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Plumcreek
Nov. 11, 2009, 09:29 PM
http://www.aqha.com/showing/shows/worldshow/09winningrun/ama3yogeldings.html

Woodland
Nov. 11, 2009, 09:48 PM
Awesome! Congratulations! Terry is a great guy and one heck of a horseman! :yes:

MistyBlue
Nov. 11, 2009, 09:49 PM
Oh thanks for sharing that! Not only am I a huge football fanatic, I've been a Bradshaw fan since I was a kid. One of the best QBs IMO...Steelers were lucky to have him!
Good for him and his win! And that QH doesn't look freaky either.
Can't wait to watch the preshow and half time this Sunday!

Amwrider
Nov. 11, 2009, 10:38 PM
I love Terry Bradshaw! I didn't while he was playing, because I was a HUGE Cowboys fan. I went to school with the Staubach girls and they were in our parish at church too.

I love watching Terry Bradshaw when he makes appearances with Jay Leno...those are always a riot.

Equibrit
Nov. 11, 2009, 11:05 PM
Terry bradshaw looks fine, but that horse is butt ugly !

mypaintwattie
Nov. 11, 2009, 11:55 PM
That's great! I may have to watch some football this weekend!

copper1
Nov. 12, 2009, 06:51 AM
I remember when Terry was playing the local media would mention he was a QH breeder. Mel Blount who was a top Steeler during those years is also a big QH guy. Congratulations Terry!

MistyBlue
Nov. 12, 2009, 08:14 AM
Yeah, Terry has been into QHs for a coon's age now.
One of the most surprising things I ever learned about Terry Bradshaw (after being a fan for a couple decades) was a semi-recent/maybe 1-2 years ago interview with him on 60 minutes. He mentioned he's been suffering from and being treated for depression for some time now.
I was really surprised considering his on-the-air personality.
And here I had thought that 20 years or so on camera you get to know more sides of a person...even his backside from the movie Failure To Launch when he had his Naked Room. :eek:

Bluey
Nov. 12, 2009, 08:59 AM
I can't hardly watch that because the halter is fitted too tightly and hurts the horse's eye.
Terry is not a very good handler there, so excited and not paying attention to the horse, that acts confused.

I would think he needed to be paying more attention to the horse that just got him the win.
The horse was shying a little bit stiff legged, I wonder how he moves out...

Sorry to be picky, but I really like to see absolute concern for the horse first, no matter how excited we are.
Not saying Terry should not be jumping around, but that once he did and the horse reacted as he did, his first thought should have been for the horse, pay attention to it, no matter how gentle and forgiving he may be.

He may really love the horse, but it doesn't hurt to show it every second you are around it.:yes:

Plumcreek
Nov. 12, 2009, 11:14 AM
Those show halters are supposed to be skin tight, but they need to be custom fit, and that cheek piece should be not be angled so close to the eye, should be parallel with the face. Looks like the colt has outgrown that halter and it was let out under the jowel and jaw, rather than get a bigger one. A halter owner like Terry just takes over the lead shank at the ingate.

katarine
Nov. 12, 2009, 11:47 AM
I'm very happy for him. He's been into QHs forever and a day and I'm sure he was thrilled to bits. Good for him!

Regarding his battle with depression, not to go all Slick on you, but depression isn't about financial and personal success. It's a mental and chemical issue that is not resolved by working for the NFL or winning at the World ;)

MistyBlue
Nov. 12, 2009, 12:03 PM
Oh definitely agree Katarine...it was his actual personality I meant. I've watched him in countless interviews, etc and he's always seemed so outgoing and happy-go-lucky in attitude. Always laughing or grinning. I

katarine
Nov. 12, 2009, 12:09 PM
Oh definitely agree Katarine...it was his actual personality I meant. I've watched him in countless interviews, etc and he's always seemed so outgoing and happy-go-lucky in attitude. Always laughing or grinning. I

Oh I gotcha, just pulling your chain :)

minnie
Nov. 12, 2009, 07:33 PM
You'd be surprised about how many people battling major depression will have a jokey, devil may care attitude so that no one knows how sick they are.

Calhoun
Nov. 12, 2009, 08:02 PM
In the video, it looks like the horse is trying to get out of the way of his hat. No big deal.

SarahandSam
Nov. 12, 2009, 08:06 PM
I like his attitude toward his horse and toward showing.

Still hate AQHA halter, and hate AQHA for being money-grubbing asshats that are trying to destroy the breed for money, but Terry seems like a nice guy, at least. (:

naters
Nov. 13, 2009, 10:18 AM
Grooming question:

Why do they paint the hooves black?

(yes, this may sound like a dumb question, but even the white hooves are painted black):eek:

findeight
Nov. 13, 2009, 10:28 AM
When in Rome...

That's what you do at a breed show. The new stuff is pretty easy on their feet...but I used the old stuff for years and never had any trouble (just to be sure this does not go off the track on the evils of painting the feet). Fat chance.:rolleyes:

TB is a good guy and has been for years...despite where he played football.

Plumcreek
Nov. 13, 2009, 12:03 PM
The amateur halter classes are one reason why AQHA is such a strong association. I showed halter horses back when you could still ride them and dislike the modern "specialist" halter horses as much as anyone, but there are few other places in the horse world where a 60 year old amateur like Terry Bradshaw can actually show his own horse in the big time and get the big win without riding at a high level. (Driving is the only other venue I can think of and , as we all recently saw, that can be dangerous). I have seen people so old or crippled they could barely walk or run out there enjoying horse showing through halter horses.

Terry Bradshaw was right that all the other competitors have nice horses also, and the win can come down to who can get his horse shown the best - paying attention, ears up, standing correctly, a good trot presentation. So winning at halter is a personal achievement as well as being able to afford a really good horse.

Lora
Nov. 13, 2009, 02:13 PM
http://www.aqha.com/showing/shows/worldshow/09winningrun/ama3yogeldings.html

How does a 3 year old horse look like that - he looks like he is 10 years old.

Dispatcher
Nov. 13, 2009, 02:27 PM
Terry bradshaw looks fine, but that horse is butt ugly !

I agree! The horse looks all out of synch--itty bitty head, big shoulder, long barrel, big butt, little feet.

Just not my cup of tea....

moonriverfarm
Nov. 13, 2009, 02:47 PM
Halter horses are freaky looking and make me sad.

ThisTooShallPass
Nov. 13, 2009, 02:56 PM
I feel bad insulting someones horse, as even ugly horses are worthy of love. Though I agree, rather creepy looking. The worst of it is THEY intentionally made the poor thing look that way.

And do something about the halter! You want to pass on a blind horse to your relative?

A sad, sad state of affairs all the way around.

KSAQHA
Nov. 13, 2009, 04:01 PM
Still hate AQHA halter, and hate AQHA for being money-grubbing asshats that are trying to destroy the breed for money,(:
No need to be such a hater. :rolleyes: Halter is just one segment of the AQHA, so why make such a condemning generalization of the entire association?? And no, I don't condone the halter trend of post-hocked, mutton-withered, tiny-footed, over-muscled beefcake, either, nor do I breed for it. To each his own.

Terry Bradshaw is always a riot on Leno. His first year of showing was in '08...he admitted at the time to not really knowing what he was doing and was extremely nervous. He's probably still on a learning curve.

SarahandSam
Nov. 13, 2009, 04:34 PM
No need to be such a hater. :rolleyes: Halter is just one segment of the AQHA, so why make such a condemning generalization of the entire association?? And no, I don't condone the halter trend of post-hocked, mutton-withered, tiny-footed, over-muscled beefcake, either, nor do I breed for it. To each his own.

Because I love quarter horses, or what the QH is supposed to be: a healthy, sturdy, versatile little horse. AQHA does two horrible things to the breed: it has allowed halter horses to become so wildly divergent from actual performance horses, with such disgusting conformational flaws being encouraged, that it's an insult to working QHs everywhere; and it continues to allow and therefore tacitly encourage the breeding of N/H horses, because it wants profits. And the same people out there breeding N/H horses are the ones breeding the wreck-on-hooves halter horses.

And whenever I've written to AQHA to politely, at first, ask about these policies, they ignore me. So I'll speak out against them publicly, because they're putting their money before the welfare of the breed. They aren't horrendous; I appreciate that they're at least taking steps, in theory, to correct problems like pleasure horses developing this four-beat canter crap and the prevalence of tail blocks in breed shows. But their focus should be on preservation and encouragement of the breed standard, and their attitude toward their halter faction overrules their ethics.

KSAQHA
Nov. 13, 2009, 08:59 PM
Kudos to you to take the time to write to AQHA; however, you probably need to accept the fact that specialization is the name of the game - can't see that changing....not just with AQHA, but with ABA, ASB, AMHA, etc.

Just wondering why you think QA's need to be 'little'? Apparently, you haven't seen the QH hunters being produced these days? Do you also hate how they've been infused with loads of TB blood...'cause they look nuthin' like the 'little horse' you refer to. Ditto on the WP horses, for the most part. There is an association in place to preserve the old-time QH bloodlines - it's called the FQHR (Foundation Quarter Horse Registry), and more power to them.

I don't have a dog in this fight - I don't show at AQHA shows; I'm partial to performance bloodlines (i.e., reining, cutting, working cowhorse); and, in my book - a well balanced horse with a brain is going to rook size every time. Just sayin...

mvp
Nov. 14, 2009, 09:37 AM
I worked for a Woodside, CA barn where Joe Montana kept a couple of his first horses before the family got deeper into the horse scene and moved up to the North Bay.

You should have seen the fugly, founder-ringed thing a very big ranch in the Central Valley had sent to him on trial. The dude graciously accepted my trainer's advice that he keep looking. He knew he didn't know.

The moral of the story? 1) Being a bigwig on one part of your life doesn't make you great at all others. Let these pro athletes have fun being ammies at another. 2) Being a bigwig makes it a little tougher. Everyone is watching, everyone sees your clueless but fat wallet coming. You will make your mistakes under a magnifying glass that the rest of us don't have trained upon us.

ThisTooShallPass
Nov. 14, 2009, 01:04 PM
Trouble is Mr. Bradshaw has been in QH the business for years. I do not buy into the learning curve for him at this late date. I do not even do QH, though for many years have seen his ads/picts in the QH glossies laying around hay, feed, trailer & numerous other type stores.

kellidahorsegirl
Nov. 14, 2009, 01:15 PM
Congrats to Terry Bradshaw! I think its so neat and fun to see celebrities doing things with horses and have them excited about it. We may not all agree on the sport of their choosing, or how they go about it, but it still gets our sport some recognition.

And yeah, just cuz he's a famous football guy doesn't mean he's an expert horseman. He's trying and he's having fun!

Let the man enjoy his win.....cuz sometime or another when one of us wins a prize, some negative nelly is talking it down for us too....

KSAQHA
Nov. 15, 2009, 10:13 AM
Trouble is Mr. Bradshaw has been in QH the business for years. I do not buy into the learning curve for him at this late date. Just because he's been in the 'business' for years, doesn't mean he's proficient showing in the ring. As a newbie exhibitor, it's always a little nerve wracking your first few (or several) times out...especially in such a large venue as the World Show.

Silence
Nov. 15, 2009, 11:58 AM
Trouble is Mr. Bradshaw has been in QH the business for years. I do not buy into the learning curve for him at this late date. I do not even do QH, though for many years have seen his ads/picts in the QH glossies laying around hay, feed, trailer & numerous other type stores.

If you read the article you'll see that he's only been showing for two years:


Q: How does it feel to have a world champion?

TERRY: It’s just something that you hope that one of these days – you dream about it happening. I’ve been raising horses for 30 years; been showing only for two. It’s just something you think will never happen to you. I’ve been blessed so much in sports and broadcasting, so why should I be blessed in this, too? And today, all those years of breeding and being around the American Quarter Horse, I get my first world title, which is just so humbling. This is so much fun; these are my friends I compete with, and we all have great horses. It’s just fun.

Alagirl
Nov. 15, 2009, 12:57 PM
I can't hardly watch that because the halter is fitted too tightly and hurts the horse's eye.
Terry is not a very good handler there, so excited and not paying attention to the horse, that acts confused.

I would think he needed to be paying more attention to the horse that just got him the win.
The horse was shying a little bit stiff legged, I wonder how he moves out...

Sorry to be picky, but I really like to see absolute concern for the horse first, no matter how excited we are.
Not saying Terry should not be jumping around, but that once he did and the horse reacted as he did, his first thought should have been for the horse, pay attention to it, no matter how gentle and forgiving he may be.

He may really love the horse, but it doesn't hurt to show it every second you are around it.:yes:

lol, he is probably close to having a heart attack, I know I would be. That would explain some handling lapses.

(as to the horse, let's not go there...;))

Grataan
Nov. 15, 2009, 01:13 PM
lol, he is probably close to having a heart attack, I know I would be. That would explain some handling lapses.

(as to the horse, let's not go there...;))

I fell off. FELL THE FRUITBAT OFF! After my first big win (and that was just Regionals!)

ThisTooShallPass
Nov. 15, 2009, 02:01 PM
Terry Bradshaw has Ted Turner, of all people, as his own personal in house trainer & business partner. Even a monkey could win with Ted Turner as their own personal coach. Ted uprooted everything & moved to Terry's place.

Ted Turner is far from the first big time trainer Terry has had over the years, though obviously the most prominent when it comes to halter side of the business. How do you get bigger than Ted???

This is QH horse country. Hard not to know all the gossip even if you do not care to. Even harder not to sooner or later be in the same room with these all too famous people if you live in the same neighborhood. And believe you me a lot of it is not just merely gossip, as they take out glossy ads & give interviews about it.

I don't give a rats butt about Terry Bradshaw, the man has never done a thing to me. Though I sure am not going to call him a NEWBIE. Let alone a newbie with stage jitters, not when the man has been professionally paid to present himself before the public for how many literal decades now?!


And I am sorry, but he intentionally creates FUGLY horses.

MistyBlue
Nov. 15, 2009, 02:39 PM
Well those of us who are football fans (as evidenced in the thread title) are excited for Terry Bradshaw. If you are a QH halter horse fan then you're probably excited for him due to that connection. I personally don't like Halter Horses (of any breed, have no clue as to the use of having horses to stand and do nothing) so couldn't care less about that angle.
But *four* Superbowl rings? To a football fan (and I wasn't even really a Steelers fan) that's pretty gobsmacking. (passed over 900 yards during Superbowl games!)
He also acts and has a pretty decent singing voice. Not to mention ridiculous amounts of income donated all over the place and allowing his name and image used to fund raise for countless other charities.
All in all....not a bad person for a sports and media celebrity.
So he shows halter horses...not my cup of tea either. No reason to lambast the person though. He's hardly responsible for how funny looking halter horses are.
And as for big money trainers...if I had Bradshaw money you'd bet your bottom dollar I'd have some of the world's top trainers coming to hang out and help me too. :D

catknsn
Nov. 15, 2009, 07:39 PM
Terry Bradshaw, specifically, breeds HYPP-positive horses. Therefore, he's an irresponsible twit like all other HYPP positive horse breeders - just a rich and well known one.

Plumcreek
Nov. 15, 2009, 08:58 PM
Terry Bradshaw, specifically, breeds HYPP-positive horses. Therefore, he's an irresponsible twit like all other HYPP positive horse breeders - just a rich and well known one.


This is true.
I took a look at the website: 4 stallions, 2 N/N, 2 N/H.

Whoanellie
Nov. 16, 2009, 12:13 AM
I met Terry Bradshaw MANY years ago at an Arabian Ranch just outside of El Paso, TX. Bradshaw was there to do a Tony Lama Boot commercial. Spent a little bit of time with him and he was just as goofy then as he is now. Smiling, joking, pumped up.......of course, we did tip a few together and that might have helped. HA!

He was nervous around the horses then. But...he wasn't familiar with any of them as he was shooting a commercial. I didn't stay for the whole thing.

SarahandSam
Nov. 16, 2009, 06:20 AM
Terry Bradshaw, specifically, breeds HYPP-positive horses. Therefore, he's an irresponsible twit like all other HYPP positive horse breeders - just a rich and well known one.

Ick. I just saw the website too... lost my respect for him. Don't know if many owners in his position would really understand what HYPP is, because I'm sure they're not out reading horse care journals or anything like that, but if he chooses to breed HYPP N/H horses he should be aware and should be ashamed.

Woodland
Nov. 16, 2009, 08:23 AM
How does a 3 year old horse look like that - he looks like he is 10 years old.

Conditioning!

We bred and showed halter for decades it is careful feeding and conditioning or muscle sculpting that gets that look. Like a human body builder. I use to date a body builder. He did not look like "that" all the time just when he was "pumped". Meaning he would do specific reps to increase blood flow to the muscles and "POP" he would be ready! To see him now at 50 he still looking damn good, but he is not in massive muscle build shape like he was then. He went from Mr. Illinois to Mr. Marathon runner. Now he is long and lean. The upside of the body building(he has a PHD in PE or something - very smart man) is his bone density! He is participating in a study as a former body builder and the results are quite promising thus far.

Getting back to the halter horses. I ride "B" hunters on a "modern" halter horse. A Congress winner as a matter of fact. He no longer is conditioned to have mass muscles nor is he body sculpted. He looks damn good and wins halter classes at the 4H fair still - but he is an real athlete as well! Under all that muscle was perfection(in his opinion). I know most of the horses we bred went on to be incredible hunters, ropers, gamers and trail horses. The only thing really had for them was WP - they are too big strided to lope "that way" and I would not do it too them! But to think that a halter horse conditioned for the show pen looks like that after they retire or when they are on let down is silliness.

To condition a horse for halter competition is as difficult as it is to train an eventer. I have done both - trust me. It is hours of work daily to get a horse to it's peak.

Just because the man is smart enough and has the dough to hire the best is no reason to hate. I always feel haters are that way because they are wannttabes that can not cut it - no drive, no dedication, no money - It's dollar store success to be a hater.

naters
Nov. 16, 2009, 10:44 AM
Hey guys - I know its dumb, but I was kind of serious about wanting to know why they paint all feet black, even if its a white foot?

When did that develop? As long as I can remember I have seen it, but don't know why they do it that way...

Plumcreek
Nov. 16, 2009, 10:53 AM
Naters, probably just tradition and uniformity for all feet when they are standing on the line. Plus, if they have hoof rings, or such, that can be disguised. In halter, the tiniest thing will make a difference in placing.

Thankfully, the performance horses have gotten away from that and switched to hoof oil.

RougeEmpire
Nov. 16, 2009, 11:28 AM
This is true.
I took a look at the website: 4 stallions, 2 N/N, 2 N/H.

Yes indeed. Terry Bradshaw breeds promotes and shows HYPP positive AQHA horses, for this reason and this reason only I can not, do not and will no support his involvement in the Equine Industry. I am sure he is a very nice man and we all know he had a legendary football career but THIS win is yet another travesty for the Quarter Horse...regardless of WHO is holding the lead shank.

Alagirl
Nov. 16, 2009, 11:35 AM
Well, I suppose like many of the newly rich guys in sports and entertainment he was sold a bridge with beach property in Arizona.

Considering he spends a lot of money on that, I am sure he has been told just the right things from the people around him, and as busy person, I have my doubts he had time to do a lot of the hands on thing himself.

So I hesitate to condem him just yet.

RougeEmpire
Nov. 16, 2009, 11:50 AM
Well, I suppose like many of the newly rich guys in sports and entertainment he was sold a bridge with beach property in Arizona.

Considering he spends a lot of money on that, I am sure he has been told just the right things from the people around him, and as busy person, I have my doubts he had time to do a lot of the hands on thing himself.

So I hesitate to condem him just yet.

Not quite, Terry Bradshaw grew up with working horses. So he says.

Q: So how is it tied to passion – you were and are passionate about football and you’re passionate about your horses?

TERRY: I love animals. I always have. My grandfather plowed with Clydesdales – that’s where it started. I remember how they’d sweat and how they’d smell, and I never could not enjoy the way a horse smelled when he was working. I started riding as a little bitty boy and my uncles were ropers, so I roped. So when I had an opportunity to buy some land, the first thing I did was buy ropin’ horses because I had cattle. Then the Steelers (football team) didn’t want me riding because they were afraid I’d get hurt. So I didn’t know what I could perform in. That’s when I started studying. That’s about the time the Impressive line came out. I started traveling around and got involved in halter. It took a long time, but today it all came together in a tremendous explosion.

Woodland
Nov. 16, 2009, 12:57 PM
Hey guys - I know its dumb, but I was kind of serious about wanting to know why they paint all feet black, even if its a white foot?

When did that develop? As long as I can remember I have seen it, but don't know why they do it that way...

The hoof black is just a finishing touch to a perfect presentation. It is not acceptable in ApHC where we use hoof clear to highlight our breeds striped hooves.

I have had horses since 1967. I remember in the mid 70's going from hoof oil to hoof black. It stays on longer and does not attract dust and dirt like oil does. You just wipe hooves between classes or go rounds. Much cleaner and neater looking. We also use a spray hoof shine or enhancer between classes to keep the horses looking their sharpest. Like applying Pepi to the coat as a light dusting before my riders go back in.

I do the horses coat, riders boots and then hooves on each on my clients between classes. In a tough class the winning is in the details!

naters
Nov. 16, 2009, 03:26 PM
The hoof black is just a finishing touch to a perfect presentation. It is not acceptable in ApHC where we use hoof clear to highlight our breeds striped hooves.

I have had horses since 1967. I remember in the mid 70's going from hoof oil to hoof black. It stays on longer and does not attract dust and dirt like oil does. You just wipe hooves between classes or go rounds. Much cleaner and neater looking. We also use a spray hoof shine or enhancer between classes to keep the horses looking their sharpest. Like applying Pepi to the coat as a light dusting before my riders go back in.

I do the horses coat, riders boots and then hooves on each on my clients between classes. In a tough class the winning is in the details!


Great info from both of you guys! Thanks! I wish the QH folks would do the clear stuff!

I didn't know that the paints did the clear to highlight the different colors in the hooves, never thought about that! Love learning something new!

Thanks!!

Voldemare
Nov. 16, 2009, 03:52 PM
Not fond of the halter horses, but I do appreciate the kind way Mr. Bradshaw spoke of his horse and how the horse had helped him overcome his fear. His comments were sweet and touched on the magic of the horse/human connection.

Woodland
Nov. 16, 2009, 04:25 PM
Not fond of the halter horses, but I do appreciate the kind way Mr. Bradshaw spoke of his horse and how the horse had helped him overcome his fear. His comments were sweet and touched on the magic of the horse/human connection.

I noticed that too! I thought it was very sweet & genuine.

It is very common for people - even those who have had a lifetime with horses - become inexplicably petrified. I was just talking to a woman last night -a LIFETIME rider - now too scared to ride :no: no specific reason, just all of a sudden petrified. I work with a lot of nervous riders and reriders. i see this in men and women and it has no bearing on age or occupation - it just hit WHAM! And they are "crippled" by fear.

If Mr. Bradshaw has battled depression, he has battled the inexplicable and it can me frustrating at best. I applaud him for getting himself into a position where he felt "safe" enough to continue to reach for his dreams! So many people give up. But the right horse - a special horse can carry you all the way! And help soothe the fears and make success a reality.

mypaintwattie
Nov. 16, 2009, 04:28 PM
Great info from both of you guys! Thanks! I wish the QH folks would do the clear stuff!

I didn't know that the paints did the clear to highlight the different colors in the hooves, never thought about that! Love learning something new!

Thanks!!

ApHC are the appaloosas, in the Paint world we are in the current trend of hoof black, but occasionally you still see clear polish. I go back and forth with my horse depending on my mood and the level of the show.

Woodland
Nov. 16, 2009, 11:04 PM
Great info from both of you guys! Thanks! I wish the QH folks would do the clear stuff!

I didn't know that the paints did the clear to highlight the different colors in the hooves, never thought about that! Love learning something new!

Thanks!!

:lol: How did I not catch that. We show ApHC = Appaloosa Horse Club not paints which is APHA :lol:

When you show ApHC you want to highlight your horses Characteristics which are patterned coat, white scalera, mottled skin and striped hooves.

Kaleigh007
Nov. 17, 2009, 01:02 PM
I met Terry once a long time ago and found him to be a very funny ,likeable guy. It was back when he was just getting into the QH showing.

naters
Nov. 18, 2009, 11:01 AM
[quote=mypaintwattie;4501416]ApHC are the appaloosas, in the Paint world we are in the current trend of hoof black, but occasionally you still see clear polish. quote]



Total brain fart moment.... lol

Woodland
Nov. 18, 2009, 01:04 PM
I met Terry once a long time ago and found him to be a very funny ,likeable guy. It was back when he was just getting into the QH showing.

That was back when we were still showing and breeding AQHA halter horses. He spoke at a luncheon we were at. He was a lot of fun. Of course in my book anytime you can combine good horses AND football = NIRVANA! :yes: