flip flop around in real life as much as you do with your alters on CoTH.

[Penthilisea]

The horse mentioned in the OP is safe and sound. Enough said.

Sound? Really? :no:

[cloudyandcallie]

As pinky107 she has a thread on giveaways for an older horse, and other threads including one about a horse who lies down a lot. Please read the other threads for insight.

I hope this horse and the other horses are ok.

[ASB Stars]

I think that the OP has alot going on in her life, judging from this, from TOB:

http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=173682&highlight=

And she is trying very hard to look into all possibilities, to help her horses:

http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=174684&highlight=

and yet, they are pretty hard on her over there, too...

http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=174772&highlight=

In any event, she lives about 2 miles from me, and we met, when she posted here, that she needed to purchase a couple of bales of hay, to tide her over 'til her delivery came. Aside from that, I know nothing about her, other than the struggles we have seen her share here.

[Wayside]

As much as we'd all hope that after 6 years of good service, the horse would have earned himself either treatment or a good retirement, sadly there are reasons that those things don't work out. It's a bummer, but I can't really take issue with that.

I do, however, take issue with a horse that rears, bolts, and may have Lyme disease and/or spine problems being called "safe and sound."

Granted, I'm not looking for a companion horse right now anyhow, but that huge discrepancy in descriptions would definitely scare me off if I were. It might be in you and your horse's best interest to be a little more straightforward when explaining his issues and your situation.

And I agree with the pp who stated if you truly can't manage his problems, or afford to retire him yourself, euthanasia might be the kindest option.

[equineartworks]

Gosh only knows this is a place where people support each other...but one can't help but feel like they are getting the wool pulled over their eyes when three or four posts of different problems with this horse are posted and then a post under a different user name shows up trying to give him away.

[ASB Stars]

I think that the posts are more representative, and symptomatic, of the people who are trying to address these issues, than the horses, themselves.

These guys may just have gotten themselves in over their heads. It happens.

I wish them-- and their horses-- the very best.

[chaltagor]

So then someone trying to have a child, pay money to a charlatan for a useless service and take dressage lessons doesn't have the money to keep a horse at home? Hmmmm.

Riva - yes we do have our own place. Unfortunately keeping a horse on our property costs a lot of $$. Just because you have your own place does not mean you have the $ to retire a horse there. I was hoping maybe someone would be looking for a companion buddy and would have a good retirement home for him...

[chaltagor]

I think that the OP has alot going on in her life, judging from this, from TOB.

Who doesn't? It's insulting to insinuate she can do whatever she wants because "she has a lot going on." She has her own farm and owns horses oh what a terrible life. Starving orphans in Darfur are going to send her their canned goods. :rolleyes:

And why you are posting things she's written on other boards is beyond me, it's just showing everyone she spreads the joy around. Thanks though. ;)

[Marshfield]

For those who don't get to ride because they support their pensioners instead of trying to dump the responsibility off on someone else, this type of placement of a horse who is ill after years of service is hard to swallow. I agree with those that euthanasia may be better than an uncertain future.

[AnotherRound]

Well, for the price of euthenasia, she could treat the Lyme disease.

(BTW, its LYME disease, folks, not LYME's, but that's ok, just thought I'd remind folks of the name).

[HealingHeart]

Please STOP :( this negative discussion. Your words, your thoughts are wounding and are not helping anyone or this horse.

Blessings sent to this horse and filly78 to be able to move forward.

[Wayside]

Well, for the price of euthenasia, she could treat the Lyme disease.

(BTW, its LYME disease, folks, not LYME's, but that's ok, just thought I'd remind folks of the name).

Thanks, I'll go back and fix that in my post.

[ASB Stars]

Well, for the price of euthenasia, she could treat the Lyme disease.

(BTW, its LYME disease, folks, not LYME's, but that's ok, just thought I'd remind folks of the name).

It's also euthAnasia, not for nothin'.... :lol:

[ASB Stars]

Who doesn't? It's insulting to insinuate she can do whatever she wants because "she has a lot going on." She has her own farm and owns horses oh what a terrible life. Starving orphans in Darfur are going to send her their canned goods. :rolleyes:

And why you are posting things she's written on other boards is beyond me, it's just showing everyone she spreads the joy around. Thanks though. ;)

I am not insinuating that she can do anything she wants- she CAN do anything she wants.

I realize that your sympathies for the children of Darfur may exceed those for folks on this board, but that, also, is your perogative, isn't it? :lol:

[blaeberry001]

QUOTE=chaltagor;4541896]I'd love to know the circumstances of using two usernames on CoTH. Is this the third?[/QUOTE]


No OMG why is it when a person on here reaches out to fellow Gothers for advice or help there are a small few that jump in with ranting opinions. Look at my first post I said I was a party that new the circumstances behind the post. :no::mad:

[gettingbettereveryday]

I agree that it does sound like the OP has a lot going on in her life, so if she's not willing to keep the horse or continue treating for Lyme disease, my vote is still on euthanasia. It's relatively inexpensive, and if the horse is truly that uncomfortable, it's a kinder solution.

For the record, we all have a lot going on in our lives, but it's how we choose to handle all that stuff that really matters. I could run down the list of major stressors I endured during the past three years, and your jaws would drop open. To top it all off, I have a big jerk of a mare who has been like an abusive spouse to me during those three years. She has made me miserable, but when I finally decided to get a divorce from her, I didn't try to dump her big issue pile on someone else. I know just exactly what that will earn this mare, and although I don't like her, I don't want her to end up starving or on a truck speeding toward Canada. For now, I'm keeping her, essentially in retirement until spring when I will be sending her out for additional training and praying like heck that the combination of that and a new easier job will make her tolerable. Otherwise, I may consider euthing her.

I don't think it's being unkind to suggest that the OP's desire to get rid of a horse that has been described as anything but "safe and sound" into a companion-only home seems like a desire to shirk responsibility. The OP may be the nicest person in the world, but as my grandmother always said "pretty is as pretty does." We can only know folks on this board by what they post, and although I tend to be pretty easy-going about stuff, I was kind of offended that the OP would try to get rid of a horse with so many obviously dangerous problems and with what was essentially described as an untreated condition. I don't know. I guess I have a different value set.

[chaltagor]

No OMG why is it when a person on here reaches out to fellow Gothers for advice or help there are a small few that jump in with ranting opinions. Look at my first post I said I was a party that new the circumstances behind the post. :no::mad:

If people didn't do dumb things then they wouldn't get other posters poking at them. Like posting under two usernames, alternating between them in the same thread even how dumb is that? Come on.

And anyone who thinks that a horse that was once ridable and now is unridable and thus is too expensive to keep is looking for excuses to dump the horse and doesn't care about it. The cost to keep it is the same, it doesn't magically change because you can't get in the saddle.

Interesting how some people get the same responses where ever they post, yet never realize it may be them and not the whole entire world that is the problem. :uhoh:

[Calamber]

It is pretty clear ASB Stars. that plenty of people care more about what happens to their peer group and never spend a second of their life concerned about Darfur or anywhere else for that matter, the poor in their neighborhood get the same disdain. Not sure how that constitutes a good ole LLAF (laugh like a fool) though. To the OP, if the horse is dangerous to 1 of the alters I am sure it is dangerous to all 3, and to anyone else who does not understand how to navigate all of those Sybil like characters. Glad that folks have called you out before you harm anyone else with your shenanigans. Why pass on a problem, there are more than enough to go around these days. Just stiffen the backbone and do what is right.

[chaltagor]

I am not insinuating that she can do anything she wants- she CAN do anything she wants.

Post alternating between two usernames on CoTH? Are a mod now?

[Riva]

To the OP, if the horse is dangerous to 1 of the alters I am sure it is dangerous to all 3, and to anyone else who does not understand how to navigate all of those Sybil like characters. Glad that folks have called you out before you harm anyone else with your shenanigans. Why pass on a problem, there are more than enough to go around these days. Just stiffen the backbone and do what is right.

Here here!

[ASB Stars]

Post alternating between two usernames on CoTH? Are a mod now?

I was refering to her horse, in the grand scheme of things.

No, I "are not" a mod, now. :lol:

[ASB Stars]

It is pretty clear ASB Stars. that plenty of people care more about what happens to their peer group and never spend a second of their life concerned about Darfur or anywhere else for that matter, the poor in their neighborhood get the same disdain. Not sure how that constitutes a good ole LLAF (laugh like a fool) though. To the OP, if the horse is dangerous to 1 of the alters I am sure it is dangerous to all 3, and to anyone else who does not understand how to navigate all of those Sybil like characters. Glad that folks have called you out before you harm anyone else with your shenanigans. Why pass on a problem, there are more than enough to go around these days. Just stiffen the backbone and do what is right.

I was laughing at you, dear. Certainly not at the less fortunate- but I am sure you knew that, prior to twisting around obvious meaning, to create a bunch of tripe, upon which you apparently thrive.

OK, now, here it is again... :lol:

[Bogie]

I think many people are put off by the cost of treating Lyme. My vet recommends IV antibiotics and that costs $$$.

In our area treating Lyme with doxy is a 6 week course, not 4, and even then it doesn't always work.

Yes, Lyme can cause behavioral symptoms like the OP described.

I am not a fan of passing along horses with health problems. Better to Euthanize. Especially if the horse had an incomplete treatment for Lyme (stopping the antibiotics early).

However, euthanizing a "healthy" or "could be healthy" horse is a difficult place to come to mentally, even if the horse has issues that makes them potentially dangerous.

[Calamber]

ASBetc., "dear", since when did I become dear to you? I had not even posted on this before for you to look down your nose or laugh at me. Maybe you are a little confused and a lot condescending. Is Sybil so important to defend because she/he lives in your hood? Silly nitpicking aside, she/he needs to grow up and act like an adult.

It would have been a different story if Sybil had not made some mention about how she/he and husband had a discussion or made a decision about this and come to the conclusion that they needed to just rehome the horse. If she/he had just been honest, such as "we don't have the money to treat this further, if someone would like to give the horse a chance, please contact us, if not we will euthanize so as not to pass the problem on to someone else." Or something similar. The defensive posturing after the fact does not help matters. I do feel for the horse caught up in this situation because it is expensive, and I do understand not having the funds, no one would crucify them for making a hard decision.

[chaltagor]

ASBetc., "dear", since when did I become dear to you? I had not even posted on this before for you to look down your nose or laugh at me. A little confused and quite a bit condescending?

That's what we get for having perspective I guess. And empathy for those truely in need.

Oh, and sanity.

[ASB Stars]

ASBetc., "dear", since when did I become dear to you? I had not even posted on this before for you to look down your nose or laugh at me. A little confused and quite a bit condescending?

"Dear" is often used when dealing, in a kind way, with those who are a bit muddled. I do realize that you just happened in, to posture, and offer your dictum, rather than being at all invested-- not shocking. And, of course, Humor can be found quite spontaneously, you know. :lol:

Back to our originally scheduled programming- here is hoping that this all works out, for the best interests of this horse.

[judybigredpony]

The OP was asking if someone wanted to give this horse a home.
She wasn't looking for any judgement of character from any of us.

Its her horse..she owns it...and unless inhumane cruelty is at hand its not for us to judge how she chooses to move this horse out of her life.

If you want it adopt it otherwise go pick on another thread where they want an opinion.

OP he's your horse, put him up on Craigslist or call a few shelters.
I heard some where the University of DE was looking for free horses.
I agree as much that a rearing bolting horse is no fun, a liabilty, and you are totally with in your rights to offer him up since you fully disclosed his issues. you have done a course of treatment "Your Vet Prescribed" and should you choose to put him down thats also your right he is after all 14 not 4.
And the rearing and bolting maybe a totally seperate issue not even related to Lyme's.

Good Luck what ever your choice is.........

[equineartworks]

fully disclosed?

Sure...if you carefully followed a few different threads with different issues posted under different screen names.

Compassion runs deeps in my veins, probably more so than most people but please, don't take advantage of that by trying to be less than honest.

And to use the old "she is probably afraid she'll be attacked for trying to rehome her horse, that's why she used an alter" crap. Everyone here knows that this is damn supportive group for a horse owner in need. If she had been honest she would have had no issues and this horse might be in a new home right now.

[judybigredpony]

fully disclosed?

Sure...if you carefully followed a few different threads with different issues posted under different screen names.

Compassion runs deeps in my veins, probably more so than most people but please, don't take advantage of that by trying to be less than honest.

And to use the old "she is probably afraid she'll be attacked for trying to rehome her horse, that's why she used an alter" crap. Everyone here knows that this is damn supportive group for a horse owner in need. If she had been honest she would have had no issues and this horse might be in a new home right now.

So if you want her horse or know of a place that does share it, otherwise get a life.
Its this constant finger pointing holier than tho crap that makes posting on here no fun.
This is a "Give Away" forum not a finger pointing lets bash the OP forum.

[equineartworks]

If being honest, having integrity and doing the right thing by my horses is holier than tho, then call me holy.

So if you want her horse or know of a place that does share it, otherwise get a life.
Its this constant finger pointing holier than tho crap that makes posting on here no fun.
This is a "Give Away" forum not a finger pointing lets bash the OP forum.

[Calamber]

Expecting honesty is not holier than thou Judy, she certainly has the right to rehome the horse, she just needs to be honest about the situation and do the right thing by the horse, not just dispose of it as she wishes because she has the "right". This is where the notion of freedom becomes totally bawdlerized, where is the right of the inexperienced person to get the whole story up front and complete? Suppose a young person gets this horse and is catastrophically injured. Is that right?

[judybigredpony]

Expecting honesty is not holier than thou Judy, she certainly has the right to rehome the horse, she just needs to be honest about the situation and do the right thing by the horse, not just dispose of it as she wishes because she has the "right". This is where the notion of freedom becomes totally bawdlerized, where is the right of the inexperienced person to get the whole story up front and complete? Suppose a young person gets this horse and is catastrophically injured. Is that right?

No and the fact that horse .."Bolts and Rears" is quite enough to fore warn anyone.

Does anybody here have proof positive as in a first hand eye witness account of the horses behavior?? Does anyone here have privy to veterinarian information regarding health??

While I may not agree with trying to re-home a horse who bolts or rears, I thought he was up for adoption as a companion type horse?? And as to the OP's posts on other boards thats OP's perogative. If you do not want the horse do not read the post, if you have some specail insider information that is 100% verifiable then you can PM anyone who shows an interest on here or make a posting telling prospective Adopters to see you for more information.

But it is her horse and whether I agree w/ you or her doesn't matter. She didn't solicite an opinion and we do not have a crystal ball or window into her backyard.
When you get one let us know. ABS apparently lives close by. Maybe she can do an ASPCA inspection and report back.

[Calamber]

Judy, she changed her story and id about 3x. That is what all of the hubbub is about.

[ASB Stars]

When you get one let us know. ABS apparently lives close by. Maybe she can do an ASPCA inspection and report back.

I don't generally drive over that way, but I did read recently that the OP apparently only turns the horses out at night- I guess because they are home then- so I wouldn't see them, in any event. I have also read about the OPs concerns regarding mud- and I believe that they are probably keeping the horses in more, due to the horrendous weather.

ing way too many horses on my farm-- rescues are not being adopted out, currently-- and therefore, I have a serious quagmire, and I live with it, because I'd rather see them out, then locked up. I suppose the OP has not considered a sacrifce paddock, but I do not know that-- we do not have any interaction.

I am not about to drive over there, and trespass. Given the couple of posts from others in the area, I am working with the assumption that the horses are not being ill cared for, and are certainly not in any danger.

IMHO, this is simply an issue of people who do not have extensive knowledge of horses, trying to take on keeping horses at home. I am sure they are getting lots of opinions-- geez, those are FREE!-- and from the posts I have seen here, and elsewhere, it is, once again, MHO, that they are neophytes who are in over their heads- and finding it challenging, financially, as well.

I hope that they are able to find some resolution with all of this- in amongst all of the quality recommendations from Chester County's finest! You would be hard pressed to find a group of people more dedicated to their own interests, and tearing down others, anywhere! :lol:

[sdlbredfan]

What Riva said 'You have had this horse for 6 years. Now that something is wrong with him, you have a responsibility to care for him. Just trying passing him off is not the right thing to do' and what smf11 said 'I'm sorry, I'll bite -- why do you think there's someone out there who wants to retire your horse when YOU don't want to??'.
Come on, you've got your own property, you do not have to pay board on him, either retire him or euth him if you think he cannot be rehabbed. That is the RIGHT thing to do. Thus far in this message, the same person uses both ID pinky107 and filly78, see http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236849

[sdlbredfan]

Riva - yes we do have our own place. Unfortunately keeping a horse on our property costs a lot of $$. Just because you have your own place does not mean you have the $ to retire a horse there. I was hoping maybe someone would be looking for a companion buddy and would have a good retirement home for him...

Note answer in first person, and see other messages posted under that ID. If anyone actually plans to take this horse off her hands, caveat emptor/be very careful. Re-read what Wayside said on page 2, the comment
"I do, however, take issue with a horse that rears, bolts, and may have Lyme disease and/or spine problems being called "safe and sound."

[sdlbredfan]

For all of you out there knocking me, please get off my as$. I'm sick and tired of people on this board jumping all over me. The horse mentioned in the OP is safe and sound. Enough said.

This is the same horse described in first message and in the other ones referenced as has Lyme disease, rears and bolts. See
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236849

and we already know this person has an alter pinky107, see
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233526 saying wants to cut expenses as pinky107
See also reference to this giveaway thread in another in which both filly78 and pinky107 in alteration discussed same horse, http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233607&page=3
and
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234968
Someone else pointed out, that CoTHers are very generous with their help when someone is honest, aboveboard and genuinely requests some assistance. As that same person pointed out (sorry have forgotten now who), CoTHers do not appreciate subterfuge, use of alters, etc in this manner.

[Moderator 1]

As this situation has gotten very dramatic due to the apparent use of multiple IDs, etc., we're going to close the thread.

Anyone interested in rehoming the horse can contact the OP directly.

Thanks,
Mod 1