Pony Breeders ~ Who breeds buckskin & palomino hunter ponies?

[SilverBalls]

I was wondering who out there breeds buckskin or palomino hunter ponies. There does not seem to be that many out there showing... I love them! :winkgrin:

[VirginiaBred]

Very few.

I know that Gretchen breeds palomino welsh ponies (rideagoldenpony) out her way, but you will see very few in the hunter ring.

I'm not saying there haven't been some (as there have) but it's not as popular as the more "traditional" hunter colors. Some judges frown on them (like they will a pinto).

[hluing]

I saw quite a few at HITS last year and agree they were adorable and eye catching. I bred a Welsh-WB cross this year by Mardi that may end up as a palomino hunter pony;) Time will tell....

[quicksilverponies]

I will be breeding a few in the coming years hopefully. I have a new bucksin Welsh Sec. B stallion prospect that is definitely a hunter and we will do a handful of test breedings in the Spring. He is by Pendock Prospector out of a daughter of Varndell Right Royal. Here are a few of his yearling photos.

[NorthHillFarm]

I just love the palomino ponies too! I bred to Goldhill's Most Wanted last year hoping for a palomino as well but got a chestnut. He's still absolutely adorable though! I think Megan at Bridlewood Welsh has 2 palomino stallions now. I remember when I was looking for stallions though the selection of palomino and buckskin welsh stallions was limited.
I know some judges frown on them but I'd just love a nice hunter type palomino WB too!

[Windswept Stable]

VaBred is correct-- you will see very few of them in the pony hunter ring at the big rated hunter shows.
Do not get me wrong, I do like palominos, but when you do see them in the pony hunter ring--they have to be "that much better". There is a prejudice that often puts them with paints, buckskins and appys. You WILL see more of them in the children's pony hunter, short stirrup etc and plenty at local shows... than you do in the regular division. And off the top of my head, I have seen more palominos in the pony hunter ring than buckskins. I have a boarder with a 15 hand palomino hunter QH that is the most beautiful horse. And she is a packing machine-- you could wear a blindfold and the mare would take you around! Pretty is as pretty does to me.
And I am sure there will be someone here that can list famous ponies from all the above colors. Again-- do not misread me here, I do like the above ponies. Just saying to be prepared to face prejudiced and if you are looking for one, to be sure it is that much better! And there are some judges that will not care if the pony is pink and purple polka dotted-- a nice pony is a nice pony, no matter what it "wears" --- just be sure to pick a nice one if you are aiming for a high dollar investment.
I actually would love to try for a palomino baby by my stallion Empire's Power. If the right small or medium palomino mare comes along, I will go for it.

[TrueColours]

Suzanne Hopf in IN stands a gorgeous palomino Section "A" Welsh, with the white face and 4 high whites. His jump is breathtaking and his movement is incredible as well.

She has a cremello colt that is a yearling this year that is by my stallion Guaranteed Gold, and he should finish a large and once she starts campaigning him, she will then decide if he will enter the breeding shed as well as a Half Welsh

Diane Jackson of Arnaby Farms in Ontario, Canada purchased Mynach Mystical - a buckskin Welsh B from Alberta, who was originally imported from Scotland. He is a light buttermilk buckskin in colour with 4 white legs - he is flashy with excellent conformation and gorgeous movement. I judged his offspring at a Pony Breeders show a few months ago and they are spectacular! Pretty well everything you would look for in a top show pony ... :)

[rideagoldenpony]

As mentioned above -- yes, we do produce some palominos. It helps having a palomino stallion. ;)

We sold a very fancy palomino Mardi Gras colt to Bridlewood Welsh this summer, so there's another one out there that will hopefully be producing some quality foals in the future.

*Mynach Mystical is by Eyarth Beau Geste, who is the sire of Mardi Gras. I also have a full sister to Mystical here, who is a 2 year old, though she is chestnut. I have not seen him in the flesh, though have seen his sire and dam, and of course numerous relatives, and he should be extremely nice.

Diane has my new ponies in quarantine at her place right now. The "next in line for the throne" here is bay, however. ;)

[selah]

Do not get me wrong, I do like palominos, but when you do see them in the pony hunter ring--they have to be "that much better". There is a prejudice that often puts them with paints, buckskins and appys.

I have been wondering if the fact that the popularity of the GRP's seems to be growing by leaps & bounds, and the fact that many of them are beautiful palominos...if that will sway the popularity of this color in other pony breeds?

[VirginiaBred]

Doubtful, any time soon.

German Riding Ponies have been popular only recently and who knows how long this "flavor of the month" will last. Things run in trends you know. ;)

[Dazednconfused]

I have been wondering if the fact that the popularity of the GRP's seems to be growing by leaps & bounds, and the fact that many of them are beautiful palominos...if that will sway the popularity of this color in other pony breeds?

Duns are also common in riding ponies...

[Sugarbrook]

I have had a few born at Sugarbrook. Up Till Dawn, the winning medium is a palomino. His dam is a buckskin. I have waited each year for a repeat performance, but alas, no other palomino has been forthcoming.

I have a lovely buckskin out of that same dam by Melindas Land Ends Adagio. We are more than thrilled as are all of the top pony trainers who visit the farm.

I also raised another palomino, Emerald Hill, a small medium who showed successfully and then became a brood mare for Marilyn Checki.

So, to ask me, I LOVE THEM!!! But, remember, they will "stick out" in the crowd, so they better be a good jumper and mover.

[Sakura]

I bred my bay Arabian mare to a smoky black Welsh stallion specifically hoping for a buckskin... got a really sooty dappled buckskin filly as a result. She should mature to be a large. I am really looking forward to getting her out there, I would think a judge can look past color to see quality :)

Smooch (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/SmoochCanter.jpg)

Smooch2 (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/Plume.jpg)

[arizonard]

We are expected a dilute pony foal bred specifically for the hunter ring in 2010. Very excited! Will most likely be a buckskin, but I have my fingers crossed for smokey black.
http://elitehuntersales.com/Ocean.html

[Serendipitystable]

I bred my bay w/ chrome section A welsh stallion, Davric Popstar to 2 palomino mares (1 reg welsh, 1 grade pony) . Both mares produced gorgeous buckskin colts this past spring. Finnegan, (full welsh) has 3 white stockings and a wide blaze while half brother Nigel is more conservative and sports just a star and a snip. Handsome little guys!!
www.serendipitystable.com

[hluing]

I would hardly call GRP's the flavor of the month. I agree that the dilute color in GRP's is bound to help the popularity. Nice to see this color that does not go back to stockhorse, IMO.

[hluing]

I would hardly call GRP's the "flavor of the month". I agree that the dilute color in GRP's is bound to help the popularity. Nice to see this color that does not go back to stockhorse, IMO.

[SilverBalls]

So, to ask me, I LOVE THEM!!! But, remember, they will "stick out" in the crowd, so they better be a good jumper and mover.

I love them too... and yes they have to be flawless in every way! I was fortunate to have owned a buckskin and 2 palomino horses that I showed on the line. I was very successful with all three, but they had the "ring presence".

Personally I am not afraid of taking a risk as long as what I present in the ring is adorable, correct, a superb mover, and male! :lol:

Grays are still my weakness...but buckskins and palominos are my obsession! :winkgrin:

Thanks everyone... I can't wait until I can sit down and check out all your sites.

[VirginiaBred]

I would hardly call GRP's the "flavor of the month".


I don't mean it in a negative way, but in the pony hunter ring, I've seen trends come and go covering every aspect and they are the "new thing". :yes:

[poltroon]

The buckskin/dun color, usually in a sooty dapple pattern, is common and popular in Connemaras. Here in California we have MGRM Brigadoon (http://www.mgrmanor.com/index.html) who did a lot of winning with child riders in the hunter, jumper and eventing divisions.

(In Connemaras, as in most British breeds, it is genetically buckskin but often called dun.)

[VirginiaBred]

Just remember, a good pony is never a wrong color. :)

[Windswept Stable]

Just remember, a good pony is never a wrong color. :)

That is exactly right!!!

I have been looking for a backyard type pony for my son-- and I dont care if it is the ugliest thing ever and it can be purple, painted, or spotted... I just want it to be kind to my kid. Of course I realize show ponies need to be a bit prettier--but to many all of us-- pretty is and pretty does!

[SilverBalls]

Just remember, a good pony is never a wrong color. :)

AMEN! :D

[GAEventer]

I noticed on Glenhaven Welsh's website that they have quite a number of palomino and buckskin foals on the ground. Their stallion *Downland Condor is a dilute black, and has been producing mostly dilute foals.

[chunky munky]

Suzanne has a beautiful Palamino foal that won at Upperville last year.

[Go Fish]

I know of a trainer that bought several ponies down in Texas that were palomino and I think the farm is known for it. Rosemel's or Rosmel's, maybe? I think they are Welsh, or Welsh crosses. I can't remember exactly. Gorgeous ponies and have been quite successful in the hunters and jumpers up North. I saw them in Thermal year before last and was quite impressed.

[VirginiaBred]

Rosmel is the prefix. :)

They have a large number of ponies there.

[rideagoldenpony]

Rosmel is the prefix. :)

They have a large number of ponies there.

Yes. They do. I visited there a number of years ago. I don't recall seeing more than a couple of palominos out of well over 100 ponies, however.

Bill, you have a PM.

[barnbum81]

I think Palominos are gaining tons of popularity! I am currently begging my husband to let me book for a mardi gras breeding this coming season!!!! quality is quality

[rideagoldenpony]

I think Palominos are gaining tons of popularity! I am currently begging my husband to let me book for a mardi gras breeding this coming season!!!! quality is quality


Fix him a nice dinner and a big glass of wine! LOL ;)

[barnbum81]

It might take a mild sedation but whatever gets the job done LOL!!! (joking of course)
He'll give in eventually! He always does!

[chunky munky]

I think Pals in the pony world are very accepted. They just must be the right type. And I have to go on record that Mardi Gras is a lovely pony, no matter what color he is.

[rideagoldenpony]

And I have to go on record that Mardi Gras is a lovely pony, no matter what color he is.

Thank you very much. I appreciate your kind words.

[Windswept Stable]

I think Pals in the pony world are very accepted. They just must be the right type. And I have to go on record that Mardi Gras is a lovely pony, no matter what color he is.

Indeed he is. I sure would not kick him out of my barn!!! So if he ever needs a place to hang his halter, he has one waiting Gretchen!

[erinwillow]

poltroon,


Thanks for mentioning this ;) Yes, Connemaras are pretty well known for producing many many fine dun colored ponies. Well, we call them "dun" though I think technically "buckskin" is the word. . okay, so humor us, lol!!:lol:

We had an absolutely gorgeous little filly Queen of Granada http://willowrunconnemaras.com/queen.html
born this year out of a dun mare and a non-dilute stallion. Funny thing, I've noticed that we've had quite a few born of dun mares and the foals being some sort of dun, either chocolate or otherwise. . wondering how much influence the dams have.

At any rate, would love for you to consider the Connemara as a possible hunter mount. I know of a farm down south, Dark Horse Connemaras that produce many palomino Connies as well.

Have fun! The buckskin/dun color, usually in a sooty dapple pattern, is common and popular in Connemaras. Here in California we have MGRM Brigadoon (http://www.mgrmanor.com/index.html) who did a lot of winning with child riders in the hunter, jumper and eventing divisions.

(In Connemaras, as in most British breeds, it is genetically buckskin but often called dun.)

[DuffyAgain]

There's an incredibly moving palomino (small) that shows in my neck of the woods. Millbrook's Country Club Dues, I think? Adorable and wins his share.

[nobleponies]

We just started breeding palomino and Buckskin Hunter ponies.
We have a Sect B Buckskin By GoldHills Most Wanted that will be standing to the public in 2010.
We also have 3 youngsters available and a Upcoming stallion prospect.
Dun GRP for 2011

[gasrgoose]

I can think of a few sucessful Palomino pony hunters. In Zone 4, Up til Dawn (who Sandy has mentioned), Champlain Charade (medium) and a Small pony James Blonde. James Blonde was an imported stallion that was gelded at 8 years old and has qualified for Devon. Champlain Charade is currently 1st in the Zone and 3rd in the country. In Zone 3 there is another successful small pony, Millpond Country Club Dues.

So, there are obviously successful Palomino hunters in ponies. It seems to me, based on the rarity of the color, that they are equally successful as other colors.

Like others have said I personally like them, but I'm not a trainer or a judge.

[VintageHillFarm]

Vintage Hill Farm will be using our chocolate dappled Palomno colt to a fee mares in. the spring. He's a Welsh/tb cross. Great hunter movement. Four stockings, blaze, and belly splash.

[Janet]

The late Connemara stallion, *Grange Finn Sparrow, though grey at maturity, clearly carried both the dilute and chestnut genes, as he produced a number of palominos when bred to TB mares.

The chestnut gene is relatively uncommon in Connemaras, though the dilute gene is quite common. So you see a lot more that are dun/buckskin than you see palominos.

[VirginiaBred]

He's a Welsh/tb cross.


Pedigree???

[europa]

My friend has gotten a training horse in that is a full TB that is Buckskin. She is probably one of the most correct TB mares I have seen in a long long time. I think you need her Bill. She is a line horse for sure. I would snatch her up in a NY minute for my breeding program but I am horse poor at the moment and don't need an additional mare.

[Perfect Pony]

I am ridiculously proud of my Buckskin Connemara pony. The hunter trainers seem to love her, so I hope to possibly find a pony jockey for her next year. She is by the previously mentioned MGRM Brigadoon, who has sired a number of Buckskin offspring that are nice hunter type ponies (although most end up with people eventing them). He comes from the Custusha's Castle Rock line, who was a champion in the hunters and jumpers himself.

Sadly I just learned this past weekend that Birgadoon is now infertile :(

Anyway, I'll take opportunity to post a picture of my pony ;) I was never a big fan of buckskin's or Connemaras, but now I am.

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2449877070104500765mmrJPo

[carolprudm]

poltroon,


Thanks for mentioning this ;) Yes, Connemaras are pretty well known for producing many many fine dun colored ponies. Well, we call them "dun" though I think technically "buckskin" is the word. . okay, so humor us, lol!!:lol:

We had an absolutely gorgeous little filly Queen of Granada http://willowrunconnemaras.com/queen.html
born this year out of a dun mare and a non-dilute stallion. Funny thing, I've noticed that we've had quite a few born of dun mares and the foals being some sort of dun, either chocolate or otherwise. . wondering how much influence the dams have.

At any rate, would love for you to consider the Connemara as a possible hunter mount. I know of a farm down south, Dark Horse Connemaras that produce many palomino Connies as well.

Have fun!

I have a beautiful 3 YO "dun" by *Gunsmoke out of Blackpoints Lotty Go Bragh. She should be for sale but she reminds me so much of an old mare I lost I haven't advertised her. I don't know if she'll stay pony though.

Don't blame the Irish for misnaming the color. They called it Sean Bui until the Britts made them stop using Gaelic.

[imajacres]

Sara McCormick in Aiken, Orchard Hill Farm breeds quite a lot of them, she has a pally welsh/tb as well as a welsh stallion, ( amongst some other really nice more regular coloured stallions) and also loves the buckskins etc.

www.orchardhillfarm.com is it, I believe

[Perfect Pony]

Sara McCormick in Aiken, Orchard Hill Farm breeds quite a lot of them, she has a pally welsh/tb as well as a welsh stallion, ( amongst some other really nice more regular coloured stallions) and also loves the buckskins etc.

www.orchardhillfarm.com (http://www.orchardhillfarm.com) is it, I believe

OMG, cutest ponies ever! Makes me almost wish I had a kid...

[Daventry]

We have at least one buckskin, palomino or smoky black each year...but it's not on purpose ;) Two of our pony hunter broodmares are palomino, so it's inevitable that we will end up with a dilute at some point. Our one broodmare has thrown the cream gene every year. She's also a sabino, so we've had some lovely marked foals. Here's our latest colt that has been left intact. He's won successfully at the Welsh shows and Sport Pony shows...but will be a few years yet before he steps into the hunter ring. ;) He was born a buckskin sabino but is turning grey.

In my opinion, you don't see as many dilutes winning in the hunter ring because there just aren't that many out there. (especially in the Welsh breed, I think a lot of the dilutes also end up with the grey gene)

[twinlights]

My daughter's pony is a gorgeous Palomino Welsh "Marzipan", by one of Glenhaven's stallions. She is in training for the hunter ring. Not there yet though. Just love her, she is gorgeous.

[EqTrainer]

My new baby is by Mardi Gras, out of a very nice appendix mare. Buckskin, no white on his legs (my special request) and a star.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz219/gdauverd/mardi%20baby/aa98d7a0.png

[allanglos]

I sorta have "palominos". They are very flaxen and give the impression of palomino but aren't. I tend to like them better because the color contrast is greater.

I currently have the below Welsh mare (jumping) in foal to the stallion shown.

The next photo is a six year old large pony sired by the same stallion.

[Sportpony]

I have had a dun (buckskin) Connemara stallion standing for a number of years now. Although most of the mares he's been bred to have been TBs or warmbloods with an emphasis on eventing, he has produced a couple of nice hunter type foals out of smaller mares. He's on my website, the only Connemara stallion I now have.

I also purchased a 2 year old Section B Welsh stallion this year that will be standing next year, so recently I do not even have photos yet. Palomino, 4 white stockings, blaze, sired by Benlea Rambler out of Benlea Firefly.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/benlea+euraid+rambler

[VirginiaBred]

I also purchased a 2 year old Section B Welsh stallion this year that will be standing next year, so recently I do not even have photos yet. Palomino, 4 white stockings, blaze, sired by Benlea Rambler out of Benlea Firefly.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/benlea+euraid+rambler


Will be most interested to see pictures!

[Sportpony]

Will be most interested to see pictures!

I'm hoping we will get photos by the end of the month. My 'video pasture' is also the 'foaling pasture' so is currently unavailable for photography.

I purchased him to cross to my bigger warmblood and warmblood cross mares for my sportpony breeding program but am told, with his breeding he should be capable of producing hunter prospects. That is not my area of expertise at all, so will be interested in any feedback I get from the hunter pony people.

[Wits End Eventing]

Haflingers are actually not true palominos but are "light chestnuts"; however, for all intensive purposes, our girl and her son look Palomino to me. Pazia is a 13.2 hand Haflinger who jumped up to 3'9" with our working students. She jumped a coffin her first time ever on a X-C course, and she is a lovely mover.
She never evented because we bought her as an 8 year old, fat and unbroken, out of a field for a lesson program we later blitzed, and I am 5'9. Sold all the ponies except her. She was pretty blase about the whole riding thing until she saw her first jump, and it was love at first site....:lol: We had students ride her in a novice level clinic with Kim Severson and a training level clinic with Jim Wofford who both loved her. She was the only horse in Jim's clinic who got every exercise right the first time while making horse striding. She is point and shoot. She has a yearling colt (soon to be gelding) by the super German pony stallion Voyager (http://www.breeding-stallions.com/stallion745.html) who sadly (as far as I can determine) is no longer being imported, and she is due next year to Ridely (http://www.fair-windsfarm.com/Ridley.html)which we are very excited about. Can you tell we are in love with her???:D She is the only pony we breed.

[rideagoldenpony]

I took this video with my phone last night of my palomino Welsh (Section B) filly. She's 5 weeks old. And will NEVER be for sale! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWnnBEZ2LaQ

[Gry2Yng]

Fix him a nice dinner and a big glass of wine! LOL ;)

LOL! If your husband is like mine, he now says "I think you promised that on the LAST horse, and the one before that."

[ponymom64]

Scott Stewart has imported several over the last few years. One in particular, Losander's Camelot has done extremely well, placing high at Devon, Pony Finals and Indoors. He has at least two more, Mustang Sally and another who's name escapes me right now. I believe the three I mention are GRP.

[Joltess]

When my mom started to get into welsh ponies back in the early 90s, you maybe saw one palomino welsh and never any buckskins. As a little girl, I ALWAYS wanted a buckskin because they were my favourite colour. I ended up with many grey A's and B's and finally now that I'm too "old" for ponies (in the sense that there aren't many opportunities for small adults to ride ponies other than in a handful of shows), I have a section B Buckskin Farnley mare. She is very stunning and she will never leave this farm haha.